The REAL Truth About Woohoojin
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ค. 2024
- ⭐ Was Woohoojin actually boosted? Did I lie about coaching Woohoojin from Bronze to Radiant? It's time for your favorite Radiant Coach to give his unique spin (expose) on this whole boosting drama!
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• 0:00 ➜ Did I lie about coaching Woohoojin?
• 0:45 ➜ Was Woohoojin actually boosted to Radiant?
• 1:33 ➜ My Valorant History & Private Coaching
• 1:59 ➜ Why did I promote Woohoojin as one of my best students?
• 2:51 ➜ Why did I defend Woohoojin & believed that he got Radiant?
• 5:08 ➜ My Coaching Experience With Woohoojin
• 8:56 ➜ Woohoojin started making Valorant content...
• 10:11 ➜ My Smurfing History (no more smurfing content)
• 11:09 ➜ The Woohoojin Boosting Drama
• 13:10 ➜ The Radiant Coach Ideology
• 14:52 ➜ The Final Conclusion
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• Video is too long and I don't have time to watch it (brief explanation of this situation): prnt.sc/slax5IWuZl8z
• Woohoojin can't be compared to NEACE (the LoL boosted coach) in any capacity! I don't hate NEACE, but his business model is definitely a bit more problematic.
• Woohoojin is definitely more than capable of coaching at least 98% of Valorant players! His "free coaching content" is an extremely valuable asset for players self-improvement and he's always been a positive impact on the whole Valorant community.
• He will most likely hit Radiant on his own without any problems in the following months. But instead of lying, he should've done it himself for the first time on his main account and there are no excuses for this fake representation. Especially because I fully believe that he was more than capable to reach Radiant in 2021. Also, I can't confirm 100% if he got Radiant on some other account or from which account is that "Radiant Screenshot" that he sent me.
• Now, I personally don't know how much of an impact the "Radiant Title & Icon" can have on a monetary value of coaches or content creators. I know that at the start he was offering private coaching that was really expensive (basically 2x more than mine), but no-one can tell if people bought his private coaching because of his persona, knowledge or because of his Radiant rank. If someone is knowledgeable and someone has a proof of players improvement, that's a really good reason to seek the help from that specific person. There's a lot of Radiant players that would be (are) terrible coaches. Coaching is like a skill that requires a specific way of thinking and work ethics that not a lot of people can develop. But on the other hand, if you're buying "Radiant Coaching", you do expect coaching from an actual Radiant player, because that person achieved something that you can't achieve right now.
• I also fully agree with WestJett's take on this whole situation: th-cam.com/video/s_NjGillgE8/w-d-xo.html
• With that being said, can we stop arguing about less important topics and instead turn our focus more towards Riot Games? The community is getting worse by seconds. Matchmaking experience has hit rock bottom. There is enormous amount of boosted players and accounts. Also, at this point even "Heroes Of The Storm" has more content than Valorant. Thank you! ^^
100% Agree!
The hots take is so true it hurts, also i think neace even tho he lied about his rank, he did reach chall in brazill, which is easier but still, as much wrong he did i love how he coaches people but thats prob just me because i fucking hate when the coach tip toes around my ego, when i do something fucking stupid he should say what di you fucking do this man, not maybe that wasn't the best, i got coaching for val once from fiverr and he told me i have radiant mechanics at the time i was bronze and i was crouch spraying everyone..
HotS on top fr
@@ssfrost1337 The best "dead game" ever 😢
@@heon9519 I have nothing against NEACE, because he did make a lot of good content for players improvement in League of Legends. But, him lying about his credentials in combination with his main business model is definitely a bit more problematic than this Valorant situation with Woohoojin...
Hooj also called you the best Valorant coach in the game, respect between you both is clear
yep that's the reason I found this channel
When?
when ?
@@basic2892 it was during the Game changers event or sometime around that.
really?? in what context@@Jinx-iw6zb
I watched woohoojin coaching videos and it helped me reach plat3 from bronze in a year, regardless of his "radiant" title I only see that as marketing but even so he is still a good content creator and free valorant coach available. I didnt get his direct coaching but how he breakdown the students problem and help those stuffs in video is really clear (at least for me)... honestly, he is better coach than a coach that demands you to pay 100$ for crosshair placement coaching (i am broke). I totally agree that woohoojin cant market himself as "radiant coach" because he only reached radiant in that year, but I think people who started or firing up this drama just wanna deny woohoojin success in his coaching career
What do you mean he only reached radiant in that year? He never got radiant. I don’t think people are attacking his coaching, I think people are just saying it’s fraudulent to call yourself a radiant coach when you never achieved the rank. His coaching being good or bad has nothing to do with the issue. The issue is him lying and potentially making financial gain by advertising his radiant status as a coach.
@@Mazzolium I mean, isnt Charla7an heavily hinting that he thinks woohoojin reaching it on an alt account (the screenshot being from before his main account reached radiant and that he supposedly was "radiant skill level")
Most likely you reached plat 3 on your own, it’s not hard, and can be done by actually playing the game. Woohoojin vids maybe helped u 0.1%
Downplay is crazy😭@@Mullaa-uj4kg
@@Mullaa-uj4kgnah not really. I was hardstuck bronze for 2 years. Until I started watching him and in about 4 months reached diamond
I think woohoojin changed the valorant community for the better, I'll be there when he hits radiant but for now I'm watching my favorite ascendant 3 smokes main 💯🗣
He is immortal 1 now
@@omegadoesgames8322 I made this before I hopped in the stream lol
imo he isn't close to radiant, immortal 1-2 is his spot for a while, it takes a significant jump in all kinds of skills to actually be radiant.
@@xXJeReMiAhXx99 i think as his teammates improve he will improve much quicker, he has the radiant mentality, and most of the skill, its quite obvious how team reliant he is to pop off
@@DbzVxteran thats true he would play better with a better team, but i do remember i noticed some things in his gameplay such as repeatedly holding the exact same spot, a radiant will just prefire him. I suppose he could get an actual radiant coach to monitor him and clean those flaws up lol.
You two are already great coaches and have proven it time and time again (ask the students). I believe the community or the valorant scene will not change in any way even if you two are radiant or not. Both great contents, both talented players, both entertaining channels and both full of experience so yeah either way, real ones know the value oof learning the game from you two. Buy their coaching or not, you cannot deny how useful the information they give away especially if you're on the grind like me. Stay humble gorriras!
Post more. You’re gonna blow up. MORE CONSISTENCY 😡
father west is that u?
my favorite everythingphobe
yeah fr him and his editor slacking
nobody loves you
Father has spoken
Good video brother!
Now, what I want to emphasize is that as soon as you done smth. inconvenient for Woohoojin, he cut ties to you really fast. Like really fast. It's like he worhips a few saved views and money more than friendship you're talking about, calling him "friend". But when Woohojin is in the situation much, MUCH worse that you were... You didn't even hesitate to protect him. And you didn't think of cutting ties with him. THAT is the most respectable thing about you.
i think this whole topic is stupid.
tier 1 coaches aren't tier 1 players, they dont need to be to be able to provide tier 1 quality coaching.
at the end of the day, woohoojin has been providing beyond radiant level coaching.
Its True. In many sports from NCAA to Pro level, most of the coaches were not always elite players. Elite players don't always make good coaches. Some of the best coaches never even played in college or pro level, but just understands the game and has a tactical mind. Woohoojin may be an elite coach, but just not an elite player. Its unfortunate that in the gaming community they think that your knowledge holds no merit unless you have reached the highest levels, because that is not the reality. Woohoojin's wrong in all of this was the false advertising, and even though it was wrong, I understand why he felt he had to do it, so that his knowledge would be respected among players that feel that you must be the very best to teach the very best.
the problem isnt that he can't coach to a radiant level. The problem is marketing yourself as a "Radiant coach" several times without reaching it in the first place which means that you just lied to everyone and makes you less credible.
@@phimny2153 I mean to be fair, he also did coach radiants.
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Can’t wait for the day both you and woohoojin are known as the “best valorant coaches”
Love the coaching content but tbh I watch cause ur kinda 🔥
I've been watching woohoojin for a few months and I use to be strictly gold 3 or lower and ever since I watched his videos I've been on a climb, and I'm currently in plat 3 almost diamond, his videos and his mentoring has changed my whole outlook on how I take fights. I love woohoojin
great opening
Nah. Woohoojin has been a net positive for the game. We all make mistakes I don't see this as a reason to "cancel" the guy. Yeah he screwed up and should have done the grind himself, but he is owning it now whether forced or willing. I'm sure he will get radiant. Mostly I appreciate the culture he pushes in valorant even if he didn't always embody it.
1:33 fucking lost it LMAO
I 100% agree that he is a great coach. I just think it’s incredibly messed up to build your entire platform and sell your services around a complete lie
while i agree with the conclusion, i want to point out the exaggerated premise. Woohoojin attained immortal legitimately, which is a majority portion of radiant, giving justified weight to his brand and credibility. I do agree that it was very wrong to get boosted and lie about getting to radiant with the advertising associated with it, but his foundation is not completely false as an high ranked experienced competitive player. He lied to us for sure, but the lie doesnt label him to be a complete phony.
@@ayorea4749 im ngl im prettyr sure hoojin will reach radiant pretty fast he's already back to immo
@@ayorea4749 a lie is a lie. 0 credibility
@@CubeInspector the degree of a lie matters. Woohoojin lied about being radiant, a single rank below what he attained legitimately. Whether that's a big deal to you is for you to decide.
The point is that taking a shortcut to achieve your success is generally VERY frowned upon. It's like a streamer who viewbots. Even if they might make decent content and deserve the viewers they get AFTER they viewbot, they still cheated and took a shortcut to get there. Everything after that point is now tainted.@@ayorea4749
Dont care about the hate at all, take what you can take, which are his lessons and his lessons are free (the youtube contents), and his lessons are legit as well, why hate? if it can help you grow then dont complain
Woohoojin is a positive force for the valorant community regardless of whether he hit radiant or not. I’ve only been ascendant 2, but that still qualifies me to coach 80% of the valorant population (I made this number up and I feel it is probably generous). I really don’t think it matters at the end of the day. Radiant or not, we have seen Woohoojin get immortal 2 and 3 on accounts. Sure it isn’t t500, but it’s statistically likely to be a lot better than whoever is reading this.
Last year when I was still grinding Valorant, in the span of 2 weeks I jumped from Diamond 2 to Asc 3 while watching Woohoojin. Yes, it is a shitty thing to lie about being radiant when it matters and he recognized that and apologized. Haven't played Valo in a while but I just noticed this drama and wanted to give my piece. Maybe not the best player but pretty good coach nonetheless
Also, you sound Balkan-ish, where are you from Charlatan?
I still didn't reveal my nationality...
Love the vid, yeah it’s messed up he lied, he agrees as well. Everyone makes mistakes. He now is against boosting and smurfing. He even got multiple content creators to stop smurfing. I thinks he does need to redeem himself, mostly for his own mental.
that old intro wow, nostalgic
I guess I need to replace the Woohoojin's picture with someone's else until he actually gets Radiant xD
Good job editor
The video was actually 2 hours long, Frost worked over-time in my basement xD
so you showed that woohoojin sent you a pic that he got radiant on august 3rd 2021, august 3rd was e3:a1 but woohoojin got boosted to radiant on his main in e3:a3 which started in november 2nd 2021 which means that he either sent a fake picture that he got radiant for no reason or he got it on another account
dude if he had reached radiant he'd just show proof now instead of admitting he didn't, don't be delusional.
@@xXJeReMiAhXx99 he did say he hit radiant on his alt but said he didnt have vods to back it up hence the reason why he didnt drop the tracker for it ( which does make sense cuz then people would ask him for proof that the account is his lmao).
In the video I've shown all of the evidence that I have from our coaching journey and I really can't confirm from which account is that specific "Radiant Screenshot" that he sent me :/
@@xXJeReMiAhXx99 i didnt say that he definetly hit radiant but i dont see a reason for why would he lie to his coach about hitting radiant. I mean they stopped doing coaching sessions even tho he had a couple left just because he hit radiant
@@swagslime23 same reasons he lies about the rest. I dont need to know his reasoning or personal situation its just a good assumption now to not take his word for it. Nothing more its not important to me
1:09 i actually made it into the Video now i can die in peace 🙏🙏
Don't die brother, you still didn't achieve the ultimate level of virginity - reaching Radiant in Valorant!
@@Charla7an
Completely agree on the morality part, but still think his content is valuable for most people. How many pro team coaches do you think are consistently radiant. Some people just have a better understanding and creative thinking of the game outside of it rather than inside the game
Also a mechanical skill ceiling is another factor in reaching Radiant...
This guy is so good at nonchalantly plugging his other videos. 12:55 the video's topic sounds so interesting and it took two seconds for him to hook me
Actually I've just reached a point where I can't bother anymore to explain the same things over and over again, so I'm just directing people to my content where I've covered a specific topic in-depth. I've been here from 2020. and I've covered 90% of content that is important for Valorant players improvement in ranked environment! ^^
First time watching your video and im wondering...
Brate, jesi li ti iz Novog Sada?
What does it mean if i never hit radiant but I do got a bald spot?
u edit the videos, its almost as stressful as grinding
Editing my videos is an equal achievement xD
I love that the banana is watching live😂
Thanks for the video - yeah I don't really care as that title doesn't mean much considering as you mention 95% of players can benefit from his content and coaching -- I've learned a lot and gotten to G1 from being hard stuck Iron for months so mad respect -- I'm confident he'll hit Radiant
Just want to know what brand and model is that headphones. :D
HarmonicDyne Zeus Elite - a bit expensive, but worth every penny! ^^
@@Charla7an thanks for replying my GOAT! Been on the audio rabbit hole lately that's why I asked. Will definitely add this to my wishlist!
ty i like ur opinion and its very important to me
I got ban for saying smurfing can help to get beter they ban me for smurfing I never smurfed. Just understand if you playing against some one good after losing over and over you get good it’s like Elden ring you get killed over and over until you get good. Woohoojon discord most toxic people that think they know everything it’s like a cold ya there was way to dispute my ban but I need to proof I didn’t smurf how the hell can you proof this. 😂😂😂
Anyone know what headphones Charlatan uses?
Linsoul HarmonicDyne Zeus Elite Wired Over-Ear Headphone, Flagship 50mm Suspension Diaphragm Open Back Headset, with 2 Custom IEM Cable for Audiophile Musician (Zeus Elite)
HarmonicDyne Zeus Elite, to be honest one of the best headphones that I've used! ^^
@@Charla7an thanks been needed a replacement for my 10 year old A50s
Where are you from? Your accent sounds very Serbian/Croatian
I love your videos taking other agents to immortal and considering that Woohoojin is taking raze to radiant as a controller main. I think he is capable of starting to hit radiant every six months or so.
I said this before on anothers channels.
Even if he isnt radiant, the quality is still there. Its better than most self proclaimed coaches and he doesnt charge.
He was charging for "private coaching" at the start and that's why a lot of people are mad, because he was promoting it as a "Radiant Coaching" service.
But, regardless if coaching is "free" or "paid", the quality of coaching is what actually matters in order to justify the price or time that you invest into someone's content.
Why dont you record your coaching like woojihin does
Charlatan has a second channel where he reviews VODs
What i am watching charlatan for so long i dont khow that what's the name of the channel
He doesn’t record coaching sessions because he is very personal with his teachings and has to know you as a player. He gave me my own routine and trainings to do as well as how to improve over time as fast as possible. But he does give the basics to some students but those kinds of tips he has already said in his videos or he has documented on his discord and files that are accessible to students. They are highly detailed and very informative. I strongly recommend him over woohoojin. Woohoojin and his mods aren’t really that nice… at least they weren’t to me. And he doesn’t tolerate questioning his methods 🙄
@akaciux God dayum
youtube.com/@charla7anvods?si=JRQBuHH9jW6JDJ86
Charlatan Valorant Coaching is the channel
So youre saying its impossible to reach radiant easily right?
What do you mean? xD
@@Charla7an now I am confused why I wrote it 😅
ive never seen someone playing valorant and instead of looking like loser looking like he plays chess like magnus
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Good job fr0st
wooj is my favorite ascendant coach
I loved Woohoojin's videos, especially his early content.
However recently I've noticed a big shift in his content, it went from cold hard facts, and clear ways on how to improve, to now constantly contradicting himself and giving advice I'd consider genuinely bad.
I'm confused why you Charlatan care about defending woohoojin so much? From what it looks to me, he was super cold and harsh to you, "gotta cut ties" and all, and then doubles back, its super weird behaviour from him. His coaching style unlike yours which has a much more solid fundamental understanding, is focused on details, and semantics that sometimes work in specific contexts, however more often than not is actually bad advice.
I started writing why in my opinion wooj is annoying, and it got a bit long so I'll section this out in case whoever is reading wants to skip .
-- Mini Wooj rant --
It actually hurts to watch his videos nowadays, as its a husk of what the content used to be. And on his streams from when I've checked them out, he plays like a plat/diamond player in terms of gamesense, but his aim carries him, contrary to how he claims his aim is his "weakness".
He still has nuggets of helpful ideas in his recent videos, but its surrounded by useless/harmful information that the viewer is going to have to manually sift through themselves.
ALSO !
He's extremely egotistical and hypocritical which makes all these issues even worse. He'll tell people in the reviews how stupid they are if they're not coordinating with their team, and how its never the teammates fault, its yours.
Then when he plays, "Ahhhh what are they dooooooooooooing??"
Constant complaints, and its never his fault.
And when he does critique a genuine issue the player has, he picks up on the most random small issue. Instead of the elephant in the room that's making almost all the plays the player is attempting to do fail. For example, he critiques the poor timing the player had with his teammate on a swing, for a single fight.
For starters, wooj himself has pretty terrible timing from when ive seen him play.
Second, even if the player did time perfectly, it wouldn't have mattered, since his crosshair was in off in narnia despite knowing exactly where his target was, and we've already seen from prior gameplay the player can't flick. And there was a second enemy on heaven looking right at the player.
There were so many other areas to focus on, for example if a player is dashing to gen like that, we need to take a few steps back and review the game at a more basic level.
Don't get me wrong, teamwork is crucial to work on, but it wasn't the key thing holding this player back, not even top 10.
His teamwork was on par with all the other players in his rank. And the rank above.
The last part to the mini wooj rant is what I personally find to be most annoying, but I don't expect many to agree.
His free coaching vods is a generous offer, and when first started was a really cool thing. I also think its a pretty big step for all those people giving their vods for wooj to review. They're going out of their comfort zones and being quite vulnerable in order to improve.
In return?
"It took you 11 bullets to kill him..... thats ridiculous."
"What are you doooooooooooing?"
"Cmonnnnnn what are you doooooooooing? You know they're halls?"
Basically bulling and shaming with hardly any constructive / useful information. 90% of the info he gives is not how to improve, but rather smurf on the enemies. Like yeah sure a tp up top might work in diamond/Asc or whatever, but that advice has no context, so when the person being reviewed tries to extrapolate these concepts and starts losing, their not going to have any idea why.
-- Mini Wooj rant end --
I think there's a really short supply of quality coaching videos, and I think you're one of them. But I'd be curious to hear other peoples perspectives! I might've missed some things or arrived to incorrect conclusions.
Well, when you put in this perspective - it does seem bad xD
I don't watch a lot of other content creators because I don't have a lot of free time, so a lot of these opinions on Woohoojin are completely new to me...
I was defending him purely based on my experience with him and on the bits of his coaching that I saw! ^^
And I've said that I do disagree on around 20% to 30% of his coaching method...
@@Charla7an That's fair! I'd be curious to hear your thoughts once you've reviewed his more recent content !
I'll be reacting soon to his new coaching content & overall gameplay - new video incoming regarding this topic! ^^
Factos 👀
its weird cause most of the t1 coaches dont even hit radiant
Actually true, you really don't NEED to be a Radiant in order to be a coach! ^^
But, it definitely gives you more credibility...
i had a hammerhead shark as a pet, he looked like you. He sadly passed from brain cancer
Why did all coaches decide to talk about hooji at the same time?!
Because he recently got exposed and it was the main story? xD
Remember Niko' No bananas
He looks like a former russian csgo pro
The really annoying part about this whole issue is that hooj is against smurfing but had a radiant smurf on his immo acc.
I absolutely agree with this take...
no hate to anyone but what i dont under is right no woohoojin is doing a raze to radiant and he is dropping 20 - 25 kills a game that ive seen in immo 2 so why is it demined that he is a good coach?
Wohoojin clearly understands the game, but it's easier to be said than done. This is the reason why there's a term "coach don't play".
The top 1% grinds so hard they have to focus on specific goal. That is normal and expected.
I really dunno what is going on but I watched all video (still dunno)
All that matters is that he lied on the internet and profited from it...and its only fair he face the consequences.
I started watching woohojin when I wanted to improve, soon I noticed that this guy is kinda weird. His ego is way too big, sometimes pretentious, and he treats his community like an echo chamber not being able to admit if he is wrong. He literally degrades and laughs at people he is "coaching" for likes while sacrificing quality of coaching. Also he is a whiteknight and and doesnt know when to just shut up. I only started improving after watching charlatan and hit immo after a few months.
So if Woohoojin has 3 accounts that he says he has gotten immortal with it's okay, but if Charla7an gets another account to do content, it's not okay? 10:14
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@@Charla7an I love you.
I've known about your videos ever since like episode 2 or something, but switched over to Hooj's videos (before the drama) because of his more consistent upload schedule. I do like your approach and style of coaching much more but you don't post a lot so it's not as useful of a resource for me. I understand this is because you want your paid coaching to have more value but some of us are broke gamers. I don't really want to follow Hooj anymore after the drama but also now I don't have any other consistent coaches on youtube so it's quite a sad time to be a SoloQ Valorant player
the "drama" doesnt really matter
the guys a good coach
if he provides good information what he does outside of coaching is irrelevant lmao
they say coach dont play he could be diamond and he'd still be revered as a coach
and highkey the drama isnt that deep he got boosted still a good player just not the best
C7N does really have a lot of ongoing coaching content consistently on other platforms Twtich and TikTok
@@littlehamham3281 it doesn't matter to you. This is the same logic like just because Chris Brown beats women or Kanye West is racist that doesn't mean you have to stop listening to his music. But for some people it does matter.
I lost a lot of respect for Woohoojin. It is one thing to lie and get caught and admit you were wrong. But him doubling down on the lie by claiming he still has a secret Radiant account that he can't reveal is just all time perpetual liar copium and I no longer respect him. Yes, that doesn't take away form his coaching ability, but I'm not watching someone who will blatantly lie and gaslight his supporters even after being caught.
@@cjjones633 sooo... you don't respect someone because they lied about something? wtf? everybody lies. Sure, he lied which isn't the best, but he certainly isn't a horrible person. You should praise people for doing the right thing yes, but you shouldn't criticise people for not doing the most right thing there is - I bet he's a much nicer person than you. Is it so bad to lie to his supporters to save his own skin? Everyone has done that once in their life: it doesn't deserve moral outrage. He's not scamming his supporters nor providing bad coaching. Does it really matter that he lied? Thinking you have moral superiority over others is much worse than simple self-preservation. You think being "moral" is so easy: the point is that you have to work at it. So why be outraged when people fail to do it? We're just human. And dissociating from others just because they did one tiny thing wrong is morally wrong tbh. FYI, it is reasonable to dissociate from people who have done actual horrible things like abuse, murder, rape - and the fact you compare a lie to this is actually insane.
And here you are blaming the poor fella above for his choice of not watching Woohoojin anymore. I agree with him. Let him do whatever, and you do you. @@robr7815
wanna profit off someone whos been diamond for 1000+hours
Woohoojin got me from gold 1 to Diamond 1 in half a year just by watching Omen videos. Radiant or not, he's legit.
Wait until you see the "Ranked Playbook" for Omen on my discord server xD
he just get caught duoing in "soloq to radiant" 💀💀
Yeah I saw the apology video and everything...
I will give my 2 cents on my next stream! ^^
Any valorant content creator coach that does not Show his stats and plays the game regularly is sus'
you can view his stats on valorant tracker, he aint gatekeeping anything
Woohoojin is forgivable, sure he got boosted to radiant but as far as i'm concerned, there are far worse crimes to be called out from elsewhere, i'd rather have someone be boosted than to smurf in low elo games
To me, he's done way too much good in the community from coaching alone that we can let this incident slide. I'm not trying to promote boosting since it's not good and ruins queues.
In conclusion, I believe we could just let this slide and hope he's learned his lesson from this since he's still a great coach most especially to new players trying to pick up the game which can help the game grow to better heights.
I agree, however the flaw with this point is simply that the act of boosting an account is the same as smurfing elo lower than yours. Whoever is doing the boosting is smurfing no matter how you look at it. But I definitely agree that it really doesn’t matter at the end of the day for Woohoojin. He’s awesome and he is going to get radiant anyway
@@razgrizfps imm 3-radiant isnt really smurfing or like high imm 2 i think where his account was in. The lobbies are the exact same for most part especially back when it happened
thats cool and all but you dont need to have any high rank at all to be a good coach just a good amount of knowledge playing and watching the game a ton, but words like radiant sell better
I absolutely agree on this take as well! ^^
How can you consider Hooj a friend when he called u a piece of shit for smurfing. Unless he apologised I guess.
He also in the same breath Said you were the best Omen coach so It aint all bad 😂
he could've been saying it in a joking manner
I fully understand his stance against smurfing, and I have nothing against what he said! ^^
We just have different views when it comes to certain topics...
@ildna He didn't. He reluctantly pointed someone he was coaching in the direction of Charla7an only because he is by far the best Omen Player/Coach. Saying he doesn't like the guy, but he is the best.
@Charla7an Fair enough, none of us like smurfing. Maybe he didn't want to be associated with you in case it affected his own channel.
That being said, where I come from, we stand by our friends. If anyone was so quick to throw me under the bus, I would exclude them from my circle immediately.
Not trying to stir hate, brother. Just a genuine thought. I also don't know what goes on behind the scenes. Long time viewer, love the content. Charla7an > Everyone else.
so ure telling me the guy that has a decade of experience in esports needed coaching to go from bronze to plat? and he has this mysterious alt no one has ever found? comical.
“Needed” probably isn’t the right term. And that decade of experience wasn’t in FPS games. Also, during that “decade of experience” he got coaching in the game(s) he played.. Comical is thinking you made some point here.
Actually, this proves that he has a decade of experience in eSports and that he did reach high ranks in other games as well.
Because the fastest way to learn something or to grow in some field is to surround yourself with people that are more experienced than you.
Anyone who reached high ranks in any game understands that you improve significantly faster when you play with and against better players.
He didn't have any experience in FPS tactical games, so it seems logical that he's going to seek help from someone that is far more experienced than him.
If I wanted to reach "Grand Master" in Rocket League, I'd definitely get coaching from someone as soon as possible in order to understand that game in and out.
That experience would help me to speed up the process of my improvement, and to instantly work on implementing only the good habits within my gameplay!
Early
naahhh woohoojin is shameless
Who needs to radiant to be a radiant coach? That shit is stupid!!
so you've never met people who lie out of embarrassment or shame guilt ? u just believe everyone when they tell you something?
Generally I have a very pessimistic & paranoid approach to life, and usually I don't believe anything until I personally double check it myself! ^^
But in this case, I explained very well in the video why I believed Woohoojin that he got Radiant when he sent me that screenshot...
I feel hooj overall is a liar
His boomer to diamond is impossible, and i swear on joc’s yt accout he shown a past account diamond at episodd 2
Yet he met hooj episode 5
And dr turnip has been stuck silver for 3 episodes…….
same with kaiser he barely hit plat after 5 episodes
Yet JOC HIT DIAMOND IN 2 EPISODES
Gtfo
And jpc is mia now
AND hooj wont coach anyone else to diamond, why? (Oh cause if they quit….)
THEN SHOW THEM ON STREam THEY quit
no coach has shown how to truly climb ranks
Its all a scam
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It was pretty evident banana man was a snake when he tried shading Tarik for smurfing... 😂
Karma is a bitch
don’t see enough people talking about this, idc if he’s a good coach or not, bro simply just needs to get off his high horse
How are those two events even remotely related?
@@JustMatchmaking he called Tarik a hypocrite when he's the one scamming people. L fraud 🤣
@@zvzzbzzdy I mean, he's still not wrong. It is still hypocritical to complain about quality of play while actively participating in ruining quality of play. Clearly Charlatan agrees on that point, considering he quit the unranked to Immo series full stop and made it into something else.
@@JustMatchmaking you're missing the point by a mile. Calling people out on their shit when you're doing something far worse is what's actually hypocritical.
th-cam.com/video/a-ZSlOYSPLQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=pZfM8rgTPoe4AME7
This is why I don’t like him. In this video he just bullies this poor guy and doesn’t really help him.
gotta be a bait
I believe he was trying to demonstrate to the low ranked player that his aim is not the only factor holding him back and that there are other factors that are used into predicting how your enemy will play. He tries to make his coaching memorable (albeit from another standpoint it does look mean) instead of getting basic stuff like "yeah make sure your crosshair is level and aim for the head"
This video he released later on shows how to approach gunfights with better movement: th-cam.com/video/nV0WDAHrqls/w-d-xo.htmlsi=6sUQEpZKAHoLyEzZ.
He was just trying to expand his horizon on how to take gunfights the guy might not even need an explanation on how to take gunfights better because he was just so unaware whoohoojin made him aware and that alone might bee enough to shoot him in the right direction some people just need concepts and will absolutely dominate just from knowing it whoohoojin probably made that guys day actually
Holy brain dead
This was actually the first of his videos I was ever recommended lol
At first I'll be honest I also kind of got the ick from it but the more of his videos I watched the more I warmed up to him. I think early videos like that one aren't as good because he wasn't very good at articulating things as well yet so it comes off as mean. I think he's learned from it, I haven't seen something like that from him in a really long time. If you don't like him for other reasons that's fine, but if that was your sole reason for not liking him it might be worth to open up to his newer more polished stuff.
Imagine paying for coaching in a f2p computer game 😂
But you also need to put yourself in a perspective of players that want to go PRO or maybe become content creators! ^^
first comment pin pls
congrats on the pin bro 💀
162 views in 8 mins….. bro really fell off😅
hatewatcher comment within 3 mins tho
imo still better than lying and still trying to profit off of a 'redemption arc'
@@swegdoge bro is a good coach and u play like iron soo ig wooj is ur destination?😂
@@HellGuardian-el6cx he's a good coach and very knowledgeable. i'm just put off by the lying