Wow! I started listening to Sproul in 1995, but I've never seen or heard John Gerstner. Now I see that all these years R.C. Sproul was emmulating his mentor. Immitation is the sincerist form of flattery.
I put a baptism lecture on while I was doing a job at home and for the first few minutes, I was like "wait, I didn't not click on R.C. Sproul." Went back to my phone and it's this John Gerstner guy. I bet myself 100 bucks he taught Sproul and I just found this out to be correct. Everything about their speech is identical!
What most atheists don’t appreciate about cosmological classical apologetics, is that it does not posit God as a hypothesis for the creation of the universe.. but rather deductively builds up the properties of this first cause, where it’s properties are built up to the point that merits the term “God”. God is not merely submitted as an explanation, but is discovered in the inquiry.
This is how Jesus built His ministry. He never outright claimed to be God, He just acted in such a way that it would draw people to the obvious conclusion.
How can anyone use logic for science without God. Without God the biblical one, we know and are nothing. That isn't what I believe it is what I know. I know because at the end of the questions Without him we only have absurdity and idiocy.
I Love you Fellows and seeing you passed on RC Sproul to be with God in person through Christ on the good side of the river or gulf do to the One who paid in full for our sin debt owed unto the FATHER by the one who not only died for our error and sin but rose according to the Holy Scriptures and for our justification, I find it in me by him of time past and present and to come by saying hello and believe you can now hear me according to Faith and I believe for it is true and that I can't wait to see also my creator who shall in a time to come and yet is already here hello my Lord and brother RC for to be absent from the body said Paul mine APOSTLE is to be present with the Lord and I believe your with him . Again for the greater good and for the greatest Gift which is LOVE and I Love you because he being God in the flesh he first LOVED me to allow me to be made whole and alive in the flesh even though for now the sin in this flesh troubleth my soul but not forever for we are being clothed with the RIGHTEOUSNESS of God the Lord in Christ for JESUS is the very CHRIST God with us now in the Spirit of the Father and to come EVERLASTING Life without Sin in which we will call him Daddy to be in the presents of GOD without being burned for he is an consuming fire for for a New body all the Saved will receive on that day thus we are the CHURCH the body of Christ . SHALOM Amen and AMEN. 👍
I love these debates I listen to these many times over and over. I guess in the end it's up to finding out the truth when it's all over and done with one side will be right and the other side wrong. Either there is a God or there isn't. I would never use the so called law I d causality or the first cause in an argument because, if we postulate that there is no God, then obviously for the universe to exist now then it had to have always existed in some form or another as it cannot be it's own cause.
The Big Bang moved into motion that which was not in motion. In order for that to happen, a cause that was unchanged prior to The Big Bang catalyzed that motion. That Unchanged Cause is GOD.
@@thunderpooch We all will meet the one true and only God the Holy Creator one day ( Hebrews 9;27) and He's being merciful by giving us all time to get right with Him before judgement day, because when judgement day comes you get no second chances. God came as Jesus in the flesh to go and pay our sin debt on the cross, we deserve hell we deserve to take our punishment but in His great love and mercy He took our punishment and sins to the cross. He died and paid for our sin debt in full ( John 19:30) then God the Father rose Jesus on the third day with glory and power and triumph and He conquered hell, sin, death, satan, the world. Jesus broke down the wall that separated us from Him so we can come to Him and be saved and have a relationship with Him. believe and repent of your sins and God will forgive and cleanse you and make you born again by His Holy Spirit ( John 3). today is the day of salvation, you don't know what day or hour or minute or even the second you'll die. Heaven is eternal and hell is eternal as well. Jesus is the only way to Heaven He's the only way we can be saved from sin and from hell ( John 14, Romans 6:23, Romans 10:9-14). don't choose sin over the Holy loving God. come to Jesus! believe and repent ( 1 Cor 6:9-10, Romans 3:23, John 3:15-18, Rom 10:9-14, NKJV).
It’s troubling to see folks idolizing RC. He did teach most things very well. But he was a man. He loved his new Mercedes. He was less than nice to some like Van Til and Bahnsen who had better methods of apology. Yet people put him on a pedestal. By the way, this is nothing more than a battle of intellect. Not everyone has this education. The starting point always has to be God. You cannot prove anything apart from God.
There is a God who is in heaven, There is an reading from the bible, You all become to me!! So is it right the christian religion is the only right one to have
I CAN PROVE GOD IS REAL ...JOHN CHAPTER 3 OF THE GOSPEL IS A SUPER NATURAL EXPERIENCE .. ACTS 5/32 GOD GIVES THE HOLY SPIRIT ONLY TO THOSE WHO OBEY HIM BOOK OF JUDE SAYS THIS .... 16These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage. 17But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; 18How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts. 19These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
Michael Perez Prove God real? Actually, that is the one sure thing that you cannot do! And why do you quote from the Gospel of John when it is not an eyewitness account, the actual author of the writings being unknown?
What proof would be good enough for you?? Do you want him to spell out your name in the stars? You wouldn't look, the stars proclaim his majesty every day. Do you want him to leave his intelligent signature on every cell, every atom in existence? Would you then admit that he must've created the world? What if he did something more subtle, like come down to earth, perform miracles, raise others and himself from the dead to prove his power? No, not good enough you say? Your choice.
@@rockycomet4587 I speak of course of Jehovah, the god of the Israelites-Jehovah the the warlord who commanded the taking of other lands by force of arms. Clearly no super intelligent supernatural being but rather the figurehead of a violent people. A study of the Old Testament reveals the stupidity of his supposed actions. His failures as a god reveal his fictional status.
Not true. the only God that's the one true God is the one that is self existing self sufficient Sovereign uncreated Supreme Lord of all and His name is Jesus Christ get to know Him, We all will meet the one true and only God the Holy Creator one day ( Hebrews 9;27) and He's being merciful by giving us all time to get right with Him before judgement day, because when judgement day comes you get no second chances. God came as Jesus in the flesh to go and pay our sin debt on the cross, we deserve hell we deserve to take our punishment but in His great love and mercy He took our punishment and sins to the cross. He died and paid for our sin debt in full ( John 19:30) then God the Father rose Jesus on the third day with glory and power and triumph and He conquered hell, sin, death, satan, the world. Jesus broke down the wall that separated us from Him so we can come to Him and be saved and have a relationship with Him. believe and repent of your sins and God will forgive and cleanse you and make you born again by His Holy Spirit ( John 3). today is the day of salvation, you don't know what day or hour or minute or even the second you'll die. Heaven is eternal and hell is eternal as well. Jesus is the only way to Heaven He's the only way we can be saved from sin and from hell ( John 14, Romans 6:23, Romans 10:9-14). don't choose sin over the Holy loving God. come to Jesus! believe and repent ( 1 Cor 6:9-10, Romans 3:23, John 3:15-18, Rom 10:9-14, NKJV).
Just as the devil hopes you will conclude. There is no evil either (so some liberal atheists believe because once they concede evil then there must be a source or origin - what is it?)
@@RocketRodCub Well, there certainly are things like reason, morale, ethics. These are man-made rules, and yes, humans have the opportunity to have or make up or even change their scale of what might be ethically okay and what not. But that doesn't make that fact any less important or valuable.
@@RocketRodCub The source and origin of evil tends to start with logical absolutes. Virtue ethics is one such example. And then it gets into subjective and experiential territory which no human being is exempt from. This goes for both atheists and theists. Only it's rare for theists to admit that their idea of "evil" comes from any social experience because they'll point to a deity (which is the product of social rituals and traditions, etc.). From the theist standpoint it would beg the question of what part of our actions and beliefs Isn't social? It's a murky area. That said, the Christian's biggest trick, is convincing people that the devil's biggest trick is to convince people he doesn't exist (which is kind of virtuous for someone THAT narcissistic and evil tbh, even if it's for a few minutes).
Captain Kooky does not want to spend eternity gnashing his teeth all alone ---he commented here looking for pals to join him and it looks as though he found some? Why not stick to watching Darwin's Doubt or other scientifically enlightening media since you relish only being eventual worm food?
Wow! I started listening to Sproul in 1995, but I've never seen or heard John Gerstner. Now I see that all these years R.C. Sproul was emmulating his mentor. Immitation is the sincerist form of flattery.
I put a baptism lecture on while I was doing a job at home and for the first few minutes, I was like "wait, I didn't not click on R.C. Sproul." Went back to my phone and it's this John Gerstner guy. I bet myself 100 bucks he taught Sproul and I just found this out to be correct. Everything about their speech is identical!
“Give or take a couple weeks”
- R.C. Sproul
What most atheists don’t appreciate about cosmological classical apologetics, is that it does not posit God as a hypothesis for the creation of the universe.. but rather deductively builds up the properties of this first cause, where it’s properties are built up to the point that merits the term “God”. God is not merely submitted as an explanation, but is discovered in the inquiry.
This is how Jesus built His ministry. He never outright claimed to be God, He just acted in such a way that it would draw people to the obvious conclusion.
@@ryanprosper88 However Jesus did claim to be God in very clear terms John8: 58
Thank you so much for this! Appreciate having access to these videos! Praise be to God through Christ Jesus!❤
Yikes! Can you imagine unknowingly debating one of these two men about ANYTHING?
They'd have me in a corner in two minutes.
They weren't supermen. They were very knowledgeable in theology and philosophy, but they had feet of clay and fallible minds just like anyone else.
These mock debates,regarding biblical truth are what I enjoy,Thank God Almighty for such explosive wisdom
But the atheists always win
his look of disdain and this debate is beneath me is so spot on
Sería excelente tener este debate en español
Gerstner held steady and strong. RC is very clever in playing the opposing view.
Sproul is comedic genius! ".....give or take a cpl of weeks"
Ha! I laughed when he said that. RC was one of a kind!
Thank you for sharing. Lord God thank You for these two giant men of the faith. Excellent mocking debate🙏🏼🤗
What a wonderful & funny debate! Two great theologians & man of God!🙏
por favor, traduzcan estos videos y pasenlos al canal en español de ligonier
How can anyone use logic for science without God. Without God the biblical one, we know and are nothing. That isn't what I believe it is what I know. I know because at the end of the questions Without him we only have absurdity and idiocy.
It's like watching two Sprouls, love it
why doesn`t trinity appears in bible,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,..............................
@@lufhopespeacefully2037 it does just not the word, you have, the Father, the Son and the Holy spirit these three are one
@@lufhopespeacefully2037 do you believe the Bible is the true Scripture of God?
I Love you Fellows and seeing you passed on RC Sproul to be with God in person through Christ on the good side of the river or gulf do to the One who paid in full for our sin debt owed unto the FATHER by the one who not only died for our error and sin but rose according to the Holy Scriptures and for our justification, I find it in me by him of time past and present and to come by saying hello and believe you can now hear me according to Faith and I believe for it is true and that I can't wait to see also my creator who shall in a time to come and yet is already here hello my Lord and brother RC for to be absent from the body said Paul mine APOSTLE is to be present with the Lord and I believe your with him . Again for the greater good and for the greatest Gift which is LOVE and I Love you because he being God in the flesh he first LOVED me to allow me to be made whole and alive in the flesh even though for now the sin in this flesh troubleth my soul but not forever for we are being clothed with the RIGHTEOUSNESS of God the Lord in Christ for JESUS is the very CHRIST God with us now in the Spirit of the Father and to come EVERLASTING Life without Sin in which we will call him Daddy to be in the presents of GOD without being burned for he is an consuming fire for for a New body all the Saved will receive on that day thus we are the CHURCH the body of Christ . SHALOM Amen and AMEN. 👍
Por favor subanlo en español, es una gran pérdida.
Sproul, what a talented brother.
This is a good video in every way I could describe something as Good
What year was this recorded?
I love these debates I listen to these many times over and over. I guess in the end it's up to finding out the truth when it's all over and done with one side will be right and the other side wrong. Either there is a God or there isn't. I would never use the so called law I d causality or the first cause in an argument because, if we postulate that there is no God, then obviously for the universe to exist now then it had to have always existed in some form or another as it cannot be it's own cause.
I love these debates.
Shalom,
Can Reupload to Video?
Thank God for faithful Christian men like these. (Bro. Sproul had Pentecostal hair back then! 😉)
Dr. RC Sproul.. PHD (Pentecostal Hair Do)
Big bang theory. There was a bang. It was big. And it was there for all eternity. 🤣
love this videos
Awesome thank you !
Amen!
I think Dr Gerstner would have been the better Devil's advocate.😂😂
The Big Bang moved into motion that which was not in motion. In order for that to happen, a cause that was unchanged prior to The Big Bang catalyzed that motion. That Unchanged Cause is GOD.
Praise God
En Español por favor..... Dios les bendiga mucho.
please, translate this video to spanish
THE LORD SAID ONLY A FOOL DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD... THE devil WILL ALSO QUESTION ABOUT GOD.. EVERYONE WILL SEE HIM IN THE END.
Whatever
@@thunderpooch We all will meet the one true and only God the Holy Creator one day ( Hebrews 9;27) and He's being merciful by giving us all time to get right with Him before judgement day, because when judgement day comes you get no second chances. God came as Jesus in the flesh to go and pay our sin debt on the cross, we deserve hell we deserve to take our punishment but in His great love and mercy He took our punishment and sins to the cross. He died and paid for our sin debt in full ( John 19:30) then God the Father rose Jesus on the third day with glory and power and triumph and He conquered hell, sin, death, satan, the world. Jesus broke down the wall that separated us from Him so we can come to Him and be saved and have a relationship with Him. believe and repent of your sins and God will forgive and cleanse you and make you born again by His Holy Spirit ( John 3). today is the day of salvation, you don't know what day or hour or minute or even the second you'll die. Heaven is eternal and hell is eternal as well. Jesus is the only way to Heaven He's the only way we can be saved from sin and from hell ( John 14, Romans 6:23, Romans 10:9-14). don't choose sin over the Holy loving God. come to Jesus! believe and repent ( 1 Cor 6:9-10, Romans 3:23, John 3:15-18, Rom 10:9-14, NKJV).
It’s troubling to see folks idolizing RC. He did teach most things very well. But he was a man. He loved his new Mercedes. He was less than nice to some like Van Til and Bahnsen who had better methods of apology. Yet people put him on a pedestal.
By the way, this is nothing more than a battle of intellect. Not everyone has this education. The starting point always has to be God. You cannot prove anything apart from God.
can you prove your statement is correct?
There is a God who is in heaven, There is an reading from the bible, You all become to me!! So is it right the christian religion is the only right one to have
I CAN PROVE GOD IS REAL ...JOHN CHAPTER 3 OF THE GOSPEL IS A SUPER NATURAL EXPERIENCE ..
ACTS 5/32 GOD GIVES THE HOLY SPIRIT ONLY TO THOSE WHO OBEY HIM
BOOK OF JUDE SAYS THIS ....
16These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
17But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
18How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
19These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
Michael Perez
Prove God real? Actually, that is the one sure thing that you cannot do! And why do you quote from the Gospel of John when it is not an eyewitness account, the actual author of the writings being unknown?
Please in Spanish
Brilliant, thanks
There is no credible proof of any god anywhere at any time.
What proof would be good enough for you??
Do you want him to spell out your name in the stars? You wouldn't look, the stars proclaim his majesty every day.
Do you want him to leave his intelligent signature on every cell, every atom in existence? Would you then admit that he must've created the world?
What if he did something more subtle, like come down to earth, perform miracles, raise others and himself from the dead to prove his power?
No, not good enough you say? Your choice.
I really just don’t know anymore.
Please in Spanish....Thank you!
This is not a debate. LOL
Hahaha this is amazing.
I notice that Sproul and Gerstner didn’t have the stones to debate real atheists! 😢
what kind of response are you looking for
@@bjornegan6421 How about debating someone real.
Of course there’s not.
Instead of debating a real atheist debate, a fake atheist sounds fair to me!😂😂😂
@@thekingofthings2002 I think actual atheists are quite capable!
Did you learn anything at least ?
The only god that we know is the one created by man!
Prove it.
@@rockycomet4587
I speak of course of Jehovah, the god of the Israelites-Jehovah the the warlord who commanded the taking of other lands by force of arms. Clearly no super intelligent supernatural being but rather the figurehead of a violent people. A study of the Old Testament reveals the stupidity of his supposed actions. His failures as a god reveal his fictional status.
Not true. the only God that's the one true God is the one that is self existing self sufficient Sovereign uncreated Supreme Lord of all and His name is Jesus Christ get to know Him, We all will meet the one true and only God the Holy Creator one day ( Hebrews 9;27) and He's being merciful by giving us all time to get right with Him before judgement day, because when judgement day comes you get no second chances. God came as Jesus in the flesh to go and pay our sin debt on the cross, we deserve hell we deserve to take our punishment but in His great love and mercy He took our punishment and sins to the cross. He died and paid for our sin debt in full ( John 19:30) then God the Father rose Jesus on the third day with glory and power and triumph and He conquered hell, sin, death, satan, the world. Jesus broke down the wall that separated us from Him so we can come to Him and be saved and have a relationship with Him. believe and repent of your sins and God will forgive and cleanse you and make you born again by His Holy Spirit ( John 3). today is the day of salvation, you don't know what day or hour or minute or even the second you'll die. Heaven is eternal and hell is eternal as well. Jesus is the only way to Heaven He's the only way we can be saved from sin and from hell ( John 14, Romans 6:23, Romans 10:9-14). don't choose sin over the Holy loving God. come to Jesus! believe and repent ( 1 Cor 6:9-10, Romans 3:23, John 3:15-18, Rom 10:9-14, NKJV).
@@jesusfollowerswomenministries
When you say God/Jesus paid our debts on the cross, I would ask to whom do we owe or owed a debt?
@@edwardlongfellow5819 God
No. There is no God.
But do not fear. There is no devil either.
Just as the devil hopes you will conclude. There is no evil either (so some liberal atheists believe because once they concede evil then there must be a source or origin - what is it?)
@@RocketRodCub Well, there certainly are things like reason, morale, ethics. These are man-made rules, and yes, humans have the opportunity to have or make up or even change their scale of what might be ethically okay and what not.
But that doesn't make that fact any less important or valuable.
Prove it.
@@RocketRodCub The source and origin of evil tends to start with logical absolutes. Virtue ethics is one such example. And then it gets into subjective and experiential territory which no human being is exempt from. This goes for both atheists and theists. Only it's rare for theists to admit that their idea of "evil" comes from any social experience because they'll point to a deity (which is the product of social rituals and traditions, etc.). From the theist standpoint it would beg the question of what part of our actions and beliefs Isn't social? It's a murky area.
That said, the Christian's biggest trick, is convincing people that the devil's biggest trick is to convince people he doesn't exist (which is kind of virtuous for someone THAT narcissistic and evil tbh, even if it's for a few minutes).
Captain Kooky does not want to spend eternity gnashing his teeth all alone ---he commented here looking for pals to join him and it looks as though he found some? Why not stick to watching Darwin's Doubt or other scientifically enlightening media since you relish only being eventual worm food?