@@ketherga English towns are usually named depending on location or trait. Other countries have just stupid names. Some of the cities in my country is called Ace Mountain (it has nothing to do with either) and Eel Castle (even though there is no castle and eels have never been in our seas) or my personal favourite: Sperm.
Nona Usagi I could not find the explanation for two of Them, but Googled a few other weird towns. Apparently it’s a case of officials from the capital not understanding countryside accents. Therefore, When writing the name Down after having asked what it was called they’d misspell it. Eventually, the name was just changed to the misspelled version. Eel castle is Aalborg in danish. This is apparently a misspelling of állburgh (old-Danish for fortified City (burgh) where the inlet narrows (áll) Apparently out Capital Copenhagen/København (Buy a harbour) is also a simplified version Køpmannæhafn (which means City of traders)
forsen boi I mean Secco wears a gimp suit and is in a Sadomasochistic relationship with a guy dressed like a priest, so I mean, he isn’t exactly too far from a male stripper.
It sounds like a bunch of post apocalyptic drug-users that wear tight leather outfits and go on unnecessary quests of violence against anyone resembling a main character.
Your confession about writing some of the worst things ever at the age of 15 made me shed a tear, because I wrote a novel at that age and I can safely say it's the worst thing I've ever read.
I wrote a script for a film when I was about 13, but then lost it. I was devastated, because I was absolutely convinced it was great. A few years later, I found it again at the bottom of a drawer in my old room, and was so excited to read it again. It was terrible.
Just came from your live, your book is amazing and even tho the first chapter is cliche, the rest of the series is amazing hence you having millions of fans ❤❤
“like the sea before a storm” “like the sea during a storm” “like the sea after a storm” All of these descriptions I’ve read in YA books, even some of my favorites 😂 I guess it really is something authors feel the need to do, boring average eyes will NOT be tolerated here😂
I thought KPop girls were an internet myth then I met one at my school trying to learn Korean due to her love for BTS may god save our souls. They seem normal at first then you slowly realize the evil hiding within
any recommendations? I haven't had the best experience on the app. Most of the top stories on the app tend to be pure sexual fantasies about some hot guy that lack character and plot depth, which is fine and totally understandable, but personally I'm looking for some better writing, something more meaningful.
@@farhana9025 not many I’ve really just read nieche fan fictions from small fandoms I’m a part of......just say away from anything that feels offensively bad, and go with what you think you will enjoy
Not every Wattpad story is the same. Many are actually good and have a message. Trust me, they exist. Once you get past the clichés, great writers have great stories on the app.
The authors put so much of a focus on it and you can tell they want to fall in love with a hot boy (what straight teenage girl doesn’t?) yet they shame girls for it, and label themselves as “not like other girls” as if it makes them superior. Honestly us humans would have so much fun if we just stopped caring about such trivial things, and judging people for them as if it those things were all we are
Most of it is written by teenage girls/young women with raging hormones, what's disturbing about dreaming about having sex and writing it down? It's a completely natural urge and probably something many of them haven't gotten around to experience yet or know their audience is craving because the audience lacks it. Yea sure it would be nice to have more works that aren't focused on love and sex, but who are we to insult people's sexual outlet? It's not like we go around porn sites and complain that the movies have too much focus on sex..? Erotic fiction IS many women's porn after all.
HaichaoTeaLover I don’t actually have a problem with it if it’s in that context, my issue with it is when authors use their stories to slut shame. Like they will literally create a character (99.99% of the time a girl) who’s sole purpose is to be a “whore” the author can dehumanize and use to make the main character and themselves feel superior. The worst part of it is sometimes this character hooks up with the love interest who isn’t shamed at all so the love interest can later reject them for the mc. A good example of this is “after” the one direction fanfic that somehow became a movie. Just look at a few random chapters on Wattpad or watch videos reviewing it and you’ll see what I’m talking about.
Preach to this. Wattpad is full of cliche books, even the published books suck, and if you just voice out your opinion, the authors send their readers to harass you.
Imo its not a bad place to start, but for progressing, especially from intermediate levels to advanced (eg publishing), it stops being a helpful platform
Okay so Muslim girls writing about dating white guys. This is coming from a Muslim (or raised Muslim) fanfiction writer who grew up in the UK. So romantic and sexual repression is something a lot of us grills experience due to the religious values we’re raised with. Beyond that we’re pretty encouraged against race mixing, which conflicts with the feelings we probably have developed for the guys around us. In movies we see cool white guys, in fantasy books we see cool white guys, in all the shitty fanfiction we read we see cool white guys, and in our classes we see some pretty lame white guys. But the point is our bodies and urges really conflict with what we’ve been raised to think- so when we try to express our repressed desires through fanfiction that’s the kinda what your mind goes to. A struggle we are familiar with that feels dangerous and interesting. It’s fantasy fulfillment- having the confidence and freedom to express yourself and date however you want. This might be different for other girls or more religious girls but that’s how it was for me. :)
being someone from religious country with muslims as the majority population, i can defo see that. kinda wish more teen girls/young women that'd been raised in similar ways here take writing as a route for their sex repressed fantasy fullfilment instead of publicly thirsting and sexualising dudes they find attractive online tbh.
Urban fiction is so hilarious because it’s so unintentionally racist that’s it practically cartoony. I’m Puerto Rican, not black but I’ve lived surrounded by black people and other minorities, I live in “the ghetto” as our dear authors would call it and it’s so blatant that a lot of the authors for these works haven’t experienced this lifestyle. Sometimes it kind of insulting considering they romanticize certain aspects of this life that just shouldn’t be. My advice for those who’d like to write fiction in a more urban setting is, familiarize yourself with the culture and slang. Familiarize yourself with the struggles that come from living in impoverished communities and the struggles that can come from racism. Being a minority in country with institutional racism is something that’s interesting to write about and can include lots of melodrama that young readers love. My point is, if you’re going to write about a way of life that you don’t know about, either educate yourself or just put it in a fantasy setting or something.
My entire problem with reader X whatever fanfics is that they're super clunky and I find the process of inputting one's own features to be unnecessary and mental exhausting, or more than it should be when one is reading.
What I noticed being on wattpad is that most of the stories have way better covers than most books in stores. Especially those with the worst stories have the most intriguing cover- art and title for some reason 😬
Probably because published books have cover art made by cover art artists hired by the publisher. The authors themselves often have little say in that matter. I don't like it either. I don't know for sure, but since you can upload any image for your cover I imagine a lot of wattpad authors using images from the web, often without permission or the rights to this. Publishers are very cautious of this so they choose to create their own. Wattpad stories often aren't monetized though so it'd fall under fair use, thus most wpad authors can just use whatever they find. And if the author can draw themselves then they have all the freedom to do so.
@@Aramythr I try to draw as much as I can, for my covers, but I sometimes take stuff from the web, a bit photo editing, a mix of both. And as a filler when I have no idea what to put, Canva, just slapping stuff together on Canva. I hate blank covers on Wattpad.
The third book you read was the most Wattpad thing I’ve ever heard of. It’s a mix of plot Armor, anti-plot Armor, and a slap in the face with how old the author is
"The pro is that I could understand what you were saying." Really the epitome of praise. That's just clutching at straws. However, it summarizes the majority of Wattpad stories.
The second story was probably not aware of it, but there's actually a very rare sickness that makes women want to have sex all the time. So you CAN interpret it as making fun of a minority group.
I've gone through the whole comment section, and the golden girl's fandom seems really butthurt. Its kind of weird, especially since the author is already okay with it. He already gave a disclaimer, and he didn't say anything really. Honestly, if he really DID give criticism as a seasoned reader, it would have been so much helpful for all the writers, but all of you wouldn't know that since you're blinded by the perfection that seems the book to you. One chapter is enough to decide if you want to let a book consume the time. Even if it gets better, what's the point if you have to torture yourself through cringe for the first chapters? The author said she has the better version, so kudos to her. But don't go around being so OH MY GOD HOW DARE HE SAY THAT? when he didn't even say anything that much
Ok so let me put this out here. I'm a fan of your videos, I watch them regularly, but let me write something in my defence. I'm the author of Two Gangs and a Golden Girl and I'm actually a decent writer considering that English is not my home language. Unfortunately, the works that I'm proud of never got any views. The thing about Wattpad is that all the cliche books get views. The good ones don't. So, with that in mind, I wrote Two Gangs and a Golden Girl. The first few chapters are written like that on purpose. I hate it to be honest. But if you read on, actually get closer to the end, you realize that it's nothing like it appears to be. The edited version of my book which is on other sites is much better as well. None of that cliche shit that I hated to write. I'm also known as Satan amongst my readers because I like killing characters and doing so abundantly. Amber seems perfect because it's meant to be like that until you realize she isn't. She makes human mistakes and she paints, not because she's quirky, but because I do. I really love painting - currently busy painting a giant map of my fantasy world in my book (A Godly Game) and I use your videos for tips and stuff for my writing. When my main character is forced to deal with death, she does turn dark and you see her trying to juggle being a kind painter and being in the middle of violence. The gold thing is used metaphorically. She's gold when she's good and silver when she's darker. I'm not angry at the comments, because I have much worse things in my head. I'm so ashamed of telling people about that book, even though it does a lot better than my other books. Honestly, though, I aspire to be a writer and I do put more time into the edited version where I don't have to be cliche to get views. My rereaders can defend me in that department and tell you that the book really isn't what it looks like. My main character doesn't fall for one of the two gang leaders and instead I work on friendship and teamwork and real pain and death. I laughed at most of the comments and how you read it. I'm still subscribed but kinda amused at the chances of you reading my book while I've been following you for a while. Edit: I'd like to add that I enjoy writing the action more than the romance. But I have a target audience so... It's not much of a choice. My racing scenes, fighting scenes and brutal reality is something I much more enjoyable and unfortunately I have to get teenage girls to read my book so I can't get to the good stuff until I have them. So sorry you had to experience that.
I've seen much worse out there. However bad you think your work is, thousands of people read and enjoyed it, you made something that touched people and you should be proud of that. Don't let my subjective tastes discourage you.
@@JamesTullos On the contrary, you make me realize just how much more editing the book needs. You gave me a point of view that I didn't have. Even if it hurts, it's true and I'll still remain a loyal subscriber. Sorry for my TED talk :)
No shame! I haven't read your book more. It was pretty well written actually, though it's not genre I would enjoy. It might need some revise, but you have clearly talent! Also it seems many people like your book, I saw multiple comments here defending it. Don't get discouraged and good luck on your writing journey!
I don't think that all of the wattpad demographic are just dummies that don't recognize shitty writing. I think it's more of a guilty pleasure. Most of the time, I dislike watpadd books because they lack substance and realistic storytelling and characters. But sometimes, when I'm feeling especially wishful for a dumb unrealistic romance with an asshole lead, I indulge myself.
I think he's one of those creators that equally reach both sex's audience. He reads books of a wide array of genres, his critiques are smart, & I think his nerdy awkward persona is inviting/cute to girls lol. At least, it's the case for me.
the thing at 19:33 with the five guys made me immediately think "Five Guys Burgers and Fries" which was just fucking hilarious to imagine a literal restaurant walking down the hallway
I'm so upset someone thinks demanding someone's hand in marriage in exchange for a favor is anarchism. How is that. I can't even. Like what. I mean she could so easily have said "I'll free you, and then, I hope you'll join my federation of free association, and then, together we can work to dismantle all unjust power structures." and that's a story i'd want to hear, too
@@JamesTullos It's fine lol. I'm just so embarrassed that you read the first chapter because I know how bad it sounds and you really have to read further to see how I get better and that it's not like it sounds at all. My edited version is on Inkitt and I promise you it's much better. I just wish you could've read something else by me or at least more than the first few purposefully cliche chapters of that book. Love the video though! Glad you didn't drag me too much. XD
@De Nile Thank you so much!!! I don't have the whole book on there yet, but after this video, I'll be working tirelessly to make sure I have my whole book edited 😅
are you sure about that. (i dont mean this in a mean way or whatevs. teenagers tend to not realise how stupid they are simply bc brain hasnt developed that far. just have fun being a dumbass whilst ye can; it might heavily decrease the chance ye grow up to be a twat.)
The only people who don’t cringe at their past mistakes are people who haven’t done anything in their lives. People are stupid no matter what age they are.
I read one of your stories (Collony Pollux) and it was actually rather good! It has good atmosphere and scene descriptions, and there's nice character dynamic (and the characters have differing personalities that are well conveyed through narrative and dialogue). It's not perfect and feels like wish fulfillment at times, but you shouldn't be ashamed of it!
I've been wanting you to do something like this, as you're one of the few youtubers that talks about written works and Wattpad is a gold mine of content in my opinion. Imagine my surprise when you made it an hour long, that's fantastic. There are so many heavy handed descriptions that it drives me insane. I SAID WHILE WEARING MY BROWN FRAYED SLIP ON MOCCASINS, MY SILK RED AND BLUE PAJAMA PANTS, AND MY WHITE, TATTERED AND OLD WIFE-BEATER THAT HASN'T SEEN THE MORNING SUN IN THREE YEARS. I ALSO FOR SOME REASON HAVE PERFECT WAVY BUT CURLY BUT STRAIGHT HAIR, AND MY EYES ARE CALLED HELEN BECAUSE THEY HAVE STARTED WARS SEVERAL TIMES WHEN I FELT PLAYFUL. Just exhausting. Also I disagree that these writers are all teenagers and thus immune to criticism. There are plenty of early to late 20's writers, and even if they genuinely are teenagers that doesn't excuse how trope-y they are. A writer can't improve if they forever think they are perfection. Most writers learn what is and is not good writing, but these successful Wattpad stories generate thousands of praise comments, how are these kids going to learn then? Critique is what might push them to growth, and even if it doesn't for them specifically, it might motivate others watching. You're doing necessary work here.
@@daughterofathena6104 I wish everyone thought the same as you. Wattpad writers especially get aggressive when confronted with criticism. Even totally valid yet respectful critique is met with "Well I haven't revised this and lol this is wattpad calm down" which is the exact opposite mindset you should have when met with dissection of your work. It's sad.
@@RyanKaufman It’s because a large portion of writers on Wattpad are young kids & teenagers who are naturally adverse to criticism, lol It’s not a great mindset, but people tend to grow out of it as they get older
As a Muslim girl who read a bunch of Muslim love stories when I was a teen and still read a few as a young adult, the reason why there are so many of them is that Muslim teen girls and young adult ladies crush on white guys and most of them never confess their crushes because it's frowned upon in the community, and this personally happened to me, and so most girls who read and write that stuff do it to get a happy ever after in spite of cultural difference.
I personally love Two gangs and a golden girl, but I wouldn't say it was one of the worst. Yes it has its bad moments, as does other books, but it gets better.
Regarding the muslim fiction, if I had to make a wild guess... I would say it's the same reason there are so many LGBT+ fics. It's a group of people that, in the current context of rampant islamophobia, often get ostracised by their peers, so to cope with that situation they escape into fiction.
As far as fiction involving Muslims being popular on Wattpad - Smart Podcast, Trashy Books did a thing on it a few years ago. Basically, it boils down to the fact that there was pent-up demand among Muslim girls for YA books that featured characters like them, and since many of them were already on Wattpad for RPFs, that kind of fiction was a logical next step - and it kind of developed from there.
I’m so happy that the number one thing I learned about this video is that I have the same average cut size as a creepy pasta character (can’t wait to throw that info out as a conversation starter)
You know, I find it silly how people make fun of writers on wattpad. I don't want to know what GRRMartin's or Brandon Sanderson's writing was like when they were teenagers, but I am pretty sure it was also bad and full of cliches. I work with children and often they have to write short stories and fantasy stories and most of the stories are very cliche: super handsome, good hero (mostly a self-insert) does something very awsome. Most writers start out writing Mary Sues and badly-cliched stuff, but that only helps them to mature and maybe one day, from all these hundreds of badly written stories, will emerge another GRRMartin, Brandon Sanderson and Tolkien. Most good writers started out their career in their twenties, thirties and fourties. To grow as a writer takes sometimes years and fanfiction and wattpad are ways for them to grow. Of course some of these stories are cringe-worthy as fuck, but for these kids it is a way to grow in confidence. Imagine writing something as a super edgy fifteen year old and how much confidence it can give you to try yourself on a real book. It might be worth it in the end.
O god I'm having flash backs to my old attempts at writing... I'm glad stuff like wattpad want around when I was a teenager. Started a WoW fanfiction with my main writing inspiration being the Immortals After Dark series.... Got about a page in before masterbation entered the narrative 😓
All I have to say is that as someone who has read a ton of Wattpad books, you gain an immunity. It's not a perfect immunity but it's good enough so some of the ones on the Dark Side of Wattpad don't haunt you as much.
Somebody needs to make a video about reading wattpad/fanfics but then they actually just start reading the most popular books of our generation and wonder why these are all so good. "Szeth Son Son Vallano, truthless of Shinovar, wore white on the day he was to kill a king"
One of my favourite activities when I'm bored is to read my old books on Wattpad. There's so many small things in the writing style and how I wrote dialogue that are so typical for Wattpad and I love laughing at it.
Honestly I have somehow expected something far worse, because as ashamed as I am to confess this I have read soo much worse. Kind of like the Beachtrip story but with tons of formatting and spelling mistakes.
i’m actually so sad my books in this. the concept was for fun, and i stopped writing it but thanks for saying my writing wasn’t bad @ 12:30 ... think becoming an author on the side is still a good idea for me? lmfao
Don't take it too hard, your work was really more weird than bad. If you want bad, check out my old stuff, it's awful. You put yourself out there and you put the work into writing, that's more than most people ever do and you should be proud.
Two Gangs and a Golden Girl is an amazing book,in my opinion, I don't really think it should be called 'awful' ,but people have different opinions,so...
"I'm from Hillside. It's on the side of a hill." That is absolutely god-tier writing.
Rainmoor = England
Snowtrees = Canada
Sheepgrass = New Zealand
Bighot = THE SUN
and final... California with nicer people = Hell.
Funfact, actually how towns are named.
@@ketherga English towns are usually named depending on location or trait. Other countries have just stupid names. Some of the cities in my country is called Ace Mountain (it has nothing to do with either) and Eel Castle (even though there is no castle and eels have never been in our seas) or my personal favourite: Sperm.
Nona Usagi I could not find the explanation for two of Them, but Googled a few other weird towns. Apparently it’s a case of officials from the capital not understanding countryside accents. Therefore, When writing the name Down after having asked what it was called they’d misspell it. Eventually, the name was just changed to the misspelled version.
Eel castle is Aalborg in danish. This is apparently a misspelling of állburgh (old-Danish for fortified City (burgh) where the inlet narrows (áll)
Apparently out Capital Copenhagen/København (Buy a harbour) is also a simplified version Køpmannæhafn (which means City of traders)
666th like because I’m immature, but also Y E S
"Leatherboys" sounds like a nickname for male strippers.
UN-Capital Also Secco from JJBA.
Wouldn't you like to know leatherboy
forsen boi I mean Secco wears a gimp suit and is in a Sadomasochistic relationship with a guy dressed like a priest, so I mean, he isn’t exactly too far from a male stripper.
It sounds like a bunch of post apocalyptic drug-users that wear tight leather outfits and go on unnecessary quests of violence against anyone resembling a main character.
Clockwork Orange vibes
I can’t tell whether this is definitive proof God is here and still working miracles amongst us, or that he has left us to die alone.
God exists but he just wants to mess with us because he thinks it's funny.
@totally not Jeff
Yup, God gets off to our misery. Nice.
God is dead, the creepypasta one killed him.
Could we at least have proper capitalization when talking about Him?
@@joannabertenshaw6150 nah
Your confession about writing some of the worst things ever at the age of 15 made me shed a tear, because I wrote a novel at that age and I can safely say it's the worst thing I've ever read.
I wrote a script for a film when I was about 13, but then lost it. I was devastated, because I was absolutely convinced it was great. A few years later, I found it again at the bottom of a drawer in my old room, and was so excited to read it again.
It was terrible.
Yeah...same with me. But I just laugh at it now. It's actually kind of funny how bad my old stories were.
I used to draw comics when I was 8/9. They actually aren't _that_ bad, the storyline is ... okay, but my grammar was shit.
i was so devastated by my terrible writing at 15 that i stopped writing for years
i am 15 and writing and cant wait to look at this shit in 5 years and decide it's terrible
Oh lord, I'm a Wattpad author and I am praying to not see my book.
Me as well, because they're not complete.
@@unknownman4966 BUT I'M IN HERE. I'm screaming. Two Gangs and a Golden Girl.... I'm ashamed to say that's me....
@@HollyShmit haiiii I'm here too wattpad writer too yay yay
Just came from your live, your book is amazing and even tho the first chapter is cliche, the rest of the series is amazing hence you having millions of fans ❤❤
we still love your book holly ❤️
18:42 "Jocks are fletching"
Now I'm imagining some jock leaning against a locker all cool-like while putting feathers on an arrow.
Not gonna lie, that would make a great visual in a post apocalyptic high school drama.
@@thishonestgrifter there's something like that on Netflix
Frisbee team! We ride at dawn!
I thought he said flexing
I'm so tempted to push the limits of Wattpad and and write a bad story on par with my immortal
Yes, that would be awesome!!
Do it
lol give pokemon the my immortal treatment
*insert emperor Palpatine here*
Dew it!
darth brunn oh ho ho ho.
i’ll personally do that with pokemon.
What is it with Wattpad writers and comparing eyes to oceans? Y'all see 'ocean eyes' and you KNOW it's the love interest.
"He's got ocean eyes ... hella fucking scary with its uncharted depths. In an instant I pivoted and noped out of his way."
I want to see someone describe eyes as the English Channel
Full of plastic and fish poop,
“like the sea before a storm”
“like the sea during a storm”
“like the sea after a storm”
All of these descriptions I’ve read in YA books, even some of my favorites 😂 I guess it really is something authors feel the need to do, boring average eyes will NOT be tolerated here😂
Wattpad has some gems here and there but the amount of sexual and kpop fanfiction is actually disturbing
I thought KPop girls were an internet myth then I met one at my school trying to learn Korean due to her love for BTS may god save our souls. They seem normal at first then you slowly realize the evil hiding within
Lol!😁 Same here, they're so annoying.
any recommendations? I haven't had the best experience on the app. Most of the top stories on the app tend to be pure sexual fantasies about some hot guy that lack character and plot depth, which is fine and totally understandable, but personally I'm looking for some better writing, something more meaningful.
@@farhana9025 not many I’ve really just read nieche fan fictions from small fandoms I’m a part of......just say away from anything that feels offensively bad, and go with what you think you will enjoy
There is so much weird kinky shot on there. Kinda disturbing to think that the authors are in high schools. But my god is it fucking funny.
Not every Wattpad story is the same. Many are actually good and have a message. Trust me, they exist. Once you get past the clichés, great writers have great stories on the app.
People are horny. It isn't disturbing, but expected.
The authors put so much of a focus on it and you can tell they want to fall in love with a hot boy (what straight teenage girl doesn’t?) yet they shame girls for it, and label themselves as “not like other girls” as if it makes them superior. Honestly us humans would have so much fun if we just stopped caring about such trivial things, and judging people for them as if it those things were all we are
Most of it is written by teenage girls/young women with raging hormones, what's disturbing about dreaming about having sex and writing it down? It's a completely natural urge and probably something many of them haven't gotten around to experience yet or know their audience is craving because the audience lacks it.
Yea sure it would be nice to have more works that aren't focused on love and sex, but who are we to insult people's sexual outlet?
It's not like we go around porn sites and complain that the movies have too much focus on sex..? Erotic fiction IS many women's porn after all.
HaichaoTeaLover I don’t actually have a problem with it if it’s in that context, my issue with it is when authors use their stories to slut shame. Like they will literally create a character (99.99% of the time a girl) who’s sole purpose is to be a “whore” the author can dehumanize and use to make the main character and themselves feel superior. The worst part of it is sometimes this character hooks up with the love interest who isn’t shamed at all so the love interest can later reject them for the mc. A good example of this is “after” the one direction fanfic that somehow became a movie. Just look at a few random chapters on Wattpad or watch videos reviewing it and you’ll see what I’m talking about.
Yes! Finally someone agrees please,please read Constantine:Daughter of war it's really good!
Aspiring young authors of the world who are actually looking to improve their skills, please *stay far, far away from Wattpad.*
Preach to this. Wattpad is full of cliche books, even the published books suck, and if you just voice out your opinion, the authors send their readers to harass you.
Imo its not a bad place to start, but for progressing, especially from intermediate levels to advanced (eg publishing), it stops being a helpful platform
Archive of our own has better stuff imho.
@Donald J. Trump You or your ghostwriter?
I honestly just write fanfiction for fun
*my immortal intensifies*
@@-bamks *cursing intensifies*
But isn't that from fanfiction.com
Í̴̜̬̃͘'̴̰̂͘m̸͕͝ ̴̪͇͙͠s̶̟̝̦̓̄o̴̹̥͍͆ ̴̤̝͈̑t̵̢̾̓͑ī̴̼r̵̰̂́̇ͅẻ̶̠̚̚d̵͚̯͊͊ ̴̮͎̙̓̉ò̷̰͖f̵̗̠̥̏ ̸͕̉b̵̹̝̈́̋͜e̶̫͍̓͊i̶̩͈̓̋n̵͙͈̞̽̅g̶̛͔̟̿̀ ̴̲͑͘h̵̖̺̒̅e̶̠͑ȑ̴̜̺ͅe̴̟͇̳̍̊͝
@@PonkChonk me too
-see that’s different that’s --fanfiction.net-
Okay so Muslim girls writing about dating white guys. This is coming from a Muslim (or raised Muslim) fanfiction writer who grew up in the UK. So romantic and sexual repression is something a lot of us grills experience due to the religious values we’re raised with. Beyond that we’re pretty encouraged against race mixing, which conflicts with the feelings we probably have developed for the guys around us. In movies we see cool white guys, in fantasy books we see cool white guys, in all the shitty fanfiction we read we see cool white guys, and in our classes we see some pretty lame white guys. But the point is our bodies and urges really conflict with what we’ve been raised to think- so when we try to express our repressed desires through fanfiction that’s the kinda what your mind goes to. A struggle we are familiar with that feels dangerous and interesting. It’s fantasy fulfillment- having the confidence and freedom to express yourself and date however you want. This might be different for other girls or more religious girls but that’s how it was for me. :)
being someone from religious country with muslims as the majority population, i can defo see that. kinda wish more teen girls/young women that'd been raised in similar ways here take writing as a route for their sex repressed fantasy fullfilment instead of publicly thirsting and sexualising dudes they find attractive online tbh.
wow, as a muslim girl, accurate
As a white bloke in the UK, I really can't see the appeal myself.
@RyanToBeFunny Thanks for sharing! It's great to get insight on something I know so little about.
@@runningcommentary2125 why did you feel the need to comment that? Lmao it's obvious you don't feel like that
If a writer calls someone critiquing their work a “bully” than they shouldn’t be a writer.
Or, post their shite in public. Why show it then when you can't take the heat?
The creepypasta guy forgot the first rule of harem creation:
Include one (1) flatty.
Also that protagonist is Saitama confirmed.
I see you're a man of culture
Flat is justice~
@@minacheyo6242 oppai is truth
@@alphaikaros417 medium is premium
Urban fiction is so hilarious because it’s so unintentionally racist that’s it practically cartoony. I’m Puerto Rican, not black but I’ve lived surrounded by black people and other minorities, I live in “the ghetto” as our dear authors would call it and it’s so blatant that a lot of the authors for these works haven’t experienced this lifestyle. Sometimes it kind of insulting considering they romanticize certain aspects of this life that just shouldn’t be. My advice for those who’d like to write fiction in a more urban setting is, familiarize yourself with the culture and slang. Familiarize yourself with the struggles that come from living in impoverished communities and the struggles that can come from racism. Being a minority in country with institutional racism is something that’s interesting to write about and can include lots of melodrama that young readers love. My point is, if you’re going to write about a way of life that you don’t know about, either educate yourself or just put it in a fantasy setting or something.
You overestimate the capacity of 14 year olds to travel and empathize
My entire problem with reader X whatever fanfics is that they're super clunky and I find the process of inputting one's own features to be unnecessary and mental exhausting, or more than it should be when one is reading.
What I noticed being on wattpad is that most of the stories have way better covers than most books in stores. Especially those with the worst stories have the most intriguing cover- art and title for some reason 😬
Probably because published books have cover art made by cover art artists hired by the publisher. The authors themselves often have little say in that matter. I don't like it either.
I don't know for sure, but since you can upload any image for your cover I imagine a lot of wattpad authors using images from the web, often without permission or the rights to this. Publishers are very cautious of this so they choose to create their own. Wattpad stories often aren't monetized though so it'd fall under fair use, thus most wpad authors can just use whatever they find.
And if the author can draw themselves then they have all the freedom to do so.
art theft
@@Aramythr I try to draw as much as I can, for my covers, but I sometimes take stuff from the web, a bit photo editing, a mix of both. And as a filler when I have no idea what to put, Canva, just slapping stuff together on Canva.
I hate blank covers on Wattpad.
So apparently you have fucked up James, clearly from these comments Two Gangs and a Golden Girl is the best book ever
I haven't even watched the video. The title Two Gangs and a Girl just sounds like porn for gangrape
All i'm getting from this is that Two Gangs and a Golden Girl has a more passionate following than The Wheel of Time jeysus
OH MY GOD SOMEONE TOLD ME THEY FOUND MY STORY, FUCKBOY, THROUGH YOU. This is so funny, I hate that story so much oh lord
You wrote that? Oh my god.
"Jocks are fletching--" I'd actually watch that high school movie. Every clique just makes weapons constantly
Is death by cringe even possible? Yes.
if an 11 year old was trying to teach my senior class I'd walk out, rip to those students but I'm different
Aye, thanks for reminding me to purge my shitty wattpad account
"There was a global pandemic"
JAMES YOU HAVE CURSED US
YOU SPOKE THE WORDS ALOUD
It was written in 2009
@@ewptyewpewp YEAH, HE CURSED US TO HAVE A PANDEMIC A DECADE LATER!!
@@ewptyewpewp but he said the words out loud right beforehand
These stories make me feel bad for being an 18 year old virgin
are u a 20 year old virgin now
Did you get that printed taken care of
@@nicoledoubleyou Idk what does that mean but I lost my V card kinda recently with my bf of 3 years 🤓
The third book you read was the most Wattpad thing I’ve ever heard of. It’s a mix of plot Armor, anti-plot Armor, and a slap in the face with how old the author is
"The pro is that I could understand what you were saying."
Really the epitome of praise. That's just clutching at straws. However, it summarizes the majority of Wattpad stories.
Sweet jesus..these books are uh, mature.
Meanwhile the only wattpad story I consistently write is about interdimensional space clowns :/
Hey I’d read that!
Drop the title!!
@@bridesheaddeserted caring for your clown 🤡
What's the title
@@queerlibtardhippie9357 caring for your clown but it's currently only the first 3 chapters. As I'm in beta testing and plan to publish soon
As a fellow 22-year-old, "fuckboi" (must be spelled b-o-i) is still an adjective people use, unfortunately.
The second story was probably not aware of it, but there's actually a very rare sickness that makes women want to have sex all the time. So you CAN interpret it as making fun of a minority group.
"leather boys" sounds like a term for a group of male dominatrixes I can't even
I checked Urbandictionary, and a Plug appears to be someone who sells drugs.
As a fantasy writer I’m dying inside so much
"I grab my mask and my knife" wow this story predicted 2020
I've gone through the whole comment section, and the golden girl's fandom seems really butthurt. Its kind of weird, especially since the author is already okay with it. He already gave a disclaimer, and he didn't say anything really. Honestly, if he really DID give criticism as a seasoned reader, it would have been so much helpful for all the writers, but all of you wouldn't know that since you're blinded by the perfection that seems the book to you. One chapter is enough to decide if you want to let a book consume the time. Even if it gets better, what's the point if you have to torture yourself through cringe for the first chapters? The author said she has the better version, so kudos to her. But don't go around being so OH MY GOD HOW DARE HE SAY THAT? when he didn't even say anything that much
Yeah, I saw a lot of those too
Amber: I will my eyes to sparkle.
James: Can you do that?
me: I've seen enough Stargate to know where this is going.
Ok so let me put this out here. I'm a fan of your videos, I watch them regularly, but let me write something in my defence. I'm the author of Two Gangs and a Golden Girl and I'm actually a decent writer considering that English is not my home language. Unfortunately, the works that I'm proud of never got any views. The thing about Wattpad is that all the cliche books get views. The good ones don't. So, with that in mind, I wrote Two Gangs and a Golden Girl. The first few chapters are written like that on purpose. I hate it to be honest. But if you read on, actually get closer to the end, you realize that it's nothing like it appears to be. The edited version of my book which is on other sites is much better as well. None of that cliche shit that I hated to write. I'm also known as Satan amongst my readers because I like killing characters and doing so abundantly. Amber seems perfect because it's meant to be like that until you realize she isn't. She makes human mistakes and she paints, not because she's quirky, but because I do. I really love painting - currently busy painting a giant map of my fantasy world in my book (A Godly Game) and I use your videos for tips and stuff for my writing. When my main character is forced to deal with death, she does turn dark and you see her trying to juggle being a kind painter and being in the middle of violence. The gold thing is used metaphorically. She's gold when she's good and silver when she's darker. I'm not angry at the comments, because I have much worse things in my head. I'm so ashamed of telling people about that book, even though it does a lot better than my other books. Honestly, though, I aspire to be a writer and I do put more time into the edited version where I don't have to be cliche to get views. My rereaders can defend me in that department and tell you that the book really isn't what it looks like. My main character doesn't fall for one of the two gang leaders and instead I work on friendship and teamwork and real pain and death. I laughed at most of the comments and how you read it. I'm still subscribed but kinda amused at the chances of you reading my book while I've been following you for a while.
Edit: I'd like to add that I enjoy writing the action more than the romance. But I have a target audience so... It's not much of a choice. My racing scenes, fighting scenes and brutal reality is something I much more enjoyable and unfortunately I have to get teenage girls to read my book so I can't get to the good stuff until I have them. So sorry you had to experience that.
I've seen much worse out there. However bad you think your work is, thousands of people read and enjoyed it, you made something that touched people and you should be proud of that. Don't let my subjective tastes discourage you.
@@JamesTullos On the contrary, you make me realize just how much more editing the book needs. You gave me a point of view that I didn't have. Even if it hurts, it's true and I'll still remain a loyal subscriber. Sorry for my TED talk :)
I honestly think your book is the best out there in wattpad
No shame! I haven't read your book more. It was pretty well written actually, though it's not genre I would enjoy. It might need some revise, but you have clearly talent! Also it seems many people like your book, I saw multiple comments here defending it. Don't get discouraged and good luck on your writing journey!
@@karoliinalehtinen6701 thank you so much!!!
"as much as you cringe at it, I cringe far more"
That, sir, is the biggest writer-mood I have ever heard
"I'm already dead inside" LMAO
wow, turns out you reach a LOT of the female wattpad reader demographic, what are the chances lmao
He's sweet, funny, reads YA and isn't isn't a misogynistic twat. Makes sense.
I don't think that all of the wattpad demographic are just dummies that don't recognize shitty writing. I think it's more of a guilty pleasure. Most of the time, I dislike watpadd books because they lack substance and realistic storytelling and characters. But sometimes, when I'm feeling especially wishful for a dumb unrealistic romance with an asshole lead, I indulge myself.
@@farhana9025 yeah, that sounds about right. Sometimes it's great to revel in garbage 🗑
Well James is the perfect man, idk what to tell ya
I think he's one of those creators that equally reach both sex's audience. He reads books of a wide array of genres, his critiques are smart, & I think his nerdy awkward persona is inviting/cute to girls lol. At least, it's the case for me.
the thing at 19:33 with the five guys made me immediately think "Five Guys Burgers and Fries" which was just fucking hilarious to imagine a literal restaurant walking down the hallway
I'm so upset someone thinks demanding someone's hand in marriage in exchange for a favor is anarchism. How is that. I can't even. Like what.
I mean she could so easily have said "I'll free you, and then, I hope you'll join my federation of free association, and then, together we can work to dismantle all unjust power structures."
and that's a story i'd want to hear, too
In my opinion, two gangs and a golden girl is an amazing book.
wtf
Leninova wtf what???
@@fishbowl2327 How can you say that the gang book is good when it's clearly a bad joke
Leninova honey whos joking???
I remembered having to make book trailers weekly 4 years ago, and my teacher said it was a “cool new trend” so there’s a timeframe
Oh my god.... I'm on the list......
I apologize for everything and nothing.
@@JamesTullos It's fine lol. I'm just so embarrassed that you read the first chapter because I know how bad it sounds and you really have to read further to see how I get better and that it's not like it sounds at all. My edited version is on Inkitt and I promise you it's much better. I just wish you could've read something else by me or at least more than the first few purposefully cliche chapters of that book. Love the video though! Glad you didn't drag me too much. XD
@Maiz Hobz ironically I watch lots of his videos to get tips and stuff. He's really good in his videos.
@Maiz Hobz thank you!!!
@De Nile Thank you so much!!! I don't have the whole book on there yet, but after this video, I'll be working tirelessly to make sure I have my whole book edited 😅
I swear, most Wattpad stories are just psychological porn for girls.
good
@@heartache5742 no?
1 hour 14 minutes?
OH BOY
mr. jones is unironically my favorite character in that entire 4th story
My skin caught on fire 25 seconds into the prologue of the first story.
As a teenager, I can assure you we're not *this* stupid.
Most teenagers are dumber than this
are you sure about that.
(i dont mean this in a mean way or whatevs. teenagers tend to not realise how stupid they are simply bc brain hasnt developed that far. just have fun being a dumbass whilst ye can; it might heavily decrease the chance ye grow up to be a twat.)
Some of us are
The only people who don’t cringe at their past mistakes are people who haven’t done anything in their lives. People are stupid no matter what age they are.
@@LanieMae Agreed.
"Everyone in that school has gonorrhea now." LMAO
“At least it’s be hard to make fun of what I wear if it’s all black”
I fricken died so hard
Salvatore is the MOST wattpad name ever
I read one of your stories (Collony Pollux) and it was actually rather good! It has good atmosphere and scene descriptions, and there's nice character dynamic (and the characters have differing personalities that are well conveyed through narrative and dialogue). It's not perfect and feels like wish fulfillment at times, but you shouldn't be ashamed of it!
“They’re asshole.. they’re very judgmental..”
Me, a teen: heck yeah we are.
I've been wanting you to do something like this, as you're one of the few youtubers that talks about written works and Wattpad is a gold mine of content in my opinion. Imagine my surprise when you made it an hour long, that's fantastic.
There are so many heavy handed descriptions that it drives me insane. I SAID WHILE WEARING MY BROWN FRAYED SLIP ON MOCCASINS, MY SILK RED AND BLUE PAJAMA PANTS, AND MY WHITE, TATTERED AND OLD WIFE-BEATER THAT HASN'T SEEN THE MORNING SUN IN THREE YEARS. I ALSO FOR SOME REASON HAVE PERFECT WAVY BUT CURLY BUT STRAIGHT HAIR, AND MY EYES ARE CALLED HELEN BECAUSE THEY HAVE STARTED WARS SEVERAL TIMES WHEN I FELT PLAYFUL.
Just exhausting. Also I disagree that these writers are all teenagers and thus immune to criticism. There are plenty of early to late 20's writers, and even if they genuinely are teenagers that doesn't excuse how trope-y they are. A writer can't improve if they forever think they are perfection. Most writers learn what is and is not good writing, but these successful Wattpad stories generate thousands of praise comments, how are these kids going to learn then? Critique is what might push them to growth, and even if it doesn't for them specifically, it might motivate others watching. You're doing necessary work here.
Agree. As long as the critique is courteously delivered then it is very welcome. It is one major tool that can help a writer in honing their craft.
@@daughterofathena6104 I wish everyone thought the same as you. Wattpad writers especially get aggressive when confronted with criticism. Even totally valid yet respectful critique is met with "Well I haven't revised this and lol this is wattpad calm down" which is the exact opposite mindset you should have when met with dissection of your work. It's sad.
@@RyanKaufman
It’s because a large portion of writers on Wattpad are young kids & teenagers who are naturally adverse to criticism, lol
It’s not a great mindset, but people tend to grow out of it as they get older
As a Muslim girl who read a bunch of Muslim love stories when I was a teen and still read a few as a young adult, the reason why there are so many of them is that Muslim teen girls and young adult ladies crush on white guys and most of them never confess their crushes because it's frowned upon in the community, and this personally happened to me, and so most girls who read and write that stuff do it to get a happy ever after in spite of cultural difference.
Good on you for putting old work out there, James. You're a braver man than me.
Wattpad is now churning put their own novels next year -
Definitely high quality prose right there
This makes me feel confident about my Wattpad fanfiction
59:05 There's actually a manga like that, where a kid has to teach a class of high school students, and the kid is (surprise surprise) a wizard
Negima?
I know this was a year ago but sauce pls?
@@annoyingann negima
The slender woman one predicted lady dimitrescu
I'm just here to see the fanboys scramble to save author senpai's ego.
Oh boy, this gonna be great
24:29 Oh no! It's Enoby from My Immortal!
sadly the bad stories take over wattpad making it harder and harder to find the good ones.
Tell me about it -_-
I personally love Two gangs and a golden girl, but I wouldn't say it was one of the worst. Yes it has its bad moments, as does other books, but it gets better.
Who else knew female creepypasta x male readers would be on here
Bro the comments on Wattpad are just the peak of human performance.
Regarding the muslim fiction, if I had to make a wild guess... I would say it's the same reason there are so many LGBT+ fics.
It's a group of people that, in the current context of rampant islamophobia, often get ostracised by their peers, so to cope with that situation they escape into fiction.
Bingo
As far as fiction involving Muslims being popular on Wattpad - Smart Podcast, Trashy Books did a thing on it a few years ago. Basically, it boils down to the fact that there was pent-up demand among Muslim girls for YA books that featured characters like them, and since many of them were already on Wattpad for RPFs, that kind of fiction was a logical next step - and it kind of developed from there.
I’m so happy that the number one thing I learned about this video is that I have the same average cut size as a creepy pasta character (can’t wait to throw that info out as a conversation starter)
you're such a normal person. this is a compliment
F = triple D indeed, impressed you knew
The chart I found says DDD = E
@@TuesdaysArt did you really google that??
@@pipsqeak7104 Yes, yes I did.
@@TuesdaysArt that chart is lying. DD is an E
@@TuesdaysArt no, its D, DD=E, DDD=F, then G. The multiple Ds are american sizing while euro goes a b c d e f g directly
The first book has me dying of laughter! That description is flipping priceless.
10:14 I love how his mood changes so fast
You know, I find it silly how people make fun of writers on wattpad. I don't want to know what GRRMartin's or Brandon Sanderson's writing was like when they were teenagers, but I am pretty sure it was also bad and full of cliches. I work with children and often they have to write short stories and fantasy stories and most of the stories are very cliche: super handsome, good hero (mostly a self-insert) does something very awsome. Most writers start out writing Mary Sues and badly-cliched stuff, but that only helps them to mature and maybe one day, from all these hundreds of badly written stories, will emerge another GRRMartin, Brandon Sanderson and Tolkien. Most good writers started out their career in their twenties, thirties and fourties. To grow as a writer takes sometimes years and fanfiction and wattpad are ways for them to grow. Of course some of these stories are cringe-worthy as fuck, but for these kids it is a way to grow in confidence. Imagine writing something as a super edgy fifteen year old and how much confidence it can give you to try yourself on a real book. It might be worth it in the end.
Lara Fuchs I feel the empathy in this.
O god I'm having flash backs to my old attempts at writing... I'm glad stuff like wattpad want around when I was a teenager.
Started a WoW fanfiction with my main writing inspiration being the Immortals After Dark series.... Got about a page in before masterbation entered the narrative 😓
All I have to say is that as someone who has read a ton of Wattpad books, you gain an immunity. It's not a perfect immunity but it's good enough so some of the ones on the Dark Side of Wattpad don't haunt you as much.
Somebody needs to make a video about reading wattpad/fanfics but then they actually just start reading the most popular books of our generation and wonder why these are all so good. "Szeth Son Son Vallano, truthless of Shinovar, wore white on the day he was to kill a king"
So that Terra lady was making plans to MARRY a CHILD? Ewwwwwwwwww wtf!
These stories make me feel bad for being an 18 year old virgin
And a B cup
@@draketanner4549 Thanks ;')
@@draketanner4549 About what?
Hold on to your virginity as long as you can pls
@butch-to-subhuman that sounds like you need more self control lol
One of my favourite activities when I'm bored is to read my old books on Wattpad. There's so many small things in the writing style and how I wrote dialogue that are so typical for Wattpad and I love laughing at it.
... I actually thought Triple D meant that she had three boobs. What, it's creepypasta, they are allowed to have additional body parts.
there's something like. endearingly clunky about the senior beach trip one.
The word “mask” has a new meaning and is more common now in the future
Gonorrhea? More like Conorhea!
Honestly I have somehow expected something far worse, because as ashamed as I am to confess this I have read soo much worse. Kind of like the Beachtrip story but with tons of formatting and spelling mistakes.
"That's a read-and-find-out situation" kills me
Just a casual bit of eugenics in the second story
That first one about Fuckboys is honestly hilarious
i’m actually so sad my books in this. the concept was for fun, and i stopped writing it but thanks for saying my writing wasn’t bad @ 12:30 ... think becoming an author on the side is still a good idea for me? lmfao
Don't take it too hard, your work was really more weird than bad. If you want bad, check out my old stuff, it's awful. You put yourself out there and you put the work into writing, that's more than most people ever do and you should be proud.
@@JamesTullos also you improve your writing as you do it more. No one's perfect in the beginning.
hey I actually liked your book lol 😳
36:32 "... breaks the fourth-wall." Since the reader is one of the characters, where is the fourth-wall?
That second story... I'm going to have nightmares tonight.
I was originally gonna try out Two Gangs and a Golden Girl but seeing all the mad fans in the comments turned me off from it
Two Gangs and a Golden Girl is an amazing book,in my opinion, I don't really think it should be called 'awful' ,but people have different opinions,so...
He's a guy and he read the first chapter. I can see how he would think so 😂
to be fair, he did only read the beginning part.
Like I know wattpad porn is made to also fulfill the writer but that creepypasta writer DEFINITELY has a type
"Melody's on the short bus!"
I was really hoping you'd make that joke. Very glad rn that I subscribed.