This series is always a breath of fresh air after constantly building and playing against commander decks with the top 100 commanders. I miss finding new cards!!!
Probably worth playing cards that can copy Chisei (Spark Double, both Sakashimas) so that you can potentially sustain multiple cumulative upkeep triggers/perpetual sagas.
I think I'll add Paradox Haze to the Chisei deck. It will help keep more of these cumulative upkeep permanents and sagas around longer. Awesome video!!
Another thing you could do with Ulasht is take advantage of the enrage mechanic to get some fun repeateable effects. Raptor Hatchling and Polyraptor are both good ones because they can get you some extra creatures, ranging raptors can find you additional lands, etc etc. Of course, you would need to be careful about giving Ulasht deathtouch or equipping something like neko-te, but I think you could have some fun with that.
Time of ice wasn’t next untap, it’s for as long as time of ice is on the battlefield. That’s very strong if you keep it in play and eventually you pay off by returning them to opponent’s hands on 3.
I know Ivy Lane Denizen was in Ulasht, but it's also great with Jedit. If you just have those 2 and a yavimaya out, your commander is now 3 hits away from a commander damage kill.
I think Ulasht+ivy lane denizen+ashnods and altar is infinite colourless no? Then if you add and counter adder or doubler that’s infinite saprolings and infinitely large ulasht
Amazing video as always! Chisei is one of my pet cards (I really enjoy mono color commanders) and I have a couple os suggestions if someone wants to make a Chisei deck: 1- Decree of silence can be devastating late game, when you have one opponent left; 2- Deep sea Kraken is a fun card too; 3- Nesting grounds and Power conduit are good "chisei effects" and if you want a card to throw all the counters from Power conduit, I recommend Titan Forge
I love this video! I saw Chisei at a con once (not as the commander) and have been trying to puzzle it out ever since. Super weird card. The main thing that trips me up is you can only remove one counter per upkeep, so loading down the board with sagas etc actually won’t help you too much. Paradox Haze seems like an auto-include for that reason. And how do you win? Jedit on the other hand is one of my favorite cards in the game, I have him in my Arahbo deck and I usually get laughed at for how excited I am to play him - but he is absolutely nothing to sneeze at. Even if he’s not unblockable he makes so many tokens, and relevant tokens at that. Ulasht seems just good, maybe not overwhelming but certainly not underwhelming. Kind of surprised it made the cut for this series honestly.
I have Initiative (and other dungeons), Monarchy, Coveted Jewel, Contested War Zone and stuff like that in my Jedit deck to give opponents reason to attack me (and each other).
Dromoka: Morph/Manifest Deck, Artifacts or Eldrazi Devoid Sol'Kanar: All spells have at least black in their costs, combine it with Krrrrrrrrrik/Bolas' Citadel and other stuff I really want to see your takes on my actual commanders above :D
Ok so you're messing with us with "say-guh." Alright, okay, a get it, memes and shit. But then you said "kray-ken." Did I do something to you to make you mad at me? I swear I like the videos. I'm subscribed. Just don't do me like that man.
@@edhdeckbuilding not to dis your cute pronunciation (love the vids btw!) but the 'a' in rake is said like that because the word ends in an 'e'. That's the general rule in English. The vowel sound changes depending on the word structure. Compare 'sake' and 'sack' for example. but no hate dude, you keep doing your thing!
I'm from Maine and my mom is from North Dakota and I've met Canadians in both states (though it isn't true of all Canadians) that pronounce things weird as hell
I would love to see you do one for king macar the gold cursed, been a favorite of mine for a long time and I am interested in seeing how you would build it
Sosuke son of seshiro would be great in the jedith deck, he basically gives all your warriors a deathtouch like effect, so even if they block or become blocked, your opponents still have to lose advantage.
one per upkeep unfortunately. However, one thing you can always do is make non-ledgendary copies of chisei (helm of the host, spark double, sakashima etc.) then you can remove more.
I have a ulasht deck on magic online.. its token based instead of +1/+1 counters.. so i make tokens and then play ulasht.. remove his counters to make saprolings and then cast him again with more counters
Another idea with Chisei you did not mention is any spells with suspend. You have to remove counters inorder to finally cast the spell. Chisei would allow you to cast Suspended spells earlier.
@@edhdeckbuilding oh yeah, that makes sense. Also you forgot about that one legendary land that creates that 20/20 indesctuctable flying demon thing. I cant remember the name though.
Does jedit's ability activate more if he attacks or blocks more? In that case you could use a lot of hundred handed one type "blocks multiple creatures" abilities to make an army.
Seems like Vorinclex Monstrous Raider is a natural for the Ulasht deck and, while expensive, is much cheaper than Doubling Season and has a broader effect.
How do you balance all the counter stuff in Chisei? You can only remove 1 counter a turn so having 4 things out with cumulative upkeep seems a bit much.
You want your saga to be at level 2. That way if you remove a counter, it triggers the 1st one again and then after your draw step it triggers the second one again. So that is 2 triggers in one turn. This wouldn't happen if you removed the counter at level 1. Also one other cool interaction, a saga is destroyed when the last chapter has RESOLVED! So if you can remove a counter at instant speed when the last trigger is on the stack, you keep the saga around for another turn!
Nope. Saga chapters only trigger when counters are *added*, not removed. Removing a counter does not cause the previous chapter to trigger. So to repeatedly trigger the first chapter, you have to have 0 counters on it first. The reason sagas work with Chisei is because Chisei removes counters during upkeep, whereas sagas add counters immediately after the draw step (Untap > Upkeep > Draw), so you can have zero counters on the saga before the game checks and adds one more.
So I have never seen Ulasht before this video. If you have a way of getting infinite mana (and face it you're in green, it can be done), then Ulasht is a win con by himself.
Medomai's Prophecy could draw you two cards each turn on chapter 3 if you play Sensei's Divining Top, or keep cycling the same instant/sorcery with Mirari Conjecture.
First time you said saga I had no problem with it, who cares if you don't know how to, or can't, pronounce a word right. But the second time had me spit my drink holy shit that was funny I'm so sorry.
Could you sometime add Hikori, Dust Drinker to a poll of yours? I know that I have been quite regular for suggestions, but I just thought that you might appreciate the suggestions.
I had a friend who was SUPER hyped for dominaria - we got to the prerelease he pulls a saga in his first pack loudly says "I GOT A SAY-GUH!". Everyone in the lgs just turned and stared at us and it was horrible
bruh the heavy canadian accent is half the reason i subbed to this guy. I fucking love it edit: you realize its great when you replace every "a" sound with the ol canadian "eh" for example: s"eh"ga
You should say Lady GaGa like the way you say Saga in your next video. Let's keep the funnies rolling.
Dude stfu ..lmao...that would be hilarious..please man do it once
Lady GaGa cast a Saga in Kamigawa
This series is always a breath of fresh air after constantly building and playing against commander decks with the top 100 commanders. I miss finding new cards!!!
definitely - one of my favorite Commander series online.
Probably worth playing cards that can copy Chisei (Spark Double, both Sakashimas) so that you can potentially sustain multiple cumulative upkeep triggers/perpetual sagas.
Paradox Haze too, for multiple upkeeps/multiple Chisei triggers. That’s a fun trick I learned from my Jhoira suspend deck.
@@IxDreamedxIxMetxYou Paradox Haze is a bit weird in this deck, since it also doubles your Cumulative Upkeep triggers, which kinda defeats the point.
I'm always so tempted to build these decks. They all seem so fun to play.
Yeah, I thought these were suppose to be underwhelming lol
I think I'll add Paradox Haze to the Chisei deck. It will help keep more of these cumulative upkeep permanents and sagas around longer. Awesome video!!
Another thing you could do with Ulasht is take advantage of the enrage mechanic to get some fun repeateable effects. Raptor Hatchling and Polyraptor are both good ones because they can get you some extra creatures, ranging raptors can find you additional lands, etc etc. Of course, you would need to be careful about giving Ulasht deathtouch or equipping something like neko-te, but I think you could have some fun with that.
Time of ice wasn’t next untap, it’s for as long as time of ice is on the battlefield. That’s very strong if you keep it in play and eventually you pay off by returning them to opponent’s hands on 3.
I mean just tapping a creature every turn sounds kinda good
I know Ivy Lane Denizen was in Ulasht, but it's also great with Jedit. If you just have those 2 and a yavimaya out, your commander is now 3 hits away from a commander damage kill.
Thelonite Monk would go really well in that Jedit deck. In case no one has forests you can make them have one!!!
With Ulasht caring about +1/+1 counters, and the Devour mechanic doing what it does, Death's Presence is an all star enchantment imo
Have you considered making edh gameplay videos? Seeing some of your decks in action sounds fantastic
Much love. These intriguing builds are like popping bubble wrap and solving a brain teaser puzzle at the same time.
I think Ulasht+ivy lane denizen+ashnods and altar is infinite colourless no? Then if you add and counter adder or doubler that’s infinite saprolings and infinitely large ulasht
I've had Ulasht for years now, def my favourite casual edh deck. Actually added Scalding Salamander from one of your earlier vids
Amazing video as always! Chisei is one of my pet cards (I really enjoy mono color commanders) and I have a couple os suggestions if someone wants to make a Chisei deck:
1- Decree of silence can be devastating late game, when you have one opponent left;
2- Deep sea Kraken is a fun card too;
3- Nesting grounds and Power conduit are good "chisei effects" and if you want a card to throw all the counters from Power conduit, I recommend Titan Forge
I love this video! I saw Chisei at a con once (not as the commander) and have been trying to puzzle it out ever since. Super weird card. The main thing that trips me up is you can only remove one counter per upkeep, so loading down the board with sagas etc actually won’t help you too much. Paradox Haze seems like an auto-include for that reason. And how do you win? Jedit on the other hand is one of my favorite cards in the game, I have him in my Arahbo deck and I usually get laughed at for how excited I am to play him - but he is absolutely nothing to sneeze at. Even if he’s not unblockable he makes so many tokens, and relevant tokens at that.
Ulasht seems just good, maybe not overwhelming but certainly not underwhelming. Kind of surprised it made the cut for this series honestly.
I voted because I subbed and enabled notifications. You should push that if people want to vote on the commander to click notifications
I have Initiative (and other dungeons), Monarchy, Coveted Jewel, Contested War Zone and stuff like that in my Jedit deck to give opponents reason to attack me (and each other).
Anyway we could get the decklist for the remove counters commander? Seems like a really interesting concept I wanna tryout.
Never disappointed when I tune in. Instant like every video.
Dromoka: Morph/Manifest Deck, Artifacts or Eldrazi Devoid
Sol'Kanar: All spells have at least black in their costs, combine it with Krrrrrrrrrik/Bolas' Citadel and other stuff
I really want to see your takes on my actual commanders above :D
Oh man that Jedit deck idea seems really fun. Might mess around with the Chisei deck too but Jedit caught my attention.
Ok so you're messing with us with "say-guh." Alright, okay, a get it, memes and shit. But then you said "kray-ken." Did I do something to you to make you mad at me? I swear I like the videos. I'm subscribed. Just don't do me like that man.
so i suppose you're one of those people who say "cracken"?
@@edhdeckbuilding are you Canadian? lol
yes. where i come from we pronounce things phonetically. say this word to yourself: "rake". now this word: "krake". now this word: "kraken".
@@edhdeckbuilding not to dis your cute pronunciation (love the vids btw!) but the 'a' in rake is said like that because the word ends in an 'e'. That's the general rule in English. The vowel sound changes depending on the word structure. Compare 'sake' and 'sack' for example. but no hate dude, you keep doing your thing!
I'm from Maine and my mom is from North Dakota and I've met Canadians in both states (though it isn't true of all Canadians) that pronounce things weird as hell
Clockspinning for Chisei as well!! Use it in my Arixmethes deck and it would work wonders in this as well
i have that ulasht deck but reyhan and tana partners token devour deck with plus counter synergies, love ulasht, does major work in the deck
Nacatl War-Pride would be a good fit in Jedit as well, especially if your opponent doesn't have a forest
Cumulative Upkeep will put a counter on the card and IMMEDIATELY tax you for every counter. So you'd pay for at least 1 counter per turn.
I would love to see you do one for king macar the gold cursed, been a favorite of mine for a long time and I am interested in seeing how you would build it
Sosuke son of seshiro would be great in the jedith deck, he basically gives all your warriors a deathtouch like effect, so even if they block or become blocked, your opponents still have to lose advantage.
OK you convinced me. I'm building Jedit.
I'm sorry I have a question about a ruling can you remove more than one counter with chisei or is it just one per upkeep?
one per upkeep unfortunately. However, one thing you can always do is make non-ledgendary copies of chisei (helm of the host, spark double, sakashima etc.) then you can remove more.
@@nickryan3295 alright! Thank you so much for answering!
Jedit Ojanen of Efrava is such a fun name to say. It just sounds really silly to me for some reason.
I have a ulasht deck on magic online.. its token based instead of +1/+1 counters.. so i make tokens and then play ulasht.. remove his counters to make saprolings and then cast him again with more counters
Ivy Lane Denizen and Ashnod's Altar goes for infinite colorless mana and then infinite saprolings, right?
Another idea with Chisei you did not mention is any spells with suspend. You have to remove counters inorder to finally cast the spell. Chisei would allow you to cast Suspended spells earlier.
unfortunately that doesn't work. suspended cards aren't in play therefore are not permanents.
@@edhdeckbuilding oh yeah, that makes sense. Also you forgot about that one legendary land that creates that 20/20 indesctuctable flying demon thing. I cant remember the name though.
Chisei w. Dark Depths can be fun. Not the best, but fun!
Love the content. Genuinely wanna build Jedit now LOL
Does jedit's ability activate more if he attacks or blocks more? In that case you could use a lot of hundred handed one type "blocks multiple creatures" abilities to make an army.
I think it's just blocks in general. If you had multiple block steps like you can get multiple attacks, it would work but, that would never be.
Stuffy doll/brashed taunter deck! I know its obvious where you'd go with it, but I'd like to see how you pull it off.
You can also go infiinite with scurry oak and Ivy league denizen and make your commander's power infinite
Quicksilver Fountain is now a tasteful Blood Moon.
Seems like Vorinclex Monstrous Raider is a natural for the Ulasht deck and, while expensive, is much cheaper than Doubling Season and has a broader effect.
i keep forgetting that card exists.
Conjurer’s Closet with Ulasht?
How do you balance all the counter stuff in Chisei? You can only remove 1 counter a turn so having 4 things out with cumulative upkeep seems a bit much.
always fun deck builds!
Is there a decklist for the Chisei deck? :o
Do you have a deck list for chisei?
You want your saga to be at level 2. That way if you remove a counter, it triggers the 1st one again and then after your draw step it triggers the second one again. So that is 2 triggers in one turn. This wouldn't happen if you removed the counter at level 1.
Also one other cool interaction, a saga is destroyed when the last chapter has RESOLVED! So if you can remove a counter at instant speed when the last trigger is on the stack, you keep the saga around for another turn!
Nope. Saga chapters only trigger when counters are *added*, not removed. Removing a counter does not cause the previous chapter to trigger. So to repeatedly trigger the first chapter, you have to have 0 counters on it first. The reason sagas work with Chisei is because Chisei removes counters during upkeep, whereas sagas add counters immediately after the draw step (Untap > Upkeep > Draw), so you can have zero counters on the saga before the game checks and adds one more.
@@IxDreamedxIxMetxYou Oh yes, I see you're right.
Another commander you can swap Ulasht with is Thromok the Insatiable!
Can you do a quick brew for Yarok sagas? I always see Yarok with Gary or landfall but sagas. That way you have a reason to say Sag-uh some more
So I have never seen Ulasht before this video. If you have a way of getting infinite mana (and face it you're in green, it can be done), then Ulasht is a win con by himself.
I'm gonna have to put Tidal Control in my crab tribal deck because... well I mean look at it!
Sweet picks
I actually really like Jedit as a mono green commander.
Medomai's Prophecy could draw you two cards each turn on chapter 3 if you play Sensei's Divining Top, or keep cycling the same instant/sorcery with Mirari Conjecture.
that's quite the combo.
Nice vídeo as always, and I have a jedit deck token deck. Very funny, very bad.
First time you said saga I had no problem with it, who cares if you don't know how to, or can't, pronounce a word right. But the second time had me spit my drink holy shit that was funny I'm so sorry.
Could you sometime add Hikori, Dust Drinker to a poll of yours? I know that I have been quite regular for suggestions, but I just thought that you might appreciate the suggestions.
i almost did this last time. it'll be on the next one.
Please make an episode with the New Phyrexian praetors!
You know Ulasht could work as a kind of low down ghave
Demo is just watching the poll saying to himself "please don't be Akim, please don't be Akim, I already tried that once"
I wish chisei could take counters off of multiple permanents
Um...Dark Depths with Chisei...first thing I thought of.
yeah very slow though.
I think Ulasht makes a decent Dinosaur commander but its not exactly comparable to Gishath i feel.
Ulash + vigor
Lol..love how u and nikachu say Saga's..people look at me when I say it I'm my lgs
I had a friend who was SUPER hyped for dominaria - we got to the prerelease he pulls a saga in his first pack loudly says "I GOT A SAY-GUH!". Everyone in the lgs just turned and stared at us and it was horrible
so do you guys pronounce it "sogga"?
@@edhdeckbuilding I had literally never heard it pronounced any other way until I started watching your videos
@@edhdeckbuilding yes
weird. where i come from an "a" makes an "a" sound, not an "o" sound.
krayken?
Found this bc I’m building an ulasht deck
FInally!
Ulasht Aka mini mareth
Sayhgas
Sega =\= Saga
Love ya but boy the Canadian pronunciation is KILLING ME.
I used to use chisei in my Joira suspend-Deck until someone told me that does not work.. suspend really has bad support :(
I don't hear anything wrong with how you pronounce "saga" lol
bruh the heavy canadian accent is half the reason i subbed to this guy. I fucking love it
edit: you realize its great when you replace every "a" sound with the ol canadian "eh" for example: s"eh"ga