If I had a nickel for every water themed card in a card game that set the costs of specific cards in both players hands to a symmetrical amount therefore providing both mana cheat and disruption I would have two nickels which isn't a lot but its weird that it happened twice.
The fact that the dragon upgrades on EACH turn, it means it’s a 2 mana Spot the Difference on 4 and a 2 mana Razzle Dazzler, the 7 mana Naga, on 5. Looks kinda strong to me.
I can only assume it's meant to be some kind of token/taunt support. Trouble is you need to be well above 5 mana to fill the board enough for it to be meaningful.
Meh. It is not even this good... It won't win the game, better play 1000 damaging spells that target only enemy, and then smh grt a Malygos from the hand or any other big spell damage, and just otk the enemy...
eliza is such a good unholy card that isent unholy. double or even tripple unholy would have fit so much more and its sad how hard rainbow is being pushed
ye i believe they changed this during playtesting, making her close to unplayable just due to her runes. only unholy wants this kind of effect, and her having both other runes is just a slap in the face
@@dariusfafoutakis8021This isn't the case, Shudderblock's text reads "Your next battlecry triggers 3 times, but can't *damage* the enemy hero." So even non-targeted damage won't work. It works with Kalimos because that card casts a spell that then does the damage to the enemy hero, but this new Shaman legendary won't work
Not that random of an exception, the battlecry reads "cast an elemental evocation" not "deal x damage", so technically the battlecry itself isn't dealing damage
Considering the card effects and performance, it doesn't make sense that Ranger Gilly costs 6 and Mistah Vistah costs 5. At least the two should swap costs so that Gilly costs 5 and Vistah costs 6.
druids tourist is the best one by a significant margin: you ramp into him -> play 6 mana ramp and armor spells -> in 3 turns you gain 30 and have 3 3/7 on board. and if you draw him later into the game, then you probably already stabilized and winning. the card is just nuts also aranna is pure garbage. it's only playable in fatigue deck and it's best shot is outcast fatigue dh, but you don't have any tools to stabilize or win over tempo with (no 0 mana 5/5s). and griftah is most likely to be the best neutral legendary of the set: 4 mana thaurissan is nuts for any combo deck (naga dh in particular looks to be insane in this set), and even if you wiff on mana cheat you can just chose damage or draw instead
Im actually getting excited for this expansion, maybe its because its something new, but i think a lot of these legendaries can push new decks into a really stale meta.
Incindius control priest. Using a control priest shell, you try to get and play as many copies of Incindius as possible. Assuming each one gets killed on the spot and doesn't trigger a second time, and that the end of turn effect only works on eruptions currently in your deck, you get: 10 damage with the first one. 15 more on the second one (assuming you don't draw any eruption). 20 more on the third one (assuming you don't draw any eruption). That's 45 damage sitting in your deck, waiting to happen. And the more Incindius you manage to play, the more stupid this gets. Even if you whiff by drawing it early and thus losing on Creation Protocol, you could Shattered Reflections one back into your deck with some mana cheating. Also that means that the turn you use Shattered Reflections you get two end of turn effects. Also I can't wait to see Mark make OTK decks in wild. (Or even in standard, on an empty deck, with Shudderblock, it's 30 damage at the start of your next turn.
Bro... you are insane to even joke about that. 2014 had legendaries so laughably bad that AFK looks good by comparison. Bro's comparing tech drawing 1 of each spell school in your deck for 5 mana WITH a 5/5 body to good ol' Nat Pagle. AND the card lets you "cheat" the game's deck restrictions and lets you use Shaman cards from this set. If the Shaman cards are garbage, that's not Buttons' fault lol. Or the 4 mana 4/3 deathrattle, which would have been bonkers strong last year, and frankly still seems decent. All those tokens DK summons, including their Hero Power, gets significantly stronger with each tick of that card's effect. You used to pay 3 mana for Priest's "deal 2 damage" HP, and 6 mana for Justicar Trueheart's "Upgrade your HP" effect. This does that better than both of those cards, AND buffs every single minion DK puts on the board. They aren't the flashiest cards ever, and frankly, I'm a bit disappointed too. But not because the cards are bad. These cards are "good" in a meta where, if you aren't pushing to win the game by turn 7 or 8, you've probably already lost, or hell, would have already won if playing a hardcore control deck instead of running these legendaries. But as Rarran said... I feel that Eliza easily slips into Rainbow DK. Will it be Tier 1? Ha, no. But ungodly awful like some of the 2014 legendaries? Nah, chief.
Imagine going through a whole 10 year anniversary and not even breaking out a new class or anything. That’s ok, we have Great Value Gadgetzan (with Pirates!) for another 3 months
i dont plan on playing this expansion beyond building a fun meme shaman deck with incindius, patches the pilot, shudderblock, wish upon a star, hagatha, and the evolve spell. the early game will consist of totem spam, hero power centric, to find the spell dmg totem for the incindius eruptions to get multipliers. I will be constantly clearing my own board with control spells like volcanic eruption, or seismic quake, the fire and nature symetrical boardwipes that shaman has, so I shouldnt be accidentally stuffing my own board too much when I use my gaslight gatekeepers to draw ten cards in one turn and activate a ton of "cast on draw" cards.
Aranna is NOT demon seed. If oponent has a board, it will soak the damage and if you don't lethal on the turn, you lost because you have no card left. I don't why you're concerned so much about DH who has been at the bottom of the tier list most of the time since festival of legends. The build with patches and pirates looks way more promising and stable.
aFk effectively reads “when you play a minion, give it +2/+2”, because a minion usually doesn’t attack the turn it’s played. Still pretty bad for 5 mana
Hey I'm very new to Heartstone... I tried wild but it was way more competitive... BUT I like the old cards I see in videos like the quests and stuff... any tips for beginners? I can't seem to get XP either for mercenaries game mode.. I win battle but nothing else happens??
I think there isn’t as much hype because most players know that after the expansion settles it’ll still just be seeing Reno and Yogg every game, just with a few different cards added in
what would happen if you pick multiple tourist cards? like for example the first minutes, you as a death knight can pick buttons and then could pick carefree cookie? im asking if that is posible
Im pretty confident incindius will be trash it relys on way to many things, first its 6 mana do nothing, it relys on actually drawing the eruptions(i don't think running the 4 mana tutor is worth it), it relys on the enemy deck being board centric which in recent years is uncommon and if it is the case you actually fill your deck with 5 not great cards. the eruptions do hit face but I'm assuming most decks running 2/10 are going to be slow decks and so the face damage wont matter to much. if you get incindius vs a board based deck and you draw the eruptions and 2 dmg is enough to clear their board/he lives for a turn it would be good but it doesn't seem to common of a situation to warrant running the card.
Rarren seems pretty big on Lynessa but I just don't see her working out. Is Lynessa as the sole payoff for a cheap spell paladin deck really enough to kick handbuff out of the number one spot and stomp down the rest of the competition?
Lynessa has alot of things going for it. The sun screens becomes +2/+4 for 1, glowsticks would be doubled, some other paladin spells are happy to have it. If you use the rouge cards Eudora - has treasures that work with it. snatch and grab - you can discount it to kill 4 minions. Conniving conman - can repeat the rouge cards again. Metal detector - the coins double proc Sea shill can reduce the costs of your paladin cards Oh manager - gets you 4 damage and 4 mana. Petty theft - you get 4 spells that then can copy also.
Incidius is going to be crazy in Reno paladin, playing multiple of them with the mirage will definitely be a good win condition Ps: king tide on turn 9 potentially allows you to cheat 15 mana
Nah warrior will use it best. You have managerie tutor draw and you can deck yourself easily. Voone copies incindius and a zola sudenly you can play 4 of them in a row doing 10 aoe each time
He put her in F-TIER?! Rarren this better be for engagement! The fact that there are so many infinite taunt decks with Druid AND Warrior, the fact that you can sandwich AFK into a 2 mana card that fills your board the fact that AFK is actually a 2/7 cuz she buffs herself. I cannot see a world where she is F Tier. But hey I guess I may have my own opinion and so do you. Love the vids
incindius feels so well balanced, everybody can imagine how he can be broken, but you kinda need way to shuffle more than 5 times and ways to copy him or have him stick around fro more than 1 turn, because to be really broken you need like 15 times 2 or 10 times 3 damage in the deck^^
You should've started A. F. Kay off in the A tier. Then later on in the video change your mind and put her in the F tier then even later on in the video change your mind again and create the K tier and put her in there.
Wait so, I know this is probably not a thing, but if I put say, the demon hunter cards in shaman cause of the tourist, then put Aranna in your shaman deck…you can’t then put priest cards in your shaman deck because of aranna, right?
I think depending on if the DK legendary is an aura or a buff will determine how good it is. If it is an aura its gonna be broken. Suddenly all of the small minions DK can make become fucking menaces.
@@oscarmeldgaard5407 How is this any better than just handbuff DK which generates way more stats much faster. Yeah sure your hero power gets better, and some token summoning, but tokens rarely go face, and hero powering is rarely the best thing to do
@@vgcatharsis9480 because handcuffs have to be in your hand. It is also great with a lot of the stronger do cards like mining accident, any of the unholy plagues, and pretty much anything that summons anything. It buffs zilliax, primus, toysnatching giant, chained guardian, pile of bones, any life steal and reborn cards too
2:35 you're already wrong she's 5 whole mana, it's not near combo enough and you can't play it tempo cause it will be snapp-killed, I think she is bottom of B tier
@@brandenharder6378 Ourobos is only technically a token. You're never playing Vona for Vona, she's incredibly understatted, a lone 4/4 is not threatening at all. Dealing with Ourobos with a silence or bounce is not hard at all, and can be pretty cheap to do, especially compared with a conditional 6 mana battlecry. Not to mention that he's only really relevant in slower matchups a lot of the time, and slower matchups means Yogg and Reno are a universal presence.
@MinoriGaming You're misunderstanding my point about value trading. If you both spend the same number of cards and mana in the interaction, but afterwards you still have the 4/4 that's going up. Maybe you'd be screwed if your whole deck was built around ourobouros, but like objectively speaking its a lot of stats for the cost and its two bodies for removal. I play something, then you kill it, but it made another thing you also have to kill.
incindius seems so incredibly slow, 6 mana chunky boy for potentially dealing 10 dmg to all enemies throughout the game? i mean that’s value but idk how impactful it’s gonna be
AFK u put in token decks bro. think about it as a second zilliax that is constant 5 mana but parmanent +2/+2 when dropped. now, any deck can have a mass board buff. think about it like the paladin 5 mana buff everything +2/+2, except it has a body0/5, must be immediately removed, but the penalty is that ur tokens cant attack the turn its buffed. Imagine mage drops this followed by the 3/2 board fill. thats instant 0/5 plus six 5/4
AFK is busted and I don't understand how people don't see that. If she ever gets copied, the game is over on the spot. If you play a bunch of tokens i.e. dragon priest or any paladin deck or treant druid or any shaman deck, AFK pumps those decks up so fast it's not even funny. Even outside of those decks, she's a 5 mama "give every minion you play +2/+2" unless it has rush or charge. Seeing as the new druid ramp spells that cap out your mana to like what, 16? You can do some nutty shit with this. Oh, and it can be played in warrior. So yeah, were going to live in a world where Singleton warrior is going to be able to play their dig reward, AFK, and still have like 3 mana left over to bounce the dig reward or play shield block or Reno hero power or something. This card is from my nightmares. It will break the game and get nerfed to 4 mana +1/+1.
I don't think Aranna is actually all that good. it's a 5-mana combo card thats a bit too difficult to work with, maybe with fatigue, but I think that takes too long to be the main win condition. It would be cool if Warglaives were back in standard (other than Ci'Cigi) or some other way to smack your face multiple times in a turn, but even then, its dependent on your opponent's board and I feel like control warrior is probably going to be one of the top decks and they like to just sit back and clear the board the whole time. Using rock duel and letting it hit yourself would be kinda fun, IDK about good though. Could be wrong I just don't think there's enough support for it yet.
''im kinda over the evolve mechanic'' - i dont play the game anymore since i uninstalled all blizzard games after the blitzchung ban, but evolve shaman is the only thing i miss, probably my favorite arctype out of every cardgame
@@barcster2003 druid gonna ramp into him, gain 30 armor, play 6 mana ramp, and in three turns you gonna face another gain 30 and a board of 3/7 taunts. imo probably the best class legendary of this set
Ngl I stopped playing Hearthstone a long time ago because it was too expensive to play. I returned a couple years ago and I stopped again half a year ago because... It's too expensive to play
You summed up the lack of interest in this set with Paladin. Why play this, when something seemingly better exists? Paladin still has handbuff/swarm decks, DK will likely stick with Plagues, etc. There are a few exceptions, but I feel like the majority of classes will slot in a card or two from the set.
The lack of Chillhouse Manastorm is very sad
If I had a nickel for every water themed card in a card game that set the costs of specific cards in both players hands to a symmetrical amount therefore providing both mana cheat and disruption I would have two nickels which isn't a lot but its weird that it happened twice.
And if you count naga sea witch it is three nickels
ye that 100% is wave, they didnt even hide it by making him surfing a wave xD
@@nogai2296 Wasn't it sand witch that did that?
Why do we always have to wake up, honey? Why can't we just go to sleep for once?! Really could help me out as an insomniac 😂
You’ve been in a coma for months, your children miss you. Please wake up, honey.
rarran: druid has by far the best cards this expansion
Also rarran: loses to day 9 with druid vs warrior after summoning 487 greyboughs
All the classes seemingly can do silly plays. I just realized how crazy those pack cards are going to be in sandwich.
Rarran: *Sees any shade of dark green on a card*
Also Rarran: *Heavy Breathing*
Rarran: *sees feet*
Also Rarran: *Heavier breathing*
The fact that the dragon upgrades on EACH turn, it means it’s a 2 mana Spot the Difference on 4 and a 2 mana Razzle Dazzler, the 7 mana Naga, on 5. Looks kinda strong to me.
- Am I an A?
- No, F.
- ‘Kay :(
I can only assume it's meant to be some kind of token/taunt support. Trouble is you need to be well above 5 mana to fill the board enough for it to be meaningful.
in magic pixie dream land : mistah vistah into ramp with +3 max mana twice, and clone them again, and you're not dead, you have 34 mana.
Meh. It is not even this good... It won't win the game, better play 1000 damaging spells that target only enemy, and then smh grt a Malygos from the hand or any other big spell damage, and just otk the enemy...
eliza is such a good unholy card that isent unholy. double or even tripple unholy would have fit so much more and its sad how hard rainbow is being pushed
Eliza is too good an unholy card.
ye i believe they changed this during playtesting, making her close to unplayable just due to her runes. only unholy wants this kind of effect, and her having both other runes is just a slap in the face
@@Nightknight1992 its because they dont want to put in the work to even try to support anything that isent rainbow dk
OK, but think for a second how nuts Incindius would be with Mesa'dune...A lot of upgraded eruptions
alright deck intro time
it would insidious to do that with incindius
Sounds really bad tbh id rather get the elemental that freezes and gives me armor
Shuderblock can't hit face with the shaman legendary😮💨😮💨
The new card can because its original battlecry is direct to the enemy. Shudderblock can do this. It can not allow targeting.
@@dariusfafoutakis8021 shudderblock prevents damage to face
@@dariusfafoutakis8021This isn't the case, Shudderblock's text reads "Your next battlecry triggers 3 times, but can't *damage* the enemy hero." So even non-targeted damage won't work.
It works with Kalimos because that card casts a spell that then does the damage to the enemy hero, but this new Shaman legendary won't work
@@dariusfafoutakis8021 delete, your confidence is cringe
@@fearghalreid162except for when it doesn’t like with Kalimos
5:40 don't worry, Shudderblock prevents damage to face (random exception is the invoke the elements hero card)
Not that random of an exception, the battlecry reads "cast an elemental evocation" not "deal x damage", so technically the battlecry itself isn't dealing damage
@@eminayr interesting. I guess that makes sense. Thanks for the clarification
Considering the card effects and performance, it doesn't make sense that Ranger Gilly costs 6 and Mistah Vistah costs 5.
At least the two should swap costs so that Gilly costs 5 and Vistah costs 6.
druids tourist is the best one by a significant margin: you ramp into him -> play 6 mana ramp and armor spells -> in 3 turns you gain 30 and have 3 3/7 on board. and if you draw him later into the game, then you probably already stabilized and winning. the card is just nuts
also aranna is pure garbage. it's only playable in fatigue deck and it's best shot is outcast fatigue dh, but you don't have any tools to stabilize or win over tempo with (no 0 mana 5/5s). and griftah is most likely to be the best neutral legendary of the set: 4 mana thaurissan is nuts for any combo deck (naga dh in particular looks to be insane in this set), and even if you wiff on mana cheat you can just chose damage or draw instead
@ 17:44 (gets called a dumba**) (exits fullscreen to like the video and then full-screens again to keep watching)
This set is lookin really fun. I had my doubts on the theme when it was first announced but I dig
Im actually getting excited for this expansion, maybe its because its something new, but i think a lot of these legendaries can push new decks into a really stale meta.
I do like the new theme pushes is exciting.
Incindius control priest.
Using a control priest shell, you try to get and play as many copies of Incindius as possible.
Assuming each one gets killed on the spot and doesn't trigger a second time, and that the end of turn effect only works on eruptions currently in your deck, you get:
10 damage with the first one.
15 more on the second one (assuming you don't draw any eruption).
20 more on the third one (assuming you don't draw any eruption).
That's 45 damage sitting in your deck, waiting to happen.
And the more Incindius you manage to play, the more stupid this gets.
Even if you whiff by drawing it early and thus losing on Creation Protocol, you could Shattered Reflections one back into your deck with some mana cheating. Also that means that the turn you use Shattered Reflections you get two end of turn effects.
Also I can't wait to see Mark make OTK decks in wild. (Or even in standard, on an empty deck, with Shudderblock, it's 30 damage at the start of your next turn.
Heres to me hoping that Incindius is the freebie legendary. It's going to be such a fun card to build around.
DK got the 2014 legendary cards
nahh
Bro... you are insane to even joke about that. 2014 had legendaries so laughably bad that AFK looks good by comparison. Bro's comparing tech drawing 1 of each spell school in your deck for 5 mana WITH a 5/5 body to good ol' Nat Pagle. AND the card lets you "cheat" the game's deck restrictions and lets you use Shaman cards from this set. If the Shaman cards are garbage, that's not Buttons' fault lol.
Or the 4 mana 4/3 deathrattle, which would have been bonkers strong last year, and frankly still seems decent. All those tokens DK summons, including their Hero Power, gets significantly stronger with each tick of that card's effect. You used to pay 3 mana for Priest's "deal 2 damage" HP, and 6 mana for Justicar Trueheart's "Upgrade your HP" effect. This does that better than both of those cards, AND buffs every single minion DK puts on the board.
They aren't the flashiest cards ever, and frankly, I'm a bit disappointed too. But not because the cards are bad. These cards are "good" in a meta where, if you aren't pushing to win the game by turn 7 or 8, you've probably already lost, or hell, would have already won if playing a hardcore control deck instead of running these legendaries. But as Rarran said... I feel that Eliza easily slips into Rainbow DK. Will it be Tier 1? Ha, no. But ungodly awful like some of the 2014 legendaries? Nah, chief.
@@thetaintedbear4557 bro yappin in the coms. Just saying it's boring
i aint readin allat
@@DiscoPatrolSuperstarDancer Boring cards are in every. Single. Set. Just saying get over it :)
Imagine going through a whole 10 year anniversary and not even breaking out a new class or anything. That’s ok, we have Great Value Gadgetzan (with Pirates!) for another 3 months
Can't wait until Rarran reviews he's own review in 5 years from now
17:00 Great call Raran :)
i dont plan on playing this expansion beyond building a fun meme shaman deck with incindius, patches the pilot, shudderblock, wish upon a star, hagatha, and the evolve spell. the early game will consist of totem spam, hero power centric, to find the spell dmg totem for the incindius eruptions to get multipliers. I will be constantly clearing my own board with control spells like volcanic eruption, or seismic quake, the fire and nature symetrical boardwipes that shaman has, so I shouldnt be accidentally stuffing my own board too much when I use my gaslight gatekeepers to draw ten cards in one turn and activate a ton of "cast on draw" cards.
Incindius with shudderblock in a tribal elemental deck is going to be nice. Not good necessarily, but nice.
Sand castle is so f crazy! Paladin is my main class so I'm kinda happy about it but at the same time I don't want my game to be broken
Every class seemingly got crazy stuff.
Would be fun to return here maybe when the mini set gets announced, to see how things turned out.
chillin voljin + hunter death roll lethal is going to happen
AFK+Colifero=12/12 stats in all minions at the end of the turn
unbelievable hopium
Mby just me but aranna seems pretty awful
Its 5 mana. Even at turn 10 thats half your turn
How do you plan on using the effect at that point?
5:30 No one tell him about Shudderblock "but can't damage enemy hero". However, shudderblock works well with eruptions.
@runixc2915 how funny would it be though if the eruptions couldn't hit the enemy hero if you shudderblock them
5:30 ish: Rarran, Shudderblock states that the copied battlecries can't damage the enemy hero.
I'm wondering about Sanc'Azel. If it transforms into a location and then back in the same turn can it attack again?
I heard somewhere that no, it can't.
It is said that it can attack only once after transforming, similar to the legendary warrior weapon we had in previous expansions
The fact that tourist cards got flavor text at all is insane. Imagine renethal or baku with flavor text?!
Aranna is NOT demon seed. If oponent has a board, it will soak the damage and if you don't lethal on the turn, you lost because you have no card left.
I don't why you're concerned so much about DH who has been at the bottom of the tier list most of the time since festival of legends. The build with patches and pirates looks way more promising and stable.
aFk effectively reads “when you play a minion, give it +2/+2”, because a minion usually doesn’t attack the turn it’s played. Still pretty bad for 5 mana
Shudderblock says your next battlecry triggers 3 times but cannot damage enemy heroes
Hey I'm very new to Heartstone... I tried wild but it was way more competitive... BUT I like the old cards I see in videos like the quests and stuff... any tips for beginners? I can't seem to get XP either for mercenaries game mode.. I win battle but nothing else happens??
I think there isn’t as much hype because most players know that after the expansion settles it’ll still just be seeing Reno and Yogg every game, just with a few different cards added in
AF Kay looks good when you have 10 mana and cheap minions that have summoning sickness but that just doesn't really happen!
Hunter going to get to replay Grifftahs amulets with the parrot
Shudderblock’s effect prohibits damage? What was Rarran cooking with the naga?
what would happen if you pick multiple tourist cards? like for example the first minutes, you as a death knight can pick buttons and then could pick carefree cookie? im asking if that is posible
PLEASE GET COVERGOBLUE TO PREDICT THE META BASED OFF OF THESE CARDS
Α moment of silence for those who open a.f.k as their first legendary
Can’t wait for Shaman decks to be like half Demon Hunter cards.
You can't use Shudderblock with Carress to deal damage.
Im pretty confident incindius will be trash it relys on way to many things, first its 6 mana do nothing, it relys on actually drawing the eruptions(i don't think running the 4 mana tutor is worth it), it relys on the enemy deck being board centric which in recent years is uncommon and if it is the case you actually fill your deck with 5 not great cards. the eruptions do hit face but I'm assuming most decks running 2/10 are going to be slow decks and so the face damage wont matter to much. if you get incindius vs a board based deck and you draw the eruptions and 2 dmg is enough to clear their board/he lives for a turn it would be good but it doesn't seem to common of a situation to warrant running the card.
gas is back on the menu bois
Rarren seems pretty big on Lynessa but I just don't see her working out. Is Lynessa as the sole payoff for a cheap spell paladin deck really enough to kick handbuff out of the number one spot and stomp down the rest of the competition?
Lynessa has alot of things going for it.
The sun screens becomes +2/+4 for 1, glowsticks would be doubled, some other paladin spells are happy to have it.
If you use the rouge cards
Eudora - has treasures that work with it.
snatch and grab - you can discount it to kill 4 minions.
Conniving conman - can repeat the rouge cards again.
Metal detector - the coins double proc
Sea shill can reduce the costs of your paladin cards
Oh manager - gets you 4 damage and 4 mana.
Petty theft - you get 4 spells that then can copy also.
"Does it die to Reno?" Should be a criteria for judging these
I dont play DH often but when I do I always hope to queue into Rarren :)
Incidius is going to be crazy in Reno paladin, playing multiple of them with the mirage will definitely be a good win condition
Ps: king tide on turn 9 potentially allows you to cheat 15 mana
Nah warrior will use it best. You have managerie tutor draw and you can deck yourself easily. Voone copies incindius and a zola sudenly you can play 4 of them in a row doing 10 aoe each time
Also in Shaman because of Shudderblock
Watching vid
Getting to Chillin Voljin
"Oh hi Mark"
*realisation*
Love these videos! Hope to see them every expansion!
He put her in F-TIER?! Rarren this better be for engagement! The fact that there are so many infinite taunt decks with Druid AND Warrior, the fact that you can sandwich AFK into a 2 mana card that fills your board the fact that AFK is actually a 2/7 cuz she buffs herself. I cannot see a world where she is F Tier. But hey I guess I may have my own opinion and so do you. Love the vids
She doesn't buff herself. It says "All other friendly minions"
putting AF Kay in a sandwich is peak Disneyland scenario. Also she doesn’t buff herself. Read the card.
If you could run Mistah Vistah in Mage it would be insane with lightshow
Just realized you can bring back Sancazel with Tyr
I also had the thought can Lora roll the Sanc'azel location?
@@barcster2003in the same way remornia is not a weapon, no sanc’azel can not be generated in location form.
@@sqentontheslime1967 bummer I thought about that for a help to Lora.
The Ryecleaver is the biggest bait I've seen in my life, so sad Rarran still falls for it.
Shudder + incindious could be fun
incindius feels so well balanced, everybody can imagine how he can be broken, but you kinda need way to shuffle more than 5 times and ways to copy him or have him stick around fro more than 1 turn, because to be really broken you need like 15 times 2 or 10 times 3 damage in the deck^^
Maestra can't discover Scabbs.
You should've started A. F. Kay off in the A tier. Then later on in the video change your mind and put her in the F tier then even later on in the video change your mind again and create the K tier and put her in there.
Lynessa in B tier... aged like fine milk
Wait so, I know this is probably not a thing, but if I put say, the demon hunter cards in shaman cause of the tourist, then put Aranna in your shaman deck…you can’t then put priest cards in your shaman deck because of aranna, right?
Nah, When they revealed them they specified you could only use one tourist per deck.
And of course AFK is the diamond card you get with the rewards track.
Should have been the vendor.
I think depending on if the DK legendary is an aura or a buff will determine how good it is. If it is an aura its gonna be broken. Suddenly all of the small minions DK can make become fucking menaces.
It is an aura, even the hero power ghouls get a +1
@@sqentontheslime1967 Isn't it just fucking s tier then? Like there are so many ways to cheat out shitters in DK
@@oscarmeldgaard5407 How is this any better than just handbuff DK which generates way more stats much faster.
Yeah sure your hero power gets better, and some token summoning, but tokens rarely go face, and hero powering is rarely the best thing to do
@@vgcatharsis9480 because handcuffs have to be in your hand. It is also great with a lot of the stronger do cards like mining accident, any of the unholy plagues, and pretty much anything that summons anything. It buffs zilliax, primus, toysnatching giant, chained guardian, pile of bones, any life steal and reborn cards too
"ramp might be too slow in Warrior".Isn't Warrior still the only class that can afford to just hero power and pass?
2:35 you're already wrong she's 5 whole mana, it's not near combo enough and you can't play it tempo cause it will be snapp-killed, I think she is bottom of B tier
Ourobos feels really bad to me. Too many things can go wrong that break the Ourobos chain permanently
Yeah but making them soend resources to do that is good interaction
In some ways, yes, but a single bounce or silence can completely remove Obouros from the game.
@MinoriGaming yeah but then they're minusing since it was a token. You played 2 cards for 1 and they used 1 to deal with one of those
@@brandenharder6378 Ourobos is only technically a token. You're never playing Vona for Vona, she's incredibly understatted, a lone 4/4 is not threatening at all. Dealing with Ourobos with a silence or bounce is not hard at all, and can be pretty cheap to do, especially compared with a conditional 6 mana battlecry. Not to mention that he's only really relevant in slower matchups a lot of the time, and slower matchups means Yogg and Reno are a universal presence.
@MinoriGaming You're misunderstanding my point about value trading. If you both spend the same number of cards and mana in the interaction, but afterwards you still have the 4/4 that's going up. Maybe you'd be screwed if your whole deck was built around ourobouros, but like objectively speaking its a lot of stats for the cost and its two bodies for removal. I play something, then you kill it, but it made another thing you also have to kill.
incindius seems so incredibly slow, 6 mana chunky boy for potentially dealing 10 dmg to all enemies throughout the game? i mean that’s value but idk how impactful it’s gonna be
Idk why A.F. Kay looks like a fun card to me haha I’d like to figure out some annoying taunt minion never dying board.
looking for a standoff? careful! it's against me!
AFK u put in token decks bro. think about it as a second zilliax that is constant 5 mana but parmanent +2/+2 when dropped. now, any deck can have a mass board buff. think about it like the paladin 5 mana buff everything +2/+2, except it has a body0/5, must be immediately removed, but the penalty is that ur tokens cant attack the turn its buffed. Imagine mage drops this followed by the 3/2 board fill. thats instant 0/5 plus six 5/4
AFK is busted and I don't understand how people don't see that. If she ever gets copied, the game is over on the spot. If you play a bunch of tokens i.e. dragon priest or any paladin deck or treant druid or any shaman deck, AFK pumps those decks up so fast it's not even funny. Even outside of those decks, she's a 5 mama "give every minion you play +2/+2" unless it has rush or charge.
Seeing as the new druid ramp spells that cap out your mana to like what, 16? You can do some nutty shit with this. Oh, and it can be played in warrior. So yeah, were going to live in a world where Singleton warrior is going to be able to play their dig reward, AFK, and still have like 3 mana left over to bounce the dig reward or play shield block or Reno hero power or something.
This card is from my nightmares. It will break the game and get nerfed to 4 mana +1/+1.
Yo shudderblock does face damage now according to rarran.
in handlock the ouroboros will be so good 2 8/8 per giant! and by round 6 he would already be ready to go
I don't think Aranna is actually all that good. it's a 5-mana combo card thats a bit too difficult to work with, maybe with fatigue, but I think that takes too long to be the main win condition. It would be cool if Warglaives were back in standard (other than Ci'Cigi) or some other way to smack your face multiple times in a turn, but even then, its dependent on your opponent's board and I feel like control warrior is probably going to be one of the top decks and they like to just sit back and clear the board the whole time. Using rock duel and letting it hit yourself would be kinda fun, IDK about good though. Could be wrong I just don't think there's enough support for it yet.
Wrong even just attacking something big with your hero power works.
@@barcster2003 that still depends on what your opponent plays and they're not always going to play something big.
dear @rarehn its pronounced "OUR-O-BOS" not "OUR-O-BO-ROS"
''im kinda over the evolve mechanic'' - i dont play the game anymore since i uninstalled all blizzard games after the blitzchung ban, but evolve shaman is the only thing i miss, probably my favorite arctype out of every cardgame
I can't be the only one who wishes renathal was still in standard. With tourists the deckbuilding possibilities would be so good
Rarran sleeping on A. F. Kay
There isn't as much hype because there was no cinematic or ad by blizzard. The cards are solid.
Elemental mage will probably run the tourist
This set is both gonna be fun to experiment and absolutely disgusting in meta climbing.
If Aranna is good even though it is obnoxiously massive power decreep on Stormwind, then wow Stormwind was something.
Aranna isn't powercreep on Stormwind at all.
How is Mista Vista lower than Griftah?
Probably an avalibility of good spells sort of thing
does nothing the turn it's played
@@dans3369 that alone doesn't necissarily mean much if the pay off is really good.
People are discounting Mista Vista. They are going to be crying when he casts like 30 mana worth of spells.
@@barcster2003 druid gonna ramp into him, gain 30 armor, play 6 mana ramp, and in three turns you gonna face another gain 30 and a board of 3/7 taunts. imo probably the best class legendary of this set
The A. F. Kay slander is crazy.
I actually think it's usable.
@@barcster2003 how?
Rarran, how many times do I have to tell you that your engagement-baiting with the feet comments isn't going to wor--
Gotta bring back steamcleaner for incindius
Im not super hype for the expansion cause i feel the meta is gonna be miserable. In my opinion theres a high chance this will become stormwind 2.0
He said shelf just like voxy taught him
Druids gonna have lot of mana those 7 mana won't matter
All shows need a beach episode and this is Hearthstone's beach episode
Vona is absurdly strong in Pain Warlock, i hit legend from last possible rank in 1 day :D real scummy deck, i had 14 games win streak :D
5:38 so it wouldn't do that because shudderblock removes hero damage
Cool thing about this set is that, if a class got shit cards, at least you can play with someone else's lol
Ngl I stopped playing Hearthstone a long time ago because it was too expensive to play.
I returned a couple years ago and I stopped again half a year ago because... It's too expensive to play
[insert feet joke for the algorithm]
can somone explain me the key word touriste because i dont understant propreli
You summed up the lack of interest in this set with Paladin. Why play this, when something seemingly better exists? Paladin still has handbuff/swarm decks, DK will likely stick with Plagues, etc. There are a few exceptions, but I feel like the majority of classes will slot in a card or two from the set.
Incinius + Shutterwalk may be a little to good in wild imo.