Imagine being Louen and witnessing Orion leaving Athel Loren to go on some exodus to the west leaving only his allies to defend. Seeing the golden opportunity to claim it, you do. Then you hear from Orion and he wants peace and you learn hes fighting Naggarond and Lothen for some reason you cannot fathom, thinking nothing of it you accept his offer because surely he'll just die over there without his forest to sustain him. The next time you hear from Orion he breaks your non aggression pact. Must have been a real oh fuck moment for Louen when Orion walks by his settlements towards Athel Loren a short time later.
Great video, especially if you pretend that Legend's commentary is the ongoing internal monologue of Orion. "A part of me kind of hopes that... Har Ganeth confederates into Naggarond and that the High Elves bash that stupid bitch as much as possible. What's her name? Hellebron?" - Orion, Snarky-aggressive ruler of the Wood Elves
The best part was how you told Hellebron to f-off for asking for a non-aggression pac for 9k last episode, only to pay them 10k to do the same this time :P
Athel Loren needs to be given forts on at least the mountain pass, like the Empire just got. Their settlements should also get, if not walls, then just some cliffs the archers can perch on!
Good stuff! FYI (at noone in particular) there are % based factors that may change upon retreading ground without anything done differently (i.e. no butterfly effect, just random chance).
I looked away for a moment and heard Legend: I think we should pay Hellebron for a non-aggression pact. Hellebron: Your blood will drench the earth this night! Legend: Now I believe I'm going to have to pay something in the vicinity of ten thousand. Hellebron: FffUCK.
as a side note on the AI that you mentioned, we could technically have "smarter AI" without considering more options but taking certain "routs" so to call it, to make it interesting by learning patterns of players and imitating the way they act in certain ways. game AI is a really interesting subject
that wouldnt help in battles at all because its practically impossible for the AI to learn enough different strategies to be effective and creating routes for the AI to take wouldn't work because its constantly gonna get thrown into new situations which would require breaking off from those routes
@@lucasbeck1391 how do you think the ai that plays starcraft learned? Through analyzing a lot of pro games and then establishing a route to take. It is completly possible the only question is how much you want to invest in it and how good do you want to make the ai?
@@shakedmigdal6364 the ai in starcraft learned from alot of battles and alot of different players and in starcraft the moves that pros make in the first few minutes are pretty much predetermined and starcraft is very different from total war
Spectacular! An argument on the internet that involved no cursing, contained actual reason and logic, and didn't degenerate into pre-kindergarten level insults!
I dont like how he acts like he didn’t do the same thing before at the start “uhhh lets haggle a little bit hmm lets try 65000” like he didn’t already do it like his saving your disaster battles too
I actually have a faster CPU. It never uses more than 40% of it's power, and I have plenty of stuff open in the background. At this point, the BUS and my harddrive are the bottleneck. That said, once I will put it on an SSD, the end turns will only hinge on the quality of the AI, and you CAN actually make decisionmaking faster, for example, you could compute all the moves that are not dependend on what moves your enemy does (e.g. what buildings you built and what you recrute in your safe armies), at the same time for all NPC factions.
I am surprised that CA haven't made the AI start to factor turns when it's your turn on the strategic map and certain auto-resolves. Maybe not if the player is actually close to the settlements, but more distant opponents could make planning moves at least. Although I guess the problem to that is that there is no Chaos to it (unless you bake in some pseudo random elements like mouse position on screen, cpu temperature etc, etc)
War of the Beard was against the elves before they fragmented into 3 separate groups. The original war of the beard saw the high elves leave the old world, with the exception of the wood elves who stayed behind.
@@spriteapple6053 Yep, and Woodelves are originaly some Darkelves AND Highelves that sought refuge in the forest and got a few body modifications by the forest itself.
Something else I’ve noticed is that when your waywatchers (shadow walkers in my case) are running away from an enemy it seems like all of your models shoot at one single fucking dude in the enemy unit. Wastes a ton of ammo and doesn’t kill them nearly as quickly as if you give them an actual attack order. Just saw where you said that, it’s only when your troops are shooting while running away. When they’re still they dont do that.
Autoresolve heavily favours missile units in Warhammer, and on top of that your only melee units are spearmen, so the game thinks your army is uber strong against cavalry based Bretonnia.
back then did hag gref have it's custome mine settlement available to wood elves? I only ask because the data mining websites for campaign buildings said they did
OMG... i take back my comment from.previous comment。yu are gOd of Total war... u can escape.from.north crossing ulthuan north sea, make peace with dark elves and High elves... reach Old world Coast again and reclaim.yur homeland...one of the most hardest task but u still completed it
Waywatchers have vanguard deployment and with the right heroes you can get them shooting at a 230 range making them mini artillery Another buff is that one of the buildings the woodelves can build in their outpost settlement raises missile damage by 1%, while one alone is nothing by the end of a long game you would have built these things everywhere
I don't know if u read comments but i love your shit man. I hate that all the warhammer youtubers jumped onto the new Total war game. Its just fucking terrible, imo. Glad ur still here bro.
haha Horn of the Wild Hunt is pretty shit when you don't have a charge army xD terrible stats when you compare it to others. "Orion is the biggest dickhead, not a very impressive lord", wood elves completely rekt xD
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You should have called the episode "there and back again" by orion baggins
that's clever
Part 1 - Orion Far From Home
Part 2 - Orion Returning Home
Great video btw Legend :))
Part 3 Orion Home Alone?
PART 2. Orion Home coming
Part 3 . ORION home alone (last wood elves)
More like "Defend Home"
Good one, or:
Part 1 - A new hope
Part 2 - The Woodelfs strike back
part 3 - Return of the Woodelfs
Legend: "Not one step back!"
Also Legend, 5 minutes later: "Keep falling back!"
Great video, love your strategies.
Imagine being Louen and witnessing Orion leaving Athel Loren to go on some exodus to the west leaving only his allies to defend. Seeing the golden opportunity to claim it, you do.
Then you hear from Orion and he wants peace and you learn hes fighting Naggarond and Lothen for some reason you cannot fathom, thinking nothing of it you accept his offer because surely he'll just die over there without his forest to sustain him.
The next time you hear from Orion he breaks your non aggression pact.
Must have been a real oh fuck moment for Louen when Orion walks by his settlements towards Athel Loren a short time later.
This disaster campaign became a time travel drama. I love it.
Good thing the wood elves got reworked, this is just brutal
Yeah, razing multiple settlements allows you to reduce the starveout timer by up to another 3. Makes for pretty quick sieges a lot of the time
"Don't know how i'm going to maintain public order here" - Clan Mors Pre Eight-Peaks
1:05 - I love how you speaking about possibly horrible things happening coincided with beginning of creepy chanting in the background.
Great video, especially if you pretend that Legend's commentary is the ongoing internal monologue of Orion.
"A part of me kind of hopes that... Har Ganeth confederates into Naggarond and that the High Elves bash that stupid bitch as much as possible. What's her name? Hellebron?"
- Orion, Snarky-aggressive ruler of the Wood Elves
War of the beard 2 electric boogaloo
Amber boogaloo
The best part was how you told Hellebron to f-off for asking for a non-aggression pac for 9k last episode, only to pay them 10k to do the same this time :P
That is the most Phoenix Guards I've ever seen in a campaign. AI you crazy!
Of course in May of 2020, we're more enlightened and we know that the best archer unit in the game is in fact Irondrakes with Trollhammer torpedoes.
It's so interesting how those SYDC give Legend new ways to play the ME campaing.
Epic gamer confirmed yet again
Athel Loren needs to be given forts on at least the mountain pass, like the Empire just got. Their settlements should also get, if not walls, then just some cliffs the archers can perch on!
It's not the butterfly effect, it's even different if you do exactly the same because the AI rolls out some decisions.
WH1 and I believe early versions of WH2 didn't have the whole "United Against us" spam and the game was a lot more fun
Yes, please continue with this campaign.
Good stuff!
FYI (at noone in particular) there are % based factors that may change upon retreading ground without anything done differently (i.e. no butterfly effect, just random chance).
Hippity Hoppity the forest is again my property.
I looked away for a moment and heard
Legend: I think we should pay Hellebron for a non-aggression pact.
Hellebron: Your blood will drench the earth this night!
Legend: Now I believe I'm going to have to pay something in the vicinity of ten thousand.
Hellebron: FffUCK.
Loved this SYDC... Should have called it.. Legend - Our years in Exile.......lol
Yeahh.. Orion Far From.Home, Orion HomeComing, and orion Last Wood Elves
id like another one. wouldn't mind watching a few where you try alternate start positions and try get home.
Yes, really glad this got a second part thanks LOTW
'burn all the trees away' -LegendofTotalWar, Wood Elf
as a side note on the AI that you mentioned, we could technically have "smarter AI" without considering more options but taking certain "routs" so to call it, to make it interesting by learning patterns of players and imitating the way they act in certain ways. game AI is a really interesting subject
that wouldnt help in battles at all because its practically impossible for the AI to learn enough different strategies to be effective and creating routes for the AI to take wouldn't work because its constantly gonna get thrown into new situations which would require breaking off from those routes
@@lucasbeck1391 how do you think the ai that plays starcraft learned? Through analyzing a lot of pro games and then establishing a route to take.
It is completly possible the only question is how much you want to invest in it and how good do you want to make the ai?
@@shakedmigdal6364 the ai in starcraft learned from alot of battles and alot of different players and in starcraft the moves that pros make in the first few minutes are pretty much predetermined and starcraft is very different from total war
Spectacular! An argument on the internet that involved no cursing, contained actual reason and logic, and didn't degenerate into pre-kindergarten level insults!
Where were you when the Second Beard War started?
I like how mung asked for a non aggression pact and immediately started raiding after you said no.
Just another epic save by Legend
Damn those waywatcher are armed with carbines ro something ?
why would you skill orion's speedbuff over his onslaught? he tears through pretty much anything in cc that gets close to him.
Close combat? What's that?
@@kdhlkjhdlk A pokemon move
I dont like how he acts like he didn’t do the same thing before at the start “uhhh lets haggle a little bit hmm lets try 65000” like he didn’t already do it like his saving your disaster battles too
just a little thought: you may cut all the waiting others turn part
Slow down a bit. Dwarves. What, you want them to move backwards?
I actually have a faster CPU. It never uses more than 40% of it's power, and I have plenty of stuff open in the background. At this point, the BUS and my harddrive are the bottleneck. That said, once I will put it on an SSD, the end turns will only hinge on the quality of the AI, and you CAN actually make decisionmaking faster, for example, you could compute all the moves that are not dependend on what moves your enemy does (e.g. what buildings you built and what you recrute in your safe armies), at the same time for all NPC factions.
I am surprised that CA haven't made the AI start to factor turns when it's your turn on the strategic map and certain auto-resolves. Maybe not if the player is actually close to the settlements, but more distant opponents could make planning moves at least. Although I guess the problem to that is that there is no Chaos to it (unless you bake in some pseudo random elements like mouse position on screen, cpu temperature etc, etc)
Haha this is great. Please a part 3.
Computer running out of storage from all the TW2 save files
the AI never plays the same after a crash, its mostly just random like a roll of the dice
Wasn't war of the beard with high elves?
War of the Beard was against the elves before they fragmented into 3 separate groups. The original war of the beard saw the high elves leave the old world, with the exception of the wood elves who stayed behind.
LegendofTotalWar Didn't the dark elves separate from the high elves before the war of the beard?
@@spriteapple6053 Yep, and Woodelves are originaly some Darkelves AND Highelves that sought refuge in the forest and got a few body modifications by the forest itself.
@@spriteapple6053 i think it hapned during the war of the beards
Well they are certainly smoking trees to make their home next to men with an ax obsession.
the return of the king
I came so early the Fay Enchantress had my babies
Could you publish the save files after you finish the disaster campaigns?
Something else I’ve noticed is that when your waywatchers (shadow walkers in my case) are running away from an enemy it seems like all of your models shoot at one single fucking dude in the enemy unit. Wastes a ton of ammo and doesn’t kill them nearly as quickly as if you give them an actual attack order.
Just saw where you said that, it’s only when your troops are shooting while running away. When they’re still they dont do that.
Autoresolve heavily favours missile units in Warhammer, and on top of that your only melee units are spearmen, so the game thinks your army is uber strong against cavalry based Bretonnia.
Love the thumbnail
Its less ur autoresolve strength than bretonias auto resolve weakness
looking forward to the world war beard stream after watching this lol
One of these days you'll have to change your name to God of Total War.
8 losses to 1386 is pretty close if you ask me. XD
back then did hag gref have it's custome mine settlement available to wood elves? I only ask because the data mining websites for campaign buildings said they did
OMG... i take back my comment from.previous comment。yu are gOd of Total war... u can escape.from.north crossing ulthuan north sea, make peace with dark elves and High elves... reach Old world Coast again and reclaim.yur homeland...one of the most hardest task but u still completed it
please continue :)
Is/was there A Part 3?
At this point I am thinking theyre trolling you because this campaing was like I want to lose at porpouse and then let the result to legend XD
YE BOI
The game : 8 Loses, 1386 kills
Also the game : Close Victory, we call it a draw?
What do you mean you won't be able to trade with anyone but Bretonnia? Your capital is Naggarond xD
epic
Nooooooooooooo you killing my Dawi? 😢
Epic
Lets continue!
is there a link for any live stream continuation?
Wouldn't your army be pretty screwed against Grudgethrowers and Thunderers, though?
Waywatchers have vanguard deployment and with the right heroes you can get them shooting at a 230 range making them mini artillery
Another buff is that one of the buildings the woodelves can build in their outpost settlement raises missile damage by 1%, while one alone is nothing by the end of a long game you would have built these things everywhere
I don't know if u read comments but i love your shit man. I hate that all the warhammer youtubers jumped onto the new Total war game. Its just fucking terrible, imo. Glad ur still here bro.
What build do you use for your pc?
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I saw the necrarch brotherhood anong the factions. Are they khemri rebels?
Is all the Wood elves have is waywatchers?
Yes.
wtf is this wood elves autoresolve doomstack... is it the 4 leveled heroes?
Yes bby
Woodelves new faction play is so much better defending your forest and healing them. This old way seem so not lore friendly at all
Why did the trees in Naggarond change?
The Seeding, when Wood Elves colonize a region, they plant trees, lots and lots of trees, SO MANY TREES.
yus !!
haha Horn of the Wild Hunt is pretty shit when you don't have a charge army xD terrible stats when you compare it to others. "Orion is the biggest dickhead, not a very impressive lord", wood elves completely rekt xD
I've been watching this vid and spammign ads between battles. Wonder if that works as ad revenue or is it just midrolls
Weightwatchers! Immediately!
Damn WE are so bad... No settlements, no artillery
Hello legend of total war, I would like to get in touch with you through discord regarding a tournament Im going to host. Could you please give me an invite link to one of your discords or your ID so I can pm you?