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I could care less about PvP. Dont get me wrong, I enjoy it, but it is a way of ruining a game because it always ends up being the focus. I heard someone in the comments say, "I wish this game was less story driven," like, really?! The 40k lore is what makes it great. Capt Titus story was literally written into the lore. He is a character in 40k now. I dont ever want a game that is all about online.
I feel like people complaining for some reason thought this game was live service, and it was never advertised as that. It's built like the old gears of war games and that style of content. The game probably sold better than expected, so year 1 is light on content in case the game failed, so they didn't get trapped into huge promises with no players. Im sure the dev team watched all the live service games fail miserably and tried to play it safe cant even blame them. And the skin for sniper isn't even that bad. All the other classes will get salamander armor parts anyway. You now get to build your own heavy and add the new parts.
Yeah but it’s also showing how dumb their forced constraints are. Theres no need to limit cosmetics to being chapter specific over 2 years. That’s ridiculous. Say you want the cosmetics for the space wolves for example, and say that their items are coming at the end of 2026, you’re long done with the game by then. They’ve cut themselves off from so much business, most players have walked away by now. If they had more items for more classes rather than drip drip a random chapter every 4 months and limit it to 2 classes they might actually sell more…. People are begging for stuff to buy and it’s not there. People are going to be long done with this game, a lot are already. They majorly shot themselves in the foot for that.
worst take ever they knew full well how well this would sell horde mode is base game content for first game stop defending them theres no excuse for the failed implementation
@@famalam943 actually there is. Firstly they have to get approval by GW ensuring the IP is within the limits. Secondly again like he said this isn’t a live service game. And thirdly you do realize that season 3 we will be getting two champion packs? One for the sniper salamander and the other another chapter. And fourth you’re actually incorrect. They did the same thing with world war z it came out in 2019 and they’re still putting out dlc and content. You’re just giving entitled live service vibe with Cod, Helldivers and Fortnite. If you’re complaining and impatient of about it then remove yourself from the game and go elsewhere fr.
Seeing how Raven Guard cosmetics were already datamined - I think the second Champion (if there will be a second one) that comes without the cosmetic pack is not going to be RG. Raven Guard Assault will probably come in Season 4 where a new melee weapon is listed on the roadmap, making a perfect fit to introduce the Lightning Claws. At least I hope that is the plan - it would be perfect and makes a lot of sense.
Where are you getting lightning claws from? It's not happening, yall are just speculating. That would require too much, if they haven't already planned it. Claws? Two? That's a whole new pose, animations, and bunch of coding just to get dual melee to work, when GW has been getting rid of claws on most vanilla units. Sure, sounds perfect, but you're asking for too much. 40K fans are sooooooooooooo demanding. Yall need to remember this is about balancing video game development and profits for Sabre, not just giving you everything you want
I’ve loved playing this game and while I do think it needs tweaks, it is sad to see so many people dunking on it and treating it like it ISNT made with passion behind it. Idk. I understand criticism but it often seems to blend into needless nitpicking. I’ve got high hopes for this game and I can’t wait to see how far it can go.
Something being made with passion is never a pass for any type of criticism, just look a Concord. I myself am critical of Space Marine 2, not because I hate it but because I love it. I’ve said since Day 1 that it’s good but there’s not enough content, and people are starting to be more vocal about it now. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment!
great video Brother! Love this game but I've moved onto Darktide (PS5) was getting a bit bored, we defo need the Horde Mode asap. They need to make it fun, not story driven. Then they could add lots of different new characters, modifiers ect. Fingers crossed
Thank you for watching brother! I agree about it getting stale and while it’s taking a little too long, all we can do is wait and play something else. 👊💯
Darktide is more broken than cyberpunk 2077 on release my friend most all his data and another went from havoc 40 to 10 and I can't even start it and we're on PS5 darktide is ass vermintide 1 and 2 are way better
I think what would be really cool is if they added like a mini Great Game game mode, 24 players and 4 teams. 6 players on each team. Death Guard, Thousand Sons, World Eaters, and Emperor's Children (to represent the four Choas Gods) fight each other and whoever gets a certain amount of points is victorious.
As a Imperial Fist space marine. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF THE EMPEROR BUFF ALL BOLTER WEAPONS! I love the Heavy Bolt Rifle and Heavy Bolter I recently started using the Auto Bolt Rifle. But they feel like pea shooters in lethal. I hope in the new difficulty. They adjust the enemies health to make it far and challenging. And buff all weapons to make them usable.
Yeah wtf! Halo 3 did it all the way back in 2007! Let’s not forget the Golden Age of Call of Duty either. This game has more than 5 million recorded players surely they have the resources to pump out some extra maps. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment brother! 👊💯
I’m still holding onto the hope that maybe later on down the line they’ll give us a second champion skin for the Salamanders. I do think the Sniper looks cool, but Assualt or Heavy would easily have been the better fit. Oh well
Man its hella crazy. I just joined 40K a few weeks ago and built my Assault to look green (favorite color) and did some research. Green in the 40k universe are called The Salamander's. Bruh talk about good timing. cant wait to farm
@@BehindTheGrindTV i only ever played the ps3 game and the current ps5 game. Learning about the lore is a lot but im willing to learn. This game is just too godly! you gained a new sub and im here for it good sir!
Some rewards yeah, it’s mostly character logs with lore but after advancing enough within a certain category, you can get rewards. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment! 👊💯
FFA for PvP would be a disaster im sure of it. The TTK is too short for that mode to be enjoyable, however that is just my opinion. It could be fun for some.
Yeah like Eternal War doesn’t need to be lore accurate to exist I mean capturing three rings over and over isn’t lore accurate but thanks for watching! 👊💯
Personally I’d like if they made this like destiny where the story just keeps getting fleshed out in the operations mode and giving the pvp some quality of life like footsteps assault jetpack having a launch sound change the leveling system so it works like operations so I’m not getting weapons I don’t need for my class
I haven’t played the game since October 8th or something… the new updates have been so boring for me and I maxed out 3 classes. I think I’ll wait til horde mode comes
Orks would be cool I mean the best Warhammer 40,000 videogame would literally be Space Marine 2 with all factions in a perfect world. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment man! 👊💯
It feels like a lot of the people complaining about things aren't very familiar with how GW operates, or 40k as a whole, it has nothing to do with Saber not wanting to churn out content, or updates, they are servicing the IP of another company, a company that takes big interest in said IP, because let's face it, Warhammer hasn't gone down the drain like a lot of other franchises. So yeah, updates are going to take time, new content, is going to take time, because it all needs approval, ESPECIALLY WHOLE NEW OPERATIONS! So...y'all need to put on your watches, because like it or not, you're gonna wait. (Everyone should be happy a game this good even exists at all.)
It feels like you’re not okay with consumers being consumers. People don’t care about how Games Workshop or 40k operates, this isn’t the tabletop. This is a video game, and unfortunately you’re gonna be held to video game standards. To the average consumer, it had everything to do with Saber, we don’t care who they have to go through. If you can’t get some maps or gamemodes greenlit by the company, then maybe you shouldn’t make a video game. Gamers have high standards for a reason. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment though, if people have to “put on a watch”, they’re just gonna stop playing.
Negative brother (maybe in Space Marine 3) but the next PvP map will be set in a Necron like environment! Thanks for watching and leaving a comment! 👊💯
Shooting themselves in the foot by saying Heavy was already taken - by an initial release $100 pay wall - is wildly insulting to fans. Now that I've maxed out absolutely everything, the painful dribble of nonsensical design choices doesn't inspire much confidence about it's future, or much of a reason to consistently return to it for that matter. Feels like an impassioned love letter to die hard fans, with a thinly veiled bomb threat scrawled on the back in crayon.
@@BehindTheGrindTV Exactly. I hate seeing it whenever I'm re-customizing my Heavy; Just sitting there, looking right at me but just out of reach. If you didn't get the Ultra Edition then it shouldn't even be there. Great video and coverage! Looking forward to more of your analysis!
@@henriboteule yeah Buddy cause they games in a great place right now isn't it. It's people like you that make games this way with the constant praise/crucifixion of anyone you don't agree with.
Play fortnite then. I enjoy the game, extra content is a plus. But guess I'm a relic because I remember buying a game and having no extra content. You waited for the sequel, if they even made one.
The Salamander sniper is so dumb and outside of what their chapter is known for. Who cares if the UM already has a Heavy skin. The Salamanders should have gotten a heave with a melta or flamer.
@@BehindTheGrindTV It's especially annoying since they always talk about being lore accurate. They are also missing a lot of opportunities with chapter-specific traits. Like if Salamanders got a -5 to 10% reduction in heat or cooldown with melta and flamers, or Raven guard get a damage bonus or cooldown reduction on stealth, blood angels get a cooldown reduction on jump packs, etc...
We dont need a new difficulty its just padding for the lack of content. Salamanders should never have been the Sniper champion and the champions should not be locked to one class, thats just stupid.
The game balance is terrible. Melee damage sucks, bolter damager sucks, and now they want to add a harder difficulty? Sabre is a joke. Salamanders sniper skin? Totally stupid. Now they want to add some 3d model viewer that nobody asked for? I just dont get it. I love this game and how awesome it is at times, but sabre is so damn lazy with their lackluster updates. Still no 5.2 update. Still no balance fixes. One new weapon in the past 4 months. Idk. The future of this game looks very bleak.
"Melee sucks" Me casually creating kill chains while swarmed and landing all my parries. The combat doesn't suck, YOU suck. For fucks sake I annihilate with the power fist the weapon everyone says "sucks" but doesn't how to use
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I could care less about PvP. Dont get me wrong, I enjoy it, but it is a way of ruining a game because it always ends up being the focus. I heard someone in the comments say, "I wish this game was less story driven," like, really?! The 40k lore is what makes it great. Capt Titus story was literally written into the lore. He is a character in 40k now. I dont ever want a game that is all about online.
Well, yeah but then why put in the effort to make a PvP mode to begin with. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment! 👊💯
I feel like people complaining for some reason thought this game was live service, and it was never advertised as that. It's built like the old gears of war games and that style of content. The game probably sold better than expected, so year 1 is light on content in case the game failed, so they didn't get trapped into huge promises with no players. Im sure the dev team watched all the live service games fail miserably and tried to play it safe cant even blame them. And the skin for sniper isn't even that bad. All the other classes will get salamander armor parts anyway. You now get to build your own heavy and add the new parts.
Thank you for watching and leaving a comment brother! 👊💯
Finally someone with a head on his shoulders
Yeah but it’s also showing how dumb their forced constraints are. Theres no need to limit cosmetics to being chapter specific over 2 years. That’s ridiculous.
Say you want the cosmetics for the space wolves for example, and say that their items are coming at the end of 2026, you’re long done with the game by then.
They’ve cut themselves off from so much business, most players have walked away by now. If they had more items for more classes rather than drip drip a random chapter every 4 months and limit it to 2 classes they might actually sell more…. People are begging for stuff to buy and it’s not there. People are going to be long done with this game, a lot are already. They majorly shot themselves in the foot for that.
worst take ever they knew full well how well this would sell horde mode is base game content for first game stop defending them theres no excuse for the failed implementation
@@famalam943 actually there is. Firstly they have to get approval by GW ensuring the IP is within the limits. Secondly again like he said this isn’t a live service game. And thirdly you do realize that season 3 we will be getting two champion packs? One for the sniper salamander and the other another chapter. And fourth you’re actually incorrect. They did the same thing with world war z it came out in 2019 and they’re still putting out dlc and content. You’re just giving entitled live service vibe with Cod, Helldivers and Fortnite. If you’re complaining and impatient of about it then remove yourself from the game and go elsewhere fr.
Seeing how Raven Guard cosmetics were already datamined - I think the second Champion (if there will be a second one) that comes without the cosmetic pack is not going to be RG.
Raven Guard Assault will probably come in Season 4 where a new melee weapon is listed on the roadmap, making a perfect fit to introduce the Lightning Claws. At least I hope that is the plan - it would be perfect and makes a lot of sense.
yeah it would make a lot of sense. especially since they have new claw patterns out now for the black templars sword brethren and kayvaan shrike
I see now yeah that does make a lot of sense! Thanks for watching and leaving a comment brother! 👊💯
It would make sense which is why saber probably won't do it. Every choice theyve made regarding this game is questionable.
Where are you getting lightning claws from? It's not happening, yall are just speculating. That would require too much, if they haven't already planned it. Claws? Two? That's a whole new pose, animations, and bunch of coding just to get dual melee to work, when GW has been getting rid of claws on most vanilla units. Sure, sounds perfect, but you're asking for too much. 40K fans are sooooooooooooo demanding. Yall need to remember this is about balancing video game development and profits for Sabre, not just giving you everything you want
@TurbanCatMccoy and people like you are why games release in a bare bones state absolutely happy with everything that's put out.
Your such a good channel, always keeping me up to date, tysm
@@tox8885 Thanks for watching! 👊💯
I’ve loved playing this game and while I do think it needs tweaks, it is sad to see so many people dunking on it and treating it like it ISNT made with passion behind it. Idk. I understand criticism but it often seems to blend into needless nitpicking. I’ve got high hopes for this game and I can’t wait to see how far it can go.
Something being made with passion is never a pass for any type of criticism, just look a Concord. I myself am critical of Space Marine 2, not because I hate it but because I love it. I’ve said since Day 1 that it’s good but there’s not enough content, and people are starting to be more vocal about it now. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment!
great video Brother! Love this game but I've moved onto Darktide (PS5) was getting a bit bored, we defo need the Horde Mode asap. They need to make it fun, not story driven. Then they could add lots of different new characters, modifiers ect. Fingers crossed
Thank you for watching brother! I agree about it getting stale and while it’s taking a little too long, all we can do is wait and play something else. 👊💯
Darktide is more broken than cyberpunk 2077 on release my friend most all his data and another went from havoc 40 to 10 and I can't even start it and we're on PS5 darktide is ass vermintide 1 and 2 are way better
I have to completely disagree dude unless you played Cyberpunk 2077 on release it’s nowhere near that bad
@GiggyWiggy2086If you’re ass at the game just say that
I think what would be really cool is if they added like a mini Great Game game mode, 24 players and 4 teams. 6 players on each team. Death Guard, Thousand Sons, World Eaters, and Emperor's Children (to represent the four Choas Gods) fight each other and whoever gets a certain amount of points is victorious.
That would be sick, I mean the groundwork is already there. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment! 👊💯
As a Imperial Fist space marine. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF THE EMPEROR BUFF ALL BOLTER WEAPONS! I love the Heavy Bolt Rifle and Heavy Bolter I recently started using the Auto Bolt Rifle. But they feel like pea shooters in lethal. I hope in the new difficulty. They adjust the enemies health to make it far and challenging. And buff all weapons to make them usable.
Remember map packs? Yeah... Me too :(
Yeah wtf! Halo 3 did it all the way back in 2007! Let’s not forget the Golden Age of Call of Duty either. This game has more than 5 million recorded players surely they have the resources to pump out some extra maps. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment brother! 👊💯
Isnt it bettwr everyone gets the maps for free? It doesnt spilt the playerbase
Why can't we have multiple champion skins for the same class?
I mean they’re gonna have too down the line! Only 3 classes haven’t been done yet. Thanks for watching brother! 👊💯
I’m still holding onto the hope that maybe later on down the line they’ll give us a second champion skin for the Salamanders. I do think the Sniper looks cool, but Assualt or Heavy would easily have been the better fit. Oh well
We be getting new enemies but will we be getting marines and weapons to defeat them😭 it’s all I want
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Man its hella crazy. I just joined 40K a few weeks ago and built my Assault to look green (favorite color) and did some research. Green in the 40k universe are called The Salamander's. Bruh talk about good timing. cant wait to farm
Thanks for watching and leaving a comment! Yeah my favorite chapter is either Ultramarines or Imperial Fists. 👊💯
@@BehindTheGrindTV i only ever played the ps3 game and the current ps5 game. Learning about the lore is a lot but im willing to learn. This game is just too godly! you gained a new sub and im here for it good sir!
Great game but it's 100% limited game
Thanks for watching! 👊💯
Between rdr 2 and this idk who dropped the ball harder waiting months for the bare minimum is brutal
Yeah man it blows. Thanks for watching and sharing a comment 👊💯
So what’s the research center , is that stuff we can unlock and use ?
Some rewards yeah, it’s mostly character logs with lore but after advancing enough within a certain category, you can get rewards. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment! 👊💯
As a Warhammer fan I was lowkey disappointed when I had more fun with helldivers 2 rather than space marine 2
Lmao Helldivers 2 is a great game to be played though so it’s fine, thanks for watching and leaving a comment brother! 👊💯
FFA for PvP would be a disaster im sure of it. The TTK is too short for that mode to be enjoyable, however that is just my opinion. It could be fun for some.
Private pve mod needs players limit options up to 5 and option to remove class restrictions
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And that ultramarine heavy shoukd be able to be bought ive seen it once since release.
It’s frustrating because I don’t have it either. Thanks for watching! 👊💯
Free for all m9de would go against the lore so don't hold your breath for it more chance of winning the lottery
They made a female version of these dudes. I wouldn't doubt them bowing down to fads
Yeah like Eternal War doesn’t need to be lore accurate to exist I mean capturing three rings over and over isn’t lore accurate but thanks for watching! 👊💯
Didnt the minotaur fight against the astartes and many other chapters sparred with eachother
It could exist. You could add or make up any scenario IF they even cared about the lore in multi-player.
If its all chaos guys in a free for all it could 100% work though. Those have infighting all the time.
Personally I’d like if they made this like destiny where the story just keeps getting fleshed out in the operations mode and giving the pvp some quality of life like footsteps assault jetpack having a launch sound change the leveling system so it works like operations so I’m not getting weapons I don’t need for my class
Thanks for watching and leaving a comment!
I've been wanting to play as a legitimate night lord
Thanks for watching and leaving a comment brother! 👊💯
I haven’t played the game since
October 8th or something… the new updates have been so boring for me and I maxed out 3 classes. I think I’ll wait til horde mode comes
Thanks for watching and leaving a comment brother!
I rather if the assault class gets a blood angels champion. Maybe giving him some cool blood wings on the jetpack
That would be sick brother! Thanks for watching and leaving a comment! 👊💯
I wonder if a prestige would give Yu more mastery points seems most logical. Also really hope they eventually add a new xeno faction like orjs
Orks would be cool I mean the best Warhammer 40,000 videogame would literally be Space Marine 2 with all factions in a perfect world. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment man! 👊💯
FOR HOLY TERRA
The Emperor protects, thanks for watching 👊💯
Not a live service but multiple seasons planned... huh?
Yeah right! Thanks for watching and leaving a comment. 👊💯
Hi bro when this update?
Hey brother should be relatively soon! If I had to guess by the end of the month. Thanks for watching! 👊🤪
I constantly feel underwhelmed by the updates of this game....@@BehindTheGrindTV
It feels like a lot of the people complaining about things aren't very familiar with how GW operates, or 40k as a whole, it has nothing to do with Saber not wanting to churn out content, or updates, they are servicing the IP of another company, a company that takes big interest in said IP, because let's face it, Warhammer hasn't gone down the drain like a lot of other franchises.
So yeah, updates are going to take time, new content, is going to take time, because it all needs approval, ESPECIALLY WHOLE NEW OPERATIONS!
So...y'all need to put on your watches, because like it or not, you're gonna wait.
(Everyone should be happy a game this good even exists at all.)
It feels like you’re not okay with consumers being consumers. People don’t care about how Games Workshop or 40k operates, this isn’t the tabletop.
This is a video game, and unfortunately you’re gonna be held to video game standards. To the average consumer, it had everything to do with Saber, we don’t care who they have to go through. If you can’t get some maps or gamemodes greenlit by the company, then maybe you shouldn’t make a video game. Gamers have high standards for a reason.
Thanks for watching and leaving a comment though, if people have to “put on a watch”, they’re just gonna stop playing.
At this point I’ll just uninstall and come back in 6 months and just hope there are more than 2 new maps and one new weapon.
I don’t blame you chief, it’s ridiculous. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment! 👊💯
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@megandrawlerstories1821 Thanks for watching! 👊💯
Necrons are coming??
Negative brother (maybe in Space Marine 3) but the next PvP map will be set in a Necron like environment! Thanks for watching and leaving a comment! 👊💯
no, i am 💦💦💦
Shooting themselves in the foot by saying Heavy was already taken - by an initial release $100 pay wall - is wildly insulting to fans. Now that I've maxed out absolutely everything, the painful dribble of nonsensical design choices doesn't inspire much confidence about it's future, or much of a reason to consistently return to it for that matter. Feels like an impassioned love letter to die hard fans, with a thinly veiled bomb threat scrawled on the back in crayon.
Yeah we don’t even get access to that champion anymore, it’s ridiculous. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment! 👊💯
@@BehindTheGrindTV Exactly. I hate seeing it whenever I'm re-customizing my Heavy; Just sitting there, looking right at me but just out of reach. If you didn't get the Ultra Edition then it shouldn't even be there. Great video and coverage! Looking forward to more of your analysis!
Game had unlimited potential but me and pretty much everyone else has dropped it. Waiting months for slight updates and bad paid content isnt good.
I can agree with the frustration brother, thanks for watching and leaving a comment 👊💯
go play some live service game this ain't it
@@henriboteule yeah Buddy cause they games in a great place right now isn't it. It's people like you that make games this way with the constant praise/crucifixion of anyone you don't agree with.
This games content come out to slow
I agree thanks for watching 👊💯
Play fortnite then. I enjoy the game, extra content is a plus. But guess I'm a relic because I remember buying a game and having no extra content. You waited for the sequel, if they even made one.
@ eh naw content too slow and boring
@@gruffalobill4812shut the hell up we need more content in this game and more balance patches
@@keivonmayes4907 sounds like someone is struggling 😆
The Salamander sniper is so dumb and outside of what their chapter is known for. Who cares if the UM already has a Heavy skin. The Salamanders should have gotten a heave with a melta or flamer.
I agree 100% man, that comment made the developers seem really out of touch. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment brother! 👊💯
@@BehindTheGrindTV It's especially annoying since they always talk about being lore accurate. They are also missing a lot of opportunities with chapter-specific traits. Like if Salamanders got a -5 to 10% reduction in heat or cooldown with melta and flamers, or Raven guard get a damage bonus or cooldown reduction on stealth, blood angels get a cooldown reduction on jump packs, etc...
The elevator music kills the vibe lol
Well I like it man so it’ll have to stay lol. Thanks for watching and commenting though! 👊💯
Yes disappointing are these content updates... but I guess we gota settle for something lol
Yeah lmao that’s what I said, gotta be grateful we’re at least getting something. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment brother 👊💯
@@BehindTheGrindTVfuck no we shouldn’t be settling for the bare minimum
We dont need a new difficulty its just padding for the lack of content. Salamanders should never have been the Sniper champion and the champions should not be locked to one class, thats just stupid.
I dont know about free for all, wouldn't make sense lore wise
Who cares? Its a fun mode -__-
@m1stern00by Games workshop does
Capturing 3 rings over and over doesn’t make sense either
They gotta realize that a video game is being made here in a mode that is purely for fun
The game is lacking of something
FUN
Nothing more feels like 40k than darktide, space marines is just so boring
The game balance is terrible. Melee damage sucks, bolter damager sucks, and now they want to add a harder difficulty? Sabre is a joke. Salamanders sniper skin? Totally stupid. Now they want to add some 3d model viewer that nobody asked for? I just dont get it. I love this game and how awesome it is at times, but sabre is so damn lazy with their lackluster updates. Still no 5.2 update. Still no balance fixes. One new weapon in the past 4 months. Idk. The future of this game looks very bleak.
Yes lord inquisitor this one-
I can agree with the frustration man it’s annoying but I’ll report you to the Inquisition myself thanks for watching! 👊💯
I beat everything on lethal haven't touched the difficulty since. Tyranids are still fun to fight but chaos after substantial is just torture.
Salamanders have snipers.
All leigons have snipers.
Cry more, stay mad, play something else
"Melee sucks"
Me casually creating kill chains while swarmed and landing all my parries.
The combat doesn't suck, YOU suck. For fucks sake I annihilate with the power fist the weapon everyone says "sucks" but doesn't how to use