You handled yourself well. The "Travel Safe" goons tried their best to be intimidating but come across as bullies and like all bullies when their intimidation fails go running to daddy (BTP). The BTP guy whilst sounding professional and proper failed at everything. Asking for your name after you had said it multiple times shows that he wasn't listening and his single brain cell was busy trying to recite the training script. Totally understand why you gave details so that you could get home, the fight can take place later in a civil court, no need to waste your time when your kids are more important than a minor principle.
May aswell have licked BTP's boots and wiped his glasses, tell them where ur children rest their heads at night, Fail by Charlie who is still a top man regardless. But yeah hold this L
th-cam.com/video/00GKTFuAs1k/w-d-xo.html That's gangstalking. It's like the wicker man. People who hang around without purpose. Or if you 50 people who get in your personal space clicking pens & shit
@@CharlesVeitch He didn’t fully read the bylaw he must have skipped this part : The authorised person asking for details under Byelaw 23(1) shall state the nature of the breach of any of these Byelaws in general terms at the time of the request.
@@CharlesVeitch so which of these offences did you commit Mr Veitch? It will be lot easier if you Confess 😂 6. Unacceptable behaviour 1 No person shall use any threatening, abusive, obscene or offensive language on the railway. 2 No person shall behave in a disorderly, indecent or offensive manner on the railway. 3 No person shall write, draw, paint or fix anything on the railway. No person shall soil any part of the railway. 4 No person shall damage or detach any part of the railway. 5 No person shall spit on the railway. 6 No person shall drop litter or leave waste on the railway. 7 No person shall molest or wilfully interfere with the comfort or convenience of any person on the railway.
A pretty depressing watch and an accurate summation of where we are in UK 2022. Patronising bloke with camera, over zealous transport staff and gangsta mansdem in stuff bought by mummy needlessly getting involved. Grim.
@Psil0 yeah cheers for that. I'm fully aware of my rights and how to exercise them. I crack on with life in a positive manner and don't look to needlessly engineer conflicts such as this simply to provide content and validate my existence. This video is depressingly reflective of where we are in the UK 2023. Hordes of people with over inflated notions of their own self importance speaking to even more people who are hard of thinking who then put these TH-camrs on a demi-pedestal. If it works for you then that's cool, I'm not a huge fan of telling people what to think and what to do....
@Psil0 outrage? I'm not outraged at all (and don't think any of the language I used suggested that?), it's more a weariness and a dejection at the way we are heading as a society which is amplified by the likes of yer man here, carefully beginning his video as he walks off the train to add maximum juice to his persecution complex and to feed his audience. Listen, I can see you sing from the same hymn sheet as him and good luck to you. I'd rather look to people who choose to help their local communities with positive initiatives in the real world, than a bloke mugging off to camera, desperately seeking clicks under some laughable cloak of doing this for the greater good. Like I said, good luck to you, been good to exchange views.
Be careful of false allegations. I saw a man with his camera once in a park in central Dublin and somebody ill-disposed towards him called him a paedophile. Dangerous times with social media
While you're absolutely right, it's even more reason to keep 'filming anything we choose in our lives' the honest, legal thing that it is. It's when a stigma gets attached to normal actions that we withdraw further into fear and imprisonment. After all if filming public events is inherently bad, why is every company, organisation and government doing it everywhere? incessantly. I know you're not suggesting such, but when something is done with love and honesty, we should always defend it.
There's a difference between false allegations and acting up on a train to initiate contact with these guys. Then he's used it to prove they're bullies. Its one thing to keep an eye on people like this, it's quite another to engineer these encounters in an attempt to make them look bad. He clearly knew he did something and that they were waiting at the station because he was filming before it started. He set it up to go down like that.
@@reiverraider4887 That was the point. Charlie hasn't done anything unlawful but developed a situation to expose the authoritarian actions of this private security company that has no standing in the law.
Yes suspicion of crime leads to investigations and arrest if you do not comply which is correct. Let's say some touched your mrs and you complained to the security guard and police came. What would you expect to happen, just let them go because its only an allegation. Grow up guys
@@paulbarrow2497 But suspicion by itself is not a crime, you dont get arrested for 'no crime', you dont help the police investigate yourself, as you say, ''leads to investigation and possible arrest'' later
It’s an allegation….FFS he obviously has had no training whatsoever in the art of investigation skills and has failed miserably in asking the right questions.He is out of his depth.
Precisely.... an allegation is just that, not proof, not a charge, not a conviction. The first words out of our mouths in this situation are, " who is the complainant?" and " are you detaining or arresting me?".
I served twenty years as a Guard with British Rail and I have never known anything like this. In my job I had to take a three hour verbal entrance examination which was re-taken every two years. I had to work alone and I was armed with only a whistle, detonators and ticket nippers. We didn't have fools wandering round with all that gear stuck to their fronts and a bad attitude. Even in my day the British Transport Police were rather incompetent and stupid and I have to admit that I enjoyed running rings around them when they got things wrong or tried to get out of doing their jobs properly or refusing to act on my instructions. I've had many a laugh when recalling the antics of the BTP in cities around the country and how I left them speechless after confronting me with BS. They really do take on that job because they are incapable of doing anything else. As for these new clowns on the block, we don't need goons. We need porters and chargemen back, we need barriers for entry and exit points not electronic gates. A lot of crime is committed onboard a train and we used to deal with it swiftly, that's why the Guard is there and we would only call the police to take somebody away as a last resort after the individual persisted. Most criminal types think that they can get away with crimes committed on a train and are taken aback when they don't, but even more staggering is the incompetence of the BTP. I would have to spend hours writing reports and preparing evidence for the court. Prevention is better than cure.
Words like commonsense, decorum, responsibility, duty, respect and many others have been deleted from the common lexicon, in an amoral "anything" goes laissez-faire world you get degeneracy, it's not a mistake, I have seen the rot set since the mid 60s.
@@David-ci1vn Another person who speaks sense. I wasn't born until much later but have seen that happen. I wonder what it will take to have a civilised society.
@@CAROLS9995 " I wonder what it will take to have a civilised society.", the willingness to say "no", to challenge, debate, be involved politically at every level ofrom the street to the hoghest state offices, it is said that we get the government we deserve, clearly we don't currently deserve very much.
@@David-ci1vn Agree. Exactly, we don't as we refuse to learn from history and do things differently. People in the UK complain about current government, yet they keep getting voted for.
“I want to be a police officer” Sorry you’ll be crap at it “I want to be a PCSO” Sorry you’ll be crap at it “I want to be a travel safety officer” OK but you’ll be crap it........
I’m a former police officer - here are your options with police “Are you a police officer?” “No” You leave. “Are you a police officer?” “Yes” Start recording on your phone, then ask - “Can I see ID, and take your constabulary, surname and badge number?” They must provide this Inform them that if they conduct themselves unlawfully you will provide video evidence, lodge a formal complaint, take the video evidence to your solicitor and take them to court Then ask - “Am I detained?” “No” You leave If they inform you that you are detained, then you must comply with what they are doing, but you should still record and also ideally get witnesses around you. They must inform you of the reason for you being detained. If they do not, then they are acting unlawfully. Once they inform you that you are detained, the best thing you can do is to remain absolutely silent, only asking for legal representation as soon as possible.
I'm betting Charlie lost his shit with someone on the train who tried to tell him what to do (might have had something to do with masks maybe) am I a million miles away?
or he might have put his camera in their face uninvited when they just wanted a quiet ride home on the train.. or some combination of or variation on the above..
Wow those "travel safe" guys or whatever they're called are absolute goons. This country along with others is constantly and progressively p1ssing me off with all of these pathetic jobs being created. I get people have to pay the bills, etc but what pricks they are!
I didn't know these guys existed. Sub-PCSO levels of authority, training and intellect, yet have the power through their actions to potentially put a serious "spanner in the works" re an innocent someone's life by setting in motion their arrest. An absolute disgrace and a true sign of everything wrong with policing in this country.
The apparent (self-appointed) head goon stinks of failing to qualify for uni, living at home with mummy and mid-20s virginity. Exactly the sort of below average bitter tool who'd look for this kind of job. Didn't he call Charlie an idiot? I'd file a complaint about that, if only to waste his and his superiors time (time they could be using to harass the public)
@@desperatemohammedantheworl5833 Yh, it makes me angry sometimes when I think about it bud. Bring back the 90's anyday for me, as things just seem to be getting worse!
Unfortunately it's the actions of a significant minority of the travelling public and their being able to conduct themselves in an orderly manner that has necessitated the need for the Travel Safe Officers. The railway is merely reacting to circumstances by creating these positions. Most travelling passengers, and station users, are blissfully unaware of the Railway Bylaws. Why? Because they do no engage in inappropriate behaviour and do not draw attention to themselves in a negative way. Unfortunately a small number do and their behaviour has a disproportionate effect on the rest - and the staff that have to deal with it. From anti social behaviour to fare evasion. Taking regular rail staff away from their operational duties to deal with these matters impacts negatively on the service provision so dedicated bylaw enforcement teams have been created. This is at the behest of many stakeholders in the railway including the unions, passenger groups, & station retailers. Unfortunately they are necessary, some might say a necessary evil, but necessary nonetheless. Now, to the matter at hand. An allegation was made against Charlie Veitch, probably to the guard on the train, he has been unable to resolve the matter amicably, has deemed the allegation worthy of further investigation, and has requested assistance. What the allegation is about is unknown, and crucially to the Travel Safe Officers is unknown to them until they have discussed matters with both parties. A normal passenger with nothing to hide would be very keen, IMO, to "clear" his name and most would engage with the staff. Normally at that many allegations mysteriously dissappear as the complainer decides that THEY don't want the hassle when offered the chance to make it "offical". Things happen, often these situations are just "something & nothing". Life moves on. However, when the person, against whom an allegation is made, does not engage that raises the suspicions of the persons tasked with investigating the matter. When you come across as defensive people will assume that you have something to defend (or hide). Basic psychology. Ultimately Charlie himself escalated matters until, under duress, he was forced to give his name & address. He could have done so to the Travel Safe Officers at the start, then disengaged and been on his merry way. He does not have to defend, nor explain, his actions - it's up to the complainer to establish that. I don't know what the allegation was about however let's create a scenario. I've seen Charlie kick & push members of the public before, in all cases justifiable. Now, let's say Charlie is filming on the train and a passenger takes exception and attempts to take Charlie's camera from him with force. Charlie defends himself by pushing the passenger away. As it is on a moving train the passenger loses his balance and falls over. The passenger accuses Charlie of assault & there are other, independent, witnesses who corroborate his account. NB for this scenario these witnesses are not lying but are giving a truth account from their perspective (e.g. they were not in a position to see the original attempted camera grab). So, now we have created an incident (for the avoidance of doubt I'm not suggesting this actually happened) worthy of investigation. In this case if an assault took place the person involved would generally not wish to engage and may try to flee the scene. It is incumbent on the investigators to establish the facts -
I have never hear of a travel safe officer before. Initially I thought they were British Transport Police.... but they are just national rail employees with a god complex
Gangstalking is one of my top 5 fav overly crazy conspiracy topics, nice of Charlie to capture it's actual existence. And the perps are actually paid police cosplay actors. 😱
I mean these corporations literally admit they do it to people on ted talks so there is no conspiracy. Its a real event and it happens. Sadly most people it happens to are drug addicts. But that's also who they target. In my home town even the fire department admit to harassing people they dont like. Seen them cutting dogs off there leashes and making the dogs run away because they simply didn't like the owner.
I'm unclear about whether you didn't do anything or whether you did something and you are having a laugh that you got away with it. I understand that a person is innocent until proven guilty and I think the 'security' people should be better trained, but my son was racially abused on a train as a kid and it makes me feel a bit sick that had someone challenged the bastard he could have just had a laugh and posted it on TH-cam. Tricky to understand what is happening. Is this clip just for your followers who know the backstory?
the cop says he has not threatened you or attempted to take away your liberty , that he was just asking you for your details but a minute earlier he said he would arrest you and take you to the station if you don't provide your details, how is that not a threat :P
You can get arrested if you don’t give your details when asked by a police officer that’s the law, the officer was been nice and didn’t want to go there but he can by law…..so when asked for your details you must give them or get arrested…..don’t play stupid game or your ego will get you in drama 🎭 you don’t need in your life…..
Charlie, I'm in the us. This goes on with elderly residents of an independent living facility for the elderly whom are only plain clothes volenteers ... the stalking. Grabbing for my dog or other protruding artifacts I might be carrying. It's insane. Then they get all upset if I avert or ward them off .
Well Charlie you let that police officer trample all over your rights , I'm very disappointed with you. Human rights act article 6, 8 and 10 went right out of the window !!!
@asmuchuseasachocolate teapot Haven't heard anything since the trolls took his chanel down mate.I miss his channel too liked listening to him put the world to rights.Have a good one.
No, because he's too arrogant to even consider that he might be responsible. Look at his slimy smirk to the camera when speaking to the officer. He obviously feels that he is WAY too important. 🙄
I think you guys are missing the whole point? He KNOWS him being in certain areas and certain situations are going to cause issues like the one in the video above, BUT the whole point is he is intentionally putting himself in that position to educate the viewers on how to deal with a situation like this so we don't get caught out if/when this happens to us (the viewers) Normal everyday citizens are too quick to bow to being asked to leave a public place when we do not have too, we are also too quick to give our details when we do not have too (unless the officer has been informed of an allegation like in the above video) For instance if you are randomly walking along a public place filming (legally) and an officer approaches and asks who you are, where you live, what your upto etc etc you do not have to interact and give any personal details. That's basically the whole point in him posting this video and has nothing to do with him "looking for trouble" It's to educate. Just like when he helps tourists or people who might not be aware that they have the opportunity to pick up litter when they drop it instead of standing giving personal details to the laughable 3GS litter patrol and paying a £120 fine that is basically being dished out by scammers in uniforms. Keep watching and stay educated 👍🏻
This is Victoria station, entrance to Manchester arena. Now imagine if the security acting how they did here towards the bomber. Cowards who have blood on their hands
Seeing how this police officer speaks to Charlie and the way GMP speak to him, it's night and day. I hope more police forces learn how to treat the general public with respect.
Charlie, what's the back story. What on earth happened on the train. My guess is you pissed off an NPC for not wearing a mask. Anyway, well done for standing your ground.
Yeah Come On Charlie...... What happened...... It's clear you've been shouting at some people on the Train and making a bit of a Spectacle man.... We know that's what you do.... We watch your videos .... Fair play- if Dave got a camera on the train, they can Show the whole world if they want. If there's no Cams, No evidence, No crime.... Well no... actually. That works in theory, but if you have corroborated witnesses, Let's say 5 people saying you did something and all their stories are the same, and you were in Court, 5 Against 1, then obviously It would be Highly likely to play out in their favour, Even if they were lying. That's just the way it works. Unless the Judge had a Very Clear picture of the situation, which they may well do. Anyway, I'm sure nothing will come of it. If you were just shouting at people on the train, then It could well have been justified- that depends on the specific situation. Having relative fame also plays into consideration for determining Justice. I know that you don't want to Label whatever happened as an 'incident'. Of course, Nobody wants that to happen when they're deemed to be the one causing it, but there are always people who are at different places on the Relative Scale, when it comes to what they believe is Right and Wrong, Good and Bad, Just and Unjust. When you're the Sting in the Scorpions tail, of course you get a ripple effect, of other people's reaction. So being the Sting comes back with Exponential Stings from all angles..... Damn, what can I say? Try to be something other than a Scorpion
@@kd2226 You must be knew to Charlie if you ain't heard that one, he's been around a good 20 years or more now, famous for lying about the guy who the coppers knocked down and killed in London, they thought he'd beeb drinking but was having a diabetic episode.
@global pulse or maybe it's weird to have a camera out on public transport? this guy goes out, and films daily life. he's not gunna show the boring stuff is he?
Gonna ask the question no one else is prepared to ask you...Where is the rest of the video? You never go anywhere without recording! What are you trying to hide?
This guy isn't even a cop and he has authority issues. But that is the sickness right? People having authority over others always leads to power trips.
If the police ask for your details you can refuse under the premise that you are not obliged to incriminate yourself. If the police DO suspect you of committing a crime then they must read you your rights then arrest you. Then you say nothing till you have a lawyer .. you'll be out a few hours. No judge in their right mind will punish you with zero evidence of a crime commited.
hardly matey he played it right the officer would have nicked him only a mug would get arrested for a byelaw offence the BTP have alot more clout than normal forces they have a byelaw covering everything and the rail companies have a zero tolerance
@@at6027 Notice one thing, the officer is desperate to get him back on BTP property. They have no jurisdiction to enforce bylaws outside the boundary of the byelaw area, they only apply in the railway Property. He folded, like above, like a pack of cards. Shame, thought he had more gumption than that.
I agree. Caved in to the arrest threat from the BTP officer way to easily, at the very least Charlie should have asked him on what specific law the arrest would be based on. That said, perhaps Charlie had other family commitments that he needed to get to?
@@markpaul1154 they have the same powers as other forces can arrest outside their jurisdiction and in peoples homes he was worried charlie might run off and he would need back up
Thats not true, they can require details if they reasonably suspect you of committing a crime, and if 5 or so witnesses came forward and reported him for what ever reason thats more than enough…
@@3DomSculpts i dont have a clue but the fact of the matter is you dont have to commit a crime to be required to give details, you have to be reasonably suspected of committing a crime, and if multiple people reported charlie of committing a certain crime thats enough for reasonable suspicion, whether he actually committed a crime or not doest matter
They might be police but tbh, why go out of your way to make someone’s job harder? I doubt they’re doing it for an ego trip, they’ve probably been told to do it.
At the end of the day, the glorified security guards seem to have won out. They did not like what you did and between them threatening to ban you from travel and the police threatening to arrest you, they got your information and can determine what punitive action they want to take against you. The reality is that most law enforcement agencies have bias in favor of businesses and other government agencies. Unless the private or public sector physically harm you, there's no punishment for them bothering you or denying you access unfairly. You make reference to GANGSTALKING in your subject line but then seem to praise the officer for threatening to arrest you. At the end, I am confused what point you're trying to make with the video.
So what was the nature of the alleged incident? When can we see the video of it? My guess is bluejacket objected to Charlie filming him when he was on the train, an argument ensued where bluejackets mouth started writing cheques which Charlie offered to cash in for him by telling him he was going to slap him into next week if he got any closer... Right Charlie???
From the polices point of view here, you get a report from multiple people saying someones been filming and abusing a schoolgirl on a train and theres been an altercation. You'd be disappointed if they didnt ask questions.
you and danny shine are smashing it with the content lately. Danny shines latest stunt was holding a sign saying ''vaccinated only'' outside euston train station asking people for vaxx proof and people were complying thinking it was hahahaha and he got a few hostile reactions as well and train staff came down and it was a bit mad.lol
Just a reminder that can legaly choose to not say anything to them and just walk home. Nothing is stopping you, infact I recomend it. They can't leally stop or detain you either. Just walk away and ignore them.
@@at6027 Suspected of "an" offence isn't enough, it must be specified and which is but one reason why countless instances of battery have been carried out by police handcuffing covid protestors.
Give them NOTHING. You're INNOCENT until proven Guilty in a court of law. Give someone a little bit of what they perceive as Authority, and they'll push and push. It may be as petty as them, but it's a matter of principle.
Hey Charlie, been watching you since everything is ok and have only just noted that we share birthdays, all but one that is as I'm a child of seventy nine. Didn't mean to one up on you buddy but the fact is fact lol. Anyhow, well handled as usual with those stalkers. All the best, will have a fine single malt for ya on the fifth. Peace out 👍
Multiple people have personally gone up to people and complained about you. You cant just say "it's made up." Okay under your laws then if someone has accused you of murdering someone you cant just say " people make up stuff all the time." get a grip bro, stop antagonising people for views.
Charlie you are not obliged to give your date of birth only your name and address and only if they tell you they suspect you have committed an offence and told you the caution ( not obliged to say anything etc etc) as per PACE act. There is no obligation to give details if it's just a stop check.
I walked past a girl after a night out n she asked for my number, I said I had a girl n kept walking. Next thing you know I got approached by police at Victoria Station with allegations of SA. Was a hell of an argument but eventually they checked the cameras n apologised to me.
The ego on this lad. Put a yellow vest on someone and they think they are a copper. The real copper should not have made the threat of arrest, but did seem like a good bloke
I wonder why the travel unsafe goons still keep their masks on when everyone else is removing theirs. Have they realised it makes them look threatening and stops people recognising them. Are they embarrassed what what friends might think of them?
An experiment. Get a few friends and bring up pictures of people modelling masks. Point out the ones that are most intimidating. Then look at public officials out in public. You will find a large percentage have purchased masks based on how intimidating they look. Black is always a good starter.
In the UK you don't have the right to remain silent prior to an arrest, only afterwards. In the US you have the right to remain silent at all times and your silence can't be used as a reason to arrest you.
I am a huge fan of yours, I love your videos usually. But this was immensely embarrassing, I cannot believe that if you had not broken any law, you folded so badly, you collapsed like a deck of cards. That police officer had no right to obtain your details, but you just handed them over. A demonstration of how not to protect your rights and freedoms. And you demonstrating that is so disappointing.
According to Charlie, he didn't break any laws. On that basis, absolutely not required to give up any personal information. If we go down that road, we got troubles in this country. This isn't Nazi Germany. But Charlie demonstrating there that when an officer "demands your papers", just hand them right over (metaphor).
Sometimes its worth fighting against tyrants. Other times more important things (kids) are key and it's not worth the fight. The best fighter picks their battles.
Officer, did you witness any breach of the law? Do you have a sworn witness statement from someone willing and able to testify under oath in a court of law? Any further action on your part will be deemed as harassment under the color of law.
More numpties in action. What was with the mate/pal stuff. These guys are stretching the meaning of Law and their authority under it. No way can they arrest without evidence -- Charlie should have asked them to articulate - what crime is he suspected of - and what is the evidence that gives them reasonable grounds to suspect him of anything. Charlie got conned by the threat of arrest.
Professional? I was pointed in this video's direction after someone shared it on their FB. And guess what, outside of chav world, everyone agrees he's a twat..
Sir charles.you are a god among men./women/ none binary.(I don't judge any person).you say what alot of people don't have the balls too say.good man.love love.keep doing your fantastic work.oli
The most hilarious thing is if he'd have left the station when they told him too he'd never have had to hand over any details at all and he'd have been home 10 minutes sooner.
Why were you not told what the allegations were? Or if you were then what were they? Or if none of the above... what is your feeling the allegations were for Charlie?
@@stephen3654 in which case it’s more likely to be about not wearing a mask. Although apart from London as of tomorrow 27th Jan 2022 it will not be illegal to not wear a mask on trains. Looks like his timing was out. Oops Charlie lol.
You just gave someone with no authority over your details over people that complained of hurt feelings. Grow some balls Charlie, that was embarrassing.
You handled yourself well. The "Travel Safe" goons tried their best to be intimidating but come across as bullies and like all bullies when their intimidation fails go running to daddy (BTP). The BTP guy whilst sounding professional and proper failed at everything. Asking for your name after you had said it multiple times shows that he wasn't listening and his single brain cell was busy trying to recite the training script. Totally understand why you gave details so that you could get home, the fight can take place later in a civil court, no need to waste your time when your kids are more important than a minor principle.
Thanks bro
Hearsay....
May aswell have licked BTP's boots and wiped his glasses, tell them where ur children rest their heads at night,
Fail by Charlie who is still a top man regardless. But yeah hold this L
th-cam.com/video/00GKTFuAs1k/w-d-xo.html
That's gangstalking. It's like the wicker man. People who hang around without purpose. Or if you 50 people who get in your personal space clicking pens & shit
Running to daddy ha ha to true.
That station need auditing
Hell yeah AB
@@CharlesVeitch
He didn’t fully read the bylaw he must have skipped this part :
The authorised person asking for details under Byelaw 23(1) shall state the nature of the breach of any of these Byelaws in general terms at the time of the request.
@@CharlesVeitch so which of these offences did you commit Mr Veitch?
It will be lot easier if you Confess 😂
6.
Unacceptable behaviour
1 No person shall use any threatening, abusive, obscene or offensive language on the railway.
2 No person shall behave in a disorderly, indecent or offensive manner on the railway.
3 No person shall write, draw, paint or fix anything on the railway. No person shall soil any part of the railway.
4 No person shall damage or detach any part of the railway.
5 No person shall spit on the railway.
6 No person shall drop litter or leave waste on the railway.
7 No person shall molest or wilfully interfere with the comfort or convenience of any person on the railway.
Like Kaiser Söze, I wasn't even there 😎
@@CharlesVeitch And like that, he was gone.
A pretty depressing watch and an accurate summation of where we are in UK 2022. Patronising bloke with camera, over zealous transport staff and gangsta mansdem in stuff bought by mummy needlessly getting involved. Grim.
"gangsta mansdem in stuff bought by mummy needlessly getting involved" it's just some lads having fun
@@IJFJJAJI that 'fun' quickly turns too reality.
and authoritarian police
@Psil0 yeah cheers for that. I'm fully aware of my rights and how to exercise them. I crack on with life in a positive manner and don't look to needlessly engineer conflicts such as this simply to provide content and validate my existence.
This video is depressingly reflective of where we are in the UK 2023. Hordes of people with over inflated notions of their own self importance speaking to even more people who are hard of thinking who then put these TH-camrs on a demi-pedestal.
If it works for you then that's cool, I'm not a huge fan of telling people what to think and what to do....
@Psil0 outrage? I'm not outraged at all (and don't think any of the language I used suggested that?), it's more a weariness and a dejection at the way we are heading as a society which is amplified by the likes of yer man here, carefully beginning his video as he walks off the train to add maximum juice to his persecution complex and to feed his audience.
Listen, I can see you sing from the same hymn sheet as him and good luck to you. I'd rather look to people who choose to help their local communities with positive initiatives in the real world, than a bloke mugging off to camera, desperately seeking clicks under some laughable cloak of doing this for the greater good.
Like I said, good luck to you, been good to exchange views.
Be careful of false allegations. I saw a man with his camera once in a park in central Dublin and somebody ill-disposed towards him called him a paedophile. Dangerous times with social media
While you're absolutely right, it's even more reason to keep 'filming anything we choose in our lives' the honest, legal thing that it is. It's when a stigma gets attached to normal actions that we withdraw further into fear and imprisonment.
After all if filming public events is inherently bad, why is every company, organisation and government doing it everywhere? incessantly.
I know you're not suggesting such, but when something is done with love and honesty, we should always defend it.
Ray green. You are absolutely right.
There's a difference between false allegations and acting up on a train to initiate contact with these guys. Then he's used it to prove they're bullies. Its one thing to keep an eye on people like this, it's quite another to engineer these encounters in an attempt to make them look bad. He clearly knew he did something and that they were waiting at the station because he was filming before it started. He set it up to go down like that.
@@reiverraider4887 That was the point. Charlie hasn't done anything unlawful but developed a situation to expose the authoritarian actions of this private security company that has no standing in the law.
@@1991elliot why didn't he film it all then? I mean, from the beginning, rather than just the outcome of something we can't see.
“Travel safe officer” 😂😂😂 Funniest shit I’ve heard in a while
Guilty until proven innocent, based on heresay. So suspicion is a crime now
Pre-Crime is now a crime! Minority Report!
Yes suspicion of crime leads to investigations and arrest if you do not comply which is correct. Let's say some touched your mrs and you complained to the security guard and police came. What would you expect to happen, just let them go because its only an allegation. Grow up guys
@@paulbarrow2497 the key word you used was “investigation” but you kinda lost this one by throwing out insults. It’s you who is immature.
@@paulbarrow2497 But suspicion by itself is not a crime, you dont get arrested for 'no crime', you dont help the police investigate yourself, as you say, ''leads to investigation and possible arrest'' later
Sus
Love the use of the great Christoper Hitchens razor:
“What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”.
The jumped up security guard went up a couple numbers in blood pressure meeting you man ahahaha!
I’m relatively new to your channel Charlie, but I’ve grown to love it very quickly. I love your enthusiasm, keep up the good work my guy 👍
It’s an allegation….FFS he obviously has had no training whatsoever in the art of investigation skills and has failed miserably in asking the right questions.He is out of his depth.
Precisely.... an allegation is just that, not proof, not a charge, not a conviction. The first words out of our mouths in this situation are, " who is the complainant?" and " are you detaining or arresting me?".
No one knows what happened or who's innocent or guilty, all he had to do was comply instead of escalating the situation
I served twenty years as a Guard with British Rail and I have never known anything like this. In my job I had to take a three hour verbal entrance examination which was re-taken every two years. I had to work alone and I was armed with only a whistle, detonators and ticket nippers. We didn't have fools wandering round with all that gear stuck to their fronts and a bad attitude. Even in my day the British Transport Police were rather incompetent and stupid and I have to admit that I enjoyed running rings around them when they got things wrong or tried to get out of doing their jobs properly or refusing to act on my instructions. I've had many a laugh when recalling the antics of the BTP in cities around the country and how I left them speechless after confronting me with BS. They really do take on that job because they are incapable of doing anything else. As for these new clowns on the block, we don't need goons. We need porters and chargemen back, we need barriers for entry and exit points not electronic gates. A lot of crime is committed onboard a train and we used to deal with it swiftly, that's why the Guard is there and we would only call the police to take somebody away as a last resort after the individual persisted. Most criminal types think that they can get away with crimes committed on a train and are taken aback when they don't, but even more staggering is the incompetence of the BTP. I would have to spend hours writing reports and preparing evidence for the court. Prevention is better than cure.
You are a credit to BR. Well said.
Words like commonsense, decorum, responsibility, duty, respect and many others have been deleted from the common lexicon, in an amoral "anything" goes laissez-faire world you get degeneracy, it's not a mistake, I have seen the rot set since the mid 60s.
@@David-ci1vn Another person who speaks sense. I wasn't born until much later but have seen that happen. I wonder what it will take to have a civilised society.
@@CAROLS9995 " I wonder what it will take to have a civilised society.", the willingness to say "no", to challenge, debate, be involved politically at every level ofrom the street to the hoghest state offices, it is said that we get the government we deserve, clearly we don't currently deserve very much.
@@David-ci1vn Agree. Exactly, we don't as we refuse to learn from history and do things differently. People in the UK complain about current government, yet they keep getting voted for.
“I want to be a police officer”
Sorry you’ll be crap at it
“I want to be a PCSO”
Sorry you’ll be crap at it
“I want to be a travel safety officer”
OK but you’ll be crap it........
Jobs a job just use reason
I’m a former police officer - here are your options with police
“Are you a police officer?”
“No”
You leave.
“Are you a police officer?”
“Yes”
Start recording on your phone, then ask -
“Can I see ID, and take your constabulary, surname and badge number?”
They must provide this
Inform them that if they conduct themselves unlawfully you will provide video evidence, lodge a formal complaint, take the video evidence to your solicitor and take them to court
Then ask -
“Am I detained?”
“No”
You leave
If they inform you that you are detained, then you must comply with what they are doing, but you should still record and also ideally get witnesses around you. They must inform you of the reason for you being detained. If they do not, then they are acting unlawfully. Once they inform you that you are detained, the best thing you can do is to remain absolutely silent, only asking for legal representation as soon as possible.
Travel safe officer- lollipop man same authority
Lollipop Men and Ladies are of more use.
Nah, lollipop men have the authority to stop traffic - which is far more power than those travel safe goons have and deserve.
They do a good job
I'm betting Charlie lost his shit with someone on the train who tried to tell him what to do (might have had something to do with masks maybe) am I a million miles away?
or he might have put his camera in their face uninvited when they just wanted a quiet ride home on the train.. or some combination of or variation on the above..
Wow those "travel safe" guys or whatever they're called are absolute goons. This country along with others is constantly and progressively p1ssing me off with all of these pathetic jobs being created.
I get people have to pay the bills, etc but what pricks they are!
I didn't know these guys existed. Sub-PCSO levels of authority, training and intellect, yet have the power through their actions to potentially put a serious "spanner in the works" re an innocent someone's life by setting in motion their arrest. An absolute disgrace and a true sign of everything wrong with policing in this country.
The apparent (self-appointed) head goon stinks of failing to qualify for uni, living at home with mummy and mid-20s virginity. Exactly the sort of below average bitter tool who'd look for this kind of job. Didn't he call Charlie an idiot? I'd file a complaint about that, if only to waste his and his superiors time (time they could be using to harass the public)
@@desperatemohammedantheworl5833 Yh, it makes me angry sometimes when I think about it bud. Bring back the 90's anyday for me, as things just seem to be getting worse!
They are trying to turn the UK into a communist dictatorship, and creating gang stalking jobs goes hand in hand with that.
Unfortunately it's the actions of a significant minority of the travelling public and their being able to conduct themselves in an orderly manner that has necessitated the need for the Travel Safe Officers.
The railway is merely reacting to circumstances by creating these positions.
Most travelling passengers, and station users, are blissfully unaware of the Railway Bylaws. Why? Because they do no engage in inappropriate behaviour and do not draw attention to themselves in a negative way.
Unfortunately a small number do and their behaviour has a disproportionate effect on the rest - and the staff that have to deal with it. From anti social behaviour to fare evasion.
Taking regular rail staff away from their operational duties to deal with these matters impacts negatively on the service provision so dedicated bylaw enforcement teams have been created. This is at the behest of many stakeholders in the railway including the unions, passenger groups, & station retailers.
Unfortunately they are necessary, some might say a necessary evil, but necessary nonetheless.
Now, to the matter at hand. An allegation was made against Charlie Veitch, probably to the guard on the train, he has been unable to resolve the matter amicably, has deemed the allegation worthy of further investigation, and has requested assistance. What the allegation is about is unknown, and crucially to the Travel Safe Officers is unknown to them until they have discussed matters with both parties. A normal passenger with nothing to hide would be very keen, IMO, to "clear" his name and most would engage with the staff. Normally at that many allegations mysteriously dissappear as the complainer decides that THEY don't want the hassle when offered the chance to make it "offical". Things happen, often these situations are just "something & nothing". Life moves on.
However, when the person, against whom an allegation is made, does not engage that raises the suspicions of the persons tasked with investigating the matter. When you come across as defensive people will assume that you have something to defend (or hide). Basic psychology.
Ultimately Charlie himself escalated matters until, under duress, he was forced to give his name & address. He could have done so to the Travel Safe Officers at the start, then disengaged and been on his merry way. He does not have to defend, nor explain, his actions - it's up to the complainer to establish that.
I don't know what the allegation was about however let's create a scenario. I've seen Charlie kick & push members of the public before, in all cases justifiable. Now, let's say Charlie is filming on the train and a passenger takes exception and attempts to take Charlie's camera from him with force. Charlie defends himself by pushing the passenger away. As it is on a moving train the passenger loses his balance and falls over. The passenger accuses Charlie of assault & there are other, independent, witnesses who corroborate his account. NB for this scenario these witnesses are not lying but are giving a truth account from their perspective (e.g. they were not in a position to see the original attempted camera grab).
So, now we have created an incident (for the avoidance of doubt I'm not suggesting this actually happened) worthy of investigation. In this case if an assault took place the person involved would generally not wish to engage and may try to flee the scene. It is incumbent on the investigators to establish the facts -
"No thank you." 😂😂
Pure class and well handled. Good on you for telling them where to go (politely).
I have never hear of a travel safe officer before. Initially I thought they were British Transport Police.... but they are just national rail employees with a god complex
Good on you Charles, for not taking any shit from those rent a cops. They obviously dont have the power to question any one. Kudos to you sir!
All tough and important in a high vis, face mask with a badge , handled superbly Charlie 👍
Amazing how calm you remain Charles well done 👍
They are then shocked why they get assaulted. Allegations.. ffs
Gangstalking is one of my top 5 fav overly crazy conspiracy topics, nice of Charlie to capture it's actual existence. And the perps are actually paid police cosplay actors. 😱
*Cosplay actors dressed as police*, forgive my phrasing, I'm an expat koala in america, English gets hard.
@@TheStonerKoala Oh well.
Thank you for the 'lesson' that no one needed.
I mean these corporations literally admit they do it to people on ted talks so there is no conspiracy. Its a real event and it happens. Sadly most people it happens to are drug addicts. But that's also who they target. In my home town even the fire department admit to harassing people they dont like. Seen them cutting dogs off there leashes and making the dogs run away because they simply didn't like the owner.
Lol, if you say so lad 🤣😂
I get paid to smoke weed on my TH-cam channel , normal jobs are soon to obsolete due to self checkouts & NFTs !😳
I'm unclear about whether you didn't do anything or whether you did something and you are having a laugh that you got away with it. I understand that a person is innocent until proven guilty and I think the 'security' people should be better trained, but my son was racially abused on a train as a kid and it makes me feel a bit sick that had someone challenged the bastard he could have just had a laugh and posted it on TH-cam. Tricky to understand what is happening. Is this clip just for your followers who know the backstory?
He should have referred the Officer to Rice v Connolly 1966 and walked away.
@@m4rt1n0nY0utub3 Indeed. Why are we so quick to throw away our basic rights? 1966 and no camera. Brave man.
@@wildphil64 👍
the cop says he has not threatened you or attempted to take away your liberty , that he was just asking you for your details but a minute earlier he said he would arrest you and take you to the station if you don't provide your details, how is that not a threat :P
Deception and lying is not a crime, its a police tactic used every day.
It works 99% will buckle and hand over their details.
He's not a cop. He is a jumped up office goon.
You can get arrested if you don’t give your details when asked by a police officer that’s the law, the officer was been nice and didn’t want to go there but he can by law…..so when asked for your details you must give them or get arrested…..don’t play stupid game or your ego will get you in drama 🎭 you don’t need in your life…..
The moment the cop realised what he was doing, he looks so stressed in the last minute.
The Travel Safe Automatons were thier usual Jobsworth attitude And at least the PC listened to you Chalie,hope it all blows over without any grief!
Can guarantee if he 'did nothing wrong' we would have seen the footage. As he didn't include it.......
Karen Music
Thank you for your guarantee.
one small problem there bud, he puts his camera away on public transport....
Charlie you played that extreamly well hah. The travel muppets were on a power trip for sure.
Charlie, I'm in the us. This goes on with elderly residents of an independent living facility for the elderly whom are only plain clothes volenteers ... the stalking. Grabbing for my dog or other protruding artifacts I might be carrying. It's insane. Then they get all upset if I avert or ward them off
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Well Charlie you let that police officer trample all over your rights , I'm very disappointed with you. Human rights act article 6, 8 and 10 went right out of the window !!!
🤣🤣🤣Charlie you're class bro loved to have been inside the train.Respect to the young lads for taking the piss nice to see.Made my day.Take care mate.
He did a better job of controlling the young lads than the Hy-Viz Wombles.
(My apologies to Uncle Bulgaria).
@asmuchuseasachocolate teapot Haven't heard anything since the trolls took his chanel down mate.I miss his channel too liked listening to him put the world to rights.Have a good one.
What a life you live 😪
@@stephengrafton5021 You have no idea.🤣
@@ripvanwincle2258 I know you like seeing
Teenager's tormented. Great ain't it, until
It's one of your family? I pray it won't 🙏
Everywhere Charlie goes he manages to cause drama. I wonder is it's ever entered his head that he might be responsible for some of it?
No, because he's too arrogant to even consider that he might be responsible. Look at his slimy smirk to the camera when speaking to the officer. He obviously feels that he is WAY too important. 🙄
I think you guys are missing the whole point? He KNOWS him being in certain areas and certain situations are going to cause issues like the one in the video above, BUT the whole point is he is intentionally putting himself in that position to educate the viewers on how to deal with a situation like this so we don't get caught out if/when this happens to us (the viewers) Normal everyday citizens are too quick to bow to being asked to leave a public place when we do not have too, we are also too quick to give our details when we do not have too (unless the officer has been informed of an allegation like in the above video) For instance if you are randomly walking along a public place filming (legally) and an officer approaches and asks who you are, where you live, what your upto etc etc you do not have to interact and give any personal details. That's basically the whole point in him posting this video and has nothing to do with him "looking for trouble" It's to educate. Just like when he helps tourists or people who might not be aware that they have the opportunity to pick up litter when they drop it instead of standing giving personal details to the laughable 3GS litter patrol and paying a £120 fine that is basically being dished out by scammers in uniforms. Keep watching and stay educated 👍🏻
@@tinaa9231 what officer? Jumped up official.
@@kingston2411 Ahhh yes, of course, i'm a "sheep" because i don't go around provoking people 🙄
@@jamesphlames7498 perhaps you prefer boot licker.
True leadership there, telling your fans not to put the camera in their face
Playing the blame game again subject 👈🦉
I think you mean scroats.
This is Victoria station, entrance to Manchester arena. Now imagine if the security acting how they did here towards the bomber. Cowards who have blood on their hands
Seeing how this police officer speaks to Charlie and the way GMP speak to him, it's night and day. I hope more police forces learn how to treat the general public with respect.
Charlie, what's the back story. What on earth happened on the train. My guess is you pissed off an NPC for not wearing a mask. Anyway, well done for standing your ground.
Yeah Come On Charlie...... What happened......
It's clear you've been shouting at some people on the Train and making a bit of a Spectacle man.... We know that's what you do.... We watch your videos ....
Fair play- if Dave got a camera on the train, they can Show the whole world if they want. If there's no Cams, No evidence, No crime.... Well no... actually. That works in theory, but if you have corroborated witnesses, Let's say 5 people saying you did something and all their stories are the same, and you were in Court, 5 Against 1, then obviously It would be Highly likely to play out in their favour, Even if they were lying. That's just the way it works. Unless the Judge had a Very Clear picture of the situation, which they may well do.
Anyway, I'm sure nothing will come of it. If you were just shouting at people on the train, then It could well have been justified- that depends on the specific situation. Having relative fame also plays into consideration for determining Justice. I know that you don't want to Label whatever happened as an 'incident'. Of course, Nobody wants that to happen when they're deemed to be the one causing it, but there are always people who are at different places on the Relative Scale, when it comes to what they believe is Right and Wrong, Good and Bad, Just and Unjust.
When you're the Sting in the Scorpions tail, of course you get a ripple effect, of other people's reaction. So being the Sting comes back with Exponential Stings from all angles..... Damn, what can I say? Try to be something other than a Scorpion
@@jamesjackson5020 Maybe they didn't like the whole sleeping with a 14 year old girl a few years back now.
@@ianmangham4570???
@@jamesjackson5020 Why are you just randomly capitalising words hahahaha
@@kd2226 You must be knew to Charlie if you ain't heard that one, he's been around a good 20 years or more now, famous for lying about the guy who the coppers knocked down and killed in London, they thought he'd beeb drinking but was having a diabetic episode.
I go on the train but never end up in this sort of mess. Is it time to find help Sir Charles?
he is way to childish and aggressiv. those poor security people...
Decent cop, seems honest also. Cannot fault GMP really even transport police are decent. Question is what happened on the train?!
Likely see that in a future upload, at the moment, I dare say Charles has considered it evidence to clear his name.
@global pulse proof he instigated anything? no? right then
@global pulse Nothing you have said is funny.
@global pulse or maybe it's weird to have a camera out on public transport?
this guy goes out, and films daily life. he's not gunna show the boring stuff is he?
@@danielseaburg9763 his video's have loads of boring stuff it's the fact it always cuts at the juicy bits
Gonna ask the question no one else is prepared to ask you...Where is the rest of the video? You never go anywhere without recording! What are you trying to hide?
thank god someone said it
This guy isn't even a cop and he has authority issues. But that is the sickness right? People having authority over others always leads to power trips.
Cartman South park,,,, respect my authorityyyyyy
If the police ask for your details you can refuse under the premise that you are not obliged to incriminate yourself. If the police DO suspect you of committing a crime then they must read you your rights then arrest you. Then you say nothing till you have a lawyer .. you'll be out a few hours. No judge in their right mind will punish you with zero evidence of a crime commited.
If someone made allegations about me I'd want to know what those allegations were before anything else.
Tough Bickies: So would I, can't believe he didn't ask what they were.
They were ALL bursting to nail you !! Very well handled ;)
Charlie you really dropped the ball on this one. Folded like bad hand
Agree 100%, what has become of him ? Stockholm syndrome ? Thinks poilce are his friends now.
hardly matey he played it right the officer would have nicked him only a mug would get arrested for a byelaw offence the BTP have alot more clout than normal forces they have a byelaw covering everything and the rail companies have a zero tolerance
@@at6027 Notice one thing, the officer is desperate to get him back on BTP property.
They have no jurisdiction to enforce bylaws outside the boundary of the byelaw area, they only apply in the railway Property.
He folded, like above, like a pack of cards.
Shame, thought he had more gumption than that.
I agree. Caved in to the arrest threat from the BTP officer way to easily, at the very least Charlie should have asked him on what specific law the arrest would be based on. That said, perhaps Charlie had other family commitments that he needed to get to?
@@markpaul1154 they have the same powers as other forces can arrest outside their jurisdiction and in peoples homes he was worried charlie might run off and he would need back up
Amazing... Defying the narrative. Absolutel LOVE it
Your not obliged to give any details when no offence has been committed charlie.
Thats not true, they can require details if they reasonably suspect you of committing a crime, and if 5 or so witnesses came forward and reported him for what ever reason thats more than enough…
@@brennanread1787 Wromg
@Expo Scotland Quite.
@@brennanread1787 what crime did the BTPO "reasonably suspect" Charles of committing?
@@3DomSculpts i dont have a clue but the fact of the matter is you dont have to commit a crime to be required to give details, you have to be reasonably suspected of committing a crime, and if multiple people reported charlie of committing a certain crime thats enough for reasonable suspicion, whether he actually committed a crime or not doest matter
They might be police but tbh, why go out of your way to make someone’s job harder? I doubt they’re doing it for an ego trip, they’ve probably been told to do it.
Why were ordinary peop[e on the train phoning the authorities about you, that's what I want to know?
Imagine how embarrassed you’d be if someone you know, became a PCSO. 😂
At the end of the day, the glorified security guards seem to have won out. They did not like what you did and between them threatening to ban you from travel and the police threatening to arrest you, they got your information and can determine what punitive action they want to take against you. The reality is that most law enforcement agencies have bias in favor of businesses and other government agencies. Unless the private or public sector physically harm you, there's no punishment for them bothering you or denying you access unfairly. You make reference to GANGSTALKING in your subject line but then seem to praise the officer for threatening to arrest you. At the end, I am confused what point you're trying to make with the video.
Perhaps there is no point. Maybe it’s just a bunch of stuff that happened.
So what was the nature of the alleged incident? When can we see the video of it? My guess is bluejacket objected to Charlie filming him when he was on the train, an argument ensued where bluejackets mouth started writing cheques which Charlie offered to cash in for him by telling him he was going to slap him into next week if he got any closer...
Right Charlie???
@@audimanuk 🤣🤣🤣 class
@@audimanuk sounds like multiple people reported him for spitting on the train. Bylaw 6
He’s not an auditor and he’s not trying to make any point. He just films.
I don't talk to anyone covering their face, especially if they state they're in a position of authority.
Nicely handled, Charlie. I’ll look forward to the follow up.
So will I, but I bet we don't see it !
I doubt you'll see it.
It was so nice to see you catch Reggie the other day in Manchester. Can we see a collaboration coming soon🤔
Charlie, if you need any support, I can put forward a decent bunch of lawyers called Gemini Legal.
From the polices point of view here, you get a report from multiple people saying someones been filming and abusing a schoolgirl on a train and theres been an altercation. You'd be disappointed if they didnt ask questions.
you and danny shine are smashing it with the content lately. Danny shines latest stunt was holding a sign saying ''vaccinated only'' outside euston train station asking people for vaxx proof and people were complying thinking it was hahahaha and he got a few hostile reactions as well and train staff came down and it was a bit mad.lol
Scumbag copper saying he isn’t threatening you in the same sentence threatening to take your rights away from you
threatening arrest to get details very unprofessional
"My names Charlie Veitch, I'm a
TH-camr"
Something of a Bond nature about that 🤣
Just a reminder that can legaly choose to not say anything to them and just walk home. Nothing is stopping you, infact I recomend it. They can't leally stop or detain you either. Just walk away and ignore them.
the police can and will arrest you if they suspect you may have committed a crime.
A couple of grand for 5 hours “work”? Where do I sign up
@@Feedthegoat at the nearest police station
wrong he asked for his details because he suspected an offence had been committed not giving them gives the officer power of arrest
@@at6027 Suspected of "an" offence isn't enough, it must be specified and which is but one reason why countless instances of battery have been carried out by police handcuffing covid protestors.
Give them NOTHING. You're INNOCENT until proven Guilty in a court of law. Give someone a little bit of what they perceive as Authority, and they'll push and push. It may be as petty as them, but it's a matter of principle.
They don't have much for rights there. No 1st no 5th... The US is losing them quickly too.
Love from staffordshire respect Charlie 🙏
"MY MATE" - What a very odd turn-of-phrase!
Hey Charlie, been watching you since everything is ok and have only just noted that we share birthdays, all but one that is as I'm a child of seventy nine. Didn't mean to one up on you buddy but the fact is fact lol. Anyhow, well handled as usual with those stalkers. All the best, will have a fine single malt for ya on the fifth. Peace out 👍
If you were going to just hand your details over anyway you could have done so in the beginning instead of acting like a knob!
Charles you G , This made me smile so much, Love the way you handled this
Multiple people have personally gone up to people and complained about you. You cant just say "it's made up." Okay under your laws then if someone has accused you of murdering someone you cant just say " people make up stuff all the time." get a grip bro, stop antagonising people for views.
Ah the old threat of taking you down the station for a few hours to try and inconvenience you into you complying. Classic
Causing trouble again. Good vids!! The haircuts on those kids haha
Charlie you are not obliged to give your date of birth only your name and address and only if they tell you they suspect you have committed an offence and told you the caution ( not obliged to say anything etc etc) as per PACE act.
There is no obligation to give details if it's just a stop check.
Charlie Veitch handled that well against the gangstalking.
Respect Charlie, always some person in a high vi's that's what's to use authority. Lmfao brilliant
Charlie is a government agent, don't speak to it mate
@@sharpy5550 I only know what you see
@@sharpy5550 probably the new protected demographic of crackhead/spicehead/fake homeless hence why we dont see the video
Rights!! 🤘
I walked past a girl after a night out n she asked for my number, I said I had a girl n kept walking. Next thing you know I got approached by police at Victoria Station with allegations of SA. Was a hell of an argument but eventually they checked the cameras n apologised to me.
Hard to make an honest assessment with only 1 side of the story
The Police officer seemed reasonable under the circumstances and did explain - the other idiots were just absolutely unprofessional and useless.
You held yourself sooo well until you let the kids bring the show down.
So.... what exactly DID you do on the train Charlie? Let's get a little more context here shall we?
ive had trouble in my lifetime as well and came out with no charges after an incident. just wondering what you did or didnt do lol
Your impromptu tiktok backup guys outside the station were hilarious
You forgot to say the last 3 digits on the back of your card!
Charlie you have the patience of a Saint. I couldn't keep my hands to myself if these hi vis Hitlers were tailing me.
Yeah coz that’d be clever wouldn’t it.
The way he smiles when he says I’m a TH-camr to funny great stuff 😂
The ego on this lad. Put a yellow vest on someone and they think they are a copper.
The real copper should not have made the threat of arrest, but did seem like a good bloke
the ego of "iam a famous youtuber"... lol
Charlie thanks & stay safe 😎
I wonder why the travel unsafe goons still keep their masks on when everyone else is removing theirs. Have they realised it makes them look threatening and stops people recognising them. Are they embarrassed what what friends might think of them?
An experiment. Get a few friends and bring up pictures of people modelling masks. Point out the ones that are most intimidating. Then look at public officials out in public. You will find a large percentage have purchased masks based on how intimidating they look. Black is always a good starter.
Virtue signalling reasons, and due to mass formation psychosis.
Gives them a sense of authority no doubt.
Lol, clamped! You comformed like a good boy. Bravo Sir
Travel safe officers wobble but they don’t fall down.......pal..pal mate pal mate
Brilliant. Haha
In the UK you don't have the right to remain silent prior to an arrest, only afterwards. In the US you have the right to remain silent at all times and your silence can't be used as a reason to arrest you.
I am a huge fan of yours, I love your videos usually. But this was immensely embarrassing, I cannot believe that if you had not broken any law, you folded so badly, you collapsed like a deck of cards. That police officer had no right to obtain your details, but you just handed them over. A demonstration of how not to protect your rights and freedoms. And you demonstrating that is so disappointing.
mate go on the railway and use bad language or do a minor infraction see what happens its a different ball game to be doing stuff out on the street
According to Charlie, he didn't break any laws. On that basis, absolutely not required to give up any personal information. If we go down that road, we got troubles in this country. This isn't Nazi Germany. But Charlie demonstrating there that when an officer "demands your papers", just hand them right over (metaphor).
Sometimes its worth fighting against tyrants. Other times more important things (kids) are key and it's not worth the fight. The best fighter picks their battles.
@@TheSadButMadLad I get that totally, Charlie did say he wanted to get home to his kids. But the veitch was well and truly breached, not good to see
Orange vest gos to there heads
Officer, did you witness any breach of the law?
Do you have a sworn witness statement from someone willing and able to testify under oath in a court of law?
Any further action on your part will be deemed as harassment under the color of law.
More numpties in action. What was with the mate/pal stuff. These guys are stretching the meaning of Law and their authority under it. No way can they arrest without evidence -- Charlie should have asked them to articulate - what crime is he suspected of - and what is the evidence that gives them reasonable grounds to suspect him of anything. Charlie got conned by the threat of arrest.
You were very professional and articulate Charles well done 👌
Professional? I was pointed in this video's direction after someone shared it on their FB. And guess what, outside of chav world, everyone agrees he's a twat..
But the question remains: what went on on that train?
Let me take a guess ...
Man has camera.
Someone goes in a sulk about it.
Oh well.
Probably confronted for no mask then Charlie started filming..? Someone took offence and away it goes!
Is he just a troublemaker then I don’t know who he is ?
Great video
Sir charles.you are a god among men./women/ none binary.(I don't judge any person).you say what alot of people don't have the balls too say.good man.love love.keep doing your fantastic work.oli
The most hilarious thing is if he'd have left the station when they told him too he'd never have had to hand over any details at all and he'd have been home 10 minutes sooner.
Why were you not told what the allegations were? Or if you were then what were they? Or if none of the above... what is your feeling the allegations were for Charlie?
@@stephen3654 in which case it’s more likely to be about not wearing a mask. Although apart from London as of tomorrow 27th Jan 2022 it will not be illegal to not wear a mask on trains. Looks like his timing was out. Oops Charlie lol.
@@stephen3654 have people been fined for not wearing masks at all?
@@stephen3654 I see. Thanks for that.
Good video upload charlie enjoyed it 👍
What were the allegations? I want to know now...
Not a police officer.
You just gave someone with no authority over your details over people that complained of hurt feelings. Grow some balls Charlie, that was embarrassing.