Glad you put this out for all to see. I will definitely be planning on my next shock purchase after the suspension parts are put on. Hopefully the shocks hold out til I replenish my bank account 💵😊. Great information, thanks for sharing.
John Rice I did receive some positive news. My dealership Agreed to replace one of the shocks. Don’t ask me why only one. But one is better than nothing. Currently on back order. It’s going to take over a week to get. Now if I can only get Chevrolet to watch this video so they can replace the other one.
@@TrailAdventuresTV I wish they would listen more to customers. I am frustrated too because I work for General Motors on the assembly line in Texas. I believe they need to offer more ways for feedback on their vehicles. I still believe that I get 10% off on GM parts but don't know on these. 😠.
Phenomenal review of the DSSVs. I really appreciate the input. When I get my ZR2 I’m definitely going to get all the hall racing parts and just pay them off on a credit card. I was waiting for a solid review of the stock DSSVs and I finally got it, so thank you! Love the channel. Keep doing exactly what you are doing. Great insight and advice
Sean thank you so much for subscribing. And thank you for your comment. I’m going to be super jealous of your truck with all of those performance parts. Keep us posted. Can’t wait to see how to build it turns out.
Well said. I agree with you on all points. I have OEM king shocks coming in today for my ZR2. I will post my reviews as soon as I am able to compare the difference.
Awesome video. I just got off the phone with my parts guy about equivalent multimatic shocks for a 23 zr2. He didn't sell anything. I would prefer to get a GMC Canyon Denali but want the zr2 multimatic shocks. I drive 95% on pavement. Do u think the multimatic shocks are a waste for mostly pavement? I live on curvy roads and want the best ride possible. Thanks
Bought a brand new 2021 ZR2, 3 weeks ago. Front right shock starting clunking after 200 miles. It had 8 miles on it when I test drove it. Just got it back from the dealer today and had the shock replaced. $1,341 for the shop to do it, warrantied of course. 200 miles..........it wasn't leaking, but it was presenting a low speed clunking when encountering bumps, turns, and pulling/backing into the driveway.
Wow,. Glad that you were able to get that fixed without too much drama. Keep an eye on those shocks. Try to get them all replaced before the warranty is up.
Had one shock start leaking at 7k miles. Now at 15k and waiting for another replacement shock (on backorder). Still under warranty, so I'll push that as far as I can, but will likely move to King (or something else if available) once the warranty has expired. Supposedly, GM now has a tech bulletin on the Multimatic DSSVs about leaks... hopefully they will fix the issue and not just skirt around.
Sorry to hear about your leaky shocks. Thank God you are still under warranty. After my ZR two ran out of warranty. And I was starting to have troubles with the shocks. Instead of going with aftermarket shocks I decided to move the truck down the road. Was able to get 32,000 out of it. I bought it used for 34,000. So I didn’t do too bad.
One thing should be clarified about your comments on the position sensitive damping and "lift". You are correct in that if you use the Eibach lift springs, or much of a level spacer, then yes, you are changing the ride height position of the shock in the front. But if you actually lift you truck, as opposed to just leveling, then you are using the BDS suspension lift, since that is the only one out there. And that lift retains the stock ride position of the shock, so will have no effect on the ride height damping. My thought on your observation of less damping with the non-stock tires, is that it is not less damping you are feeling, but the effect of a much stiffer tire than the stock tires. The stock tires are extremely soft, mushy tires, and pretty much any actual truck tire you put on is going to be either a D or E rated tire, resulting in a much stiffer tire, and affect the ride. On the leaking shocks, I agree, that is complete crap. My RR started leaking on a 6700 mile road trip from WA to AK and back, including the Dalton Hwy to Prudhoe Bay. I was 2700 miles over the warranty when I got home and found it was leaking. From the color of the dirt caked onto the oil, I know it was leaking before 36,000, but GM denied warranty. The fact that the current part number for the shocks is the third one there has been, and the seals on the new shocks are visibly different tells you GM is fully aware there is a design issue with the shocks, but still refuse to stand behind their product. I love my ZR2, but GM really pi$$ed me off on this one.
That’s a crazy price 😬6k , I would be sad if mine blew out at 15k-20k to be honest lol I’m runnin bilstien 5160(with remote reservoir) im around 40-45k on them and still going strong n mines were like $200 each shock lol, No lie though great video overall!!! As always I love how you go in depth with the info smashed the like button 🔥 I still wanna do that collab someday 🙏
I’m at 66k. Just did a small lift about 7000 miles ago. No leaks so far. I did get the extended warranty 5 years unlimited miles. I’ve also seen the Kings being installed on our trucks now. Icon is local to us right? We need an option from them!
Pj Faust That is awesome. 66K. That’s a good run. I really wish icon would put something together for us. We are local. And they could benefit from some good social media PR
Can you get ahold of service information from chevy/DSSV and re-pack/reseal the shocks? I guess my question is are they rebuildable. Surly a quality expensive shock is rebuildable.
I don’t think Chevrolet is rebuilding them at all. However, I believe there are some third-party companies that are performing some rebuilds. The second generation DSSV shocks have much better seals than the first generation.
I really enjoyed your video and the heads up on the Multimatic DSSV Suspension shocks. I watched a video of a guy who has these shocks in his Camaro. He was very unhappy because he felt every bump in the road. I am about to order a new Colorado. My question is how do the DSSV shocks perform on pavement? Thanks
I think these shocks are amazing. And if you’re looking for ride comfort on the street, you will not be disappointed. I also believe that they are fantastic Offroad. However, their durability comes into question with hard off Roading. I hope this information helps.
@Trail Adventures TV Yes. This helps tremendously. I'm looking for a gmc at4.. Not taking it off road much. I have a 2019 Canyon now. Do you miss the bigger digital dash for speedo, etc. That is the only option that is standard on the Denalu but not the at4?
@@TrailAdventuresTV here's a link for the rear shocks. You get a 5% discount when you use the 'CCE' promo code. I just bought my set cuz I had one go out. www.peaksuspension.com/collections/17-colorado-zr2-spring-and-shocks/products/king-shocks-performance-series-2-5-piggyback-reservoir-shock-17-colorado-zr2
Im running a Winch and CBI half bumper on my Gas v6 zr2 and you could tell it was sagging. I was going to do the Diesel springs to level out the truck but decided to "spend once cry once" and purchased Kings OE series 600lb springs with compression adjuster. Turns out I ended up crying and losing sleep plenty of nights, took 5 month to get them. The truck is now leveled with out messing with any pre load. Thinking about doing an add a leaf and upper control arms now. Still have to take the truck to an alignment shop so I can really start testing.
@@TrailAdventuresTV Small 6 hour road trip and the kings handle great at speed and almost as good as when the truck was stock. Multimatics are honestly so good with a stock truck and would not replace unless you are adding extra weight or building a pre runner. Also the reliability of the multimatics is sketch. The Kings with the 600lb springs up front made for a better ride height and cant even tell the weight is there like before, so much sag. Some guys on the zr2Zone forum say the springs are too stiff off road. They come with 650lb springs standard if not specified. Even with Diesel trucks with Bumpers and Winch some have gone down to 550lb springs. I think those guys are expecting too much from an OE replacement shock and looks like they are building pre runners IDK. For me the Kings with 600lb springs handle the weight much better then the stock Multimatics springs. Was going to do an Eibach spring level swap but wanted a more reliable shock so just went Kings.
Hi TinkeringWithTravis. These tires are amazing. The best mud terrain tire I have ever owned. No vibration through the steering wheel. No humming. The noise you might be hearing is likely the LED ballast humming. That does get annoying. Thanks for your question. And thank you for tuning in.
Sucks that you've had to replace two already, but thanks for passing the info along. I have a 18' Z71 and I want to upgrade my whole suspension (currently only have 2" leveling kit) and this unfortunately rules these shocks out for me (plus it's a hassle to retro fit for my trim). Just moved to SD and looking to do some light'iah Baja trailing 🤘 Been looking into the Icon Stage 5, BDS kit, and Kings. Currently leaning towards Icon but still researching, any info for performance and longevity on any of these (or others) would be awesome. Love your videos man! Keep it up! Best Chevy Colorado channel I've found!
Jossay Jacobo Thank you so much for subscribing to the channel. And I truly appreciate your compliments. I really like icon vehicle dynamics suspension systems myself. I would love to work with them to develop a solid replacement for the DSSV shocks. I guess only time will tell if we will get more manufacture support for these vehicles. Let me know what direction you decide to go with your suspension. I would be interested to see what you decide.
Man.. that is some bad luck with the DSSV's. I just rolled 40k miles, and no problems yet. I do drive pretty fast pretty frequently on some bad roads and trails, but no problems yet.. maybe because I am still at stock height? ..definitely makes me think twice regarding lift / level when it comes time for new tires.
Travis N i’m glad to hear you had some good luck. So many of us are having difficulties. Keep it stock and it’ll probably last a lifetime. Thanks for subscribing. And thank you for being a positive part of this community.
I have 27K miles on my ZR2. I have the Eibach 1.25 leveling springs and E rated mud terrains. I wheel my truck hard and have no leaks so far. Ultimately I want to upgrade to King's.
Mountain Hobbler I am hearing so many stories just like yours. It’s great that the dealer was able to swap those out for you. Some of us aren’t so lucky. One of our subscribers recommended king shocks. I’m going to have to look into those. I definitely need some upgrades.
The standard DSSVs are a mess along with the 8 spd transmission. I have regrets about my Bison and thinking of replacing the truck. GM needs to replace these shocks and address other issues. I feel like the ZR2 community is basically rolling R&D testing for them.
I would point out that you didn't appear to use Chevy's leveling kit which specifies it maintains the stock DSSV position. I've got 50k on mine and they've driven over some reasonably rough terrain. I'm aware that some are reporting leaks and that is unfortunate. I drove on roads at speeds I never would have in my Jeep but I wasn't pretending that I was in the Dakar rally and to me it felt much smoother. The aftermarket has come along now that there are 4 model years of ZR2s - King makes a bolt on replacement and if I choose to go nuts that's where I will go.
I agree with you about the DSSV shocks but I’ve had quite a few “factory” off road vehicles. Tacoma Trd Pro , Raptors , ZR2 and currently running 20 Trd Pro 4Runner. I felt the Raptor shocks sucked and my current 2020 4Runner TRD PRO fronts are bad a 20k miles. So In reality if I would have my pick of replacements for factory shocks I think the DSSV are ok for the average weekend warrior. I have a new 2021 ZR2 on order now and I plan on a leveling kit in front and 265/70/17’s and calling it a day. Great informative video. Thank you. Be well ....
Hi Mike! Thanks for stopping by the channel. It sounds like you’ve had some pretty amazing off-road vehicles. And you definitely will not be disappointed With your newest acquisition of the ZR2. Your plan on keeping it mostly factory is probably the best thing to do. It will definitely function as the engineers intended. Continue the adventure my friend and be well.
@@TrailAdventuresTV keeping it stock would be ideal but I can’t leave well enough alone. I won’t be doing anything crazy. Probably 1.25 level and some 32” tires.
scott jones That’s a great question. The six shooter is an awesome product. Check out the KC highlights under hood lighting video. And you will see where I mounted it and how I did it. If there is anything that’s unclear. I’ll be happy to answer those questions for you.
I think your video and comments has convinced me to stay away from the 23 ZR2, AT4X. There are just too many failures. I can get a 23 Denali with 20" tires or an AT4 and then if I feel the shocks/ride quality sucks I can put on Fox or King shocks that are comparable to the Multimatic shocks. I do very little off road riding so the Denali would fit me better.
I have a Canyon Denali on order, should be in towards the end of the month, but that was my idea as well. Drive it as is, upgrade the suspension later. I might go with bilstein 6112 and 5160 combo when/if they make them for the 2023 model.
@jakegroenig5820 I drove a 4x4 Colorado yesterday. I currently own a 2019 Canyon All Terrain. It's a nice-looking truck with lots of tech. I decided it wasn't for us. Chevy reduced rear leg room by an inch or so and the truck only comes with a short bed. I have a long bed now and love the extra room. The short bed is way too small to be useful. I also didn't love the 2.7l mated to the 8 speed. The 2.7l in the Silverado had a better power band. The truck also didn't ride as well as my 19. I ended up with a full size Silverado LTZ for 5k more. It had a V8 with similar mpg's, a much larger cargo area, a 10 speed transmission, much more storage and interior room and larger screen. Luckily I was able to get 7500 off msrp and 1.9% financing. The new Canyon/Colorado is just coming out now so no real discounts.
@@frankparisi2433 Thanks for the info. We currently drive a 19' Tundra (4x4, 5.7L, 5.5' bed). Due to some changes we are living in an apartment with limited parking at times. We use to own a Tacoma and it fit us well, so we are looking for smaller. But we will have to see what the family says when we do the test drive. If it is too small we might just keep the truck we have. I would not mind the 3.0 Duramax 1/2 ton but 65k+ is a bit steep.
Something has to be up with the chevy performance prices for the "aftermarket" versions of the suspension components. $3,000 for leaf springs? A custom pack from deaver is around $1k. Their long travel dssv in the front for >$3,800? That's too much money for what they're asking. I suppose it's a niche market but they're only asking 2-3x as much as those components are worth.
So far so good and I've really put them thru their paces. Figure if they're going to fail it should be while under warranty. It was my understanding there were improvements made to the shocks after so many failed so quickly.
Those shocks were literally designed to be set for a certain track and temperatures not to last. They were meant to be dialed in on a post rig then race at the track . That's about the life expectancy of them
This vehicle doesn't need anymore than maybe a 32 inch tire and buy lighter wheels even at 31 inch tires my zr2 still out chooches my trd off road tacoma any day and most life from any shocks is 30 thousand no matter how expensive they are especially if you beat on them alot and icon shocks have alot of problems look at any tacoma forum they seem to suck
I am getting these (and King rears) put on my ZR2 tomorrow. Three of my four Multimatics are blown. Truck does have 70K miles on it with a ton of that highway driving. Maybe two days a month of moderately hard off-road use since November 2017. I was also given the "these shocks should last the life of the truck" line when I purchased. I was buying the truck no matter what; don't appreciate the line of BS in retrospect. www.kingshocks.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/INS-G013-2017-+-Chevy-Colorado-ZR2-Front-Coilover.pdf
So a F1 car on a smooth surface to off road? That don't mix. The only couple good things about the Colorado is the 2.8 diesel, allison trans and fully boxed frame!!
What is the average offroad teams budget? The average F1 budget is 300 million a season. Are they close? I would bet budget is the sole reason you don't see them in the offroad arena. If they are better how much better are they and how much would you have to invest in equipment, programing, and materials to switch over, when you already have the equipment ect to make a conventional shock any way you want. Would it be worth it for a team on a small budget like most offroad races are? I am pretty unimpressed with them if they are having issues so quickly. They were touted as NEVER wearing out. If they have conventional shock seals like it looks like they do, then they WILL wear out no matter what Chevy says. I bet Dirtking or a similar shop could set you up with a set of Kings or Foxes if you decide to move on from the multimatic shocks. If we are going to have to get new shocks eventually then is the cost of the truck worth it if we can get everything aftermarket other then the front locker?
Tommy Metz these are all great points you bring up. I doubt off-road teams have the same budget. And I did not see anyone running any multimatc shocks. And it does appear that they have very similar skills to any other shots. Therefore. They will wear out. And certainly have. Some quicker than others.
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Glad you put this out for all to see. I will definitely be planning on my next shock purchase after the suspension parts are put on. Hopefully the shocks hold out til I replenish my bank account 💵😊. Great information, thanks for sharing.
John Rice I did receive some positive news. My dealership Agreed to replace one of the shocks. Don’t ask me why only one. But one is better than nothing. Currently on back order. It’s going to take over a week to get. Now if I can only get Chevrolet to watch this video so they can replace the other one.
@@TrailAdventuresTV I wish they would listen more to customers. I am frustrated too because I work for General Motors on the assembly line in Texas. I believe they need to offer more ways for feedback on their vehicles. I still believe that I get 10% off on GM parts but don't know on these. 😠.
Phenomenal review of the DSSVs. I really appreciate the input. When I get my ZR2 I’m definitely going to get all the hall racing parts and just pay them off on a credit card. I was waiting for a solid review of the stock DSSVs and I finally got it, so thank you! Love the channel. Keep doing exactly what you are doing. Great insight and advice
Sean thank you so much for subscribing. And thank you for your comment. I’m going to be super jealous of your truck with all of those performance parts. Keep us posted. Can’t wait to see how to build it turns out.
Im wondering if the valving is working correctly and too much pressure if building up, causing the seals to blow.
Well said. I agree with you on all points. I have OEM king shocks coming in today for my ZR2. I will post my reviews as soon as I am able to compare the difference.
Awesome video. I just got off the phone with my parts guy about equivalent multimatic shocks for a 23 zr2. He didn't sell anything. I would prefer to get a GMC Canyon Denali but want the zr2 multimatic shocks. I drive 95% on pavement. Do u think the multimatic shocks are a waste for mostly pavement? I live on curvy roads and want the best ride possible. Thanks
Bought a brand new 2021 ZR2, 3 weeks ago. Front right shock starting clunking after 200 miles. It had 8 miles on it when I test drove it. Just got it back from the dealer today and had the shock replaced. $1,341 for the shop to do it, warrantied of course. 200 miles..........it wasn't leaking, but it was presenting a low speed clunking when encountering bumps, turns, and pulling/backing into the driveway.
Wow,. Glad that you were able to get that fixed without too much drama. Keep an eye on those shocks. Try to get them all replaced before the warranty is up.
So if I'm hearing you right. DSSV shocks should be good for stock ride height and tires, but no so reliable for lift kits and or bigger tires?
Stock ride height more specifically. Tires do play a secondary role.
Had one shock start leaking at 7k miles. Now at 15k and waiting for another replacement shock (on backorder). Still under warranty, so I'll push that as far as I can, but will likely move to King (or something else if available) once the warranty has expired. Supposedly, GM now has a tech bulletin on the Multimatic DSSVs about leaks... hopefully they will fix the issue and not just skirt around.
Sorry to hear about your leaky shocks. Thank God you are still under warranty. After my ZR two ran out of warranty. And I was starting to have troubles with the shocks. Instead of going with aftermarket shocks I decided to move the truck down the road. Was able to get 32,000 out of it. I bought it used for 34,000. So I didn’t do too bad.
One thing should be clarified about your comments on the position sensitive damping and "lift". You are correct in that if you use the Eibach lift springs, or much of a level spacer, then yes, you are changing the ride height position of the shock in the front. But if you actually lift you truck, as opposed to just leveling, then you are using the BDS suspension lift, since that is the only one out there. And that lift retains the stock ride position of the shock, so will have no effect on the ride height damping.
My thought on your observation of less damping with the non-stock tires, is that it is not less damping you are feeling, but the effect of a much stiffer tire than the stock tires. The stock tires are extremely soft, mushy tires, and pretty much any actual truck tire you put on is going to be either a D or E rated tire, resulting in a much stiffer tire, and affect the ride.
On the leaking shocks, I agree, that is complete crap. My RR started leaking on a 6700 mile road trip from WA to AK and back, including the Dalton Hwy to Prudhoe Bay. I was 2700 miles over the warranty when I got home and found it was leaking. From the color of the dirt caked onto the oil, I know it was leaking before 36,000, but GM denied warranty. The fact that the current part number for the shocks is the third one there has been, and the seals on the new shocks are visibly different tells you GM is fully aware there is a design issue with the shocks, but still refuse to stand behind their product. I love my ZR2, but GM really pi$$ed me off on this one.
they were actually developed through F1 when vettel was at Redbull, winning all his championships
That’s a crazy price 😬6k ,
I would be sad if mine blew out at 15k-20k to be honest lol I’m runnin bilstien 5160(with remote reservoir) im around 40-45k on them and still going strong n mines were like $200 each shock lol,
No lie though great video overall!!! As always I love how you go in depth with the info smashed the like button 🔥
I still wanna do that collab someday 🙏
I’m at 66k. Just did a small lift about 7000 miles ago. No leaks so far. I did get the extended warranty 5 years unlimited miles. I’ve also seen the Kings being installed on our trucks now. Icon is local to us right? We need an option from them!
Pj Faust That is awesome. 66K. That’s a good run. I really wish icon would put something together for us. We are local. And they could benefit from some good social media PR
Extended warranty won't cover suspension i tried when mine blewout. It's considered a "maintenance wear" item
Can you get ahold of service information from chevy/DSSV and re-pack/reseal the shocks? I guess my question is are they rebuildable. Surly a quality expensive shock is rebuildable.
I don’t think Chevrolet is rebuilding them at all. However, I believe there are some third-party companies that are performing some rebuilds. The second generation DSSV shocks have much better seals than the first generation.
I really enjoyed your video and the heads up on the Multimatic DSSV Suspension shocks. I watched a video of a guy who has these shocks in his Camaro. He was very unhappy because he felt every bump in the road. I am about to order a new Colorado. My question is how do the DSSV shocks perform on pavement? Thanks
I think these shocks are amazing. And if you’re looking for ride comfort on the street, you will not be disappointed. I also believe that they are fantastic Offroad. However, their durability comes into question with hard off Roading. I hope this information helps.
@Trail Adventures TV Yes. This helps tremendously. I'm looking for a gmc at4.. Not taking it off road much. I have a 2019 Canyon now. Do you miss the bigger digital dash for speedo, etc. That is the only option that is standard on the Denalu but not the at4?
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D@mn that sucks! I have almost 30k, but won’t replace with another set of DSSV’s. I will go with Kings 👍
jeepjkpwr A lot of suggestions for Kings. Do you have a part number or a link?
Trail Adventures USA No, I don’t. Call King direct, I’m sure they will be more than happy to help you out.
@@TrailAdventuresTV here's a link for the rear shocks. You get a 5% discount when you use the 'CCE' promo code. I just bought my set cuz I had one go out. www.peaksuspension.com/collections/17-colorado-zr2-spring-and-shocks/products/king-shocks-performance-series-2-5-piggyback-reservoir-shock-17-colorado-zr2
Im running a Winch and CBI half bumper on my Gas v6 zr2 and you could tell it was sagging. I was going to do the Diesel springs to level out the truck but decided to "spend once cry once" and purchased Kings OE series 600lb springs with compression adjuster. Turns out I ended up crying and losing sleep plenty of nights, took 5 month to get them. The truck is now leveled with out messing with any pre load. Thinking about doing an add a leaf and upper control arms now. Still have to take the truck to an alignment shop so I can really start testing.
Can’t wait to get your feedback on the king shock set up.
@@TrailAdventuresTV Small 6 hour road trip and the kings handle great at speed and almost as good as when the truck was stock. Multimatics are honestly so good with a stock truck and would not replace unless you are adding extra weight or building a pre runner. Also the reliability of the multimatics is sketch. The Kings with the 600lb springs up front made for a better ride height and cant even tell the weight is there like before, so much sag. Some guys on the zr2Zone forum say the springs are too stiff off road. They come with 650lb springs standard if not specified. Even with Diesel trucks with Bumpers and Winch some have gone down to 550lb springs. I think those guys are expecting too much from an OE replacement shock and looks like they are building pre runners IDK. For me the Kings with 600lb springs handle the weight much better then the stock Multimatics springs. Was going to do an Eibach spring level swap but wanted a more reliable shock so just went Kings.
@@mquez509 This is great feedback. And from someone who is actively running the Kings. Good stuff. Thanks for the update. Keep us posted.
Really enjoyed this informative video, only 2500 miles on my ‘19 ZR2 so far. Will have to keep a close eye.
Nolan K I would. These shocks are not cheap.
In the video the humming at speed is your tires? Also do your tires cause a lot of vibration in the steering wheel?
Hi TinkeringWithTravis. These tires are amazing. The best mud terrain tire I have ever owned. No vibration through the steering wheel. No humming. The noise you might be hearing is likely the LED ballast humming. That does get annoying. Thanks for your question. And thank you for tuning in.
Sucks that you've had to replace two already, but thanks for passing the info along. I have a 18' Z71 and I want to upgrade my whole suspension (currently only have 2" leveling kit) and this unfortunately rules these shocks out for me (plus it's a hassle to retro fit for my trim). Just moved to SD and looking to do some light'iah Baja trailing 🤘
Been looking into the Icon Stage 5, BDS kit, and Kings. Currently leaning towards Icon but still researching, any info for performance and longevity on any of these (or others) would be awesome.
Love your videos man! Keep it up! Best Chevy Colorado channel I've found!
Jossay Jacobo Thank you so much for subscribing to the channel. And I truly appreciate your compliments. I really like icon vehicle dynamics suspension systems myself. I would love to work with them to develop a solid replacement for the DSSV shocks. I guess only time will tell if we will get more manufacture support for these vehicles. Let me know what direction you decide to go with your suspension. I would be interested to see what you decide.
From what I've heard the Icon kit is a Degressive dampening which is awful for baja. I'd go kings with compression adjusters
How did you know the shocks ere starting to go bad? Was it the visible fluid? Or was it the performance?
Definitely fluid buildup around the base of the shock stand where it enters the shock body. And fluid on the garage floor.
This made me recant my decision on buying a bison. I'll keep my 2018 z71 and mod it myself. Btw, King now sells shocks for the ZR2.
Are there any other shocks you can put on the ZR2 that aren't so pricey if you are not typically off roading?
I believe the only aftermarket shocks available for the Colorado ZR2 are manufactured by KING.
Are they not installed on the ISV Infantry Squad Vehicles ?
Man.. that is some bad luck with the DSSV's. I just rolled 40k miles, and no problems yet. I do drive pretty fast pretty frequently on some bad roads and trails, but no problems yet.. maybe because I am still at stock height?
..definitely makes me think twice regarding lift / level when it comes time for new tires.
Travis N i’m glad to hear you had some good luck. So many of us are having difficulties. Keep it stock and it’ll probably last a lifetime. Thanks for subscribing. And thank you for being a positive part of this community.
Mine just started leaking!!!! I'm past warranty. I need suggestions
Thank you for actually stating good hard facts
Thanks for visiting the channel. I appreciate your comment.
@@TrailAdventuresTV yea man, you might have saved me 2k. Lol I'm probably going with some bilsteins.
Unfortunately you are not the only one having this issue. I have a 2018 zr2 and my driver side shock is leaking with only 15848 miles.
I hope the guys at Chevy Performance take care of this issue. To may reports of leaks. Keep us posted on what happens next!
Stock wheels or nah?
I have 27K miles on my ZR2. I have the Eibach 1.25 leveling springs and E rated mud terrains. I wheel my truck hard and have no leaks so far. Ultimately I want to upgrade to King's.
Joe are you still on stock lift and tires?
Damn I had to replace mine within the first 5k. Good news was it was a pretty quick and simple process.
Mountain Hobbler I am hearing so many stories just like yours. It’s great that the dealer was able to swap those out for you. Some of us aren’t so lucky. One of our subscribers recommended king shocks. I’m going to have to look into those. I definitely need some upgrades.
@@TrailAdventuresTV It is a concern of mine when my warranty runs out. I was trying to think how I could make all 4 fail at 35k miles 🤣
I just ordered kings for my zr2 I as well had two dssv leaking so I’m getting away from them because I’m not stock anymore
Hi southtexaszr2 TEXAS87 I’m with you. I think it’s time to put them to rest. Sick of the leaks. Let me
Know how you like the kings.
Just wanted to follow up with you regarding your king shocks and how they are working out for you?
The standard DSSVs are a mess along with the 8 spd transmission. I have regrets about my Bison and thinking of replacing the truck. GM needs to replace these shocks and address other issues. I feel like the ZR2 community is basically rolling R&D testing for them.
Agreed.
What’s the story with the tranny?
I believe the first gm production car to have dssv is the 14-15 camaro z28
I would point out that you didn't appear to use Chevy's leveling kit which specifies it maintains the stock DSSV position. I've got 50k on mine and they've driven over some reasonably rough terrain. I'm aware that some are reporting leaks and that is unfortunate. I drove on roads at speeds I never would have in my Jeep but I wasn't pretending that I was in the Dakar rally and to me it felt much smoother. The aftermarket has come along now that there are 4 model years of ZR2s - King makes a bolt on replacement and if I choose to go nuts that's where I will go.
I agree with you about the DSSV shocks but I’ve had quite a few “factory” off road vehicles. Tacoma Trd Pro , Raptors , ZR2 and currently running 20 Trd Pro 4Runner. I felt the Raptor shocks sucked and my current 2020 4Runner TRD PRO fronts are bad a 20k miles. So In reality if I would have my pick of replacements for factory shocks I think the DSSV are ok for the average weekend warrior. I have a new 2021 ZR2 on order now and I plan on a leveling kit in front and 265/70/17’s and calling it a day. Great informative video. Thank you. Be well ....
Hi Mike! Thanks for stopping by the channel. It sounds like you’ve had some pretty amazing off-road vehicles. And you definitely will not be disappointed With your newest acquisition of the ZR2. Your plan on keeping it mostly factory is probably the best thing to do. It will definitely function as the engineers intended. Continue the adventure my friend and be well.
@@TrailAdventuresTV keeping it stock would be ideal but I can’t leave well enough alone. I won’t be doing anything crazy. Probably 1.25 level and some 32” tires.
I have ZR2 diesel my rear shocks are blown out. Does anyone rebuild them?
Are they rebuildable?
I know this has nothing to do with this video however you installed the six shooter. Where did you mount it.
scott jones That’s a great question. The six shooter is an awesome product. Check out the KC highlights under hood lighting video. And you will see where I mounted it and how I did it. If there is anything that’s unclear. I’ll be happy to answer those questions for you.
@@TrailAdventuresTV where did you get the mounting bracket.
I think your video and comments has convinced me to stay away from the 23 ZR2, AT4X. There are just too many failures. I can get a 23 Denali with 20" tires or an AT4 and then if I feel the shocks/ride quality sucks I can put on Fox or King shocks that are comparable to the Multimatic shocks. I do very little off road riding so the Denali would fit me better.
Those are all great machines. And you can’t go wrong with the comfort of the Dinali. Enjoy the adventure. Thanks for visiting the channel.
I have a Canyon Denali on order, should be in towards the end of the month, but that was my idea as well. Drive it as is, upgrade the suspension later. I might go with bilstein 6112 and 5160 combo when/if they make them for the 2023 model.
@jakegroenig5820 I drove a 4x4 Colorado yesterday. I currently own a 2019 Canyon All Terrain. It's a nice-looking truck with lots of tech. I decided it wasn't for us. Chevy reduced rear leg room by an inch or so and the truck only comes with a short bed. I have a long bed now and love the extra room. The short bed is way too small to be useful. I also didn't love the 2.7l mated to the 8 speed. The 2.7l in the Silverado had a better power band. The truck also didn't ride as well as my 19. I ended up with a full size Silverado LTZ for 5k more. It had a V8 with similar mpg's, a much larger cargo area, a 10 speed transmission, much more storage and interior room and larger screen. Luckily I was able to get 7500 off msrp and 1.9% financing. The new Canyon/Colorado is just coming out now so no real discounts.
@@frankparisi2433 Thanks for the info. We currently drive a 19' Tundra (4x4, 5.7L, 5.5' bed). Due to some changes we are living in an apartment with limited parking at times. We use to own a Tacoma and it fit us well, so we are looking for smaller. But we will have to see what the family says when we do the test drive. If it is too small we might just keep the truck we have. I would not mind the 3.0 Duramax 1/2 ton but 65k+ is a bit steep.
Something has to be up with the chevy performance prices for the "aftermarket" versions of the suspension components. $3,000 for leaf springs? A custom pack from deaver is around $1k. Their long travel dssv in the front for >$3,800? That's too much money for what they're asking. I suppose it's a niche market but they're only asking 2-3x as much as those components are worth.
MrSkyentist I’m with you. You can have a custom built suspension system for those prices.
Great video but I have to say leveling kit do ruin control and shocks that’s for any shock
Replaced my left rear at 750 miles the right rear at 1100. All road miles.
Brian Allen Wow!. I would call that almost immediate failure. The newer ones have been holding up well though I take it
So far so good and I've really put them thru their paces. Figure if they're going to fail it should be while under warranty. It was my understanding there were improvements made to the shocks after so many failed so quickly.
I had one blowout at 36.5k miles so dealer wanted $1300 for one. So I'm swapping to Kings in the Rear
WOW Isaiah! That’s crazy money. Let me know how you like those Kings. It’s going to be a ripper.
Having worked for multimatic I'm amazed they lasted that long
Those shocks were literally designed to be set for a certain track and temperatures not to last. They were meant to be dialed in on a post rig then race at the track . That's about the life expectancy of them
This vehicle doesn't need anymore than maybe a 32 inch tire and buy lighter wheels even at 31 inch tires my zr2 still out chooches my trd off road tacoma any day and most life from any shocks is 30 thousand no matter how expensive they are especially if you beat on them alot and icon shocks have alot of problems look at any tacoma forum they seem to suck
Hey Logan. Thanks for your input. We appreciate you visiting the channel. Glad that you’re very happy with your ZR2 . It’s a great platform
I herd king is making shocks for the zr2 now,not on the website, have to call them
Harley Leonardo Thank you so much for the lead on the king shocks. Do you happen to have a part number? If not a link will do just fine as well.
@@TrailAdventuresTV look up 420 motors! And be message him, he goes wheeling with an other guy with a ZRW and he has king shocks! Front and back
Peak suspension has them
I am getting these (and King rears) put on my ZR2 tomorrow. Three of my four Multimatics are blown. Truck does have 70K miles on it with a ton of that highway driving. Maybe two days a month of moderately hard off-road use since November 2017. I was also given the "these shocks should last the life of the truck" line when I purchased. I was buying the truck no matter what; don't appreciate the line of BS in retrospect.
www.kingshocks.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/INS-G013-2017-+-Chevy-Colorado-ZR2-Front-Coilover.pdf
So a F1 car on a smooth surface to off road? That don't mix. The only couple good things about the Colorado is the 2.8 diesel, allison trans and fully boxed frame!!
10000 miles and I jump the truck often; I am sure I will have issues soon.
What is the average offroad teams budget? The average F1 budget is 300 million a season. Are they close? I would bet budget is the sole reason you don't see them in the offroad arena. If they are better how much better are they and how much would you have to invest in equipment, programing, and materials to switch over, when you already have the equipment ect to make a conventional shock any way you want. Would it be worth it for a team on a small budget like most offroad races are?
I am pretty unimpressed with them if they are having issues so quickly. They were touted as NEVER wearing out. If they have conventional shock seals like it looks like they do, then they WILL wear out no matter what Chevy says.
I bet Dirtking or a similar shop could set you up with a set of Kings or Foxes if you decide to move on from the multimatic shocks. If we are going to have to get new shocks eventually then is the cost of the truck worth it if we can get everything aftermarket other then the front locker?
Tommy Metz these are all great points you bring up. I doubt off-road teams have the same budget. And I did not see anyone running any multimatc shocks. And it does appear that they have very similar skills to any other shots. Therefore. They will wear out. And certainly have. Some quicker than others.
the shocks are not cover under extended warranty
Preach 🙏🏻
zamboni68 thanks. Man I just wish they would make it right for all these people who are having issues.
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