@@netto6681 I’d have to say to that yikes. When you have like a 50% survival rate darn it and that was the role I wouldn’t wanted to be a woman back then for sure.
Many women were likely very malnourished. That is when they give birth to underweight malnourished children, that do look like little adults. Look up pictures or videos on malnourished newborns. Too week to even cry. They just sleep, or just lay there. It takes a very dedicated mother to help them thrive.
I've read somewhere that, procreation being the main point of a marriage, couples were expected to conceive _before_ they were allowed to marry, to see if they could. It may have been rare and only practiced among the common folk in the country, though.
Possibly 🤔 I know a lot of my women ancestors were pregnant before getting married based on their marriage date and the date their baby was born (not sure if it's because of that, it was a rushed/forced marriage because they got pregnant out of wedlock, our ancestors weren't as sexually repressed as a lot of people think, or something else though) and another really common thing within my family tree was sadly of course child brides (lost count how many of my women ancestors were married off when they were between 11 and 15 to a much older adult man and shortly after getting married had a child while they were still children themselves) history is sad 😕
Goodness, gracious, we sure should be grateful my great great grandmothers still practiced many of these things I would like him to say something on the heated mustard, honey plasters. That was brutal.
Agree, but modern is a relative term. Medicine is still in its infancy, especially regarding mental health. In a few hundred years, people will look back on us in disbelief. I wish I got to live long enough to see a Dyson sphere or something similar, at least a category higher in civilisation. Still grateful for the limited medicines and technologies we have though.
It is crazy. Might not have seen another option. It was a very different environment back then. No system to fall back on. Where was a loving grandmother, when you needed one ...
Many had no other choice And they were quite young mothers so they had little sense I think the community WAS less involved becuz of the great number of babies about. Otherwise they would have had a system in place to help mothers during their daily tasks, beyond a grandma. Grandmas were still very busy with their own families. If u had a baby at 14 or 15 even ur 2nd daughter having a baby would mean u were just early 30s! Very fertile still.
@@angelathorpe8512no one died of old age at 37. Human lifespans were identical back then to how they are now. The only difference is that we can live our full natural lifespans while people back then often died younger of disease, malnutrition, war or just how hard that life was on the body
As a uncle who baby-sat many times I have seen that children are alarmingly trying to kill themselves all the time! They only reach an almost ok level of self preservation about 6yo... just thinking about raising kids before modern medicine gives me anxiety
I think at the time babies were considered a woman thing and the father doesn't get involved until the child is a bit older. So they didn't properly know what a baby's body looked like. Proper human proportions wouldn't be known until like centuries later.
I wish modern day people would stop thinking that our ancestors didn't have any emotions or at least not as much as us and realize that people have always been the same (felt heartbreak, sadness, happiness, love, had likes, dislikes, etc) the only thing that changes is our style, societal norms, laws, advancements, and time 🤷🏻♀️ Sure they definitely experienced loss more then modern people and were more in tune with and accepting of death but just because of that doesn't mean they barely if at all experienced the feelings that go along with it and no matter how many times you experience loss it's still loss and still hurts (i've lost a lot of loved ones and I can promise you it doesn't do a damn thing to lessen my pain if I lose again 😕). You can go back even way further in time (Rome, Ancient Egypt, etc) and see these emotions in people (read a letter the other day from a Roman Solider who was upset that his family wasn't writing to him while he was away, read and saw so many sweet and heartbreaking full of love grave epitaphs Romans made for their beloved animals who passed away showing that they felt the same way we do about our furbabies, they found the remains of two Chinese people who were killed in some mudslide 4000 years ago one was a child and one was an adult/teenager and the older one was trying to protect the kid, they found the remains of parents and their children together and the parents were holding them and/or trying to protect them from the disaster at Pompeii, they found the remains of a Roman mother and her son buried together her son sadly passed away first at a young age and the mother had a ring made of her son's image it was actually found on her finger, i've read poems that came from Ancient Egyptians talking about love loss happiness life all of which still resonates today, on a lighter note they found graffiti from Romans and the jokes they told are still funny one's even about two guys who were good friends and wanted history to remember their friendship basically they're things you'd still see people today scribbling on places, etc). People are people ❤️ Edit: You can even see those emotions in ancient animals- there's been fossils found of dinosaurs sitting on and trying to protect their eggs from the disaster that killed them. Feelings are universal ☺️
A big part of the problem with these ignorant takes on history derive from the fact that the only records we have of day-to-day life -- WRITTEN records, in other words -- derive only from the aristocracy. The VAST majority of people did NOT live like this, and their survival rates were much greater than the "privileged" classes' records would indicate. If I were a child-bearing-age woman in the Middle Ages, I would MUCH prefer to be a serf than nobility.
Even surviving before 1st World World was difficult... My great great grandmother gave birth to 16 healthy babies, just 3 survived to adulthood... 2 girls, 1 boy... Boy was killed as 19 years old during war...
My great great grandparents lost their first six children to disease during the Civil War in St. Louis, Missouri. The six little stones are still in the cemetery today. My great grandfather was the 7th child and lived to adulthood.
Swaddling the baby (closely not tightly) is believed to soothe the baby by reminding them of the closeness of the mother's womb. I swaddled my baby, it's not as weird as it looks in those paintings.😊
Tons of babies are swaddled now, for sleeping or comfort. The difference is, now it isn't entirely an around-the-clock thing like it was then. And we swaddle now with just one big swaddling blanket, not lots of cloth strips.
I am so, so grateful for modern medicine and vaccines that allow the vast majority of modern babies to survive and thrive. My son is currently sick and I was just thinking about how a simple sinus infection or case of strep would’ve killed him back then, when today you simply take a few pills and move on. We are so privileged to have the medical care and resources we have. So many people in the world still have to bury their babies because a lack of basic health care and vaccines.
Actually there were very advanced systems of medicine in certain countries/cultures, such as Ayurvedic medicine in India, Tibetan medicine in the Himalayan regions, Chinese medicine, and so forth.
@@olmostgudinaf8100Employers allows employees to invest a portion of their paycheck tax-deferred for retirement. Many employers match your contribution. Also its more-so of an anglo-sphere thing than American. Canada, Australia, and the UK have something similar.
I wish I could remember the name of it but making babies look old was actually intentional don't remember why (pretty sure this channel made a video talking about it) 🤔
@@grannyannie2948I saw a German movie called „Die Hebamme“ (the midwife) and it was a strict rule from the Catholic Church to baptize the children inside the women during a difficult labor with a syringe of holy water. 😅 Some of the women died from the infection, because the water wasn’t fresh.
@@JasminMernica That sounds horrendous. I don't understand the theology behind it either as a baby had to be birthed and breathe to be baptized, was my understanding. Another horrible rabbit hole is the choices sometimes made between the life of the mother or the child during the Middle Ages.
@@grannyannie2948The mindset of the people back then was, if the baby isn’t baptized and passes away, it will go to hell. They used this method, if it was a breach birth. It wasn’t always possible to get the baby out alive or (like in the movie) turn it into the right direction. The movie was placed in the Bavarian province during 1860, but the procedure from the midwife was older than that. It was a reminder for me, that not everything was good back then and the church or state shouldn’t mingle with women’s rights to her body.
@JasminMernica I'm Australian and whilst I have been reading mediaeval history, since I was a child. I can't claim I know about a great deal about practices in Germany in 1860. Neither do I know the accuracy of a movie I've never seen. For a start, from a mediaeval theological perspective a stillborn baby, or indeed any unbaptised baby, does not go to hell. They go to purgatory. The length of time they spend in purgatory depends on the amount of prayers they receive. For example wealthy parents might pay an entire monestry to pray for decades. This is ultimately the cause of the reformation. You need to be very careful thinking modern historical drama is accurate. I find it is not. Instead it pushes political agendas, ussually feminism or multiculturalism or both. I suspect this is an example of the former. What the movie is saying about women's autonomy is probably unrealistic, Christian western women have always had rights, it's just that today they've gone too far.
I just wanted to thank you……until I found your channel I was never interested in medieval history, however the way you put across the facts has captivated me!! So 🙏 thank you.
The fact that babies wore hats called "bigguns" on their large heads is hilarious. Yes, I'm sure I misspelled the word, but it's just funny like that!😂😂😂
One story that sticks in my mind is the child of Jeanne d’Albret, Queen of Navarre The child died of its injuries after its nurse threw him out of window for her boyfriend to catch. He failed to do so. 😮
0:50 there where also many days on which sex was not allowed. However, scientists calculated that with the amount of people alive back then, the amount of child mortality's, miscarige's, etc the human race would already have gone extinct. So we know for a fact that people ignored these commandments
if you think about it it’s kind of sweet that the midwives told the parents that the baby had one breath so at least they could live peacefully knowing that it had a proper burial and baptism (even if it wasent true and The baby never had life)
Modern swaddling is done a lot looser than it was back then. Back then it was basically like putting a corset on the poor little thing, while now it’s more like wrapping them up
Please remember that just because nobels and royals did something doesnt mean commoners did. They absolutely ignored the rules of sex just as people did in the 20s 50s 60s and today. Societal norms doesnt mean it's what happened behind closed doors.
Well done. You’d be surprised how many of these practices still survive today. I had great great grandmothers who also had many of these beliefs. I will very much look forward to any other content that you put out upon the subject.
Enid, Oklahoma, 11 months old: My weird 40-45 year-old babysitter gave me the measles. Other north of 40: Bathed in ice was to cool down my 105° fever.
I don't understand and will never understand why people speak the way they do about the precious future of the human race as if they weren't once a baby themselves. Makes no sense.
I’ve had four babies but only managed to maintain a milk supply with my eldest for about 10 weeks max. The rest of the time I’ve had to use formula. I have pals who’ve breastfed their baby up to almost year. I know without a shadow of a doubt I’d have no surviving babies if I lived in medieval times. They’d have been called failure to thrive probably.
Our modern culture so often takes human life for granted. Thousands of perfectly healthy babies are killed via abortion every day in the US. Being conceived at all, let alone healthy, should always be treated as a miracle. We are lucky to be here!
@the0nlytrueprophet942 no need to be obsessed with molecular biology in order for a mother to feel her son or daughter move around inside her womb. It's amazing how a "collection of cells" wiggles, kicks, hiccups, sucks on their thumb, listens to music, responds to touch... But I realize you're just being obtuse 🥱
Medieval painting of babies and animals (especially dogs) are hilarious and creepy. Like, who was the dude that painted these just for the commissioner to be all, “Tis spot on! Thyne tears shall floweth, and thou shalt always cherish thee for eons!” ‘shows a mutated painting of a monster bred with a cat.’
Real story, it’s 1930s Russia, very deep country side where my grandpas family lived. Super traditional. They hunted on horses. So their neighbour had a 3 month old son. They (a man and his wife) left the boy alone to go get water from a nearby well. Came back and the boy was just gone, however, their domestic boar (huge one) was standing in the room. The scariest story I have ever herd…my grandpas grandma told him this story, he couldn’t sleep for months. She said there was not even a drop of blood. As a mother now this makes me shiver…
They also used to do surgeries on babies without any anaesthetic , as they thought Babies felt no pain. It wasn't till sickeningly Recently that they realize babies do feel pain.
Curious! Today, the most dangerous time are not the first few years, but begins when children are young enough to receive TikTok challenges on their phones. 🤔
When in Malawi I saw a swaddled baby in a tree. If you go to third world countries a lot of these things are still practiced. Sad too, almost everyone my age came from a large family with one or more deceased siblings.
She was also absolutely miserable for pretty much her entire life and is remembered as a ruthless and cruel tyrant. She was responsible for the deaths of up to 30,000 innocent people thanks to the St Bartholomew’s Massacre she orchestrated
The reason their was `social pressure` for women to breastfeed was so that babies wouldn`t die. They didn`t have baby formula and anti-biotics back then.
Those baby accidents deaths were just heartbreaking 😢 the history of swaddling was interesting. My youngest granddaughter was born a month ago her mom can swaddle like a champion...me on the other hand can't quite get the hang of it 😒 but I'll keep trying.
My daughter (7months) liked swaddling at the beginning. She was born prematurely with 34 weeks and slept only swaddled. When she was about 6 weeks old, she wiggled herself out 😂 We still do this in Switzerland and Germany.
I love when people these days are against certain medical practises or even just basic infant care advice and use the excuse "they didn't have this hundreds of years ago". Do they not realise it was a miracle if any children actually survived.
I have 3 boys the youngest which is 3 gives me a heart attack on a daily basis. This isn’t my first rodeo but this little guy is a rare breed totally different from his brothers 😥
We have a relative, who lived into 100s, he had a number of wives, all died in childbirth or it was either his 13th or 14th wife they gave birth to his possibly last child he was something like 93, 94, or possibly 95. We do not know for sure because only the boy children were recorded when they reached. I believe it was 5 or 7 years of age. Girls were not recorded. But we know that he had a number of girl children that survived to adulthood. I have forgotten how many that were known because her names were referenced. I no longer remember how many boys he had that reached the age to be recorded. But it was considerable number. of which only four man to live to adulthood and have their children recorded. We less than a quarter of his children’s survived because there was a plague at the time he lived. Which plague I don’t remember. All of these things are in a box, in storage. My brother was historian of our family, when he died, my sister was supposed to assemble it. She has not had time. There was some 14 boxes, 18"x12"x12", filled with documentation, notebooks, and folders. I believe it was the 11th century that this Swedish gentlemen had lived. The Black Death, between 1/3 and up to 2/3 in different areas. This is why we speculate that the four sons am I believe there was three daughters because they were mentioned in writing we are assuming survived to adulthood. By the numbers, it makes perfect sense although disease was not the only reason children and people died.
Human babies and cat babies have a lot in common. It's shocking that we've made it this far as a species by typically only producing one offspring at a time.
In addition to accidents - infectious diseases were the biggest killer of infants and young children. Because hygiene was impossible to achieve in poverty and not a single vaccine existed as well as no effective treatments such as antibiotics existed. Also it wasn't known how or why infections spreads so little could've been done to avoid them.
Who else finds the Medieval depictions of babies hilarious?
Kinda creepy...
I mean they do actually kind of look like miniature old men particularly in the beginning
Every single time. Without fail. 😂
They either look like little old men or miniature burly men
@@katofalltrades Little Gandhis or Churchills
It’s no joke coming out of the womb as a mini middle-aged man.
It's all the ale and or wine the mothers drank.
@@netto6681 I’d have to say to that yikes. When you have like a 50% survival rate darn it and that was the role I wouldn’t wanted to be a woman back then for sure.
@@keepgoing7533 yes 👍
Many women were likely very malnourished. That is when they give birth to underweight malnourished children, that do look like little adults. Look up pictures or videos on malnourished newborns. Too week to even cry. They just sleep, or just lay there. It takes a very dedicated mother to help them thrive.
YES 😂😂
Good video i have a 10 month old who im gonna show this to so he knows how well he has it haha
🤣🤣
He should be grateful! 😂
@@EL-ISS thats what I'm sayin
😂😂😂
😂
It was so difficult to raise a baby in that environment. It is understandable how some women would go mad with grief
I've read somewhere that, procreation being the main point of a marriage, couples were expected to conceive _before_ they were allowed to marry, to see if they could.
It may have been rare and only practiced among the common folk in the country, though.
Possibly 🤔 I know a lot of my women ancestors were pregnant before getting married based on their marriage date and the date their baby was born (not sure if it's because of that, it was a rushed/forced marriage because they got pregnant out of wedlock, our ancestors weren't as sexually repressed as a lot of people think, or something else though) and another really common thing within my family tree was sadly of course child brides (lost count how many of my women ancestors were married off when they were between 11 and 15 to a much older adult man and shortly after getting married had a child while they were still children themselves) history is sad 😕
Yes ma’am, can you imagine the grief of those women went through? They love each child like every mother does.
Life was hard for everyone back then, women were not special in that regard.
@@canadachandler7521 Did they say only women had it hard because of being special in this regard? No, no they didn’t.
I'm so grateful that I was born in the modern era
Goodness, gracious, we sure should be grateful my great great grandmothers still practiced many of these things I would like him to say something on the heated mustard, honey plasters. That was brutal.
Reincarnation is real
@@Ad-zk8nz cite evidence of your claim
Agree, but modern is a relative term. Medicine is still in its infancy, especially regarding mental health. In a few hundred years, people will look back on us in disbelief. I wish I got to live long enough to see a Dyson sphere or something similar, at least a category higher in civilisation. Still grateful for the limited medicines and technologies we have though.
Entrusting an infant to a THREE YEAR OLD is crazy
It is crazy. Might not have seen another option.
It was a very different environment back then.
No system to fall back on.
Where was a loving grandmother, when you needed one ...
Many had no other choice
And they were quite young mothers so they had little sense
I think the community WAS less involved becuz of the great number of babies about. Otherwise they would have had a system in place to help mothers during their daily tasks, beyond a grandma. Grandmas were still very busy with their own families. If u had a baby at 14 or 15 even ur 2nd daughter having a baby would mean u were just early 30s! Very fertile still.
Since ppl lived about 37 years, three was probably a lot more reliable than our little knuckle heads 😅
@@angelathorpe8512no, 3 year old were still 3 year olds. And a low life expectancy didn’t mean people were middle aged at 20 or adults at 10.
@@angelathorpe8512no one died of old age at 37. Human lifespans were identical back then to how they are now. The only difference is that we can live our full natural lifespans while people back then often died younger of disease, malnutrition, war or just how hard that life was on the body
As a uncle who baby-sat many times I have seen that children are alarmingly trying to kill themselves all the time! They only reach an almost ok level of self preservation about 6yo... just thinking about raising kids before modern medicine gives me anxiety
😂 either that or they start fires 🔥 when you’re not looking.
Well, that's why the medievals needed more than 2 or 3 babies...
Yeah they put everything in their mouths. 😂😭
Two more years to go
A lot died you had to have a litter
Medieval baby paintings are ALWAYS HILARIOUS
3:40 is extra nasty like wtf is that? Lol
@luigi55125 who from Whoville looking ahhh
You should see the cat
I think at the time babies were considered a woman thing and the father doesn't get involved until the child is a bit older. So they didn't properly know what a baby's body looked like. Proper human proportions wouldn't be known until like centuries later.
😂😂😂😂
It's amazing to me that everything through history and all the Death that we're here by a miracle
Yes we're all here today because our ancestors made it through all the catastrophes that were thrown at them
These rules only applied to small populations. The rest of the world in Africa Asia and Polynesia did not confirm to this
It’s crazy to think that our ancestors were the lucky ones out of humanity. How many times our family line could’ve ended.
@Xixbalba I know each one of us on this planet are only here because of them > it's incredible 💓
I'm here watching this on a train, it is bizzare
I wish modern day people would stop thinking that our ancestors didn't have any emotions or at least not as much as us and realize that people have always been the same (felt heartbreak, sadness, happiness, love, had likes, dislikes, etc) the only thing that changes is our style, societal norms, laws, advancements, and time 🤷🏻♀️ Sure they definitely experienced loss more then modern people and were more in tune with and accepting of death but just because of that doesn't mean they barely if at all experienced the feelings that go along with it and no matter how many times you experience loss it's still loss and still hurts (i've lost a lot of loved ones and I can promise you it doesn't do a damn thing to lessen my pain if I lose again 😕). You can go back even way further in time (Rome, Ancient Egypt, etc) and see these emotions in people (read a letter the other day from a Roman Solider who was upset that his family wasn't writing to him while he was away, read and saw so many sweet and heartbreaking full of love grave epitaphs Romans made for their beloved animals who passed away showing that they felt the same way we do about our furbabies, they found the remains of two Chinese people who were killed in some mudslide 4000 years ago one was a child and one was an adult/teenager and the older one was trying to protect the kid, they found the remains of parents and their children together and the parents were holding them and/or trying to protect them from the disaster at Pompeii, they found the remains of a Roman mother and her son buried together her son sadly passed away first at a young age and the mother had a ring made of her son's image it was actually found on her finger, i've read poems that came from Ancient Egyptians talking about love loss happiness life all of which still resonates today, on a lighter note they found graffiti from Romans and the jokes they told are still funny one's even about two guys who were good friends and wanted history
to remember their friendship basically they're things you'd still see people today scribbling on places, etc).
People are people ❤️
Edit: You can even see those emotions in ancient animals- there's been fossils found of dinosaurs sitting on and trying to protect their eggs from the disaster that killed them. Feelings are universal ☺️
@@iTsEfFiNsTePhh Well said
A big part of the problem with these ignorant takes on history derive from the fact that the only records we have of day-to-day life -- WRITTEN records, in other words -- derive only from the aristocracy. The VAST majority of people did NOT live like this, and their survival rates were much greater than the "privileged" classes' records would indicate. If I were a child-bearing-age woman in the Middle Ages, I would MUCH prefer to be a serf than nobility.
Absolutely 💯 %
Wa
Even surviving before 1st World World was difficult... My great great grandmother gave birth to 16 healthy babies, just 3 survived to adulthood... 2 girls, 1 boy... Boy was killed as 19 years old during war...
My great great grandparents lost their first six children to disease during the Civil War in St. Louis, Missouri. The six little stones are still in the cemetery today. My great grandfather was the 7th child and lived to adulthood.
I had an ancestor in the early 1800s who had 16 kids and 4 wives, and he outlived all but 3 of his kids and all his wives
Swaddling the baby (closely not tightly) is believed to soothe the baby by reminding them of the closeness of the mother's womb. I swaddled my baby, it's not as weird as it looks in those paintings.😊
I never swaddled any of mine, I wanted them to be able to move. Just warm clothes, according to your weather.
I was swaddled. Also was taught to swaddling in CNA class.
Years ago I read a book about the former Soviet Union. It was a surprise to me to learn that many babies were swaddled back then.
Tons of babies are swaddled now, for sleeping or comfort. The difference is, now it isn't entirely an around-the-clock thing like it was then. And we swaddle now with just one big swaddling blanket, not lots of cloth strips.
@@franceskronenwett3539the baby was swaddled only for nap and feeding time.
I am so, so grateful for modern medicine and vaccines that allow the vast majority of modern babies to survive and thrive. My son is currently sick and I was just thinking about how a simple sinus infection or case of strep would’ve killed him back then, when today you simply take a few pills and move on. We are so privileged to have the medical care and resources we have. So many people in the world still have to bury their babies because a lack of basic health care and vaccines.
Actually there were very advanced systems of medicine in certain countries/cultures, such as Ayurvedic medicine in India, Tibetan medicine in the Himalayan regions, Chinese medicine, and so forth.
Same. I’m pregnant right now and holy cow am I grateful for modern medicine
Fr, very grateful, but heartbreaking for those who still lack in our modern world
Try talking to large communities of people who drink raw milk, and you'll start to see the layers of lies chipping away.
Nothing to do with vaccines, modern day sanitation and plumbing are the reasons. 🙄
... not dying before baptism was always a good idea.... 😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂
we are all here because our ancestors were probably the only surviving child out of 16 children
I am from strong stock to be fair
Its a miracle we are all here thanks to the lucky ones
My people are from medieval Africa. Im sure it was different.
@@imani6547we’ll probably never as the history is either stolen or eradicated
Idk about we all
Yeah my ancestors weren't white soooooo...
@spookydeadite You never know dude. It just takes one . lol
Some of these babies look like they might have whatever the medieval equivalent of a 401k is.
Some of us have no idea what the modern version of 401k is. Something American?
@@olmostgudinaf8100Employers allows employees to invest a portion of their paycheck tax-deferred for retirement. Many employers match your contribution. Also its more-so of an anglo-sphere thing than American. Canada, Australia, and the UK have something similar.
I wish I could remember the name of it but making babies look old was actually intentional don't remember why (pretty sure this channel made a video talking about it) 🤔
@iTsEfFiNsTePhh very underweight malnourished babies look like ancient very old folks, until they actually gain normal weight, and baby fat.
@@olmostgudinaf8100it’s a savings account where your employer matches your deposits (up to a certain amount)
2:41 cant tell if they are 8 months or 48 years old, never seen this duality 😂
tough times in those days 🤭
Yes, life expectancy went up dramatically if you survived childhood, unless you were a women because pregnancy could also be a death sentence.
Not so much pregnancy as infection after birth.
@@grannyannie2948I saw a German movie called „Die Hebamme“ (the midwife) and it was a strict rule from the Catholic Church to baptize the children inside the women during a difficult labor with a syringe of holy water. 😅 Some of the women died from the infection, because the water wasn’t fresh.
@@JasminMernica That sounds horrendous. I don't understand the theology behind it either as a baby had to be birthed and breathe to be baptized, was my understanding. Another horrible rabbit hole is the choices sometimes made between the life of the mother or the child during the Middle Ages.
@@grannyannie2948The mindset of the people back then was, if the baby isn’t baptized and passes away, it will go to hell. They used this method, if it was a breach birth. It wasn’t always possible to get the baby out alive or (like in the movie) turn it into the right direction. The movie was placed in the Bavarian province during 1860, but the procedure from the midwife was older than that. It was a reminder for me, that not everything was good back then and the church or state shouldn’t mingle with women’s rights to her body.
@JasminMernica I'm Australian and whilst I have been reading mediaeval history, since I was a child. I can't claim I know about a great deal about practices in Germany in 1860. Neither do I know the accuracy of a movie I've never seen.
For a start, from a mediaeval theological perspective a stillborn baby, or indeed any unbaptised baby, does not go to hell. They go to purgatory. The length of time they spend in purgatory depends on the amount of prayers they receive. For example wealthy parents might pay an entire monestry to pray for decades. This is ultimately the cause of the reformation.
You need to be very careful thinking modern historical drama is accurate. I find it is not. Instead it pushes political agendas, ussually feminism or multiculturalism or both. I suspect this is an example of the former. What the movie is saying about women's autonomy is probably unrealistic, Christian western women have always had rights, it's just that today they've gone too far.
Considering that all my ancestors were peasants, I'm kind of lucky to be here. What were chances that my ancestors could survive till parenting age
I had spinal meningitis when I was 2 years old in the 60s, and only antibiotics saved my life. I would have had no chance back in medieval times
I962 here; I was 5.
@@vickydelawter5317 born in 1964 myself, and only a new antibiotic called tetracycline saved my life in 1967
I just wanted to thank you……until I found your channel I was never interested in medieval history, however the way you put across the facts has captivated me!! So 🙏 thank you.
The segment about the widespread irresponsibly of leaving children with other kids, and or preteens still even applies to today though.
We are all descended from babies who lives through this. Crazy.
The fact that babies wore hats called "bigguns" on their large heads is hilarious. Yes, I'm sure I misspelled the word, but it's just funny like that!😂😂😂
It’s funny to me too because that’s how my son said ‘big one’ until he was 4 😂
"Gaga-eth... Googoo-eth?"
😂😂😂
Wow LOL
Lmao
One story that sticks in my mind is the child of Jeanne d’Albret, Queen of Navarre
The child died of its injuries after its nurse threw him out of window for her boyfriend to catch. He failed to do so. 😮
😮
Nooooo :(
I'm mildly curious about what happened to the nurse after this misdeed... But also very much don't want to know.
I'm not able to find anything about this. curious though!
@@sararuch5812 I read it in the Jean Plaidy (Eleanor Hibbert) trilogy The Italian Woman. But i have read about it elsewhere too.
Every other mother on earth: wears baby on back
European medieval mothers: hangs babies from trees
Pretty weird, right. Definitely not warm.
Many Native American mothers used cradle boards where they secured their infants and hung boards from tree branches
I heard native americans did that, too. I mean, why not?
0:50 there where also many days on which sex was not allowed. However, scientists calculated that with the amount of people alive back then, the amount of child mortality's, miscarige's, etc the human race would already have gone extinct. So we know for a fact that people ignored these commandments
I cried so much watching this, listening to how all those babies died was heartbreaking
I thought the pig one was worst 😢
Grandparents are world's earliest and most reliable daycare. Many sad endings could have been avoided, if grandma had been there with the little ones.
if you think about it it’s kind of sweet that the midwives told the parents that the baby had one breath so at least they could live peacefully knowing that it had a proper burial and baptism (even if it wasent true and The baby never had life)
Baby was alive (in the womb).
You can feel the movement, it reacts... Full of life.
And suddenly... Death.
Babies are still swaddled today. This is not a technique limited to the Middle Ages
I've read it's recommended. Plenty of pics of happily-swaddled infants!
@@RG_SRQ For sure. My grandkids and my nephews and nieces were all swaddled when babies.
Modern swaddling is done a lot looser than it was back then. Back then it was basically like putting a corset on the poor little thing, while now it’s more like wrapping them up
yeah but we don't swaddle like they did
We are very fortunate to have been born in this era!
Please remember that just because nobels and royals did something doesnt mean commoners did. They absolutely ignored the rules of sex just as people did in the 20s 50s 60s and today. Societal norms doesnt mean it's what happened behind closed doors.
Well done. You’d be surprised how many of these practices still survive today. I had great great grandmothers who also had many of these beliefs. I will very much look forward to any other content that you put out upon the subject.
3:43 that baby 😳😂
I'd love to see you cover. Mothering Sunday, which would later become Mother's Day
Im so glad im pregnant in the 21st century and not in Medieval times 😬🙏🏼
Considering the rising mortality rate in the now non abortion states, this may be relative.
Another great video! Also the bithdates for females ,including the nobilty, weren't often recorded.
This most sounds similar to the fairly brutal conditions among us peasants when I was a child in Bangladesh. These people have my sympathies.
So babies Ductaped to the wall goes waaay back then?
@@alangknowles ye olde duuktyype 🤣
@@alangknowles Yup 🤣
😂
Enid, Oklahoma, 11 months old: My weird 40-45 year-old babysitter gave me the measles. Other north of 40: Bathed in ice was to cool down my 105° fever.
@1:07 Whooaahhh is that guys haemorrhoids violently exploding or what? No wonder that woman looks scared!
Omg I knowww lol
The European medieval period was such a regression in time compared to the culture and brilliance of Greek antiquity.
At least they were not as gay 🤣
It has always baffled me how hygiene was so lacking in these times when the Romans and Greeks lived with such sanitation.
A 3 year old watching an infant. That’s so crazy 😮
The first 1:30 of the video just sounded like you were describing the beliefs of the baptist church today.
2:57 aww baby Sloth
I don't understand and will never understand why people speak the way they do about the precious future of the human race as if they weren't once a baby themselves. Makes no sense.
Oooh I saw some Hieronymus Bosch artwork.
I’ve had four babies but only managed to maintain a milk supply with my eldest for about 10 weeks max. The rest of the time I’ve had to use formula. I have pals who’ve breastfed their baby up to almost year. I know without a shadow of a doubt I’d have no surviving babies if I lived in medieval times. They’d have been called failure to thrive probably.
Only good thing about back then , no texting or cell phones .
Our modern culture so often takes human life for granted. Thousands of perfectly healthy babies are killed via abortion every day in the US. Being conceived at all, let alone healthy, should always be treated as a miracle. We are lucky to be here!
You misspelt collection of cells
@the0nlytrueprophet942 nope. You may take your dehumanizing propaganda back to the middle ages.
@@emilyk.5664 Famously obsessed with molecular biology in the middle ages
@the0nlytrueprophet942 no need to be obsessed with molecular biology in order for a mother to feel her son or daughter move around inside her womb. It's amazing how a "collection of cells" wiggles, kicks, hiccups, sucks on their thumb, listens to music, responds to touch... But I realize you're just being obtuse 🥱
I’m glad I was a baby in the 1990s.
Pictures of medieval babies as creepy AF
how to survive in the medieval era as a baby. you didn't. roll credits
Medieval painting of babies and animals (especially dogs) are hilarious and creepy.
Like, who was the dude that painted these just for the commissioner to be all, “Tis spot on! Thyne tears shall floweth, and thou shalt always cherish thee for eons!” ‘shows a mutated painting of a monster bred with a cat.’
thank goodness my ancestors some how made it through!
What's going on in the painting at 9:53? "This is our selection today, take your pick?"
For those who survived, I don't think being a baby was for life, even back then...
Being a baby might not be for life but I'll tell you what is........herpes, that crap is for life
Oddly this was hilarious, it’s the pictures🤣😂🤣
Be thankful you were born in the 20th century.
20th or 21st
@@katexx4 both.
ah I’m early great video!.
humanizing a pig to humiliate it before a hanging is crazy work 😭
Swaddling isn’t *that* much work but diapering sure was!
Wow how very blessed we are to be able to live in this time thank you god ❤😇
Real story, it’s 1930s Russia, very deep country side where my grandpas family lived. Super traditional. They hunted on horses. So their neighbour had a 3 month old son. They (a man and his wife) left the boy alone to go get water from a nearby well. Came back and the boy was just gone, however, their domestic boar (huge one) was standing in the room. The scariest story I have ever herd…my grandpas grandma told him this story, he couldn’t sleep for months. She said there was not even a drop of blood. As a mother now this makes me shiver…
Lucky to be conceived? Considering how hard life was like in the Middle Ages, it probably would have been best to die young or not at all.
This is all relatively, you ufckwti. The 26th century is going to claim you were miserable idiot for living in a time when cancer still exists.
2:32 The dreaded poo-nami. :D
They also used to do surgeries on babies without any anaesthetic , as they thought Babies felt no pain.
It wasn't till sickeningly Recently that they realize babies do feel pain.
Curious! Today, the most dangerous time are not the first few years, but begins when children are young enough to receive TikTok challenges on their phones. 🤔
It never gets old 😂😂😂 I love the “babies” that are really just shrunken 40-50 year old white guys lmao
Putting a 3 yr old in charge of an infant is crazy!! 😳
When in Malawi I saw a swaddled baby in a tree. If you go to third world countries a lot of these things are still practiced. Sad too, almost everyone my age came from a large family with one or more deceased siblings.
At 5:14, that lady is totally shooting that monk with her breast milk.
😂😂 💯
Ahaha , she is
Eyo I'm early! First time ever
Ok but even in the Middle Ages, how do you look at a 3 year old and be like “babysit my infant please”
his voice is so fascinating wth
Sending the children off wasn’t so bad. Catherine de Medici was an orphan who was raised in convents. She ended a great figure in history.
She was also absolutely miserable for pretty much her entire life and is remembered as a ruthless and cruel tyrant. She was responsible for the deaths of up to 30,000 innocent people thanks to the St Bartholomew’s Massacre she orchestrated
All those babies look traumatized 😂 now I know why lol
The reason their was `social pressure` for women to breastfeed was so that babies wouldn`t die. They didn`t have baby formula and anti-biotics back then.
Breast milk is by far the best thing for babies. Formula is mostly corn syrup, and is a garbage diet for them.
This! That part bugged me, it was the only option.
Ye literally what are they supposed to do, it's the natural food for the baby
Babies really needed to watch where they were going.
Those baby accidents deaths were just heartbreaking 😢 the history of swaddling was interesting. My youngest granddaughter was born a month ago her mom can swaddle like a champion...me on the other hand can't quite get the hang of it 😒 but I'll keep trying.
My daughter (7months) liked swaddling at the beginning. She was born prematurely with 34 weeks and slept only swaddled. When she was about 6 weeks old, she wiggled herself out 😂 We still do this in Switzerland and Germany.
I love when people these days are against certain medical practises or even just basic infant care advice and use the excuse "they didn't have this hundreds of years ago". Do they not realise it was a miracle if any children actually survived.
Thanks!
Amazing we kept going..right ? with such a high mortality rate for babies.
Some experts estimate as many as 50% of all children ever born didn’t make it to adulthood. It really is impressive that we’re still here
👶🏻….lets try to survive until baptism🤠!
I have 3 boys the youngest which is 3 gives me a heart attack on a daily basis. This isn’t my first rodeo but this little guy is a rare breed totally different from his brothers 😥
Gives meaning to the saying, 'just hanging around', dosen't it?😁
😂
If they survive until teenage years, they can die from war/ childbirth, from hunger or smple infection
“It’s a wrap” LMAO 🤣
We have a relative, who lived into 100s, he had a number of wives, all died in childbirth or it was either his 13th or 14th wife they gave birth to his possibly last child he was something like 93, 94, or possibly 95. We do not know for sure because only the boy children were recorded when they reached. I believe it was 5 or 7 years of age. Girls were not recorded. But we know that he had a number of girl children that survived to adulthood. I have forgotten how many that were known because her names were referenced. I no longer remember how many boys he had that reached the age to be recorded. But it was considerable number. of which only four man to live to adulthood and have their children recorded. We less than a quarter of his children’s survived because there was a plague at the time he lived. Which plague I don’t remember. All of these things are in a box, in storage. My brother was historian of our family, when he died, my sister was supposed to assemble it. She has not had time. There was some 14 boxes, 18"x12"x12", filled with documentation, notebooks, and folders.
I believe it was the 11th century that this Swedish gentlemen had lived. The Black Death, between 1/3 and up to 2/3 in different areas. This is why we speculate that the four sons am I believe there was three daughters because they were mentioned in writing we are assuming survived to adulthood. By the numbers, it makes perfect sense although disease was not the only reason children and people died.
Human babies and cat babies have a lot in common. It's shocking that we've made it this far as a species by typically only producing one offspring at a time.
All of this is nuts but history is going to history.
Swaddling sounds like an exercise in stuffy, extreme confinement.
Thank you.
I already felt bad for the little homie from the thumbnail alone.
In addition to accidents - infectious diseases were the biggest killer of infants and young children. Because hygiene was impossible to achieve in poverty and not a single vaccine existed as well as no effective treatments such as antibiotics existed. Also it wasn't known how or why infections spreads so little could've been done to avoid them.
This makes me feel better for Co sleeping with my 3MO
It’s crazy that our ancestors had to survive so we can even be here today!