Goyo, Melusi and even Ela have basically better version of smokes ability because you don't plan to kill someone with smoke grenades. You either wanna waste their time or make em move. I believe smoke needs a ability buff in the future cuz he is not on par of the others.
Except smoke can be used on the fly and situation based, instead of having to preselect where they're placed in prep like Mel and Goyo. This also means they can't be countered, plus they can be used as counter utility for plants on top of that. He's simply superior to both of the operators (who are both strong) Ela on the other hand is pretty much only good for information so you've lost me with that one
@deezusnubes the good thing about smokes ability is that it doesn't have any counters, the bad thing which is a massive problem is that it's an active ability and you need to stay alive and not risk ur life unlike the other passive abilities of goyos and melusis gadgets that work even after death. Another way is to just waste the ability before full potential
It is actually understandable to see smoke so low on the win rate side. He is possibly the hardest operator to learn due to the fact that there is no set in stone strategy for his smoke grenades, you kind of just have to know when you need to use them and each time will be unique. You also have the SMG-11 and Mossberg which adds some complexity.
the reason why they are this low is because all the jynxzi and spoit fanboys think they are best off w/out their teammates but then when they die they blame their team and just dont become better
It is kinda sad, that these guys don't even watch MJ or/and Poxonlox. They are just playing Siege as COD otherwise CS, but Siege is not ALL about shooting. But they don't understand it, cuz they are stupid ash mains
The sentiment of ranked being full of cheaters is so true, i got beaten (somehow barely) by the most obvious wall hacker on two occasions in the same session
I fw your videos. I was scared when you were talking about daily uploads again on your channel post, but I’m glad you started doing this series weekly and the reviewing players too
I never feel confident pushing with Deimos because they can see your ping too, right? Is there a bigger delay? Or couldn't they just prefire you when you try to swing him?
That's why you need to play aggressive off the Deimos track, you have the advantage with perfect accuracy on the tracks compared to the timed pings that the defenders get
Smoke shotgun kills are so satisfying. The dirt tunnel strat is nice. Need to be more liberal with using my smokes instead of dying with 2 in the pocket.
That's my problem too - I try to conserve Smoke's grenades and wind up dying or finishing the round with one or two unused. My thinking in this situation would be "There could be only 1-2 people pushing the tunnel, I should save at least one smoke grenade if I need to deny another entrance to the site."
@@AlfieArmanihis utility, ability, and his guns are all great things and even if you don’t have a lot of pings you still will know for certain where 1 person is at almost all times. With enough teamwork you can get everyone pinged and it’s almost impossible for the other team to do anything.
@@Braden-b9h if the site is right. You deimos someone in top floor consulate. What realistically will you do? Yes hes an intel op, thats his ability. Intel. However other ops do it better. Like zero, brava, or dokkabi... all of which have better guns. Zero has one of the strongesr ARs in the game and mp7. Brava has the para which is a very easy to use gun with moderate recoil and a shotgun secondary. Paired with the ability to hack gadgets and cams Dokkabi not only acts as a audio intel but a visual intel aswell. With easily way better guns like the bosg the smg12 and her DMR14 all stronger weapons compared to the AKM or his shotgun. However his shotgun is one of the best in the game. Smoke is a more verstile op on any site and for most sights deimos is not the best intel op to run. He can track 1 person a time. 3 times. Dokkabi can ping an entire team twice audiably and take over cameras. Which is way better than a singular ping. Lion can scan an entire team at once 3 times. Also forces any op besides vigil or in a mute jammer to be still unlike deimos. Lion also has the v308 which is a broken LMG with 0 recoil high damage and a medium ROF
@ damn ima just agree w/ you cause ain’t no way I’m finna read all that Nvm your saying Deimos is worse than brava, brave is 1000x more situation than Deimos in almost every way and the para is good but not nearly as good as the ak-74 and damos has the strongest attacking secondary and ofc I’m not going to play him below on a map with bulletproof floors that’s just dumb. On almost any site one site has a sold floor or ceiling so play around that by targeting the bandit banditing a walk in a soft floor. It’s common since. Smoke is top 5 defenders for anchor with one of the best shotguns and the smg-11 playing him correctly he might be top 3 anchors only below denier and maybe a bandit.
Because of you giving so much deimos tips I've been using him to climb to emrald and it's been working well honestly even on console he's fun to learn and get used too
give smoke 4 instead of three and have the ability to switch between proximity and manual activated ones... or make it like zofia or capitao where you can have 2 prox and 2 manual
for me smoke has been one of my best ops around 75-80% winrate due to his on the go playstyle and there is no plan and ivebeen top tier at games like overwatch and marvel rivals now which are faster faced
I cook with smoke if u know how to use his smokes u can be good even tho im hard stuck copper I still cook I cut rotates and use the smokes to take on someone if two people are on both side I cut one off and take on the other
I feel like a champion with smoke, making head holes, rotates, denying entrance. He’s my most played operator. I’m silver and the only reason im not higher is because on console, the smg 11 has enough recoil to bend me over and clap my cheeks so I miss everything
Smoke has gotten nothing but nerf year after year. Stop giving smg 11s to every op and then nerfing it because too many fraggers have it. Losing his shield, his smokes are too easy to kite without punishment and so on and so on. He's been left behind in the dust
@ you’ve already made a video on Deimos and smoke bro , think of something else . We wanna see more original content dude , and it being in standard like come on dawg , you can queue up for ranked show the true experience, or post a video where you don’t get a hacker if you complain that much . New people don’t want false pretenses from standard when in standard you queue up with literal noobs .
@@shambogiz bruh shut up it’s the internet he literally asked what I would like to see instead and I’m responding . Tell me you’re an idiot without telling me you’re an idiot
Goyo, Melusi and even Ela have basically better version of smokes ability because you don't plan to kill someone with smoke grenades. You either wanna waste their time or make em move. I believe smoke needs a ability buff in the future cuz he is not on par of the others.
Except smoke can be used on the fly and situation based, instead of having to preselect where they're placed in prep like Mel and Goyo.
This also means they can't be countered, plus they can be used as counter utility for plants on top of that. He's simply superior to both of the operators (who are both strong)
Ela on the other hand is pretty much only good for information so you've lost me with that one
@@Poxonlox yeah I was reaching with her
until Twitch, Flores or Brava show up and potentially ruin your setup. Smoke is consistent and reliable.
@deezusnubes the good thing about smokes ability is that it doesn't have any counters, the bad thing which is a massive problem is that it's an active ability and you need to stay alive and not risk ur life unlike the other passive abilities of goyos and melusis gadgets that work even after death. Another way is to just waste the ability before full potential
@@Thomas_Angeloglaz only
It is actually understandable to see smoke so low on the win rate side. He is possibly the hardest operator to learn due to the fact that there is no set in stone strategy for his smoke grenades, you kind of just have to know when you need to use them and each time will be unique. You also have the SMG-11 and Mossberg which adds some complexity.
Yeah the shotgun smg 11 combo takes time to learn
After the SMG11 nerf, the pistol is arguably better.
@@GGwasEZ they nerf it? What did they nerf
@@GGwasEZ lmfao
@@GGwasEZ arguably, but with only having a shotgun you need some "longer range" which the SMG 11 provides
the reason why they are this low is because all the jynxzi and spoit fanboys think they are best off w/out their teammates but then when they die they blame their team and just dont become better
It is kinda sad, that these guys don't even watch MJ or/and Poxonlox. They are just playing Siege as COD otherwise CS, but Siege is not ALL about shooting. But they don't understand it, cuz they are stupid ash mains
Really annoying to play with. Ruined the culture of the game
its insane how perfect that smoke clip on basement is
The sentiment of ranked being full of cheaters is so true, i got beaten (somehow barely) by the most obvious wall hacker on two occasions in the same session
This video gonna be rlly helpful because I love playing smoke
Also smoke and mute have the same weapons and mute is just easier to use because you just have to place them down and play.
I fw your videos. I was scared when you were talking about daily uploads again on your channel post, but I’m glad you started doing this series weekly and the reviewing players too
Thanks man I appreciate the support! Going to be continuing these series for now for sure! Hoping to find more videos I like making this much :)
It’s crazy that smoke is one of the lowest played ops. he has one of the best loadouts
I never feel confident pushing with Deimos because they can see your ping too, right? Is there a bigger delay? Or couldn't they just prefire you when you try to swing him?
There is a delay on the ping they see on you so you have a big advantage!
@@Poxonlox Sick thanks!
The ping they see is more like lion or jackal where it’s a periodic ping instead of live ping
They have a 5 second delay.
that ela comment at the beginning is hella relatable
The fact that the enemy sees you makes it useless to me… when I do it I wait till it’s over…. I know where they’re at….
That's why you need to play aggressive off the Deimos track, you have the advantage with perfect accuracy on the tracks compared to the timed pings that the defenders get
I think I know exactly when this was recorded a few days ago I went against 4 cheaters in a row
Smoke shotgun kills are so satisfying. The dirt tunnel strat is nice. Need to be more liberal with using my smokes instead of dying with 2 in the pocket.
That's my problem too - I try to conserve Smoke's grenades and wind up dying or finishing the round with one or two unused. My thinking in this situation would be "There could be only 1-2 people pushing the tunnel, I should save at least one smoke grenade if I need to deny another entrance to the site."
As a console player, I agree
Your just wrong
If your saying damos and smoke are bad
@@Braden-b9hdeimos is not a objectively strong op/ very situational.
Smoke is a good op with great weapons
@@AlfieArmanihis utility, ability, and his guns are all great things and even if you don’t have a lot of pings you still will know for certain where 1 person is at almost all times. With enough teamwork you can get everyone pinged and it’s almost impossible for the other team to do anything.
@@Braden-b9h if the site is right.
You deimos someone in top floor consulate. What realistically will you do?
Yes hes an intel op, thats his ability. Intel. However other ops do it better. Like zero, brava, or dokkabi... all of which have better guns.
Zero has one of the strongesr ARs in the game and mp7.
Brava has the para which is a very easy to use gun with moderate recoil and a shotgun secondary. Paired with the ability to hack gadgets and cams
Dokkabi not only acts as a audio intel but a visual intel aswell. With easily way better guns like the bosg the smg12 and her DMR14 all stronger weapons compared to the AKM or his shotgun. However his shotgun is one of the best in the game.
Smoke is a more verstile op on any site and for most sights deimos is not the best intel op to run. He can track 1 person a time. 3 times. Dokkabi can ping an entire team twice audiably and take over cameras. Which is way better than a singular ping.
Lion can scan an entire team at once 3 times. Also forces any op besides vigil or in a mute jammer to be still unlike deimos.
Lion also has the v308 which is a broken LMG with 0 recoil high damage and a medium ROF
@ damn ima just agree w/ you cause ain’t no way I’m finna read all that
Nvm your saying Deimos is worse than brava, brave is 1000x more situation than Deimos in almost every way and the para is good but not nearly as good as the ak-74 and damos has the strongest attacking secondary and ofc I’m not going to play him below on a map with bulletproof floors that’s just dumb. On almost any site one site has a sold floor or ceiling so play around that by targeting the bandit banditing a walk in a soft floor. It’s common since. Smoke is top 5 defenders for anchor with one of the best shotguns and the smg-11 playing him correctly he might be top 3 anchors only below denier and maybe a bandit.
Because of you giving so much deimos tips I've been using him to climb to emrald and it's been working well honestly even on console he's fun to learn and get used too
And I already main smoke because of you too, so I appreciate what you do pox keep coming with all the good content I love it bortha.
That's awesome man! Keep up the grind bro 💪
@@Poxonlox thanks man I will
I really need this video to get better
Bro
I am a low rank smoke main and always top-frag, I don't have Deimos unlocked should i save up for him?
Yes, but don't expect ur team to help push with u or help u push a guy u track
when you get trapped by the lesion mine(or any other trap operator) he should be revealed as if you pinged the trap.
I agree 👍
What headphones do you use?
give smoke 4 instead of three and have the ability to switch between proximity and manual activated ones... or make it like zofia or capitao where you can have 2 prox and 2 manual
Hey I’m new to the game and i don’t know which attacker i should get, so who do i get?
Ace seriously
@Akelesték thx
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Omg thank u daddy hehehe
And just like that im offing myself
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for me smoke has been one of my best ops around 75-80% winrate due to his on the go playstyle and there is no plan and ivebeen top tier at games like overwatch and marvel rivals now which are faster faced
Brother you give all these tips but it doesn’t matter because every match is full of cheaters
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What kind of idiots work at ubishit to mark this as offensive
By the the word coward is also flagged
Is this the guy that lost a best of 3 to oozie in 30 mn
That's me! Oozie is hard to beat :)
As a console player I Deimos pistol
smoke is so easy people just can’t control smg11 recoil
Havent you actually reported them "cheaters?"
How do I get the charm
Best content for siege hands down
Need TLAC in my life
I cook with smoke if u know how to use his smokes u can be good even tho im hard stuck copper I still cook I cut rotates and use the smokes to take on someone if two people are on both side I cut one off and take on the other
how are u hard stuck copper unless you solo q
how do I send in a replay into the discord server
The match replay channel
if shaiiko plays deimos 24/7 like me its not the worst atleast on pc
I feel like a champion with smoke, making head holes, rotates, denying entrance. He’s my most played operator. I’m silver and the only reason im not higher is because on console, the smg 11 has enough recoil to bend me over and clap my cheeks so I miss everything
It's not the only reason, but is a factor
@ fair enough, Ill admit I have a little too much fun peeking angles I have no business peeking
i play Smoke on Console and can easily use the SMG11 lol you just need to hit the lab
I've been playing smoke since my first game hes my favorite op ever a little too og
Smoke has gotten nothing but nerf year after year. Stop giving smg 11s to every op and then nerfing it because too many fraggers have it. Losing his shield, his smokes are too easy to kite without punishment and so on and so on. He's been left behind in the dust
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Same to you!
Smoke just is good
Because you sayed so?
Said actually 🤓☝️
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Boo, boring reused video idea
What would you like to see instead? I try to help people get better at the game one video at a time!
@ you’ve already made a video on Deimos and smoke bro , think of something else . We wanna see more original content dude , and it being in standard like come on dawg , you can queue up for ranked show the true experience, or post a video where you don’t get a hacker if you complain that much . New people don’t want false pretenses from standard when in standard you queue up with literal noobs .
Leave my boy alone
@@shambogiz bruh shut up it’s the internet he literally asked what I would like to see instead and I’m responding . Tell me you’re an idiot without telling me you’re an idiot
Yeah I don't think you understand the part where if I play ranked it's hackers every game 😭
I think both magnum and smg-11 are pretty hard to use on console. Low ammo with high mistake punish 🥲 this can be an issue...
BUT WHO CARES MAN POX YOU ARE THE BEST 😘