Classic Reboot: Understanding The Trial by Franz Kafka with Jason Reza Jorjani
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- Jason Reza Jorjani is a philosopher and author of Prometheus and Atlas, World State of Emergency, Lovers of Sophia, and Novel Folklore: The Blind Owl of Sadegh Hedayat.
Here he describes the important plot threads of Franz Kafka's posthumously published novel. The main character seems to be trapped in a nightmarish scenario, in which he is put through a mysterious legal proceding, from which he cannot seem to escape. Jorjani elucidates several important folklore and mythological references. Ultimately, he believes that the protagonist is trapped inside of his own inability to take himself less seriously.
Edited subtitles for this video are available in Russian, Portuguese, Italian, German, French, and Spanish.
New Thinking Allowed host, Jeffrey Mishlove, PhD, is author of The Roots of Consciousness, Psi Development Systems, and The PK Man. Between 1986 and 2002 he hosted and co-produced the original Thinking Allowed public television series. He is the recipient of the only doctoral diploma in "parapsychology" ever awarded by an accredited university (University of California, Berkeley, 1980). He is also the Grand Prize winner of the 2021 Bigelow Institute essay competition regarding the best evidence for survival of human consciousness after permanent bodily death.
(Recorded on April 6, 2018)
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Please, restore all the great discussions you had with Jason. It's the right thing to do.
Theres a video of him advocating genocide of europe's muslim population.
Restore??? Did they go missing? They're all up, last I checked.
I wanted to say this too but your comment could not be improved!
I really liked your genocidal maniac disclosure video haha
I love Jason
You two alwayz display a brilliant chemistry of intellect and comprehensive understanding of every topic brought to the table and for this, I am alwayz grateful
jeffrey, your conversations with jason are among the deepest and most rewarding of an already wonderful channel. i hope you can renew your friendship and give us more conversations.
I have to agree. =3
Not sure if its a face or a *ick emoji....or too much deconstruction. @.@
I don’t imagine Jason would be able to look at him the same way and to look into Jason’s eyes would be to see Jeffery’s conscience. Jason’s courage in 2023 would only shine more light on Jeffery’s intense fear and need for safety and security.
I want to hear more of Jorjani on the time-travelling Nordic people that live in the hollow moon. Fascinating stuff.
Wot?
😂😂
I believe it's important to note that Kafka worked as a Worker's Compensation Adjudicator, a legal bureaucrat. He would make decisions on if a worker received financial compensation, and how much. I had a similar job. It's the first and lowest level of the judicial system. I think this experience infuses Kafka's writing far more than most readers realize. As an adjudicator, you pass judgement on others, and you are judged (often harshly) by your superiors, and the system in general. This system is brutal on all involved, as it involves money, pain and suffering, and the laws of the land as dictated by the state and the courts.
PH 2468 ...............you are sending people and institutions on a judged path ???
@@dannycalley7777 I’m not sending anyone on any path. The system Kafka worked for, settling worker injury claims using legal procedures, likely affected his stories. I think you misunderstood my point.
It's sad the Jorjani interviews stopped I hope they can resume one day
Yay Jorjani. I don't always agree with him but find his perspective valuable. That makes for the best kinds of dialogues if you ask me
In rewatching I remember just how much I liked that Jason Riza Jorjani was Jeffery's only guest who would always look towards us, the audience, at the end just as Jeffery does.
When I finished The Trial a few years ago for the first time I discovered this excellent discussion shortly after which has led me down many paths thanks to Jorjani and Mishlove. Thankyou for reposting.
I hope things can one day be mended amongst the both of you 🙏
I forgot about this guy. Jason is one of those people where you can bring up a myriad of topics to have a conversation with and he has a depth of knowledge in most that few have.
Can you please repost the episode where you and Jorjani discuss breakaway civilizations? I can't find that in your back catalog, but it seems so relevant these days!
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The Trial is my favorite Kafka book. It felt like a nightmare that i didn't know how i got there in the first place. Kafka really captured that disoriented feeling like no other author has come close
Kafka's "The Process" and "Metamorphosis" are the templates and molds for the genres like the Twilight Zone, but with a social and civil impact and practical insight on human rights (due process) and the (judicial) law. Due Process is a fundamental principle embodying justice and fairness, ensuring individuals receive fair treatment and procedural safeguards. Kafka's novel, "The Process," delves into the complexities of this concept, sparking philosophical contemplations on justice, the human condition, and the preservation of fundamental rights within legal systems. It reminds us of the moral imperative to protect against the abuse of power and highlights the significance of timely and efficient proceedings that uphold human dignity.
Jason, your recent "incendiary ideas" videos were excellent!
This is fantastic. Thanks
I for one was happy to see this reboot. I don't agree with Jason on a variety of points and 'issues', but he is very knowledgeable, well-read, a genuinely interesting person, and I believe good-natured too. Frankly I agree with him more often than I disagree, especially when it comes to history, philosophy, and the esoteric aspects of science fiction, etc, etc. He was unfairly targeted early on, for not much more than having a vivid imagination, and NTA stepped in to give him a platform to speak, which led to some great conversations. If we take him at his word, as he said on NTA, that he was infiltrating the alt-right to steer it in a different direction, then being fired from his teaching position and blacklisted from academia was doubly counterproductive, as that would make him the secret ally of the very people who were attempting to expose him as a fascist, and also probably contributed to him becoming more radicalized in his thinking than he might have otherwise.
Dr. Mishlove, I hope this is a sign that you will be conversing with Jason again soon. So many people have had changes of heart in the last few years, it's been a wild time. I hope that time has cooled this disagreement.
What was the disagreement?
Very interesting, and very articulately presented. The connection to UFOs stands out as unexpected, makes me more curious about what they really are.
He's a big UFO guy. Only natural of your life's work to trickle in other areas of discussion when it's at the forefront of thought.
Great guest! Wonderful discussion 😊
Fantastic - thank you
thank you for re-uploading. it would be ultra- interesting, if you got more interpretation of Kafkas work..
Long time no see Jorjani, where he vanish
I read kafka years ago, but only just now was i struck by the way the world of The Trial also relates to the metaphysics of A Course in Miracles… i wont go into detail here but simply/ broadly, among other parallels, that there is no defence and nothing to defend in the unreal “house-of-mirrors” type of world we have made.
Interesting, have you read the law of one stuff?
Reminds me of the House Of Theater in Hesse's Steppenwolf. Kafka, Hesse, and Benjamin all ran in the same circles, so it is no surprise.
I'd love to see new conversations between you and Jason. I hope you restore what you had in these days.
An unexpected but welcome surprise!
Wonderful interview!
Hes back!
Jason is a bit kooky but he's very perceptive and learned and yes, do restore all the videos!
Love Dr. Jorjani❤
Very very interesting. Thank you!
What an articulate guy! Great discussion
Ah, my BFF Walter Benjamin was mentioned in this video and not many people talk about my hero! Walter Benjamin was a German-Jewish intellectual. Translated Kafka, Proust, and Baudelaire, wrote seminal works on the theory of the novel, and was foundational for the Frankfurt school of Marxist theory. You might know him from such essays as "The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction," "Theses on the Philosophy of History," "On Some Motifs in Baudelaire," or "The Task of the Translator."
Went to school with Rilke, good friends with Brecht, Arendt, Adorno, Hesse, Horkheimer.
He worked primarily in Paris and at the outset of the war he refused to leave with his colleagues for America because of his masterwork, The Arcades Project, which is so ahead of its time I can't even believe it. In any case, by ~1940 Paris wasn't a great place to be for a Jew, so he fled by train to Spain. At the border his train was stopped; the passengers spent the night at a nearby hotel. His body was discovered the next morning -- suicide.
He was post-modern before modernism was over, a Theorist before "Theory" even existed as a discipline. Like the other Jewish intellectuals of the early 20th-century he accessed a profound sadness that underpinned all of his works, but he wrote often about the messiah (as did Kafka, though people often forget that). Unrecognized before his death, and even today only recognized in certain academic circles, his work is immensely important for the way we critically approach texts, the way we approach translation of poetry, the way we regard art in this digital age...
He's one of my favorite human beings of all time, a huge personal hero and a daily inspiration. When I think about how his story ended I get extremely upset.
Not to take anything away from Kafka. His life was just as tragic in his own rights.
*_NO WAYYY WE GOT THE COMEBACK OF JEFFREY MISHLOVE AND JASON JORJANI BEFORE GTA6!_*
Your conversations with Jason are some of the very best. I understand that he's an eccentric, even controversial. Geniuses often are. Put your differences aside and work it out: the conversations are worth it.
I like Jason very much but i dont believe his statements about aliens, spies etc. I think he has created a character in order to attract attention towards his literary work.
Well, to be fair, if I were an alien or spy, I'd probably conatct Jason too, before conatcting some random farm workers lol
As an Iranian American my self I believe his resentment towards the current state of Iran although intense and perhaps misguided is entirely understandable. It’s not an easy pill to swallow to come from such a deep and unique culture and people for it to be completely transformed into a shell of its former self through regressive ideologies largely brought about by the diluting of its people and culture. His critiques on Chinese civilization and modern China are similarly reasonable and the simple act of him making a value judgment on it doesn’t make it bigotry. I imagine very few of us here would choose to leave the western world and move to China or Iran. This is a value judgment but that doesn’t make it hateful
Some isolated tribes have been recorded as engaging in human sacrifice and cannibalism.. Is it bigotry to denounce this aspect of their culture? Your critique of Jason is unjust
Thank you for bringing back Jorjani.
Humans, be more like jellyfish.
Jellyfish will save humanity. 👾
Looks like he didnt need that last re-read of The Trial
Another wonderful discussion with Jason...thank you both! For the interested, 'Closer Encounters' is a great book by him that delves into this connection between aliens/ufo's and the metaphysical realm.
Either leave him off or restore him. This is schizophrenia inducing, lol. Love to you Both
In the description box is the link to the listings page Jeffrey refers to for anyone looking for older videos. It takes you to NTA, which then links back to YT. Could be a problem with the algo or the way the videos are set in the channel playlist as a reason they don’t come up on a search.
Jeffrey did something and all the videos disappeared from the Videos list and could not be found in Google searches. He needs to reverse what he did.
@@chester5450 They are set with the symbol that looks like a paper clip which means you need a link to see it. He gets the benefit of the doubt with me. Not my business, not my fight. ✌🏼Edit: I do see your point. They should be set to Listed.
@@kt9495 Yes - they should be set to Listed immediately. There are 39 full interviews (maybe more). IMO this content belongs to all of us.
All of the Jorjani videos have always been available through the Listings page. www.newthinkingallowed.com/Listings.html
Is jason 'de-canceled' on new thinking! ;)
Good to see!
After removing all of Jason’s videos (by far the best of your channel) I hope this means you are finally making up.
His interviews never went anywhere.
A little philosophical absurdity here: is there life before death? Because societies that fall, have as first indication the loss of life...
P.S. Thanks Dr. Mishlove for the great videos!
I’m miss Jason
That really flipped the cards
We love Jason
Jason Reza is fantastic.
In death Note, why is the protagonist named, 'L?' the name K. Would be more fitting as a nod to Kafka.
Great stuff. You should make peace with him, Jeffrey. For our sake.
"Thanks Jason, now can you recount the entire plot of The Trial with the maximum degree of nihilist resignation?"
Jason is a strong mind, I believe the issue between Jeffery and Jason turned personal when spouses got involved - let’s apply the law of forgiveness and allow for all free thought and discussion to prosper on this - TH-cam’s premier free thinking channel
how many times do we reincarnate?
✋
Brillant intellectuel.
C'mon Smiley.
I miss Jason. Did he call for a "first strike" nuking of China or something like that?
Would somebody straighten me out on this?!
Creme de la creme. Many thanks for this, gentlemen!👏👏👏
💙👌
🧞 Jason u R the One. Nice 2 C U with PRAVDA friends. thanks⭐😍⭐
Will you please elaborate about FM-30.
🌀 The myth of Plato to nato is collapsing 💯%&C...
🌀 The old Persian maj used to "know" that:
There's no way by any form & kind of education we can Not make a Horse race from a Donkey= believers never ever crossing the bridge of knowing.
Love you all 🧞
Jason Jorjani's utter brilliance and support among some NTA subscribers notwithstanding, I've a rather imperious reaction to seeing this reboot. (It's a far cry from a stamped-feet hissy fit, but I'd like to register a modicum of dismay nonetheless.)
I'm aware that my opinion may be construed as strident - or worse, picayune - but also akin to throwing out the proverbial baby with the bathwater. However, since my strong feelings about JRJ stem, in part, from his vehemently expressed views on eugenics in Iran - particularly appalling - perhaps it's not just a metaphor after all.
A bigger person would celebrate tough conversations in the town square. After all, the paucity of civil dialogue is central to our undoing.
For all I know, he might've retracted his argument about the very topic I mentioned. For example, he's certainly done that regarding his previous alliance with Richard Spencer.
In that case, I stand checked and owe an apology. In the meantime, here's my two cents...or less.
Thanks for your forbearance in reading this.
Paz y luz.
Well said.
Here's your word salad star: 🌟
When you, Jeffrey, realize Jason was the target of an image cheapening operation and that your actions indirectly (and unwittingly) supported their goal, if you are the deep thinking and truly caring individual I think you are, especially for those like Jason who deserve that care, you'll apologize and restore ALL (what, near 40?) videos you made private [EDIT: you made unlisted]. Do the right thing.
None of the videos have been made "private." They are all availaing through our Listings page, and always have been.
@@NewThinkingAllowed I may have the term "private" wrong (and, if so, I will edit my post), but I no longer see a single one (until this new one you just posted) listed under Videos though that is where I always used to find them. Where are we supposed to find them now? Again, I'll edit my post if I can find them. Is the "Listings page" on another website besides TH-cam? I see no category called Listings here on the TH-cam page.
@@NewThinkingAllowed Now I understand... you made them "unlisted" so they can't be searched for on Google and TH-cam. You can reverse that. Why don't you? Jason was the one who got you to start NEW Thinking Allowed and was, if I recall correctly, your first guest. Either restore them all or remove this one from "Listed" and stop with the childishness. There's only one way to make it right and that is to restore them from unlisted.
there is no trial in this book
cool
J.R.J rules❤
Understanding Kafka is very easy. He was of jewish heritage and at the time antisemitism was on the rise… so the trial is just about a jewish man on trial for being a jew. The same goes for the story in metamorphosis, a jew resident Who in the eyes of his landlord slowly turns into a pest, a comon view of the antisemetics in those days.
But it can be interpreted in a dozen ways of course. Modernism, bureaucracy and so many themes.
The beauty of hermeneutics. We read the same book but we do not read the same way.
It seems a bit hypocritical to re-upload this if you believe he’s a hateful bigot as you’ve expressed in the past. You’re legitimizing his work and ideas by posting this as it’s an indirect promotion of his work and ideas. I think Jason has very clearly and honestly laid out his worldview and it’s not fair to characterize it as you have. I’m sure if you extended an olive branch out to him you could both continue making great content together.
So wait. You're reposting content with a guy you won't even have on because of his beliefs, but you're still willing to profit off of him?
Explain...
The book contains little to no religious references and yet you insist in a religious interpretation of it...
The day you dropped Jorjani was the beginning of your loss of audience. Make up understand you error and make more interviews if you can persuade him.
So your message is: "Do as we say or you shall be punished." I guess you haven't learnt much from watching this channel?
@@danzigvssartre I think you missed the point all together. Or you are just trying to provoke a non existent situation. Either way I wish you peace on your joirney
The audience has been consistently growing, with or without, JRJ videos.
@@NewThinkingAllowed we love you jeffrey, just wish you could mend things with jason so those wonderful conversations are available to all. i hope you make peace.
Awesome I thought you weren't perhaps going to have jason on again being worthful on his war like take on how to deal with China. Very good show for Kelly with a k.