Alternate History - What if Xytan 'Jar Wattinree Survived?

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  • @hollowsteel
    @hollowsteel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    Honestly the way he died was mildly infuriating. Just imagine how in shock the prophets were when they heard that Xytan was killed not by a spartan but by a grunt and two engineers.

    • @crazy13alex
      @crazy13alex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      ...Activating the single most destructive warhead known and designed by mankind as a species. Still a pretty metal way to go.

    • @mervynlan7727
      @mervynlan7727 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      This is actually a very good lesson for everyone in the Halo universe that the biggest enemy of you is stupidity.

    • @lukethelegend6370
      @lukethelegend6370 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I hated the way he died, honestly it felt like a joke, who the hells idea was it to kill off one of the most powerful elites in the covenant by a grunt and an engineer accidentally activating a bomb

    • @arty_nattie
      @arty_nattie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@lukethelegend6370 I don't wanna make a spoiler, but he still alive

    • @lukethelegend6370
      @lukethelegend6370 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@arty_nattie wait how?

  • @voryndagothDL
    @voryndagothDL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Another alt-universe idea:
    Mendicant Bias never told the Truth, Mercy, or Regret what humanity was, and from the events of Contact Harvest onward, Humanity is ADDED to the Covenant

    • @shreksnow1918
      @shreksnow1918 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Another idea would be what if the information he gave them got leaked causing an early fracturing of the covenant. I think a good chunk of covenant would commit suicide learning that they basically sinned against their gods and can never be forgiven.

    • @ReachStudioPro
      @ReachStudioPro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      One more idea is if the Luminary from Halo Broken Circle found by a San'Shyuum wasn't lost. The Covenant would have found the Halo Rings long before finding humanity and would have probably already wiped out everyone.
      It's kind of funny. No Halo games would have ever existed if that happened.

  • @dinodude6992
    @dinodude6992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    So in this time line, a grunt saved xytan's life....
    Xytan should personally thank that grunt

    • @feralprocessor9853
      @feralprocessor9853 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And makes him the the Deacon of Balahoe.

    • @nekoprankster2184
      @nekoprankster2184 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, and make him his personal assistant. Drag that Grunt around on all his dangerous schemes, no matter how unwilling the grunt is about it.

    • @feralprocessor9853
      @feralprocessor9853 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@nekoprankster2184 I actually doubt that because having a grunt with high rank maybe legendary for lesser grunts but for the Elites it might be questionable.

    • @nekoprankster2184
      @nekoprankster2184 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@feralprocessor9853 I was actually making a joke about Halo: The Flood, where a grunt saves an elite in order to get out of combat only for the elite to make him his personal assistant.

    • @feralprocessor9853
      @feralprocessor9853 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nekoprankster2184 oh okay, I just recently learned a story like that from hiddenxepria.
      Dat joke makes sense to me now :)

  • @quadeong7453
    @quadeong7453 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I persoanlly think Xytan would be more inclined to listen to Thel. Before becoming the Arbiter, Thel seemed to have been a major rising star in the Covenant so I'm sure the two would have meet before that and while I don't think Xytan would see Thel as an equal, he would respect his ambition and talents so I think that might be enough to get Xyan to listen. Though I think Xytan would be far more distrustful and would never create a human-Sangheili Alliance once the war ended.

  • @fluxster1022
    @fluxster1022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I feel like Xytan is a very intelligent individual and I don't think it would be too difficult for the Arbiter to convince him. Even though he held some of his extreme Covenant beliefs, I'm sure after some time of working with the Humans might change some of his prejudices. In which case is pretty much game-over for all the bad guys. Save for maybe the Flood, those slippery little elder species.

  • @gaeagaea8018
    @gaeagaea8018 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    He would be the Supreme Master of the Galaxy! He would definitely forge a new empire akin to that of the Forerunner Empire!

  • @andrewrebholz
    @andrewrebholz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Xytan quite reminds me of Frederick I Barbarossa, Holy Roman Emperor, King of Germany and in his life-time the arguably most experienced, powerful, and tactically skilled monarch Europe had seen in the medieval period. Frederick met his untimely end during the Third Crusade (1190) in a distant land at the head of the largest European force of crusaders ever amassed, nearly 100,000 men. Had he not drowned in the Saleph River in a freak accident and possible cardiac arrest, Frederick's forces would have drastically altered the Third Crusade and likely Christianity's position in the Holy Land. That's where I see the closest resemblance of Frederick I Barbarossa to Xytan in the lore, an extremely popular and effective leader, laid waste by something largely out of their control. The deaths of whom altered the events of history.
    Funny how often real history can play into the lore of our favorite universes.

  • @iona2225
    @iona2225 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Writing a fanfiction about this, he and the Arbiter have a massive power struggle by the end of Halo 3 and threatened yet another civil war within the sanghili. Ironically; a human and a brute avert it, a large section of the Covenant Remnant is reformed into the Accord and its various species homeworlds are given independent status, and the blooding years is far less severe though still quite chaotic. The actual story takes place from the perspective of a family of humans who immigrated to the Accord's capital, the father of which is a scientist and is working with Oni to not only help educated the various alien species how to learn, build and operate their tech, but to be able to do the same to the humans back home.

    • @langstonsmith1322
      @langstonsmith1322 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      whats the name of the fanfic?

    • @iona2225
      @iona2225 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@langstonsmith1322
      Rectification :)

    • @Saucy__Jack
      @Saucy__Jack 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@iona2225 link? Or is this unpublished as of now

    • @ImperialHell172
      @ImperialHell172 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Now that’s something I would love to read

    • @Taekanenko
      @Taekanenko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would love to read this!🙌🏼❤️

  • @mgpmisterk2322
    @mgpmisterk2322 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I think the way he died was pretty good honestly, it was quite humiliating for a person of such great honor and a person with such a massive ego too. I mean he basically spearheaded the entire covenant navy and even after learning of the san shyuum deception continued to want to be a glorified psychopath cargo cult, and at the end, in the most ironic way possible, he was done in by a grunt and a few engineers that got too curious. The irony in all of it is beautiful.

  • @sovietdogmanthing5503
    @sovietdogmanthing5503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This is my favorite elite ever in the covenant

    • @ReachStudioPro
      @ReachStudioPro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's a shame we got so little on him considering the massive importance of him and his actions.

    • @sethison2727
      @sethison2727 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ReachStudioPro yea all we have is the one photo☹️

    • @jasonroberturdanetamunoz9312
      @jasonroberturdanetamunoz9312 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mas de paso está muerto​@@ReachStudioPro

  • @DivineHellas
    @DivineHellas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    He was literally the Covenants “Alexander the Great”

  • @Taekanenko
    @Taekanenko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I honestly love this alternate story, it was very interesting and in character!!🙌🏼❤️

  • @tjanimations7932
    @tjanimations7932 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Bro I thought in my head I was like I wanna watch some halo and u posted

    • @covenantcanon7970
      @covenantcanon7970  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am to please! 🤙🏻

    • @tjanimations7932
      @tjanimations7932 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey I got a question what cutscene was at 6:39 to 6:41 I liked that one

    • @covenantcanon7970
      @covenantcanon7970  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s a cutscene from Spartan Ops. Episode two I think?

  • @jamesvarela233
    @jamesvarela233 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Would be awesome if we get either more Elite focused comics or an actual Elite focused campaign maybe something similar to Halo Reach where we get like Noble 6, customize and personalize your own Sangheili.

  • @randomvidsguy4118
    @randomvidsguy4118 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love this video I always hope this video will come out thank you and congrats on 10k bro much love to you

  • @Yeet-dt7ro
    @Yeet-dt7ro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bruh I love your channel I feel like smaller channels make the best content

  • @samuelvanegas442
    @samuelvanegas442 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think he and Thel would be at peace with humanity honestly. He is grounded and would listen to Vadamee

  • @Basilisk2077
    @Basilisk2077 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Wattinree vs Atriox would be very epic. Atriox would have to be at his peak power and performance. He wouldn’t be allowed to make one mistake.
    I sort of do wish Atriox killed Wattinree in an epic fleet battle and took over his fleet, instead of Wattinree dying so anticlimactically. That would really convey to everyone that he’s one inconceivably bad-ass brute.

    • @DivineHellas
      @DivineHellas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It wouldn’t be an epic battle since atriox would be completely demolished within seconds. However Chief vs Wytanree would definitely have been something.

    • @lonecalzone6901
      @lonecalzone6901 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DivineHellas idk man wattinree is a damn skyscraper of an elite and i wouldn’t be surprised if he was general grievous

  • @roastingminer6919
    @roastingminer6919 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Him being alive could have single handedly carried alot of the campaigne, the wat ge got killed is even worse.

  • @darkvex7974
    @darkvex7974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This Will be fun and I love all your videos

  • @enclavehardin586
    @enclavehardin586 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was a good video and I heavily agree what the legendary elite will do. Specially what he will do to humanity.

  • @jamesvarela233
    @jamesvarela233 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tbh I do like this what if it does make me think of the other possibilities and with Xytan’s eventual fall. Either way if Xytan betrays the UNSC and Swords of Sangheilios early or not Xytan would eventually fall including other forces and key factors that would be at play here.

  • @shreksnow1918
    @shreksnow1918 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was really cool. You should do one for what if Tartarus listened to the arbiter and guilty spark.

  • @brendancharcoal5958
    @brendancharcoal5958 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Who else would love to see a battle between Xytan ‘Jar Wattinree versus Atriox
    Both are the absolute best of their species and tactical geniuses

    • @YTTroll69
      @YTTroll69 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wattinree would demolish atriox

  • @shipmastererovolir7592
    @shipmastererovolir7592 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Halo alternate history 👌🔥
    I'm gonna need more of those

  • @calebmarchand2512
    @calebmarchand2512 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Imo xytan probably would learn that humanity are the reclaimers and that they are the true holders of the mantle of responsibility and would actually allow humanity to survive all in spite of the prophets

  • @skintChannel
    @skintChannel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If zhaitan lived than the events of ghost of Onyx would have been different meaning Kurt still been alive

  • @shreksnow1918
    @shreksnow1918 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should do an alternate history on what would happen if the banished found the ring from ce before humans or the covenant got there. There could also be one for what would happen if the brutes sided with humans in the great schism.
    You should also do a joke video for what if female elites looked like they did in all the weird fanart. That would be hilarious!

  • @shreksnow1918
    @shreksnow1918 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I thought he did still believe in the great journey. If so then he would activate the rings killing everything.

    • @covenantcanon7970
      @covenantcanon7970  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well he still believed in SOME aspects of the Covenant faith. Whether or not that includes the Great Journey, I can’t say. Though if he did, it wouldn’t matter. By eradicating humanity, Xytan would lack the means of lighting the Halos.

    • @shreksnow1918
      @shreksnow1918 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok thanks. You should do one where he would be in charge of the fleet that followed the pillar of autumn to the ring and what would happen. It would be interesting to see what would happen if he were to fail and become the arbiter instead of thel.
      You should also do one for what if 343 went with Bungies idea to make the forerunners ancient humans. There could be scenarios like the storm faction finding the didact only to learn that he’s an ancient human and what that would do to their faith. Also, there could be a scenario in which guilty spark tells the arbiter and other elites that their gods were actually ancient humans. This would be much cooler than what 343 did, and the forerunner human war wouldn’t have happened because they would be the same species changing the outcome of the war with the flood.

    • @mantis9693
      @mantis9693 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@covenantcanon7970 He and the elites he allied with still followed the Great Journey and wanted to form a new covenant without the prophets.

  • @K663-j1k
    @K663-j1k ปีที่แล้ว

    I dislike aliens, but I recognize a GIGACHAD when I see one.

  • @employervizor1559
    @employervizor1559 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    8:35
    Ok I wish Atriox Fights Xyatan

    • @DivineHellas
      @DivineHellas 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Atriox would be slaughtered within seconds

  • @dartcurt4213
    @dartcurt4213 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    if he was in the games James Earl Jones should voice him.

    • @BraxdonSillyman
      @BraxdonSillyman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Get this man at 343 right now

  • @JVCK_UK
    @JVCK_UK 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    They should make tv series based in the mid point of the human covenant war using him and showing how his fleets fought against humans etc

  • @lonelystarboy
    @lonelystarboy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh i am ready to see this👏👏🔥

  • @amazedthrower6450
    @amazedthrower6450 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh Going to love alternate history

    • @amazedthrower6450
      @amazedthrower6450 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      One more question how long does sangheili live for

    • @CovenantArmada
      @CovenantArmada 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@amazedthrower6450 Over 200yrs.

  • @27OO91
    @27OO91 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not sure about the human race being endangered or exciting with Chief still around. I wonder why he didn't say anything about Chief

  • @agentnukaz1715
    @agentnukaz1715 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Xytan is so much cooler then July madama, i wouldnt mind if they retconned his death, hes that badass

  • @SgtPhoenix9635
    @SgtPhoenix9635 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think SGT Johnson would have lived longer

  • @iunnor
    @iunnor 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wasn't there growing curiosity among the elites around why humans weren't ever offered a place in the covenant?

    • @wildbeast3106
      @wildbeast3106 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ya but I think we know why they probably weren’t allowed in

  • @jamesconner5917
    @jamesconner5917 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can we get more brute lore I know there is not a lot but can you talk about more of the less know stuff like the grave maker, tosser, legion master, war master, Tronto, and anything else you can find on them am a big fan of the brutes and wish more people would talk about them.

  • @wildbeast3106
    @wildbeast3106 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What music is playing in the background ?

  • @Minimumholloway
    @Minimumholloway ปีที่แล้ว

    We’d get another boss fight.

  • @rektnoob101
    @rektnoob101 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Xytan 'jar wattinree would delete the banished

  • @zerotheg0d330
    @zerotheg0d330 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude idc what the lore behind Xytan is , no WAY he's beating Atriox and the Banished. Jega Rdomnai probably would've assassinated him early on in the conflict

  • @Blitzkrieg23
    @Blitzkrieg23 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    xytan 'jar wattinree vs EndGame thanos Just Wish.

  • @ltsi1294
    @ltsi1294 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    He was the grand admiral thrawn of halo

  • @happydog2905
    @happydog2905 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok but what if xytan actually listened to the arbiter and agreed to a real truce and partner led the sangheili

  • @ironkell6447
    @ironkell6447 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if bassus wasn't guarding a laser drill

  • @shadowsage3382
    @shadowsage3382 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly i think xytan would hear thel out. Xytan being as incredibly intelligent and politically smart, he would understand that humanity isnt the biggest threat and understand that the prophets were actually hurting the sangheli race. Knowing Thel and xytan are very inclined to their tribal ways they would actually probably work together, now Xytan might be a little hostile towards the humans because of old ways and the way things were, but i think it wouldve took him some time to adjust.

  • @trinstonmichaels7062
    @trinstonmichaels7062 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Trinston was here..

  • @nadiagonzalez6176
    @nadiagonzalez6176 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love it I want more what if in halo

  • @chenli9778
    @chenli9778 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it Possible He became some sort of Covenant Emperor?

  • @ChristySusie-f4w
    @ChristySusie-f4w หลายเดือนก่อน

    Carter Extension

  • @ColinPia-f9l
    @ColinPia-f9l หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mitchell Plains

  • @EdnaSuzanne-i2e
    @EdnaSuzanne-i2e หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hessel Lights

  • @LarryWheeler-j8z
    @LarryWheeler-j8z หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shanna Dale

  • @DawnWile-j6u
    @DawnWile-j6u หลายเดือนก่อน

    Marques Junction

  • @abmlr_productions9801
    @abmlr_productions9801 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nah, Thel Vadam is better in my opinion, he is cooler and they actually have a Mega Bloks figure of him. But imagine if Xytan however you say his name joined the Arbiter, that would be cool, but alas, he ded boi.

  • @FunkLillian-z3c
    @FunkLillian-z3c หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sidney Landing

  • @Nolongerhereanymore
    @Nolongerhereanymore 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    THE ELITES ARE COOL
    ELITES LAYS EGGS!?!?!?!
    THAT NEEDDS TO BE RETCONED!

    • @iamaspaceman8533
      @iamaspaceman8533 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They don’t?

    • @Nolongerhereanymore
      @Nolongerhereanymore 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Someone in 343 said that
      But i don't believe it
      But I know JACKALS AND GRUNTS LAY EGGS

    • @iamaspaceman8533
      @iamaspaceman8533 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nolongerhereanymore jackals grunts and drones do elites are mammals

    • @Nolongerhereanymore
      @Nolongerhereanymore 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      mammals means they make love
      And mother has baby by giving birth
      I know

    • @iamaspaceman8533
      @iamaspaceman8533 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nolongerhereanymore i didn’t say you didn’t know what mammals were if I thought that I would have explained it but all is said was that there mammals

  • @josephfox9076
    @josephfox9076 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I tink is killed by Spartans in Reach ?#HaloBrazil

  • @JanisZiegelbauer-u9z
    @JanisZiegelbauer-u9z หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kuhic Green

  • @AliceJanet-h5i
    @AliceJanet-h5i หลายเดือนก่อน

    583 Jade Rest

  • @CathleenOdea-z9v
    @CathleenOdea-z9v หลายเดือนก่อน

    Marlon Branch

  • @RolandViola-i2m
    @RolandViola-i2m หลายเดือนก่อน

    Luisa Extension

  • @secondarytrollaccount
    @secondarytrollaccount ปีที่แล้ว

    He shouldn't have even been a character if they weren't going to make him atleast 2% relevant. Arbiter took his spot but if they weren't even going to mention him once in the games why not let arbiter have his title since he wasn't exiled and basically the dig bick in charge of destroying humanity and was doing it. Until the prophets kicked one of their best and brightest out of the battle for not solving an impossible problem at the time, on top of taking their literal best and brightest out of the fight for being too sigma. He couldn't have known that the literal God of war in halo was really bout it. He knew demons weren't to be underestimated, however, considering he had been responsible for killing numerous Spartans including noble six. If not by hand then by proxy orders. I know having xytan wreck truths fleets would make halo 3 boring, but still they could have fleshed him out at all. Maybe an elite could have been spreading rumors of his death in a non combat area or they could say " FOR XYTAN" while charging at brutes or flood.

  • @yournakomp-n3z
    @yournakomp-n3z หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bailey Summit

  • @kaidenworrell7828
    @kaidenworrell7828 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish u mentioned the didact

  • @FredMyrna-x2f
    @FredMyrna-x2f หลายเดือนก่อน

    Leuschke Divide

  • @Okino569
    @Okino569 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if he fought the arbiter or chief

    • @CovenantArmada
      @CovenantArmada 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's not stated but since their both still alive i doubt it lol.

  • @MurielCannon-h8c
    @MurielCannon-h8c หลายเดือนก่อน

    Landen Row

  • @GeraldSiragusa-l4h
    @GeraldSiragusa-l4h หลายเดือนก่อน

    Olson Parkways

  • @josephfox9076
    @josephfox9076 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi guys

  • @AckermannDawn
    @AckermannDawn หลายเดือนก่อน

    92454 Gusikowski Hollow

  • @kristahatton6895
    @kristahatton6895 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have to admit this battle would be glorious and bloody. In this matter the grunt that saves the addermal would be very rewarded for his actions. I wonder what would that be? Greater than yim Yap? As for the beliefs of this addmeral I agree with the fact he hates humanity just as much as the covenant. This fact would be the unbalancing of the fighting. The arbiters forces would be underpowered compared to his forces without any doubt. I wonder how this would go down? Glory to clan and kin. Let's get him to glorious standings Covenant Cannon.

  • @tyreecebaker6600
    @tyreecebaker6600 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍

  • @McCarthyTernence
    @McCarthyTernence หลายเดือนก่อน

    29358 Gardner Fort

  • @palmerpiper1797
    @palmerpiper1797 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chief solos covanent

  • @jasonroberturdanetamunoz9312
    @jasonroberturdanetamunoz9312 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

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