Ba ndeko na nga ya solola bien, especially Chris the host, bo zwaka temps ya ko definir ba mots pona ko recadrer debat because the way congolese use the qualification “moins serieux” or “serieux te” is really not the proper way the qualification should be used... today’s debate was all over the place mainly because of that. Fr Dede please, bongisa elobeli na yo, respect e zala both ways pardon. Keep ba ideas na yo po o za na point of vue na yo on things mais loba yango na respect ya baninga. Merci bo continuer na musala ya bien.
I agree with Frankos. If your relationships are failing with the same reasons, then you need to stand your ground and look into your own mistakes. And maybe questioning your emotional intelligence, discernment and family repeated cycles.
Thank you so much guys for having me 🙏🏾🥰 Merci bcp na ba ndeko nionso oyo ba participé ! Mais c comme si Ba ndeko mibali ba yebi makambu ya basi ebele ko leka kutu makambu na bango mibali. Voila pourquoi bango tout ba lingi kaka ko loba sur basi 😂 mais ba bosasani que po Muasi a bota il faut mobali 💁🏽♀️ ! Merci Ba ndeko 🥰🙏🏾
Premiere Dame Look You are the only reason I couldn't wait for this saeson to start, surtout cette épisode!! I was so happy when I saw you in the trailer💕
Si la femme ou l'homme est sérieux (se) et que cette situation se répète une deux trois fois ndeko luka nzambe ba liens ya famille il faut la délivrance et une vie de prière
Lorsqu’une situation se répète plusieurs fois que cela soit pour un homme ou une femme... La vraie question est: Comment se fait-il que je n’attire que des mauvaises personnes? Et comment faire pour que cela s’arrête? Car on attire ce qu’on est... donc il faut mettre un stop sur les relations et prendre le temps d’être seul(e) pour se retrouver avec sois même, travailler sa personne les choses qui ne vont pas au dedans de nous pour devenir une nouvelle personne et dégager une autre odeur et à partir de là on peut se permettre de faire rentrer une personne dans sa vie mais pas avant... Il faut prendre le temps avec sois même.
I definitely agree with Frankos this episode, some of the arguments didn't make sense at all. If you're going to call a man unserious for having 3 baby mothers then you should keep the same energy when women have 3 baby fathers. Life can happen to both men and women so you shouldn't allow one and not the other. Women are always screening equality but you want to pick and choose when it applies. Please make it make sense !!!
Fr Dede litterally just talks to talk like he never really lands well with his points and they’re never clear in my opinion and the way he talks about women is so disgusting like who hurt him? He talks about us as if we’re some sort of peasants. His thoughts are so deep rooted in misogyny and this is why sometimes I’m a bit reluctant to wanting to eventually marry a Congolese man because this way of thinking is very common amongst them. Anyway I feel as though when the questions are being asked do not focus them so much on gender. Just generalise them a bit more. Other then that I did enjoy this weeks solola bien, always on time, great quality honestly wumela bino nioso. Bravo vraiment j’aime trop que y’a un plateforme pour nous 🇨🇩🇨🇩 God bless you guys.
Dymund you truly are a gem 💎, soo much wisdom and humility. Please continue to be you. You’re a blessing to your husband and your children....I am sure your Mother is proud when she watches you, you truly are femme sage. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ from one women to another. 🙏🏾🥰
One thing I didn’t like about this episode is the lack of allowing different perspectives on this topic and the lack of emotional intelligence. As soon as you feel triggered , you interrupt and asking why million times. What about agreeing to disagree....
I feel like the conversation went left tonight. Well, Sometimes people are moins sérieux but other times, life happens, let's not juge immediately without knowing. GLADYS was 10000 % right, chaque fois que tu couches avec kkun, tu prends le risque de contracter une grossesse (MAN OR WOMAN). Only birth control which is 100 % effective is abstinence. Think before you act. 🙃 For my fellow believers, let's walk under God's will and do things accordingly. Ça nous évitera bien des problèmes. P.s. Trésor don't miss anymore 😂
Fr Dede's opinions comes across as though he thinks women are second class citizens. if that's the case, who in their right mind would want to tolerate that ideology from the man who's supposed to love, honour and protect you? this is another reason for the breakdown of some relationships, batu oyo baza na makanisi lokola fr Dede eza vraiment pasi pona supporter na mwasi oyo amiyebi que aza na valeur. to sunga communiter stp, women need to learn to respect men and likewise, men need to hold women at a high regard, intellectually, spiritually, etc, toza ba tombola te. and yes, definitely agreed that reflection and accountability must be taken as a person walking through life, that's a great way to end this topic.
Franchement, c'est l'échange le plus nul depuis la création de l'émission. Le seul qui a été mature c'est FRANKOS ! Les autres ont parlé par sentiment : les filles défendaient les femmes et Dede défendait les hommes. Personne n'a pris de recul et les analyses n'ont pas été basées sur l'égalité.
This Dede guy needs to firstly heal, whoever hurt him did a good job but he needs to heal. Secondly he needs to learn to speak to people and learn to address women especially in a polite manner cause me I don’t respect a man who addresses people especially women the way he does.
@@joeb7619 yes, whatever Congolese man gave her that terrible impression of all Congolese men hurt her and she needs to heal. But in the context of this video she handled herself well. Especially when addressing Dede’s weird ideology of trapping men with pregnancy.
Shut it!!!! Since when you've got a diploma in psychology. By your picture I can say you need healing too. I got my psychology diploma on line like yours.
As a Christian, you should only have 1 woman as a mother of your children and also 1 man as the father of your children, unless your spouse passed away. In that case, you can have another man and still have children with him.
If you are not happy and you can't take it any longer, you may leave him and go on with your life. But that doesn't mean that you should now be with someone else while the father of your children is still alive!
Frere Dede has come again by calling women criminals and that we trap men to have babies. I think both party have to atknowledge the role they play in the relationship and accept their responsibilities as parents. 💚💚💚
As a lady y’all know yourself very much but still go for one night stand and you fall pregnant? Who’s not serious? There is morning after pill but y’all playing us 🤣😂🤦🏾♂️ woman in Europe are something else
Je ne suis pas d'accord avec le fait de dire qu'une femme ou un homme qui as des enfants avec plusieurs hommes/femmes et pas sérieux. Cela et trop réducteur car il ya des circonstances que chacun trouve dans les relations qui sont différentes et qu'ils peuvent changer avec le temps. Personne ne connaît son lendemain.
Vraiment Frankos alobi trés bien, baninga pe basuki koloba eloko yo olobaki deja mais balingki ko pesa yo raison te. Oui to ndimi life happens mais il faut komikanisa kaka
In Basic Mathematic we have something Called "CONSTANT" A constant in math is a value that doesn't change. Instead, it's a fixed value. In most situation in our lives we are the constant. In the scenario where you’ve failed three times in the row, please do yourself a favour by telling yourself the truth. A lie from an enemy can be proven wrong but a lie from yourself to yourself is deadly. Tell yourself the truth perhaps you are the problem. Arrogance and pride is destroying many of us. It’s in the nature of human beings to take a defensive stand when facing problems. Accepting that you are the problem doesn’t make you weak. It rather make you strong because many people are not strong enough to accept that they are the problem. Proverbs 16:18 Pride precedes a disaster, and an arrogant attitude precedes a fall. Be Wise
La définition de femme sérieuse ( chez les africains) ne pas la même chez les autres.... Il faut d’abord commencer par définir c’est quoi une femme Sérieuse
@Ruth Kikala donc, selon toi, soki lelo obali pe oboti bana mibale to misato, mobali awangani bino, to akufi to bo boyani pour quelques raisons qui soit, okoki lisusu ko refaire vie nayo te? Tu te remarieras plus parce que tu seras considérée comme moins sérieuse? Ça n'a pas de sens - donc, en tant que femme faut se priver d'un eventuel bonheur seulement parce que la société nous percevra comme moins sérieuse? Mais les hommes peuvent avoir des enfants multiples à gauche à droite et nous acceptons cela? Lui peut refaire sa vie à plusieurs fois et ça pose pas problème...je suis confuse là🤔
@Ruth Kikala tant mieux pour toi si t'était vierge à ton mariage, c'est hors sujet! À nouveau ya une différence de traitement entre les femmes (mariées, non mariées, avec ou sans enfants) et c'est ça qui est nul, selon moi. Donc, cme j'ai pas envie d'écrire un roman cme toi, soyons d'accord que nos avis divergent. ✌🏾
En plus ya Tresor apesi example ya Adam na Eve, let's pause right there and evaluate within context, because this is a good illustration of where things go wrong many times in our community... When Adam blamed Eve, God didn't start addressing her, He went immediately to Adam because Eve was not even present when Adam was given the instruction, it was his *responsibility* to ensure nobody ate from the tree... The man's failure to take responsibility over the guidance he was given is what humanity is experiencing over and over again in communities where the man particularly, or the woman *ISN'T INSTRUCTED*. It's been mentioned on the show a few times already, but where both man and woman receives the right preparation for marriage (their witness growing up will teach them more than your words as a parent), it would be very difficult for these situations to occur in the first place (besides death of course). So let's normalise the idea of "train a child the way he should go, so when he is old he will not depart from it"- to bongisa base, foundation ya pre-marriage/relationship preparations for especially men, so both parties grow in competence ideally before entering a relationship.
Hello Guys. I’m so happy to see my fellow Congolese having this initiative for this show. I know we are talking about the issues in our community and it all around the world. But for today show I’m little bit disappointed. What we want to see is this show to teach us how to find solutions and move on. But today it was kind of blaming and blaming women vs men. Where is the solution on that then??? I felt like some hate was involved. Nobody want to understand. I hope the next one we will get some love . Thank you so much Much love from USA
Je pense que dans la communauté les hommes pensent que "Tous qu'ils disent" est vérité et que c'est la loi de la vie. Ils aiment mettre leur lois partout sans vraiment tenir compte de toutes les circonstances. Au lieu de s'inspirer du passer et de chercher à comprendre les femmes d'aujourd'hui (de leur génération), ils imposent les mêmes comportements dans lesquelles les mamans ont souffert et c'est ca qu'on refuse. C'est normal de refuser de souffrir
Both parties are responsable when it comes to pregnancy. At the end of the day, a child comes from men so men should take xtra care. I know as humans we judge etc and yeah when u meet one person be it man or women we tend to judge and say whatever at first but once you find out the truth the story or how u view someone can indeed change. So I disagree about woman being unserious
Les hommes ont parfaitement raisons : c’est comme la voiture neuve qui passe par différents propriétaires perd de sa valeur. La vérité est juste amère, n’en déplaise à certain.
Après je pense qu'il y a un élément qui n'a pas été pris en compte : beaucoup de couples ne font pas d'enfants pour le futur de ceux-ci mais parce que "ba futaka bana", en plus de ceux ba botama pona mukanda, on a pas assez pris en compte ba réalités y a poto !!
These lot are talking like there’s a lot of marriage in this community! The older lot are glorified baby Mums, ba Manama that have never been married, never worn a bridal gown of any sort. The younger lot doing living together with their baby dads with a 10 year engagement. How very LOOL!
Good men bazalaka and same goes for women but we just don’t want to wait on God, be patient and work on ourselves too. Also, have friends that help you grow and talk to you #Realest#RelationshipGoals
This Dede guy makes me so angry. With that big forehand. He so misogynistic it makes me sick. The women spoke so well. Dymond’s class and the way she carries herself is out of this world 🥺🙌🏾👏🏾
Il faut être sincère avec soi-même, nous sommes en Europe et donc plusieurs mesures ont été établies afin d’éviter ce genre de situation c’est à dire de tomber enceinte à maintes reprises. Donc si un couple prend le risque de le faire sans se protéger, il faut qu’ils assument les conséquences sur le long terme. Donc si un homme ou une femme a plusieurs enfants de pères ou mères différents (je vous parle des cas où les mères ou pères des enfants sont encore vivants) ne sont pas sérieux car ils n’ont pas été responsables car ils ne sont pas protégés. Je vous parle vraiment dans le cas où ils ont genre 3 ou 4 enfants de personnes différentes parce qu’il est vrai que certaines personnes ont perdu leurs conjoints donc , je pense que ce genre de personne ne devrait même être inclus dans ce débat.
My girl Gladis didn't get much time to speak unfortunately. But I am glad she made sure to teach Divisive Dede about accountability in terms of getting pregnant etc.
She’s right it is easier for mermen to walk away from their family while women is hard because women are the ones who have the child and have a connection to the child instantly so it’s harder for them to leave while men will go hopping from one woman to the next
Frankos there’s NO woman in this world who would intentionally go out of her way to have multiple baby fathers. It’s unfortunate circumstances that cause this to happen so please bare this in mind before you pass judgment.
Ok let's be honest ladies. On this one there is clearly a double standard. Men and women should be both considered less serious if you think this behaviour is not serious. If you consider a man aventurier for having different baby mamas is because you see a certain patern in his actions that screams "warning" in your head. Why is it different with a woman? I think some women have a pattern of falling in love or being attracted by these types and being so affraid of ending alone that they allowed those "aventuriers" to play their games. Like Frankos said your choice your consequences. Everybody on the same boat for me.
Love the sis Gladis's point. If you have sex you know the risk, on the other hand I agree with franko, if its taking you 3 kids to self-reflect that's a problem, but I also agree with the other woman. We should not judge, but merely understand and move forward.
I wouldn’t say a woman is less serious if she does have children from multiple partners but it should be prevented. It’s been instilled in me, personally that it is not a thing to do so I know how to move. It depends on your education too in a sense and also knowing your WORTH.
Can I just say. Some of us as woman continuously go back to the same men who were exactly like our past and expect the new people we date to be different. We so quick to jump into relationships when sometimes we should’ve just waited and trusted God to bring us closer to a man who holds those great values we look for and need. Like I’m sorry but there is 7 Billion people in the world and half or how ever many of these people are men (sadly to our benefit some are gay or trans). Despite us being divided by countries I still believe that if a woman waits on God and trusts in his timing and stops chasing for men who she thinks is supposedly the “one” then maybe half of us wouldn’t be saying “there’s not enough good men in the world.” And sometimes the Men who we want now aren’t good men because they just haven’t matured or grown up enough yet to finally realise how serious they wanna be with their lives. It’s not up to us as women to change them, but I would say simply it means that, that particular man isn’t the type of man you as a woman needs as of now, that doesn’t mean they’re trash, it just means they haven’t matured, save yourself be patient until you find the one.
Exactly my point! Good men are still there same for good women. We just don’t want to wait on God and tend to go to our preferences instead of God chosen or because of the « age ». I love this show but it lacks that deep rooted « christianity » if we all are of course.
Je vous félicite l’équipe SOLOLA BIEN, une émission constructive, j’aime beaucoup le concept, des intervenants pertinents. Rien avoir avec les émissions des chroniqueurs (bêtises, insultes, nudité etc). En attente de d’autres vidéos. Nous avons besoin de ce genre d’émission dans la communauté congolaise. Bravo👏🏼✌🏼👌🏼🇨🇩
I think people shouldn’t perceive your choices by the amount children you have, but by their standards. You having a child in an unsuccessful relationship can either make you stride for a better partner, or lower your standards and get into an even worse situation , because you don’t feel worthy enough to be in a stable relationship. Both sexes judge when it’s about extended family as it’s a life changing decision, Let’s just pray 🙏🏾
Muasi to mobali,nous avons tous des responsabilités à faire des bons choix et de les assumer.Soyons courageux et honnête à faire face aux difficultés et à chercher à résoudre nos problèmes personnels au lieu de fuir ou de mettre la faute sur l’autre.Soyons sérieux! 🙏🏽 Good job guys!👌🏽 Bosololi bien!👍🏽
2 papa a la limite mais la une fille qui en fait avec plus de 3 la ca ne va pas quand mm, pona nini kobota en dehors du marriage d abord? Il faut apprendre a se proteger, ata o se remarier, zela ata 2 ou 3 ans avant obota quand mm.
What if those 3 partners died ? i think being serious after having kids with 3 different partners all depends on the situation that occurd cuz you cant blame someone who has 3 different kids from 3 different parteners when maybe all those partners died one after the other ..
Qu'est ce que Dede raconte? A kin, je preparais pas(bien qu'on m'apprenais) j'avais des domestiques. c'est ici que j'ai commence a preparer. Ca depends d'un milieu a un autre. un garcon qui a grandu dans une famille ou il y avait des cuisiniers,ne pense pas que c'est le travail de la femme de preparer pcq il n'a pas vu sa mere le faire et surtout pcq son pere ne lui pas di que c'etait un critere important dans le choix de sa femme. Nous sommes tous congolais mais nous n'avons pas tous la mm education.
Hate to say this but I’m with Frankos. It’s politically correct to say everything is circumstantial but everyone and they mamas would be judging, incl. the women on the panel...
@@gaelledejesus8916 The Bible is a very spiritual book if I do say so myself. There’s many translation to this but the truth is. It’s not about who was disobedient first. God gave ADAM the power not EVE. EVE also didn’t force Adam. If Adam would have acted on the power God gave him he would have told Eve “ NO “ he would have waited for God and told God what Eve had done. That way the story would have had a different ending. There’s more to this but as for now that’s all I can say. All in one it was still always Adams fault
Bsr, première boyikaka mutu moko aloba na tour na ye pour intervenir pona biso pe tolanda malamu, deja pona biso basi soki oboti bana misatu na ba papa misatu c mal vu mais après ba circonstance ya vie pe ezalaka mais elobi tse que forcément mwasi aza moins sérieuse ndenge ndeko moko alobi awa soki une fois osali erreur wana ekomi , deuxième fois et troisième fois wana ekomi makambu mususu ba ndeko Nga naza na 30 ans mais naza na mwana moko.pcke eza choix nasala pour éviter bibota pcke mutu moko alingaka azua mwasi ya moins sérieuse ou mobali ya moins sérieux.apreq chacun fait bon comme lui semble donc voilà . Si non merci pona émission j espère qu un jour j aurai l opportunité d y participer 🙏
Pardon mais faut pas mentir comme ça Trésor a osé dire que les hommes ne veulent jamais le divorce ils partent mais ils reviennent...Faut pas mentir déjà beaucoup d’hommes ABANDONNE la femme et l’enfant et ne reviens jamais et puis on ne va pas se forcer à rester dans un mariage ou rien ne va...
Le sujet est bon malheureusement les hommes défend leur camp les femmes aussi pareille ça serait préférable de mettre les gens qui pourraient être neûtre bo bebisi émission likolo ya ba partie pris la communauté congolaise ont beaucoup à apprendre pour bien avancé
I really love the show but as for me i would Say that mobali où mwasi mutu ata moko te he Always wished ko kutuna na ba mauvais circonstances donc ebele eza ba circonstance ya vie de parts est autres... Life is full of Surprises... Thanks so much guysssssss
Choix te na nini choix te ya ko zala oblige ya ko panzela mohali nioso2 oko bima naye makolo? Esque bo talaka pe bana que mibali bozo change wana ekoki kozala risque pona bana na bino? Ba mama zoba vraiment
@@rklove9355 euhhhh pourquoi donner votre avis avec tellement de vulgarité et méchanceté ? Moi sava ma vie elle est top et je gère tb même ! Quand je dis choix eza te c'est lorsque mariage ezalaki raté moina ya moninga akufa Kaka pamba ? Boni KO ! Et puis tozali koboya bato ya ( mpianka, impolitesse, méchanceté, bouzoberie) dur ce bonne journée !
@@francoisedeppe9668 alor boyekolaka pe ko kangaka makolo ba choix ya mabe bozo sala bozo bota bana na mokili na ba tata different et susi na bino eza kaka ya ko kufa yomoko yango bazo salaka bana na bino mabe ba mama moko bowelelaka ko kotisa mibali na vie ya bana na bino nioso pona posa nzoto mais bozo protege bana na bino te , un femme oyo ami respectaka abotaka bana tata different te , eloko tozo boya nde batu oyo bazo bota bana na makidi ya mibali different et azo zala kutu na susi te que bana ba kola na tata na bango
@@rklove9355 pardon papa nous ne sommes pas du même millieu social je suis désolé ! Les gens que je côtoie n'en nullement un langage primaire comme le votre ! Et vos choix de femmes lège re ne sont pas ngai ! C'est quoi ça ? On ne se connait pas mais vous venez parlé ainsi à une dame qui défend autres femmes ! Ozali vreuman mon kankema ya zamba ya fin fond ha boende to pe wapi ?
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Les sous-titres sont disponibles, merci d’activer les sous-titres français.
To zalieeeeeeeeee☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️
Gladis lingala stp ezalaka bien😂
Where’s maya. She is very smart
Ba ndeko na nga ya solola bien, especially Chris the host, bo zwaka temps ya ko definir ba mots pona ko recadrer debat because the way congolese use the qualification “moins serieux” or “serieux te” is really not the proper way the qualification should be used... today’s debate was all over the place mainly because of that.
Fr Dede please, bongisa elobeli na yo, respect e zala both ways pardon. Keep ba ideas na yo po o za na point of vue na yo on things mais loba yango na respect ya baninga.
Merci bo continuer na musala ya bien.
Merci papa
Frère Dede avant même qu’il parle on a peur de ce qu’il va dire 😂
Aza sans filtre 😂😂😂
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😂🤣😂🤣👀
Non mais laisse😹😹
I agree with Frankos. If your relationships are failing with the same reasons, then you need to stand your ground and look into your own mistakes. And maybe questioning your emotional intelligence, discernment and family repeated cycles.
Thank you so much guys for having me 🙏🏾🥰
Merci bcp na ba ndeko nionso oyo ba participé ! Mais c comme si Ba ndeko mibali ba yebi makambu ya basi ebele ko leka kutu makambu na bango mibali. Voila pourquoi bango tout ba lingi kaka ko loba sur basi 😂 mais ba bosasani que po Muasi a bota il faut mobali 💁🏽♀️ ! Merci Ba ndeko 🥰🙏🏾
Nzambe il a fallu apesa bango pe charge yako mema muana na libumu. Ils pensent que c'est du tic au tac
Mbote ma soeur ! . mibali ya sérieux bazamingi te... sur quelle base statistique ozo ko confirmer hypothèse na yo?
Premiere Dame Look You are the only reason I couldn't wait for this saeson to start, surtout cette épisode!! I was so happy when I saw you in the trailer💕
👀🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤣😂🤣
Ya Adrienne
Who else is here to watch our classy music dymund , love her she’s actually beautiful and realistic she makes sense mama lakisa bango ki mwasi
Pardon ! Ne faites plus de vidéos sans Tresor. Personnalité na ye eza very important na émission
Very very
Vraiment 😅😅
Ah oui
Vraiment vous avez raison
Vraiment azo bongisa show !!!
Si la femme ou l'homme est sérieux (se) et que cette situation se répète une deux trois fois ndeko luka nzambe ba liens ya famille il faut la délivrance et une vie de prière
Effectivement, il fallait ba tala pe côté oyo ya ba lien familial ou relationnel (ancien partenaire ou ami). Yango vie oyo sans Jésus Christ eza pasi
C’est vrai, les liens de famille existent!
Voila, la 1ère food C’est une erreur mais la 2e fois eza erreur te c’est un choix.
Amen 🙏🏾 vraiment
Humm bino kutu kaka ba liens n'importe quoi
Now people can appreciate Tresor because Dede has just now upped the levels 😂🤣😂🤣
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😂😂😂 I know right
Straight up facts !
Yeah i was like i prefer Tresor 🤣🤣🤣
Papa Tresor, we missed you a lot today. Only know what you got when it's not there, cause papa Dede mutu pasi
Giirrrlll 🤣🤣😂😂
I haven't even finished wacthing the show and I miss him already 🥺 Trésor faut azalaka kk
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Lorsqu’une situation se répète plusieurs fois que cela soit pour un homme ou une femme...
La vraie question est: Comment se fait-il que je n’attire que des mauvaises personnes?
Et comment faire pour que cela s’arrête?
Car on attire ce qu’on est... donc il faut mettre un stop sur les relations et prendre le temps d’être seul(e) pour se retrouver avec sois même, travailler sa personne les choses qui ne vont pas au dedans de nous pour devenir une nouvelle personne et dégager une autre odeur et à partir de là on peut se permettre de faire rentrer une personne dans sa vie mais pas avant...
Il faut prendre le temps avec sois même.
Frère Dede tu nous embrouilles, Ba réflexion ezanga sens😂😂😂
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Makasi 🤣🤣
I definitely agree with Frankos this episode, some of the arguments didn't make sense at all. If you're going to call a man unserious for having 3 baby mothers then you should keep the same energy when women have 3 baby fathers. Life can happen to both men and women so you shouldn't allow one and not the other. Women are always screening equality but you want to pick and choose when it applies. Please make it make sense !!!
LOUDEEEEEER 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣
You're right (I am a woman )but I didn't agree with them
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My understanding is that men easily find a reason to leave whereas women suffer the consequences.
EXACTLYYY!!!!!
I’m not Congolese but I enjoy watching these 🥳
You may probably married a Congolese dude who knows ooh
same sis , they’re so informative and educative !!
Must be nice!!!!
Same lol!
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Fr Dede litterally just talks to talk like he never really lands well with his points and they’re never clear in my opinion and the way he talks about women is so disgusting like who hurt him? He talks about us as if we’re some sort of peasants. His thoughts are so deep rooted in misogyny and this is why sometimes I’m a bit reluctant to wanting to eventually marry a Congolese man because this way of thinking is very common amongst them. Anyway I feel as though when the questions are being asked do not focus them so much on gender. Just generalise them a bit more. Other then that I did enjoy this weeks solola bien, always on time, great quality honestly wumela bino nioso. Bravo vraiment j’aime trop que y’a un plateforme pour nous 🇨🇩🇨🇩 God bless you guys.
I agree with you Glossysharone. I don't understand who hurt frère Dede, I just hope he will work on his healing before ever thinking of marriage.
He already pissed me off. His talking craps
He’s ignorant and that’s unfortunate.
fr, he talks out of his ass fr.
Il faut nde ko teya batu "s'abstenir".mpo nako eviter bi bota bota
Exactement!!
Cause besides pregnancies, there's STDs
Exacte benedicte
Neither of the gender sex should be taken serious, that goes for both the women and the men.
Dymund you truly are a gem 💎, soo much wisdom and humility. Please continue to be you. You’re a blessing to your husband and your children....I am sure your Mother is proud when she watches you, you truly are femme sage. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ from one women to another. 🙏🏾🥰
I never agree with papa tresor but i love to hear him explain his opinion it’s make me laugh 😂 god bless you Trésor image
Tresor is not there...
@@fannylenge and who is talking at 23:49 ????
Me too 😂😂😂
Dede aza vrema matata elaaa 🤣😂😂😂 He is worse than Tresor 🤦🏾♀️😂
He is worst sis🤣🤣
One thing I didn’t like about this episode is the lack of allowing different perspectives on this topic and the lack of emotional intelligence. As soon as you feel triggered , you interrupt and asking why million times. What about agreeing to disagree....
I feel like the conversation went left tonight. Well, Sometimes people are moins sérieux but other times, life happens, let's not juge immediately without knowing. GLADYS was 10000 % right, chaque fois que tu couches avec kkun, tu prends le risque de contracter une grossesse (MAN OR WOMAN). Only birth control which is 100 % effective is abstinence. Think before you act. 🙃
For my fellow believers, let's walk under God's will and do things accordingly. Ça nous évitera bien des problèmes.
P.s. Trésor don't miss anymore 😂
100% agree with you
@@serenadomingos9299 🙏🏾🙏🏾❤️
c’est ça!!! Well said the only safe way to avoid stds and to net get pregnant is literally by not having sex.... c’est aussi facile que sa
@@lehnaxxo5450 Eaxcatement 🙌🏾
I couldn’t agree more!
Ahhh wapi Tresor?? Where is Tresor ?? Dede is killing me Lool eh papa tika ozali ko boma ngayi!!!😂😂😂
TRESOR ALINGAKI ABOMA MASOLO
@@patrickilunga1535 nooo tse... Tresor alobaka makambu ya solo
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Fr Dede's opinions comes across as though he thinks women are second class citizens. if that's the case, who in their right mind would want to tolerate that ideology from the man who's supposed to love, honour and protect you? this is another reason for the breakdown of some relationships, batu oyo baza na makanisi lokola fr Dede eza vraiment pasi pona supporter na mwasi oyo amiyebi que aza na valeur. to sunga communiter stp, women need to learn to respect men and likewise, men need to hold women at a high regard, intellectually, spiritually, etc, toza ba tombola te. and yes, definitely agreed that reflection and accountability must be taken as a person walking through life, that's a great way to end this topic.
Fact
Perioddddd!!!
It's people like Dédé that makes you have 3,4 Children.
@@gloriamuhasa5358 mbadi, for real
Franchement, c'est l'échange le plus nul depuis la création de l'émission. Le seul qui a été mature c'est FRANKOS ! Les autres ont parlé par sentiment : les filles défendaient les femmes et Dede défendait les hommes. Personne n'a pris de recul et les analyses n'ont pas été basées sur l'égalité.
Tu as raison. Mais en meme temps, ezali sensible. Oyebi te soki situation wana ekomela moko ya ba fille na plateau. Yango wana moi reserve ezali.
@@midelbudja6288 Côté wana okoki ko zala na raison. Basi ba zalaki malili
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Exactement 👌👌
This Dede guy needs to firstly heal, whoever hurt him did a good job but he needs to heal. Secondly he needs to learn to speak to people and learn to address women especially in a polite manner cause me I don’t respect a man who addresses people especially women the way he does.
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@@joeb7619 yes, whatever Congolese man gave her that terrible impression of all Congolese men hurt her and she needs to heal. But in the context of this video she handled herself well. Especially when addressing Dede’s weird ideology of trapping men with pregnancy.
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Shut it!!!! Since when you've got a diploma in psychology. By your picture I can say you need healing too. I got my psychology diploma on line like yours.
ndoki
Frère dede alobi tokumisa nzambe tokumisa PE bino?😂😂😂😂
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I like how neutral frankos think ... his got balance ...
I personnally felt that he gave the most valid point💯
As a Christian, you should only have 1 woman as a mother of your children and also 1 man as the father of your children, unless your spouse passed away. In that case, you can have another man and still have children with him.
And as a Christian if things Doesn't go as planned, what do you???
If you are not happy and you can't take it any longer, you may leave him and go on with your life. But that doesn't mean that you should now be with someone else while the father of your children is still alive!
Frere Dede has come again by calling women criminals and that we trap men to have babies. I think both party have to atknowledge the role they play in the relationship and accept their responsibilities as parents. 💚💚💚
As a lady y’all know yourself very much but still go for one night stand and you fall pregnant? Who’s not serious? There is morning after pill but y’all playing us 🤣😂🤦🏾♂️ woman in Europe are something else
He killed me 😆😆👌🏾😂👌🏾he’s the best !
@@Zarkalogy Spot on lol!
Who else noticed that Gladys behaved today 😂😂❤️
True at least she’s not childish. Last time she was too much getho
@@lamignonne4010 I know right 😅I am pretty sure her house is on fire 🔥 because her behaviour ops
Je ne suis pas d'accord avec le fait de dire qu'une femme ou un homme qui as des enfants avec plusieurs hommes/femmes et pas sérieux.
Cela et trop réducteur car il ya des circonstances que chacun trouve dans les relations qui sont différentes et qu'ils peuvent changer avec le temps.
Personne ne connaît son lendemain.
Vraiment ma Sr.
Merci ma chérie les émissions commença c'est trop ridicule je crois pas pas qu'une femme peut vouloir faire des enfants de papa différents
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I love this show. My wife is Congolese and see translates the words I can’t understand. Great show guys.
Vraiment Frankos alobi trés bien, baninga pe basuki koloba eloko yo olobaki deja mais balingki ko pesa yo raison te. Oui to ndimi life happens mais il faut komikanisa kaka
In Basic Mathematic we have something Called "CONSTANT"
A constant in math is a value that doesn't change. Instead, it's a fixed value. In most situation in our lives we are the constant.
In the scenario where you’ve failed three times in the row, please do yourself a favour by telling yourself the truth.
A lie from an enemy can be proven wrong but a lie from yourself to yourself is deadly.
Tell yourself the truth perhaps you are the problem. Arrogance and pride is destroying many of us.
It’s in the nature of human beings to take a defensive stand when facing problems. Accepting that you are the problem doesn’t make you weak. It rather make you strong because many people are not strong enough to accept that they are the problem.
Proverbs 16:18
Pride precedes a disaster, and an arrogant attitude precedes a fall.
Be Wise
La définition de femme sérieuse ( chez les africains) ne pas la même chez les autres....
Il faut d’abord commencer par définir c’est quoi une femme
Sérieuse
Une femme sérieuse c'est une femme qui se respecte..
@Ruth Kikala donc, selon toi, soki lelo obali pe oboti bana mibale to misato, mobali awangani bino, to akufi to bo boyani pour quelques raisons qui soit, okoki lisusu ko refaire vie nayo te? Tu te remarieras plus parce que tu seras considérée comme moins sérieuse? Ça n'a pas de sens - donc, en tant que femme faut se priver d'un eventuel bonheur seulement parce que la société nous percevra comme moins sérieuse? Mais les hommes peuvent avoir des enfants multiples à gauche à droite et nous acceptons cela? Lui peut refaire sa vie à plusieurs fois et ça pose pas problème...je suis confuse là🤔
@Ruth Kikala tant mieux pour toi si t'était vierge à ton mariage, c'est hors sujet! À nouveau ya une différence de traitement entre les femmes (mariées, non mariées, avec ou sans enfants) et c'est ça qui est nul, selon moi. Donc, cme j'ai pas envie d'écrire un roman cme toi, soyons d'accord que nos avis divergent. ✌🏾
@Ruth Kikala le mariage n'est pas un tout dans la vie. 🙄😳
@Ruth Kikala je vois que cela t'as piqué calme toi, chacun est libre de s'exprimer. C'est juste un débat.
Dymund is the smartest out of all of them. No cap
En plus ya Tresor apesi example ya Adam na Eve, let's pause right there and evaluate within context, because this is a good illustration of where things go wrong many times in our community...
When Adam blamed Eve, God didn't start addressing her, He went immediately to Adam because Eve was not even present when Adam was given the instruction, it was his *responsibility* to ensure nobody ate from the tree...
The man's failure to take responsibility over the guidance he was given is what humanity is experiencing over and over again in communities where the man particularly, or the woman *ISN'T INSTRUCTED*.
It's been mentioned on the show a few times already, but where both man and woman receives the right preparation for marriage (their witness growing up will teach them more than your words as a parent), it would be very difficult for these situations to occur in the first place (besides death of course). So let's normalise the idea of "train a child the way he should go, so when he is old he will not depart from it"- to bongisa base, foundation ya pre-marriage/relationship preparations for especially men, so both parties grow in competence ideally before entering a relationship.
@Helena Ninsia YOU SAID IT ALL. Nothing Less Nothing More. Zambe a pambola yo plus plus !!!!
@@allentressy3289 merci yaya 🙏🏾🙏🏾
Yo nde il fallait ozala na panel, yaya.
@@dmj9699 motema yaya, na yebi te soki na lingaki ko zala patient
Clear and accurate explanation of Adam and Eve thankyou👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Hello Guys.
I’m so happy to see my fellow Congolese having this initiative for this show. I know we are talking about the issues in our community and it all around the world. But for today show I’m little bit disappointed. What we want to see is this show to teach us how to find solutions and move on. But today it was kind of blaming and blaming women vs men. Where is the solution on that then??? I felt like some hate was involved. Nobody want to understand.
I hope the next one we will get some love .
Thank you so much
Much love from USA
Je pense que dans la communauté les hommes pensent que "Tous qu'ils disent" est vérité et que c'est la loi de la vie. Ils aiment mettre leur lois partout sans vraiment tenir compte de toutes les circonstances. Au lieu de s'inspirer du passer et de chercher à comprendre les femmes d'aujourd'hui (de leur génération), ils imposent les mêmes comportements dans lesquelles les mamans ont souffert et c'est ca qu'on refuse. C'est normal de refuser de souffrir
Frère Dede a des bombes dans sa bouche. Bo pekisa ye! 😂
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Dieu n'est pas responsable de nos mauvais choix
God is not responsible for our bad choices
Dédé et Gladys ne doivent pas manquer sur le plateau... sometimes it's good to hear them
Ba longoleli biso Tresor, batieli biso dede 😂 from bad to worse.... we didnt ask for this. We need more people like dymond!
Je pense déjà que si la femme a gardé ces trois enfants et arrive à les élever avec les soucis du baby father c’est quelqu’un de sérieux
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Both parties are responsable when it comes to pregnancy. At the end of the day, a child comes from men so men should take xtra care.
I know as humans we judge etc and yeah when u meet one person be it man or women we tend to judge and say whatever at first but once you find out the truth the story or how u view someone can indeed change. So I disagree about woman being unserious
Ya tresor biso ba fun nayo tozolela wapi yo😂
Les hommes ont parfaitement raisons : c’est comme la voiture neuve qui passe par différents propriétaires perd de sa valeur. La vérité est juste amère, n’en déplaise à certain.
Après je pense qu'il y a un élément qui n'a pas été pris en compte : beaucoup de couples ne font pas d'enfants pour le futur de ceux-ci mais parce que "ba futaka bana", en plus de ceux ba botama pona mukanda, on a pas assez pris en compte ba réalités y a poto !!
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These lot are talking like there’s a lot of marriage in this community! The older lot are glorified baby Mums, ba Manama that have never been married, never worn a bridal gown of any sort. The younger lot doing living together with their baby dads with a 10 year engagement. How very LOOL!
Preach!!!!
Good men bazalaka and same goes for women but we just don’t want to wait on God, be patient and work on ourselves too. Also, have friends that help you grow and talk to you #Realest#RelationshipGoals
punchiline. "Bozo tula pona nini ?" je suis morte MDDDDRRRR
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This Dede guy makes me so angry. With that big forehand. He so misogynistic it makes me sick.
The women spoke so well. Dymond’s class and the way she carries herself is out of this world 🥺🙌🏾👏🏾
Mbunzu wana munene koleka airport ya ndjili
@@Kanatshi 😹😹😹
@@deborahkangudja8298 yaya tikka mibali misusu africain ba pesaka poss yako bala batu libanda kaka
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@@Kanatshi eza laka bien te 💔
Il faut être sincère avec soi-même, nous sommes en Europe et donc plusieurs mesures ont été établies afin d’éviter ce genre de situation c’est à dire de tomber enceinte à maintes reprises. Donc si un couple prend le risque de le faire sans se protéger, il faut qu’ils assument les conséquences sur le long terme. Donc si un homme ou une femme a plusieurs enfants de pères ou mères différents (je vous parle des cas où les mères ou pères des enfants sont encore vivants) ne sont pas sérieux car ils n’ont pas été responsables car ils ne sont pas protégés. Je vous parle vraiment dans le cas où ils ont genre 3 ou 4 enfants de personnes différentes parce qu’il est vrai que certaines personnes ont perdu leurs conjoints donc , je pense que ce genre de personne ne devrait même être inclus dans ce débat.
My girl Gladis didn't get much time to speak unfortunately. But I am glad she made sure to teach Divisive Dede about accountability in terms of getting pregnant etc.
Non mais ce frère Dede la a une façon de penser 😳😳😳 AU SECOURS si tout les hommes congolais pensait comme ça on serait vraiment dans la merde !!!!!!
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Adrienne is super right, there's so much time spent on educating girls and not boys
I like Dymund she’s the best ❤️❤️❤️🇨🇩🇨🇩
She’s right it is easier for mermen to walk away from their family while women is hard because women are the ones who have the child and have a connection to the child instantly so it’s harder for them to leave while men will go hopping from one woman to the next
Thanks for the last advise by Dymund the show would have been incomplete without it. Love you all 😘😘
Pardon faites un live où je peux poser mes commentaire. Je pleure tellement j'ai des chose à dire à chaque fois que je regarde cette émission!!!!
Frankos there’s NO woman in this world who would intentionally go out of her way to have multiple baby fathers. It’s unfortunate circumstances that cause this to happen so please bare this in mind before you pass judgment.
Ok let's be honest ladies. On this one there is clearly a double standard. Men and women should be both considered less serious if you think this behaviour is not serious. If you consider a man aventurier for having different baby mamas is because you see a certain patern in his actions that screams "warning" in your head. Why is it different with a woman? I think some women have a pattern of falling in love or being attracted by these types and being so affraid of ending alone that they allowed those "aventuriers" to play their games. Like Frankos said your choice your consequences. Everybody on the same boat for me.
Frère Dede est devenu mon préféré 😂😂😂
Ah oui hein. Azo tia mayi na munoko te
Vraiment 🤣🤣🤣
Ba choix na yo, ba conséquences na yo ! Merci pour ton analyse Frankos 👏🏾
Dede parole: “Tokumisa Nzambe, tokumisa mpe bino?”🤣🤣🤣 il est plus pire que Trésor
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Love the sis Gladis's point. If you have sex you know the risk, on the other hand I agree with franko, if its taking you 3 kids to self-reflect that's a problem, but I also agree with the other woman. We should not judge, but merely understand and move forward.
I wouldn’t say a woman is less serious if she does have children from multiple partners but it should be prevented. It’s been instilled in me, personally that it is not a thing to do so I know how to move. It depends on your education too in a sense and also knowing your WORTH.
I’m started to see that Frère Dede is Tonton Trésor’s apprentice. It is really starting to make sense now.
Agree with Gladys... life happens stop judging people
Can I just say. Some of us as woman continuously go back to the same men who were exactly like our past and expect the new people we date to be different.
We so quick to jump into relationships when sometimes we should’ve just waited and trusted God to bring us closer to a man who holds those great values we look for and need.
Like I’m sorry but there is 7 Billion people in the world and half or how ever many of these people are men (sadly to our benefit some are gay or trans). Despite us being divided by countries I still believe that if a woman waits on God and trusts in his timing and stops chasing for men who she thinks is supposedly the “one” then maybe half of us wouldn’t be saying “there’s not enough good men in the world.”
And sometimes the Men who we want now aren’t good men because they just haven’t matured or grown up enough yet to finally realise how serious they wanna be with their lives. It’s not up to us as women to change them, but I would say simply it means that, that particular man isn’t the type of man you as a woman needs as of now, that doesn’t mean they’re trash, it just means they haven’t matured, save yourself be patient until you find the one.
Exactly my point! Good men are still there same for good women. We just don’t want to wait on God and tend to go to our preferences instead of God chosen or because of the « age ». I love this show but it lacks that deep rooted « christianity » if we all are of course.
The girls looks stunning especially Dymund and Adrienne 😍😍😍😍🍫🍫🍫🍫 classy
Je vous félicite l’équipe SOLOLA BIEN, une émission constructive, j’aime beaucoup le concept, des intervenants pertinents. Rien avoir avec les émissions des chroniqueurs (bêtises, insultes, nudité etc). En attente de d’autres vidéos. Nous avons besoin de ce genre d’émission dans la communauté congolaise. Bravo👏🏼✌🏼👌🏼🇨🇩
Frere dede is very interesting person, some dont like him but some do like him so with gladis moto epela 😂🤣🤣
Adrienne, longonia Maman 😍‼️‼️‼️😍
WAPI TONTON TRÉSOR ??? It's not the same sans ye
I think people shouldn’t perceive your choices by the amount children you have, but by their standards. You having a child in an unsuccessful relationship can either make you stride for a better partner, or lower your standards and get into an even worse situation , because you don’t feel worthy enough to be in a stable relationship. Both sexes judge when it’s about extended family as it’s a life changing decision, Let’s just pray 🙏🏾
Muasi to mobali,nous avons tous des responsabilités à faire des bons choix et de les assumer.Soyons courageux et honnête à faire face aux difficultés et à chercher à résoudre nos problèmes personnels au lieu de fuir ou de mettre la faute sur l’autre.Soyons sérieux! 🙏🏽
Good job guys!👌🏽
Bosololi bien!👍🏽
Frere Dede vreeuumant 😂😂
Merci, Gladys! Tu as bien parlé... Après, papa muluba Tshimpuki, pardon to boyi ! Oyo ba idéologie ya tshibawu
Tala Kaka ye! Grand frère ya comédien manix tshimpuki
Ils dit la vérité c’est tout 😂😂
Ba émissions ya boye il faut ezalaka sur les différents sujets na kati ya couples vraiment bonne initiative 👍
Sujet intéressant la femme ne fait pas d’enfant sans avoir l’idée de construire une famille
Adrienne nalela yo ma star 😍
Pour une fois que suis d'accord avec Frankos et Frère Dédé !
2 papa a la limite mais la une fille qui en fait avec plus de 3 la ca ne va pas quand mm, pona nini kobota en dehors du marriage d abord? Il faut apprendre a se proteger, ata o se remarier, zela ata 2 ou 3 ans avant obota quand mm.
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What if those 3 partners died ? i think being serious after having kids with 3 different partners all depends on the situation that occurd cuz you cant blame someone who has 3 different kids from 3 different parteners when maybe all those partners died one after the other ..
Estha, if those 3 partners died I am not eating your food. this is highly unusual. second you don't need to have children by every man you are with,
Qu'est ce que Dede raconte? A kin, je preparais pas(bien qu'on m'apprenais) j'avais des domestiques. c'est ici que j'ai commence a preparer. Ca depends d'un milieu a un autre. un garcon qui a grandu dans une famille ou il y avait des cuisiniers,ne pense pas que c'est le travail de la femme de preparer pcq il n'a pas vu sa mere le faire et surtout pcq son pere ne lui pas di que c'etait un critere important dans le choix de sa femme. Nous sommes tous congolais mais nous n'avons pas tous la mm education.
Donc il a raison... C'est pas parce que il ya des domestiques que les enfants ne doivent pas faire..... L'éducation de base est très important......
Ruth misamu needs to watch this..
Omg Dédé is like his bro Trésor bashing women🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 girls you were on fire 🔥🔥 and I love it
Hate to say this but I’m with Frankos. It’s politically correct to say everything is circumstantial but everyone and they mamas would be judging, incl. the women on the panel...
Frankos 👏👏👏 la sagesse est une grâce
This was quite disturbing to watch 😫 especially hearing the Bible arguments that are wrong. Epuis papa Tresor bible nini atangaka please
Tresor version
Y’a yemoko 😂😂😂😂😭😭😭
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Mais il pas tord la division entre l'homme et Dieu était venu de la désobéissance.... Et qui avait désobéi en 1er?
@@gaelledejesus8916 The Bible is a very spiritual book if I do say so myself. There’s many translation to this but the truth is. It’s not about who was disobedient first. God gave ADAM the power not EVE. EVE also didn’t force Adam. If Adam would have acted on the power God gave him he would have told Eve “ NO “ he would have waited for God and told God what Eve had done. That way the story would have had a different ending. There’s more to this but as for now that’s all I can say. All in one it was still always Adams fault
Bsr, première boyikaka mutu moko aloba na tour na ye pour intervenir pona biso pe tolanda malamu, deja pona biso basi soki oboti bana misatu na ba papa misatu c mal vu mais après ba circonstance ya vie pe ezalaka mais elobi tse que forcément mwasi aza moins sérieuse ndenge ndeko moko alobi awa soki une fois osali erreur wana ekomi , deuxième fois et troisième fois wana ekomi makambu mususu ba ndeko Nga naza na 30 ans mais naza na mwana moko.pcke eza choix nasala pour éviter bibota pcke mutu moko alingaka azua mwasi ya moins sérieuse ou mobali ya moins sérieux.apreq chacun fait bon comme lui semble donc voilà . Si non merci pona émission j espère qu un jour j aurai l opportunité d y participer 🙏
Can there be subtitles for this show😭😭😭😭 this show is hella interesting 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🇨🇩🇨🇩🇨🇩
“Malembe “ we want to hear all options love the show
Pardon mais faut pas mentir comme ça Trésor a osé dire que les hommes ne veulent jamais le divorce ils partent mais ils reviennent...Faut pas mentir déjà beaucoup d’hommes ABANDONNE la femme et l’enfant et ne reviens jamais et puis on ne va pas se forcer à rester dans un mariage ou rien ne va...
MERCI BEAUCOUP!
Vraiment !!!
Totalement d’accord bien dit
Le sujet est bon malheureusement les hommes défend leur camp les femmes aussi pareille ça serait préférable de mettre les gens qui pourraient être neûtre bo bebisi émission likolo ya ba partie pris la communauté congolaise ont beaucoup à apprendre pour bien avancé
Someone give Dymund an AWARD please!!!!!
I really love the show but as for me i would Say that mobali où mwasi mutu ata moko te he Always wished ko kutuna na ba mauvais circonstances donc ebele eza ba circonstance ya vie de parts est autres... Life is full of Surprises... Thanks so much guysssssss
On ne peut pas jugé les gens car parfois choix ezalaka te ! Pour ma part j'ai eu la chance d'avoir 2 enfants même papa !!
Choix te na nini choix te ya ko zala oblige ya ko panzela mohali nioso2 oko bima naye makolo? Esque bo talaka pe bana que mibali bozo change wana ekoki kozala risque pona bana na bino? Ba mama zoba vraiment
@@rklove9355 euhhhh pourquoi donner votre avis avec tellement de vulgarité et méchanceté ? Moi sava ma vie elle est top et je gère tb même ! Quand je dis choix eza te c'est lorsque mariage ezalaki raté moina ya moninga akufa Kaka pamba ? Boni KO ! Et puis tozali koboya bato ya ( mpianka, impolitesse, méchanceté, bouzoberie) dur ce bonne journée !
@@francoisedeppe9668 alor boyekolaka pe ko kangaka makolo ba choix ya mabe bozo sala bozo bota bana na mokili na ba tata different et susi na bino eza kaka ya ko kufa yomoko yango bazo salaka bana na bino mabe ba mama moko bowelelaka ko kotisa mibali na vie ya bana na bino nioso pona posa nzoto mais bozo protege bana na bino te , un femme oyo ami respectaka abotaka bana tata different te , eloko tozo boya nde batu oyo bazo bota bana na makidi ya mibali different et azo zala kutu na susi te que bana ba kola na tata na bango
@@rklove9355 pardon papa nous ne sommes pas du même millieu social je suis désolé ! Les gens que je côtoie n'en nullement un langage primaire comme le votre ! Et vos choix de femmes lège re ne sont pas ngai ! C'est quoi ça ? On ne se connait pas mais vous venez parlé ainsi à une dame qui défend autres femmes ! Ozali vreuman mon kankema ya zamba ya fin fond ha boende to pe wapi ?
Tresor il est ou 😂😂😂 c’est le meilleur . Gladis ko kata kata batu bazo loba
Vraiment
Ye kaka bongo eh pardon