I always say if Crocs could just make a work boot and a motorcycle boot, my life would be complete. Five years ago I wouldn't be caught dead wearing Crocs but now I wear nothing but Crocs when I'm home
I’ve found shin protection to be foot peg protection. Low sided one time where my shin smacked the foot peg. Had a slight tear on my riding pant, but the shin protector on the Sidi Adventurer boot saved a nasty shin bruise and possible skin puncture for the second half of my 3 week trip.
Another great real-world review. I'd add the SIDI Adventure 2 to the list of great ADV boots, for one thing my previous ADV1s were still going strong a decade later; and as someone who crushed both heels 12 years ago (and spent 2 years learning to walk again), they are one of the few boots that easily accept custom orthotics allowing me to stand all day with minimal pain. Like so many Rev'it products, I really wanted to like the Pioneer H2Os, but hated them the moment I tried walking around my house. Got tired of everything they make falling apart in 2 years anyway.
I have the Forma Adventure Lows, very comfortable and seems to have great ankle protection, obviously not the same level as a tall boot. Only complaint is the toe box is too bulky and makes shifting a bit of a guess game.
@@exparrot9074 I also have Forma Adventure Lows and had to raise the gear shift by about 1cm to accommodate the toe box. Ireally like them for comfort on and off the bike but I'd be interested to know if they're robust enough for off-roading.
Another great review for adults - you don't treat us like idiots and point out the relative trade-offs with each of the boots. I especially liked your comment on risk. Personal assessment of risk is one of the things I fear we aren't teaching people anymore. Everything has a degree of risk and making an informed, personally appropriate decision is an important life skill. Happy to risk losing your foot? Wear sheepskin slippers - they are really comfortable.
I hear you with the Gore tex boots. They are waterproof until you pour water into them. That said, I loves me my Sidi Adventure 2 Gore Tex. They offer pretty good protection, keep your feet warm and dry when it's pissing rain all day. But they aren't motocross boots. I'm not afraid to get my adv bike dirty, but I don't mistake it for a motocross bike! Great review.
I just bought a pair of Alpinestar Tech 7 Enduros. I went with these over the Drystar version for the reasons you gave, waterproof boots don't breath that well and take longer to dry out. To counter that I got some Seal Skinz waterproof socks. I haven't had a chance to test it out just yet since its currently 6F and won't be getting much warmer anytime soon.
Wonder if you'll have the same problem with breathability with the waterproof socks? I should be able to answer this question myself as I have the same socks but just haven't gotten around to trying them. Also haven't bought my boots yet, still shopping. The Tech 7's are high on my list, but not sure whether I'd do the Enduro or DryStar yet. Appreciate your input.
@@Road_Rash1 Goretex socks are lifesavers when used correctly. I can even use my tech 3 for ski-biking with those socks! Few quick tips: -Goretex is really worth it for the breathability. -Take 1 pair of boots that dries well or 2 pairs (1 summer and 1 goretex for colder temps) -If it's hot and you'll be working a bit, take them off and save them for the ride out with dry socks.
@@michelwaknin9893 Depends on what you mean by little. They are kind a like walking in Ski boots....I'd recommend Forma Adventure boots if you want decent protection ( less than the Tech 7s) and comfortable to walk a bit in.
Nice Review. You should have a look at the GAERNE SG12 also.... Its some time to feel comfortable in it, but man. does are great if you are used to them!
Great video Bret.👍 Thank you for that. I have bought the Forma Terrain EVO for my offroad rides. Still in search for an offroad boot that I can wear under pants and I can walk with.
I've been using the Tera 1st generation for almost 5 years. Ride the bike to work every day and play in the desert when I can. IMO they are quite good for what they are and for the price and as a bonus I can say I have a pair of Italian leather boots 😁😁😁😁
I use Alpinestars Toucan. Three adv seasons now. Can't recommend them highly enough. I ride with atv'rs and there are significant water crossings regularly, and no leakage as long as I don't go over. Cons: squeak when walking, especially when commuting to the office. Also, no third/top strap, but a velcro attachment. So really only a two strap boot. Fits my EE feet.
Love my Toucans too, HOWEVER. They are quite a bit less protective than my dirtbike Gaerne SG12 (offroad gold standard boot). in particular, i had my 790 break my toe when it fell handlebar-first on my toebox. Also like any goretex kit, it will eventually get wet, after a day of riding in the rain it will be damp for another 3 unless you have drier or something.
Indeed. Just checked the stats and it has a sole plate, but bends like the tech 7’s in the video. Also did your head bend test and crush check... doesn’t measure up to the Sidi’s it seems. But Sidi’s seem to be too narrow for people with wide feet? Perhaps Gaerne...?
@@leongous of course everything is subjective, but the upper boot encloses with a large velcro strap and the armor locks use toothed belts that would be easy to swap out for something longer. I don't have massive calves or anything, but I think anyone up to a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle should be fine.
My Alpinestar Toucans have held up well! Pricey, but after riding in them for the last five ish years they still work well and I would say the price is justified.
I'm a fan of Alpinestars because they have a nice wide toe-box... I wear a wide to extra-wide shoe and I never feel cramped in my Tech 7 Enduro Drystars.
I see a lot of people love the tech 7, I looked into the Forma and Alpinestars. I ended up with the Corozal as I wanted something I could walk around in and have them on all day. In the future I'd like to get a short of the Corozal or Forma and get the 7 to push my limits.
Good to see Sidi on the list. Twice! They don't get the credit they deserve. They make great street boots too, with an almost perfect balance of style, function, and durability.
@@braackw once you've ordered online and they've come through customs, you would have to pay 40% import duty on any clothing items ... Then it's a hassle of they don't fit our there is a warranty claim ...
I believe the "GS boot" is made by Forma. Forma Terrain TX boot and the Forma Dominator boot (discontinued) with a nice BMW badge and a bigger price tag.
All the BMW gear / aftermarket options are made by others and rebranded. Even their panniers and top cases. Jackets, boots the whole range. Yea importing gear is a massive pain especially if the brand is not locally supported 🥴
After recently sustaining Achilles rupture I'm looking for boots with best protection for this part of the leg. Any good ideas for good boots that offer such a feature.?
Hey Brett would be great to do another comparison with the new revit discovery gtx ver 2. I had the ver 1 for 35000km and loved them the ver 2 is even better with it being much easier to get your foot in and out of the boot. Done about 12000km in them so far and no issues. Would love to see your take and see if they stack up against SG10 or SG 12?
Anything will leak if subjected to enough pressure. I wear some Corozals when riding in the woods at low speed and on gravel roads. I know they are not as protective as boots like those Sidis. They are exactly what you said, “adventure boots,” namely a step down in protection but comfortable. After falling in the woods I found myself lying under my drz with the foot peg on the ankle. They did fine. The big scratch right at my ankle is a good reminder to wear protection.
What would be your thoughts on the Gaerne and Forma Enduro boots? I have wide feet, so cannot comfortably fit in Sidi or Alpinestars. I enjoyed your other video of boots, which included these two makes, hence my interest in why they're missing from this list.
Great review. Bought the Alpine Star Toucans for long multiple day off-road adventure riding. Stiff sole, shin protection, hinged at the ankle, crush protection, Gortex waterproof (critical for Northern Canada riding and do not have to carry boot covers), and most importantly they are wider than the Sidi which I find are too narrow. Down side to the Toucan? Price.
I ride a 250L, mostly logging roads. I wear the Forma boots. They are not full height, probably similar to that last boot shown. They are waterproof. I'm in Oregon so we do get some rain and snow. I love how Brett pointed out the shape of the toe. I never thought about that. The more shallow toe makes a lot of sense for shifting. I've heard Gaerne makes a great boot, never had any though. What does everyone else wear?
I had a question all lined up for you but you answered it with the last boot. Glad I watched the whole video first. Thanks. FYI my question was if you ride back and forth to work everyday or a trip to the store would you wear a full motocross boot?
I started with Sidi Adventure 2 boots but felt the lack of support when riding aggressive. Now I have the Alpinestars Tech7 drystar and happy with them for all sorts of riding.
That's basically the whole range of possibilities. Thanks for the great lesson on how to choose one. I'll def watch again when I go shopping for new ones!
Thank you sir for the great info and explanations for the different levels available. Very timely for me as I move from touring and start “GS/ADV” riding.
I bought the Sidi Crossfire 3s yesterday at a great deal. Amazing boot, I'm sure it's the most protective boot you can get your hands on. The hinge works really well. Unfortunately they didn't fit my foot, got serious pain in my right foot. I guess the next natural step is the tech 7s. Not sure if I want them to be waterproof as that tends to dry out much slower.
The best buy on the market for an ADV touring boot is the BMW Venture Grip ($300 for GTX and leather) or if you want more dirt focus the Alpinestars Tech 7 are a solid performer
Great review and perspective on the different types of ADV boots. Looks like you got some new wheels. Most excellent! What happened to the KTM 790 adventure R??
@@BretTkacs 🤕👎 That must be frustrating. I know you’ve ridden BMW for years. Could you speak to the GS reliability compared to KTM? In the Consumer Reports reliability survey from 2014, BMW scored very well on owner satisfaction but a 1/3 chance of having a problem (from data based on 4,424 reader responses regarding 4,680 motorcycles bought new from 2009-2012).
Great video thanks. I started out 4 years ago with low comfy boots, then got some higher Comfy ADV boots, then got some Alpinestars Corozal, then ended up with Alpinestars Tech 7. Over time I eventually realised after a few minor spills that you need a decent boot if you do a lot of off road riding. Maybe Sidi crossfires will be next. Cheers
For everyday riding and off road do u think corozal has enough protection. I hesitate between corozal and tech7. I laso need waterproff. What do u advice?
@@michelwaknin9893 I think the Corozal boots give a moderately good level of protection. Not as stiff as Tech 7, but still quite solid. They only have 2 buckles, but Tech 7 have 4 buckles. I still wear my Corozal for Adventure riding on my KTM 690. Advantage is they are much more water proof. But the Tech 7 are more robust and better for harder technical riding and I always wear these when riding my Husky 501.
The Forma Adventure boot shouldn't be passed over. Here's why... I own the BMW Rallye boots (and some others). Definitely top of the line and your feet are likely to survive, even if you don't. They are utterly useless for adventure riding: you can't walk. Paying for gas is a chore. Scouting difficult terrain is nonsense. Getting off to take in views, even a short distance, is passed over. They ruin the adventure in riding. ...back to the Adventure boots. Comfortable, water proof, walk-able, great traction, and suitable levels of safety for adventure riders. They absolutely improve the quality of every adventure ride.
I own both the Adventure and the Terra Evo, great boots for touring and commuting but terrible for offroad use, the toe box flexes too much and you have a limited heal support, the back of the boot is so soft you can crush it with your fingers. Again, great for touring but not what I would use offroad.
@@rbrtmllr you can wear what you want, your skill and risk level dictate what you wear, but as far as protection goes, we just have to agree to disagree on the Forma boots. I would never recommend them to an ADV rider that is heading off-road. Sure they're great for the gas station and Starbucks, but that's not what we're talking about here.
@Dan Manthe the Adventure is a great boot other than the very flexible sole. The Forma Terra Evo is a similar boot, but more rigid in the sole and laterally.
Don't have waterproof boots and don't feel like shelling out 400 to 1000 USD? Try some neoprene fishing socks for wading into water. They won't breathe well but that's the trade off for "waterproofing"
You DO want that crash protection @ 5:35 especially with Beemers. GS's are quite capable of breaking fibula's in 1/2 w/those gad dank protruding cylinders. Don't ask me how I know.
Hey Bret, I love your videos. Someday I hope to make it to one of your training camps. I'm a new rider. I live in upstate NY and plan to haul my TW200 to some trails when it gets too cold to hit the roads. I just bought a pair of Sidi Crossfire 3's based on your recommendation. My concern is that for riding the dirt roads around my house, the boot's rigidity may introduce some risk because I may be slower getting to the shifter &/or rear brake. I'll probably keep the boots for woods riding, but do you think they are appropriate for a new rider to wear on the road? If not, any recommendations? I'm looking at the Klim Outlander GTX Boots.
The Sidi Crossfire looks perfect for me. Unfortunately their website doesn't show any availability in the USA and they will not take new orders from USA. Edit; excellent presentation, I sub'd. Thank you for not playing crappy background music while you're talking!
I have learnt it the hard way with several ankle injuries. The tech 7 (without drystar) are the only boots I’m wearing nowadays. They are working surprisingly well in heat and even in rain or puddles. I chose also some water proof socks like the sealskins.
@@michelwaknin9893 From what I read hot in summer, but also if you ride through water and somehow get water inside, you will have wet feet all day and they are hard to dry... I do think a regular boot + waterproof sock combo is the smart way to go.
Oh shit, man, I'm telling you, keep your work on, you're good on it ;) I'm watching your videos like crazy and it's 3am now and I must be up at 7am LOL
Thank for all the info.... do you tell me about the Alpinestars Toucan.... if it is good for adventure rider...(r1200gs) .... I m not aggressive rider but I spend a lot off time in trail.... Thank you
Thanks for another great video Bret. Your expert opinions and advice is always very much appreciated. Any chance you could do an updated one of these? I’ve been enjoying my Revit Expedition boots. But agree that a thinner shin would be nice (not a deal breaker though), and sadly mine have had the odd leak here and there when going through large puddles, etc. I’m considering upgrading to the newer GTX version, but would like to compare to the SIDI, Aplinestars and even the new Klim alternatives. Thanks again.
Do you have a video anywhere on tire pressure? I run 36/40 on my v strom 1000. I use moto z tires, I saw a video of a guy saying he runs 30 front and back. But I just don't know?? Brett what's your thoughts? Thanks so much for your time and help
First things first: I like your objective and to the point video's! For me the SIDI crossfire proofs to be the best choice. Ride a GSA 1200, apparently to hard because this summer I crash it and dropped down 15m from a roadside cliff. Broke my back on to spots (W4/5), but had no further injuries especially my legs were OK. I noticed the Crossfires took a good beating but are good to go!
Regarding Sidi Adventure (goretex). It's beefier street high boot, I agree. Or it's 'light adventure', like my motorcycle (vstrom 650). Some time ago after my bike landed on my leg, I was super happy that my calf is better protected than, say, Rev'it H2O.
I like my Forma All Terrain hinged boots. Very comfortable for all day wear, hiking soles and great motocross protection smashing my feet into rocks and nasty shin level tree branches. SIDI is way too narrow in the toebox for my feet to feel good, otherwise they would be my choice. When I started getting more serious offroad, my first motocross Gaerne hinged boots worked out fine for enduro rides, just no hiking sole. . I need a wide toebox so Gaerne and Forma are always my first choice. Please stay away from those wannabe rugged looking adventure boots which look cool, but don't have motocross type armor...Forma even makes some of these too. Great video. Cheers!
Toucans and Sidi are my boots of choice. Got my first Sidi in 1972! Never had a problem with waterproofed boots with the new ones. They never got wet on the inside! I haven't bought boots in my last 80,000 miles but my concern is about sole replacement!! Some brands/models the soles can be replaced with OEM or similar. Depending on what country you are in! In the USA in particular very few places will replace soles but it takes time, lost of time. There are countries where you will find a cobbler that will work and replace OEM soles with better products! Great video. Cheers
Thank you so much for a very informative review! I recently purchased the SIDI X-3, the fit (sz13) is spot on and the build quality looks to be great. Are they stiff? You bet! But, the protection level is super good and should last me many a mile! In my mind, the Sidi checks most boxes for me!!
I feel like you got it kinda wrong by omitting the SIDI Adventure 2's. You do give up a bit of armor compared to the crossfire but you get waterproof using Gore-Tex. Still very stiff soul with good traction and ankle protection. Bonus they fit people with large calves.
What do you think of the Klim adventure goretex? Would they be protective enough for a complete dirt noob on a KTM 690 Enduro who wants to do single track and plans on dropping it frequently?
I would add Alpinestars tech 3 for low cost outstanding protection. Day to day riding and adv Ariat Rig Tek or Big Rig. So comfortable and supportive I can stand on the pegs all day. Cheers! You are greatly appreciated!
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Am I blind or did I miss Crocs on this list?
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I always say if Crocs could just make a work boot and a motorcycle boot, my life would be complete. Five years ago I wouldn't be caught dead wearing Crocs but now I wear nothing but Crocs when I'm home
I’ve found shin protection to be foot peg protection.
Low sided one time where my shin smacked the foot peg. Had a slight tear on my riding pant, but the shin protector on the Sidi Adventurer boot saved a nasty shin bruise and possible skin puncture for the second half of my 3 week trip.
@@CharlesT83that sounds HORRIBLE!
Another great real-world review. I'd add the SIDI Adventure 2 to the list of great ADV boots, for one thing my previous ADV1s were still going strong a decade later; and as someone who crushed both heels 12 years ago (and spent 2 years learning to walk again), they are one of the few boots that easily accept custom orthotics allowing me to stand all day with minimal pain.
Like so many Rev'it products, I really wanted to like the Pioneer H2Os, but hated them the moment I tried walking around my house. Got tired of everything they make falling apart in 2 years anyway.
Crossfire are nice, but are made for elfs with pointy toes. Toucan or Gaerne fit fat footed folks like me.
Great overview, especially on things to look for in a boot. And thanks for the lack of silly TH-camr salutations! 👍
Forma Adventure.
I have the Forma Adventure Lows, very comfortable and seems to have great ankle protection, obviously not the same level as a tall boot. Only complaint is the toe box is too bulky and makes shifting a bit of a guess game.
@@exparrot9074 I also have Forma Adventure Lows and had to raise the gear shift by about 1cm to accommodate the toe box. Ireally like them for comfort on and off the bike but I'd be interested to know if they're robust enough for off-roading.
@@kemosabe1 same, it wasn't an option, had to bring the shift lever up. Still a bit clumsy feeling, especially when standing.
@@kemosabe1 used them last year for a 700kms off-road trip, took a log to the foot like a Cham in Forma Adv, love them (look like normal boots)
Another great review for adults - you don't treat us like idiots and point out the relative trade-offs with each of the boots. I especially liked your comment on risk. Personal assessment of risk is one of the things I fear we aren't teaching people anymore. Everything has a degree of risk and making an informed, personally appropriate decision is an important life skill. Happy to risk losing your foot? Wear sheepskin slippers - they are really comfortable.
I hear you with the Gore tex boots. They are waterproof until you pour water into them. That said, I loves me my Sidi Adventure 2 Gore Tex. They offer pretty good protection, keep your feet warm and dry when it's pissing rain all day. But they aren't motocross boots. I'm not afraid to get my adv bike dirty, but I don't mistake it for a motocross bike! Great review.
Yup, Sidi Adventure 2 Gore Tex here too, and I think that they are the best boot on the market. I think the Gaerne Adventure comes a close second.
I'm buying a 650 Kawasaki versus for my first bike and I'm looking at The City adventure but I'm concerned about the thick toe and learning to shift.
Really happy with my Sidi adventure 2 boots. Not inexpensive put the quality is worth it.
Spot on! Great boot, all day waterproof and comfortable
The Sidi boots are awesome. Super squeaky but very good.
I just bought a pair of Alpinestar Tech 7 Enduros. I went with these over the Drystar version for the reasons you gave, waterproof boots don't breath that well and take longer to dry out. To counter that I got some Seal Skinz waterproof socks. I haven't had a chance to test it out just yet since its currently 6F and won't be getting much warmer anytime soon.
Wonder if you'll have the same problem with breathability with the waterproof socks? I should be able to answer this question myself as I have the same socks but just haven't gotten around to trying them. Also haven't bought my boots yet, still shopping. The Tech 7's are high on my list, but not sure whether I'd do the Enduro or DryStar yet. Appreciate your input.
@@Road_Rash1 Goretex socks are lifesavers when used correctly. I can even use my tech 3 for ski-biking with those socks!
Few quick tips:
-Goretex is really worth it for the breathability.
-Take 1 pair of boots that dries well or 2 pairs (1 summer and 1 goretex for colder temps)
-If it's hot and you'll be working a bit, take them off and save them for the ride out with dry socks.
Sockets , ouch .
Do you walk with the tech7 also? Is it ok for a little walk?
@@michelwaknin9893 Depends on what you mean by little. They are kind a like walking in Ski boots....I'd recommend Forma Adventure boots if you want decent protection ( less than the Tech 7s) and comfortable to walk a bit in.
Nice Review. You should have a look at the GAERNE SG12 also.... Its some time to feel comfortable in it, but man. does are great if you are used to them!
Great video Bret.👍 Thank you for that.
I have bought the Forma Terrain EVO for my offroad rides.
Still in search for an offroad boot that I can wear under pants and I can walk with.
I've been using the Tera 1st generation for almost 5 years. Ride the bike to work every day and play in the desert when I can. IMO they are quite good for what they are and for the price and as a bonus I can say I have a pair of Italian leather boots 😁😁😁😁
And what do you think about the Sidi Adventure 2?
Thanks
I use Alpinestars Toucan. Three adv seasons now. Can't recommend them highly enough. I ride with atv'rs and there are significant water crossings regularly, and no leakage as long as I don't go over. Cons: squeak when walking, especially when commuting to the office. Also, no third/top strap, but a velcro attachment. So really only a two strap boot. Fits my EE feet.
I love my Toucan's as well.
Love my Toucans too, HOWEVER. They are quite a bit less protective than my dirtbike Gaerne SG12 (offroad gold standard boot). in particular, i had my 790 break my toe when it fell handlebar-first on my toebox. Also like any goretex kit, it will eventually get wet, after a day of riding in the rain it will be damp for another 3 unless you have drier or something.
Me too!
It all depends on the boots mission... I have heard good things about the Toucan as a touring boot
Indeed. Just checked the stats and it has a sole plate, but bends like the tech 7’s in the video. Also did your head bend test and crush check... doesn’t measure up to the Sidi’s it seems. But Sidi’s seem to be too narrow for people with wide feet? Perhaps Gaerne...?
The Crossfire looks almost identical to my Gaerne SG-12s, which I always wear when I know I'm leaving pavement.
How much space on the calves? Can the size be adjusted on the SG-12's? I have very big calves.
@@leongous of course everything is subjective, but the upper boot encloses with a large velcro strap and the armor locks use toothed belts that would be easy to swap out for something longer. I don't have massive calves or anything, but I think anyone up to a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle should be fine.
@@leongous SG12s can be adjusted at the calves to either accomodate a knee brace or large calves.
Agree with others, my toucans are the best for me.
so others think that your toucans are the best for you too? :)
The revit pioneer is just a overpriced walking boot. In fact I’d say a good set of German made Meindl boot would give more protection.
My Alpinestar Toucans have held up well! Pricey, but after riding in them for the last five ish years they still work well and I would say the price is justified.
I recently purchased some Forma Adventure low boots,, comfortable and good protection
Have these as well, love them for the riding I do
I have the Forma ADV high boots for adv & dirtbiking. An excellent waterproof adv boot that should be compared also.
Everything OK, but in a flat cap !!!
I've been rocking Alpinestars Toucan. Love these boots.
in relation to the Zero, The Gaerne Balanced Oiled is a good option for those with wide feet. Just had mine re-soled, 16 years of service.
Super easy to break your lower leg in those
Great review, now for a hat review. 😁
..it held up to the boots being bent, 5 stars👍
Hat review! Great idea!!!
You forget the best of them all; Daytona's.
I'm a fan of Alpinestars because they have a nice wide toe-box... I wear a wide to extra-wide shoe and I never feel cramped in my Tech 7 Enduro Drystars.
Same reason I do not like Sidi. They just don't fit me well.
I see a lot of people love the tech 7, I looked into the Forma and Alpinestars. I ended up with the Corozal as I wanted something I could walk around in and have them on all day. In the future I'd like to get a short of the Corozal or Forma and get the 7 to push my limits.
How are Corozals? I bought forma Terra evo x (dry) and im a bit dissapointed with its low ankle support. Im not sure if its enough
@@Willixlonger I have a set and I love the Corozal
Good to see Sidi on the list. Twice! They don't get the credit they deserve. They make great street boots too, with an almost perfect balance of style, function, and durability.
I like Sidi, but they don't fit me well. 1st priority is good fit.
but they heavy like a hell
They just fit me right. Perfect
I wear Sidi race boots on the street. Can't say enough good about them as a company of quality motorcycle boots.
@@alt0v14 Yes! This is my only complaint.
Thank you for the great review of ADV boots, think that I know the boots I'm going to be buying next
I'm curious of the opinion about Astars toucan. I'm stuck with them rly as my foot is rly wide and I wanted to have something with gore
Great boots
They’re basically the same thing as the Sidi Adventures, but work better for people with wide feet.
It’s interesting that the BMW GS boot is never part of these comparisons. Here in South Africa the GS is considered the top of the line.
There are definitely better options out there. Maybe not in SA, look in USA, UK or AUS. But they come at a premium if you pay rands.
@@braackw once you've ordered online and they've come through customs, you would have to pay 40% import duty on any clothing items ... Then it's a hassle of they don't fit our there is a warranty claim ...
I believe the "GS boot" is made by Forma. Forma Terrain TX boot and the Forma Dominator boot (discontinued) with a nice BMW badge and a bigger price tag.
@@Maxcielle that would make sense. From what i understand they do the same with their helmets.
All the BMW gear / aftermarket options are made by others and rebranded. Even their panniers and top cases. Jackets, boots the whole range. Yea importing gear is a massive pain especially if the brand is not locally supported 🥴
So bret what up with the beemer? What happened to the 790?
After recently sustaining Achilles rupture I'm looking for boots with best protection for this part of the leg. Any good ideas for good boots that offer such a feature.?
Hey Brett would be great to do another comparison with the new revit discovery gtx ver 2. I had the ver 1 for 35000km and loved them the ver 2 is even better with it being much easier to get your foot in and out of the boot. Done about 12000km in them so far and no issues. Would love to see your take and see if they stack up against SG10 or SG 12?
Anything will leak if subjected to enough pressure.
I wear some Corozals when riding in the woods at low speed and on gravel roads. I know they are not as protective as boots like those Sidis. They are exactly what you said, “adventure boots,” namely a step down in protection but comfortable. After falling in the woods I found myself lying under my drz with the foot peg on the ankle. They did fine. The big scratch right at my ankle is a good reminder to wear protection.
What would be your thoughts on the Gaerne and Forma Enduro boots? I have wide feet, so cannot comfortably fit in Sidi or Alpinestars.
I enjoyed your other video of boots, which included these two makes, hence my interest in why they're missing from this list.
Have you reviewed the Alpinestars Toucan GTX?
Alpinestars TECH 7 Drystar
". . . turns out they're only waterproof to the top of the boot."
Really?
Maybe try hip-waders next time.
I've had Tech7 Drystar. Comfortable, but totally not waterproof. 20min of rain was enough to get the socks wet
Please elaborate on why you remove the steel toe covers and what purpose they are intended to serve
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Thanks very much
Great review.
Bought the Alpine Star Toucans for long multiple day off-road adventure riding. Stiff sole, shin protection, hinged at the ankle, crush protection, Gortex waterproof (critical for Northern Canada riding and do not have to carry boot covers), and most importantly they are wider than the Sidi which I find are too narrow.
Down side to the Toucan? Price.
I ride a 250L, mostly logging roads. I wear the Forma boots. They are not full height, probably similar to that last boot shown. They are waterproof. I'm in Oregon so we do get some rain and snow. I love how Brett pointed out the shape of the toe. I never thought about that. The more shallow toe makes a lot of sense for shifting. I've heard Gaerne makes a great boot, never had any though. What does everyone else wear?
I had a question all lined up for you but you answered it with the last boot. Glad I watched the whole video first. Thanks. FYI my question was if you ride back and forth to work everyday or a trip to the store would you wear a full motocross boot?
I might have gone for the Sidi MX boots and MTB shoes, but they are too narrow for my wide feet. I’d be interested in suggestions for 12EE feet.
I started with Sidi Adventure 2 boots but felt the lack of support when riding aggressive. Now I have the Alpinestars Tech7 drystar and happy with them for all sorts of riding.
What about flexibility for shifting.i don't care about walking
A very useful tutorial, and I agree with all what you said .... it all depends what are you planning to do on your bike ;)
Bret, great job as always! Keep up the good work!
I'm starting to get bald spots on my head what hat do you prefer
Lost me at 'its only waterproof to the top of the boot' No kidding.
That's basically the whole range of possibilities. Thanks for the great lesson on how to choose one. I'll def watch again when I go shopping for new ones!
Your videos gives lot of confidence thank you .
Thank you sir for the great info and explanations for the different levels available. Very timely for me as I move from touring and start “GS/ADV” riding.
my last name Tkacz, lol , Right on. we pronounce it like cotts
Sidi adventure 2 best boots ever
Helpful video. Thanks.
Wow! The video production here is a huge improvement! Love the detailed explanation of each boot! Now time to save some funds!
I bought the Sidi Crossfire 3s yesterday at a great deal. Amazing boot, I'm sure it's the most protective boot you can get your hands on. The hinge works really well. Unfortunately they didn't fit my foot, got serious pain in my right foot. I guess the next natural step is the tech 7s. Not sure if I want them to be waterproof as that tends to dry out much slower.
Love my Alpinstar Toucans!
Thank you so much! Really good review. I'm excited to hear about the podcast, there isn’t much two wheels' presence on this very important platform 👍👍
Thank you. What are your boot recommendations around the $300 US range, new ADV rider…happy holidays and attitude matters😊
The best buy on the market for an ADV touring boot is the BMW Venture Grip ($300 for GTX and leather) or if you want more dirt focus the Alpinestars Tech 7 are a solid performer
Verry well explained Bret,as always great help👍
nice selection and overview, thank you, V!
@Bret Have you any experience with Touratech-boots? Greetings from Germany
They are the same as the Rev'it! Expedition
Great review and perspective on the different types of ADV boots. Looks like you got some new wheels. Most excellent! What happened to the KTM 790 adventure R??
It's currently sitting at the shop again
@@BretTkacs 🤕👎 That must be frustrating. I know you’ve ridden BMW for years. Could you speak to the GS reliability compared to KTM? In the Consumer Reports reliability survey from 2014, BMW scored very well on owner satisfaction but a 1/3 chance of having a problem (from data based on 4,424 reader responses regarding 4,680 motorcycles bought new from 2009-2012).
Great video quality!!!! Good info.
Any 360p watchers?
It's still load the HD...
YEP! Notifications will always make me watch
@@BretTkacs what tyres are you running on the gs and how do you rate them against the mitas e07+?
Great video thanks. I started out 4 years ago with low comfy boots, then got some higher Comfy ADV boots, then got some Alpinestars Corozal, then ended up with Alpinestars Tech 7. Over time I eventually realised after a few minor spills that you need a decent boot if you do a lot of off road riding. Maybe Sidi crossfires will be next. Cheers
For everyday riding and off road do u think corozal has enough protection. I hesitate between corozal and tech7. I laso need waterproff. What do u advice?
@@michelwaknin9893 I think the Corozal boots give a moderately good level of protection. Not as stiff as Tech 7, but still quite solid. They only have 2 buckles, but Tech 7 have 4 buckles. I still wear my Corozal for Adventure riding on my KTM 690. Advantage is they are much more water proof. But the Tech 7 are more robust and better for harder technical riding and I always wear these when riding my Husky 501.
The Forma Adventure boot shouldn't be passed over. Here's why...
I own the BMW Rallye boots (and some others). Definitely top of the line and your feet are likely to survive, even if you don't. They are utterly useless for adventure riding: you can't walk. Paying for gas is a chore. Scouting difficult terrain is nonsense. Getting off to take in views, even a short distance, is passed over. They ruin the adventure in riding.
...back to the Adventure boots. Comfortable, water proof, walk-able, great traction, and suitable levels of safety for adventure riders. They absolutely improve the quality of every adventure ride.
I own both the Adventure and the Terra Evo, great boots for touring and commuting but terrible for offroad use, the toe box flexes too much and you have a limited heal support, the back of the boot is so soft you can crush it with your fingers. Again, great for touring but not what I would use offroad.
@@tacjam1 Terrible? The more compliant boot is better. Too much obsession with stiff boots. FTR, I ride fast over hard terrain.
@@rbrtmllr you can wear what you want, your skill and risk level dictate what you wear, but as far as protection goes, we just have to agree to disagree on the Forma boots. I would never recommend them to an ADV rider that is heading off-road. Sure they're great for the gas station and Starbucks, but that's not what we're talking about here.
I love my Forma low boots,, I wear them most of the time.. For real challenging conditions, the mX boots come out
You've got me second guessing my Forma Adventure boots now
@Dan Manthe the Adventure is a great boot other than the very flexible sole. The Forma Terra Evo is a similar boot, but more rigid in the sole and laterally.
Gaerne SG12….?! Highly outperforms ALL the boots you mentioned here. And my clear choice after Sidi, AS Tec 10 and Fux.
Don't have waterproof boots and don't feel like shelling out 400 to 1000 USD? Try some neoprene fishing socks for wading into water. They won't breathe well but that's the trade off for "waterproofing"
Sidi: "allows flexibility when walking" at the cost of the squeaking driving you bonkers.
Teflon is your friend ;)
@@MarcelBeers WD 40 works for me!
Thank you, Bret. Best boot review I’ve seen.
You DO want that crash protection @ 5:35 especially with Beemers. GS's are quite capable of breaking fibula's in 1/2 w/those gad dank protruding cylinders. Don't ask me how I know.
Hey Bret, I love your videos. Someday I hope to make it to one of your training camps.
I'm a new rider. I live in upstate NY and plan to haul my TW200 to some trails when it gets too cold to hit the roads. I just bought a pair of Sidi Crossfire 3's based on your recommendation.
My concern is that for riding the dirt roads around my house, the boot's rigidity may introduce some risk because I may be slower getting to the shifter &/or rear brake. I'll probably keep the boots for woods riding, but do you think they are appropriate for a new rider to wear on the road? If not, any recommendations? I'm looking at the Klim Outlander GTX Boots.
You’re going to damage your neck with that there Boot-Flex-Head-Test thing Mr Tkacs... 👍
😂
Now you know what the neck brace was for
@@BretTkacs 😂😂 ...safety first.
The Sidi Crossfire looks perfect for me. Unfortunately their website doesn't show any availability in the USA and they will not take new orders from USA.
Edit; excellent presentation, I sub'd.
Thank you for not playing crappy background music while you're talking!
I have learnt it the hard way with several ankle injuries. The tech 7 (without drystar) are the only boots I’m wearing nowadays. They are working surprisingly well in heat and even in rain or puddles. I chose also some water proof socks like the sealskins.
Great boot!
What is wrong with dry star? Too hot in summer?
@@michelwaknin9893 From what I read hot in summer, but also if you ride through water and somehow get water inside, you will have wet feet all day and they are hard to dry...
I do think a regular boot + waterproof sock combo is the smart way to go.
Oh shit, man, I'm telling you, keep your work on, you're good on it ;) I'm watching your videos like crazy and it's 3am now and I must be up at 7am LOL
I didn’t see a big G in that lineup, so for the first time I ignored what you had to say...
You missed the point of the video then...
Bret, how do you feel about the "Adventure Klim GTX"? Have you tried it and your advice. Thank you.
Thank for all the info.... do you tell me about the Alpinestars Toucan.... if it is good for adventure rider...(r1200gs) .... I m not aggressive rider but I spend a lot off time in trail....
Thank you
Thanks for another great video Bret. Your expert opinions and advice is always very much appreciated.
Any chance you could do an updated one of these?
I’ve been enjoying my Revit Expedition boots. But agree that a thinner shin would be nice (not a deal breaker though), and sadly mine have had the odd leak here and there when going through large puddles, etc. I’m considering upgrading to the newer GTX version, but would like to compare to the SIDI, Aplinestars and even the new Klim alternatives.
Thanks again.
Do you have a video anywhere on tire pressure? I run 36/40 on my v strom 1000. I use moto z tires, I saw a video of a guy saying he runs 30 front and back. But I just don't know?? Brett what's your thoughts? Thanks so much for your time and help
First things first: I like your objective and to the point video's! For me the SIDI crossfire proofs to be the best choice. Ride a GSA 1200, apparently to hard because this summer I crash it and dropped down 15m from a roadside cliff. Broke my back on to spots (W4/5), but had no further injuries especially my legs were OK. I noticed the Crossfires took a good beating but are good to go!
Regarding Sidi Adventure (goretex). It's beefier street high boot, I agree. Or it's 'light adventure', like my motorcycle (vstrom 650). Some time ago after my bike landed on my leg, I was super happy that my calf is better protected than, say, Rev'it H2O.
Thanks! Nice review!
I like my Forma All Terrain hinged boots. Very comfortable for all day wear, hiking soles and great motocross protection smashing my feet into rocks and nasty shin level tree branches. SIDI is way too narrow in the toebox for my feet to feel good, otherwise they would be my choice. When I started getting more serious offroad, my first motocross Gaerne hinged boots worked out fine for enduro rides, just no hiking sole. . I need a wide toebox so Gaerne and Forma are always my first choice. Please stay away from those wannabe rugged looking adventure boots which look cool, but don't have motocross type armor...Forma even makes some of these too. Great video. Cheers!
Toucans and Sidi are my boots of choice. Got my first Sidi in 1972! Never had a problem with waterproofed boots with the new ones. They never got wet on the inside! I haven't bought boots in my last 80,000 miles but my concern is about sole replacement!! Some brands/models the soles can be replaced with OEM or similar. Depending on what country you are in! In the USA in particular very few places will replace soles but it takes time, lost of time. There are countries where you will find a cobbler that will work and replace OEM soles with better products! Great video. Cheers
Great review as always. May I know what covers are you using on the fog light if they are oem from bmw ? Any links
Thank you so much for a very informative review! I recently purchased the SIDI X-3, the fit (sz13) is spot on and the build quality looks to be great. Are they stiff?
You bet! But, the protection level is super good and should last me many a mile! In my mind, the Sidi checks most boxes for me!!
I feel like you got it kinda wrong by omitting the SIDI Adventure 2's. You do give up a bit of armor compared to the crossfire but you get waterproof using Gore-Tex. Still very stiff soul with good traction and ankle protection. Bonus they fit people with large calves.
Forma Evo Dry-X for me. Quality construction, protection, and comfort. Style is a bonus.
What do you think of the Klim adventure goretex? Would they be protective enough for a complete dirt noob on a KTM 690 Enduro who wants to do single track and plans on dropping it frequently?
Nice presentation. Wish I'd seen it before buying something I'm still not happy with...
I would add Alpinestars tech 3 for low cost outstanding protection. Day to day riding and adv Ariat Rig Tek or Big Rig. So comfortable and supportive I can stand on the pegs all day. Cheers! You are greatly appreciated!