I own this tiller! For the money, it's a great tool. I have used it in southwestern Virginia soil that has a high clay content. It chews right through it. Just like butter. A lot of the reviews that I read said that it shifts hard and the oil check/refill cap is hard to reach due to the brush guard and the placement of the rear cap. Both of these caps go to the same reservoir. A long spotted funnel works perfectly and makes it simple. As for the hard shifting, if you change your engine speed a little down, it shifts very simply. I love it and look forward to using it for years to come.
What impressed me the most is the transport mode where the tines don't rotate. Especially when loading or unloading from a truck, but also whenever just moving around, being able to move the tiller under power without the tines rotating is a tremendous safety plus which I absolutely want in any tiller I buy. Great explanation, BTW, as many reviews do not give precise, accurate detail as you did so well done!
It was refreshing to see an honest review of this machine. I have seen so many review companies lately that are just people that don't speak very good English with pictures of ground that has already been tilled to the nth degree. I think they are just affiliate marketers taking advantage of the unknowing uninformed public. I start plowing on a farm when I was a kid and except for 2 tours in the Vietnam War, I've been raising a big garden ever since. Once you get your hands on a good rear tine, you'll never go back. My ariens rear time broke and now I'm in the market, but at this time you can't get one of these yardmax. I am going to home depot tomorrow to get the rear tine Yard Mate. From what I can tell it's not too bad and 100 bills cheaper. It only tills rotating backwards, but I can live with that. I have also had pretty good luck with these Chinese Honda Clone engines. I had a front tine I used for various garden and landscaping work for 3 season and it never missed a lick never that I could tell used any oil. That is usually unheard of as the run hours build up. Small engines are set up with looser tolerences than say cars or aircraft. I wish I could get one of these yard Maxes, but I think they weren't prepared for the effect COVID 19 would have on the number of people who want to now grow a garden. Thanks for a great honest picture of the YardMax.
The video is true to form. I bought the same tiller and it does everything shown.Easy to put together and started on first pull.I am very happy with my purchase.
I purchased one of these today and tilled one row just to see how it works, it did great, much easier than my front tine tiller. It has lots of power and very easy to operate.
As a kid my dad used a rear tine tiller and even I could operate it. I'm seriously considering buying this tiller for next year's planting. I dug up a small garden this year with a shovel and rake. Back breaking work
Hello, My wife and I are in the market for rear tine tiller. We've looked at the YardMax and Husqvarna. Lord willing we're hoping to plant our first spring garden in quite a few years. The YardMax seems easy to operate, which is key for us due to spinal injury and multiple surgeries. Its also affordably priced. Thanks for the demo! Florida
The only problem with tillers (30 years of using one) on new ground is that you plow under all the grass and once you have planted/seeded, all that grass just comes right back up and you spend the next 4 months picking it out. You MUST kill the grass (herbicide or cover and wait) BEFORE you till or it's just twice as much work.
Same for remediating moss-ridden lawns you're trying to renew and reseed. Too many people just chop the moss into tiny bits (which also promulgates the spores). This does nothing but give the moss a fresh medium to grow in ;) Nuke it from space with a sulfide spray (some people also use dish-detergent), let it brown up, *then* go to town with a tiller, etc.
I prepare my gardens by literally removing the sod by hand with a spade. Yes, it is a lot of work because my gardens are big, but it's worth it in the end. I compost the sod, and till it back into the garden that fall, or next spring. That will also cut back on soil loss that spading may cause.
well i always till the top off first and rake up all the grass. then i go deeper in succeeding passes. this is with my old front tine tiller but with these rear tine models you can set the depth to remove the grass top first. of course you will have to remove the grass with a rake but then you should be able to go full depth after getting rid of the grass. then use mulch around your plants to control weeks and retain moisture. pretty simple actually.
Great video, wish I had one, I do own a rear tine tiller, great improvement over front tine tillers, Mine only has forward turning tines, neighbor has used a number of dual rotation tine tillers, he gardens heavy, said the transmissions did not hold up as well with dual rotation tillers, However he is the only one I know that has a duel rotation tine tiller,
I'm still using an old YardBird front tine tiller that my dad bought when I was a kid (in the early 1960s). When it dies, I'll get a rear tine tiller. (probably never)
I really enjoy this tiller. I've had it two summers now and plow up a 32x32 plot running over it twice in 1.5 hours. Before this I owned a front tine Earthquake and would never buy another one of those. Broke two cast aluminum transmission housings plowing the same area, and when I did use it (three summers total) it took me probably 2-3 times longer and wore my arms out so bad they hurt for a few days afterwards. The Yardmax doesn't do that. Spent $600 at one of the local farm stores. Was a little leery to spend so much on a tiller but it was worth it. Only thing I would change is the gears shift pretty hard. I just read other comments about lowering engine speed to make it easier to shift, and I will try that.
I got this from rural king. We got a Husqvarna manual and tractor keys. The depth stake was upside down and the limiter for the depth was on the drag bar. The tire also had the valve stem ripped off the tube. Hopefully I like it when it’s in working condition!
Thats an ok tiller . But I like the barreto tiller just a great tiller . A bit pricey but it’s a great tiller . Hope in time you might do more videos. Hope your doing well .
Very nice review on this tiller. I have an older rear tine that works pretty good and does basicly the same thing. This newer model I can see is heavier duty and some improvements.
This was a great video. I have used just about every type of tiller. Front tine small and large, rear tine small and large. I would rate this rear tine as in the lower middle. Still would require a bit of muscle to get the job done and if you have a large garden like I do and grow cover crops, this tiller won't till them in. Not without a lot of sweat and tears. I currently rent the Honda MTA or Honda FRC800 tiller to tile in cover crops and it does a great job. But of course the Yardmax is less than $700 and the Honda is north of $3,000. I am buying neither model and may end up just buying a King Kutter for my tractor.
Had mine a year now,,love it but am having issues with forward speeds when moving it in non tiller mode moving it to garden spot,,,sometimes if i increse throttle it runs very fast butmost times its very slow...what am i missing,,in transport mode is there a way to adjust speed,,something isnt right or it wouldnt run fast one day and very slow next day,,overall its a powerhouse,,does a great job
I'm glad they tightened all of the parts on the tiller Yardmax sent you for review. I bought my YT4565 from a Rural King Home and Farm store. It was fully assembled and prepped to go by their machine repair shop. Just add gas and go. I checked the oil while still at the store and it was full. After getting it home I checked all of the exterior nuts, bolts, knobs and all were tight. I was impressed with the job it was doing while I was turning part of my lawn into a garden. 30 minutes into the job, I lost all drive power. It wouldn't go forwards or backwards and the tines wouldn't engage. After checking the trouble shooting pages in the owner's manual and finding nothing relevant to the problem and calling YM tech support, receiving a recorded message to leave name and phone number for a return call and waiting 30 minutes for the returned call, needing to get the job done due to time available to do it and rain predicted for the next 5 days, with the possibility of the dirt under the grass being mud the next time I had time available to till and plant, I decided to do some experimental inspection hoping I would find the problem and be able to fix it myself without voiding the warranty while waiting for the return call. Upon removing the belt cover I immediately noticed the drive belt wasn't in alignment with the tension pulley. Upon further inspection I found the set screw for the bushing lose allowing the bushing to move due motor vibration and motion of the belt pulling the belt out of alignment with the tension pulley. After loosening the set screw a little more, tapping the bushing back into alignment with a rubber mallet, retightening the set screw and reinstalling the belt cover, I was back to tilling and enjoying the great job the YT4565 does with the greatest of ease. Evidently YM tech support doesn't work on weekends. It's Sunday and I still haven't received that phone call. With my garden now tilled for planting today, I can give the machine a 5-star rating. However, due to the inconvenience of YM's poor quality control and workmanship, I give YM 1-star. If I wouldn't have had the knowledge and tools to fix it, the machine shop where I bought it would have had a 3-5 day waiting period even know the work would have been done at no cost under the warranty. If the weather follows the forecast, It could have set my garden plans back 1-2 weeks. I wrote this review more to inform anyone with minimal mechanical experience what their problem may be should they experience a lose of drive power than criticism to YM. However, I'm very disappointed with YM's carelessness in workmanship and quality control. Is that the reason for the $100 less price difference for the YM4565 from Husqvarna's model exactly like this one...?
@@RealToolReviews Some how I doubt YM said to themselves, gosh if we don't tighten this 1 set screw, we will save $100 in labor & can sell it at a discount! :)
I bought one like that in 3year I didn't use it. This morning I took to the garden. Unfortunately, the idle is not stay on. What's wrong with that. Do you have any idea, what is going on with my tiller?
Only issue I have with this model is the throttle is really cheap plastic. Everything else on it is built like an absolute tank. Went ahead and bought it and love it so far. Great video!
Thanks for the review. After owning it for a few years, do you feel the same way concerning this tiller? I will use this pretty heavily for garden and horse arena use until I can get a tractor.
I broke the recoil starter once ……and if you till fresh ground with lots of tree roots nearby, they clog the tines up quickly & you’ll have to unwrap them. Other than that, it’s a great Tiller & I’ve plowed many garden plots up with it. Large also……Up to 1,500 sq ft or so at a time.
Just received my tiller today. Pretty easy to assemble. Would not start. Disconnected the black wire on the front to the oil sensor. Started right up. Bad sensor. Engine won't start if the sensor says no oil. Haven't tried tilling with it yet. My yard is all mud at the moment.
I especially like the ability to drive the machine without the tines turning. I'll be actively shopping for a new tiller soon and will definitely look at this one. I'm assuming it's chain drive and not drive shaft powered, right? The price would indicate that. Thanks
Quit talking already. I'm convinced and went and bought one today. Price, handle, bumper and side guards were the selling points for me as most tillers are the same. Some guy posted that the huskvarna furrowing attachment will work here. Units look the same.
Pull the speed lever up to max/rabbit……not low/turtle…….. open the choke, pull start….. once it runs for 5-10 seconds, slowly close the choke until it will idle smoothly after warming up.
I have an older model Powermate 196 MD - E . I have an issue with it stalling at a slight incline. I changed the carb and filter. It still happens. any ideas?
Unless you use 100% ethanol-free pure gas, then your fuel filters and fuel lines are probably shot. They look fine from the exterior, but inside it is like clogged arteries….closing up. I would change the fuel line, in-line filter (with a wix in-line barbed filter) and be sure the screen filter in the bottom of your tank doesn’t have rust/gunk on it. If so, you’ll also need to replace the barbed fuel valve on the bottom of the tank and rubber bushing. Also check the exhaust to ensure there isn’t a screen (spark arrester) that gets clogged…. If so, remove and clean or simply remove.
Thank you. I have done the carb and fuel line. I'm waiting for a replacement fuel spigot. The original is not available, so I'm trying an Amazon purchase.@RealToolReviews
yeah!!! reminds me of 1990's Snapper. you think you can remove the 2 outside tine sets and dig a ditch? I have been shopping and this one moves to top of the list for me!!
i like the tiller pros easy to start, neutral on the times, great power and more con will not work well on very uneven ground i had very little control,and worst con the depth stake weak bad design bent on my first use trying to get it replace but i will end up with the same problem. they need to be reinforced the bar or made with a thicker piece of flat stock
It sure was shaking you up there on that 18 foot pass after the first pass, you can tell you were having a bit of difficulty keeping it straight and we're using all your strength to do it. I couldn't control it at 63 bring a women lol but I enjoyed your video and actually be like this machine.
I've had mine for 2 years now and yes when you are using rear tine tilling it is tougher. I am 70 now and if I hadn't been a farmer all my life I don't think I could still handle it. It is a beast!
The recoil pull starter broke once (plastic)…. Reassembled it and it worked with no replacement needed. Biggest “use” issue I’ve found is that tree roots wrap around the tines like hair in a vacuum cleaner head. You have to remove them by hand (unwind) in order to clear. Other than that, no issues. I’ve put in many gardens with it.
I believe if you dig a little deeper in your research you'll find that it's an MTD design. They've used this for years on multiple branded (Craftsman, Husqvarna, Cub Cabet ect.) machines. I've even worked on an older model Lowe's branded one, same design. The older ones sometimes have less features like dual rotating tines.
Looks like a copy of my 11 year old Cub Cadet. Mine still outperforms more expensive units including a big hydraulic drive 13HP unit I rented once. Mine came with a Honda motor and starts with only one pull since day 1.
If you watch that video again carefully you will see that the "reviewer" is mishandling the Husqvarna. Hardly a fair review. He puts the machine in a pit of clay and rather than let it do the work, he forces it. Don't believe me, just go over the video yourself and you decide if the reviewer is doing an honest and fair review. The fact that the Husquvrna and its cousin the Yardmax have a single pole allows you to control the machine with one hand. You can't use it however for what it wasn't design to do.
they have vertical tine tillers I would like to be able to test drive one counter-rotating tines tillers I thought you meant that one half went forward while the other half went backwards you say the time stopped rotating if it hit something hard not sure how that works but if it's like a belt slipping how often you got to replace that junk
Either the belt slips or there's a centrifugal clutch in it. Probably just a belt slippage issue. I have a Troy Bilt Roto Tiller from the 70's and the dang belts stretch so bad its a continuous problem having to replace them. Pretty poor design really, but its belt drive from the engine to the transmission, then gear/shaft drive to the wheels/tines, so much heavier built than these lighter weight machines but still not worth the $1200+ that Troy Bilt wants for them now.
@@davidquinn9676 The transmission in my Troy Bilt is gear driven too, but it has a belt from the engine to the transmission input shaft....I think most are that way...I know a lot of the front tine tillers are chain drive, and some of the rear tine ones are as well, which I think would be better. If yours is gear drive all the better, no chains to wear and stretch and no belts to wear and stretch and break.
Spent all day in the yard with this machine. As expected, it's about 10X faster than doing it with small electric tiller. Surprisingly though, the small tiller is a bit better with rocks. This machine hits a large rock (or a root) and stops. The small one jumps up and down and eventually knocks it lose. With the Yardmax, I have to go around front an dig it out by hand. Smaller rocks it can handle fine. Tips: Adjust the handle at just below belly button level. DON'T put it at crotch level. You will regret it when it hits a root. Unlike the smaller tillers, when it starts to bog down in heavy clay (and it will), lift up a bit on the back. Don't try to muscle it around too much. You'll just tire yourself out. Let the machine do the work. Use forward and reverse and stop the tines for easier turning. This is not a great machine for heavy work, but it's adequate.
Is there a video that shows how to fill up oil in this machine and how to drain it? There seem to be two openings, both with dip sticks and they are located at the MOST INCONVENIENT plane on the machine.
At your request: I own a Troy-Bilt Horse with an 8 HP Kohler engine (Mid 90s). I am very happy with it, esp the weight (I think it's about 300 pounds). However, the tines only spin in one direction, (the same direction as the machine), it will run away from the operator.
I almost bought one of these. I really like the price and travel gear. Plus it's got a Briggs engine, so it'll be reliable. I started looking at this one after my uncle bought his. It did really well at first. He loved it the first season. But he did have to tighten a ton of bolts that were loose when unboxed. My real issue is parts availability. Second season it broke. I know everything does, so that wasn't the issue. But Yardmax was the only source for parts. Im sure it's a clone, but nothing in stock at the repair shop fit and my uncle didn't want to pay to order parts and not be sure they'd work. At least that's what he told me. I haven't found anything that says for sure what (if anything) it's copied from. That's the main reason I won't buy one. I don't know what happens when they roll out a new model and stop supporting this one. I dont know If I'll ever be able to get parts. My front tine is 45 years old and I could build an entire new one with new parts if I wanted. There's little to no info about this one. This video is pretty much all that I've found. It's a quality review and I enjoy the channel. I was excited when I saw this tiller, but it seems like a fleeting tool that once broken might not ever be repaired again. I'm not bashing the brand at all. It looks nice. But until I know for sure where to get parts, I won't buy one. And I wont recommend them. For as much as they get used, my equipment needs to be serviceable for many years. They're expensive and I don't want to have to buy another.
Thank God for a good review video. It is near impossible to find good rear tine tiller reviews. Mostly all robot voices reading factory specs..... doesn't help at all
I agree with the bad reviews given to the Yardmax YT4564. Forget about ordering replacement tines. Last spring (2023) me and my brother in law on seperate emails requested info on tines, and both times Yardmax says they're all out and they would contact us when they restalked. Its now fall of 2024. Still no contact. Were looking into making our own before the spring of 2025. And now we cant get the coil shipped to us because of California prop 65 hazardous material blah blah blah. Not Yardmax fault but sheesh. I dont plan on eating the coil. Sheesh!
The Champion cuts deeper too, for about the same price. No transport or forward mode, but I would imagine it's sturdier. Can't compare to the BSC or Italian tillers because I never used them.
+Real Tool Reviews Just a suggestion, mainly for reviews of impacts, drills, etc. but I'm posting it here because it's the latest review: Even though you're American, not all your viewers are. So even if you consider the imperial system to be the standard, I'm sure that many people would appreciate if you added the metric values at least as captions.
This is the same as my craftsman from the 80's only difference is handle and motor... Others are teh same but with different name and premium $ if has Briggs Stratton engine which in 2024 this model does not have anymore,
Don't be fooled by the video. We received our tiller a couple weeks ago. The adjustable handle will not lock down because the part is defective. Several phone calls to service yield nothing more than "just tighten it" but they refuse to send us the new part to needed to tighten. Now the tines don't rotate. We've tried every trouble shooting fix and still can't get them to rotate. My conclusion is we either received a lemon or it is a p.o.s. I'm banking on the latter and this thing will probably sit in the back of the garage, never to see the light of day again.
Who wants to use a tiller that you have to stoop over to operate when at full depth? if that handle doesn't adjust upward anymore more than what it shows in this video that's a deal killed...it hurts my back just watching that.
I'm impressed not only with the machine - but - your demonstration is one of the best on TH-cam.
Reduced damage is a good selling point. Thanks from MAINE USA
After watching your great review I now want one of these in my garage! I Will be purchasing one soon.
I own this tiller! For the money, it's a great tool. I have used it in southwestern Virginia soil that has a high clay content. It chews right through it. Just like butter. A lot of the reviews that I read said that it shifts hard and the oil check/refill cap is hard to reach due to the brush guard and the placement of the rear cap. Both of these caps go to the same reservoir. A long spotted funnel works perfectly and makes it simple. As for the hard shifting, if you change your engine speed a little down, it shifts very simply. I love it and look forward to using it for years to come.
What impressed me the most is the transport mode where the tines don't rotate. Especially when loading or unloading from a truck, but also whenever just moving around, being able to move the tiller under power without the tines rotating is a tremendous safety plus which I absolutely want in any tiller I buy. Great explanation, BTW, as many reviews do not give precise, accurate detail as you did so well done!
It was refreshing to see an honest review of this machine. I have seen so many review companies lately that are just people that don't speak very good English with pictures of ground that has already been tilled to the nth degree. I think they are just affiliate marketers taking advantage of the unknowing uninformed public. I start plowing on a farm when I was a kid and except for 2 tours in the Vietnam War, I've been raising a big garden ever since. Once you get your hands on a good rear tine, you'll never go back. My ariens rear time broke and now I'm in the market, but at this time you can't get one of these yardmax. I am going to home depot tomorrow to get the rear tine Yard Mate. From what I can tell it's not too bad and 100 bills cheaper. It only tills rotating backwards, but I can live with that. I have also had pretty good luck with these Chinese Honda Clone engines. I had a front tine I used for various garden and landscaping work for 3 season and it never missed a lick never that I could tell used any oil. That is usually unheard of as the run hours build up. Small engines are set up with looser tolerences than say cars or aircraft. I wish I could get one of these yard Maxes, but I think they weren't prepared for the effect COVID 19 would have on the number of people who want to now grow a garden. Thanks for a great honest picture of the YardMax.
Outstanding job of illustrating the use of the Yardmax. This was extremely insightful as I consider rear tine tiller options. Keep up the good work!
The video is true to form. I bought the same tiller and it does everything shown.Easy to put together and started on first pull.I am very happy with my purchase.
I purchased one of these today and tilled one row just to see how it works, it did great, much easier than my front tine tiller. It has lots of power and very easy to operate.
As a kid my dad used a rear tine tiller and even I could operate it. I'm seriously considering buying this tiller for next year's planting. I dug up a small garden this year with a shovel and rake. Back breaking work
Hello, My wife and I are in the market for rear tine tiller. We've looked at the YardMax and Husqvarna. Lord willing we're hoping to plant our first spring garden in quite a few years. The YardMax seems easy to operate, which is key for us due to spinal injury and multiple surgeries. Its also affordably priced. Thanks for the demo! Florida
I ve been trying to buy it, home depot is waiting to get some. Apparently it has a very high demand. Great video... !!!
Yeahhhh same here and when they got back in stock the price was almost 200$ more.....
Home Depot doesn’t carry any accessories
Bought this tiller 3 weeks ago just used it recently and it is worth every penny. Very nicely priced also.
Bought this one last fall right before winter have yet to use it and I can't wait.
The only problem with tillers (30 years of using one) on new ground is that you plow under all the grass and once you have planted/seeded, all that grass just comes right back up and you spend the next 4 months picking it out. You MUST kill the grass (herbicide or cover and wait) BEFORE you till or it's just twice as much work.
+TexasScout Noneofyourbusiness good tip! Thanks!
Same for remediating moss-ridden lawns you're trying to renew and reseed. Too many people just chop the moss into tiny bits (which also promulgates the spores). This does nothing but give the moss a fresh medium to grow in ;)
Nuke it from space with a sulfide spray (some people also use dish-detergent), let it brown up, *then* go to town with a tiller, etc.
I prepare my gardens by literally removing the sod by hand with a spade. Yes, it is a lot of work because my gardens are big, but it's worth it in the end. I compost the sod, and till it back into the garden that fall, or next spring. That will also cut back on soil loss that spading may cause.
I go over the grassy plot twice let the sun dry it out for a few days till dead than till it some more
well i always till the top off first and rake up all the grass. then i go deeper in succeeding passes. this is with my old front tine tiller but with these rear tine models you can set the depth to remove the grass top first. of course you will have to remove the grass with a rake but then you should be able to go full depth after getting rid of the grass.
then use mulch around your plants to control weeks and retain moisture. pretty simple actually.
Great video, wish I had one, I do own a rear tine tiller, great improvement over front tine tillers,
Mine only has forward turning tines, neighbor has used a number of dual rotation tine tillers, he gardens heavy, said the transmissions did not hold up as well with dual rotation tillers,
However he is the only one I know that has a duel rotation tine tiller,
I'm still using an old YardBird front tine tiller that my dad bought when I was a kid (in the early 1960s).
When it dies, I'll get a rear tine tiller. (probably never)
I really enjoy this tiller. I've had it two summers now and plow up a 32x32 plot running over it twice in 1.5 hours. Before this I owned a front tine Earthquake and would never buy another one of those. Broke two cast aluminum transmission housings plowing the same area, and when I did use it (three summers total) it took me probably 2-3 times longer and wore my arms out so bad they hurt for a few days afterwards. The Yardmax doesn't do that. Spent $600 at one of the local farm stores. Was a little leery to spend so much on a tiller but it was worth it. Only thing I would change is the gears shift pretty hard. I just read other comments about lowering engine speed to make it easier to shift, and I will try that.
I got this from rural king. We got a Husqvarna manual and tractor keys. The depth stake was upside down and the limiter for the depth was on the drag bar. The tire also had the valve stem
ripped off the tube. Hopefully I like it when it’s in working condition!
Sounds like rural king screwed up putting it together
Thank you for this thorough review! Informational videos like this are a great use of the internet.
Thats an ok tiller . But I like the barreto tiller just a great tiller . A bit pricey but it’s a great tiller . Hope in time you might do more videos. Hope your doing well .
$7K is a little pricey?👌🙄
Consider the Champion if you can do without forward and transport modes.
Very nice review on this tiller. I have an older rear tine that works pretty good and does basicly the same thing. This newer model I can see is heavier duty and some improvements.
Excellent explanation, I have one the same machine , it does excellent work on the garden 🪴 area
Used mine for the first time today. Bought for an excellent price at Rural King.
love this machine.just buy one
Thanks for putting this up! Love these tiller vids.
Can you bolt a hiller/furrower to the back of this tiller, so you can make up rows for corn and other raised vegetables ?
This was a great video. I have used just about every type of tiller. Front tine small and large, rear tine small and large. I would rate this rear tine as in the lower middle. Still would require a bit of muscle to get the job done and if you have a large garden like I do and grow cover crops, this tiller won't till them in. Not without a lot of sweat and tears. I currently rent the Honda MTA or Honda FRC800 tiller to tile in cover crops and it does a great job. But of course the Yardmax is less than $700 and the Honda is north of $3,000. I am buying neither model and may end up just buying a King Kutter for my tractor.
Just picked mine up yesterday
How do you set the two back bars?
Mine is on the way!
Had mine a year now,,love it but am having issues with forward speeds when moving it in non tiller mode moving it to garden spot,,,sometimes if i increse throttle it runs very fast butmost times its very slow...what am i missing,,in transport mode is there a way to adjust speed,,something isnt right or it wouldnt run fast one day and very slow next day,,overall its a powerhouse,,does a great job
I'm glad they tightened all of the parts on the tiller Yardmax sent you for review. I bought my YT4565 from a Rural King Home and Farm store. It was fully assembled and prepped to go by their machine repair shop. Just add gas and go. I checked the oil while still at the store and it was full. After getting it home I checked all of the exterior nuts, bolts, knobs and all were tight. I was impressed with the job it was doing while I was turning part of my lawn into a garden. 30 minutes into the job, I lost all drive power. It wouldn't go forwards or backwards and the tines wouldn't engage. After checking the trouble shooting pages in the owner's manual and finding nothing relevant to the problem and calling YM tech support, receiving a recorded message to leave name and phone number for a return call and waiting 30 minutes for the returned call, needing to get the job done due to time available to do it and rain predicted for the next 5 days, with the possibility of the dirt under the grass being mud the next time I had time available to till and plant, I decided to do some experimental inspection hoping I would find the problem and be able to fix it myself without voiding the warranty while waiting for the return call. Upon removing the belt cover I immediately noticed the drive belt wasn't in alignment with the tension pulley. Upon further inspection I found the set screw for the bushing lose allowing the bushing to move due motor vibration and motion of the belt pulling the belt out of alignment with the tension pulley. After loosening the set screw a little more, tapping the bushing back into alignment with a rubber mallet, retightening the set screw and reinstalling the belt cover, I was back to tilling and enjoying the great job the YT4565 does with the greatest of ease. Evidently YM tech support doesn't work on weekends. It's Sunday and I still haven't received that phone call. With my garden now tilled for planting today, I can give the machine a 5-star rating. However, due to the inconvenience of YM's poor quality control and workmanship, I give YM 1-star. If I wouldn't have had the knowledge and tools to fix it, the machine shop where I bought it would have had a 3-5 day waiting period even know the work would have been done at no cost under the warranty. If the weather follows the forecast, It could have set my garden plans back 1-2 weeks. I wrote this review more to inform anyone with minimal mechanical experience what their problem may be should they experience a lose of drive power than criticism to YM. However, I'm very disappointed with YM's carelessness in workmanship and quality control. Is that the reason for the $100 less price difference for the YM4565 from Husqvarna's model exactly like this one...?
So it worked great....one set screw loosened up.....and now they are horrible & should be out of business....got it. 😏👎
@@RealToolReviews Some how I doubt YM said to themselves, gosh if we don't tighten this 1 set screw, we will save $100 in labor & can sell it at a discount! :)
I bought one like that in 3year I didn't use it. This morning I took to the garden. Unfortunately, the idle is not stay on. What's wrong with that. Do you have any idea, what is going on with my tiller?
My brother or anyone that's viewing this... Do you think that 2 of these machines could do the job on 200 meter square of land...? thanks!
One could. That’s not very big. Just take your time.
You might want to skip tilling a row one way then till at 90 degrees. Tiller seems to work better like that.
Only issue I have with this model is the throttle is really cheap plastic. Everything else on it is built like an absolute tank. Went ahead and bought it and love it so far. Great video!
If buying all over again would you buy this same tiller? If not, what exactly would you get? Moving up in grade appears to triple the expense.
I’d buy vegetables at a farmers market….
Hits a rock, rock gets left behind, doesn't pick up rock......Savage
hey great post. same as a Husqvarna tiller we have only trouble is some people have broken alot of sear pins
+Martin Schaffmeir wow...I hit a LOT of rocks and bricks over the last month & even a 3' long steel pipe, and didn't break one yet....lucky me 👍
Those shear pins are there for a reason, they are made to break rather than breaking a far more expensive component, like your drive chain.
Thanks for the review. After owning it for a few years, do you feel the same way concerning this tiller? I will use this pretty heavily for garden and horse arena use until I can get a tractor.
I broke the recoil starter once ……and if you till fresh ground with lots of tree roots nearby, they clog the tines up quickly & you’ll have to unwrap them.
Other than that, it’s a great Tiller & I’ve plowed many garden plots up with it. Large also……Up to 1,500 sq ft or so at a time.
Just received my tiller today. Pretty easy to assemble. Would not start. Disconnected the black wire on the front to the oil sensor. Started right up. Bad sensor. Engine won't start if the sensor says no oil. Haven't tried tilling with it yet. My yard is all mud at the moment.
I dont have this but would like to-- a couple nice features, transport and the handle bar adjust similar to a steering wheel.
I especially like the ability to drive the machine without the tines turning. I'll be actively shopping for a new tiller soon and will definitely look at this one. I'm assuming it's chain drive and not drive shaft powered, right? The price would indicate that. Thanks
Yes, combination belt/chain driven. No drive shaft in these cheap models.
Quit talking already. I'm convinced and went and bought one today. Price, handle, bumper and side guards were the selling points for me as most tillers are the same. Some guy posted that the huskvarna furrowing attachment will work here. Units look the same.
Brig's motors run 4 ever.
I need one bad. Can it be purchased directly from yardMmax?
Could you do review over Rotorazor hand saw.Thinking about buying it,but does it suck?
How do I put oil in? I just bought this new tiller
Mine wont shift gears. I have the clutch held
I’ve seen two depth sticks one in the front and in the back. Can you tell me where does the oil go. In the front or the back?
Either oil plug works. They both drain into the crankcase of the engine.
I have learned that your definition of very large is different than mine. A 20 x 25 plot to me is very small
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Do you have any tips when it won't start? I just assembled it, put oil in it, and fuel and it won't start.
Pull the speed lever up to max/rabbit……not low/turtle…….. open the choke, pull start….. once it runs for 5-10 seconds, slowly close the choke until it will idle smoothly after warming up.
I've had rear tine tiller most of my life.
Are the counter rotation a lot better ??
Yep. It pulls in forward and reverse at the same time so it digs deep without much effort from you. You can use this one handed and stand to the side.
Is this tiller belt driven?
I have an older model Powermate 196 MD - E . I have an issue with it stalling at a slight incline. I changed the carb and filter. It still happens. any ideas?
Unless you use 100% ethanol-free pure gas, then your fuel filters and fuel lines are probably shot. They look fine from the exterior, but inside it is like clogged arteries….closing up. I would change the fuel line, in-line filter (with a wix in-line barbed filter) and be sure the screen filter in the bottom of your tank doesn’t have rust/gunk on it. If so, you’ll also need to replace the barbed fuel valve on the bottom of the tank and rubber bushing.
Also check the exhaust to ensure there isn’t a screen (spark arrester) that gets clogged…. If so, remove and clean or simply remove.
Thank you. I have done the carb and fuel line. I'm waiting for a replacement fuel spigot. The original is not available, so I'm trying an Amazon purchase.@RealToolReviews
very nice machine
I use a barreto 918 not cheap but it is the best out there. No belts,chains all hydraulic driven.
Thats not a bad tiller for the price.
Those are nice, expensive but nice LOL.
yeah!!! reminds me of 1990's Snapper. you think you can remove the 2 outside tine sets and dig a ditch? I have been shopping and this one moves to top of the list for me!!
Those tines look almost like discs. Farmers have tillers and they have discs, and they each have a place.
i like the tiller pros easy to start, neutral on the times, great power and more con will not work well on very uneven ground i had very little control,and worst con the depth stake weak bad design bent on my first use trying to get it replace but i will end up with the same problem. they need to be reinforced the bar or made with a thicker piece of flat stock
It sure was shaking you up there on that 18 foot pass after the first pass, you can tell you were having a bit of difficulty keeping it straight and we're using all your strength to do it. I couldn't control it at 63 bring a women lol but I enjoyed your video and actually be like this machine.
I've had mine for 2 years now and yes when you are using rear tine tilling it is tougher. I am 70 now and if I hadn't been a farmer all my life I don't think I could still handle it. It is a beast!
Wish u did this video with texas blackland dirt.
Could you review some lightweight aluminum floor Jack's?
can't find it in stock anywhere
Hmm 5 years later any updated concerns? Im always more curious on long term reviews
The recoil pull starter broke once (plastic)…. Reassembled it and it worked with no replacement needed.
Biggest “use” issue I’ve found is that tree roots wrap around the tines like hair in a vacuum cleaner head. You have to remove them by hand (unwind) in order to clear.
Other than that, no issues. I’ve put in many gardens with it.
@Real Tool Reviews cool that's good to know thank you!
I have to plugs on mine in the front and back which one does the oil go in because the instructions aren't very helpful I just bought mine today
how wide is it and how much ?
Husqvarna must own yardmax it's the exact same tiller as the Husqvarna DRT 900H
I believe Yardmax just uses Husqvarna for manufacturing. There is no ownership.
Martin Schaffmeir is this commercial grade
I believe if you dig a little deeper in your research you'll find that it's an MTD design. They've used this for years on multiple branded (Craftsman, Husqvarna, Cub Cabet ect.) machines. I've even worked on an older model Lowe's branded one, same design. The older ones sometimes have less features like dual rotating tines.
They make the transmission for most rear tillers !
MTD makes all of them. Same factory. Different paint and engines.
I am looking for a tiller this looks just like the dr tiller. Are these made by DR ?
They definitely look identical. Except this one is about $200 cheaper...
Looks like a copy of my 11 year old Cub Cadet. Mine still outperforms more expensive units including a big hydraulic drive 13HP unit I rented once. Mine came with a Honda motor and starts with only one pull since day 1.
The Husqvarna tiller...I saw a couple of videos where they had problems with the main handle bar breaking. Does this one have that problem?
If you watch that video again carefully you will see that the "reviewer" is mishandling the Husqvarna. Hardly a fair review. He puts the machine in a pit of clay and rather than let it do the work, he forces it. Don't believe me, just go over the video yourself and you decide if the reviewer is doing an honest and fair review.
The fact that the Husquvrna and its cousin the Yardmax have a single pole allows you to control the machine with one hand. You can't use it however for what it wasn't design to do.
@@debralegorreta1375 Yes he was making it jump up and down.. But that shouldnt of broke the bar being as thick as it was, China steel i guess
they have vertical tine tillers I would like to be able to test drive one counter-rotating tines tillers I thought you meant that one half went forward while the other half went backwards you say the time stopped rotating if it hit something hard not sure how that works but if it's like a belt slipping how often you got to replace that junk
Either the belt slips or there's a centrifugal clutch in it. Probably just a belt slippage issue.
I have a Troy Bilt Roto Tiller from the 70's and the dang belts stretch so bad its a continuous problem having to replace them. Pretty poor design really, but its belt drive from the engine to the transmission, then gear/shaft drive to the wheels/tines, so much heavier built than these lighter weight machines but still not worth the $1200+ that Troy Bilt wants for them now.
@@wildbill23c the Champion says it has a gear-driven transmission.
@@davidquinn9676 The transmission in my Troy Bilt is gear driven too, but it has a belt from the engine to the transmission input shaft....I think most are that way...I know a lot of the front tine tillers are chain drive, and some of the rear tine ones are as well, which I think would be better. If yours is gear drive all the better, no chains to wear and stretch and no belts to wear and stretch and break.
Spent all day in the yard with this machine. As expected, it's about 10X faster than doing it with small electric tiller. Surprisingly though, the small tiller is a bit better with rocks. This machine hits a large rock (or a root) and stops. The small one jumps up and down and eventually knocks it lose. With the Yardmax, I have to go around front an dig it out by hand. Smaller rocks it can handle fine.
Tips:
Adjust the handle at just below belly button level. DON'T put it at crotch level. You will regret it when it hits a root.
Unlike the smaller tillers, when it starts to bog down in heavy clay (and it will), lift up a bit on the back.
Don't try to muscle it around too much. You'll just tire yourself out. Let the machine do the work. Use forward and reverse and stop the tines for easier turning.
This is not a great machine for heavy work, but it's adequate.
has anyone used the furrower with it?
Is there a video that shows how to fill up oil in this machine and how to drain it? There seem to be two openings, both with dip sticks and they are located at the MOST INCONVENIENT plane on the machine.
Easy....
To remove the oil use a fluid extractor.
To fill the oil use a quart sized oil pump (screws into the top of a quart bottle)
At your request: I own a Troy-Bilt Horse with an 8 HP Kohler engine (Mid 90s). I am very happy with it, esp the weight (I think it's about 300 pounds). However, the tines only spin in one direction, (the same direction as the machine), it will run away from the operator.
nice tiller and pirce
It sucks the belts don’t last and they’re hard to find
I almost bought one of these. I really like the price and travel gear. Plus it's got a Briggs engine, so it'll be reliable. I started looking at this one after my uncle bought his. It did really well at first. He loved it the first season. But he did have to tighten a ton of bolts that were loose when unboxed. My real issue is parts availability. Second season it broke. I know everything does, so that wasn't the issue. But Yardmax was the only source for parts. Im sure it's a clone, but nothing in stock at the repair shop fit and my uncle didn't want to pay to order parts and not be sure they'd work. At least that's what he told me. I haven't found anything that says for sure what (if anything) it's copied from. That's the main reason I won't buy one. I don't know what happens when they roll out a new model and stop supporting this one. I dont know If I'll ever be able to get parts. My front tine is 45 years old and I could build an entire new one with new parts if I wanted. There's little to no info about this one. This video is pretty much all that I've found. It's a quality review and I enjoy the channel. I was excited when I saw this tiller, but it seems like a fleeting tool that once broken might not ever be repaired again. I'm not bashing the brand at all. It looks nice. But until I know for sure where to get parts, I won't buy one. And I wont recommend them. For as much as they get used, my equipment needs to be serviceable for many years. They're expensive and I don't want to have to buy another.
why bother if it was still in warranty? when it was still in Warranty information
2 Year Residential; 90 Day Commercialy warrnety
i want one, but i dont know where id put it. i need a bigger garage...
Looks like a great tiller. How does the Yardmax name compare to say Toro or Troy-Bilt?
Thank God for a good review video. It is near impossible to find good rear tine tiller reviews. Mostly all robot voices reading factory specs..... doesn't help at all
Whoa!! It has a Briggs engine...great. But then I see those tines gumbo balling up and now it's a no go.
That is the exact same tiller that DR sells as their own new tiller
Amazon link is for a front time tiller. Incorrect link.
Is it me or do all the new tillers look like copies of each other
Shut it off again at wide open throttle! I like that!
+Jay Metheral you turn the throttle below slow to shut it off....it's not a kill switch.
Daaaaaaaamnnnnnn good call out!🤙
I agree with the bad reviews given to the Yardmax YT4564. Forget about ordering replacement tines. Last spring (2023) me and my brother in law on seperate emails requested info on tines, and both times Yardmax says they're all out and they would contact us when they restalked. Its now fall of 2024. Still no contact. Were looking into making our own before the spring of 2025. And now we cant get the coil shipped to us because of California prop 65 hazardous material blah blah blah. Not Yardmax fault but sheesh. I dont plan on eating the coil. Sheesh!
Be nice to know if it was Belton or chain driven. Oh! Awesome vids man🖒
+That Welder chain driven & the tines are belt driven. 👍
The smaller tillers don't cut deep enough. ith the more expensive makes like BSC from Italy they cut with more depth.
The Champion cuts deeper too, for about the same price. No transport or forward mode, but I would imagine it's sturdier. Can't compare to the BSC or Italian tillers because I never used them.
LOOKS alot like3 my Cub Cadet RT 65 But my tires are WAY taller... Love my Cubbie w/ a Kohler 6,5 hp.. gotta be made by the same folks!!!
One hour to do 18' feet. Yikes I got a lot of work cut out for me.
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Much better! Yee haw! Ride em cowboy! I'll be done in no time. Thanks!
MDT makes most them
Can not find any ware in va.usa
+Real Tool Reviews Just a suggestion, mainly for reviews of impacts, drills, etc. but I'm posting it here because it's the latest review: Even though you're American, not all your viewers are. So even if you consider the imperial system to be the standard, I'm sure that many people would appreciate if you added the metric values at least as captions.
google it like everyone else does dictator
Turn down the intro volume for crying out loud.
Sheesh!!!
I really don't know why but some do break alot then get pissed lol. it's all in the operator
This is the same as my craftsman from the 80's only difference is handle and motor... Others are teh same but with different name and premium $ if has Briggs Stratton engine which in 2024 this model does not have anymore,
It can easy to start, but for 3 to 4 minutes then it shut off.
Don't be fooled by the video. We received our tiller a couple weeks ago. The adjustable handle will not lock down because the part is defective. Several phone calls to service yield nothing more than "just tighten it" but they refuse to send us the new part to needed to tighten. Now the tines don't rotate. We've tried every trouble shooting fix and still can't get them to rotate. My conclusion is we either received a lemon or it is a p.o.s. I'm banking on the latter and this thing will probably sit in the back of the garage, never to see the light of day again.
So……you admit yours is defective, and in the same breath suggest somehow I magically made mine work correctly to “fool people”….. great logic. 👍
Who wants to use a tiller that you have to stoop over to operate when at full depth? if that handle doesn't adjust upward anymore more than what it shows in this video that's a deal killed...it hurts my back just watching that.
Keep in mind I’m also 6’2”….
Be careful when buying a Yardmax I bought one got it home and then realized it had a Chinese motor on it!
why wouldnt it ?
@@shawnthomas7404 Chinese aren't known for building good motors. I expected a Briggs & Stratton or anything American
@@donniechapman5922 I thouhgt Briggs & Stratton are made in china now too