Watching this video about 3 months after you filmed it. So impressed by how your presentation keeps getting better and better. Love how Andrea is more involved now in showing features. It's the interplay back and forth that keeps us coming back and it's smooth, but natural. Frankly, I'm spoiled by you two. Other reviewers: "and here's a storage compartment..." (10 ponderous seconds pass) "and here's the (blahblahblah) steps (10 more seconds pass while I bang my head on my desk). Keep doing it your way. That's why you've doubled subscribers in 3 months! Best to you both.
Hey Matt and Andrea! Awesome review! We have a 2020 36 LA. We customized it and loaded it up with almost every option including solar, in dash nav, washer and dryer, recliner, the computer workstation (instead of the dinette) and we also upgraded the chassis and added the LiquidSpring option (our CCC is over 4,000lbs) and got a custom paint job. This rig has lots of storage inside and out and is very comfortable and livable. Totally agree with you about the stove covers. We are going to see if Tiffin can put a hinge on them for us or create some storage solution under our sink when we take it back to Red Bay for our 1 year check up. FYI.. It is a Queen size bed and we thought it would be an issue since we have always had a King size bed. So far, so good and it has not been an issue for us. You are correct that everyone needs to compare apples to apples when it comes to the options that may or may not have been added by each dealer. Our total MSRP with all of the options we added was over $206K before dealer discount. We got a great deal when we bought ours but I am sure you would have given us an even better deal if we had known you back then... right?! 👍😎🚍
Hey RV Diem, you have the same Open Road Tiffin and have a question. How does the 6.7 gas engine perform with this unit? At first glance it seems like too much coach for that engine? Yes, no?
Ramiro Gonzales No issues for us. Plenty of engine and horsepower and it is not too loud either. Check out our test drive video with LiqiudSpring and Tiffin for more info.
Totally agree. I like to do my own maintenance and knowing how hard it is to access the filters would be a big help. You guys are the best. Keep it up!
That's my favorite coach! Things I like: the floor plan, no bed over the driver's cockpit, flat wall no-slide on the campsite side. Things I don't like: no king bed option, lack of cabinet above toilet in half-bath, small night stands next to bed. I wish they'd put the head of the bed on the passenger's side and the cabinetry on the slide as the might have made it possible to have a king bed with larger nightstands. Great review!
3 things we like: 1) no bed in cockpit and extra storage. 2) floor tiles 3) queen bed 3 things we don’t like: 1) carpet in cockpit. 2) the shower could be larger. 3) needs a little more counter space and pantry.
I love your enthusiasm and how you and your wife work together as a team to bring us these videos . Any RV dealer would be blessed to have you on their team,
loves: Slides in you can still get through to bedroom, bed does not fold up, Shower! Dislikes: Cook top covers, side tables for bed are too long to get out of bed with ease, steps in always seem steep for us vertically challenged people.
Great review as usual Matt, but I have a suggestion. Why not have how-to videos, like how to hook up a car for towing, or how to change the oil on a RV, or how to weigh a RV on scales or any other tasks a RV owner will run into.
Love you, Matt and Andrea. Love the recliner option, tv placement, and ceiling fan. I dislike passenger's slide out desk, no oven, not crazy about the kitchen backslash.
That coach was on our radar. Very nice coach. We didn’t pull the trigger because it has laminated walls vs hung on Newmar. Still a nice coach. Thanks for reveiw!!
Exterior ✅Fantastic storage and doors ✅Made in the 🇺🇸 ✅ Love the color! ✅Tankless water heater!! ❌Power cord needs a reel. Interior ❌laptop tray is less than stellar. 🤔Does the buyer have an option for a farmhouse sink? ✅Wonderful kitchen!!! ❤️❤️❤️Beautiful ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Thanks Andrea for driving out with “My Man Matt” 3M all the way to Jacksonville. It would have been a lonely drive for Matt and an even lonelier time for us Subs. Love the colour of your nails too. I would however like to see you in a “My Man Matt”s T-shirt whenever y’all are doing a review. Cheers!!!
I actually completely agree with your dislike of the bed lights. I’m sitting in our bed now watching this video and I’d have trouble doing this in the RV with these lights. Great catch!!
Another great RV review! I really love how you and Andrea now list your likes and dislikes. It makes it more interesting when you both share your input on these reviews. It shows how you are both a team!!!
That is a great gas RV. Tiffin does make very nice Class A motorhomes. Likes: 1. Sofa and tv location. I especially love the recliner. That would be my prime spot to sit at night. 2. Beautiful cabinets throughout. 3. The Bathrooms. Those were very nice. Bonus: The kitchen. It's very nice, especially with the long window. Dislikes: 1. Water fill on passenger side. that is going to be a pain unless using a very long hose. 2. Cargo Carrying Capacity. This is a little nitpicky. It can be really easy to fill that with 2000lbs of stuff and people. Especially with all that space to put stuff. So overloading accidentally could be really easy if full timing in that. 3. Going to go with the stove covers. Something that heavy needs a dedicated spot to put them.
Another great video Matt and Andrea really like where she enacting with you makes them just that much better. Likes 1 nice lay out over all 2 big fan of a rear bath 3 residential refrigerator. and now the deal breakers dislikes 1 the TV over the cab area 2 no bunk over the cab area 3 and why I would never even think of buying this who ever thought of putting a generator under the bed need to be made to sleep there for a month with it running.
I'm watching this video 2 years later... and you guys went from 23k subs too 200k subs.. congrats and keep up the great work. Me and the wife plans to spend our retirement traveling the country in an rv. All these reviews are great watchings and motivation for the near future..🤙❤💙🤙
Three things I like: 1) Size of the freshwater tank 2) The seat in the shower 3) 99.9% of the interior. Three dislikes: 1) Gas powertrain-particularly the Triton motor 2) The stove top cover. I feel the same way you do Matt, too bulky for a lot of people 3) The location of the TV up front with regard to the sofas, sort of seems like a “Neck Wrecker” - It should be in another location parallel to the driver side slide out.
Very nice quality product, beautiful interior, nice layout. Like that the kitchen isn’t a slide. So nice to have the window above the kitchen counter, LOL I’m too short to reach the top freezer shelf! Excellent TV placement for sofa. Ceiling fan. Don’t like the lights above the headboard. Nice full bath, with a great shower and storage. There are way more things I like than the few I don’t (reading lights, bed size, stove). I could see us living comfortably full time in it. Andrea, I love the lighter/blonder hair.
Like The fans in the cockpit. Long sofa for napping Big ol shower Dislike No solar installed but optioned No bunk ( maybe optional ) A double sink. I prefer a single bowl Hard to find a dislike on a Tiffen though. They are nice and well built.
I hate the 2nd bath. I don't like the wall right next door to the bed seems cramped. I love the recliner. I love the washer dryer. Thank you! Great Vid.
You two are a team, you notice different things about the coach. I would have rather had a king bed, and a shorter couch. I would have rather had a stove w the cooktop!
Not only is that a queen-size bed, it's a residential 60x80 queen bed! And I love it! A bed long enough for most of us taller folks. So I love the residential-size queen bed, the bath and a half and the seating arrangement. I don't like the residential refrigerator (prefer electric/propane), the lack of kitchen prep space and the rather small propane tank.
Another great review Andrea and Matt. Like kitchen, bath and half, washer/dryer. Dislike freezer I can't reach, expect diesel at this price point, carpeting needs to go.
Things I do not like! 1) Do not like the refrigerator 2) no vacuum 3) do not like how the blinds are not motorized. 4) half bath could have more cabinets 5) do not like the doors...prefer slides 6) prefer a wood stool 7) cook top 8) bed size 9) shower likes: 1) like the cabinets 2) storage under the bed 3) love the stackable water and drier 4) like leather furniture. Paula
Hi Matt, it would be great is you could show the chassis and house batteries. Some rigs have a pull out battery tray for easy access. Some rigs have as many as six house batteries and two chassis batteries if they are not made accessible it can be a real inconvenience.
Good to see you giving the payload. It's odd that Tiffin only has the 36LA on the 24,000 pound GVWR chassis. Some say you can special order it with the 26,000 pound chassis. Also, if ordered with the Liquid Springs rear suspension option the GVWR is increased to 26,000 pounds.
I may have to stop by the Jax RV show this weekend. Love the storage, instant hot water, really like the floor plan. Pretty much my ideal floor plan. The only thing I would prefer is a bunk over the cab instead of the TV but other than that perfect.
Hi Matt and Andrea! I really like this rig! I like the living room and tv that is positioned in front of the sitting area. I like the kitchen and its storage and lighting. And that rear bath is great! I am with you....I don't like that stove cover. One is left holding the bag with what to do with the loose tops. Kind of petty....I don't like that the couch or lounge chair area doesn't have a spot to put drinks, remotes, or Tiffin diesel pusher fliers. We have a dog, so a small folding side table would probably lose a drink or two from the furry passer byer. Continuing with the first world issues, I would like the night stands next to the bed slightly larger; nothing substantial, just big enough to hold an iPad or your evening glass of water......or for folks with cpaps and such. And I also agree with you again.....the co driver fold out work table looks weak......and is weird with the hump in it. Oh, just a personal thing....I would prefer the traditional refrigerator with gas and electricity as the option for some limited boondocking. This seems like the next level up to that Fleetwood Bounder 33C that you showed. Very nice looking rig. We would have to open the pocketbook a bit more, but really like this one!
You do not seem to know this coach well. I believe the stove top covers store under the kitchen sink. Tifffin motorhomes are top of the line and seem to think of everything. Nice motorhome, thank you for showing and reviewing it.
We have a 2014 Tiffin Allegro 36-LA On ours I love the fit and finish on all the cargo doors. Love the fireplace even though that’s something I thought was stupid at first. Love the three fantastic fans and ours has hoods for them all so they can be open while driving. Love the skylight in the shower. We have the table and chairs and I love the extra counter on the wall behind it. I hate the driver seat has to be all the way forward before bringing in the slide and then won’t go most the way back when you’re driving without rubbing the slide. The manual states the maximum load on the real ladder is 200 pounds, so I won’t be going up it. I really don’t like that when you look down the coach from the front to the back what you see is the toilet. The little keyed door Up high on the right rear side the shower valve access. I find it strange that it’s keyed and the gas cap door isn’t.
Great review you guys! Gasser class A's getting better! Fan of fans. Are ceiling fans optional on most motorhomes? I see fewer new units with ceiling fans. Also, Plz add to your reviews. Does the kitchen cooktop fan vent outside? Was reading an owner review of a $350K+ DP and the kitchen fan vented inside. The owner was pissed. Thx!!!
Hey Tubby and Andrea.. Love Y'all, Mean It.. 3+ things I like - The Quality and Service after the sale, Everything is accessible with slides in, Stackable W/D, fiberglass roof with Dish Sat. Receiver, Big storage bay, big shower, instant continuous hot water, big couch and recliner. 3+ things I don't like - Refrigerator is to small, booth dinette needs to be table and chairs, light fixtures on bed headboard, it needs a 50amp power cord reel, dont like the clunky computer desktop in front of copilot seat, awning mounting arm over passenger window not good, location of generator is to close to bedroom, needs a dishwasher > mine broke her arm two weeks ago.. See ya later, Andrea and Tubby too. Don't worry, you know we love him too.. Bye
Great video! It would be nice if Tiffin could make/have a place under the counter to slide the stove top covers into, so then they could be used as extra counter space. They have to be stored somewhere while ur using the stove, so why not get double duty?
3 things I don't like: 1. No frameless windows despite this being Tiffin's entry level class A. 2. Only 5000 lb towing capacity, 🤷🏼♂️ the sacrifice of a bigger gas class A 3. The "plastic" feel of the dash around the driver. It could easily be made of a better material. 3 things I like: 1. Awesome wet bay. Tiffin has perfected the wet bay! 2. Backsplash window and huge kitchen sink along with the kitchen storage. 3. Spacious bathrooms in Tiffin RV's. Every Tiffin I've been in seems to have adequate showers and water closet for me as a big dude. (6'3" and just shy of 300lb) ! 😲
I would imagine that it is the rear access to the shower flow/temp valves. Pretty sure this is so you can remove/replace it without tearing up the shower stall. According to the brochure, Andrea is right! Bed is a 60x80 Queen. Sorry Matt.
Nice for the price. Don't like the TV over the cab, as it's seems kinda useless. Would prefer if they had installed a drop-down bunk. The other opportunity they missed was in not installing a slide out drawer extension with additional countertop space at the end of the existing countertop near the entry door. They had plenty of room there to do that.
Full time living for large family obviously. But really needs an oven at this price. Like the window over sink but does it have a shade = Privacy concern. I'm with Matt on the cook top covers but as solid surface is upgrade, perhaps that could go away. I'm also with Matt on the bed, definitely looks narrow. There is a hugh end manufacturer that puts the TV & fireplace in slide wall which I think is a better use of space.
You got more, I just subscribed! What I like, Color, Quality build, comfort for the driver and passenger. Never was a Ford fan, but this will do. My wife will like the lower diner. Very nice bathrooms, like the porcelain toilets. Though they are heavier (see next under don't like) What I don't like: A lot of heavy materials (but its quality, so you got to pick your battles) taking up potential useful load. My wife and I are used to Queen size beds. The cook tops can be set aside to be used for something else, like a food tray or cutting board. Covering the stove is useless as we don't do that at home. Oooops, did you just give the price?
Do you ever review fifth wheels? I do watch and appreciate your Class A and C RV reviews. However, we are a fifth wheel couple and will be upgrading to a larger higher end fifth wheel in the next few years. Keep up the awesome and entertaining reviews!!
Great floorpan and I really like this one. Dislike: 1) Can't believe that they put a queen in there! 2) Don't see the reason for the over-cab TV and 3) I would like theater seats. I like 1) the bath and a half 2) storage 3) kitchen window
I have watched probably 15 of your videos so far (I am new to TH-cam) and will continue watching....big fan you guys do a great job. For the most part I agree with your assessments on the RV's and what you like and dislike. Dislikes:1) TV over the cab...I really don't like that. Probably the only person that would dislike that but I really dislike that.2) Carpet….no matter how small it is I think all of the other flooring is best. NO carpet.3) I agree completely with Andrea the lighting over the bed has to go. Poorly placed. Fine unless your sitting up which I do frequently.Likes:1) The colors, art deco, the flooring, the back splash I love2) Ceiling fan in bedroom3) Loving that master bath
I saw this one's more expensive cousin at the Atlanta Camper & RV Show. REEEAAALLLYYY liked it! As For this one's likes/dislikes: LIKES 1) The bed (I'm a small guy, so I don't need a kingsize) 2)The ceiling fan! 3) the recliner. Dislikes: 1)The Price, 2)The Price, and 3)The Price. I can buy a decent house in a decent part of town for that much, and houses don't depreciate as soon as you pull them off the lot.
👍Love Tiffin!!! What took you so long! Can’t wait for the 2021 Tiffin Red 37BA! Love the half bath, the sofa, the washer dryer, and fireplace. Don’t like gas not diesel, no “extra kitchen counter top”, low CCCO, and no full height slide out pantry.
Matt I test drove this tiffin Open road a brand new 2019 unit with 400 miles on it in Indiana and the complains I had was being a gas coach it had a lot of engine nose that does get annoying afterafter a while also the coach I drove had a lot of sway while driving there could of being a sway bar issue although the salesman told there was nothing worth with this unit the bed was to small I don’t like the carpet in a. Coach it get dirty to fast I don’t like the stove top and the pull out computer tray is very Flimsy and I wish the fifty amp cord was on a power reel now the things I do like the layout the outside storage the kitchen window it is a nice coach but after driving it I think the only way to go is diesel one it get better mileage 2 it can tow more weight 3 the engine last twice as long 4 it much more quieter and efficient so after driving this coach it was a big learning experience on what to look for in a rv but the down size it costs twice as much being Diesel
3 dislikes - not a fan of residential fridge - not a fan of double sink - prefer single farmhouse sink. Dont like ceiling fan position - even if blades had to be shorter - I would prefer it more over bed. 3 likes - carpetless - the big window in kitchen area - tankless hot water heater
Automatic like for reviewing a Tiffin! We have a 32sa so it’s the same floor plan minus the extra bath in rear. Likes: kitchen window, extra bath, interior colors and recliner! Dislikes: Queen bed (although mattresses are real comfortable!), half bath toilet position, no WiFi booster like others are starting to put on.
Better height on that jump - keep working on those legs !!!!! - BTW , I'm glad that I'm not the only one that married way above my head :) -- Keep up the good work
Hey Matt, just discovered your channel...love the content! Please consider wearing body pack/lapel mic so the signal doesn't fade every time you turn away from the camera.
3 things I love, the window in the kitchen area, the recliner & all the storage outside. 3 things I don’t like, the cover over the cook top (what a pain putting that away all the time), the drawers under the bed (I’d rather have a large storage area), the half bath and the 4th and biggest thing I don’t like is the price. Tiffin is overpriced.
lol...I rarely ever drop a response on You Tube...but I have to say that I have been binge watching your videos for the past couple of days, like you were a Netflix Series:) I live in California but plan on buying a Class C or B once my son is old enough to enjoy road trips. If you're still doing your thing then I might give you a call and road trip a new motor home back to CA from FL:)Per your request:3 things I disliked- I felt that the propane tank was a bit small for the size of this rig.- loved the slide out pantry but felt it would be more functional if it was lower.- Not sure how I felt about the TV in the very front.3 things I loved- Detailing!! The overall detail was amazing...cabinets, backsplash, walls...all great.- The cockpit was very spacious especially for the passenger.- Loved the master bath and the washer/dryer set up.Love your videos! You two keep it up!!Ciao from SoCal:)
My goodness I am enjoying your reviews - thank you for doing them. Question for you - is there any possibility of ordering a class c without the dinette and such installed? Like a shell with finished walls? I am looking at full timing in the future...
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Three things I love It’s a Tiffan, their attention to detail is bar none The kitchen window Stacked washer dryer Three I dislike. Computer pull out thing on dash, pew, someone was asleep on that Arms on the sofa are thin and look flimsy No oven
Likes: fit N finish, TV placement, washer and dryer. Dislikes: dinette without cup holders, flimsy passenger desk tray. The cooktop and sink covers stow in a compartment under the sink.
I like this one 10 times more than the other tiffan.. much nicer! now if I could convince the wife we need a 2nd home for tax purposes (ie this motor home!) BTW.. whats the pros/cons of gas vs diesel?
I dislike the kitchen window, it sticks out several inches from the wall and robs much useful counter space compared to that of our 2016 32SA, the space we now use for our toaster, coffee maker and knife holder. It's also a trap for cooking grease and water. It's an example of glitz robbing function. That window has my wife dead set against a new Tiffin and has us considering a Newmar for our next coach.
"Art Deco" is a very specific STYLE of art very popular in the 1920's to the 30's ,Matt....Yes, by all means Google "Art Deco"....Just understand that any old or new framed print stuck on the wall of an RV is NOT " ART DECO".....it should be called decorative artwork, instead, to avoid sounding ignorant.... Otherwise, excellent video, guys!
I don't know how I ended up here, but I didn't know I needed a motorhome till now
Watching this video about 3 months after you filmed it. So impressed by how your presentation keeps getting better and better. Love how Andrea is more involved now in showing features. It's the interplay back and forth that keeps us coming back and it's smooth, but natural. Frankly, I'm spoiled by you two.
Other reviewers: "and here's a storage compartment..." (10 ponderous seconds pass) "and here's the (blahblahblah) steps (10 more seconds pass while I bang my head on my desk).
Keep doing it your way. That's why you've doubled subscribers in 3 months! Best to you both.
Hey Matt and Andrea! Awesome review! We have a 2020 36 LA. We customized it and loaded it up with almost every option including solar, in dash nav, washer and dryer, recliner, the computer workstation (instead of the dinette) and we also upgraded the chassis and added the LiquidSpring option (our CCC is over 4,000lbs) and got a custom paint job. This rig has lots of storage inside and out and is very comfortable and livable. Totally agree with you about the stove covers. We are going to see if Tiffin can put a hinge on them for us or create some storage solution under our sink when we take it back to Red Bay for our 1 year check up. FYI.. It is a Queen size bed and we thought it would be an issue since we have always had a King size bed. So far, so good and it has not been an issue for us.
You are correct that everyone needs to compare apples to apples when it comes to the options that may or may not have been added by each dealer. Our total MSRP with all of the options we added was over $206K before dealer discount. We got a great deal when we bought ours but I am sure you would have given us an even better deal if we had known you back then... right?! 👍😎🚍
Awesome I was thinking of Y’all when I was doing the review 😁😁😁
Hey RV Diem, you have the same Open Road Tiffin and have a question. How does the 6.7 gas engine perform with this unit? At first glance it seems like too much coach for that engine? Yes, no?
Ramiro Gonzales No issues for us. Plenty of engine and horsepower and it is not too loud either. Check out our test drive video with LiqiudSpring and Tiffin for more info.
The small door on the passenger side of motorhome gives access to back of the shower faucet for inspection or repair. Roger on the E Shore.
very nice! thank you Andrea for being there for us.
Thanks Andrea for coming out and make it happen 👍
Would be great if you show the engine compartment. Would love to see where the coolant, windshield washer, oil etc goes also.
even better show checking the oil level instead of opening a cupboard
Totally agree. I like to do my own maintenance and knowing how hard it is to access the filters would be a big help. You guys are the best. Keep it up!
Even more so , do a rear radiator Diesel engine access, that will run most off that do any work on their own
That's my favorite coach! Things I like: the floor plan, no bed over the driver's cockpit, flat wall no-slide on the campsite side. Things I don't like: no king bed option, lack of cabinet above toilet in half-bath, small night stands next to bed. I wish they'd put the head of the bed on the passenger's side and the cabinetry on the slide as the might have made it possible to have a king bed with larger nightstands. Great review!
3 things we like: 1) no bed in cockpit and extra storage. 2) floor tiles 3) queen bed 3 things we don’t like: 1) carpet in cockpit. 2) the shower could be larger. 3) needs a little more counter space and pantry.
Just wondering where I can get the tshirt with Matt on the toilet talking about the prime pooping position.
@Jairo Amos hahahaha
Awesome Job Matt and Andrea !!! Thanks for driving to Jacksonville for the Tiffin!!
I love your enthusiasm and how you and your wife work together as a team to bring us these videos . Any RV dealer would be blessed to have you on their team,
You two are both so great to watch! Wonderful teamwork. Keep it up.
Matt might be the star of the show, but Andrea is the producer with all the insight! Smiles.
Love it when the reseller says they don't know what something is.
loves: Slides in you can still get through to bedroom, bed does not fold up, Shower! Dislikes: Cook top covers, side tables for bed are too long to get out of bed with ease, steps in always seem steep for us vertically challenged people.
Great review as usual Matt, but I have a suggestion. Why not have how-to videos, like how to hook up a car for towing, or how to change the oil on a RV, or how to weigh a RV on scales or any other tasks a RV owner will run into.
Love you, Matt and Andrea. Love the recliner option, tv placement, and ceiling fan. I dislike passenger's slide out desk, no oven, not crazy about the kitchen backslash.
Wish this Tiffin had a bunk over the cab and a propane fridge. Also a king bed. Love the full paint, the dark cabinets and the kitchen window.
That coach was on our radar. Very nice coach. We didn’t pull the trigger because it has laminated walls vs hung on Newmar. Still a nice coach.
Thanks for reveiw!!
Replying!
Exterior
✅Fantastic storage and doors
✅Made in the 🇺🇸
✅ Love the color!
✅Tankless water heater!!
❌Power cord needs a reel.
Interior
❌laptop tray is less than stellar.
🤔Does the buyer have an option for a farmhouse sink?
✅Wonderful kitchen!!!
❤️❤️❤️Beautiful ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Thanks Andrea for driving out with “My Man Matt” 3M all the way to Jacksonville. It would have been a lonely drive for Matt and an even lonelier time for us Subs. Love the colour of your nails too. I would however like to see you in a “My Man Matt”s T-shirt whenever y’all are doing a review. Cheers!!!
I actually completely agree with your dislike of the bed lights. I’m sitting in our bed now watching this video and I’d have trouble doing this in the RV with these lights. Great catch!!
Another great RV review! I really love how you and Andrea now list your likes and dislikes. It makes it more interesting when you both share your input on these reviews. It shows how you are both a team!!!
That is a great gas RV. Tiffin does make very nice Class A motorhomes.
Likes:
1. Sofa and tv location. I especially love the recliner. That would be my prime spot to sit at night.
2. Beautiful cabinets throughout.
3. The Bathrooms. Those were very nice.
Bonus: The kitchen. It's very nice, especially with the long window.
Dislikes:
1. Water fill on passenger side. that is going to be a pain unless using a very long hose.
2. Cargo Carrying Capacity. This is a little nitpicky. It can be really easy to fill that with 2000lbs of stuff and people. Especially with all that space to put stuff. So overloading accidentally could be really easy if full timing in that.
3. Going to go with the stove covers. Something that heavy needs a dedicated spot to put them.
Water fill is on driver's side
@@thedavidrichman Hrm. I must have missed it. Cause I know Matt pointed out a water fill above the tank on the passenger side.
Another great video Matt and Andrea really like where she enacting with you makes them just that much better. Likes 1 nice lay out over all 2 big fan of a rear bath 3 residential refrigerator. and now the deal breakers dislikes 1 the TV over the cab area 2 no bunk over the cab area 3 and why I would never even think of buying this who ever thought of putting a generator under the bed need to be made to sleep there for a month with it running.
I'm watching this video 2 years later... and you guys went from 23k subs too 200k subs.. congrats and keep up the great work. Me and the wife plans to spend our retirement traveling the country in an rv. All these reviews are great watchings and motivation for the near future..🤙❤💙🤙
I love the recliner in this unit love the fireplace and the all leather interior love the fact that it has a bath and a half
Three things I like:
1) Size of the freshwater tank
2) The seat in the shower
3) 99.9% of the interior.
Three dislikes:
1) Gas powertrain-particularly the Triton motor
2) The stove top cover. I feel the same way you do Matt, too bulky for a lot of people
3) The location of the TV up front with regard to the sofas, sort of seems like a “Neck Wrecker” - It should be in another location parallel to the driver side slide out.
Very nice quality product, beautiful interior, nice layout. Like that the kitchen isn’t a slide. So nice to have the window above the kitchen counter, LOL I’m too short to reach the top freezer shelf! Excellent TV placement for sofa. Ceiling fan. Don’t like the lights above the headboard. Nice full bath, with a great shower and storage.
There are way more things I like than the few I don’t (reading lights, bed size, stove). I could see us living comfortably full time in it.
Andrea, I love the lighter/blonder hair.
Like
The fans in the cockpit.
Long sofa for napping
Big ol shower
Dislike
No solar installed but optioned
No bunk ( maybe optional )
A double sink. I prefer a single bowl
Hard to find a dislike on a Tiffen though. They are nice and well built.
Love: bath and a half, king bed, slide NOT right next to the door!
Love stackable washer and dryer and all the storage
That front end just below the headlights. Those indented panels provides a sculpted look. No bunk is a plus. Kitchen window. Those are my +'s
You crack me up. Enjoy your video’s. Have you done a video comparing Jayco and wntegra differences. Specifically the class c.
I hate the 2nd bath. I don't like the wall right next door to the bed seems cramped. I love the recliner. I love the washer dryer. Thank you! Great Vid.
You two are a team, you notice different things about the coach. I would have rather had a king bed, and a shorter couch. I would have rather had a stove w the cooktop!
Not only is that a queen-size bed, it's a residential 60x80 queen bed! And I love it! A bed long enough for most of us taller folks. So I love the residential-size queen bed, the bath and a half and the seating arrangement. I don't like the residential refrigerator (prefer electric/propane), the lack of kitchen prep space and the rather small propane tank.
Another great review Andrea and Matt. Like kitchen, bath and half, washer/dryer. Dislike freezer I can't reach, expect diesel at this price point, carpeting needs to go.
Things I do not like!
1) Do not like the refrigerator
2) no vacuum
3) do not like how the blinds are not motorized.
4) half bath could have more cabinets
5) do not like the doors...prefer slides
6) prefer a wood stool
7) cook top
8) bed size
9) shower
likes:
1) like the cabinets
2) storage under the bed
3) love the stackable water and drier
4) like leather furniture.
Paula
I like it all ...and having both of you giving input gives a more informed tour great video .
I like the kitchen, shower, ceiling fan. Don't like the price, outside TV or bed size. Great job guys 👍❤
The tiffin's are my favorite RVs on your channel beautifully decorated and designed
Love Tiffin, we have a allegro breeze. My only complaint is we need a handle coming in on the right side of the door.
Cons- tv placement above driver and passenger seats (why) when storage would have been better.
Pros- dog window tower of power
Hi Matt, it would be great is you could show the chassis and house batteries. Some rigs have a pull out battery tray for easy access.
Some rigs have as many as six house batteries and two chassis batteries if they are not made accessible it can be a real inconvenience.
Good to see you giving the payload. It's odd that Tiffin only has the 36LA on the 24,000 pound GVWR chassis. Some say you can special order it with the 26,000 pound chassis. Also, if ordered with the Liquid Springs rear suspension option the GVWR is increased to 26,000 pounds.
That small door on the right rear is access to the back of the shower that allowed me to change broken shower faucet in my 36LA
I may have to stop by the Jax RV show this weekend.
Love the storage, instant hot water, really like the floor plan. Pretty much my ideal floor plan.
The only thing I would prefer is a bunk over the cab instead of the TV but other than that perfect.
Hi Matt and Andrea! I really like this rig! I like the living room and tv that is positioned in front of the sitting area. I like the kitchen and its storage and lighting. And that rear bath is great! I am with you....I don't like that stove cover. One is left holding the bag with what to do with the loose tops. Kind of petty....I don't like that the couch or lounge chair area doesn't have a spot to put drinks, remotes, or Tiffin diesel pusher fliers. We have a dog, so a small folding side table would probably lose a drink or two from the furry passer byer. Continuing with the first world issues, I would like the night stands next to the bed slightly larger; nothing substantial, just big enough to hold an iPad or your evening glass of water......or for folks with cpaps and such. And I also agree with you again.....the co driver fold out work table looks weak......and is weird with the hump in it. Oh, just a personal thing....I would prefer the traditional refrigerator with gas and electricity as the option for some limited boondocking.
This seems like the next level up to that Fleetwood Bounder 33C that you showed.
Very nice looking rig. We would have to open the pocketbook a bit more, but really like this one!
You do not seem to know this coach well. I believe the stove top covers store under the kitchen sink. Tifffin motorhomes are top of the line and seem to think of everything. Nice motorhome, thank you for showing and reviewing it.
Good to see you at General RV in Jacksonville (actually Orange Park). That is where I bought my A.C.E. last year.
We have a 2014 Tiffin Allegro 36-LA
On ours
I love the fit and finish on all the cargo doors.
Love the fireplace even though that’s something I thought was stupid at first.
Love the three fantastic fans and ours has hoods for them all so they can be open while driving.
Love the skylight in the shower.
We have the table and chairs and I love the extra counter on the wall behind it.
I hate the driver seat has to be all the way forward before bringing in the slide and then won’t go most the way back when you’re driving without rubbing the slide.
The manual states the maximum load on the real ladder is 200 pounds, so I won’t be going up it.
I really don’t like that when you look down the coach from the front to the back what you see is the toilet.
The little keyed door Up high on the right rear side the shower valve access. I find it strange that it’s keyed and the gas cap door isn’t.
Great review you guys! Gasser class A's getting better! Fan of fans. Are ceiling fans optional on most motorhomes? I see fewer new units with ceiling fans. Also, Plz add to your reviews. Does the kitchen cooktop fan vent outside? Was reading an owner review of a $350K+ DP and the kitchen fan vented inside. The owner was pissed. Thx!!!
Hey Tubby and Andrea..
Love Y'all, Mean It..
3+ things I like - The Quality and Service after the sale,
Everything is accessible with slides in, Stackable W/D, fiberglass roof with Dish Sat. Receiver, Big storage bay, big shower, instant continuous hot water, big couch and recliner.
3+ things I don't like - Refrigerator is to small, booth dinette needs to be table and chairs, light fixtures on bed headboard, it needs a 50amp power cord reel, dont like the clunky computer desktop in front of copilot seat, awning mounting arm over passenger window not good, location of generator is to close to bedroom, needs a dishwasher > mine broke her arm two weeks ago..
See ya later, Andrea and Tubby too.
Don't worry, you know we love him too.. Bye
Great video! It would be nice if Tiffin could make/have a place under the counter to slide the stove top covers into, so then they could be used as extra counter space. They have to be stored somewhere while ur using the stove, so why not get double duty?
3 things I don't like:
1. No frameless windows despite this being Tiffin's entry level class A.
2. Only 5000 lb towing capacity, 🤷🏼♂️ the sacrifice of a bigger gas class A
3. The "plastic" feel of the dash around the driver. It could easily be made of a better material.
3 things I like:
1. Awesome wet bay. Tiffin has perfected the wet bay!
2. Backsplash window and huge kitchen sink along with the kitchen storage.
3. Spacious bathrooms in Tiffin RV's. Every Tiffin I've been in seems to have adequate showers and water closet for me as a big dude. (6'3" and just shy of 300lb) ! 😲
I would imagine that it is the rear access to the shower flow/temp valves. Pretty sure this is so you can remove/replace it without tearing up the shower stall. According to the brochure, Andrea is right! Bed is a 60x80 Queen. Sorry Matt.
Nice for the price. Don't like the TV over the cab, as it's seems kinda useless. Would prefer if they had installed a drop-down bunk. The other opportunity they missed was in not installing a slide out drawer extension with additional countertop space at the end of the existing countertop near the entry door. They had plenty of room there to do that.
Full time living for large family obviously. But really needs an oven at this price.
Like the window over sink but does it have a shade = Privacy concern.
I'm with Matt on the cook top covers but as solid surface is upgrade, perhaps that could go away.
I'm also with Matt on the bed, definitely looks narrow.
There is a hugh end manufacturer that puts the TV & fireplace in slide wall which I think is a better use of space.
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What I like,
Color, Quality build, comfort for the driver and passenger. Never was a Ford fan, but this will do. My wife will like the lower diner.
Very nice bathrooms, like the porcelain toilets. Though they are heavier (see next under don't like)
What I don't like: A lot of heavy materials (but its quality, so you got to pick your battles) taking up potential useful load.
My wife and I are used to Queen size beds.
The cook tops can be set aside to be used for something else, like a food tray or cutting board. Covering the stove is useless as we don't do that at home.
Oooops, did you just give the price?
Do you ever review fifth wheels? I do watch and appreciate your Class A and C RV reviews. However, we are a fifth wheel couple and will be upgrading to a larger higher end fifth wheel in the next few years. Keep up the awesome and entertaining reviews!!
Thanks for taking the time to make this Tiffin Video! Curious what happened to your Leatherman?
Thanks for asking George... Its getting repaired.. the leather started to tear
Really enjoyed this ... but for A tiffin I would rather have a bigger bed then a washer and dryer and a diesel instead of gas.
Great floorpan and I really like this one. Dislike: 1) Can't believe that they put a queen in there! 2) Don't see the reason for the over-cab TV and 3) I would like theater seats. I like 1) the bath and a half 2) storage 3) kitchen window
This is Tiffins best gas floor plan and now with Liquid Springs The best ride.
likes master bath, cockpit seats, Fridge dislikes, gas cooktop, bed fireplace.
I have watched probably 15 of your videos so far (I am new to TH-cam) and will continue watching....big fan you guys do a great job. For the most part I agree with your assessments on the RV's and what you like and dislike. Dislikes:1) TV over the cab...I really don't like that. Probably the only person that would dislike that but I really dislike that.2) Carpet….no matter how small it is I think all of the other flooring is best. NO carpet.3) I agree completely with Andrea the lighting over the bed has to go. Poorly placed. Fine unless your sitting up which I do frequently.Likes:1) The colors, art deco, the flooring, the back splash I love2) Ceiling fan in bedroom3) Loving that master bath
I'm 1 exit away from that location. Might have to come to the RV show this weekend.
See your there!!!
I saw this one's more expensive cousin at the Atlanta Camper & RV Show. REEEAAALLLYYY liked it! As For this one's likes/dislikes: LIKES 1) The bed (I'm a small guy, so I don't need a kingsize) 2)The ceiling fan! 3) the recliner.
Dislikes: 1)The Price, 2)The Price, and 3)The Price. I can buy a decent house in a decent part of town for that much, and houses don't depreciate as soon as you pull them off the lot.
👍Love Tiffin!!! What took you so long! Can’t wait for the 2021 Tiffin Red 37BA!
Love the half bath, the sofa, the washer dryer, and fireplace. Don’t like gas not diesel, no “extra kitchen counter top”, low CCCO, and no full height slide out pantry.
Matt I test drove this tiffin Open road a brand new 2019 unit with 400 miles on it in Indiana and the complains I had was being a gas coach it had a lot of engine nose that does get annoying afterafter a while also the coach I drove had a lot of sway while driving there could of being a sway bar issue although the salesman told there was nothing worth with this unit the bed was to small I don’t like the carpet in a. Coach it get dirty to fast I don’t like the stove top and the pull out computer tray is very Flimsy and I wish the fifty amp cord was on a power reel now the things I do like the layout the outside storage the kitchen window it is a nice coach but after driving it I think the only way to go is diesel one it get better mileage 2 it can tow more weight 3 the engine last twice as long 4 it much more quieter and efficient so after driving this coach it was a big learning experience on what to look for in a rv but the down size it costs twice as much being Diesel
Awesome review Matt and Andrea... Allegros are so tall.. only thing I don’t like is the tv over the cab I’m not a fan of that at all..
That is a really nice coach Matt. Like you stated, two rows of options is a bit much!
That box outside near the window is dryer vent!
Art Deco is a style of design that came from circa 1920 @Matt
3 dislikes - not a fan of residential fridge - not a fan of double sink - prefer single farmhouse sink. Dont like ceiling fan position - even if blades had to be shorter - I would prefer it more over bed.
3 likes - carpetless - the big window in kitchen area - tankless hot water heater
Automatic like for reviewing a Tiffin! We have a 32sa so it’s the same floor plan minus the extra bath in rear.
Likes: kitchen window, extra bath, interior colors and recliner!
Dislikes: Queen bed (although mattresses are real comfortable!), half bath toilet position, no WiFi booster like others are starting to put on.
The only thing I do not like about is that I can not afford it lol
Better height on that jump - keep working on those legs !!!!! - BTW , I'm glad that I'm not the only one that married way above my head :) -- Keep up the good work
Hey Matt, just discovered your channel...love the content! Please consider wearing body pack/lapel mic so the signal doesn't fade every time you turn away from the camera.
I think the 36LA is a queen bed but a long one and it makes the width look like it so less than a queen size.
I still love overhead bed.. Nice one!
3 things I love, the window in the kitchen area, the recliner & all the storage outside. 3 things I don’t like, the cover over the cook top (what a pain putting that away all the time), the drawers under the bed (I’d rather have a large storage area), the half bath and the 4th and biggest thing I don’t like is the price. Tiffin is overpriced.
I love the interior to Andrea
lol...I rarely ever drop a response on You Tube...but I have to say that I have been binge watching your videos for the past couple of days, like you were a Netflix Series:) I live in California but plan on buying a Class C or B once my son is old enough to enjoy road trips. If you're still doing your thing then I might give you a call and road trip a new motor home back to CA from FL:)Per your request:3 things I disliked- I felt that the propane tank was a bit small for the size of this rig.- loved the slide out pantry but felt it would be more functional if it was lower.- Not sure how I felt about the TV in the very front.3 things I loved- Detailing!! The overall detail was amazing...cabinets, backsplash, walls...all great.- The cockpit was very spacious especially for the passenger.- Loved the master bath and the washer/dryer set up.Love your videos! You two keep it up!!Ciao from SoCal:)
Awesome well thanks so much!!!
My goodness I am enjoying your reviews - thank you for doing them. Question for you - is there any possibility of ordering a class c without the dinette and such installed? Like a shell with finished walls? I am looking at full timing in the future...
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Great job dudes !
Three things I love
It’s a Tiffan, their attention to detail is bar none
The kitchen window
Stacked washer dryer
Three I dislike.
Computer pull out thing on dash, pew, someone was asleep on that
Arms on the sofa are thin and look flimsy
No oven
Likes: fit N finish, TV placement, washer and dryer. Dislikes: dinette without cup holders, flimsy passenger desk tray. The cooktop and sink covers stow in a compartment under the sink.
Making it hard for me to decide coming up with so many great ones
Great review. I'm waiting for the "hot tub" option.
Check out the Rhealm, 2021, has a jacuzzi tub
I like this one 10 times more than the other tiffan.. much nicer! now if I could convince the wife we need a 2nd home for tax purposes (ie this motor home!) BTW.. whats the pros/cons of gas vs diesel?
I dislike the kitchen window, it sticks out several inches from the wall and robs much useful counter space compared to that of our 2016 32SA, the space we now use for our toaster, coffee maker and knife holder. It's also a trap for cooking grease and water. It's an example of glitz robbing function. That window has my wife dead set against a new Tiffin and has us considering a Newmar for our next coach.
Matt, every piece of art or anything artistic is not Art Deco. Google it. Good review.
"Art Deco" is a very specific STYLE of art very popular in the 1920's to the 30's ,Matt....Yes, by all means Google "Art Deco"....Just understand that any old or new framed print stuck on the wall of an RV is NOT " ART DECO".....it should be called decorative artwork, instead, to avoid sounding ignorant.... Otherwise, excellent video, guys!
I get your humor and don’t think it’s ignorant at all.
I missed it, but is that a pet window? It seems like I haven’t seen one much, which is too bad. Our dog and cat would love that.
@matt… so you corrected portable to potable but it is pronounced “Poe-table” not “Paht-able”.
It's so beautiful, I love it.
Would like to see a review of the 2022 model.