I know employees have to follow union work rules. But those 2 guys riding the front of the engine aren't any help. Only one got on the ground watching for potential problems. Seems a couple more sets of eyes would be better. But I'm guessing that's not in their job description. 🙄
Great Video!!! I always thought that Behr was serviced by CPKC. I think YJA65 I going to run to Alcivia (formerly Landmark) either today or Friday, because they have loaded cars.
@@spuwho At low speeds, it's about tractive effort and not HP. HP only comes into play at track speeds. At these slow speeds a 1400hp switcher would do just fine if starting TE were close, and on these 4 axle units they generally are. The GP60 can't put its 3800 hp down at speeds below 25ish MPH, transition limits to around 2800 HP (or even lower) to that speed. The GP40-2 similarly will only put out 2300 HP at speeds below around 25mph. This is due to the power of the engine, the 4 axle configuration, and the desire to not encounter wheel slip.
The power is what’s available when the crew goes to work, and why do I know this because I worked for them. When you go on duty, the yardmaster gives you your switch list and the engineer is pointed to the power he’s or her assigned to, Simple as that. And having worked on shit industries track that’s exactly what you do, crawl out of there so you do not get yourself on the ground and screw up the rest of your day.
You can't waste something if its pulling tonnage.. railroading is not some train simulator. we don't get to pick and choose the types of equipment used day to day..
You certainly have the patience to watch this occur. UP has this type of track to deal with in Milwaukee to serve a warehouse and a chemical company. I see Alter got.a 2nd order of new scrap cars and that they got the local hockey team to advertise on them (sic)
All that creaking and groaning sounds like me getting out of bed in the morning! That, and a bag of microwave popcorn cooking off. Mebbe MoW ought to look into a little preventive maintenance? Or is it just cheaper to fix it when it breaks? I'll bet that train crew hates this section of track - you know the bosses will blame them if something hits the rocks. Nice video, interesting RR work. BTW, help us geographic dummies with City and State location, OK? thx.
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@@silicon212 Well then it's a question of --- if the customer does not want to chip in for the track that services THEIR business, then UP can DENY SERVICE.
@@user-mr3ct1dm9p Back in the SP days, I knew many of the guys that would crew the Magma Turn local out of Phoenix to the east. In the early 90s, they would serve customers in a small industrial yard east of Center st at Broadway in Mesa. Much of this track was very old, and in the same condition as what you see here. The conductor of that crew told me that if a car were to go on the ground, the engineer was to run the engine hard and tear out as much of that old track as possible - because this was the only way it would be repaired.
Looks as all the cars are loaded so that's revenue. That's why they still serve them. You would have to did thru layers of politics to find out who is responsible for this track's maintenance
@MidWestRailFan-1z2eq I thought so. I've seen derailments there before they even cross Blackhawk Blvd. I think the CP owns those tracks now. They need to fix that crossing, it's garbage. I work right next to the scrap yard, you wouldn't believe some of the explosions that come out of that place!
Yeah well you could get them to charge down the siding at full noise and save a few hundred dollars in wages...and end up spending thousands on a re-rail job.
Like that local freight action, even in slow motion.👍 Those 2 guys riding the engine are useless. One guy on the ground watching for potential problems. Seems a couple more sets of eyes watching would be nice. But I guess that's not in their union job description.🙄
I'll agree, Trump's approach to the rail sector was referred to as "a dichotomy" of priorities. The TIGER and FAST programs didn't get consistent funding and, more importantly, clear vision and direction. An article commented about "leveraging" the rails private sector to receive funding... collaboration with the system that regulates you is a (metaphorically) marriage of convenience, and corruption vis. "quid pro quo" is most likely how things are being done (my opinion). A clearer, more defined vision needs to happen, but infrastructure ain't sexy, so it often gets ignored until... "Damn! These tracks is outta gauge, why are they conducting business on unsafe tracks?" 💀☕ @@jasminelindros8923
Awesome! I love seeing switching moves and old industrial spurs in use
Glad you liked it! Love your videos by the way, Keep up the good work!
@@MidWestRailFan-1z2eq thanks I like your videos also
Me too! I've always like switching. I've never been a main line man. Happy Railroading!
Loving the creaking and groaning of the wheels on the rails, just like me first thing in the morning.
Yes, and it gets even "better" as you get older!
You two are old 😁
Great catch !!! The curve they'll be getting into to go back to main is even better 🙄 !!!
Love seeing the local work taking place... Union Pacific 1025 is just like our local engines in Chandler AZ. Subbed for future content !!
Thanks!
Those tracks don't look too bad at all...then again I grew up watching Guilford derail every other week.
Thats Crazy!
Great video. That is some rough trackage. Not as bad as the nd&w was but close
Bad track or not, they go on the ground the crew will be blamed. It’s the UP way.
Shocker how big business works 👌👈
I know employees have to follow union work rules. But those 2 guys riding the front of the engine aren't any help. Only one got on the ground watching for potential problems. Seems a couple more sets of eyes would be better. But I'm guessing that's not in their job description. 🙄
@@johnwinter8273 I guess we could get a third guy to straddle the front coupler
Great Video!!! I always thought that Behr was serviced by CPKC. I think YJA65 I going to run to Alcivia (formerly Landmark) either today or Friday, because they have loaded cars.
It’s horrible to see the 3,800 HP of the GP60 wasted on this assignment!
Do you think a 1400hp switcher is going to be able to pull a set of full hoppers with scrap iron?
@@spuwho At low speeds, it's about tractive effort and not HP. HP only comes into play at track speeds. At these slow speeds a 1400hp switcher would do just fine if starting TE were close, and on these 4 axle units they generally are. The GP60 can't put its 3800 hp down at speeds below 25ish MPH, transition limits to around 2800 HP (or even lower) to that speed. The GP40-2 similarly will only put out 2300 HP at speeds below around 25mph. This is due to the power of the engine, the 4 axle configuration, and the desire to not encounter wheel slip.
The power is what’s available when the crew goes to work, and why do I know this because I worked for them. When you go on duty, the yardmaster gives you your switch list and the engineer is pointed to the power he’s or her assigned to, Simple as that.
And having worked on shit industries track that’s exactly what you do, crawl out of there so you do not get yourself on the ground and screw up the rest of your day.
Track rmployee at the crossing. Think they are "walking" over a broken rail. That track isn't that bad compared to others I've been over...
You can't waste something if its pulling tonnage.. railroading is not some train simulator. we don't get to pick and choose the types of equipment used day to day..
Speed Limit: 30 ballast stones per hour...
wow that train sounds exactly like my knees when i walk up stairs😛
Lol
The 1025 did a couplr 90-day cycles on the LOS48 out of Chino, CA to CofI and return when I was Conductor.
You certainly have the patience to watch this occur. UP has this type of track to deal with in Milwaukee to serve a warehouse and a chemical company. I see Alter got.a 2nd order of new scrap cars and that they got the local hockey team to advertise on them (sic)
surprised UP has fixed em up yet - over here they have been "upgrading" and replacing crossing pads like crazy
Speed means nothing. I personally derailed a light engine while going about 3mph. The rail just tipped over.
They need to fix those tracks.. could have gotten the service done in way less time then.
yes
Great Just Creaping Along 😊
It's possible that the industry being served own the tracks and not UP
That's likely to be the case.
I was thinking the same thing.
All that creaking and groaning sounds like me getting out of bed in the morning! That, and a bag of microwave popcorn cooking off. Mebbe MoW ought to look into a little preventive maintenance? Or is it just cheaper to fix it when it breaks? I'll bet that train crew hates this section of track - you know the bosses will blame them if something hits the rocks. Nice video, interesting RR work.
BTW, help us geographic dummies with City and State location, OK? thx.
Time is money
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Nice job👍
Thanks!
Need To Call The MOW Gang
get that track fixed
@@MidWestRailFan-1z2eq So Who Is Responsible For The Maintenance Is It Union Pacific Or The Customer?
@@johnniebellamy5912I Believe Union Pacific is responsible for maintaining that section of track.
@@johnniebellamy5912 Customer
Still has SP whistle...
I'm curious why they put a 6-axle on this🤔
I would think a pair of 4-axle switchers would have been less stressful..
1025 is a GP60, four axle.
All the money that UP makes, and they cant even fix THEIR OWN track????? GEEEZ!!!!
I believe the customer is supposed to have a responsibility for some or all of the upkeep of their siding
It's probable that this trackage belongs to Behr Iron and not UP.
@@silicon212 Well then it's a question of --- if the customer does not want to chip in for the track that services THEIR business, then UP can DENY SERVICE.
@@user-mr3ct1dm9p Also true.
@@user-mr3ct1dm9p Back in the SP days, I knew many of the guys that would crew the Magma Turn local out of Phoenix to the east. In the early 90s, they would serve customers in a small industrial yard east of Center st at Broadway in Mesa. Much of this track was very old, and in the same condition as what you see here. The conductor of that crew told me that if a car were to go on the ground, the engineer was to run the engine hard and tear out as much of that old track as possible - because this was the only way it would be repaired.
Just waiting for a derailment or a whole rail turning sideways by all the moans and groans going on.
Looks as all the cars are loaded so that's revenue. That's why they still serve them. You would have to did thru layers of politics to find out who is responsible for this track's maintenance
For everyone saying how bad the track is ive seen way worse this isn't all that bad for 5mph
except for the fact that it's out of gauge
Os. Vagoes. São. Grandões. Máquina. Tem. Muita. Forças.
Unbelievable.
Yeah
Talk to the owners
Please fix the track, don't need another derailment
I think there working on it, or I hope so because they don't really have a choose.
Is that south Beloit?
Yes
@MidWestRailFan-1z2eq I thought so. I've seen derailments there before they even cross Blackhawk Blvd. I think the CP owns those tracks now. They need to fix that crossing, it's garbage. I work right next to the scrap yard, you wouldn't believe some of the explosions that come out of that place!
The crew is clearly getting paid by the hour
Yeah well you could get them to charge down the siding at full noise and save a few hundred dollars in wages...and end up spending thousands on a re-rail job.
Gauge.
its need some track work
yeah, it dose
Why not just fix. The cost of picking it or replacing
Shawn B
Like that local freight action, even in slow motion.👍
Those 2 guys riding the engine are useless. One guy on the ground watching for potential problems. Seems a couple more sets of eyes watching would be nice. But I guess that's not in their union job description.🙄
why they need 2 people
If the track is so bad , why are they running on it ?
Because Thay have to retrieve the loads, so the company doesn't get overloaded.
BUTTJEG AND JOES BUILD BACK BETTER FILM !
And Republicans proposed EXACTLY how much money to fix this kind of problem? Was their proposal a number greater than ZERO?
I'll agree, Trump's approach to the rail sector was referred to as "a dichotomy" of priorities. The TIGER and FAST programs didn't get consistent funding and, more importantly, clear vision and direction.
An article commented about "leveraging" the rails private sector to receive funding... collaboration with the system that regulates you is a (metaphorically) marriage of convenience, and corruption vis. "quid pro quo" is most likely how things are being done (my opinion).
A clearer, more defined vision needs to happen, but infrastructure ain't sexy, so it often gets ignored until... "Damn! These tracks is outta gauge, why are they conducting business on unsafe tracks?"
💀☕
@@jasminelindros8923
Railroads are private property and are maintained however the owner wants to maintain them.
Ignorance is a helluva drug
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