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My sister is really, really on the far left. So like she keeps asking me why I support gun rights, and eventually she said "NO ONE should have more then 2 GUNS and they should only be PISTOLS!!!" so the first thing I did is turn on TH-cam for the TV, then I said "Brandon Herrera", then I clicked on one of your videos and let her just stare at your gun collection in the background.
LMFAOAIROTG
I don't understand why out of anyone the FAR LEFT is against gun rights. Like those people don't like the U.S. gov and police but want to trust they won't abuse their power when unchecked and want to put complete faith in the police alone to keep them safe? The far left literally live in a fucking fantasy world.
Anyone can have as much guns as they please. Guns not only keep you safe but they also are fun to shoot
YOU MADLAD YOU GOT MY RESPECT BRO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA 😂🤣🤣😂🤣
Here the real question,do you think your message got though to her?
"They only had muskets back then!"
I own a musket for home defense since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my home, "What the Devil?!?" as I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky Rifle, blow a golf ball sized hole on the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, misses him entirely because it's smooth bored and nails the neighbor's dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted atop the stairs, loaded with Grape Shot. "Tally Ho, Lads!" Shred 2 men in the blast, the explosion and extra shrapnel sets off car alarms. Affix my bayonete to my rifle and charge the last, now terrified, rapscallion, who proceeds to bleed out while I wait on Police to arrive because triangular bayonete woulds are impossible to stich up.
Y'know, just as the Founding Fathers intended.
Also now that I think of it, a lot of things have been trying to take guns away, but that only creates more and more problems for us law abiding citizens.
Has anyone tried the reverse yet?
You forgot to take down their getaway driver by broadsiding them with your cannon-equipped station wagon.
c0baltl1ghtn1ng, I ain't never gonna break in, come visit, or even drive by yer house !!!
Beautiful 🙌
Good Ole Russianbadger quote classic meme~👌
I think the scariest thing which I just realized is that when the constitution was written, the first 10 amendments were considered obvious by half the colonies and were only added because the other half of the colonies were worried about a powerful centralized government. Big thanks to the anti-federalists for insisting on these being included. We’d be truly sol without you!
The 2nd was of particular debate in this regard. Several states absolutely refused to sign on specifically unless gun rights were codified.
Except for some of the attitudes displayed such as antifederalist no 9 montezuma. Because us commoners arent anywhere nearly as intelligent as the rich. Arrogance was brought up in the bible and has been and is a recurring theme throughout history. Hence history repeating itself. Again
They were American so by nature they were stupid but that was a good move even morons have their moments sometimes
@@trailblazer632 the problem is that codified law centralizes the state even more so it’s a double edged sword
@@Saber23 it's not a law regulating the people though but the government. Which is why in this case your point is wrong.
The suicide thing was interesting... That's definitely how you help out someone who's feeling suicidal. take away something they enjoy and treat them like a criminal.... what could go wrong?
Yep, my gf has depression. She takes pills to help out, but one main thing is that I give her space to be as functional and normal as she can be and help her out when needed and make sure she's happy. She lives in a house with firearms and has not once tried to use it to inflict harm on herself. A good community will help most people with mental illness more than these types of laws will.
Worse betray the trust of someone who reached out for help when they were struggling.
@@nickhufflepuff9604 The point is that what if a person gets treatment and is not allowed to get their razors, pills, and shoe laces back, or to buy them anymore, unless they go to court and pay the endless fees and legal costs to get them back? Everyone says depression is treatable and temporary, buy lawmakers seem to disagree. It's not fair.
my uncle was suicidal. his wife insisted the daughter takes his rifle away so he wouldnt kill himself. he lost the only hobby. 2 weeks later they found him hung in the barn. to this day i am angry.
@owenj443now that’s actually reasonable
Dude dropped out of law school and still has a better knowledge of constitutional law and gun laws than most lawyers and politicians.
No they all know the laws how they follow and use them differs
The Problem is, most average people have no knowledge of the law and let themselves be fooled by "professionales" .
I want you to read what you just typed but REALLY slow; is it the guy who dropped out of law school who's right, or 'most lawyers and politicians?'
@@trey3172 the dude who dropped out
@@trey3172 my guess would be the guys who dropped out and needs to know his exact limits of this topics laws for the shit he does professional and recreational, way in favor over dudes who care about this on the sideline of many other law-related topics
Red flag laws in Florida literally took my rights over night without letting me know and with no defending myself, I was baker acted three years ago during the worst night of my life, checked myself in to be safe was out the next day, I haven’t talked to anyone sense but the doctor I talked to used the worst day of my life to judge my mental capacity and now I literally have to go to court to get my rights back, I work as a bouncer/security i get death threats all the time and just last month was assaulted on my way home by four people with rocks and pool balls, I spent the day in the ER, I was legislated into being a victim, I had firearms, but the law took them away from me and now I have to live in fear until I get them back.
Good luck with that man I hope you're able to get your rights back. That's bullshit that you're gonna have to go through all the trouble of hiring a lawyer and shit just to get your rights back. You're a better man than me because I'd definitely wouldn't be doing things the right way if I was in your place.
Yeah bro, these laws exist exactly for crazy fucks like you, so on the next "worst night of your life" you can't fucking kill people.
The "worst day of your life" I'm sure consisted of things no normal responsible gun owner (or regular old guy) would do lol
@@boinkmcbingo8890 thank you, luckily my wife is still legally able to own so my home is safe.but being able to have my firearms back literally would have saved me two black eyes a broken rib and a bunch of bruises. Luckily tho I spoke to a lawyer and he thinks it shouldn’t be an issue to get it taken care of it’ll just take a little time and of course money , which like you said is such bullshit😕
Mate, I wish you the best. We’re all praying for ya.
Wanna know what's funny? The same assholes that assault people for doing their job are probably the same morons who say shit like "LMAO you got gun wat's going with your dick?". Theese assholes fucking boil my blood i swear.
The fact that they can access juvenile records is what gets to me. Im 19, and doing just fine mentally. Actually in a pretty good place with my life. But one of the things that disqualifies you from purchasing a firearm (my main interest and hobby since i was 3) is being involuntarily committed to any mental institution; which my mom did to me when i was 15 for the insurance money. Worst week of my life, and now it could jeopardize the thing I ironically, stayed alive for. Ive always struggled with depression, and one of the things that kept me going was the hope of finally being able to enjoy the firearms i grew up watching and researching from a distance. Now the thing that has literally kept me alive on multiple occasions, is in jeopardy thanks to the very thing they helped prevent. What a time to be alive.
Similar situation but smaller scale, car guy growing up at a time where gas cars will be outlawed and pushed to regulated EVs paid for by nothing other than a monthly subscription and tens of thousands of dollars to repair, and you can't even repair them yourself
No. Please dont tell me that its straight up a really similiar situation for me and the mental instituiotion thing can jeopordise my ability to every get guns?
@@mudy7471private sale still exists, however thats legally up to you. It onlyhas to be an involuntary comittment
just buy it anyways, we arent snitches. fuck those rules
Dude they will never find that unless your dumb enough to tell them.
Can confirm as a Rhode Islander. Parents divorced first thing mom did was while serving the papers told local PD my dad had firearms and she was “afraid” ( no prior reason to be) thankfully a little after a year we were able to retrieve our property
Brandon: "Hey Vsauce, Brandon here."
Also Brandon: "The number 1 growing crime today is identity theft."
Parkour!
He said Bsauce
@@Gaius_Cassius 🅱️sauce
B - sauce. B = is for brandon
(he's the guy in the video, who is talking)
Well, looking at the whole picture ...
It tends to become a culture .
I didn't even know it was considered as a crime ...
Nb:
Isn't it the way the job gets done that tends to be an issue ?
Can't thoses exact same learn to defuse the point, give citizens a chance to "self defense" in facing "accusations servants" n victims protectors "suspensive" applications before even try to knock on doors ...
I mean can't they reach thoses known owners by any other means but "living forms" and put less life in danger acting so ...
And, no ... I don't think bots n drone stand a way ...
Don't they have paper, pen, mail, phone ???
Well, then you'll explain me why in the world you choose an eagle to stamp the dolls nd why natives are some aparts citizens !
Consent is consent .
Too easy to unleash the dog by a call ...
Too easy to grime up "servants" in dogs too ...
And it's too easy to mean "compensation" when they just sell it as they are !!!
Just plain too easy .
Dare, care, ride safe, clean, have fun ...
From France with !
I was a victim of abuse, and then my abuser accused me of abusing her. She tried her best to make my life hell and I’m 100% certain she would’ve done this if possible at the time where we lived.
Thats fucked
I've been there, dude. Ended up in hospital, weighing about 50kg from all the stress. Laws like this empower abusers.
Also, hope you're in a better place now, man.
thats horrible i hope that you can be happy with yourself and not be sad
she still might make sure she has no idea where you live.
Yeah, it happened to me in Michigan. I got into a car accident and apparently juggled the noodles in my head for a few days.
The Officer took me to the hospital for a blood draw for drugs. When that came up negative, she wrote up that I was pissed and saying "threatening" things. Not at anyone in particular, just "threatening to the planet"
Nevermind that I was pissed that I ran my truck into a shallow river.
Anyway, I end up transferred to phych hospital and before a Judge who was the ONLY person in this whole ordeal who meantioned anything about guns. He, off the cuff, said "What if he buys a Machine Gun?" Whaa?
So now I cannot buy or own a gun based on an officer's report of a subjective interpretation of something, a traumatized and angry person said.
Then a newspaper suggested an "unnamed driver" did it on purpose while I was in the Hospital. They phych hospital Doctor through it down on the table in front of me. Whaa?
And the same day that my rights were taken away after an elected judge literally declared me a danger to society I was released.
If they cannot take away rights legally, they will do it one by one. I was told, by an attorney, that everyone in that situation gets the same result routinely.
Oddly, it is the opposite of someone tries to get disability for mental health reasons. In that case they routinely reject a mental disorder.
I should have said I wanted disability Insurance. Then they would have said nothing was wrong with me.
It was never about protection, it was about an angry officer who could not get me for DUI and an Anti-Gun District elected Judge in an Anti-Gun District.😮
I've had an ongoing fight with depression for years now, and I'd be pissied if someone dared to use that against me to confiscate my guns. Part of depression is feeling hopeless and out of control of your life. What better way to make that worse than to have police enter your home illegally and take hundreds/thousands of dollars worth of your stuff and then charge you money to hold onto them (because getting them back won't be free)
Someone who is suicidal or struggles with suicide ideation comes out for help with said issue, can now be seen as the suicide.
If they didn't have the strength to pull the trigger on themselves, the cops can do it for them via RFL. Not to mention it would make their name and legacy go around and they will be known by a lot of people in this community.
I know this looks bad, but these laws actually make that a reality.
It's just like that time when when you could say, "my neighbor is a witch" and then she gets burned alive without question
Exactly!
Yup, a law without due process. Almost like red flag laws should be illegal
More weight!
@@kemsmith or does she float or sink? Wood or a duck
Thank you monty python.
They absolutely questioned her first. Usually using torture until she named some other witches.
I support the "oh but they only had muskets" for a pretty neat reason:
Back in the day; Muskets were standard military equipment; I support being able to own military equipment.
Our generations can't afford personal battleships; so co-owned ones will have to do.
Time-share tanks....I like the way you think.
I'm thinking we could get a fly sharing operation for an F-22 Raptor or maybe a F-35?
@@tommyblackwell3760 well tanks are multi-crew so I don't see why you and your buddies can't co-own one.
The "Church" of Scientology owns a few warships.
@@Bacteriophagebs Fortunately they're all decommissioned and disarmed ones, or so it seems.
I’ve been on the fence about red flag laws but this video has been the push I needed to change my mind. The concise explanation and bringing up the possible result of people fearing to come out about depression among other bad results has made me opposed to red flag laws.
You shouldn’t believe the govt in the first place.
It’s always trying to take away your guns, it would slowly impose many restitutions that may seem to be “okay”. Ultimately you have nothing.
I mean I agree but I also feel like the simple reality that this is eroding necessary freedoms for the sake of a few people's well being is important. No-one wants people to commit crimes with guns, just like no-one wants people to shoot themselves, but those actions are ultimately faults of the individual. Some people also shout slurs, spread conspiracies, etc., and if we were to apply the principle of "some people use this freedom wrong so we must eliminate that freedom in the first place" equally, not only would THOSE people not have freedom of speech (already a recipe for disaster long term might I add) but NO-ONE would have freedom of speech.
It's a fundamentally pathos driven argument that tries to put the crux of the discussion on the relative handful of people mentally unstable enough to do wrong and the tragedy that comes with. A few people doing tragic things is not justification for taking away necessary fundamental rights. Not only are you free to do whatever you god damn please until such time as your actions start to encroach on the universal rights of others*, without any need to justify those actions, but an armed populous is a populous that can't be oppressed.
I've seen a few people saying "yeah like what if we took away all of the AR-15s from americans and sent them to ukraine where they actually need them?" to which I say, you know what would be EVEN BETTER than trying to ship thousands of rifles thousands of miles into an active warzone with ammunition in an attempt to arm thousands and thousands of untrained civilians who may never have even held a firearm before? If those citizens already owned guns, ammo, and had already been to a shooting range several times before in their lives with a firm understanding of firearm safety, good shooting habits, and how to fix common issues with their weaponry. People doing tragic things is terrible, but an armed populous is a necessity because you simply can't live life reactively, there are some problems that you need to get ahead of, or die trying to catch up to. Once you start getting rabies symptoms, you're already dead, and once you start getting symptoms of tyranny, the treatments are already all gone.
* "universal" here isn't a buzz word, I'm referring to rights that EVERYONE must respect, things that you are entitled to across the board, not just by public offices and whatnot. For instance, twitter is a private company, so however shitty they may be, they are not, nor should they be, obligated to uphold your 1st amendment right to freedom of expression. By contrast, if the CEO of twitter came up and started beating the shit out of you, that's still illegal. Controversially, this also means that, if you aren't already entitled to a job, and you don't get the job in question for ANY reason, no matter how idiotic, bigoted, etc. it doesn't matter, the person hiring is within their rights to hire you or fire you for whatever reason they see fit. Does this mean some people will be genuine racist dick heads? Yes but, again, a few people making the wrong choices with their rights, does not nullify those rights.
>I was on the fence about someone taking someone else's rights with mere rumors
I get that you're grifting for approval, but that still sounds really bad.
@@robonator2945 >muh racism
Wow, you sure dropped the ball on that topic. If people are free, then obviously they can have racial preferences.
@@HateBear-real 1 : preference isn't racism
2 : yes? Do you have a point you'd like to make there orrr? People have a right to be alchoholic, people have a right to be smokers, people have a right to be general dick nozzles, and yes, people have a right to be racist. You seem to think there is some contradiction here; there isn't.
I live in indiana and the day the red flag laws passed my work had a co worker swatted and guns drawn on him and his kids for saying “if they fired him over something petty he’d sue and take over the place” they did this with no proof of any malicious internet or and proof at all, just on someone’s word.
• 2nd Amendment - right of the people to bear arms.
• 4th Amendment - protection from unwarranted search and seizure.
• 5th Amendment - shall not be deprived of property without due process or just compensation (federally).
• 6th Amendment - right to confront your accuser.
• 14th Amendment - shall not be deprived of property without due process or just compensation (state).
Red Flag Laws are an abomination to our nation and our constitution. They are far from a "slippery slope", they're a jump off a cliff.
The mentally ill leftists don't see it that way. "Guns bad" above all else. Your rights mean nothing to them.
Since these are civil proceedings and not criminal, the state won't provide an attorney either if you can't afford one. And attorneys are $$$$$$.
@@rabidsbr It’s such BS that they are civil proceedings and not criminal proceedings as well. What am I gunna do, shoot someone with my gun in a perfectly civil, gentlemanly manner?
@@rabidsbr Which I can assure you is not accidental. They are doing everything they can to create a system seemingly purpose-built to be abused. This looks like nothing more than a method to strip people of their rights without requiring any pesky amendments or legislation.
@@oblivionsa7973 Oh it's not only 100% intentional, it is worded in such a way to give the impression that they are safeguarding due process. The exact wording of the Federal law they just passed explicitly says it requires "the right to be represented by counsel at no expense... TO THE GOVERNMENT."
They make it sound like it's some sort of thing to celebrate. Representation "at no expense."
Jersey's red flag law hadn't been on the books for a couple months before a business owner (chiropractor to be specific) filed a red flag complaint against someone who left a bad review online.
He didn't threaten to blow up the business, or commit any violent act with a firearm... He literally just said the guy was bad at his job.... and for that, he wasn't able to exercise a constitutionally protected right.
wow so we cant even write a review on a business now lol this country is worse than communist china or even almost russia at this point
You can’t do that in NJ anyways
"Kimmel & Biden" (Interview parody)
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"your rights end where my feelings begin" welcome to Xidens America.
Why did that get past any judge?
I volunteered at the local firehouse where the gentleman in Maryland got shot and killed. That man was also my best friend's neighbor. When it happened (and heavily) it was under reported that said police officer panicked and wasn't properly trained. Shortly after the local PD that was involved released an internal document to all officers telling them that if they oppose red flag laws to resign or retire; I know personally 3 great officers trained in de-escalation that resigned due to it. Take that for what it is
Know an American truck driver. Wife falsely accused him. Took his kids, made him into an alimony slave, and now he can't own any firearm, because he's technically a felon.
That stuff already happens.
8:36 - My personal story. Not guns but airsoft. I was at college and joined a bunch of buddies for airsoft. Someone didn't like it, cue us all getting dragged before campus police. I had to go before the dean of students, who threatened to throw me out of student housing, unless I submitted to some extreme capitulations. Being 19, scared, and being thousands of dollars into the semester already, I capitulated. I had to agree to a mental health screening, to see a therapist over breaks, and be subject to routine room searches by campus police plus also surprise inspections. Anyway, the school got sued hard over this. My mental screening revealed I was more boring than boiled potatoes, and meeting a therapist back home got me sent away after 20 minutes because they called it a waste of time. The dean ended up fired. This was all over a toy that launches little plastic balls that bounce off your skin. It wasn't even against any rules, as they didn't mention airsofts, and they all had the orange tip.
i would have sued and just paid off my college debt
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This is why college exists. To find out you are a dumbass so you pay to get smarter. Congrats on your graduation from summer camp.
@@Phlyinhigh We got those records sealed (destroyed?) and a not small payout each. Serves em right.
@@Mortablunt That is incredibly satisfying to hear. Good one o7
So I had a close friend a few years back who ran into some mental health issues. I, fortunately, live in one of the best states in this country for true gun rights; Idaho. Well he was worried that his family would try to sell his firearms behind his back. I caught the hints, and I advised him that I have a very safe location that I could store his firearms at that wouldn't allow his family to relinquish his collection. Nevertheless, about 3 months go by and a family member asked me if I knew where his guns went... my answer "No, but if I did I wouldn't tell you." Took him about 10 months to get his head on straight, but his firearms were waiting for him. I'd do the same for anyone going through a similar situation... whether I know them or not. I will even help them fight whoever is trying to take them away, by whatever verbal or written means necessary.
Good man, ditto
I've never met you, but I'd like to buy you a (root) beer. 😎🍻😆
^ what Phoenix said
I'm just glad he didn't have his firearms in those 3 months where he tried to get his head straight.... And I don't really see the difference in you or the state confiscating them from him until his shrink deemed him stable again.... but thats prolly because I am not an american choosing my guns over the safety of general society.
@@JokerInk-CustomBuilds you dont see the difference between police knocking on your door to take your property, or you yourself handing it to a friend for safekeeping?
Well said. When I had depression-like sypmtoms I didn't seek help knowing that ANY record of psychiatric diseases in my country makes gun permit amost impossible to get
me too, for the exact reason.
Happened to me in Maryland, on a separation. She used it to have the Calvert County Sheriff’s office attack me steal my property, which I never got back because I won’t fill out the form. Not a felon. The took my break barrel pellet gun.
Was a made up story on her part as well
Yeah, red flag laws are great, but have you ever taken your depressed buddy out to the range and just chilled out, plinked some targets, and chatted for a couple hours?
Because in my experience, being a good friend is way better than demoting them to "mentally unstable freak" and stealing their guns.
I wish I could heart react this, because I've been the depressed buddy before, and you're absolutely right. Having good friends or family who care is so much better.
@@jeredhersh789 I love how stuff like this is being pointed out, because it should be
The depressed need to be cared for, not left to have their thoughts and considerations worsen because they’re paranoid of their constitutional rights being unjustly taken from them therefore they keep their suffering to themselves
A lot of gun owners are both interested and passionate about said guns, and the threat of stealing something that a depressed person cares about while they get looked down on as “insane” or “unstable” is one of the worst things that can be done to improve what they’re going through, simply reaching out and being there for your loved ones will almost always be so much better
I've been the buddy it helps more than you'll ever know
Amen to this.
imagine red flagging everyone "damaged" that has fought overseas and stripping them of the only thing they have left
My ex tried to (and almost succeeded in) "red-flagging" me after I dumped her...
It was AWESOME waking up from a nap to SWAT-bois outside my house with bullhorns and my street blocked off 💯🙄
I got put in handcuffs "for my own safety" after 7 guys beaded me with AR's and almost shot my dog, and then got involuntarily transported to a psych facility. It took SIXTEEN F****ING HOURS BEFORE THEY RELEASED ME TO MY COMMAND, WITH *ZERO* INDICATION THAT I WAS SUICIDAL, EXCEPT THE WORD OF A VINDICTIVE EX.
The *ONLY* reason the cops didn't get my guns was because they couldn't easily gain access to them, were being recorded, and didn't have the order from a judge signed yet when they Baker-Acted me, so I managed to get someone from my command to my house and transport all of them.
It was a MONTH'S WORTH of complete and utter BS.
seems like almost all red flag stories are from crazy ex girlfriends so all you have to do is avoid girls and you will be good
time to return the favor, red flags for everybody
Close family friend of mine got targeted by a red flag, and when he finally was supposed to get his guns back they basically told him that tye day they confiscated the firearms they were afraid he planted an explosive amongst his collection so they blew them up in a field. Story told to me by my grandfather, who had contributed a few guns to said family friends gun collection.
In other words they shared them out amongst themselves & sold them off or kept them.
No more negotiating or compromising with gun controllers. They argue in bad faith. While we are expected to compromise and give up more rights, their only compromise is not grabbing the whole cake this time.
Hey Brandon fun fact
With payday 2's most recent DLC it's a gun smuggling ranch in Texas
The gun workshops you can make rifles as loot at have books named
"Kalash's for dummies" signed by one "H. Berrara" that sounds awfully familiar
"Guys,the Tulammo,go get it"
LOL! Funny thing was I literally just bought payday 2 with steam summer sale, now im seeing this lol
lmao
The AK50 would kick ass in Payday 2
Hrandon Berrera
When I ended a relationship back in 82, my ex went out of her way to disrupt my life for over a couple more years even recruiting 2 of her female friends as participants. If Red flag laws existed then, I've no doubt she'd have used them as a revenge weapon against me.
Nice
That's the idea behind these laws. They want to disarm you or in some cases get you killed by the cops. This is why it's time to circle the wagons and protect one another from this dangerous situation.
I know that situation all too well - I feel your pain.
I have a mother who has been trying to get back at me for being born. Haven't talked to her in 10 years but to this day she's still trying her best to get me swatted. Court wouldn't grant me a protection order bc "she's my mother, we should try and work things out." Luckily we haven't passed rf laws here in NE... Yet. I am counting on her to try them out against me as soon as they are available here. F*ck red flag laws
Be strong brother, trifling is as trifling does and you're better off dealing with that bs for standing your ground than allowing someone into your life that could be doing that to you now. Obviously I don't know what all happened but it sounds like you made the right call lol
I was going through a rough time in 2018 and attempted suicide but luckily enough I had a light primer strike on my budget 9mm. I realized that wasn’t the answer and got help from my family and friends. I’m glad I didn’t attempt using another method. Opening up is the first step and fear of losing your property, job, clearance (if applicable) will only make things worse. Well said Brandon.
That was like devine intervention almost.
im sure you realize how incredibly lucky that is dude. i hope you're doing okay. but man, people buy budget guns cuz they work, MOST of the time. damn dude.
@@jakesynx I’m happy to have not been able to afford a quality weapon then and learned one of my greatest lessons then.
That point with Sucide is an interesting one. I’m not from America, I am from Germany and we have strict laws against Gun Control and even getting one. I’m a pro Gun Person and I’m a part of the community wo are against the laws in this state there are now. I’m in a so called “Schützenverein” (like a constitution for Gun lovers and where shooting every year for the King ((the one wo shoots the best))) Many people don’t agree with our love to our Hobby and weapons. We hardly argue about the laws with like everyone else in our country. But when it comes to suecide we saying “if you are in the position where there is no way left ore right to choose and you want to end your life… you’re choosing the easiest way. And if there is an weapon in your house this is the easiest way) sadly
@@phillipAffentaeter Hast Recht Mein Freund. Sorry that’s about the extent of my German. It’s been almost 20 years since my high school German classes.
Work in gun store and one of our regulars is going through this shit. Clean background nicest guy out there. Going through a divorce and wife (soon to be ex wife) pulled some pure pettiness. Luckily he found out ahead of time she did it and quickly gave/transferred all his firearms to his brother before they got taken away
Hehe big brain move.
It is valid?
@@matiasfpm it be just like he sold them to his brother. They aren’t in his name anymore so gun grabbers aka the police or other alphabet boys can’t come and take them if he doesn’t own them
It’s good for people to know exactly what red flag laws are and why they are unconstitutional.
What sad is Brandon just now getting around to informing his viewer base. They've been implemented by blue states for years now.
i agree that red flag laws can be used maliciously but imo it's worth it if the result is less people doing self harm. and if you do a study case you will see that the majority of use cases had saved lives while none have took lives when done to the wrong people.
@@Smooth_Operator I agree my dad was in a mental ward after my parents devoiced, and had a loaded 357 with a full box of amo in his truck. He told the dr he was having thoughts of self harm and harming my mother and me. I had to get State Police to remove the gun and amo from his truck and they held it for a year. It was for his safety and my mother and my safety..
@@Smooth_Operator red flag laws are unconstitutional .. scotus ruled 9-0 on that last year
@@Smooth_Operator "guilty till proven innocent your rights are forfeit".... ok glowie also you are wrong as their have already been shoot outs when illegal seizures were executed
I've said it many times and i'll say it again. As someone living in Europe (granted, Eastern Europe), i find US gun laws ridiculous and restrictive. Was it harder for me to get to own guns? Depending on which state you use as a reference, yes and no. I went through a shall-issue process and that was it.
But after that? I go to a store, present paper confirming i can own guns and leave the store 5 minutes later with brand new gun. No form filling, no further background checks, no wait periods, no dumb restrictions on what i can buy based on barrel length or other bs. No bullshit braces (i cringe whenever i see those to be honest), no wondering if i'm allowed to put vertical grip on my gun and most importantly: no butchering of historical firearms to make them legal semi-autos.
Granted, i also have to register those guns, but if you are thinking US government is not tracking who's going trough background checks and how often, you are deluded.
And red flag laws are just a cherry on the cake. Whoever is advocating for them should get a free, one-way ticket to Siberia.
What country???
“Whoever is advocating for them should get a free, one-way ticket to Siberia”
I agree with this statement,
GULAGS ARE BACK IN STYLE BOYS!
I read this entire thing heavily accented and I apologize for that. I appreciate the post content!
yes, good luck using the gun in a defensive situation though. You can own guns anywhere in the world.
Which Eastern European country you find less ridiculous and restrictive, than U.S., when it comes gun ownership rights? Here I can't buy the damn taser. I highly doubt that you can buy weapon in Eastern Europe, as easy as in U.S. Without all these barrel, fire rate whatever restrictions. It's possible to buy gun here, but still not as easy, as in some American states.
having the state come and take my stuff and stalk me because someone said something to a judge about me really makes me feel awesome and safe and totally not like self deleting
Being someone that tried to reach out for help in the military, they did exactly what these people think should happen for “unstable” people. I didn’t feel any better if anything I felt worse and a bigger piece of shit because everyone started looking at me different. I just needed someone to talk to and feel needed but I didn’t get any of that.
"Mental health" in the US just translates to "psycho." It's just a new type of oppression.
I effectively got kicked out of a technical school, because the instructor found out I take medication. They called the police on me and lied to their faces. The police didn't believe a word they said, so the best they could get was a no trespass order. Everyone else believed it, though. The world has only gotten worse since then.
Guilty until proven innocent was the exact thing most companies did when Amber Heard accused Johnny Depp of abuse.
Congrats 2million
It took Johnny 6 years. Wouldn't it be just lovely to lose your right to protect yourself that long. (probably longer)
Every self-absorbed terminally-online woman on the planet still believes her and is still trying to get him jailed.
"Listen and believe" only applies if you were born with a vagina, obviously.
In New York it is incredibly easy to hassle someone you don't like already. I'm not even talking about guns. Here's my story.
I was with a girl for 6 years. I knew she had mental problems, but love is blind blah blah blah, she was overly jealous, and I was tired of it, so we broke up. She seemed to take it pretty harsh and ended up blocking me on all social media. A few hours later a New York state trooper is knocking on my door, and I am in handcuffs for stalking her. I'm taken to the police station and read my rights; I am issued an order of protection that very night to where I can't go within 1,000 feet of her. Her police statement was that I was harassing her on social media, but she conveniently lost all proof when she blocked me, I was driving by her house slowly and stopping in front of her house, again, no video evidence or anything, and lastly that I was driving by her place of work, again, no proof. I was arrested and given an OP based off of accusations alone. I had to wait 6 MONTHS to get a chance in court with my lawyer. The problem was that even though there was no proof I did those things, there was also no proof that I DIDN'T do it either. A long battle for my innocence pursued for another 2 months as the court date kept being pushed back. My lawyer managed to get video footage from a business across the street from her workplace, it took a lot of reviewing footage, since she never gave a specific DATE even which I drove by, but my lawyer convinced the judge there was no proof and I finally got my life back to normal after 8 months of worrying I would run into her in public, or hell, she could just call the police at any time and tell them I violated the order of protection. I got my life back, but not justice. She got nothing for a false police report as far as I know. I wish I could sue her for it, but she forced me to spend a good portion of my savings on a lawyer to prove my innocence.
I know it has nothing to do with red flag laws, but my story shows just how corrupt some states already are, innocent until proven guilty is a thing of the past. If I owned any firearms at the time, they surely would have been confiscated.
That byotch needs ti dye.
Females can be really toxic and get away with it in most if not all states. Hope you found the right women after dealing with this craziness.
@@dschoenfeld9277 The "right women" in modern western society is: None. Not every single woman is a crazy indicative 304, but if you look at statistics, you're basically guaranteed to end up with one. The only winning move is to not play.
I sure hope you own firearms now!
I dated a girl who bruised herself up and threatened to call the police if I broke up with her. She ended up spending time in a psych ward and that helped me escape her.
So far in the state I'm currently in all they've accomplished is people making baseless claims against pew pew owners leads to them being unlawfully held, their property seized, their door kicked in at 3am, and them being unlawfully ended since the police are kicking their door in at 3am for no reason and they think they're being robbed
In Indiana, most police are reluctant to actually serve a red flag warrent, because they're afraid they'll be trying to dodge bullets when they knock on someone's door. They also generally know to always knock and clearly identify themselves, because they have lost court cases against people who shot officers during no-knock raids.
This is the main reason why it's so important to not let people know you own a gun, even family. A spouse is one thing, since it's not something you'd be able to easily hide from them (imagine the fight that would happen if they discovered you own a gun after years of successfully hiding it from them!) but otherwise, don't advertise it. Having 2A clothes and bumper stickers makes you a target for criminals, and letting even friends & family know you own a gun makes you a target for red flag laws
I got red flagged in Massachusetts.
Spent 18 months in jail and have a felony for (get this) yelling at my ex and having a lawfully owned Glock 43 in my cars trunk. Locked trunk. Unloaded. In a Glock box.
With a cable lock installed through the mag well and chamber. Came from a gun range in NH. Drive into MA. Had a verbal confrontation with her (no physical altercations). MA waited one year to press charges. Had to sell all of my ammo and firearms to afford a $10,000 lawyer. Lost a three day trial in MA. 18 months in jail for simple possession of a firearm in a safe condition.
My lawsuit is ready. I need help sending it to someone. It’s a big one. After Bruen, this can’t stand.
Forget the "temporarily" part. This is a way for a judge to initiate a potential life-or-death encounter by sending armed individuals to confiscate your property without any wrong-doing needing to be proved. SWATting is already bad enough, this is flipping the tables to guilty-until-you-can-afford-to-prove-yourself-innocent.
Nothing is more permanent than the temporary things of the government.
Basically it is legal SWATing.
It's a removal of due process and actions against your person and rights without representation
I imagine a gun owner being suddenly swarmed by a bunch of armed indivuduals without any prior warning or wrongdoing would only result in lives lost and no net gain for society
@@Heafalore but it is a gain for society, it's called natural selection. Let everybody kill the shit out of each other and the survivors will have a nice drink in the end. There are so many assholes and so few bullets.
My dad had his guns taken away after he divorced my former stepmom (who also thinks we live in a simulation btw) because she wouldn't let him see my brother and she didn't want to have to let him see my brother.
Because she didnt want to let my dad see his son, she delayed the inevitable and got my dad to lose his 2nd amendment rights.
Thank you very much, red flag laws.
At what time did he lose them and how? (House raid, court order, arrested while shopping?)
Do something instead of crying online
Kinda sounds like your dad tried to threaten your mom with a firearm, probably deserved that. Do it civil or get a lawyer
Personal experience since the red flag change:
I was denied the ability to purchase ammunition.
Bg: before the change my most recent pistol purchase ( cz75)
Resulted in neither an approval or a denial by the DoJ. They claimed some issue with my identification. (If that was the case why didn't they deny me) when this happened the DoJ has 30 days to come to a determination. If they don't than the dealer gets to give you you're gun (if they want).
NOW when a ammo dealer runs my information they see that my most recent purchase resulted in "undetermined". It's up to them if they want to sell me ammo at that point.
Luckily I caller the dealer I got my pistol from, and being as that they gave me the pistol they were willing to sell me ammo.
**summary**
Infringements are Infringements and that's wack as fuck.
Should be be reporting bots like this?
Wouldn't want to being unnecessary attention from yt this way.
As someone is struggles with depression for years if someone took my guns it would probably push me over the edge and loose it.
I'm a victim of FSA. My family tried getting me diagnosed mentally ill when I was younger, after years of abuse and refusing to teach me any life skills to keep me reliant on them, so I went along with it out of fear, but it didn't work how they wanted, and when they were shocked I could still legally buy guns as an adult (they weren't aware that having a diagnosis isn't an adjudication (which itself unconstitutional but I digress)), they lowered themselves to making up stories about me planning to do this-or-that to try to get them taken away. After 3 weeks in a psychiatric facility the psychiatrist didn't think I was a danger (because I'm not) and when my family had to give me my guns back (which they burgalized my car to take, and then tried to sell them while I was falsely imprisoned) they got angry at me like I did something wrong. The kicker? The person primarily responsible for all this is a family member who is a total Fudd and only believes in "rights" if it's somebody he likes. He's also admitted to me of committing multiple felonies in his life (burglarzing my car twice is only one example), naturally without ever getting caught, but yet sees himself as a saint. There are people in this world who everyone, even their own family, hates for no reason. And those people will use the system to target that person and strip them of their rights, using any sob stories they can think of. That's why state power is evil and only psychopaths want it to exist; so they can use a third party's help to control that individual by aggression, threats and coersion. Totally immoral. You should always question labels like "mentally ill" or "criminal" and think why would society want to label someone that way? Legal positivism has nothing to do with morality (right and wrong) by definition. Consider that and try to think 3-dimensionally, because every oppressive state has done this behavior. The US has just perfected hiding it in plain sight. Don't think it couldn't happen to you. It might not, but that dismissive attitude causes the untold suffering of many many people in this world every day. A bigger tyranny than the state is human solipsism
Edit: And for the people who don't seem to get it: "Just get away" is a totally useless thing to say. May as well tell poor people to "just have money". It's really easy to give simple solutions to problems that aren't your own
I would cut ties with the family members who wronged you
with family like that who needs enemies
Wanted to like your comment but that didn't seem right to like what happened to you so.. this post is my support for u
@@slaughter_salvo3298 And that's the most annoying part. When people say that as if I didn't think of it. Clearly if it were that easy I would have. Life is not so simple
@ his 1st amendment comment was taken, just like your 2nd. I imagine it was a good comment, hence it was banned so I only see your reply
My biggest fear with these laws, is that people who are really, truly mentally suffering will avoid seeking actual help from friends and family out of fear over having their rights infringed. For many, keeping their firearms may be more important than their own mental health.
Sad but possible. It's the same dilemma as when parents get reported as struggling to child services. Don't want to do nothing but don't want to make it worse.
We know a gun is a way more "convenient/effective" self delete method than most alternatives so seizure/forced storage could have the same effect as switching from coal gas or putting sleeping pills in blister packs had on the suicide rate. But the devil's in the detail.
This is sadly true
I know I would probably hide it
They don't seek help anyway, so that won't make a difference
@@silkroad1201
Absolutes are not a valid form of argument when humans are a component
This happened to me in Oakland Ca in a roommate dispute in 2016. If you don't know it came from a restraining order. This is a slippery slope and can go wrong so many ways.
In FL, you better not disclose ANYTHING about depression, off-grid living, firearms, or agriculture lol you WILL get the Baker Act!
I personally can see how red flag laws are ineffective with suicide. Leading example was my brother, always had issues but nothing anyone was overly concerned about. He was always smiling, always laughing, always joking, made friends with everyone he ever came in contact with... the works. Feb 2020 (before COVID and shut down, so can't blame that). He took off work 2 weeks in advance, didn't tell anyone. Bought another gun (I'm assuming for 1 sole purpose) didn't tell anyone. And shot himself. There were no red flags, no warnings, and he's not the first to be like that. I can understand the want for some kind of prevention to things like that, but in my opinion it's often the ones we don't see doing it and no one should be allowed to have property of any kind taken from them just because of "a bad feeling". I'd have never done to to my brother if we had any idea, I'd have spent more time to help him... Not throw his mindset further down. That's my take. I'm still dealing with it all, even after 2 years. Sorry for the rant guys, and thank you to anyone who read it. Btw, liked the video BH
sorry for your loss.
Im sorry to hear that. Thank you for sharing , much love friend.
I've lost too many friends to suicide here in Australia, and the only thing that would have changed if we had easy access to guns, would be the method of departure. Both times, it was a complete surprise to all those who knew them they were going to leave. I say keep your dangerous freedom as long as you can, and don't give up a damn thing, because it might eventually be a decision you need to make, and it doesn't hurt to have options.
I realized shit was about to get real when I saw the past-tense "had"
One of my good friends and my best friend, my brother, took their lives in the same manner. 6 years ago. Neither one of them really showed any indication of their suffering. We all loved firearms and enjoyed hunting and the outdoors. No one ever suspected that they would use them in that manner! I guess the takeaway is that you never really know what someone else is going through unless you get involved and really talk to them about it. Even if they just seem a"little off". Words and emotional support go a very very long way! In conclusion it's not the tool causing the problem. Flag laws will do nothing except take the rights away from normal everyday law abiding citizens. Be safe out there everybody!
"Not that you're a dummy , I though it was good title."
No no , you're not wrong.
Well fuck I just realised I made a typo and he already hearted it so I'm not going to edit the comment which will remove the heart. If you're offended , well , sucks to be you.
"No no, he's got a point."
@@afinoxi sad
I think it's a case of "It's easier to treat the symptoms than to actually address the problem."
It just so happens that most elderly politicians see "the symptoms" as "the existence of Privately owned Firearms in general"
No, I'm pretty sure they see privately owned guns as the problem itself.
i live in new york and this happens alot , it also happen to my grand father, his ex wife called the police and said she doesnt feel safe with guns in the house, so the cops took my grand fathers guns (he is a vietnam vet and an ex NYPD lieutenant).
Here's my thought on why red flag laws are terrifying even beyond the world of guns and constitutionality - specifically, I foresee a very bad cycle to happen:
-red flag laws are introduced/expanded
-people are less inclined to open up out of fear of getting swatted
-said individuals bottle up their emotions and the tension builds
-they hit a breaking point and shit hits the fan
-people want action
-politicians try to rinse the blood off their hands and repeat
Remind people that this _can and will_ go beyond guns and look out for your homies y'all - either we all hang together, or we all hang seperately
Me: "First time.."
We will end up like China where you literally need a permit to obtain a kitchen knife. Yeah a kitchen knife not a regular pocket knife or hunting knife.
California and New York's "Good Moral Standing" will look into these very things and use them against you.
Yep people aren’t going to seek help or therapy
the founding fathers knew its human instinct/nature to seek out weapons to protect yourself, family, and community from any possible threat. so making laws to criminalize a persons instincts for self preservation was an abuse of government on a persons natural rights/instincts endowed to them by there creator. it was the understanding that humans have the urge to have opinions, and express them, also humans want to defend themselves from evil/bad things.
they also knew they had to prevent the government from committing crimes against humanity, as they knew if they didn't write down these amendments the government could and would do such a thing. they knew that powers become corrupted and would go out of its way to cause unnecessary friction with the people, as a means of a power trip.
Nick Fury: We're gonna neutralize alot of threats before they even happen.
Steve Rogers: I thought the punishment usually came after the crime.
Nick Fury: We can't afford to wait that long.
Steve Rogers: Who's "We"?
Funny thing is those actors most likely support red flag laws.
To me that was the most politically relevant Captain America. All of that stuff was prophetic.
Rarely does art imitate life so well.
That and then caps speech about freedom at the end I love that scene
Ask our Canadian friends how they like their Federal red flag laws (since c1995). All it takes to have police beating down your door and confiscating your guns there is one single phonecall to the cops from one "concerned citizen". Unlike the USA, _not even a warrant is needed._ Nor trial, crime, or past record. Just a call from any old random person who claims you're some kind of threat, and cops will be at your door within hours to forcibly take your guns and hand you a hearing date. The details get sorted out in court later, where the burden of proof is on you to show that you're mentally fit and/or not a threat. Doctors, therapists and psychiatrists are legally obliged to call if you seek help for any mental illness like depression, schizophrenia, etc. This is easy because Canadians must be licensed to own guns: Whenever any government service runs your ID, your firearms ownership is displayed. Doesn't matter if it's a traffic stop for speeding or a visit to the doc for a broken arm.
As someone with Canuck relatives and friends, mostly gun owners, I can cite two instances of this being pulled by vindictive exes and once by an angry neighbor seeking revenge over a property line dispute. I'd be here all day typing out the details, so let's just say that in all cases it took almost a year for any of them to get their guns back, and when they did they were dented, scuffed and rusted out from police "storage". Despite the calls being total fabrications, none of the accusers faced any consequence, because their government believes genuine "concerned citizens" would be discouraged from calling if there were punishments for false reports. Do not, *DO NOT* let us become like Canada.
Thanks to Bill C-21 my PAL application will be shredded as I had a peacebond from a high school confrontation years ago, I will be permanantly banned from ever persuing my dream, I am no longer interested in staying here and am looking to leave.
The fact that they'll be revoking people's licenses for stuff that happened as far back as 2002 or whatever is mindboggling.
@@TheWayOfTheWind Many people are fleeing Trudeau's Kanuckistan. Good luck to you sir, and I advise you to leave while you can -- before the next "pandemic" wave bans you from transportation or border crossing.
@@J.DeLaPoer Need to get my degree 1st unfortunately, btw are any of your friends now in my shoes of losing their PAL forever?
The most comprehensive video on red flag laws that is digestible. Great work AK jesus
This is the very reason my dad stopped going to the VA " Behavioral Health" department. He was asked no less than 6 times a visit by different people if he had ideas of Control-Alt-Delete with the the implication they'd take his firearms if he didnt tow the line. One day after having endured it for the nth time he told the doctor " you know what?!?!? you're a genius! I am fully cured and dont need any more visitation! Thanks!"....and never went back. They drove him away.
you dad is awesome.
I said it in another comment, but this is why 22 veterans a day self delete. If the VA actually cared, they would solve the actual problems vets face instead of treating them like second class citizens.
The VA is so asinine it fails to be funny.
@@kellyalger2394 Exactly this. As a veteran myself, I tell them straight up what I'm dealing with and they do absolutely nothing. They take "going through the motions" to a whole new level. I'm not a medical Dr and I'm pretty sure I could do their job better.
Yeah. The VA sucks. With a 15 month waiting period on general health visits....I'd rather pay for health insurance than die waiting in line. My VA doctor told me if I get a cold just go to the ER because that's the only way I'll be seen by a doctor.
I live in New Jersey. My family is very left-leaning and they’ve never liked the idea of me being interested in firearms. I bought my first rifle last year and when I told them, they lost their shit, and my dad especially spouted some bullshit about mass shootings, how me owning a gun would make me a target of “racist police” (cause I’m black), and other nonsense. In short, they’ve made it abundantly clear they do not want me to own any kind of firearms, period.
I lost my job about three months ago, and soon after it happened, I got depressed and became totally withdrawn. I was posting emo-type shit on Facebook and Instagram, amongst other things, but that’s behind me now, and I really believe that things are changing for the better for me. I should mention that at no point did I ever talk about or contemplate suicide, especially with my own gun.
These red flag laws scare the shit outta me, because I can totally see my father or other family having my guns taken from me, all because I hit a bad patch for a month or two. It’s already happened to others, I don’t want it to happen to me.
Tl;dr I got big sad recently, got over it, and now I’m worried my libtard family is gonna use these red laws to have my 2A rights stripped from me.
I moved several thousand miles and burned my social media to the ground to get away from family like that. It sucks, because you lose friends who might not be that kind of trash, but sometimes its worth it.
And your 4A right
They're worried about police killing you ,and you killing yourself...
...but (also) EXACTLY the sort of people that would turn you in to those same cops. Not only that, but burn any trust you have left and leave you alone in the world ;in a manner of speaking.
South Carina accepts and encouages firearms refugees.
Come on down, bother.
[Better a Yankee ,than some commiefornians. Yankees can be reasoned with...most of the time.*
*All we ask is this: When it snows or ices up, here, Please (please) just enjoy the day off.
We don't get enough of it to keep up with it. Don't bitch about the roads and how long it takes to clear them.
[They suck anyway]
And don't be out front ,in board shorts acting like it's "not cold" 15°F.
Nobody likes those assholes.
'owning a gun would make you a target of racist police'
BAHAHAHA, ok, that's one really huge leap of stupid illogic if I've ever seen one. If the popos actually wanted my ass to be grass, I'd be a damned fool if I didn't have a 'second opinion' by my side.
Welp, sorry to hear about that (but also glad you're doing better). Once you register the confiscation form 4473 then that's what happens, and families are often the cases of backstabbing (and statistically high chance for even murders), hence if you don't trust someone (and families gossip), then don't tell them, they don't need to know.
It's just like my family, I don't tell them anything about work, even when it's unclassified (that and I do take confidential info as equal to TS information, even if I haven't signed NDAs it's still going to be kept secret if that's the intent). Best they know is roughly where I work, and that sometimes I work UAVs on the weekends. That's pretty much what my LinkedIn profile is going to say too, they don't need to know anything more specific than that, even when it's public knowledge I'm not going to mention it. If you wouldn't want it public knowledge (because it will be after they gossip), then don't say anything!
Can confirm. My friends salty ex had his guns taken away for no reason. Just to be petty. Super psychotic. Took months to get them back
Did this to my uncle after his divorce when he did nothing and ended having to give over a hunder guns to my grandpa for a couple years while he fought it in court iv seen both sides of this though bc iv also seen cases including one of my friends that it could've saved lives bc they werent in the right state of mind and no one other than there close family saw it
Red Flag laws are an abusers charter.
I met a biker who had just got out of prison for being "a dangerous criminal".
What actually happened was that he caught his wife cheating on him. She went to the cops and made up some crap about him and he ended up getting a felony conviction for assaulting her. She patiently waited a little while and then went to the cops to report a small calibre handgun that his dad gave him, which was in a box under the bed, that he had forgotten all about. He went down for illegally owning a handgun that was given to him legally. He went to prison, she moved back into the apartment. Stitched up right and proper. She had planned the whole thing.
Red flag laws are basically a way to wreck someones life and you dont even need the burden of proof.... just a lot of volunteers who dont like you.
Yeah, but are "bikers" pretty easy not to like?
Shoot bro that's rough. Imagine that handgun was like the only thing he had from his dad. We have an old pistol on a shelf that hasn't been shot in decades. I don't even think it's operational but it's always been on a shelf. For years and years. That think doesn't have paperwork. It's was probably sold long before an FBI background check even existed 😂 I've never seen it come out of the case in my life.
@@waynedrummond6583 depends on if you fuck with the underworld or not. do you? I'd say from the ones I've stumbled across, they're pretty agreeable people. primarily because I don't do any organised crime. look, bikie or no, if the government can just fuck anyone they like off of testimony with no burden of proof as OP just said, we're all pretty much in for trouble.
@@waynedrummond6583 I'd rather hang out with bikers than lawyers, at least bikers are honest.
@@waynedrummond6583 I certainly like them more than than these demonic feminists.
I'll tell you, a lot of people outside of America that I've talked to had no idea what it took to own a gun. When I was looking to buy a 1911, my friends from europe and australia thought it was weird that they refused to allow me to purchase the gun solely due to my address not being the same as my current one, on my ID. I had to explain to them the whole process of purchasing a gun in the US and they were legitimately shocked at what buying a gun required. They thought it was easy to purchase a gun, so easy, in fact, that they thought it would take me 10 minutes to go get the thing. I feel that kind of shows why when people from other countries get on the topic of gun control in America, they have no idea what we need as I've seen tons of that online. People from outside the US advocating for more gun laws in America when they have no idea what laws we already have in place.
Yea, surprise surprise it isn't as easy as people overseas think. And yet I continue to get lectured by a prick saying "oh you don't need this; you don't need that. You shouldn't be able to purchase such-and-such." It's like dude, fuck off.
Also, comment before mine I think YT might have been shadow banned-can't get it to show up or anything, but it's saying it's there.
As an Australian I used to think similarly. then I looked at the laws. the laws are fine. could be different (for instance having public carry restriction rather than purchase restriction of firearms) from what I can tell seems to be the process that leads up to the sales that needs a refocus. what checks and audits can be conducted to assure there is a trail of where each firearm was produced, where it was sent and whether or not it's still inventoried should all be readily accessible to law enforcement without even bringing gun owners into it.
it's all very strange to me but, I can see there are perfectly fine laws. the stories we hear just seem to be because aspects of it weren't enforced correctly...
as a scotsman i have always watched in awe of gun rights in america ive never advocated for more gun control in america as i honestly wish i had the rights to own guns in my country(without all the uk legal bullshitterey) and it is in your constitution plain and clear but even i have only recently realised how much regulation and paperwork there is before you can even buy any firearm and how the laws differ widely from state to state it's mental to me that a firearm from one state thats's legal could be a felony in another part of the country
Lot of people IN America don't have any idea what it takes to own a gun.
And that's why we have folks calling for mandatory background checks and machine-gun bans, both of which have been on the books for literal decades.
You don't need more gun laws. But you obviously need NEW gun laws.
The ones you have clearly don't work since lunatics gunowners shoot up your country daily!
-As you say, not being able to buy a gun because of different adresses might seem strickt... but it is prolly a rule to keep ppl from using alot of different adresses to hide their ownership of guns.
But maybe a psychological test would be a good idea... I bet alot of sellers could screen out depressed lone gunmen teenagers needing guns and buckets full of ammo for no apparant reason...
But when all is said, what america really needs is a total clean up of guns in society. Ban weapons in public and confiscate and destroy every single firearm carried in public without having them in locked weapons cases. When you have clean up and destroyed all illigal guns and legal guns from owners not respecting the laws, then you might have a chance of restarting with new screening rules based on mental health, criminal rapsheets etc.
Because right now you are caught in a vicious circle of death where everyone buys more guns because ppl die from guns... That will never work.
There is just one true fact: The less firearms in society, the less ppl get shot.
I work as a therapist and its amazing how good poeple are at knowing what they can and can't say to not have it reported. And all it doese is prevent open and honest conversation about their feelings. I've clients that talking about there feelings openly just added trauma to the list of things they are dealing with.
Damn straight, Brandon. I had a Red Flag instance a long time ago, before there were any laws ... your talk about Red Flag (excellent) reminded me of that horrific instance.
Fifteen years ago, I lived in a small town in Southern Utah, and my wife was going through a mental breakdown crisis that led her, one morning, to go to the local cops (the head cop had a deep and abiding belief that all men were shit-holes and all women were victimized and needed help). She told him that she was afraid of me and my guns (which I kept locked up in the garage (admittedly not as secure a location as Biden's escapades makes clear). So the head cop called me over and grilled me for hours.
What really happened was that years before I'd gone no contact with my mother, who was toxic. After dinner, we were talking about this and I said something to the effect that I wished she'd die so I could start forgiving her and getting on with my life. That's all. But in my whack-a-doo wife's brain, that meant I was threatening her (wife) when I wasn't even threatening my mother. I was just commenting on how, since she felt justified in what she'd done to me, I couldn't forgive her, so it kept haunting me. That's all.
The cop demanded I do something so my wife could be more secure, even though a local specialist in spousal abuse said to him that my wife was NOT being abused, had NOT been abused, but that she was half a bubble off plumb. We settled on I'd give the cop my guns to store - I was not surrendering them - and I could have them back any time I asked. I was fine with that as I really just wanted her to quit being terrified of me. In addition, she agreed to get into counseling. An important thing we overlooked was that she did not surrender her Ruger Mk. III .22 target pistol (she was a freakin' Annie Oakley - I'd been shooting since I was 11, I'd shot on the rifle team in college, and I was good (not fantastic, or even really competitive, but good). The first time I took her to the range, she out-shot me, having never shot before. Anyway ..
A few months later, I got my guns back. She was (apparently) no longer afraid so there was no longer any reason to keep them secure. Even though I'd had a signed agreement with the cop, he didn't want to give them back, but I insisted, and he relented.
A few weeks later, my wife started talking about how she was sure that her counselor would tell the cops in Kentucky that she'd killed her young son 25 years ago (he'd been born with massive birth defects and had no means of living, and he died of natural causes). That was absurd, because the local Kentucky coroner ruled it for what it was - unsurvivable birth defects. She wasn't afraid of me - she feared Kentucky cops (we were in Utah), which was absurd, but she wasn't "right." Anyway, a few days later, she asked me to go to the grocery store, locked the bedroom door, took out her target pistol (I'd disassembled it and hid it, but she'd figured out where it was, and since it was hers, she knew how to assemble it), and put one .22LR in her heart. An hour later, I came home and knew something was wrong. I had to disassemble the lock before finding her. Dead. Naturally, though I had witnesses who had seen me at the grocery (and the gas station), and all evidence pointed toward suicide, the cop wanted me charged, and wanted to take away my guns. However, he had to wait for the state medical examiner, who found evidence of at least 37 previous suicide attempts.
My point, even without a red flag law, the cops wanted to take my legally-bought guns. I can only imagine what it would be like with a Red Flag law. And here I thought Florida was civilized. I am surprised that the NRA (I'm a life member) didn't tell me that a red flag law was possible, so I could have opposed it. Lately I've been feeling we need some organization better than NRA to defend our rights.
Ned in Nevada
I was lucky enough to grow up in a small town in Texas. Pretty much everyone had a gun in their truck (not many cars around). Most in a rifle rack visible through your back window. We knew all of the police officers and they all knew us. If you got pulled over for being drunk, they would take you home. If you got physical with anyone, you spent the night in jail. If there was a situation that got overheated, they would call a relative of yours to take custody of your guns until you cooled down. There was one murder in 20 years and that involved two people not from our town. You can't turn back time but neighborhood policing works. Breaking cities into smaller neighborhood "towns" and assigning specific officers to that area creates a level of familiarity. They can do talks at schools, be visible during sporting events, visit store owners, go to a local church, get to know the people in the community. I knew every police officer by name, the new ones would introduce themselves to the community. There were some good ones and some not so good, but they were a part of our community. I don't know the name of a single police officer in my city but the officer to person ratio is the same. I have had interactions with two or three but never the same one twice. Small towns turning into large cities remove most of the human interaction and data points necessary for police officers to make logical decisions. You no longer are a person that has a history and some experience with the officers, you are a body that is involved in something and the police officer has to make a decision based on little to no information on you. Good data leads to good decisions. No data leads to....guessing. This is an area for significant improvement.
Also, neighborhood policing holds police officers to much more accountability, instead of it being so intertwined with the state that it is impossible to have any sort of recourse on police brutality and other horrid practices like civil asset forfeiture. It would make red flag laws viable with community policing, esp when most people are responsible gun owners and you'd have a better idea of whom actually may be a problem that leads to shot up schools. When cops are actually of the community, they get a better idea of people living in it and the problems they face. You would have far far less cases of cops treating people with mental health issues brutally, cops brutalizing unarmed black people; because they got to actually know the people living there and wouldn't be this oppressive extent of the state. Poorer communities not having good communal policing leads to worse problems, because the state trying to be like "we know what is best for you" leads to those communities with even more problems and turns that poor population into disposable labor for the prison industrial complex.
That's how it used to be in the United States. Just about everything you said what how it was.
What changed was the immense militarization of police.
And yes that is a real phenomenon.
Why? Why not? Just treat everybody as if they were a mass danger.
When everybody knows everybody else, it becomes a lot harder for one person to have a jaded mental breakdown and start viewing the others as faceless targets. If I remember correctly, in the old days of the military, back when our grandparents were still young, they would put effort into dehumanizing "the enemy" in order to make them easier to kill without hesitation. I'm not sure how much of that goes on today, but either way, it kind of proves the point.
A lot of social programs got introduced in the 60s that ended up breaking down communities. Public housing, government welfare, forced education, etc… Further social regulations and government programs continued to replace communities as cost of living started to go up due to government efforts, cheap loan money and the loss of blue collar jobs. In short, there has been a systematic effort (both intentional and unintentional ) to undermine American society.
@@johnrobberts7936 the state also only began solving these problems cause the free market never met the needs of blue collared and nonrich people, the free market was the boot that crushed the lives of these workers. It was only less than 50 years that many blue collared workers were paid scrib in company towns. Remember The Battle of Blair Mountain, where they bombed and tried gunning down workers (1 million rounds fired) who tried unionizing for their lives to not be miserable hell under the boots of the bosses that saw them as disposable.
The way we structured our communities was the perfect opportunity for the state to seize a lot more power. As we moved toward suburbia lifestyle, this displaced a lot of people, as the saying “it takes a village to raise a kid” was more the lifestyle we had. People could have a good amount of land while also being apart of a close community. This entire aspect of living was disrupted across the board, whether you lived in city or in rural areas. The automobile made more of a case to disrupt this previous way of living by making us so reliant upon it for almost every aspect of our lives. The resources that it takes when all your businesses scattered becomes more and more unobtainable with time (leading to things like inflation), because the business model doesn’t make sense. And either the free market realizes it’s loss and tries to actual fix how fucked things have become, or the state will do a shit job trying to fix the mess that the market left
This has happened to me, came back from deployment pretty messed up in 2020. I got out about a year later and still wasn’t 100% anyways I was feeling pretty down one night. It was about 2am on a Monday and didn’t feel like annoying a buddy by calling at 2am. I made the mistake of calling the veterans S-word hotline. Wasn’t close or trying to commit it, I just wanted to talk to someone. Anyways the conversation was boring and felt like she was reading a script. I unfortunately did acknowledge I had a gun with me and explained it wasn’t for S-word but because I simply still didn’t feel safe even back home especially at night. Well anyways call dropped when I went to get another beer due to bad reception in most of my house. I ignored the call back due to the conversation being as boring as watching paint dry. Cops showed up at my house around an hour later about 12 deep. Dispatcher called my phone and asked me to step outside to talk to the cops. I did (being .32 bac drunk I did thinking I could explain to them what was up then get back to my night. Instead I had shotguns, rifles, pistols, tasers and a 40mm pointed at me and was thrown into cuffs. Driven to a mental health screening place where the “doctor” didn’t care what I said and was more worried on why I had a gun and why it was loaded. Despite all my answers he said he didn’t believe me. Ended up being a temporary detention order and having yo sit in a mental hospital for a week waiting on a court date. The court was a joke, the judge simply asked a psychiatrist that based on everything that happened if she believes I should be hospitalized. She said yes, and that was it. I had no say could not do or say anything to change his mind.
All that I learned from that was hate, to never reach out for help, police aren’t your friend and how awful these laws are. Still not legally allowed to posses, own or transport weapons or ammo.
You're loved if fr ill say it, I love you and thank you for fighting for this country that has wronged you so bad. You have everyone here's support. If you ever need to just talk to someone for anything I can give you my email.
The sad reality of the same government you fought for turning it's back on you once you are out of their grasp.
lol people be like “back the blue”
@@thedak808 The only blue they are inadvertently backing is the Democrats.
Hey brother I know what you went through. Didn’t tell the hotline about any weapons but told them I was in a dark place. Then like you said, the script is read. After 8 mins of the most monotonous drivel, I thanked them for time. My Dad, a Vietnam Vet, helped and told me there were more guys out there like him that will help me. I try to help as many as I can now. So if you still need someone to talk to about what your dealing with, hit me up. We need to lower that 22 stat. Thanks brother
Due Process is one of the most basic pillars of a free society. Without Due process, you lose:
-Right to a speedy trial
-Right to a public trial
-Right to an unbiased tribunal or impartial jury
-Right to full notice and explanation of the charges being brought and the grounds for bringing such charges
-Right to counsel
-Right to confront and cross-examine adverse witnesses
-Right to have the court compel favorable witnesses to appear
In addition to the foregoing rights set forth in the Sixth Amendment, due process also includes the following:
-Right to receive exculpatory or opposing evidence from prosecutors
-Right to call witnesses and present evidence
-Right to make a record that can be reviewed on appeal
-Right to have a decision based solely on the evidence presented
-Right to review or appeal of a judge or jury’s decision
9:22 we need more of this. More honesty and reaching across the aisle. I really appreciated that part.
We could sum up the law in one sentence. "Don't touch me or my sh*t." Everything else is trivial. Also, I foresee a LOT of lawsuits in the courts' future for infringing on 2A.
I agree heavily, this redflag bull will come to a head. Lots of 2a lawyers are salivating at the unconstitutionality of this.
@@gang-ridertv5433 several thousand people in Florida have been red flagged already, where are these salivating lawyers?
Can you explain this to me?
The 2nd is being infringed upon in several instances by the ATF. How isn't there lawsuits flying? Why isn't gun ownership returned to an absolute free level?
It just doesn't make sense to me, that "this" is the line, when "the line" gets moved by 10 yards every few years and then gun owners are standing at the line going "THIS IS THE LAST TIME YOU DID THAT" and then they act surprised it happens again, when they don't ever fight back.
I'm not a US citizen, neither would I want to be, but this just baffles me. I'm all in favor of gun ownership, btw. I wasn't born with enough brain damage to want to remove a nations right to firearms of all sorts.
Lawyers don't go against the atf too much because they're the fbi and don't want to be epstiened
@@revisit8480 Because the ATF is so powerful the yare untouchable, so if you were to file a law suit, the ATF will shoot you, say "he was a threat to the public" and people go "oh ok.", repeat this numerous years.
Its so much a problem that small group of people are being harassed while others are like "well fuck my neighbor right?"
I am very worried about this one as a Veteran that works to improve care at the VA. It is tough enough to get vets to ask for help without red flag laws. Vets struggling with PTSD will have a very tough time asking for help or claiming the benefits they have earned. Being diagnosed with PTSD becomes a very scary thing when you have to worry about it being used against you to take away your 2A rights.
Read my comments above concerning my dad. . . for myself, they tried to get me into the system with a bunch of shady stuff, like trying to diagnose someone with known ADHD from childhood as bi-polar, even though there was no basis for this anywhere in my childhood or adult life. Thats when, following MY DAD's footsteps as mentioned in my other comment here, i left the VA Behavioral health system forever. I came in asking for them to renew my Adderal prescription after not taking it for 6-7 years, and ended up being coerced into a place i didnt want to be , by people who COULD CARE LESS WHAT I I SAID TO THEM.
I've avoided getting a diagnosis because I know it would ruin my life. Firearms are a mandatory part of my job. I'm really good at what I do and it gives me a purpose to stay focused, rather than drown myself in alcohol until my liver fails.
Thanks for what you do. It’s an important and often overlooked job
@@rustyshackleford6369 Thank you I appreciate that it is just part time but we do a lot of good for VAs all around the country.
@@Mortablunt I hear you brother I am in the same boat I don’t want to quit alcohol but keeping from drinking too much is a constant struggle and working to improve care at the VA really keeps my eyes open on how much damage alcohol can do.
I watched this last year. Now, YT removed my viewing history.
I didn't die and ask my friends as last request.
In regards to red flag laws, people who accuse someone of being unfit to have a firearm and actually go through the process having someone else's firearms confiscated should also be financially responsible for all the mental health care that that person supposedly needs. So if you got a butt hurt ex-wife or some red assed family members that just don't like you having a gun because they just don't like you personally and accuse you of being unfit, should pay through the nose for every bit of" mental health counseling" for you. Then we'll see if they really think the same way about it.
But of course we all really know it's never about mental health issues.
That would be fun ! 😂
One thing I haven't heard anybody talking about yet is the fact that red flag laws make law-abiding gun owners hesitant about sharing their knowledge and experience. As soon as my state passed a red flag law I became a lot more cautious about even admitting that I was a gun owner to people I didn't know very well. These types of laws are not only designed to make it easier for the government to take firearms. They are also designed to intimidate us to keep us from educating the uninformed. In my opinion it's also a violation of the First Amendment.
Interesting (and very insightful) point.
For the people supporting red flag laws, this is not a bug, it's a feature.
The power of these so called "red flag laws" are way overblown by gun enthusiasts. If your ex wants to get back at you and reports you for some supossed mental illness, they're not just gonna say "Ok!" and go snatch your guns. That's ridiculous. I'm not saying I agree with them, I'm just saying you can relax. As scared as this guy and Glenn Beck have made you, there's still such thing as due process before your rights are infringed.
@@silkroad1201 dead wrong. These laws only exist to circumvent due process. I've seen lots of legitimate stories with video footage. In States like California where they do not have the probable cause to attain a warrant. A simple allegation is enough for them to come and confiscate your firearms.
Those who want change, just need one complete generation of mindless tools who are easy to control, and they will have won. Then you can kiss all your freedoms goodbye. Red Flag laws are just one tool they use to keep the next generation uneducated.
Taking guns out of schools in 1990 just stopped them getting the correct education on using them safely, as well as why it is the responsibility of each good citizen to stay vigilant in the defense of their freedoms. Now you just have a generation of stupid 30 year olds who have no idea how to be a good citizen, and think everything should be handed out on a silver platter. Great Job government, you fucked it up real good this time.
I'll take "What is a tyrannical and unconstitutional act that will definitely be abused and probably result in both dead cops and civilians" for 500 Brandon
the founding fathers knew its human instinct/nature to seek out weapons to protect yourself, family, and community from any possible threat. so making laws to criminalize a persons instincts for self preservation was an abuse of government on a persons natural rights/instincts endowed to them by there creator. it was the understanding that humans have the urge to have opinions, and express them, also humans want to defend themselves from evil/bad things.
they also knew they had to prevent the government from committing crimes against humanity, as they knew if they didn't write down these amendments the government could and would do such a thing. they knew that powers become corrupted and would go out of its way to cause unnecessary friction with the people, as a means of a power trip.
Dead cops and gun owners? Sounds like a veritable progressive wet dream...they know exactly what they are doing despite seeming extremely illogical.
Sort of like civil asset forfeiture laws, where cops and the feds can confiscate money or other property and then YOU have to prove that it wasn't connected to a crime. Steve Lehto has a bunch of videos on that, if you want your blood pressure to spike.
It's somewhat ironic "The AK Guy" is speaking out on our American freedoms more often than ALL of the American guntubers COMBINED. Thank you Brandon.....Fuck, thats the first time I've said that since 2020!
The way you say that makes it sound like Brandon isn't American...
@@WJS774 Good point!
It’s so awesome to see guys like you that present these topics for everyone, not just people who are pro-2A or whatever. Its also great to see how you are so clear on facts and your opinions. People often don’t realize when they present their opinion as fact, and you really do a great job of outlining both the law and sharing your opinion on it. Really great video man
Me, a European watching Brandon's video on an American law, just enjoying the video. Knowing full well that this does not apply to me.
yes, Putin appreciates that u have no guns 😅
same, damn why do I live in the UK
As an American I find it awesome that you share our interest.👍watch away friend! Brandon Herrera should be an international right to watch. 😁
Yea you guys just stab each other a bunch now that they took ur guns away.
As said by Brandon, "Guns, are awesome"
1776: Signed the Declaration of Independence to separate the USA from British rule.
2022: Signs even more gun laws in to statute, stepping even closer to BECOMING the UK.
Speaking as a Brit that has extremely limited access to firearms, don't be like us.
2042: signs a law to recognize Cyborg Queen Elizabeth as US head of state
the founding fathers knew its human instinct/nature to seek out weapons to protect yourself, family, and community from any possible threat. so making laws to criminalize a persons instincts for self preservation was an abuse of government on a persons natural rights/instincts endowed to them by there creator. it was the understanding that humans have the urge to have opinions, and express them, also humans want to defend themselves from evil/bad things.
they also knew they had to prevent the government from committing crimes against humanity, as they knew if they didn't write down these amendments the government could and would do such a thing. they knew that powers become corrupted and would go out of its way to cause unnecessary friction with the people, as a means of a power trip.
@@stevenmike1878 i feel the whole point of the second amendment is to allow citizens to protect themselves from a corrupt/tyrannical govt, like they did against the UK.
How is the crimes in your city?
@@renanvinicius6036 I don't live in a city, just a town, and the crime rate here is very low. I've only been a victim of it twice personally, once when my leather jacket was stolen from my kitchen (the side door was left open), and once when my car was broken in to and the sound system in the trunk was taken. All in all It's a pretty quiet place.
Went into a downward spiral after coming back in '15; however, not a sob story looking for pity; point is, I had a proverbial speed bump and got through it. If I had my firearms taken away, it probably would've made things worse. Keep on doing ur great content! HOOAH! ✊️✊️🇺🇲
The Wyoming joke is especially funny for me because I was visiting some friends in Wyoming and when we looked at their house on Google Maps it was clear their house is actually in Nebraska, but their mailbox is like 10 feet over the state border, so the post office says they're in Wyoming.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither" AND WILL LOSE BOTH.
Even germans know that full quote.
*imitating brandons side-note-face* might be something in our history...
Ben Franklin: Pay taxes and let the government handle security or you deserve nothing. Modern Americans: He meant "screw the government", FREEDOM!
@@-imperatorinsomnia-6163 Ah yes, another Euroclown here to misinterpret the Constitution and its founders for us. Thanks Euroclown, we couldn't have done it without you. Humble reminder: you're talking about the guy who privately owned a warship.
@@-imperatorinsomnia-6163 paying taxes does not require giving up liberty.
@@Zanthum Pay up and government security was the purpose of that whole quote. It wasn't about holding out against oppression from your/a government. "purchase temporary safety" was meant literally. Ben wanted PERMANENT.
Over the last few years ive been feeling more and more like george carlin was completely right when he said, “Rights aren’t rights if someone can take them away. They’re privileges. That’s all we’ve ever had in this country is a bill of temporary privileges.”
What I don't think Carlin understood was that the Bill of Rights is part of a contract that lays out what the government has to follow. We already had those things as natural rights, the paper be damned. But it's there to remind the government of its OBLIGATIONS TO THE PEOPLE - NO MORE, NO LESS. Unfortunately, We The People have allowed the government to get out of hand and disobey the contract that was originally signed. There's a fix for that, and it's actually written in the contract.
I miss that man a lot, i always wonder how he would react to the current situation in the world.
there needed to be better screening before allowing anybody to board the boats leaving "the old country..."
Um,,, they are rights until you relinquish them.
Grow a pair: or ask your lady friend to take them out of her purse….
@@michaelgarrow3239 wut?
Excellent video Mr.Herrera. You presented the laws as they were written, highlighted how they are violations of The Bill of Rights, and gave your opinion and view in a way that was easy to understand.
Sorry I'm late to the party!
Was knockin back a few casks of ale with Tommy, George, John Jay, John Adams, John Hancock, Jimmy, and a few other notable colleagues. I'm not known as a drinker, so I kept an eye on the festivities, a mediator of sorts.
I greatly enjoyed the video and your clear explanations of the key points therein. Fight tooth n nail for all you can and never retreat! These usurpations must be struck down to allow freedom for all citizens, whether they wish to own firearms, or not.
Bless you, AK Lord, in all your endeavors 🇺🇲🦅
And yes, this has happened to me. Miserable ex decided to “get back” at me, and cops showed up, took my guns, and left. Never been as pissed as that moment.
time to red flag her too
How long to get them back? did you?
@@thedak808 I got them back after a month long battle. Had to prove that she was a lying pos and i was never abusive.
@@darenmiller2218 did your state’s law prohibit new purchases? (I know ammo is uhh expensive but still)
@@thedak808 I’m not sure about that one. I wasn’t allowed to have any firearm during the course of the kangaroo court system, so I would assume not.
My conclusion is that if the state actually cared about stopping a "dangerous person" from doing harm to themselves or others, then they should just detain them. Anything else doesn't achieve that objective and is a giant cluster of undue process.
Exactly! Here's what one of the legislators in my state said to justify our red flag law, which allows _police_ to flag you, as well as citizens:
“One police chief from rural New Mexico told me his officers repeatedly went to one house where there were threats of gun violence and they felt that this was a serious situation and ultimately there was a murder-suicide at that house. So, that’s an example where a law enforcement officer could petition a judge, it could save lives,” Rep. Garratt said.
If "threats of gun violence" are being made, _that is a crime!_ That's assault in every jurisdiction, and assault with a deadly weapon in many. If the cops are repeatedly going to a place where someone is committing assault and not arresting that person, then _that_ is the problem, not whether or not that person has guns!
Detaining a mentally ill person is a horrible person. Our prison system is dog shit and doesn't help people with underlying issues. If someone poses a risk to themselves or others, it's better to try and get them medical help not detain them.
@@Vladimir_4757 detaining and arresting someone is very different, if you detain someone you are no accusing them of a crime, you are just temporarily holding them for a investigation or just to try and help them, most detained suspects don't set foot in a jail and some don't even get handcuffed
And give the goverment the right to drag a person out of their homes and keep them kidnapped, sorry detained for god knows how long. Yeah cant see how that could get fucky
@@johnedwards4235 You're right, but not entirely accurate.
You are "detained" any time a cop wants to speak with you and you are not free to leave. Pulled over for speeding? Detained. Technically, a cop needs some "reasonable articulable suspicion" to detain you, but the courts have gotten pretty lenient on what constitutes RAS these days. You can be cuffed during detention, but it's rare.
If you're hauled off to jail, you are arrested. Once arrested, you can be held for a varying amount of time without being charged, depending on a lot of factors, but usually it's 24-48 hours.
If it's for a mental illness issue, you can be taken to a psychiatric facility, at which point you're no longer arrested, but can be held by the facility for some period.
Congrats on 2M! Better late then never! Love your content, keep'um coming.
Congrats on 2 mil!
Yep, this happened to me in New Mexico. Had to surrender my firearms for one year after my ex wife literally went bat shit crazy. After a four month FBI investigation and cleared all of all charges, I still had to wait to get my own property back until the 365 day minimum period expired.
That doesn't make sense! So they can essentially disarm you and keep you that way without any evidence for a year even though a federal agency investigated and found you innocent... Incredible...
I live in NM too, this state is f'ing wild.
So why did you not sue the state?
@@zachthomas4574 civil suits are expensive
@J de Leon you dont win if you go bankrupt 10 years in and drop the suit
Glad you are making this video, I hope that this spreads the word about how stupid these laws are.
Yes these laws are dumb
Bro posted this without even starting the video
it doesnt make aense to the avarage citizen but it surely does to the brandon administration. They want your guns not peoples safety
These laws might affect all the big TH-camrs. They're gonna have to start putting more meat in the game.
Brandon is decent about it at times though, he tries.
@@shanelacross6744 right? No joke intro here, it's serious time lol
My wife's ex got a po on me for making a formal complaint. I lost my job, my retirement that was 50 plus firearms, lost custody of my step children, and my kids got put in foster care
Great content Brandon. Respect for you reaching across the isle for a hand to shake..
Red Flag Laws: because civil forfeiture was such a good idea and totally does not result in the cops mugging people to pad out there budget.
Red flag laws are stop and frisk laws but on steroids.
I was in the hospital waiting room while my mother was getting surgery today. Somebody reported me as a suspicious person. Long haired white guy in a camo hat with a big camo backpack (staying overnight so brought a pack)
Im a certified responder mind you.
I was just sitting there on youtube when suddenly 3 sheriffs, a sargent, a guard and the hospital manager surrounded me asking me if i had weapons and several people reported me, 2 of which were so scared they left the hospital.
Keep in mind, every tv, in every room, is showing jan 6th hearings.
I was escorted out because i had a pocket knife
Fuckin hell, I actually trust people who carry firearms more than the morons around them.
Wow. Just wow.
Holy shit... People can be so bloody paranoid
Nowadays its almost garantied to be called on by overly scared people if you wear sonething with camo. Was wearing a camo cap with sunglasses in a supermarket. Serves me right for wearing the sunglasses inside lol. But this old dude looked a lot after me and at the cashier he confronted me, because in his opinion i didnt distance myself from the next person in the line. I told him of and he called the cops on me...
Same thing happened to me over a pack of wet wipes. I hope your Mom gets better soon.
My dad said I somehow have red flags on my background check, so I can't get a gun when I turn 18, and or become a gun inventor. Even though I have no criminal history nor have I ever committed something horrible or bad.
Congrats on the 2 mil, let’s go Brandon! Very informative and well spoken sir, much obliged
Imagine feeling depression and anxiety to the point of thinking of forever-sleeping yourself. But instead you manage to convince yourself to confide in a loved one or friend. You feel a little better and your more confident that someone understands what you're going through and is ready to support you. Within a couple of days though the police show up on your door and begin to search you home and take your firearms. You finally worked up the courage to talk to someone, and the first thing they did was call the government and tell them that they believe you are unsafe. That sounds like it could be taken as a betrayal to me.
Stay safe out there everyone, and make sure to call a friend. It helps more than you know.
That's not at all betrayal, that's a sign that person actually cares about u and doesn't want u to hurt urself. Depression can hit hard at a random moments notice, and if ur already going through waves of suicidal thoughts, just because at one moment u were well enough to reach out to someone and let them know doesnt mean u won't dip back down and go through with it. That person can't always be there with u making sure u don't do it, but all it takes is a single second to shoot urself and ur gone forever. It's the easiest, fastest, most spur of the moment way to do it sadly. So yes, if u know someone is suicidal and u have serious concerns they might actually do it the best thing IS to make sure they don't have access to a gun (and if u can't get them to hand them over to u to hold on to while they seek help then this is the last resort). No one is saying they lose them forever, because they dont, but not having them easily at hand makes it less likely they'll do something irreversible if they sink into a deep depression again. If u think a person reporting u out of fear you'll do it is a betrayal of trust to them, then clearly u have never been in that situation or had those kinds of dark depressive thoughts. Its FAR better to have the biggest threat to their wellbeing separated from them TEMPORARILY while they can actively seek help to get better than it is to be attending a closed casket funeral because they cried out for help and u did nothing to keep them safe. Id rather they be mad at me for a little while than them not be able to feel any emotions ever again 6ft underground
@@dragon10449,
You DO realize that when the Government takes, they RARELY give back right?
@@jacknedry3925 you do realize that all red flag laws currently on the books have a maximum time they can have your firearms confiscated before they have to give them back if they did not have evidence of you actually being a threat or at threat of harming yourself (and if they dont, that needs to be a requirement alongside a minimum amount of evidence to file a report AND strict punishments for knowingly filing a false report like Vermont's red flag law).
@@dragon10449,
You seem to have too much faith in government…
@@jacknedry3925 No, I work for a government contractor so I know damn well how dumb the gov can be. But so long as they have the wording of a red flag law written correctly (which is a very big deciding factor on if the law will work well or be abused, much like any law) then it doesn't matter how much faith I have in the gov or not. The beauty is if it is written correctly and they hold them for longer than the max time without other requirements to hold them being met, u just got a very nice lawsuit payday on ur hands. If its common enough (ie if it gets abused as much as anti-red flag law advocates claim it will be) then u know for sure there will be lawyers who specifically handle these kinds of cases like u see with personal injury and ambulance chasers.
Politicians: We need more gun laws to stop violence!
Twits (endearing term for Twitter users): Yeah!
People who actually look into things before agreeing: Hey, that's a decent theory. Let's take a look at the cities with the strictest gun laws to see how that's going so far.
Politicians: ...Please don't.
Tbh, i dont have the feeling it is specifically the gun laws that are failing. European nations proof something likewise
Glad I'm not the only one who thinks the political morons (now referred to as snowflakes) are the biggest cause for this crap show. I mean, when your government contains a senile dementia personification, a call-girl, an alcoholic or 20, old gangster princesses, a craft cocktail bartender, and in general, 400+ people who haven't and probably won't produce a single useful product or useful service for society, what do you expect? All these pricks care about is getting their 15 second appearance in the limelight, and getting a cushy pension for screwing things up for years. Also, they need to engage brain and read before opening their mouths. Read the laws and bills already in place and then see if a new one is even warranted. Their philosophy is, "Oh Hell, the basement is flooding? Quick lets dig the basement deeper."
This is why when I moved into my new place when the safe was carried in it was covered. I also tell no one what I have. Locked up in safe is best place until shtf.