I interpreted Valya's first use of Voice on her brother Griffin *not* as compelling his limbs to move *without* him knowing how to swim, but as compelling them to move *even though* they had frozen stiff in shock because of the icy water.
If I remember correctly, Bene Gesserit sisters/reverend mothers are *not* clairvoyant. They *are*, however, extremely observant - and reverend mothers can use insights from Other Lives to "remember" things about places and objects, as well as recognizing patterns and making perceptive inferences. That being said, a reverend mother who is also a descendant of Paul Atreides is probably going to have a little extra ability in this area.
@@persephonebasilissa5109 oooooooooook that makes sense! THANK YOU for that piece of information!!! Anytime you have extra information on this universe I would love to hear it!!!
Enjoying your reactions. The Harkonnens have been a noble family for centuries if not millennia before the story. Their fall from grace happened because Vorian Atredeis allegedly lied about their great grandfather being a coward or war criminal during a pivotal battle. The Harkonnens lost their wealth and were banished to the whale planet. Valya who has never known a life outside of the whale planet is clearly very bitter about what happened and proud of her heritage.
No, Valya wouldn't be scared because she might see her brother. Reverend mothers only see their female ancestors directly. That's what makes a kwisatz haderach like Paul special: he has access to *ALL* of his ancestors. Also, Griffin is her brother, not her father or grandfather....
Oh, wow. I don't believe the Sisterhood was ever trying to promote or support the Golden Path. That was entirely an Atreides Kwisatz Haderach thing that relied on their own absolute power over humanity, cutting the Sisterhood's influence to virtually nil. All *they* had on the Golden Path was crumbs!
I interpreted Valya's first use of Voice on her brother Griffin *not* as compelling his limbs to move *without* him knowing how to swim, but as compelling them to move *even though* they had frozen stiff in shock because of the icy water.
@@persephonebasilissa5109 ohhhhhh ok ok I see what your saying that makes a lot of sense
If I remember correctly, Bene Gesserit sisters/reverend mothers are *not* clairvoyant. They *are*, however, extremely observant - and reverend mothers can use insights from Other Lives to "remember" things about places and objects, as well as recognizing patterns and making perceptive inferences.
That being said, a reverend mother who is also a descendant of Paul Atreides is probably going to have a little extra ability in this area.
@@persephonebasilissa5109 oooooooooook that makes sense! THANK YOU for that piece of information!!! Anytime you have extra information on this universe I would love to hear it!!!
Enjoying your reactions. The Harkonnens have been a noble family for centuries if not millennia before the story. Their fall from grace happened because Vorian Atredeis allegedly lied about their great grandfather being a coward or war criminal during a pivotal battle. The Harkonnens lost their wealth and were banished to the whale planet. Valya who has never known a life outside of the whale planet is clearly very bitter about what happened and proud of her heritage.
@@idranhei6720thanks I really appreciate you saying that!!! And ok ok thanks for that info! Do you think they will show how they rise back to power?
Wow, Tula is more ruthless than Valya.
The Harkonnen's made their first fortune trading whale fur.
@ SHE IS A SAVAGE LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL we were like nawwww you can’t tell Tula nothing after that 😭😭😭
Valya is cold and calculating, but Tula is ruthless.
No, Valya wouldn't be scared because she might see her brother. Reverend mothers only see their female ancestors directly. That's what makes a kwisatz haderach like Paul special: he has access to *ALL* of his ancestors. Also, Griffin is her brother, not her father or grandfather....
@@persephonebasilissa5109 good point as well!!! I forgot it’s only Paul that has access to all the ancestors male and female
Oh, wow. I don't believe the Sisterhood was ever trying to promote or support the Golden Path.
That was entirely an Atreides Kwisatz Haderach thing that relied on their own absolute power over humanity, cutting the Sisterhood's influence to virtually nil.
All *they* had on the Golden Path was crumbs!
Oh really??? I don’t know why I thought they were trying to achieve it as well