The way the trial was set up was extremely well thought out. Full meals were provided so the patient didn’t need to look for the food or cook it. Additionally, help via email and phone calls were quickly answered. Confronted with a desease like schizophrenia with little hope to recover, this kind of research is priceless. This kind of intervention should be provided in psychiatric wards. (A member of my family participated on this trial and I was 100% involved). This treatment is well worth trying
@@lindaoliver3329 at 6:05 the breakdown is given in a chart: 5-15% of calories carbohydrate, 20-30% protein, 60-70% fat. There are apps such as carb manager that people use to track their macros (fat, protein, net carbs). Fiber does not have calories, but it's included in the carb count on most food labels, so net carbs are total carbs minus fiber. For recipes, you can search online or go to your local library, or order through interlibrary loan. Lauren of the youtube channel Living Well with Schizophrenia has documented 6 months of medical keto and her improvements, so that's a resource. She has a few videos that include what she eats. I hope this helps!
I truly hope this work is synergistic with epilepsy and mental illness. I am adult with epilepsy and I brought up keto to my neurologist who discouraged me. I am hard headed and this journey has been life changing. Thank you. Keep going!
what the fuck? keto was literally invented in order to treat epilepsy. fire your stupid neurologist and just eat eggs, beef, water, greek yoghurt with blueberries and walnuts for a month and see what happens.
@@simonround2439 yes, I looked up my type of epilepsy and studies have shown it to be effective. The main problem is people don’t want to be strict with it. That is not a problem for me when I can avoid seizures.
"People are not strict" is bordering on malpractice. That is just my opinion. I am sick and tired of hearing about ignorant doctors who don't care enough about their patients to read some studies. He dismisses you without a thought. I would fire him.
@@computertooter my neurologist has been so loving for years. When I told him I didn’t listen, he said most people don’t with a laugh. He is happy for me and supporting me tapering down meds. I’m so convinced my brain is addicted to the drugs.
You guys (your channel), Dr Sethi , Nicole Laurent and all involved in this project really helped and continue to help a member of my family. The Keto intervention works. It might not be a 100% of the answer (at least for my loved one at the moment) but the recovery is astonishing. I will forever be immensely thankful for all you do.
I have the utmost respect for Dr. Sethi! I have bipolar disorder that was triggered postpartum, While I still choose to take bipolar medication, my quality of life has improved 100% since I added a well-formulated vegan ketogenic diet. Metabolic Mind has wonderful resources that have helped me immensely! Dyane Harwood, co-host of the new "Our Healing Journey with Metabolic Psychiatry" Podcast with Michael Belanger. Author, "Birth of a New Brain-Healing from Postpartum Bipolar Disorder" endorsed by Kay Redfield Jamison et al.
Great study! it would be interesting to see the people that did not fully recover from keto to try carnivore and see if that would help. Also I have seen people that it took em a year to fully recover.
A year! That's good to know. So did they not notice benefits on keto until it had been a year or did they improve gradually? What were they hoping to recover from?
What promising results! Can't wait for more like this. Thank you for sharing - fantastic work! Glad it works well for both serious mental illnesses. I wonder what ketones levels were plus gki. I'd like to also see keto studies on people that reduce/stop medication as well as those without diagnosed metabolic disorders/dysfunction.
Wonderful news! I am curious about the preparation in the case where a participant discontinued the therapeutic ketosis therapy considering how stopping any therapy too quickly can be problematic. 16 months for me and doing well. Cheers, Michael
I'm looking forward to having Dr. Sethi on our podcast "Our Healing Journey with Metabolic Psychiatry" next winter and you can ask her great questions!
Wow, it been a month I eat 2 raw eggs in morning , then evenings, I eat nice steak . I eliminated all sugar. I sleep much better, and my reading has improved , I am relaxed.. I just can’t. Believe it. Yes, this does work. Frank 😅
Many working in metabolic space emphasize the importance of coach/supports for those attempting dietary changes like this. Curious to know if the participants had coach/support in maintaining ? Did the adherents have more social supports than others ?
Great questions. All participants were given similar amounts of guidance and professional support, but you bring up an excellent point about at-home support. It seems clear that for any lifestyle intervention, the more support someone has the better!
I appreciate the ideal is most likely a tailor made diet. However in order to dip our toes in the ketogenic water can you share with us what foods were provided and what was the typical quantity. Also was there any additional minerals ir vitamins prescribed or taken. Was excercise outdoors a part of this. Standard medicines are not having a great impact. So if food be the essential difference do share the details please. Thanks in advance. I love this channel thanks Dr Scher.
Karen, You can find the "prescription strength" keto diet on Dr Eric Westman's TH-cam channel. As a brief summary, you can eat beef, fish, chicken, pork, lamb, (I. e. Meat), eggs, bacon, butter, and above ground veges. But if you watch Dr Westman you will pick these ideas up. And pls see below...
Here's a general guide outlining food choices that can help maintain ketosis: www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/keto/foods. Although exercise wasn't part of the study, many experts agree that additional metabolic therapies, like exercise, sun exposure, sleep, meditation, etc., can help intensify the benefits.
Well done for giving observational evidence its due! Almost always, this is dismissed as "anecdotal" and given no credence at all. Here common sense and an ability to link the dots was the foundation of what will be hope for many now and in the future.
Any decent and caring doctor should recommend this treatment along medications since medications alone DO NOT WORK (at least in my personal experience of several family members with schizophrenia). Frankly it’s more worrisome to consider the side effects of medications than actual food.
I want to get into it too. But there is some things stopping me. First I can eat fish like salmon and tuna but I dont like other fish. Second I was diagnosed with a low IQ so its hard for me too cook
Those are great questions. While they aren't our area of expertise, we hope others will study them to help us learn more, as they are vitally important.
When the brain gets limited energy, the first supply goes to the seat of the unconscious (back of the brain), and the last part to get ATP is the frontal lobe - our center of advanced thinking, free will, and also clear seeing of reality. When there is limited energy, and the frontal lobe does not get energy, the unconscious personality aspects (inner children or states of mind) come to the forefront without the frontal lobe, the conscious mind, to lead the show. It is like our unconscious is in the driving seat of our life and not the wise, mature, conscious mind. Now, the unconscious mind can allow entities and other spirits if good energy boundaries have not been set up. We are all in one ocean of energy and information (consciousness). Most people have entities and attachments, besides other dysfunctional states of mind., This is one of the reasons for mental illness - the unconscious mind takes over, and there is no conscious, wise adult mind policing it.
New research shows promising developments in how metabolic health impacts our brain and mind. However, it's important to note that small sample sizes and early stages require further exploration. One diet that has gained a lot of attention is the keto diet, but it's not without risks. Studies have shown that it comes with an increased risk of several cancers. In the past , for short 6 to 8 week keto diet studies, there are also two confounding variables to consider. One is the over and misdiagnosis of bipolar disorder, which may actually be unipolar depression with metabolic dysfunction that improves after a change in diet. Assuming this has been ruled out, the second variable is that antipsychotics can remain stored in fat cells for up to three months, which could explain why some patients do not become psychotic or manic despite being drug-free for six to eight weeks. Another issue is the quality of our food, particularly the use of pesticides like glyco phosphates. These neurotoxins can affect our brains and the majority of the time, allergies to certain fruits and grains are actually due to allergies to the same pesticides used to produce them. While the keto diet may show metabolic benefits in short-term studies, it's important to consider the long-term sustainability of this diet. It's also worth exploring whether a Mediterranean or high protein vegan diet, which include complex carbs, could lead to similar results. It's important to note that the keto diet is not a traditional human diet and has only been consumed in extremely cold regions like Alaska. Countries like Russia and Germany have had a high potato intake for thousands of years. Additionally, it's important to consider the quality of the meat being consumed and whether it's processed or contains meat glue, which can increase the risk of clot formation. Check out the video linked for more information on this topic.
Thank you for your comment. We agree, that this is a very encouraging pilot trial that should encourage further research. There are currently 13 trials completed or in progress investigating ketogenic therapy for serious mental illness, with more on the way. So we are primed for an explosion of new knowledge in this field. We are curious to know your sources for demonstrating increased cancer incidence in those following ketgenic therapy. Would you mind sharing those please as are not aware of those published data? Also, regarding your comment about vegan and Mediterranean diets, we like to point out that ketosis is a physiologic state, and not one diet. We have numerous examples of people following vegan keto diets, vegetarian keto diets, Mediterranean keto diets, and many other variations. And it's remarkable how sustainable ketosis can be when your chronic illness goes into remission. That's a powerful accountability partner! Thanks again for your comment and and for following our channel.
Excellent work at Metabolic Mind. Thanks Dr. Sethi and Dr. Sacher. One Thing I'm Having a Really Hard Time With Is ; Resources..What To Eat, How Much To Eat (ratios) What Kind Fats,Proteins,Veges,Fruits. Can Dr. Sacher or someone at Metabolic Mind Put a List Of Foods. Be Very Very Very Helpful. , 🙏🙏 Otherwise one has to go online and go through thousands of people promoting their Keto Stuff. Thanks in advance.
The fact that it can replace medication is jaw-dropping. Should we would worry about stopping toxins because somebody had bacon and eggs instead of a bowl of Cheerios with skim milk?
It is just the proper human diet. Looking back hundreds of years there was connections made between health and this diet. Charles Darwin was one of the people that made the observation.
@mixvideos709 My wife suffered terribly for 35 years with Schizophrenia. 18 months ago she went strict Keto (as per Dr Eric Westman) in order to avoid diabetes (she was very overweight due to the antipsycotics). What we had no idea about at the time, was that within 2 weeks on keto, the voices inside her head would also go away! Since then, her cognitive function as measured by her ability to read books again, engage in discussions with strangers and groups, argue points of view, has all returned to how she was during our engagement 44 years ago! So, YES, for n=1, cognitive function definitely improves... I would say, it improves out of sight. It certainly has for my wife. Thankyou.
@@mixvideos709 She started strict Keto (less than 20g Total carbs per day - as per Dr Eric Westman (TH-cam) ) and progressed to carnivore about 6 months ago. The antipsycotics for 35 years, plus all the other prescription drugs she was on (prednisone, blood pressure, constipation, inflammation etc) destroyed her gut. The Carnivore diet is the best "elimination diet" to help sort out the gut issues whilst also maintaining a state of nutritional ketosis. Dr Ken Berry, Dr Anthony Chaffee and Dr Shawn Baker are balanced carnivore Doctors on TH-cam.
@@mixvideos709 @mixvideos709 She started strict Keto (less than 20g Total carbs per day - as per Dr Eric Westman (TH-cam) ) and progressed to carnivore about 6 months ago. The antipsycotics for 35 years, plus all the other prescription drugs she was on (prednisone, blood pressure, constipation, inflammation etc) destroyed her gut. The Carnivore diet is the best "elimination diet" to help sort out the gut issues whilst also maintaining a state of nutritional ketosis. Dr Ken Berry, Dr Anthony Chaffee and Dr Shawn Baker are balanced Drs on TH-cam that use carnivore.
@@mixvideos709 My reply seems to get deleted, so I'll try again... She started strict Keto (less than 20g Total carbs per day - as per Dr Eric Westman (TH-cam) ) and progressed to carnivore about 6 months ago. The antipsycotics for 35 years, plus all the other prescription drugs she was on (prednisone, blood pressure, constipation, inflammation etc) destroyed her gut. The Carnivore diet is the best "elimination diet" to help sort out the gut issues whilst also maintaining a state of nutritional ketosis. Dr Ken Berry, Dr Anthony Chaffee and Dr Shawn Baker are good Drs to follow on TH-cam for carnivore information.
The way the trial was set up was extremely well thought out. Full meals were provided so the patient didn’t need to look for the food or cook it. Additionally, help via email and phone calls were quickly answered. Confronted with a desease like schizophrenia with little hope to recover, this kind of research is priceless. This kind of intervention should be provided in psychiatric wards. (A member of my family participated on this trial and I was 100% involved). This treatment is well worth trying
Where can I find the diet they used. I've got Brain Energy and a son w schizophrenia who wants to do this but figuring out carb allowance is difficult
@@lindaoliver3329 at 6:05 the breakdown is given in a chart: 5-15% of calories carbohydrate, 20-30% protein, 60-70% fat. There are apps such as carb manager that people use to track their macros (fat, protein, net carbs). Fiber does not have calories, but it's included in the carb count on most food labels, so net carbs are total carbs minus fiber. For recipes, you can search online or go to your local library, or order through interlibrary loan. Lauren of the youtube channel Living Well with Schizophrenia has documented 6 months of medical keto and her improvements, so that's a resource. She has a few videos that include what she eats. I hope this helps!
I truly hope this work is synergistic with epilepsy and mental illness. I am adult with epilepsy and I brought up keto to my neurologist who discouraged me. I am hard headed and this journey has been life changing. Thank you. Keep going!
what the fuck? keto was literally invented in order to treat epilepsy. fire your stupid neurologist and just eat eggs, beef, water, greek yoghurt with blueberries and walnuts for a month and see what happens.
I believe the keto diet was originally formulated to combat epileptic seizures in children so I'm very surprised your neurologist discouraged you.
@@simonround2439 yes, I looked up my type of epilepsy and studies have shown it to be effective. The main problem is people don’t want to be strict with it. That is not a problem for me when I can avoid seizures.
"People are not strict" is bordering on malpractice. That is just my opinion. I am sick and tired of hearing about ignorant doctors who don't care enough about their patients to read some studies. He dismisses you without a thought. I would fire him.
@@computertooter my neurologist has been so loving for years. When I told him I didn’t listen, he said most people don’t with a laugh. He is happy for me and supporting me tapering down meds. I’m so convinced my brain is addicted to the drugs.
You guys (your channel), Dr Sethi , Nicole Laurent and all involved in this project really helped and continue to help a member of my family. The Keto intervention works. It might not be a 100% of the answer (at least for my loved one at the moment) but the recovery is astonishing. I will forever be immensely thankful for all you do.
How about combining Keto with Nutritional Yeast to provide source of Brain Energy through myelination?
@@galbudip8196 i've heard nutritional yeast is good keto food
I wish there would be more studies about metabolic interventions and personality disorders.
I have the utmost respect for Dr. Sethi! I have bipolar disorder that was triggered postpartum, While I still choose to take bipolar medication, my quality of life has improved 100% since I added a well-formulated vegan ketogenic diet. Metabolic Mind has wonderful resources that have helped me immensely!
Dyane Harwood, co-host of the new "Our Healing Journey with Metabolic Psychiatry" Podcast with Michael Belanger.
Author, "Birth of a New Brain-Healing from Postpartum Bipolar Disorder" endorsed by Kay Redfield Jamison et al.
Thanks for publicizing this option
Please have a research on effects of 🥑🥓🥚🧀 keto in kids 👶👧🚼 and students 👩🎓 on learning, memory and IQ
Great study! it would be interesting to see the people that did not fully recover from keto to try carnivore and see if that would help. Also I have seen people that it took em a year to fully recover.
A year! That's good to know. So did they not notice benefits on keto until it had been a year or did they improve gradually? What were they hoping to recover from?
What promising results! Can't wait for more like this. Thank you for sharing - fantastic work! Glad it works well for both serious mental illnesses. I wonder what ketones levels were plus gki. I'd like to also see keto studies on people that reduce/stop medication as well as those without diagnosed metabolic disorders/dysfunction.
Another upbeat update from Metabolic Mind. Thanx! 🙏
Wonderful news! I am curious about the preparation in the case where a participant discontinued the therapeutic ketosis therapy considering how stopping any therapy too quickly can be problematic. 16 months for me and doing well. Cheers, Michael
I'm looking forward to having Dr. Sethi on our podcast "Our Healing Journey with Metabolic Psychiatry" next winter and you can ask her great questions!
❤ Thank you ❤
Awesome!
Wow, it been a month I eat 2 raw eggs in morning , then evenings, I eat nice steak . I eliminated all sugar. I sleep much better, and my reading has improved , I am relaxed.. I just can’t. Believe it. Yes, this does work. Frank 😅
Dr. Sethi...What is the cookbook that you sent home with the study participants? Thanks
Many working in metabolic space emphasize the importance of coach/supports for those attempting dietary changes like this. Curious to know if the participants had coach/support in maintaining ? Did the adherents have more social supports than others ?
Great questions. All participants were given similar amounts of guidance and professional support, but you bring up an excellent point about at-home support. It seems clear that for any lifestyle intervention, the more support someone has the better!
I appreciate the ideal is most likely a tailor made diet.
However in order to dip our toes in the ketogenic water can you share with us what foods were provided and what was the typical quantity.
Also was there any additional minerals ir vitamins prescribed or taken.
Was excercise outdoors a part of this.
Standard medicines are not having a great impact.
So if food be the essential difference do share the details please.
Thanks in advance.
I love this channel thanks Dr Scher.
Karen, You can find the "prescription strength" keto diet on Dr Eric Westman's TH-cam channel. As a brief summary, you can eat beef, fish, chicken, pork, lamb, (I. e. Meat), eggs, bacon, butter, and above ground veges. But if you watch Dr Westman you will pick these ideas up. And pls see below...
Here's a general guide outlining food choices that can help maintain ketosis: www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/keto/foods. Although exercise wasn't part of the study, many experts agree that additional metabolic therapies, like exercise, sun exposure, sleep, meditation, etc., can help intensify the benefits.
Well done for giving observational evidence its due! Almost always, this is dismissed as "anecdotal" and given no credence at all. Here common sense and an ability to link the dots was the foundation of what will be hope for many now and in the future.
I sleep a lot less on keto and carnivore diet and I read that because of lack of carbs does anyone else have this problem ?
That's not an uncommon experience. Here's an article that may help. perfectketo.com/keto-insomnia/
Would be wonderful if a similar study could be done for ADHD
Any decent and caring doctor should recommend this treatment along medications since medications alone DO NOT WORK (at least in my personal experience of several family members with schizophrenia). Frankly it’s more worrisome to consider the side effects of medications than actual food.
I want to get into it too. But there is some things stopping me. First I can eat fish like salmon and tuna but I dont like other fish. Second I was diagnosed with a low IQ so its hard for me too cook
How about TBI and other brain inflammation issues..like long covid encephalopathy?
Those are great questions. While they aren't our area of expertise, we hope others will study them to help us learn more, as they are vitally important.
How long can one wait until stop ketodiet, if it has made sleep much worse and lifted stress up clearly? And eat more carbs
When the brain gets limited energy, the first supply goes to the seat of the unconscious (back of the brain), and the last part to get ATP is the frontal lobe - our center of advanced thinking, free will, and also clear seeing of reality. When there is limited energy, and the frontal lobe does not get energy, the unconscious personality aspects (inner children or states of mind) come to the forefront without the frontal lobe, the conscious mind, to lead the show. It is like our unconscious is in the driving seat of our life and not the wise, mature, conscious mind. Now, the unconscious mind can allow entities and other spirits if good energy boundaries have not been set up. We are all in one ocean of energy and information (consciousness). Most people have entities and attachments, besides other dysfunctional states of mind., This is one of the reasons for mental illness - the unconscious mind takes over, and there is no conscious, wise adult mind policing it.
New research shows promising developments in how metabolic health impacts our brain and mind. However, it's important to note that small sample sizes and early stages require further exploration. One diet that has gained a lot of attention is the keto diet, but it's not without risks. Studies have shown that it comes with an increased risk of several cancers.
In the past , for short 6 to 8 week keto diet studies, there are also two confounding variables to consider. One is the over and misdiagnosis of bipolar disorder, which may actually be unipolar depression with metabolic dysfunction that improves after a change in diet. Assuming this has been ruled out, the second variable is that antipsychotics can remain stored in fat cells for up to three months, which could explain why some patients do not become psychotic or manic despite being drug-free for six to eight weeks.
Another issue is the quality of our food, particularly the use of pesticides like glyco phosphates. These neurotoxins can affect our brains and the majority of the time, allergies to certain fruits and grains are actually due to allergies to the same pesticides used to produce them.
While the keto diet may show metabolic benefits in short-term studies, it's important to consider the long-term sustainability of this diet. It's also worth exploring whether a Mediterranean or high protein vegan diet, which include complex carbs, could lead to similar results.
It's important to note that the keto diet is not a traditional human diet and has only been consumed in extremely cold regions like Alaska. Countries like Russia and Germany have had a high potato intake for thousands of years. Additionally, it's important to consider the quality of the meat being consumed and whether it's processed or contains meat glue, which can increase the risk of clot formation.
Check out the video linked for more information on this topic.
Thank you for your comment. We agree, that this is a very encouraging pilot trial that should encourage further research. There are currently 13 trials completed or in progress investigating ketogenic therapy for serious mental illness, with more on the way. So we are primed for an explosion of new knowledge in this field. We are curious to know your sources for demonstrating increased cancer incidence in those following ketgenic therapy. Would you mind sharing those please as are not aware of those published data? Also, regarding your comment about vegan and Mediterranean diets, we like to point out that ketosis is a physiologic state, and not one diet. We have numerous examples of people following vegan keto diets, vegetarian keto diets, Mediterranean keto diets, and many other variations. And it's remarkable how sustainable ketosis can be when your chronic illness goes into remission. That's a powerful accountability partner! Thanks again for your comment and and for following our channel.
Excellent work at Metabolic Mind. Thanks Dr. Sethi and Dr. Sacher.
One Thing I'm Having a Really Hard Time With Is ;
Resources..What To Eat, How Much To Eat (ratios) What Kind Fats,Proteins,Veges,Fruits.
Can Dr. Sacher or someone at Metabolic Mind Put a List Of Foods.
Be Very Very Very Helpful.
, 🙏🙏
Otherwise one has to go online and go through thousands of people promoting their Keto Stuff.
Thanks in advance.
Check Dr Westman list of ketogenic foods
+1, Dr Eric Westman explains what to eat for Keto on his TH-cam channel. He has a sheet of the foods you should both eat and avoid too.
www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/keto/foods Here's a guide that may help determine which foods to prioritize. We hope that helps!
The fact that it can replace medication is jaw-dropping. Should we would worry about stopping toxins because somebody had bacon and eggs instead of a bowl of Cheerios with skim milk?
It is just the proper human diet. Looking back hundreds of years there was connections made between health and this diet. Charles Darwin was one of the people that made the observation.
What about cognitive function
@mixvideos709 My wife suffered terribly for 35 years with Schizophrenia.
18 months ago she went strict Keto (as per Dr Eric Westman) in order to avoid diabetes (she was very overweight due to the antipsycotics). What we had no idea about at the time, was that within 2 weeks on keto, the voices inside her head would also go away!
Since then, her cognitive function as measured by her ability to read books again, engage in discussions with strangers and groups, argue points of view, has all returned to how she was during our engagement 44 years ago! So, YES, for n=1, cognitive function definitely improves... I would say, it improves out of sight. It certainly has for my wife. Thankyou.
@@bradje12 Was your wife followed keto or carnivore?
@@mixvideos709 She started strict Keto (less than 20g Total carbs per day - as per Dr Eric Westman (TH-cam) ) and progressed to carnivore about 6 months ago. The antipsycotics for 35 years, plus all the other prescription drugs she was on (prednisone, blood pressure, constipation, inflammation etc) destroyed her gut. The Carnivore diet is the best "elimination diet" to help sort out the gut issues whilst also maintaining a state of nutritional ketosis. Dr Ken Berry, Dr Anthony Chaffee and Dr Shawn Baker are balanced carnivore Doctors on TH-cam.
@@mixvideos709 @mixvideos709 She started strict Keto (less than 20g Total carbs per day - as per Dr Eric Westman (TH-cam) ) and progressed to carnivore about 6 months ago. The antipsycotics for 35 years, plus all the other prescription drugs she was on (prednisone, blood pressure, constipation, inflammation etc) destroyed her gut. The Carnivore diet is the best "elimination diet" to help sort out the gut issues whilst also maintaining a state of nutritional ketosis. Dr Ken Berry, Dr Anthony Chaffee and Dr Shawn Baker are balanced Drs on TH-cam that use carnivore.
@@mixvideos709 My reply seems to get deleted, so I'll try again...
She started strict Keto (less than 20g Total carbs per day - as per Dr Eric Westman (TH-cam) ) and progressed to carnivore about 6 months ago. The antipsycotics for 35 years, plus all the other prescription drugs she was on (prednisone, blood pressure, constipation, inflammation etc) destroyed her gut. The Carnivore diet is the best "elimination diet" to help sort out the gut issues whilst also maintaining a state of nutritional ketosis. Dr Ken Berry, Dr Anthony Chaffee and Dr Shawn Baker are good Drs to follow on TH-cam for carnivore information.
My god she's pretty