Actually, a real pillar of the greatest Broadway productions, plays, real plays, not moronic melodramatic glycemic musical theater that causes your teeth to rot.
A great film. I remember when the scandal was exposed to the public. It exposed the deviousness and duplicity of governments and their secret service organisations. Nothing much has changed I suspect.
In this particular case they knew a super gun will never work. It takes too long to reload barrels wear extremely fast and side charges trigger too soon. Even more so when the barrel is worn.
What is funny is I followed all Iraq wars closely yet never knew the story of Mr. Bull. Just as I'd never known how false usa democracy is had I never saw "hacking democracy " by HBO. Only if all media held such a high standards as hbo.
@@Dave5843-d9myour wrong the fact is the only thing preventing it from working is the usa Israeli intervention in which they destroyed the gun rite b4 completion. It would have been able to hit a 6x6 point in Israel. And the creation of the supergun may be THE LINCHPIN: to 1st usa war on Iraq. You have 0 factual, citeable, evidence, contrary to these facts.
And the propaganda used to make other countries look like the aggressor. Example...300.000 Japanese civilians, in two split seconds, vapourised. Incinerated. Radiated. Thousands of Japanese babies bursting like popcorn in a microwave. A recorded genocidal act. A fact. And never mentioned again. But, the same country, and it's lapdog, use propaganda to convince most of the world that the Germans were systematically gassing millions. Even though, not one gass chamber was ever found. (The only one built by the Russians After WW2 to give support to the propaganda. And of course their expansion into Europe.) To go in to more detail would take a couple of years to explain...That is how well propaganda protects the true villains...Propaganda spaghetti. Who would even consider trying to untangle the untangable? Only the insulted free thinkers of truth. America. England...There's not enough soap powder or detergents ever made or to be made could wash away the blood they have spilt in the name of..."We're the good guys" When they are, in fact, expansionist. Invaders. Empires. The "Third Reich" is gone forever, but the - Fourth Reich - is going strong. Should you wish to find out where they operate... You'll find them between Canada and South America. If you get lost...Write to...JULIAN ASSANGE. He'll point you in the right direction. Believe nothing your told...Even by that person in the mirror. Keep an open mind. Work hard on the small insignificant details, and sooner or later, you'll find their significance to be paramount.
What isn't fiction, is the aerodynamic talents of Jerry Bull. He didn't want to build weapons. The CIA told him he could earn the money to build his dream to shoot satellites into space by doing this. It cost him his life.
one of the reasons to visit Duxford Imperial War Museum was to see a section of the doomsday gun preserved there. It does look terribly like some oversize pipping... just to think how close they were to accomplish it.
One of best real history based movies ever. HbO never disappoints. They are on the cutting edge of all reality and entertainment ever since I was a kid. Ppl like me always idolized ppl who had hbo in their cable. It was premiumchan. ..bc that is how good it was...for adults especially. And like a fine wine hbo only gets better in time. Idk much about their co. but I recall my uncle Ralph being a huge fan of them as I grew up. I wish he would have given us free hbo...bc I know he knew how to. But I'd see it only on their yearly 2 week previews.
Bull was too smart for his own good. He forgot/ignored that just because you're still technically a civilian doesn't mean you'll be treated as one if you work in the defence sector. For the scientific community he was a genius for governments he was evaluated on how big of a security risk he was. I'm sympathetic but realistic.
either he got caught selling 20k worth of info .. or it was a setup 🤔 i thought of that, and maybe that 20k was his cut .. too sketchy for me to know but he took the bullets with him 😳
Anyone intelligent in any special way is a threat to the status quo n powers that be. It's funny how they all claim to be capitalist. Yet the moment intelligent ppl share their knowledge things become fascist, n authoritarian real quickly.
@@alexcarter8807 1964 usa military eliminated last son law which means last son of family cannot be drafted to insure families lines. Right in time for Vietnam they ended the last son preservation law. And do today. Too. Welcome to military industrial. Complex state. Your all drafted.
Fun fact: Army tanks are called tanks because the British wanted to maintain the secrecy of their new wonder weapon and referred to them as (water) tanks. Seventy or so years later the gun barrel for the supergun was made & shipped as oil pipe.
Imagine if superguns are used everywhere in the future, and the military would refer to them as 'pipes.' "We'll teach them a lesson they won't forget. Hit em with the pipes!" Many people may thing missiles are the most dangerous weapon. But missiles are always relatively large and thus easier to intercept. Unless it's an ICBM and has already released its warhead at its highest point.
Loved the movie ; didn't know that it was a television movie . Of course it's loaded with great talent like Langella,Spacey etc and the dialogue and dramatics are enjoyable.
HBO films though, they had many in the cinema and many that could have been. Look through their list on Wikipedia, so many classics in the 80s and 90s and later, like American Splendour, A Passage to India, The Hitcher, Three Amigos, they ain't no bog-standard "network TV movie."
The HARP gun is laying rotten in rust, at the southeast of Barbado's International Airport. I seen it with the views from Google Earth, and it show us the two naval guns welded in one single barrel. That always fascinating me, since i was view the movie. Gerald Bull was e genius. Sorry my bad english. Greetings from Santa Rosa-La Pampa-Argentina.
@@garyk1334your teln me. I used to drink blood from beautiful virgins at bill Clinton party's and now I'm a vegetarian with no incisors. True story. (4 qanon)
Still is. Them n vice news are the only cutting edge sources of true n honest news or facts. I'm getting old...I prefer books to TV n net...but being who I am hbo is one only media outlet I trust. I love d pbs for decades but now I find even they are scum...not like ATNT ETC..but close to that bias.
His plan was to shoot satellites into space with a large gun. What the people who had the money to fund his experiments did with the the technology, wasn't what drove him. What drove him was putting things into space at less than 1/10 the cost of what NASA, & its 19,000 employees needed to do the same job. Jerry could do with a small group of engineers, & his own lifelong experience as a revolutionary Aero Dynamisist with a love for doing the impossible. The CIA paid him to help several countries fight & win wars, from Angola to Israel. Congress made him a USA citizen by a simple meeting, so he could be an American, as a Canadian, to do the work they wanted from him. What they didn't want, was Jerry Bull putting 19k people out if a job at NASA, so they strung him along, always promising to 1 day fund his Supergun program. Bulls best achievement (sarcasm perhaps) was while imprisoned in Federal penitentiary. A fellow inmate of many yrs, complained to Bull about how cold it was in the winter time, & how for a state of the art facility, the tax payers got ripped off in the heating design. Jerry askthe warden if he could have a look at the Blueprints of the heating and ventilation system. The warden warned him ahead of time, it wouldn't change anything, & nobody would pay to redo the system. Jerry looked at the design, & without buying any new parts or components of real value, he was able to explain to the maintainance crew how to rework the system, & get it to heat the building as designed. The components were are spec'd correctly. They were just put together incorrectly. & so the tax payers eventually got, free of charge, what they oaid for. A properly designed ventilation system. Jerry was a very kind person. He didn't have a mean bone in his body. He was like a kid who wanted to shoot bottle rockets from an ole pipe he found behind the barn. What boy didn't do that, or dream of it? You won't find an employee of his who will say a bad word about him. He was good to his people, & paid them cery well. Many depended on him to support there families. His facility on the border of Canada & USA still exists. That alone is a story all its own. RIP Jerry 🙏. To bad they didn't want you to put NASA out if business, & save American tax payers billion$ & billion$ in satellite launches.
Jerry would never have put anybody out of business. Are you aware that this gun, built to design, would have created an acceleration of 10,000g during the projectile's transit down the barrel? About 98,000 m/s2, ten thousand times the 1g we experience on Earth. Satellite packages would have to be built to withstand that (F=ma Newton's Second Law). During launch, a one-kilogram component would weigh 98,000 newtons (weight W=mG, where G=10,000g, or 10,000 times the earth's g value of 9.8 m/s^2). That's equivalent to a mass of 10,000 kg (22,000 lbs or about 11 ''short' tons). Same with something tiny, mass of 1 gram -- which is the mass of one milliliter of water -- subjected to forces equivalent to a mass of 10,000 grams or 10 kilograms (22 lbs). Everything on every satellite would have to be ridiculously over-engineered just to survive the trauma of launch with its unprecedented g values. Very, very risky to spend millions to build a satellite only to have it become useless in orbit because one tiny-but-critical component fractured during launch. Like a 10-gram capacitor tearing away from a circuit board, or crushing itself internally, because it suddenly has a weight equivalent to 100 kilograms. Acceleration is a killer... this is why moon rockets have multiple stages: not just to store lots of propellant, but to lengthen the distance the rockets burn and thereby reduce the acceleration to values under 10g which humans can survive. (V^2-V0^2=2as, where '^2' is a square, raising a superscript of 2; where V is final velocity; V0 is initial velocity, assumed to be zero; 's' is distance traveled while accelerating; and 'a' is acceleration. For any value of V-squared, a decrease in acceleration 'a' results in an increase in distance 's'.)
I'll say this: I started watching it, thinking that after 5 or 10 minutes it wouldn't keep my interest, but I ended up watching it straight through. Not the greatest movie ever made, sure, but a decent enough drama based on actual events -- events which I vaguely remembered when it made the TV news. Langella and Spacey were great, and the acting all around was decent. Made for HBO -- and you can see they probably made it as a way of commenting on the bullshit political corruption from during the Bush years that allowed it to go as far as it did.
Thank goodness we replaced the "corrupt" George H. W. Bush with the always honest and upright Clintons. Who would never take a dollar from a foreign country to serve their interests! They certainly have never been suspected of murdering their political enemies or inconvenient people, especially Hillary. Not.
"The Fist of God" a novel written by Fredrick Forsythe gives a lot of information about the lead-up to this full-scale weapon. It talks about the prototype catenary gun built in the mountains of Iraq to test the principle (whether true or not, it wasn't previously disclosed). I was on my way back from a foreign assignment when the news broke of the seizure of flanged, precision machined pipe spools that were found in a British warehouse bound via air freight, for Iraq.
I remember a Brit trucker getting arrested because he was carrying a steel pipe and they assumed it was for the super gun. Bit of a mess, but they let him go eventually
Yes , it was in sections that screwed together . He was a lorry driver and held all the necessary paperwork , yet the Sun newspaper portrayed him as a master mind . I believe the Israeli secret service , reduced the number of people involved 😀
00:25 That bucket of paint is Dutch. One and a half hours later: They were in Belgium, Brussels, so that explains that. A friend of mine, a physicist, was temporarily working in Israel when those scuds started raining down. I remember going to the Dutch airport when she arrived. She had her gas mask with her. They had to take it on board. Airports were being targeted too.
Methinks Gerald Bull should have concentrated on mobile field artillery, following from the spectacular success of his units the South Africans used to outgun the Angolans. Any immobile supergun is doomed. Tracking radar trangulates the trajectory of the projectile to determine the gun's location, then squadrons of F-16s can blast any fixed artillery installation to kingdom come. The survival of the state-of-the-art American howitzers in the Ukraine stems not from their range and accuracy but on their ability to fire rapidly and then get the hell out of dodge before the Russians can deliver a devastating reprisal. Survival comes down to a matter of minutes and seconds - not even towed artilery is nimble enough. Big guns are not lostically viable, that's why nobody builds battleships any more.
Its hard to imagine they could build the gun for 25 million even in the 80-s, today it would be more like 250 million. That kind of quality steel and precision manufacturing costs a fortune, probably one section of the barrel would run close to a million dollars.
My Late wife was the MDs secretary when customs raided Forgemasters Steel. Her MD and Forgemasters Groupe MD spent the night in jail. Something the elite were not accustomed too. I remember at the time Sheffield was a boom town and I was working overtime at home checking LA plans. My wife who I picked up from work was also working late. I took some plans to Forgemasters to check out while I waited for her, under the strict instructions not to breath a word about supergun. The MD said hello to me and joked "there not supergun plans are they " Still laugh about that 30 plus years later. Great film brings back memories. Frank Langella was my wife's favorite actor and sex symble at the time.
Condolences regarding your wife.As you have stated,this story is definitely true. I can confirm that as far as the public were aware, the problem came to light when the shipment of the last tube/ tubes was detained by customs at the docks. Peter left our company on Friday and started his new job at Forgemasters on Monday as the Group MD where as you say he was arrested and spent Tuesday in Jail. As you say, takes you back, fair representation of factual events.
36:24 Dr Bull should've know about relining gun barrels, it was a practice used by the Royal Navy on their 60ft gun barrelled Battleships. Most probably the USN plus all the other navies of the world too.
I remember a brit truck driver getting arrested because he was hauling a piece of the gun through Italy. He hadnt got a clue what was on there because the paperwork was false
@@Imjustsaying1966 Wow. the press and their BS again. All these years i felt real bad for you and you knew what you had. Well i hope you had a good life mate and stay out of trouble please
@@justjones5430 - What it means is basically you can’t shoot left or right, only straight ahead; either closer or further depending on propellant, etc, but you can’t make the projectile deviate from the chosen trajectory unless you make the projectile steerable.
Whatever it fired would have needed fins or rockets to be useful for anything IMO. I heard it was supposed to launch satellites too, but they'd still need rockets for most of the velocity since a gun projectile is limited by the speed of sound in the burning propellant gas. My guess is Bull just wanted to build a really big gun as his own personal interest & Iraq said they'd pay for it if he helped with their actual useful missiles & artillery.
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I cannot understand why this excellent movie only rates a 6 at Imdb. When I was a student, I saw it on the news. Well, the story that parts of pipelines were intercepted, which were destined for Iraq. Upon watching the movie, I thought it was a conspiracy product. Never thought about it again, apart from that it was a great spy thriller and rather lifelike. I knew about Bull from popular science magazines that I read in my teens. But while watching this movie, I googled everything again and it turns out it really did happen. And one part of the Supergun barrel is in a British museum. Excellent production values. While they don't scream at you with how much money was spent, the hardware and locations look more convincing than those in some Bond movies. *Excellent detail:* at the start we see a can of paint or varnish. The labels are in Dutch, because the hitmen purchased it locally of course. Imagine if the can had Arabic or Israeli labels instead. Anyway, I just assumed they would be in English because it's an English language movie.
In fact, the Babylon cannon project was actually a project that was carried out in Iraq The novel by Frederick Forsythe, based on this cannon It's "God's Fist". In the novel With the Babylon cannon from this movie They fire the same atomic bomb that was dropped in Hiroshima during World War II It was planned to strike the multinational military camps that gathered to liberate Kuwait during the Gulf War. If........
This actual incident illustrates vividly how some engineers and scientists get so in love with their science and projects that it grows to become a overwhelming arrogance, they lose the integrity and maturity to self evaluate how many people will be destroyed and maimed by their development/work.
Some of the dialogue is cheesy and melodramatic but this is a solidly produced movie. Dr Bull had a vision to design and build an awesome weapon, capable of tremendous advantage to anyone using it. I’m confused why he was so intent on creating the ‘super gun’ at the expense of his own life?
Some men have a vision and become obsessed in achieving said vision. Obsession is often required to achieve what has not been done before. Many inventions were thought of by obsessed men. Its not a bad thing if its used for good. Building weapons that kill is not good. He deserved what he got. As ye sow, so shall ye reap.
@@ziggyschumann5284 did Werner VaunBraun & Kelly Johnson also get what they deserved, then? Cuz those 2 lilled more people than Jerry Bull ever did. VaunBraun literally stepped over dead body's of Jewish slave labor to get in & out of the facility that built the V2. Wake up.
there is a scene in the 1980s dramatization oppenheimer about the manhattan project that is almost identical to 24 minutes in -- both men are explaining some approach and both when asked how to do it confess, i don't know. langella sounds a lot like waterston actually.
I have had no clue Spacey was the lead in "Margin Call" just recently, although the film made great impact on me... He was really great in disappearing into the character and paradoxically didn't play always "the same way". And sometimes he was just NOT memorable like here ;-)
This man was a monster but look at all the highly-educated people (designers and engieers) who were willing to work for him! No one has a shred of ethics any more!
In the video game "Sacred 2 Fallen Angel" the Seraphim character has a buff called BeeEffGee which some players refer to as the BFG the "Big Effing Gun" It's a divine weapon in the form of a gun that destroys everything.
A nice movie. However, there is 1 big error to report. A cannon barrel without a Rifled barrel?? Rifling consists of spiral grooves in the bore, which will impart a spin to the fired round as it travels down the barrel. This spin will gyro stabilize the flight of the fired round. That is what I do not see.
The super gun would also be highly vulnerable due to its immobility. Israeli Air Force would have identified it’s location with ease - and they would have if it was actually completed.
Ah! So he did spot that "Tail"! I'm the same way. Folks following me? I spot them pretty quickly. Almost always the Corporations own security people. Makes me feel very safe!
@@trevortrevortsr2 First grade teachers always feel good when a student picks up on a point of basic grammar and they take sarcasm in their stride. I am not much different.
Except it didn't result in any action. Forgemasters did not notify anyone. Kudos to the movie screenwriters for using the name "Forgemasters" which is the actual name of the company involved in the real-life scandal.
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Can you upload The Green Mile?? One of the finest movies ever IMO. Thanks of course for this great movie...
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Frank Langella...master actor....pillar of real Hollywood.
Actually, a real pillar of the greatest Broadway productions, plays, real plays, not moronic melodramatic glycemic musical theater that causes your teeth to rot.
I thought Kevin Spacey was excellent as always.
From my hometown of Bayonne, NJ
All around great acting. One of best films ever. Hbo really hits home runs on every film they create.
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Finally this movie is back. Thanks to whoever uploaded this.
A great film. I remember when the scandal was exposed to the public. It exposed the deviousness and duplicity of governments and their secret service organisations. Nothing much has changed I suspect.
Reagan-Bush funded Iran...and Iraq at the same time ! Republicans forcing America into stupid corners has been history since Eisenhower.
Now they’re doing it within their own countries.
In this particular case they knew a super gun will never work. It takes too long to reload barrels wear extremely fast and side charges trigger too soon. Even more so when the barrel is worn.
What is funny is I followed all Iraq wars closely yet never knew the story of Mr. Bull. Just as I'd never known how false usa democracy is had I never saw "hacking democracy " by HBO. Only if all media held such a high standards as hbo.
@@Dave5843-d9myour wrong the fact is the only thing preventing it from working is the usa Israeli intervention in which they destroyed the gun rite b4 completion. It would have been able to hit a 6x6 point in Israel. And the creation of the supergun may be THE LINCHPIN: to 1st usa war on Iraq. You have 0 factual, citeable, evidence, contrary to these facts.
This is very good. Much better than anything they put out these days. I honestly prefer this to Oppenheimer. Thanks for uploading!
The stuff that goes on with our money and under our noses. Unreal.
This is fiction lol
@@walkertongdee , this fiction goes on every day
And the propaganda used to make other countries look like the aggressor. Example...300.000 Japanese civilians, in two split seconds, vapourised. Incinerated. Radiated. Thousands of Japanese babies bursting like popcorn in a microwave. A recorded genocidal act. A fact. And never mentioned again. But, the same country, and it's lapdog, use propaganda to convince most of the world that the Germans were systematically gassing millions. Even though, not one gass chamber was ever found. (The only one built by the Russians After WW2 to give support to the propaganda. And of course their expansion into Europe.) To go in to more detail would take a couple of years to explain...That is how well propaganda protects the true villains...Propaganda spaghetti. Who would even consider trying to untangle the untangable? Only the insulted free thinkers of truth. America. England...There's not enough soap powder or detergents ever made or to be made could wash away the blood they have spilt in the name of..."We're the good guys" When they are, in fact, expansionist. Invaders. Empires. The "Third Reich" is gone forever, but the - Fourth Reich - is going strong. Should you wish to find out where they operate... You'll find them between Canada and South America. If you get lost...Write to...JULIAN ASSANGE. He'll point you in the right direction. Believe nothing your told...Even by that person in the mirror. Keep an open mind. Work hard on the small insignificant details, and sooner or later, you'll find their significance to be paramount.
What isn't fiction, is the aerodynamic talents of Jerry Bull. He didn't want to build weapons. The CIA told him he could earn the money to build his dream to shoot satellites into space by doing this. It cost him his life.
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I was in Sheffield when Forgemasters was surrounded...
Even at the time we heard rumours of the supergun...
Man you brits get to witness so much points of history. Idk if that's an accreditation or damnation of Britannia.? You tell me?
@@chrishorst1318 Probably because we cause most of it.
one of the reasons to visit Duxford Imperial War Museum was to see a section of the doomsday gun preserved there. It does look terribly like some oversize pipping... just to think how close they were to accomplish it.
pipping?
@@watchgoosepipping it izzz ! 😂 let it ride!
This in the news then, still happens today. But a Great flick too. Langella & Spacey Legends 💥👏🏽 Thanks for sharing
One of best real history based movies ever. HbO never disappoints. They are on the cutting edge of all reality and entertainment ever since I was a kid. Ppl like me always idolized ppl who had hbo in their cable. It was premiumchan. ..bc that is how good it was...for adults especially.
And like a fine wine hbo only gets better in time. Idk much about their co. but I recall my uncle Ralph being a huge fan of them as I grew up. I wish he would have given us free hbo...bc I know he knew how to. But I'd see it only on their yearly 2 week previews.
Bull was too smart for his own good. He forgot/ignored that just because you're still technically a civilian doesn't mean you'll be treated as one if you work in the defence sector. For the scientific community he was a genius for governments he was evaluated on how big of a security risk he was. I'm sympathetic but realistic.
The US has laws that allow for you to basically be *drafted* if you have certain skills, in case of war or national emergency.
@@alexcarter8807 I would be surprised if you could name one country which has not got such a law.
either he got caught selling 20k worth of info .. or it was a setup 🤔 i thought of that, and maybe that 20k was his cut .. too sketchy for me to know but he took the bullets with him 😳
Anyone intelligent in any special way is a threat to the status quo n powers that be. It's funny how they all claim to be capitalist. Yet the moment intelligent ppl share their knowledge things become fascist, n authoritarian real quickly.
@@alexcarter8807 1964 usa military eliminated last son law which means last son of family cannot be drafted to insure families lines.
Right in time for Vietnam they ended the last son preservation law. And do today. Too. Welcome to military industrial. Complex state. Your all drafted.
"What you're doing can set fire to half the world." What a great line. What a great movie.
Fun fact: Army tanks are called tanks because the British wanted to maintain the secrecy of their new wonder weapon and referred to them as (water) tanks. Seventy or so years later the gun barrel for the supergun was made & shipped as oil pipe.
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Imagine if superguns are used everywhere in the future, and the military would refer to them as 'pipes.'
"We'll teach them a lesson they won't forget. Hit em with the pipes!"
Many people may thing missiles are the most dangerous weapon. But missiles are always relatively large and thus easier to intercept.
Unless it's an ICBM and has already released its warhead at its highest point.
Loved the movie ; didn't know that it was a television movie . Of course it's loaded with great talent like Langella,Spacey etc and the dialogue and dramatics are enjoyable.
HBO films though, they had many in the cinema and many that could have been. Look through their list on Wikipedia, so many classics in the 80s and 90s and later, like American Splendour, A Passage to India, The Hitcher, Three Amigos, they ain't no bog-standard "network TV movie."
The HARP gun is still in place in Barbados. I was there at Foul Bay when they were landed. Summer holidays and worked for free smokes. Great memories.
damnnn 😳 barbados tells us more
U have my attention. I heard it's been resurrected. It's only flaws was the violent launch.
The HARP gun is laying rotten in rust, at the southeast of Barbado's International Airport. I seen it with the views from Google Earth, and it show us the two naval guns welded in one single barrel. That always fascinating me, since i was view the movie. Gerald Bull was e genius. Sorry my bad english. Greetings from Santa Rosa-La Pampa-Argentina.
This still goes on today.
craziness, some people just build things to destroy, kill and maim ... sad really 🤔
Thanks for the upload! Been waiting forever to watch this one again.
HBO did some really underrated movies back in the day.
Gosh...did I ever have a crush of Frank Langella when he played Dracula! Deary me. 🤣
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Fangs ain't what they used to be , but hey fancy going out for a stake ?
Me too...jk I never saw it but I will thank u 4 the lead.
@@garyk1334your teln me. I used to drink blood from beautiful virgins at bill Clinton party's and now I'm a vegetarian with no incisors. True story. (4 qanon)
Watch out for the darkness in your soul!
Excellent movie. The history it depicts is upsetting, but the film itself is well done.
Before watching this movie, I knew about the subject. But it was thrilling watching the whole/ part of the story in a cinematic form.
Back When HBO Was Worth Watching
Still is. Them n vice news are the only cutting edge sources of true n honest news or facts. I'm getting old...I prefer books to TV n net...but being who I am hbo is one only media outlet I trust. I love d pbs for decades but now I find even they are scum...not like ATNT ETC..but close to that bias.
Great film with some outstanding actors.
The problem with a big gun is it`s not easily manoeuvrable. Once your opponent locates it it`s operating on borrowed time.
The Coalition during the 1991 Gulf War would have strike planes armed with GBUs to destroy it but that’s provided they know where it is.
His plan was to shoot satellites into space with a large gun. What the people who had the money to fund his experiments did with the the technology, wasn't what drove him. What drove him was putting things into space at less than 1/10 the cost of what NASA, & its 19,000 employees needed to do the same job. Jerry could do with a small group of engineers, & his own lifelong experience as a revolutionary Aero Dynamisist with a love for doing the impossible. The CIA paid him to help several countries fight & win wars, from Angola to Israel. Congress made him a USA citizen by a simple meeting, so he could be an American, as a Canadian, to do the work they wanted from him. What they didn't want, was Jerry Bull putting 19k people out if a job at NASA, so they strung him along, always promising to 1 day fund his Supergun program. Bulls best achievement (sarcasm perhaps) was while imprisoned in Federal penitentiary. A fellow inmate of many yrs, complained to Bull about how cold it was in the winter time, & how for a state of the art facility, the tax payers got ripped off in the heating design. Jerry askthe warden if he could have a look at the Blueprints of the heating and ventilation system. The warden warned him ahead of time, it wouldn't change anything, & nobody would pay to redo the system. Jerry looked at the design, & without buying any new parts or components of real value, he was able to explain to the maintainance crew how to rework the system, & get it to heat the building as designed. The components were are spec'd correctly. They were just put together incorrectly. & so the tax payers eventually got, free of charge, what they oaid for. A properly designed ventilation system.
Jerry was a very kind person. He didn't have a mean bone in his body. He was like a kid who wanted to shoot bottle rockets from an ole pipe he found behind the barn. What boy didn't do that, or dream of it? You won't find an employee of his who will say a bad word about him. He was good to his people, & paid them cery well. Many depended on him to support there families. His facility on the border of Canada & USA still exists. That alone is a story all its own.
RIP Jerry 🙏. To bad they didn't want you to put NASA out if business, & save American tax payers billion$ & billion$ in satellite launches.
now throw in the murder .. i suspect he sold something to someone for the 20k he had on him ... probably a set up 🤔
Jerry would never have put anybody out of business. Are you aware that this gun, built to design, would have created an acceleration of 10,000g during the projectile's transit down the barrel? About 98,000 m/s2, ten thousand times the 1g we experience on Earth. Satellite packages would have to be built to withstand that (F=ma Newton's Second Law). During launch, a one-kilogram component would weigh 98,000 newtons (weight W=mG, where G=10,000g, or 10,000 times the earth's g value of 9.8 m/s^2). That's equivalent to a mass of 10,000 kg (22,000 lbs or about 11 ''short' tons). Same with something tiny, mass of 1 gram -- which is the mass of one milliliter of water -- subjected to forces equivalent to a mass of 10,000 grams or 10 kilograms (22 lbs). Everything on every satellite would have to be ridiculously over-engineered just to survive the trauma of launch with its unprecedented g values. Very, very risky to spend millions to build a satellite only to have it become useless in orbit because one tiny-but-critical component fractured during launch. Like a 10-gram capacitor tearing away from a circuit board, or crushing itself internally, because it suddenly has a weight equivalent to 100 kilograms. Acceleration is a killer... this is why moon rockets have multiple stages: not just to store lots of propellant, but to lengthen the distance the rockets burn and thereby reduce the acceleration to values under 10g which humans can survive.
(V^2-V0^2=2as, where '^2' is a square, raising a superscript of 2; where V is final velocity; V0 is initial velocity, assumed to be zero; 's' is distance traveled while accelerating; and 'a' is acceleration. For any value of V-squared, a decrease in acceleration 'a' results in an increase in distance 's'.)
Excellent movie considering it was made for TV. Cast includes 5 Oscar nominees, 2 winners.
I'll say this: I started watching it, thinking that after 5 or 10 minutes it wouldn't keep my interest, but I ended up watching it straight through. Not the greatest movie ever made, sure, but a decent enough drama based on actual events -- events which I vaguely remembered when it made the TV news. Langella and Spacey were great, and the acting all around was decent. Made for HBO -- and you can see they probably made it as a way of commenting on the bullshit political corruption from during the Bush years that allowed it to go as far as it did.
Me too
Thank goodness we replaced the "corrupt" George H. W. Bush with the always honest and upright Clintons. Who would never take a dollar from a foreign country to serve their interests! They certainly have never been suspected of murdering their political enemies or inconvenient people, especially Hillary.
Not.
The corruption is just as bad today. Even worse when Ukraine is being given enough to survive but not actually win.
Pool table, TVs, play stations and more
I am an expert in external ballistics. I don't understand the reason for making Baylon. I could only fire once, it's in a fixed position.
Next PLEASE Kevin Spacey's The Usual Suspect 😃 great upload of this movie👍 we luvv Kevin as always 🤟🙋
Kevin is a perv.
pedo spacey?
Usual Suspects is on TH-cam. I believe it's free. Or their is a free version.
"we luvv Kevin..." A convicted gay rapist and special friend of the Epstein crew. Great!
Nice movie.
A jail with a pool table ? No bad. No bad at all.
cathedral eh? 😂 welcome to napoles !!!
I saw Frank Langella in "DRACULA" on Broadway decades ago. He was spellbinding on stage and a great actor on film.
He's also got a very menacing goulish face, not unlike the great Christopher Lee eh bro? 👍
"The Fist of God" a novel written by Fredrick Forsythe gives a lot of information about the lead-up to this full-scale weapon. It talks about the prototype catenary gun built in the mountains of Iraq to test the principle (whether true or not, it wasn't previously disclosed). I was on my way back from a foreign assignment when the news broke of the seizure of flanged, precision machined pipe spools that were found in a British warehouse bound via air freight, for Iraq.
yeah and imagine being told a story such as " we're installing new pipe for the oil or natural gas .. truth ( gun barrel sections) 😂
Mel Brooks "The Twelve Chairs".
A very young Langella shines.
The Simpsons?
I've seen a couple of sections of the Babylon Supergun at the Royal Armouries museum. It would've been awe inspiring had this gun been built.
Awesome!
Did they say if they got these pieces from Iraq or were they part of the few pieces not delivered to Iraq.
Amazing soundtrack by Richard Harvey!
That old mac screenshot with "Gun Stuff"as the title was hilarious!🤣
I remember a Brit trucker getting arrested because he was carrying a steel pipe and they assumed it was for the super gun. Bit of a mess, but they let him go eventually
Yes , it was in sections that screwed together . He was a lorry driver and held all the necessary paperwork , yet the Sun newspaper portrayed him as a master mind . I believe the Israeli secret service , reduced the number of people involved 😀
@@johncumiskey672 oh we're doing some pipefitting gig for the oil/gas company 😂
00:25 That bucket of paint is Dutch.
One and a half hours later: They were in Belgium, Brussels, so that explains that.
A friend of mine, a physicist, was temporarily working in Israel when those scuds started raining down. I remember going to the Dutch airport when she arrived. She had her gas mask with her. They had to take it on board. Airports were being targeted too.
A very true film, great actors, thank you
Good stuff, I wanted to watch this last week but couldn't find it, excellent upload with perfect timing 👌 👍
Methinks Gerald Bull should have concentrated on mobile field artillery, following from the spectacular success of his units the South Africans used to outgun the Angolans. Any immobile supergun is doomed. Tracking radar trangulates the trajectory of the projectile to determine the gun's location, then squadrons of F-16s can blast any fixed artillery installation to kingdom come. The survival of the state-of-the-art American howitzers in the Ukraine stems not from their range and accuracy but on their ability to fire rapidly and then get the hell out of dodge before the Russians can deliver a devastating reprisal. Survival comes down to a matter of minutes and seconds - not even towed artilery is nimble enough. Big guns are not lostically viable, that's why nobody builds battleships any more.
Shoot 'n scoot!
methinks he wanted to build a gun that can shoot into space because it is really cool
amazing 😂 you lost me, but i know you did well
Absolutely true. Fixed guns were vulnerable: to overtaking enemy armies in 1918, and to air power in 1988. 70 years, same problem, different threat.
Its hard to imagine they could build the gun for 25 million even in the 80-s, today it would be more like 250 million. That kind of quality steel and precision manufacturing costs a fortune, probably one section of the barrel would run close to a million dollars.
My Late wife was the MDs secretary when customs raided Forgemasters Steel. Her MD and Forgemasters Groupe MD spent the night in jail. Something the elite were not accustomed too. I remember at the time Sheffield was a boom town and I was working overtime at home checking LA plans. My wife who I picked up from work was also working late. I took some plans to Forgemasters to check out while I waited for her, under the strict instructions not to breath a word about supergun. The MD said hello to me and joked "there not supergun plans are they " Still laugh about that 30 plus years later. Great film brings back memories. Frank Langella was my wife's favorite actor and sex symble at the time.
This is a True Story???
@@robstack3712 based on a true story , with dollops of propaganda programming
@@robstack3712 Yes. Didn't you read the title?
Condolences regarding your wife.As you have stated,this story is definitely true. I can confirm that as far as the public were aware, the problem came to light when the shipment of the last tube/ tubes was detained by customs at the docks. Peter left our company on Friday and started his new job at Forgemasters on Monday as the Group MD where as you say he was arrested and spent Tuesday in Jail. As you say, takes you back, fair representation of factual events.
Greatest movie. Amen.. Hallelujah... 🙏❤️🙌🌹💯🕊️💐👍
Excellent movie. Brilliant acting.
36:24 Dr Bull should've know about relining gun barrels, it was a practice used by the Royal Navy on their 60ft gun barrelled Battleships. Most probably the USN plus all the other navies of the world too.
A protective lining is much different than having to totally reline a gun barrel after a single firing which would be quite a task on a gun this big.
@@doorguru168888 Thanks for this.
ahhh .. linings, excellent 🤔
Great Performances By Everyone In This Movie
Excellent film,well worth a watch!
I remember a brit truck driver getting arrested because he was hauling a piece of the gun through Italy. He hadnt got a clue what was on there because the paperwork was false
Man you saw tru history you're lucky. Only reason it didn't get stopped is no rifling in barrels.
@@chrishorst1318 It was all a very clever game, that cost lives.
That was me…..I knew what I had.
@@Imjustsaying1966 Wow. the press and their BS again. All these years i felt real bad for you and you knew what you had. Well i hope you had a good life mate and stay out of trouble please
A fabulous film, all the better for being based on a true story.
I enjoyed the movie. Had seen it many years ago. Good acting. I remember the case when it hit the press.
I just enjoy the way he overcame the building issues of making the gun
How do you aim a gun that's fixed to a mountain?
Obviously you can alter the range by adjustments to the propellant but can you steer the shells?
🤔
Trigonometry +altitude +propellant + wind
@@davidcollin1436
Your comment makes zero sense.
Can you explain what you mean please.
Thanks 🙂
@@davidcollin1436velocity + regulated propellant(s) = major recoil ? 😂 fire !
@@justjones5430 - What it means is basically you can’t shoot left or right, only straight ahead; either closer or further depending on propellant, etc, but you can’t make the projectile deviate from the chosen trajectory unless you make the projectile steerable.
Whatever it fired would have needed fins or rockets to be useful for anything IMO. I heard it was supposed to launch satellites too, but they'd still need rockets for most of the velocity since a gun projectile is limited by the speed of sound in the burning propellant gas. My guess is Bull just wanted to build a really big gun as his own personal interest & Iraq said they'd pay for it if he helped with their actual useful missiles & artillery.
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More interesting than it looks, like the other comment says, and great role by Langella
Dr Bull is the type of person the world can do without.
Langella, Spacey and Goldwyn have all played roles as POTUS.
I cannot understand why this excellent movie only rates a 6 at Imdb.
When I was a student, I saw it on the news. Well, the story that parts of pipelines were intercepted, which were destined for Iraq.
Upon watching the movie, I thought it was a conspiracy product.
Never thought about it again, apart from that it was a great spy thriller and rather lifelike.
I knew about Bull from popular science magazines that I read in my teens.
But while watching this movie, I googled everything again and it turns out it really did happen.
And one part of the Supergun barrel is in a British museum.
Excellent production values. While they don't scream at you with how much money was spent, the hardware and locations look more convincing than those in some Bond movies.
*Excellent detail:* at the start we see a can of paint or varnish. The labels are in Dutch, because the hitmen purchased it locally of course.
Imagine if the can had Arabic or Israeli labels instead.
Anyway, I just assumed they would be in English because it's an English language movie.
I Haven't Seen This Movie In A Long Time, Thanks For Putting This On TH-cam
In fact, the Babylon cannon project was actually a project that was carried out in Iraq
The novel by Frederick Forsythe, based on this cannon
It's "God's Fist".
In the novel
With the Babylon cannon from this movie
They fire the same atomic bomb that was dropped in Hiroshima during World War II
It was planned to strike the multinational military camps that gathered to liberate Kuwait during the Gulf War.
If........
This actual incident illustrates vividly how some engineers and scientists get so in love with their science and projects that it grows to become a overwhelming arrogance, they lose the integrity and maturity to self evaluate how many people will be destroyed and maimed by their development/work.
'the Germans built it for us, they are very good at underground bunkers......' hilarious 😅
this movie is wonderful I had no idea that tony Goldwyn is in it he is so handsome and very talented
War can be viewed as a high-stakes game.
The bigger the risk, the bigger the reward. It does require a very sad perspective on life.
Well, bull was pretty much asking for that bullet.
Some of the dialogue is cheesy and melodramatic but this is a solidly produced movie. Dr Bull had a vision to design and build an awesome weapon, capable of tremendous advantage to anyone using it. I’m confused why he was so intent on creating the ‘super gun’ at the expense of his own life?
He was throwing a tantrum.
Some men have a vision and become obsessed in achieving said vision. Obsession is often required to achieve what has not been done before. Many inventions were thought of by obsessed men. Its not a bad thing if its used for good. Building weapons that kill is not good. He deserved what he got. As ye sow, so shall ye reap.
His life wasn't an expensive one - a cheap life dedicated to the creating of an expensive weapon.
@@ziggyschumann5284 did Werner VaunBraun & Kelly Johnson also get what they deserved, then? Cuz those 2 lilled more people than Jerry Bull ever did. VaunBraun literally stepped over dead body's of Jewish slave labor to get in & out of the facility that built the V2. Wake up.
Underrated tv movie.
Outstanding movie, thanks for uploading, subscribed! 👍
Excellent movie with a great cast.
there is a scene in the 1980s dramatization oppenheimer about the manhattan project that is almost identical to 24 minutes in -- both men are explaining some approach and both when asked how to do it confess, i don't know. langella sounds a lot like waterston actually.
Them Priest targeting the young lads!
No clue Kevin Spacey was in this, haven't seen this in 15 years
I have had no clue Spacey was the lead in "Margin Call" just recently, although the film made great impact on me... He was really great in disappearing into the character and paradoxically didn't play always "the same way". And sometimes he was just NOT memorable like here ;-)
Frank Langella was the sexiest "Dracula" ever seen.
The man who had ten minutes to live was laughing.
from Frederick Forsyth’s The Fist of God
damnnn 😳
What a great film, I really enjoyed watching, thank you, 👍👍👍👊✌️🇬🇧. PS, I've seen a section of the Iraqi super gun at Duxford IWM.
This man was a monster but look at all the highly-educated people (designers and engieers) who were willing to work for him! No one has a shred of ethics any more!
Worth watching.
EXCELLENT MOVIE.
💥💥💥💥💥✔
Good solid TV film. Thank-you for the upload!
It was a great movie so thanks for sharing 👌👍👍👍
Proper movie no fucking cgi
Excellent!
Excellent
In the video game "Sacred 2 Fallen Angel" the Seraphim character has a buff called BeeEffGee which some players refer to as the BFG the "Big Effing Gun" It's a divine weapon in the form of a gun that destroys everything.
Fantastic, very Good.
Great cast and movie.
A nice movie. However, there is 1 big error to report. A cannon barrel without a Rifled barrel?? Rifling consists of spiral grooves in the bore, which will impart a spin to the fired round as it travels down the barrel. This spin will gyro stabilize the flight of the fired round. That is what I do not see.
That's not neccessary if the projectile has a gyroscopic stabilizer installed.
Smooth bore gun.
Most large guns are smooth bore!
The super gun would also be highly vulnerable due to its immobility. Israeli Air Force would have identified it’s location with ease - and they would have if it was actually completed.
@@nickjung7394 Most tank guns are smooth bore.
It's sad the world operates this way. That's why gangsters make friends now without becoming clients.
very nice thank you
a great movie, life or death Gerald Bull was committed to his mission, a tragedy that even CIA and MI5 could not hold the hands of Mossad to kill him.
Of course, the Gun was aimed at Israel, so why should the CIA or MI5 care about that. His killing was ordered by Mossad and rightly so!
Great cast.
Thanks for uploading this film - i've always wanted to see this.
Ah! So he did spot that "Tail"!
I'm the same way. Folks following me? I spot them pretty quickly. Almost always the Corporations own security people. Makes me feel very safe!
What a cast.
But my point is why build a world largest gun that is stationary?
Nuke silos
Wow! Wow! Wow! I’m without speech!
Bull was really hung out to dry by Mi6. Thanks for all the info on Iraq’s weapons programme - now you’re on your own!
A really good film , amazing how the lies like in this keep getting told over and over again
Recommended.
9:32 great file naming system
The material specification and tolerances on them Barrel sections would have raised alarm bells at Forge Masters immediately
Those, not them.
@@majormanfredrex Do you feel better now ?
@@trevortrevortsr2
First grade teachers always feel good when a student picks up on a point of basic grammar and they take sarcasm in their stride.
I am not much different.
@@majormanfredrex To live in a self-centered narrative must be lonely.
Except it didn't result in any action. Forgemasters did not notify anyone. Kudos to the movie screenwriters for using the name "Forgemasters" which is the actual name of the company involved in the real-life scandal.
I saw this movie yrs ago, Good Movie,
Gerald Bull was alike Wernher von Braun ...