MTA GLOBAL BUS SEARCH: 1981 NYC Test of French Renault PR100 Bus [History of Buses]
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- Note: Many of the images in this video are from: www.nycsubway.org/wiki/Bus_Ph...
From the mid 1970s to the early 1980s, the MTA went on a global search to find the perfect bus. One of the buses tested was the French Renault PR100.
Tested on the M4 and M100 routes, the bus was on loan to the NYCTA for one year.
Passenger reaction was mixed. Drivers seemed to like them.
In this video, we review an article from the New York Times of 1981 that speaks of the debut of the French buses.
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Wow. Pretty interesting how the MTA experimented and tested the Renault bus in the streets of Manhattan. MTA fleet were mostly GM at the time. Today's fleet is no longer have the GM buses with electric and other alternative fuel buses running in NYC.
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Your series is very educational and at times an eye opener. If you keep putting out more bus stuff I will certainly subscribe.
Sydney had two demonstrators it kept for a number of years but with a different body built locally over the framework. They had a small group of exclusive drivers to drive them as the controls were so different to the rest of the fleet. They were a very quiet bus.
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@@JeffreyOrnstein OK subbed now.
It is basically Berliet PR100, before it merged with Renault. It was one of basic buses in Poland made under license as Jelcz PR110
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They had a licence built Leyland 0.680 engine. The same as in the Leyland Atlantean deckers in NY.
I rode it on the M104 up Broadway. It was like riding on a bucky bronco. It felt like a cheap school bus. It is amazing that the PR-100 is one of the most popular buses in the world. The isea of an upper level in the rear is now used in all low floor buses. I ironic.
Thank you for watching and for your comment, Glenn! That's interesting to hear. I'm working on a video about the Japanese Hino buses...I hear they were just as bad, or even worse!
I find that hard to believe. So your American equipment was state of the art in comparison back then?
Certainly not these days.
@@jamesfrench7299 They may have simply decided that American Cities did not need the handling as much because most city streets are fairly street owing to the gridiron plans found in many US cities, whereas many of the city streets where very, very rough, especially in post-Bankruptcy NYC. The Leyland Atlatean they tested was literally shaken to pieces despite holding up in London.
I worked on Renault PR100.2 rigid and artic buses in Canberra, Australia for a few years, the independent front suspension made them a very comfortable ride indeed, but with a 3 speed transmission and quite a tall diff ratio meant they were often sluggish. Canberra and Perth were two Autralian cities that ran large fleets of Renault buses for many years.
Thank you for watching and for your very interesting comment about your experience with these types of buses in Australia
We ended up with a few of the ex-Canberra units in Perth. I got my start on those and I still rate them very highly.
ACTION/Transport Canberra still have 13 of them in service
@@DavoDentetsudoes perth still have those 40+ year volvo b58 artic still around from Adelaide in charter services they were great buses
Canberra still have them but they are being withdrawn in favour of newer electric buses
I remember seeing the Hungarian IKARUS accordion buses in Ottawa sometime in the mid-90s.
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Please make a video about the Japanese Hino buses that the MTA bought while searching the world for the perfect bus.
Thank you for watching and for your comment! You're in luck because I am working on that (Hino test buses) for my next video! Stay tuned!!!
@@JeffreyOrnsteinI'm biased because i prefer Japanese bus brands, even Korean bus brands, over North American and European brands because I'm from the Philippines.
If you look closely, one of them has a New York transporter plate rather than a New York City official Plate. That means it was probably used in evaluation and perhaps not counted as an asset. If it were an asset, then it would have an official New York City plate in most cases.
Thank you for watching and for your intriguing comment! Very interesting information...I did not know that!
@@JeffreyOrnstein I'm pretty sure that if they planned to make it an asset, it would have had NYC official plates. Today's MTA buses (and other equipment) have NYC Transit/Official state plates.
Funny seen these as left hand drive its exactly the same as a transperth renault pr 100 but without its evaporative cooler even the mta livery similar to transperth i wonder if the mta had the musical zf or voith wow there is even a Action canberra bus in the video
Thank you for watching and for your interesting comment about the the Transperth PR100! Not sure what engine the NYC demo had!
Most likely had a Voith DIWA transmission but possibly Alison in this case. Likely had a Renault turbocharged engine they recieved in the 80s. I did read the Berliet version came with a Perkins V8 IIRC.
Hello. Until 1978, Berliet PR100 was equipped with 2 V8 engines, either smooth Berliet V800 (170 hp) or noisy Perkins V8-510 (178 hp).
The Berliet - Renault PR100 MI from 1978 to 1983 was equipped with an efficient and smooth 6 cylinders in line engine MIP 06.20.30 (185 hp) or turbocharged MIPS 06.20.30 (200 hp).
About gearboxes, a manual-electric Pont-à-Mousson HVD S211ME60 (4 speed) equipped the PR100 and PR100 MI, or optional automatic Voith D851-2 (3 speed), and later automatic ZF 4HP500.
Another automatic gearbox monitored by microprocessor (generated a lot of mechanical problems) was also available, the French Pont à Mousson 412C70.
Best regards and greetings from France ! 🇫🇷🤝🇺🇸
I can't help but to notice that "Renault" was not pronounced correctly a single time.
Thanks for watching - well, I'm saying it with a Brooklyn accent, LOL.
@@JeffreyOrnstein It wasn't the accent throwing me, it was pronouncing the silent "lt".
I say Renno.
Designline Ecosaver in 1980
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2:15 if there were German Democratic Republic officials in New York City they would call this Ikarus 280 because they are the numerous buses in the former German Democratic Republic. Were there also attempts by the MTA in the 1980s to buy buses from the People's Republic of Hungary or German Democratic Republic. Since most of them tend to be countries that are Allied of the United States. You might also need to cover 1992 Volvo B58 these were from Brazil
Thank you for watching and for your comment! There was a Romanian bus that was tested in NY, and there will be a video on that soon.
Find your videos about transit system very interesting.
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Google Ikarus-Zemun IK110. Looks almost the same.
Thank you for watching and for your interesting comment! You're right...I just looked it up and it definitely resembles the Renault bus!!
@@JeffreyOrnstein otherwise, this type of bus, mostly Ikarus 110, but also Renault which came to Yugoslavia in form of licence built Polish version called Jelcz (Yugoslavia gave Poland Zastava cars and Goša railcars in exchange), but both Ikarus IK110 and Jelcz are essentially Renault buses...
They have a funny story behind them here. Namely, Belgrade Science and Tech museum has a yard in the back where old buses, trucks and trolleybus are "preserved" to the best of abilities of Museum's humble budget. Entry to that back yard is free. 100 meters from there, Belgrade transgender support group meetings are held ever since 2006. Many trans people simply went there to the back yard to have photo sessions, and a Renault inspired Ikarus IK110 became known as "hormone pills box on wheels" due to the shape with those small angular front windows and sort of symmetrical little cutoffs on the rear of the bodywork- former Yugoslavian, now Serbian pharmaceutical company Galenika used to, from 1989 to 2013, make hormones for trans people, coincidentally also taking the recipe from French,and those came in weird boxes that had slightly cut off corners, and blue and yellow lines on the boxes, while blue and yellow were Belgrade public transit livery colours for almost 20 years. Any old bus with big side windows on the front, that makes bodywork slightly octagonal is now referred to as "hormone pills box on wheels"....
I miss the good ol' 80's busses.
Thanks for watching...me too!!
I actually rode this bus back in 1982 when it was being tested out in Westchester County (now the Bee-Line). It was being used on Route 6. I thought that it was better than the typical American bus at the time. Too bad that it didn't go over since it was of a more advanced design.
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