I ran into a xenophile fallen empire, and mostly they just chilled out and asked for zoo people. eventually, the contingency came to life, and them and the custodian matrix federated and beat up the awakened xenophobic empire. after the empire was destroyed and signatoried, all three fallen empires WORKED AS A MEGA TEAM and obliterated the contingency. my empire, being quite stronk, was totally prepared for a fallen empire. not three though. I died HARD.
Lol. This is why I seek to make early empires my Allies and make sure we both knock out some nearby empire to ensure survival and subjugation along with making sure we keep growing stronger until I decide to create a federation. Federations help a lot they can be a bit inconvenient sometimes but having that much strength helps especially against fallen empires.
My most glorious game was with a customize human cilization, the Terran Union. I had a Fallen Empire machine, that did nothing at all, and, at the other side of the galaxy from my position, the xenophobe. This last one Awoken and started to vassalize his neighbors, becoming more and more powerful. But me, I also was becoming strong, conquering a lot, but especially becoming a beacon of freedom and equality (imposing freedom Murica's way, basically). I had almost every existing species as citizen, and when an alien became president, I change the name of my empire for the Stars Alliance. And that was at this moment that I launched the war to end all wars against the Awakened Empire, pushing him back, helping thralls to gain back their freedom and, at the end, seizing all of their systems except a few ones (because the warscore didn't allow me to take more). With a broken empire, and the Stars Alliance now the dominant power in the galaxy, the Ancient Ones couldn't hope to make a come back anymore. The end. Oh, and you know that first alien president? It was also my best admiral, winning two wars against Hive Minds empires, a butterfly. I named him Fabulous Butterfly, and for the last was, he was commanding the First Fleet.
Started next to a fallen empire.. fought west and north away from them.. they awoke and declared war on me (I was still weak).. vassalized me and declared war literally on the entire Galaxy.. buuut let me keep the entire Galaxy o.O Since I owned everything I built up a fleet and wrecked my overlords easily lol Twas a strange game..
Most TH-cam video makers get more generic and less specialised when they work out how to sell out to the lowest common denominator and/or advertiser they're happy with. Some lose their original charm and quality, becoming metaphorical junk food/milkless milkshake... some maintain their status and remain as a quality treat, or quality staple.
@@AndrooUK I doubt you can call Spiff "generic", he's more like iconic at this point lol. Any mention of Britain, tea etc especially in conversations about cheesing games will almost definitely bring his name into the discussion. "Mainstream low effort" stuff would be reacting to tiktok and reddit videos or online drama news.
Ummmm The Spiffing Brit, the Machine Fallen Empire was created to fight the contingency, they say so if the Contingency starts. Unless you are unlucky and they go full bananas instead.
Steampunkcraft I just had this happen to me I a game. I ended up getting stuck between the two of them, both angry. I could only hold off one but not both
I had a War in Heaven where a Xenophile and Machine Empire went to war. It is weird to think that the two Empires based around protecting others ended up causing the most harm to the galaxy.
They might have different ideals about HOW the do that. the Xenophiles wants all races to rally behind them, if a endgame crisis comes along. The Machine Empire wants to safeguard organics like a servant - custodian. Basically, they might have attacked each other for no reason other than a show of force. "They might also want to protect the universe, but we can do it better!"
Yes, but the main game's updates always adds more content/bug fixes. The stuff they want for the majority of their player base is good game play, so of course they're going to add more graphical options for the *player* but not for the AI events and whatnot. For example, they could have added a new shipset for the marauders, but instead they're just reusing the pirate shipset.
A mod explains this by saying that they all got found the same technology from the precursors and dumbed them down to be able to use the ships and precursor used the same ship design but it was the real thing and they got it from another long gone empire and so on
An interesting note for those with the Synthetic Dawn DLC: Instead of having ringworlds, the Materialistic Fallen Empire has an Archive filled homeworld which containing every scrap of knowledge that empire has discovered, granting a massive boost to research if one conquers the planet.
Another interesting thing is that the Xenophilic fallen empire has a comparable world in the form of 'the preserve', and when they awaken, they remove all of the xeno preserve buildings, and they lower the rights of any non-founder alien race to a residence living in poverty. The Materialists don't do this, upon awakening, thy keep their archive buildings intact, so, maybe the materialists aren't as good as the xenophiles when it comes to letting the past go?
I think it's more like the Xenophiles see the Preserve and other species the way we do zoos. At best, they're conservation efforts trying to preserve the genetic diversity of the universe; at worst, they're for the entertainment of the population, who can stare and gawk at the scary primitives from behind the protection of a force field. The Materialists believe they've discovered all that can be known, and are trying to prevent an AI crisis from screwing the universe over. Of course, they also believe that the other non-FEs are too backward to understand, being more concerned with things like "progress" and "life improvement". Thus they resort to vassalizing empires, going over their research to ensure that no dangerous technology is being researched (i.e. the research "donation" Materialist FE subjects must give).
Oh shit really? I always just blow the planet up because it’s always out of the way of choke points and also because it’s funny. fuck I’ve been library of Alexandriaing the galaxy
With the Artifacts DLC, I found the puzzle/tomb of a Spiritualist sacred hero, and as a result was declared "the chosen ones" and got access to colonize their sacred planets.
I think there might be more to the Fallen Empires then you think. The Xenophile, Xenophobe and Spirtualists FE's all have some kind of planet in their border that is special in one way or an other. The Xenophiles have the destroyed moon 'Sister', the Xenophobes have three shielded worlds and the Spiritualsits have a broken planet called 'The Mistake'.
I didn't know that. In that case, the only FE that doesn't have some planet that's most likely connected to their backstory are the Materialists. And that's probably because in the older versions of the game, their backstory was obvious. They survived some kind of AI uprising/the Cybrex, and want to make sure something like that doesn't happen ever again.
+aquos Yea, now admittedly I haven't done much research into this but to me his explanations just didn't feel convincing from what I've seen. This is essentially what I've understood about them. Materialist: They used to be a highly technologically advanced civilisation that something happened to which caused them to turn inwards instead (previously it was quite obviously a robotic uprising but now I'm not so sure anymore). So now they just collect and preserve their, and others, technology. Which is why they're called archivist, chronicler and conserves. Spiritualist: Once a great religious empire, however they did something with the shroud that caused their collapse, now they just guard their holy planets. Xenophiles: Not sure exactly what happened to them but they were probably part of some large federation that fell. Xenophobes: Once a mighty empire built on conquest which for some reason fell. They're now the last remnants of their empire (which is why they're called remnant, shard and vestige) and desire as little contact with other empire as possible. Now I don't know were The Spiffing Brit has gotten all this information but it simply seams to contradict everything we see in the game.
I disagree with your theory about the xenophobe fallen empire. Here is a direct quote from the game: "This Awakened Empire seeks to restore its lost dominion over the galaxy. They are likely to attack any empire that does not acknowledge their overlordship." Lost dominion. Meaning they had dominion over the entire galaxy at one point. What I think is that they dominated the galaxy, but then, looking back with moral disgust, stagnated, and eventually regressed back to their current borders. Why do I think this, you may ask? Well, during the event chain for the shielded world in the fallen empire, you can get an event where an admiral from the xenophobe fallen empire reveals he had become a symbol of hate, so he was banished to the shielded world.
I kind of like the mystery behind what it is exactly what the Fallen Empires did, but it is interesting to hear the admirals stories. I can only imagine how violent the past of my galaxy was.
Maybe he didtn have the chance to do that quest himself. I have 1374 hours played in Stellaris since its release and i have only seen the shielded planet one time and i coudn do anything with it since it was bugged back then.
I had the shielded world in my last play through . The guy on theire said he was accused of war crimes and locked behind the shield in a time suppressed state. He became a lv10 admiral but I never gave him my strongest fleet, you know just in case.
you've gotten the materialist empire completely wrong, possibly due to misinterpreting the phrase materialist into materialistic which means wealth focused in common parlance. However in the context of stellaris materialist means only materialistic in terms of focus on the tangible rather than the intangible, the Materialist fallen empire is hyper focused on science, they consider other science focused peoples (aka those discovering stuff) a positive, they only get mad when you research AI or other dangerous technology because they think the younger races aren't ready for that knowledge and couldn't handle the potential consequences of unleashing it. They don't care about money, at all, they care about knowledge and making sure knowledge is used responsibly.
A Gaia moon orbiting a Gaia planet. Yo.... that's a nice system you got there... can I have it? On one of my early playthroughs (I got the game on Christmas, so that's not saying much, lol), an awoken materialist empire that was in the middle of expanding asked if I wanted to be protected because I was progressing too rapidly or something like that. Being the idiot that I was, I accepted! And what do you know, I was vassalized into their empire. I built up my fleet, and declared my independence a few years later, I won by darting in and out of a few of their systems, and waiting it out, finally they accepted. And within a few years, the AI contingency came over to say hi. :')
I stupidly decided to become a Signatory of a Xenophile Fallen Empire that i'm bordering with yet everyone else was invited to a Federation, despite me being one of the largest empire in the galaxy long live the Earth Federation i guess
+JohnathanToolonie Well that's still basically only one empire, or two if you're feeling suicidal. You get to choose how badly you get fucked in that situation, although by the time War in Heaven fires you should already be able to handle at least one.
Me: *builds synths* Materialists: >:( Contingency comes. Cybrex return. Caretakers awaken. Materialists awaken. War in heaven. So that's how I destroyed the galaxy by accident.
Yep, it's a very unique planet, they claim that its a 'preserve' like a ark. However, it's possible these benevolent xenophiles have actually become slightly psychopathic, and are keeping them as some weird collection.
WARNING: WALL OF TEXT. IF YOU DON'T WANT TEXTUAL BUKKAKE, AVOID THIS COMMENT. You can get some interesting insight into the mindset of the core four Fallen Empires if you are Psionic, and get a random Shroud event: --- We are looking down upon our galaxy from far above, at a distance of what must be hundreds of thousands of lightyears. Without warning, the psionic current plunges us down towards the myriad stars at an incredible speed, into the region of space belonging to one of the Fallen Empires - the [fallen_empire.GetName]. Stars swish by, then planets, until the vision finally settled on a [fallen_empire.GetSpeciesName] city. Incredible spires rise towards the sky, aided by anti-grav technology generations beyond our own. The current takes us into such a spire, through wall after wall until we reach a large meeting room of sorts. It is occupied by two [fallen_empire.GetSpeciesNamePlural], floating comfortably in zero-gravity chairs while conversing with each other in soft voices. They are oblivious to our presence. The [fallen_empire.GetSpeciesNamePlural] are clearly dignitaries of some kind, discussing matters of state. Slowly, surely, the vision encroaches upon them while their alien speech is gradually transformed into words that have meaning to us. Then you get one of three conversations: --- 1) "...is mad. If she thinks that the people would be willing to accept even a momentary lapse in the living standards that they have grown accustomed to, there is..." The mind-glow of the two [fallen_empire.GetSpeciesNamePlural] is overwhelming. Like a blossoming flower, their minds open and are laid bare. It would be so easy to reach in. "...don't care what the Council says. The upstarts are still millennia behind us, and their miserable fleets can no more threaten us than a Gazurian gnat could consume a Hilaxi fire lizard. There is no need for..." --- 2) "...is a disgrace. Imagine if the younger races were to even suspect that we no longer fully understand our own technology! We must..." The mind-glow of the two [fallen_empire.GetSpeciesNamePlural] is overwhelming. Like a blossoming flower, their minds open and are laid bare. It would be so easy to reach in. "...still think punitive actions are uncalled for. They are young and careless, but so were we once upon a time. There is still time for them to..." --- 3) "...are growing more and more powerful. Elements of the Council are convinced that unless we take action..." The mind-glow of the two [fallen_empire.GetSpeciesNamePlural] is overwhelming. Like a blossoming flower, their minds open and are laid bare. It would be so easy to reach in. "...and that perhaps we should have taken steps to cull the younger races before they grew too powerful. I have to say that I agree with him, but the Council feels that it is too late now to..." --- After this, you get the following option: Option: Reach into their minds in search of secrets. There. Technological secrets plucked from the recesses of their minds, as easy as one would copy a file from an unlocked computer. The [fallen_empire.GetSpeciesNamePlural] remain ignorant of the theft that has taken place within their very minds. At which point you get an unresearched high level technology: Living Metal Tech, Dark Matter Drawing, Neutronium Extraction, Neutronium Materials, Antimatter Power, Zero Point Power, Climate Restoration, Gaia Creation, Nutrient Replication, Applied Superconductivity. The mechanic is it starts at the first of this list and scans downward until it finds one, hence Applied Superconductivity at the end. This allows this event to fire with a reward even if you have everything already. --- Of course, there is also a 40% chance the event will backfire, where you get the following: The [fallen_empire.GetSpeciesNamePlural] are clearly dignitaries of some kind, discussing matters of state. Slowly, surely, the vision encroaches upon them while their alien speech is gradually transformed into words that have meaning to us. Suddenly, the aliens go quiet and very still. "Can you feel it?" "Yes. Someone is watching." Their eyes search the room until both of them are staring directly at us. "Remarkable. A psionic probe." "It appears [Root.GetSpeciesName] in origin. Quickly, activate the transplanar shield." The vision ends abruptly. --- Then they contact you to tell you off: [Root.GetSpeciesNamePlural]. Do not think that your loathsome attempt to invade the minds of our leaders has gone unnoticed. There will be consequences. You then take a diplomatic hit. --- But as you can see, there are insights into the Fallen Empires. They are showing their failures - one of the conversations shows they are a decadent nation, a race of creatures that are used to creature comfort, unwilling to show austerity so that they may reignite their once proud nation. Another shows they are embarrassed for themselves, they are unable to comprehend their own technology. This isn't that surprising. Look at how many people, specifically, YOUNG people who proudly say things like "I don't know much about computers" with regards to simple tasks/activities. And finally, they desire to cull the herd of the races, but the government feel that while they could at one time, they are past the apex when it could be sensible. Quite interesting, really.
That shroud event is definitely the most interesting, next to the visions of an apocalypse one, it gives us the biggest insight to the fallen empires yet!
JakeSpacePirate E Indeed! The shroud events in general are quite interesting, if time is taken to read them. I admit I am pretty bad and often skip over text in events but they can be insightful or just plain interesting if time is taken to read/think about them.
Hey spiff, thanks for this ancient video, I've always been interested in the fallen empire lore, plus the lore of this game always intrigued me, especially now with Nemesis.
I was getting my teeth kicked in by the preyorthean scourge until the Xenophilic fallen empire forced there way into my last second defense federation. Once then prevorthean died a fallen empire awakened basically right after...
finally went back to that world to play a bit more of it... the Spiritualist FE gave me an ultimatum to join or die.... I still managed to keep my federation from breaking apart (including the Xenophilic). An galactic wide war ensued... and once it was all over my game hard crashed and basically deleted all my fackin progress
i really love when war in heaven happened and every galactic empires, kingdoms or nations joined together in union federation to combat them both and eventually they offer peace. man that was so satisfying and really looked like somthing in science fiction stories.
@@timothymclean xenophobe: some xenophobe empires are lost dominions rather than isolationist, and want to conquer just about everything. You got resources? Space? Planets? They want em.
There's actually 2 types of xenophobic fallen Empires, the one you explained are Militarant isolationists, the 2nd type, the one you didn't explain are the xenophobic isolationists, they are fanatic xenophobes just like always but when they awake "which is super rare" they are pacifists instead of militaristic, I designed the Empire i play just like that, we are xenophobic isolationists and we are very peaceful unless you build near our borders or don't leave us alone then you opened up a shit storm lol.
It would be cool if there was a chance for a citizen of a Fallen Empire to defect and approach your empire with the offer to join you as a scientist, general, etc., or just give you a flat research bonus because they think you are more likely to carry out ascension or some other grand goal than the Fallen Empires that have deliberately chosen not to continue progressing towards. Of course, accepting them into your empire would hurt your relations with the Fallen Empire as a tradeoff for whatever benefit they give you.
Ok. I already watched your completely balanced series. I just started playing stellaris and decided why not ill Google lore and guess who does it lol. But I've been watching the Playlist and the fallen machine empire is legit.. the empire I just made.. my first empire. Their (The Protectorate) backstory is that they were built by a long dead empire to defend the capital worlds as a sort of final sanction and defense against an oncoming threat. Centuries later they are still defending empty worlds. I just took a few stars and have been kinda turtling with my defense building up while I learn game systems.
I had a Fallen Empire setup a black site on one of my planets (one that was utterly worthless so that was good) a while later, it exploded and spawned a fleet that was a pain in the ass to get rid of, because it was out of the way and I didn't have jump drives yet. Pain in the ass.
Ahh, the Spiritualists... I was playing my "Imperium of Man" (Fanatic Spiritualist, Militarist Empire) and Spiritualists were the first ones I encountered. I was still pretty fresh at the game (not "how do I build farms" fresh, but still pretty n00b) and I didn't know much about dealing with them. I discovered 25 size Gaia World with trait Holly World (+15% Happynes for Spiritualist Empire Pops I belive) and Immidieatly I've setteled it... Didn't know what that meant at the time... Turns out that the spiritualist fallen empire of cosmich butterflies didn't like me setteling 1)Sacred Planet and 2)Close to their border... It didn't end Well for my begining Imperium...
This one fallen empire had taken a particular liking to me, but hadn't awoken, so I basically just sat there giving them money to try to get them to not kill me when they awoke.
One of my allies declared war on a xenophobic empire and dragged me and my alliance into that and I was like "why do you even exist", needless to say I died.
I love Stellaris, thanks for fleshing out the background of fallen empires. That was illuminating. I think perhaps it would be neat to add some mechanic for late game to risk having YOUR empire regress. Like you say those empires missed the mark, perhaps you could have quests/missions or face having your empire regress. End game is a bit dull.
Well we already know what the Fallen Machine Empire is for: It's a safe haven for organics to flee to when the Contingency awakens.... But if the contingency isn't the end game Crisis then it might actually be around for another unknown purpose. But as far as i know, the Fallen Machine Empire awakens and fights against the Contingency if that's the End Game Crisis. Or I might just be remembering incorrectly XD
Brit....the spiritualists do/did have contact with the shroud since in heavens gate ( the back hole in their space ) there's a shrouded planet called apostasy.
I know it’s just a theory but I believe for the Spiritual empire. If you ever search their home world they have some planets like. “The Cradle, The Mother,” etc. But there is also a destroy planet called. “The Mistake.” This to me means that maybe they “cleansed” this planet and thus the Species feels great remorse for this and stop ascending the religious path because of this. Or maybe the created a tech or such to destroy this planet by accident and thus feel the same way.
Or Spritualists made a faustian bargian with the one of the Shorud entities and eventually got screwed over. They are dealing with downsides of the Shroud covenant
Playing a machine race, with the fallen machine empire in contact at the time of the contingency uprising, I had some interesting dialog from the empire about my firewalls. Of course, the fallen empire offered me an upgrade to my code which resulted in a crash and diminished my population for years (although I did get a buff from it in another campaign). What I found strange was that after beating the 4 machine world's, the 5th and final machine world was literally inside of the machine fallen empires borders... Coincidence? Or perhaps one big galactic test of worthiness? After the crisis was defeated the fallen empire simply left, a bit of dialog ensued, but all of their territory was abandoned.
i discovered one of the fallen ai empires , if nice to them they eventually help to upgrade your robots and if playing as AI yourself can eventually merge creating a permit sort of peace treaty and they be classed as drones and it like having auto conquer and get to build them
One time it took so long for one of the fallen empires to awake in my game, that by the time they did their technology and fleet power was considered inferior to the rest of the galaxy.
My friend and I are doing a game that had two fallen empires, a spiritualist and a materialist. The spiritualist fallen empire ended up becoming an Awakened Empire, and completely destroyed the fallen empire. They also made the only two nations not involved with the federation dominions of them.
Just happened in my game im going through right now, thefallen machine empire will upload a code to your citizens if you are also a machine empire and it increases upkeep cost for a time then it will increase mineral production after that subsides.
I'm sure someone else stated this BUT the materialist FE no longer have ring worlds, only the Machine FE has a ring world. Other than that awesome vid. Keep doing the good work and feel better!
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In the new Distant Stars DLC I've had an AI fallen empire contact my AI hive mind to offer to upgrade my programming. I'm sure it could go horribly wrong but for me I got a bonus of like 10% increase to my research stacking with my trait bonus of intelligent
Materialism in Stellaris is a philosophy not a lifestyle. It's to accept only the material world as real and to discard all else (ideals) as false. It's not at all a quest for wealth.
from very beginning Materialism isn't about Wealth or Meterial but philosophy but thanks to Church's Propaganda most people regard Materialist as Selfish and Greedy Cunt who only care about him/herself.
I remember I defeated the prethoryn scourge before the 2nd wave could arrive after that I was pretty ballsy and was mobilizing to make war on a nearby fallen empire at the time I could have taken them out but then a event showed up saying that the fallen empire awakened to combat the scourge I took out and when before they had like 300,000 fleet power then doubled to 600,000 I was so angry I took out my aggression on nearby empires
There's a mod that allows you to play as a fallen empire. However in the mod, you succeeded and ascended to a higher plane of existence. These are the eternal realms. The mod makes you so op though that you can go to 30 million fleet power in the first hundred in game years
You must likely have a pretty good sound system. I've noticed that people just using their cell phones normally sound at least okay and the people that have that muddy talking into a bucket sound normally have a pretty good system. They still sound worse for some reason.
I have one I like I was next to a devouring horde it looked like I was doomed to get crushed. But lucky for me they pissed of a fallen empire after they lost a war I came in and finished them off.
Fallen Xenophilic Empire: Your speicies is small and will not last long, let us protect you in our endangered species program. My Empire: 300 pop, 15K Fleet, 25 Worlds. "Ummm okay..."
The real reason for Fallen Empires is the developers thought the game should be played in a certain manner and certain way and these were there to force players to stay within the boundries of the planned development. But they were so unpopular and hated that the first patch added a feature to disable Fallen empires in a game set-up.
my fav stellaris exploit is to back a few fallen empires into dead ends and then do something to upset them and get a free 100 influence every time i humiliate them.
I had two fallen Xenophobe empires start a war in heaven but since they were on opposite sides of the galaxy they couldn't fight eachother. And then a crisis event happened and of course it started in a system with a planet so it's destroyed but still there. On the Up side basically every fleet is there apart from xenophobes. Because of the crisis I actually managed to build up a single fleet that broke the xenophobes next to me by engaging their two fleets that together were stronger than mine but apart could be destroyed. After i conquered them I moved on to breaking both fallen empires with a new superfleet.
I didn't know this side of Lore series Spiff. Honestly I thought in this video I was waiting to heard you talk about exploiting this game or talk about how good tea is! xD
It looks like that my science ship has stumbled upon this old prehistoric relic of an entity that we named "Spiffing Menace", hence i ordered my science ship to research this anomaly
Materialism in stellaris referes not to wealth but to philosophical materialism AE there is no supernatural force. IT is super atheism und science based thinking...
I was playing a game for over 48 hours... all 5 fallen empires decided to declare war on me at the same time... no reason given. I guess I was *disrespectful* in that I completely ignored their existence, save for avoiding their triggers... There goes that save.
It's a pity we can't create our own super systems when we get sufficiently advanced. I mean, I've basically cleared through the entire tech tree, what do you mean I can't convert the moon around my home world into a Gaia world?
How to befriend everyone as the blorg. Step one, be militaristic. Step 2: Invade your closest neighbors personal space and hug them until they submit to friendship. Step 3: see step 2.step four:repeats steps 2 and 3 until you find brain slugs. Step 5. Become the Goa’uld system lords, and break up the galaxy into proper warring nations.
I ran into a xenophile fallen empire, and mostly they just chilled out and asked for zoo people. eventually, the contingency came to life, and them and the custodian matrix federated and beat up the awakened xenophobic empire. after the empire was destroyed and signatoried, all three fallen empires WORKED AS A MEGA TEAM and obliterated the contingency. my empire, being quite stronk, was totally prepared for a fallen empire. not three though. I died HARD.
RIP
Damn they just wanted zoo people lol
the mega-empire has come for your lands
Lol.
This is why I seek to make early empires my Allies and make sure we both knock out some nearby empire to ensure survival and subjugation along with making sure we keep growing stronger until I decide to create a federation.
Federations help a lot they can be a bit inconvenient sometimes but having that much strength helps especially against fallen empires.
How do you even lose against an FE. They’re so weak it’s almost funny.
My most glorious game was with a customize human cilization, the Terran Union. I had a Fallen Empire machine, that did nothing at all, and, at the other side of the galaxy from my position, the xenophobe. This last one Awoken and started to vassalize his neighbors, becoming more and more powerful. But me, I also was becoming strong, conquering a lot, but especially becoming a beacon of freedom and equality (imposing freedom Murica's way, basically). I had almost every existing species as citizen, and when an alien became president, I change the name of my empire for the Stars Alliance. And that was at this moment that I launched the war to end all wars against the Awakened Empire, pushing him back, helping thralls to gain back their freedom and, at the end, seizing all of their systems except a few ones (because the warscore didn't allow me to take more). With a broken empire, and the Stars Alliance now the dominant power in the galaxy, the Ancient Ones couldn't hope to make a come back anymore. The end.
Oh, and you know that first alien president? It was also my best admiral, winning two wars against Hive Minds empires, a butterfly. I named him Fabulous Butterfly, and for the last was, he was commanding the First Fleet.
@Eros Matthew Montallana i agree
*_That's lots of heresy there I see_*
So that alien president was essentially the Dwight D Eisenhower of your empires time? Lol
@@sockshandle Sound about right.
Started next to a fallen empire.. fought west and north away from them.. they awoke and declared war on me (I was still weak).. vassalized me and declared war literally on the entire Galaxy.. buuut let me keep the entire Galaxy o.O
Since I owned everything I built up a fleet and wrecked my overlords easily lol
Twas a strange game..
"We can run your new conquests for you, oh great overlords."
"Sure, sounds good, just pay your taxes. Can't think of any way this'd backfire on me..."
Props to when Spiff was a smaller youtuber and did Stellaris lore video. Wish he made more but I doubt it will ever happen
Most TH-cam video makers get more generic and less specialised when they work out how to sell out to the lowest common denominator and/or advertiser they're happy with.
Some lose their original charm and quality, becoming metaphorical junk food/milkless milkshake... some maintain their status and remain as a quality treat, or quality staple.
@@AndrooUK I feel like he stayed specialised, but changed the specialism to "Abusing poor videogame systems, and hyper British imperialism"
just realized this was a spiffing brit video half way through lol
@@wow-roblox8370 yeah he found his audience and his specific identity, that's why I said that I doubt he will do these ever again.
@@AndrooUK I doubt you can call Spiff "generic", he's more like iconic at this point lol. Any mention of Britain, tea etc especially in conversations about cheesing games will almost definitely bring his name into the discussion. "Mainstream low effort" stuff would be reacting to tiktok and reddit videos or online drama news.
Ummmm The Spiffing Brit, the Machine Fallen Empire was created to fight the contingency, they say so if the Contingency starts. Unless you are unlucky and they go full bananas instead.
Contingency fighting is their prime directive, helping refugees is secondary.
Steampunkcraft I just had this happen to me I a game. I ended up getting stuck between the two of them, both angry. I could only hold off one but not both
Thank you for that, that's what I came here for lol.
I had a War in Heaven where a Xenophile and Machine Empire went to war.
It is weird to think that the two Empires based around protecting others ended up causing the most harm to the galaxy.
They might have different ideals about HOW the do that. the Xenophiles wants all races to rally behind them, if a endgame crisis comes along. The Machine Empire wants to safeguard organics like a servant - custodian. Basically, they might have attacked each other for no reason other than a show of force. "They might also want to protect the universe, but we can do it better!"
But machine fallen empires can't be a part of a war in heaven
Dr.ChickenNugget yes they can lol
USA and Soviet Union space version XD
the path to hell is paved with good intentions
It would be cool if the different fallen empires had different shipsets instead of the same ships in different colors.
That's true, although I think the devs are trying to focus on game play rather than aesthetics.
Yes, but the main game's updates always adds more content/bug fixes. The stuff they want for the majority of their player base is good game play, so of course they're going to add more graphical options for the *player* but not for the AI events and whatnot.
For example, they could have added a new shipset for the marauders, but instead they're just reusing the pirate shipset.
@@thatsomeone3818 Good things that mods are there :)
A mod explains this by saying that they all got found the same technology from the precursors and dumbed them down to be able to use the ships and precursor used the same ship design but it was the real thing and they got it from another long gone empire and so on
Theory: maybe all of the fallen empires are connected somehow and took divergent paths?
An interesting note for those with the Synthetic Dawn DLC:
Instead of having ringworlds, the Materialistic Fallen Empire has an Archive filled homeworld which containing every scrap of knowledge that empire has discovered, granting a massive boost to research if one conquers the planet.
Another interesting thing is that the Xenophilic fallen empire has a comparable world in the form of 'the preserve', and when they awaken, they remove all of the xeno preserve buildings, and they lower the rights of any non-founder alien race to a residence living in poverty. The Materialists don't do this, upon awakening, thy keep their archive buildings intact, so, maybe the materialists aren't as good as the xenophiles when it comes to letting the past go?
I think it's more like the Xenophiles see the Preserve and other species the way we do zoos. At best, they're conservation efforts trying to preserve the genetic diversity of the universe; at worst, they're for the entertainment of the population, who can stare and gawk at the scary primitives from behind the protection of a force field.
The Materialists believe they've discovered all that can be known, and are trying to prevent an AI crisis from screwing the universe over. Of course, they also believe that the other non-FEs are too backward to understand, being more concerned with things like "progress" and "life improvement". Thus they resort to vassalizing empires, going over their research to ensure that no dangerous technology is being researched (i.e. the research "donation" Materialist FE subjects must give).
The chroniclers of knowledge?
Oh shit really? I always just blow the planet up because it’s always out of the way of choke points and also because it’s funny. fuck I’ve been library of Alexandriaing the galaxy
@@roboraptor9270 welp, there go those translation keys for ancient alien texts…
With the Artifacts DLC, I found the puzzle/tomb of a Spiritualist sacred hero, and as a result was declared "the chosen ones" and got access to colonize their sacred planets.
You also get to summon fleets by using it now
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I think there might be more to the Fallen Empires then you think. The Xenophile, Xenophobe and Spirtualists FE's all have some kind of planet in their border that is special in one way or an other. The Xenophiles have the destroyed moon 'Sister', the Xenophobes have three shielded worlds and the Spiritualsits have a broken planet called 'The Mistake'.
the machine empire's processing core is destroyed by a supernova too
I didn't know that. In that case, the only FE that doesn't have some planet that's most likely connected to their backstory are the Materialists. And that's probably because in the older versions of the game, their backstory was obvious. They survived some kind of AI uprising/the Cybrex, and want to make sure something like that doesn't happen ever again.
If a Black Hole spawns within a Spiritualists space, they also get a planet called "Apostasy" around it - a Shrouded World.
+aquos Yea, now admittedly I haven't done much research into this but to me his explanations just didn't feel convincing from what I've seen. This is essentially what I've understood about them.
Materialist: They used to be a highly technologically advanced civilisation that something happened to which caused them to turn inwards instead (previously it was quite obviously a robotic uprising but now I'm not so sure anymore). So now they just collect and preserve their, and others, technology. Which is why they're called archivist, chronicler and conserves.
Spiritualist: Once a great religious empire, however they did something with the shroud that caused their collapse, now they just guard their holy planets.
Xenophiles: Not sure exactly what happened to them but they were probably part of some large federation that fell.
Xenophobes: Once a mighty empire built on conquest which for some reason fell. They're now the last remnants of their empire (which is why they're called remnant, shard and vestige) and desire as little contact with other empire as possible.
Now I don't know were The Spiffing Brit has gotten all this information but it simply seams to contradict everything we see in the game.
I honestly don't think there's one canon answer to this. But I agree, Brit's explanations don't make too much sense with what we've got in game.
I disagree with your theory about the xenophobe fallen empire. Here is a direct quote from the game: "This Awakened Empire seeks to restore its lost dominion over the galaxy. They are likely to attack any empire that does not acknowledge their overlordship." Lost dominion. Meaning they had dominion over the entire galaxy at one point. What I think is that they dominated the galaxy, but then, looking back with moral disgust, stagnated, and eventually regressed back to their current borders. Why do I think this, you may ask? Well, during the event chain for the shielded world in the fallen empire, you can get an event where an admiral from the xenophobe fallen empire reveals he had become a symbol of hate, so he was banished to the shielded world.
Lol yeah he completely didn't go over that
I kind of like the mystery behind what it is exactly what the Fallen Empires did, but it is interesting to hear the admirals stories. I can only imagine how violent the past of my galaxy was.
Maybe he didtn have the chance to do that quest himself. I have 1374 hours played in Stellaris since its release and i have only seen the shielded planet one time and i coudn do anything with it since it was bugged back then.
Space Person I had that same event with the shield world. A platypus alien that was a max lvl Admiral with some pretty great bonuses
I had the shielded world in my last play through . The guy on theire said he was accused of war crimes and locked behind the shield in a time suppressed state. He became a lv10 admiral but I never gave him my strongest fleet, you know just in case.
you've gotten the materialist empire completely wrong, possibly due to misinterpreting the phrase materialist into materialistic which means wealth focused in common parlance. However in the context of stellaris materialist means only materialistic in terms of focus on the tangible rather than the intangible, the Materialist fallen empire is hyper focused on science, they consider other science focused peoples (aka those discovering stuff) a positive, they only get mad when you research AI or other dangerous technology because they think the younger races aren't ready for that knowledge and couldn't handle the potential consequences of unleashing it. They don't care about money, at all, they care about knowledge and making sure knowledge is used responsibly.
Yeah, they are meant to be a counterbalance to spiritualists
A Gaia moon orbiting a Gaia planet.
Yo.... that's a nice system you got there... can I have it?
On one of my early playthroughs (I got the game on Christmas, so that's not saying much, lol), an awoken materialist empire that was in the middle of expanding asked if I wanted to be protected because I was progressing too rapidly or something like that. Being the idiot that I was, I accepted! And what do you know, I was vassalized into their empire. I built up my fleet, and declared my independence a few years later, I won by darting in and out of a few of their systems, and waiting it out, finally they accepted.
And within a few years, the AI contingency came over to say hi. :')
The Spiffing Brit oh, really xD
Awesome lore videos though, I love these
In my current campaign, I have a system with 4 gaia planets. It's beautiful
Scott Shaw you really lucked out xD
Me too xD
I stupidly decided to become a Signatory of a Xenophile Fallen Empire that i'm bordering with
yet everyone else was invited to a Federation, despite me being one of the largest empire in the galaxy
long live the Earth Federation i guess
one time I spawned right next to the most aggresive Fallen empire, unsuprisingly I got destroyed
one time i did a thing too, funny how that works
Try being between two of them and both awakened and are rivals.
+JohnathanToolonie Well that's still basically only one empire, or two if you're feeling suicidal. You get to choose how badly you get fucked in that situation, although by the time War in Heaven fires you should already be able to handle at least one.
Me: *builds synths*
Materialists: >:(
Contingency comes.
Cybrex return.
Caretakers awaken.
Materialists awaken.
War in heaven.
So that's how I destroyed the galaxy by accident.
Why would materialist hate you for building synths?
Xenophiles also have their zoo planets where every tile is inhabited by a different xeno
Yep, it's a very unique planet, they claim that its a 'preserve' like a ark. However, it's possible these benevolent xenophiles have actually become slightly psychopathic, and are keeping them as some weird collection.
WARNING: WALL OF TEXT. IF YOU DON'T WANT TEXTUAL BUKKAKE, AVOID THIS COMMENT.
You can get some interesting insight into the mindset of the core four Fallen Empires if you are Psionic, and get a random Shroud event:
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We are looking down upon our galaxy from far above, at a distance of what must be hundreds of thousands of lightyears. Without warning, the psionic current plunges us down towards the myriad stars at an incredible speed, into the region of space belonging to one of the Fallen Empires - the [fallen_empire.GetName]. Stars swish by, then planets, until the vision finally settled on a [fallen_empire.GetSpeciesName] city. Incredible spires rise towards the sky, aided by anti-grav technology generations beyond our own. The current takes us into such a spire, through wall after wall until we reach a large meeting room of sorts. It is occupied by two [fallen_empire.GetSpeciesNamePlural], floating comfortably in zero-gravity chairs while conversing with each other in soft voices. They are oblivious to our presence.
The [fallen_empire.GetSpeciesNamePlural] are clearly dignitaries of some kind, discussing matters of state. Slowly, surely, the vision encroaches upon them while their alien speech is gradually transformed into words that have meaning to us.
Then you get one of three conversations:
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1) "...is mad. If she thinks that the people would be willing to accept even a momentary lapse in the living standards that they have grown accustomed to, there is..."
The mind-glow of the two [fallen_empire.GetSpeciesNamePlural] is overwhelming. Like a blossoming flower, their minds open and are laid bare. It would be so easy to reach in.
"...don't care what the Council says. The upstarts are still millennia behind us, and their miserable fleets can no more threaten us than a Gazurian gnat could consume a Hilaxi fire lizard. There is no need for..."
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2) "...is a disgrace. Imagine if the younger races were to even suspect that we no longer fully understand our own technology! We must..."
The mind-glow of the two [fallen_empire.GetSpeciesNamePlural] is overwhelming. Like a blossoming flower, their minds open and are laid bare. It would be so easy to reach in.
"...still think punitive actions are uncalled for. They are young and careless, but so were we once upon a time. There is still time for them to..."
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3) "...are growing more and more powerful. Elements of the Council are convinced that unless we take action..."
The mind-glow of the two [fallen_empire.GetSpeciesNamePlural] is overwhelming. Like a blossoming flower, their minds open and are laid bare. It would be so easy to reach in.
"...and that perhaps we should have taken steps to cull the younger races before they grew too powerful. I have to say that I agree with him, but the Council feels that it is too late now to..."
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After this, you get the following option:
Option: Reach into their minds in search of secrets.
There. Technological secrets plucked from the recesses of their minds, as easy as one would copy a file from an unlocked computer. The [fallen_empire.GetSpeciesNamePlural] remain ignorant of the theft that has taken place within their very minds.
At which point you get an unresearched high level technology: Living Metal Tech, Dark Matter Drawing, Neutronium Extraction, Neutronium Materials, Antimatter Power, Zero Point Power, Climate Restoration, Gaia Creation, Nutrient Replication, Applied Superconductivity.
The mechanic is it starts at the first of this list and scans downward until it finds one, hence Applied Superconductivity at the end. This allows this event to fire with a reward even if you have everything already.
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Of course, there is also a 40% chance the event will backfire, where you get the following:
The [fallen_empire.GetSpeciesNamePlural] are clearly dignitaries of some kind, discussing matters of state. Slowly, surely, the vision encroaches upon them while their alien speech is gradually transformed into words that have meaning to us. Suddenly, the aliens go quiet and very still.
"Can you feel it?"
"Yes. Someone is watching."
Their eyes search the room until both of them are staring directly at us. "Remarkable. A psionic probe."
"It appears [Root.GetSpeciesName] in origin. Quickly, activate the transplanar shield." The vision ends abruptly.
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Then they contact you to tell you off:
[Root.GetSpeciesNamePlural]. Do not think that your loathsome attempt to invade the minds of our leaders has gone unnoticed. There will be consequences.
You then take a diplomatic hit.
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But as you can see, there are insights into the Fallen Empires. They are showing their failures - one of the conversations shows they are a decadent nation, a race of creatures that are used to creature comfort, unwilling to show austerity so that they may reignite their once proud nation. Another shows they are embarrassed for themselves, they are unable to comprehend their own technology. This isn't that surprising. Look at how many people, specifically, YOUNG people who proudly say things like "I don't know much about computers" with regards to simple tasks/activities. And finally, they desire to cull the herd of the races, but the government feel that while they could at one time, they are past the apex when it could be sensible.
Quite interesting, really.
That shroud event is definitely the most interesting, next to the visions of an apocalypse one, it gives us the biggest insight to the fallen empires yet!
JakeSpacePirate E Indeed! The shroud events in general are quite interesting, if time is taken to read them. I admit I am pretty bad and often skip over text in events but they can be insightful or just plain interesting if time is taken to read/think about them.
that was very informative. nice you shared it with us. i personaly never went got the psionic thing this far.
A Sometimes TH-camr do you have anything better to do than write this comment?!
Damn, I can't imagine how such unbelievably comfortable living standards would shape the collective consciousness.
What does it mean that they didn’t “ascend”? What happened to the empires that did ascend?
Probably became mutated and became the unbidden scourge etc
The Ascended Empires are the Precursors and all we know is they are either dead or became an Endgame Crisis xd
cool kids ascend to another dimension :D
Bloody xenophiles wanting me to sign a peace pact, and right next to my home world, out numbered and paradox AI to help me
Hey spiff, thanks for this ancient video, I've always been interested in the fallen empire lore, plus the lore of this game always intrigued me, especially now with Nemesis.
I was getting my teeth kicked in by the preyorthean scourge until the Xenophilic fallen empire forced there way into my last second defense federation. Once then prevorthean died a fallen empire awakened basically right after...
finally went back to that world to play a bit more of it... the Spiritualist FE gave me an ultimatum to join or die.... I still managed to keep my federation from breaking apart (including the Xenophilic). An galactic wide war ensued... and once it was all over my game hard crashed and basically deleted all my fackin progress
Karwaffle tragic...
The materialist fallen empire has no more ringworlds. They have normal planets. Only the machine empire has the ringworlds anymore.
Palatal District
Trade District
Agrarian District
Industrial District
Eternal Bastion
- May we remember them.
Huh? I just had that empire in 2.0.1, they were there. Was there a change I missed?
Only if you have Synthethic Dawn DLC with the Machine Fallen Empire
i really love when war in heaven happened and every galactic empires, kingdoms or nations joined together in union federation to combat them both and eventually they offer peace. man that was so satisfying and really looked like somthing in science fiction stories.
"Super Space America" -The Spiffing Brit 2018
Which makes me wonder which empire is Super Space Great Britain. Their empire had its century, after all.
@@timothymclean xenophobe: some xenophobe empires are lost dominions rather than isolationist, and want to conquer just about everything.
You got resources? Space? Planets? They want em.
Im american and it hits the nail on the head. Obsessed with "wealth" and so against progress it will even prevent it for others, just because.
There's actually 2 types of xenophobic fallen Empires, the one you explained are Militarant isolationists, the 2nd type, the one you didn't explain are the xenophobic isolationists, they are fanatic xenophobes just like always but when they awake "which is super rare" they are pacifists instead of militaristic, I designed the Empire i play just like that, we are xenophobic isolationists and we are very peaceful unless you build near our borders or don't leave us alone then you opened up a shit storm lol.
That's actually a good idea, especially if you are in a rich system.
Lore, lore, LORE, *LORE*
Schon sind die Madchen
Schon Madchen gibt es uberall!
Und kommt der Frühling in das Tal
It would be cool if there was a chance for a citizen of a Fallen Empire to defect and approach your empire with the offer to join you as a scientist, general, etc., or just give you a flat research bonus because they think you are more likely to carry out ascension or some other grand goal than the Fallen Empires that have deliberately chosen not to continue progressing towards. Of course, accepting them into your empire would hurt your relations with the Fallen Empire as a tradeoff for whatever benefit they give you.
Ok. I already watched your completely balanced series. I just started playing stellaris and decided why not ill Google lore and guess who does it lol. But I've been watching the Playlist and the fallen machine empire is legit.. the empire I just made.. my first empire. Their (The Protectorate) backstory is that they were built by a long dead empire to defend the capital worlds as a sort of final sanction and defense against an oncoming threat. Centuries later they are still defending empty worlds. I just took a few stars and have been kinda turtling with my defense building up while I learn game systems.
I had a Fallen Empire setup a black site on one of my planets (one that was utterly worthless so that was good) a while later, it exploded and spawned a fleet that was a pain in the ass to get rid of, because it was out of the way and I didn't have jump drives yet. Pain in the ass.
That’s from a mod, but it’s still funni
the voice / music balance was nice. after all when telling a story you want to be able to hear the teller.
Ahh, the Spiritualists...
I was playing my "Imperium of Man" (Fanatic Spiritualist, Militarist Empire) and Spiritualists were the first ones I encountered. I was still pretty fresh at the game (not "how do I build farms" fresh, but still pretty n00b) and I didn't know much about dealing with them. I discovered 25 size Gaia World with trait Holly World (+15% Happynes for Spiritualist Empire Pops I belive) and Immidieatly I've setteled it... Didn't know what that meant at the time...
Turns out that the spiritualist fallen empire of cosmich butterflies didn't like me setteling 1)Sacred Planet and 2)Close to their border... It didn't end Well for my begining Imperium...
I wonder if there's a mod that turn one of the Fallen Empire into the "British Fallen Empire"
thatd explain why in a lot of sci fi they all speak english
@@shrekeyes2410 and shared a passion for tea and biscuits.
Spiffing before he realized the full potential of Yorkshire Gold
A relic of the past where Spiff mentioned exploits without laughing maniacally as he trashes the game
This one fallen empire had taken a particular liking to me, but hadn't awoken, so I basically just sat there giving them money to try to get them to not kill me when they awoke.
One of my allies declared war on a xenophobic empire and dragged me and my alliance into that and I was like "why do you even exist", needless to say I died.
Could You make federation guide
That trade negotiation screen for 2.0 release date - priceless
A guide explaining the basics of going wide or tall, that would have helped me when I was starting and had the mechanics down.
what was the HOI4 bit there at the end about?
Saqwana I dunno, but that green blob looks nice.
I love Stellaris, thanks for fleshing out the background of fallen empires. That was illuminating. I think perhaps it would be neat to add some mechanic for late game to risk having YOUR empire regress. Like you say those empires missed the mark, perhaps you could have quests/missions or face having your empire regress. End game is a bit dull.
I'm playing my first game with no AI.
I thought i was safe.
Then i found the pirates.
Now I've found a fallen empire.
I thought i was safe...
Voice was to loud and too quite same with the music plz fix
Well we already know what the Fallen Machine Empire is for: It's a safe haven for organics to flee to when the Contingency awakens.... But if the contingency isn't the end game Crisis then it might actually be around for another unknown purpose. But as far as i know, the Fallen Machine Empire awakens and fights against the Contingency if that's the End Game Crisis.
Or I might just be remembering incorrectly XD
Brit....the spiritualists do/did have contact with the shroud since in heavens gate ( the back hole in their space ) there's a shrouded planet called apostasy.
so sad these videos don't do that well, hope you start doing them again with your new high quality
That outro though. Excellent video 'ol chap!
I know it’s just a theory but I believe for the Spiritual empire. If you ever search their home world they have some planets like. “The Cradle, The Mother,” etc. But there is also a destroy planet called. “The Mistake.” This to me means that maybe they “cleansed” this planet and thus the Species feels great remorse for this and stop ascending the religious path because of this. Or maybe the created a tech or such to destroy this planet by accident and thus feel the same way.
Awesome as always and it was perfect.
Or Spritualists made a faustian bargian with the one of the Shorud entities and eventually got screwed over. They are dealing with downsides of the Shroud covenant
It's weird to think that there was a time before spiffing brit was the "cheesy exploit funny British accent man"
Playing a machine race, with the fallen machine empire in contact at the time of the contingency uprising, I had some interesting dialog from the empire about my firewalls. Of course, the fallen empire offered me an upgrade to my code which resulted in a crash and diminished my population for years (although I did get a buff from it in another campaign). What I found strange was that after beating the 4 machine world's, the 5th and final machine world was literally inside of the machine fallen empires borders... Coincidence? Or perhaps one big galactic test of worthiness? After the crisis was defeated the fallen empire simply left, a bit of dialog ensued, but all of their territory was abandoned.
I would like to see an updated version of this video that takes into account the changes that have undergone fallen empires in the last year,
Oh yay, I've been waiting for another one of these.
So when you are beating a fallen empire, and you just beat the scourge, and it still awakens to fight the scourge, what do you do?
i discovered one of the fallen ai empires , if nice to them they eventually help to upgrade your robots and if playing as AI yourself can eventually merge creating a permit sort of peace treaty and they be classed as drones and it like having auto conquer and get to build them
One time it took so long for one of the fallen empires to awake in my game, that by the time they did their technology and fleet power was considered inferior to the rest of the galaxy.
My friend and I are doing a game that had two fallen empires, a spiritualist and a materialist. The spiritualist fallen empire ended up becoming an Awakened Empire, and completely destroyed the fallen empire. They also made the only two nations not involved with the federation dominions of them.
Here we go, Excited for this!
Gotta say on one of my first stellaris playthrough’s the xenophile fallen empire came to save me from the unbidden, it was quite a nice experience.
Just happened in my game im going through right now, thefallen machine empire will upload a code to your citizens if you are also a machine empire and it increases upkeep cost for a time then it will increase mineral production after that subsides.
They are materialists so basically just super space America
-The Spiffling Brit, 2018
It's a fairly established trope in space opera. Many sci-fi universes that I love have some forms of these.
I'm sure someone else stated this BUT the materialist FE no longer have ring worlds, only the Machine FE has a ring world. Other than that awesome vid. Keep doing the good work and feel better!
Yes tutorials please, mostly on how to make strong fleets.
That Hearts of Iron IV music video at the end was brilliant
Spiffs stellaris videos are just great
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In the new Distant Stars DLC I've had an AI fallen empire contact my AI hive mind to offer to upgrade my programming. I'm sure it could go horribly wrong but for me I got a bonus of like 10% increase to my research stacking with my trait bonus of intelligent
just a question, TSB - have you or will you do a Yuht precursor video in the style of the first league, vultaum, etc?
He has done all of them.
I don't see any videos on the Yuht?
Well I'm dead I started this game and I'm surrounded by 3 Fallen Empire in a circle I have no where to go please help
Well you're fucked.
Time to delete the save file and start over
The real Reason the materials are technologically stagnant is that they are terrified of awakening the contingency.
Spiffing brit is amazing!
Materialism in Stellaris is a philosophy not a lifestyle. It's to accept only the material world as real and to discard all else (ideals) as false. It's not at all a quest for wealth.
from very beginning Materialism isn't about Wealth or Meterial but philosophy but thanks to Church's Propaganda most people regard Materialist as Selfish and Greedy Cunt who only care about him/herself.
I remember I defeated the prethoryn scourge before the 2nd wave could arrive after that I was pretty ballsy and was mobilizing to make war on a nearby fallen empire at the time I could have taken them out but then a event showed up saying that the fallen empire awakened to combat the scourge I took out and when before they had like 300,000 fleet power then doubled to 600,000 I was so angry I took out my aggression on nearby empires
There's a mod that allows you to play as a fallen empire. However in the mod, you succeeded and ascended to a higher plane of existence. These are the eternal realms. The mod makes you so op though that you can go to 30 million fleet power in the first hundred in game years
Stellaris has tyranids, eldar, old ones and necrons
Its the only universe that can stand a chance against wh40k
It's weird to hear you sound not deranged 🤣
a guide (or two) about wide vs tall would be great
You must likely have a pretty good sound system. I've noticed that people just using their cell phones normally sound at least okay and the people that have that muddy talking into a bucket sound normally have a pretty good system. They still sound worse for some reason.
I wished that Spiff would do new Stellaris videos even without exploiting the game (if that's possible)! I bet this would be fun
I have one I like I was next to a devouring horde it looked like I was doomed to get crushed. But lucky for me they pissed of a fallen empire after they lost a war I came in and finished them off.
Fallen Xenophilic Empire: Your speicies is small and will not last long, let us protect you in our endangered species program.
My Empire: 300 pop, 15K Fleet, 25 Worlds. "Ummm okay..."
The real reason for Fallen Empires is the developers thought the game should be played in a certain manner and certain way and these were there to force players to stay within the boundries of the planned development. But they were so unpopular and hated that the first patch added a feature to disable Fallen empires in a game set-up.
my fav stellaris exploit is to back a few fallen empires into dead ends and then do something to upset them and get a free 100 influence every time i humiliate them.
Isn't there a list of nice tech and things they drop when you blow them up? I heard a rumor if you destroy them you get special tech.
Brian McComas if you reverse engineer their debris yes.
I had two fallen Xenophobe empires start a war in heaven but since they were on opposite sides of the galaxy they couldn't fight eachother. And then a crisis event happened and of course it started in a system with a planet so it's destroyed but still there. On the Up side basically every fleet is there apart from xenophobes. Because of the crisis I actually managed to build up a single fleet that broke the xenophobes next to me by engaging their two fleets that together were stronger than mine but apart could be destroyed. After i conquered them I moved on to breaking both fallen empires with a new superfleet.
"Hey chaps, bug me sideways wiv a teabag. We are back."
That's gotta be the most british intro I've ever heard.
I didn't know this side of Lore series Spiff. Honestly I thought in this video I was waiting to heard you talk about exploiting this game or talk about how good tea is! xD
It looks like that my science ship has stumbled upon this old prehistoric relic of an entity that we named "Spiffing Menace", hence i ordered my science ship to research this anomaly
Materialism in stellaris referes not to wealth but to philosophical materialism AE there is no supernatural force. IT is super atheism und science based thinking...
The fact that you said it is alright to leave a dislike makes me like it.
oh how i missed stellaris lore
Make them loud, I know were my sound controls are. However I can only turn it up so much.
I was playing a game for over 48 hours... all 5 fallen empires decided to declare war on me at the same time... no reason given. I guess I was *disrespectful* in that I completely ignored their existence, save for avoiding their triggers... There goes that save.
thx this really helped to explain things
It's a pity we can't create our own super systems when we get sufficiently advanced. I mean, I've basically cleared through the entire tech tree, what do you mean I can't convert the moon around my home world into a Gaia world?
How to befriend everyone as the blorg. Step one, be militaristic. Step 2: Invade your closest neighbors personal space and hug them until they submit to friendship. Step 3: see step 2.step four:repeats steps 2 and 3 until you find brain slugs. Step 5. Become the Goa’uld system lords, and break up the galaxy into proper warring nations.
A 500k fleet power would do fine. As long as they are exhausted from all the wars they waged with other empires.