Seriously, just drop him and play gordon and trent. Solves all their problems. If you can't fit foden in the team just use him as a sub. Instead of shoehorning players in because they're good players. England fans want to play kane, palmer, foden, Bellingham and saka. Look at France, they're willing to bench saliba for the team
I’m french and I can tell you Deschamps is highly criticized in the medias for what he does with Saliba. I think england has the squad to win the euros, but not the coach to win it
How many players outside of sterling and Kane have been decent for England? Attacking players look lost for England despite being unreal for club. Fodens been outstanding for city across the front four positions for the last five years and he’s a stinker for England? Something’s the matter
I'd say defensive players in recent years have looked good for us, Pickford, Walker, Stones, Maguire and Shaw. I agree with your attacking players point, tbh I might even stretch it to say Kane isn't even that good for England in tournaments, but I would say Saka performs well, Bellingham does too from the bits we've seen
It’s not just Foden, some city players outside of the pep system aren’t nearly as effective. They either go to worse coaches or aren’t playing in a similar system that has them set up for success.
Foden is brilliant but Southgate doesn't know how to use him, he doesn't have the courage to play him in the middle. Same as he didn't have the courage to use Grealish as a playmaker. Bellingham and Rice can boss the midfield with Foden ahead. Grealish and Saka would have added much better balance than Gordon or Palmer who are great players but very attacking.
Even if he plays in the middle, the ball isn’t progressed quick enough to him. However, you can’t deny he has been relatively poor in an England shirt.
Leave it to Southgate to pick a squad of mid-front field players , putting simultaniously on the pitch at ONE point players basically have: Man city top ball % Chelsea top ball % Bayern Munich top ball % Arsenal top ball % Man United top ball % (not in the game but soon to start-Real Madrid top ball %) He picked a top team according to stats, but dear god that notebook of his can't fit any tactics suited for those players😓
Typical English fans. Been blamimg managers for 60 years 😂😂 No manager has ever in football history won the euros for England. Time to wake up and smell the coffee As a nation you dont produce the right palyers. Always always big strong athletes Rice has Odegard beside him pulling the strings, bellingham has kroos and modric pulling the strings, foden has rodri and kdb etc
As a Newcastle fan maybe I'm biased but Gordon is always creative and dangerous down that left hand side, the role suits him perfectly. Foden, for whatever reason, just never seems to be at his best in an England shirt.
@TJTOPBOY I agree, Gordon makes things happen (he had to at Everton!), Foden waits for something to happen. Big difference when things are not going well!
Foden truly might be the most overrated english player ever . Hes a player without a position . His best position is a classic 10 behind the striker but europe doesnt playe with classic 10s anymore Without peps possesion ball where the team has 70 percent possession hes pretty average but amazingly technically gifted . He's englands James Rodriguez
“Half turn” Foden been on the national team for 4 years can’t remember a good game he has had and they are talking about him like he is a generational player. So far he looks to be an excellent system player with pep and other top players covering for him at city. In England he is more in the limelight and has to carry the team doesn’t look like he can do it
@A its not crying pal 😂 Sure lance armstrong won 7 in a row and no one cared then and no one cared now cause everyone new it was based on cheating. And everyone knows cities is based on cheating Mam city can win 10 in a row but as lomg as all these charges are there no one takes them seriously in football
I mean we all know the issue and it's name is Southgate. He's lacking any tactical knowledge and has continually shown he doesn't know how to set up players
@Triple_X_X You don't watch football clearly, the setup for England has not worked because Southgate does not understand midfield and forward formations and cannot pick the correct players to play in those formations. He can't even get the 26 right, let alone the 11.
But Kane, Rice can do it under Southgate. Saka can do it, Bellingham can, Trent can, Walker can, even Grealish can and it's only Foden can't. Really really strange world... Like a different person between the City's maestro and England's mediocre.
Foden would fit right into the 'golden generation' crop. Another one who can't seem to bring his club form into internationals. I do hope it clicks for him soon for England, but on what we've seen so far, he hasn't yet proved he should be a starter.
All these world beaters for their club teams become distinctly average when they play for England. It comes down to Southgate not getting the best out of them.
The person who writes these headlines is a total helmet. Everyday somebody CLASHES with somebody its gotten old seeing it everyday and then realising it was just a normal conversation..
I've been thinking this myself. They're misleading, sensationalist headlines designed at ensuring you click on the video. Another of their favourites is 'x (normally Simon Jordan) CALLS OUT y' as if he's some prizefighter at a weigh-in and then a normal discussion ensues. SJ himself would probably refer to it as hyperbole.
Phil Foden is a great club player. Great when he's around DeBruyne, Haaland, & Grealish but at international level he's mediocre (like Lampard & Rooney). He won't reproduce the same form at an international tournament. Bench him. Tournament football is different- you can't just pick an entire team on league form. Before Euro 96' Shearer hadn't scored for England for a long time. Before the 1982 World Cup, Paolo Rossi had only scored 1 goal in two years. Some guys are just good at tournaments- and I think Rashford is one of them.
The thing is is that you sort of have to choose him or Jude, and you really shouldn’t be picking him over Jude. Rice needs someone next to him to help with the defense.
This is why I always say if you put him in arsenal when saka made his debut he would not be hyped like this while saka has performed year after year since he made his debut at arsenal
Have to agree with bent. Cole palmer is an absolute class player who does not know the meaning of pressure he should start ahead of foden. And I'm a city fan.
Palmer should of scored, he held on to the ball far too long his decision making in the last game was t good enough. You can’t miss those chances in international football
@@y2k42y2k42 He created Madrid's goal(Away) and FYI Foden missed a 6 yard box tap in that could've send MC to the semis Bellingham also assisted in the final.. Assisted in the R16..What again do you want from him
So garret is the reason Kane plays well or saka playing well Foden is over hype stop, he is a system player for international he have to show your talent, Kane and saka does that consistently
Foden is quickly becoming the most overrated english youngster, hes only good because he plays in a worldclass team under a worldclass manager, put him in any other team in the league and he would struggle
Amazing how fans and pundits keep sticking to Foden in the hope he'll eventually come good. Need to quote Einstein here: "Trying the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result is plain stupidity!"
England should play a back 3 of walker stones and Guehi. And play Trent and trippier on the wingbacks, Rice and Mainoo as central midfielders, Foden and Bellingham as the two attacking midfielders, and Kane as center forward. Then football will come home 💯
Amazing, but wouldn't play Kane, he's not fast and doesnt fit that model. He is amazing at being clinical but team has to revolve around him, why his teams have never won a trophy in his entire careeer
Much better playing Madrid's formation without natural striker. The 2 pacey wingers inverted to poacher (Gordon and Saka), Gallagher has a bit similar ability like Valverde and train Trent to play like Kroos while Belli is Belli and Rice plays like Tchouameni. Madrid's formation have more assurance in defense as we can see in the game against City because the formation congested the midfield with players and it's hard to break and it needs the opposition defender help go forward and it bring the chances for counter-attack from the 2 pacey wingers.
Foden is a great player but he struggles to impact games or take control when he's not playing at city. People said the same about him at city but this was his best season because he stood up and decided games. If the balance is off and he isn't performing, Southgate will shoehorn him in the team to avoid criticism. This tournament is already looking problematic and it hasn't started.
People still making excuses for Foden. He’s never performed for England and relies on forgeign stars around him at city. Think England team works better without him
International soccer is more about Bully Ball. It's not Foden's game. He is a delicate player on a ball dominant City team. Don't see him being a huge asset for England
I don't know why English media can't understand that Foden is a system player he can't play well for england national team as he play in the Pep system just looking at Bernardo Silva & Ruben Dias in Portugal they're the big example 🤷
Foden was not best player this past season..As an English player, you just need to play 60/70 percent to be Player of the season.Even at city, He is not the most important.
@@Freestyla- the embarrassment is you choosing to reply to my comment and at same time trying to censure me...I do not have to buy the hype about foden because he plays in a good city team dominated by foreign players that creates loads of chances..We will see his performance at the Euros just like we saw against Iceland.
@@Triple_X_X Rice can be an excellent 6, watched him for years at West Ham. However, a midfield of Bellingham foden and rice is clearly unbalanced and too attacking. Will get ran through by the top teams
@@JH-is9fh I'm nowhere a fan of Overrated Bellingham but he's got defensive skills .. Foden and Bellingham are the perfect balance..You don't even know your own players..Joke
Bellingham/Foden is the new Gerrard/Lampard dilemma. Both want to play No10 but just as with the older lads both will get put in the side even if they are playing our of position
Start someone who didn’t perform against Brazil Belgium Iceland 😂 😢 English media hyping Foden again n again when he is not even performing well for England.
Whenever any other country has an embarrassment of riches on the bench we say ' what a player to be able to bring on' or 'well they have their system ' . When we have riches on the bench, we say you can't leave him out even if it breaks our system! chuck him on the left wing.. ' madness
Has everyone forgotten that Bellingham is a no.8? He can play beside rice in a box to box role and Foden can play no.10? Just because he’s done a job for Real Madrid this season playing more advanced it doesn’t mean he can no longer play his natural position?
@@eddieherrera5314 I don’t necessarily disagree mate, just don’t understand why everyone’s saying it has to be either Bellingham or Foden. I personally wouldn’t mind seeing Mainoo and Rice with Bellingham in front but who knows.
Best performance I've see from Foden in England shirt was at the world cup against Senegal. Started the move for the first goal and then 2 assists. Unfortunately the rest of his performances have been a bit meh. But his output this season, in terms of goals, has doubled since then so hopefully we will see some more of what he can do.
Yea but this could be foden bake moment when he went from a left back and turned into the best wonder striker in the world foden has to play Foden Bellingham Rice they have to start they can work it out between them
TAA has to be played at RB. He’s best while inverting from that position. If Southgate starts him in midfield it means we loose out on playing another midfielder. If he does we won’t win the Euros.
He was taken off because Grealish was in great form and Saka also wormed his way into the starting team by the latter stages of the tournament as he was still playing LW then.
I do believe foden will turn up in the tournament especially if the players give him the ball when he asks for it Cuz at city when foden asks for it fhey give to him whether or not the space is tight or not Keep giving him the ball and get him into the game The iceland match he wasnt receiving the ball when he wanted to He can also play a false 9 for england if kane is injured for whatever reason
The Iceland game we had no width he crammed the middle with kane, palmer and Foden. There was no space to play. Not only did it nullify Foden. It nullified England as a team.
Foden likes to give and go quick 1 2 passes and receive the ball in tight spaces like he does for city because they all trust each other on the ball. You could see it in the Iceland game where he wanted to receive the ball quicker and In tighter areas where he could release it. However England don’t play like that, well especially last game. They were looking for conservative passes and holding on the ball too long and felt slow and lethargic, not only that kane was coming in too deep, where foden likes to come in and receive the ball. I think either England needs to speed up there play and be a bit more adventurous with their passing, just like when Trent came on. Or foden needs to play in a different position and adapt. Or doesn’t get into the team. At the minute it’s like they are clashing in styles of play. Maybe as the tournament progresses they might trust each other on the ball.
Not sure why Foden is singled out for international form. No one performs for England like they do for their clubs. All of Saka, Kane, Bellingham have yet to be consistently great. Southgate doesn't know how to coach greatness. What we do know is Foden is much better than the rest in his position.
Foden doesn’t have to play , that’s just the general opinion. Saka is the most important England player and has been for them over the last 3 years. Foden probably hurts this England team if he was to start out of position
The problem is that England need a brave manager, Southgate hasn't got the ability and his lack of knowledge of the technical flexibility cause problem players don't perform because of the manager inability
Foden NEEDS freedom to show up anywhere across the front line. He is literally NEVER given that ability from England. I don't get why England fans don't want Foden to succeed they just want to write him off. If people aren't careful he'll retire early like Scholes, and England fans would deserve it for the abuse. Also Palmer won't give you crazy goals for England because Kane takes the pens.
The would you take X player off debate is why we’ve watched England lose the euro final and get knocked out of the World Cup against France, just watching to see if something happens instead of changing the game.
I'd play foden as a false 9 and bench kane. To win these tournaments you need a winning mentality and unfortunately kane has never experienced it where foden has so that's why I'd drop kane to bench
Foden’s the player you build a team around like Scholes was, and just like Scholes his talent is going to waste for England being played out of position to fit him into a system
People saying foden never performed for england what have the English players done for england If foden doesnt turn up for england put him on the bench but you have to start him You cant leave the best player this season on the bench
England just need to accept it , no proper full backs ... winning team & formation Pickford Walker Stones Gomez Saka Mainoo Rice Eze Foden Bellingham Kane
CP football IQ is no where near PF football IQ .... CP this season most goals came from the Penalty Spot. Why PG sold CP ... ask yourself this question.
You have saka, on the wing and grealish on the other and plenty of movement and pace foden will pull the strings. Should of brought rashford as well. Foden is the only player that will receive the ball under pressure in the final third turn and look forward. Otherwise we are going sideways and backwards in another boring England team. I’ve never seen an English player want the ball so much and he never hides. If you watch him he is always asking for the ball. You have to make it work with the players around him and he will light it up.
Foden is 10x the player palmer will ever be There’s a reason one is Man City’s best player and the other one was sold because he would never reach elite level
@Freestyla- in an average chelsea team, now imagine him playing in a better team like foden is... honestly, foden is the most overrated player 🙄 city players makes him look good
Foden is a pure athlete. That's all he is. He's hasn't the silky skills of Cantona or Gascoigne. Nor is he a maverick like the later. Saying that, he'll probably have a blinder at the Euros.
We could have the best players ever in world football (Messi, Zidane, Maldini, etc) and still never win a trophy…… BECAUSE OUR MANAGER’S OUT OF HIS DEPTH.
Bent the only sensible person in talksport
LOL !!
Bro is one of the worst pundits about
Top pundit and eloquent too
@@Freestyla- you really backed you're point up well..... clap clap
Bent is all good .
How Goldstein keeps his job in here is baffling😂 hes clueless about football
Totally agree with you.
Seriously, just drop him and play gordon and trent. Solves all their problems. If you can't fit foden in the team just use him as a sub. Instead of shoehorning players in because they're good players. England fans want to play kane, palmer, foden, Bellingham and saka. Look at France, they're willing to bench saliba for the team
I’m french and I can tell you Deschamps is highly criticized in the medias for what he does with Saliba. I think england has the squad to win the euros, but not the coach to win it
@@lerbell8792 That's expected but my point is he sticks with his decision instead of listening to the media.
Trent isn’t a CM or a decent RB unless someone is gonna cover him
How many players outside of sterling and Kane have been decent for England? Attacking players look lost for England despite being unreal for club. Fodens been outstanding for city across the front four positions for the last five years and he’s a stinker for England? Something’s the matter
Saka Tbf, Kyle walker, Pickford is more often then not solid in goal; not world class level but does his job for England
I'd say defensive players in recent years have looked good for us, Pickford, Walker, Stones, Maguire and Shaw. I agree with your attacking players point, tbh I might even stretch it to say Kane isn't even that good for England in tournaments, but I would say Saka performs well, Bellingham does too from the bits we've seen
It’s not just Foden, some city players outside of the pep system aren’t nearly as effective. They either go to worse coaches or aren’t playing in a similar system that has them set up for success.
Bent is a decent pundit.
He can't say the word ask
Foden is brilliant but Southgate doesn't know how to use him, he doesn't have the courage to play him in the middle. Same as he didn't have the courage to use Grealish as a playmaker. Bellingham and Rice can boss the midfield with Foden ahead. Grealish and Saka would have added much better balance than Gordon or Palmer who are great players but very attacking.
It's this simple
Even if he plays in the middle, the ball isn’t progressed quick enough to him. However, you can’t deny he has been relatively poor in an England shirt.
Leave it to Southgate to pick a squad of mid-front field players , putting simultaniously on the pitch at ONE point players basically have:
Man city top ball %
Chelsea top ball %
Bayern Munich top ball %
Arsenal top ball %
Man United top ball %
(not in the game but soon to start-Real Madrid top ball %)
He picked a top team according to stats, but dear god that notebook of his can't fit any tactics suited for those players😓
If hes that brilliant then he should be able to show at least some glimpses of it surley
Typical English fans. Been blamimg managers for 60 years 😂😂
No manager has ever in football history won the euros for England.
Time to wake up and smell the coffee
As a nation you dont produce the right palyers. Always always big strong athletes
Rice has Odegard beside him pulling the strings, bellingham has kroos and modric pulling the strings, foden has rodri and kdb etc
Foden is great with the City team around him and goes missing like a lost child in the England team. Shouldn't start.
As a Newcastle fan maybe I'm biased but Gordon is always creative and dangerous down that left hand side, the role suits him perfectly.
Foden, for whatever reason, just never seems to be at his best in an England shirt.
@muz201 Gordon has played himself into the team, with Grealish gone we will need him.
Someone with sense. Gordon over Foden on the left all day
@@TJTOPBOY Lmfao 🤣 this is peak comedy
@TJTOPBOY I agree, Gordon makes things happen (he had to at Everton!), Foden waits for something to happen. Big difference when things are not going well!
Foden truly might be the most overrated english player ever .
Hes a player without a position . His best position is a classic 10 behind the striker but europe doesnt playe with classic 10s anymore
Without peps possesion ball where the team has 70 percent possession hes pretty average but amazingly technically gifted .
He's englands James Rodriguez
Brother take my advice, its time to stop watching football, it just isn't for you.
@@Freestyla-r u on drugs 😂 wat he said is a fact n foden couldn’t perform against Brazil Belgium and Iceland.
“Half turn” Foden been on the national team for 4 years can’t remember a good game he has had and they are talking about him like he is a generational player. So far he looks to be an excellent system player with pep and other top players covering for him at city. In England he is more in the limelight and has to carry the team doesn’t look like he can do it
Been poor for England....but i trust Peps judgement 😂
@@adeyinkaolowu3002 so Foden is just a system player? lmao the internet never ceases to amazes me
Foden needs 115 to perform
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🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 keep crying
@A its not crying pal 😂
Sure lance armstrong won 7 in a row and no one cared then and no one cared now cause everyone new it was based on cheating.
And everyone knows cities is based on cheating
Mam city can win 10 in a row but as lomg as all these charges are there no one takes them seriously in football
😂😂😂😂
@AAL-mu8ms with a 115 advantage, you guys are underperforming
Foden just the English Asensio. Nice turn and a great left footed shot
That's wild bro
That's such a wild take😂😂
He is way way better pal.
I mean we all know the issue and it's name is Southgate. He's lacking any tactical knowledge and has continually shown he doesn't know how to set up players
You said everything right here, he isn't even Sean Dyche level (not being disrespectful to him at all).
English excuses are always Southgate 😂 disregarding the fact that they've got overrated players 😂
@@Triple_X_X here again?
@Triple_X_X You don't watch football clearly, the setup for England has not worked because Southgate does not understand midfield and forward formations and cannot pick the correct players to play in those formations. He can't even get the 26 right, let alone the 11.
But Kane, Rice can do it under Southgate. Saka can do it, Bellingham can, Trent can, Walker can, even Grealish can and it's only Foden can't. Really really strange world...
Like a different person between the City's maestro and England's mediocre.
Foden would fit right into the 'golden generation' crop. Another one who can't seem to bring his club form into internationals. I do hope it clicks for him soon for England, but on what we've seen so far, he hasn't yet proved he should be a starter.
Because the manager is useless
The John Barnes of his generation
It’s all on Southgate
@@samwes1065blaming Southgate is childish
He plays in a completely different system and style of play with City so no surprise he struggles with England to have the same level of impact.
What exactly has Foden done in football to be labeled as one of England greatest player ever?
What exactly am I missing? 😂
6 epl titles at age 23
@@konthe678he was a rotational player for 5 of those titles
Foden never turns up for England, and he get's bullied by decent fullbacks.
Bent Deffo right on this occasion
If you put SAKA on man city last year he would be this golden boy that FOLDEN has fooled you all into believing he is
For England Saka is a better player.
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Bench palmer play rice as a 6, Bellingham as an 8 and foden in behind Kane as a 10. Then, Saka right, Gordon left and Kane up front. Such an easy fix
Edit: dropping Trent is unfortunate but that is our best front 6
Foden have to produce more goals and assists to warrant starts for England. There are other players who does more other things. Better defensively.
You're talking about the premier league player of the year here , you're talking like he's been shocking
@@darrenwarby32for England he has been
Theres a big drop-off from Pep to Southgate ..
All these world beaters for their club teams become distinctly average when they play for England. It comes down to Southgate not getting the best out of them.
The person who writes these headlines is a total helmet.
Everyday somebody CLASHES with somebody its gotten old seeing it everyday and then realising it was just a normal conversation..
I've been thinking this myself. They're misleading, sensationalist headlines designed at ensuring you click on the video. Another of their favourites is 'x (normally Simon Jordan) CALLS OUT y' as if he's some prizefighter at a weigh-in and then a normal discussion ensues.
SJ himself would probably refer to it as hyperbole.
Exactly
It’s all engagement bait.
Your first sentence really made me laugh!
You’re right! 😂
Bent: They got pumped by f-..... Netherlands last night
That would have been a legendary accidental F-bomb
Phil Foden is a great club player. Great when he's around DeBruyne, Haaland, & Grealish but at international level he's mediocre (like Lampard & Rooney). He won't reproduce the same form at an international tournament. Bench him. Tournament football is different- you can't just pick an entire team on league form. Before Euro 96' Shearer hadn't scored for England for a long time. Before the 1982 World Cup, Paolo Rossi had only scored 1 goal in two years. Some guys are just good at tournaments- and I think Rashford is one of them.
Both Kevin and haaland were both injured for good chunks of the season and foden was the main man dragging city to wins
Rodri was the most important player without him the systems broken, without foden city, would find away...
Foden is a system player. Played as a 10 against Iceland and was useless
The thing is is that you sort of have to choose him or Jude, and you really shouldn’t be picking him over Jude. Rice needs someone next to him to help with the defense.
Man City Foden would start every game.
Unfortunately, England Foden is BANG AVERAGE and shouldn't even have made the squad. 💩
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Foden is a system player that only thrives in Pep's robotic system with a billion pound squad around him. Not a player that can carry.
This is why I always say if you put him in arsenal when saka made his debut he would not be hyped like this while saka has performed year after year since he made his debut at arsenal
Said this for years, put him in Burnley and he will flop
@OriginalJ93 forget Burnley, he would struggle at Liverpool, chelsea, tottenham & united
@@sabmo3514weird that he was player of the tournament when England won the u19 World Cup
Finally someone who gets it. Overrated
Funny, that didn’t agree today and yesterday,and the day before, and the day before that…. Almost like it’s deliberate…. 🙄
Have to agree with bent. Cole palmer is an absolute class player who does not know the meaning of pressure he should start ahead of foden. And I'm a city fan.
agreed mate
Palmer should of scored, he held on to the ball far too long his decision making in the last game was t good enough. You can’t miss those chances in international football
Was 1 game. Def needs another chance @@jonmartin9732
It should've been:
Grealish LW
Rashford RW
Kane ST
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Rashford is pants 🩳
Stick to your day job
What did Bellingham do in Champs league semi final or final? Nothing at all he ghosted.
He got there. Foden didn't.
He Ghosted in the Quarterz against City too over both legs!
@@y2k42y2k42
He created Madrid's goal(Away) and FYI Foden missed a 6 yard box tap in that could've send MC to the semis
Bellingham also assisted in the final.. Assisted in the R16..What again do you want from him
@akwaboahdaniel assisted in the final wen the ball was passed to him? 🤣🤣🤣
@@y2k42y2k42
Foden couldn't intercept pass and assist when his team needed him against Iceland 🥴
So garret is the reason Kane plays well or saka playing well Foden is over hype stop, he is a system player for international he have to show your talent, Kane and saka does that consistently
Foden is quickly becoming the most overrated english youngster, hes only good because he plays in a worldclass team under a worldclass manager, put him in any other team in the league and he would struggle
But couldn't you just say that too about other top pedigree players who play at a list of stars club 🤔
This is the dumbest comment on this entire video. Well done
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Goldstein is the definition of a typical man united fan
How do you work that out when he's asking for Foden to start lol. United fans dont want to cheer on a city player.
Amazing how fans and pundits keep sticking to Foden in the hope he'll eventually come good.
Need to quote Einstein here: "Trying the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result is plain stupidity!"
Well said
Goldstein hasn’t got a clue about football foden has been shocking for England and shouldn’t be starting
Shouldnt be starting? After the season he's had? Get a grip
@@ryanyates4124 shouldn’t be when’s he ever performed for England?
England should play a back 3 of walker stones and Guehi. And play Trent and trippier on the wingbacks, Rice and Mainoo as central midfielders, Foden and Bellingham as the two attacking midfielders, and Kane as center forward. Then football will come home 💯
Amazing, but wouldn't play Kane, he's not fast and doesnt fit that model. He is amazing at being clinical but team has to revolve around him, why his teams have never won a trophy in his entire careeer
Yes agree...will have konsa for stones...palmer for trippier and shaw comes in when he is fit......3-2-4-1....konsa is quicker than stones..
Gareth did this against Germany and Italy in the euros, we now have stronger players in certain positions bar Maguire
Much better playing Madrid's formation without natural striker. The 2 pacey wingers inverted to poacher (Gordon and Saka), Gallagher has a bit similar ability like Valverde and train Trent to play like Kroos while Belli is Belli and Rice plays like Tchouameni. Madrid's formation have more assurance in defense as we can see in the game against City because the formation congested the midfield with players and it's hard to break and it needs the opposition defender help go forward and it bring the chances for counter-attack from the 2 pacey wingers.
I think he will do that out of possession against certain teams or times in the game
Foden should be at 10 and the team built around him
Foden is a great player but he struggles to impact games or take control when he's not playing at city. People said the same about him at city but this was his best season because he stood up and decided games. If the balance is off and he isn't performing, Southgate will shoehorn him in the team to avoid criticism. This tournament is already looking problematic and it hasn't started.
People still making excuses for Foden. He’s never performed for England and relies on forgeign stars around him at city. Think England team works better without him
International soccer is more about Bully Ball. It's not Foden's game. He is a delicate player on a ball dominant City team. Don't see him being a huge asset for England
Delicate player 😂
I don't know why English media can't understand that Foden is a system player he can't play well for england national team as he play in the Pep system just looking at Bernardo Silva & Ruben Dias in Portugal they're the big example 🤷
fact is we need Foden to bang in a few in this tournament to stand a chance of winning despite what his record is, it's now or never for England
Harry Maguire has more goals than Foden for England in the past 2 seasons... he may be good for club but he is average for England.
hes got 4 goals in 34 games
Nope. He can hold the bench. Won't change a thing
Foden was not best player this past season..As an English player, you just need to play 60/70 percent to be Player of the season.Even at city, He is not the most important.
Foden won player of the year so this comment should be deleted out of sheer embarrassment
@@Freestyla- the embarrassment is you choosing to reply to my comment and at same time trying to censure me...I do not have to buy the hype about foden because he plays in a good city team dominated by foreign players that creates loads of chances..We will see his performance at the Euros just like we saw against Iceland.
0 ball knowledge
@@Rearwing well said mate 👏
@@Freestyla- no idea at all..zero football knowledge
Why can’t you play foden as a 10 an Bellingham as an 8 and rice as the 6.
Rice as 6? 😂
Field day for potentially Greizmann, Xavi Simons, Bernardo Silva, Pedri, Musiala and Wirtz 😂
@@Triple_X_Xr u crazy? He’s an absolutely amazing 6
Most normal people think this😂😂
@@Triple_X_X Rice can be an excellent 6, watched him for years at West Ham. However, a midfield of Bellingham foden and rice is clearly unbalanced and too attacking. Will get ran through by the top teams
@@gooner1756Only deluded English fans think that WTF what matches do you watch??😂
He's good at box-to-box not as a 6 😂
@@JH-is9fh I'm nowhere a fan of Overrated Bellingham but he's got defensive skills .. Foden and Bellingham are the perfect balance..You don't even know your own players..Joke
England is like the Chinese Space Program... an explosion is eminent.
Imminent, but I get your point.
Bellingham/Foden is the new Gerrard/Lampard dilemma. Both want to play No10 but just as with the older lads both will get put in the side even if they are playing our of position
Gerrard was THE 8 of that time. All round brilliant midfielder. Bellingham and foden want free no 10 roles. Bellingham could be a brilliant no 8
Start someone who didn’t perform against Brazil Belgium Iceland 😂 😢 English media hyping Foden again n again when he is not even performing well for England.
It will happen his whole career even if he never performs for England
No way he should start on the left. We need Gordon to protect Trippier and keep some width
If Jude can’t play deeper then Foden should not start
Whenever any other country has an embarrassment of riches on the bench we say ' what a player to be able to bring on' or 'well they have their system ' . When we have riches on the bench, we say you can't leave him out even if it breaks our system! chuck him on the left wing.. ' madness
This ⬆️
Has everyone forgotten that Bellingham is a no.8? He can play beside rice in a box to box role and Foden can play no.10? Just because he’s done a job for Real Madrid this season playing more advanced it doesn’t mean he can no longer play his natural position?
But Bellingham will do more at that 10 role than Foden
@@eddieherrera5314 I don’t necessarily disagree mate, just don’t understand why everyone’s saying it has to be either Bellingham or Foden. I personally wouldn’t mind seeing Mainoo and Rice with Bellingham in front but who knows.
@@eddieherrera5314no he won't. He can be like Gerrard. An 8 that makes runs forward at the right times. Bellingham is an 8
@@vesper4199 with rice you can’t
He’s not a proper destroyer
Who will just stay back and let TWO of his partners just leave him
He’ll be exposed
@@eddieherrera5314 England don't have a dm. Rice is even sacrificing his game because of the midfield
Just let em play Gareth, these young boys could rip it up this tournament!! Bring it home boys.
Best performance I've see from Foden in England shirt was at the world cup against Senegal. Started the move for the first goal and then 2 assists. Unfortunately the rest of his performances have been a bit meh. But his output this season, in terms of goals, has doubled since then so hopefully we will see some more of what he can do.
Yea but this could be foden bake moment when he went from a left back and turned into the best wonder striker in the world foden has to play
Foden Bellingham Rice they have to start they can work it out between them
TAA has to be played at RB. He’s best while inverting from that position. If Southgate starts him in midfield it means we loose out on playing another midfielder. If he does we won’t win the Euros.
Trent scored after dropping out of midfield from fullback
He was taken off because Grealish was in great form and Saka also wormed his way into the starting team by the latter stages of the tournament as he was still playing LW then.
Bellingham can defend. Put him Alongside Rice and Foden more offensive in the middle.
I do believe foden will turn up in the tournament especially if the players give him the ball when he asks for it
Cuz at city when foden asks for it fhey give to him whether or not the space is tight or not
Keep giving him the ball and get him into the game
The iceland match he wasnt receiving the ball when he wanted to
He can also play a false 9 for england if kane is injured for whatever reason
🤦♂️ Foden isn’t a winger to begin with, Southgate needs to stop playing Kane as a 10/9 … just play Phil as a 10 and let’s see how it goes
The Iceland game we had no width he crammed the middle with kane, palmer and Foden. There was no space to play. Not only did it nullify Foden. It nullified England as a team.
Foden likes to give and go quick 1 2 passes and receive the ball in tight spaces like he does for city because they all trust each other on the ball.
You could see it in the Iceland game where he wanted to receive the ball quicker and In tighter areas where he could release it. However England don’t play like that, well especially last game.
They were looking for conservative passes and holding on the ball too long and felt slow and lethargic, not only that kane was coming in too deep, where foden likes to come in and receive the ball.
I think either England needs to speed up there play and be a bit more adventurous with their passing, just like when Trent came on. Or foden needs to play in a different position and adapt. Or doesn’t get into the team.
At the minute it’s like they are clashing in styles of play. Maybe as the tournament progresses they might trust each other on the ball.
Not sure why Foden is singled out for international form. No one performs for England like they do for their clubs. All of Saka, Kane, Bellingham have yet to be consistently great. Southgate doesn't know how to coach greatness. What we do know is Foden is much better than the rest in his position.
4 2 3 1 for the group games rice and bellingham as the 2 Foden in the 10 Gordon left and Saka right. See how it goes then adapt for the knockout games
Foden doesn’t have to play , that’s just the general opinion. Saka is the most important England player and has been for them over the last 3 years. Foden probably hurts this England team if he was to start out of position
The problem is that England need a brave manager, Southgate hasn't got the ability and his lack of knowledge of the technical flexibility cause problem players don't perform because of the manager inability
Feel sorry for Bent here. He’s talking complete sense, but it’s like talking to a brick wall with Goldstein 🤦♂️
Who's should be next England manager
Foden NEEDS freedom to show up anywhere across the front line. He is literally NEVER given that ability from England. I don't get why England fans don't want Foden to succeed they just want to write him off. If people aren't careful he'll retire early like Scholes, and England fans would deserve it for the abuse. Also Palmer won't give you crazy goals for England because Kane takes the pens.
The would you take X player off debate is why we’ve watched England lose the euro final and get knocked out of the World Cup against France, just watching to see if something happens instead of changing the game.
Bent is just class. Night and day compared to that Gabby fella.
It is a concern that Phil has scored so few for England.
I'd play foden as a false 9 and bench kane.
To win these tournaments you need a winning mentality and unfortunately kane has never experienced it where foden has so that's why I'd drop kane to bench
If Foden isn’t scoring for England then I’m looking at Southgate.
Foden’s the player you build a team around like Scholes was, and just like Scholes his talent is going to waste for England being played out of position to fit him into a system
Lies
Truth
If you're gonna build the team around any player it's trent
England don’t have a player to build the team around. The players haven’t shown enough high level consistency to win anything.
@@jeewa7114 i wouldn’t disagree
he's not overrated, needs to adapt now there's no more excuses
People saying foden never performed for england what have the English players done for england
If foden doesnt turn up for england put him on the bench but you have to start him
You cant leave the best player this season on the bench
Managed poorly
England just need to accept it , no proper full backs ... winning team & formation
Pickford
Walker Stones Gomez
Saka Mainoo Rice Eze
Foden Bellingham
Kane
After that last display , no! He was dreadful
CP football IQ is no where near PF football IQ .... CP this season most goals came from the Penalty Spot. Why PG sold CP ... ask yourself this question.
Play phil as a 10 job done
He played that against Iceland and did nothing but try stupid tricks or stupid passes.
Phoden in the 10 saka\bowen on right palma\ezya left rice bellingham pivot
Is it cos Fods is surrounded by world class players at City with a solid strategy, & doesnt have that with England?
Bellingham is clever he will drift off to open the defence up for kane or who ever
You have saka, on the wing and grealish on the other and plenty of movement and pace foden will pull the strings. Should of brought rashford as well. Foden is the only player that will receive the ball under pressure in the final third turn and look forward. Otherwise we are going sideways and backwards in another boring England team. I’ve never seen an English player want the ball so much and he never hides. If you watch him he is always asking for the ball. You have to make it work with the players around him and he will light it up.
Goldstein has his own logic used against him and always disagrees looool
No way bent think Bellingham is better than Foden!??
Play him in his position!!!!!
folden massively overrated, take him out of man city he's just an average...Palmer is much better
Foden is 10x the player palmer will ever be
There’s a reason one is Man City’s best player and the other one was sold because he would never reach elite level
@@Freestyla- yet his best season so far palmer got more assist and goals than him..4 goals in 33 apps for England..lol purely average
@Freestyla- in an average chelsea team, now imagine him playing in a better team like foden is... honestly, foden is the most overrated player 🙄 city players makes him look good
Foden is a pure athlete. That's all he is. He's hasn't the silky skills of Cantona or Gascoigne. Nor is he a maverick like the later.
Saying that, he'll probably have a blinder at the Euros.
Lacking silky skills?! Are you alright?
😂
@malc568 I'm sorry. I just don't see it. Cantona and Gazza had a box of magic tricks that could beat 3 players. Foden is just a finely tuned athlete.
@@Peter-p7o5v foden is immensly skilled but i get your point gazza seemed to instincively know when to dribble .when to lay it off foden doesnt .
Hasn’t Bellingham been playing LM for real recently
Both Foden and Bellingham will play. Maybe not Foden all the time. He will have to play through the middle as a 10.
Trent at fullback 😂😂😂 omg
You can start two forwards
Foden is average outside a Pep's City team.
He does sound like michael owen 😂
Goldstein has no idea how football works. Has he kicked a ball before in any capacity?
We could have the best players ever in world football (Messi, Zidane, Maldini, etc) and still never win a trophy…… BECAUSE OUR MANAGER’S OUT OF HIS DEPTH.
😂 Goldstein is so weird sometimes it’s unbelievable love how benty easily dismiss talking points