Hope you all Enjoyed this type of video I want to start doing more stuff like this so I can help others understand what is changing with characters. Much love to you all 💜
Very clear explanation man, the upgrade on his combo dmg with the iai stomp is cool and i guess they want people to use perfurmer 1+2 instead of wr2 to frame trap
i feel like instead of a nerf you can consider this as adjusment, and this adjustment resulted to victor having a consistent wall carry hahahahaah. i like the addition of iai stance 4,2 as a combo extender. and honestly if you have a decent fundamentals, the changes wont really matter that much. and now im enjoying playing wth victor a lot more.
Exactly while it is a nerf to how brain dead Victor could be played now we have a Victor that has use of his stances since most top level victors just relied on poking, and WR2 into counter hit launch. Now we can explore more within both perfumer and iai stance on top of using the great mids and poking we already have. What a time to be a Victor player we love it over here!!
@@Lotus_awakening I’m really glad because Victor mirror matches have always been extremely boring for me since most only use like two moves. I’ve only ever fought maybe 2-3 Victors so far throughout my playtime who understood the character fundamentally and actually used all his tools, not even joking. 😂
@@professoremil lmao even in some of vids where I played some other victors we were just doing the same thing. It’s insane how we all just played the same
These changes open up so much more of his game plan now I’m excited to see what tech is out there for him. Appreciate you enjoying the video, comments like this always make my day!
I’m surprised to notice a lot of players don’t even respect his plus frames on WR+2 and the stance transition ironically feels like even more reason for them not to, so I personally won’t be using the follow-up much until I’ve conditioned my opponent to not press. I’m saying this because I’ve had matches where it somehow backfired and I got counterhit out of my own plus frames.
@@professoremil a lot don’t but that’s why when you go into stance after WR2 you check them with Iai 1 since it will jail if they decide to press, the only thing that beats it is power crush
@@Lotus_awakening I think that what you described is most likely the issue I was running into a lot because I have a bad habit of immediately using his armored 3 on opponents who are aggressive/don’t respect instead of just stance jabbing them with 1. I gotta stop expecting the armor to come out fast enough. 😂
@@genzo454 hm, im in practice right now and it aint there under main techs or all. Oh- i did find it lol, its near the middle under special move- weird place to bury it but thanks to you i looked extra hard lmao
Overall, I think Victor is in a good place. He still has some notable troubles, but that mostly comes down to hyper aggro characters or ultra high evasion characters. His Raven and Reina matchups are in a way better place now.
Glad you’re positive about the changes.. I still think it was dumb beefing ever single one of his best moves then locking up his new best stuff behind stances.. Also the parries are pretty non realistic. I played so many matches and they almost never hit. Still love the character.
The more I’ve played with new Victor I can see his strengths but his weaknesses are getting a little out of hand with how basically everything he does can be side stepped even more now which sucks but we can find ways around it, the parry you speak of I swear man I haven’t got it to work at all, only the B2 parry has worked a couple of times. Quite possibly one of the most pointless buffs he got
@@Lotus_awakening Completely agree with you.. I my fujin now, hoping tomorrow make my way to tekken king.. For better or worse, I’ll see you at the top! 🫡
as a victor player, I'm glad to see the PC and WR2 nerfed. i felt bad using them at times because they were SO good, but you can't NOT use them. now they're valid options without being ridiculous and you have more reason to try other strategies.
Correct his lows have always been the weakest part to his game plan but it’s not the worse thing in the world ya know, just have to be more cautious with throwing them out
Still going to one and done you guys win or lose. But I as a Victor hater do like this direction for him and fighting you guys have gotten a BIT more fun but just a bit ha ha.
I would argue that you "still getting +5" on running 2 it is the same +2, considering your fastest option is i13. If it was +2, victor had no option but powercrushing
if i may say this one isn't really a nerf per se it's more like reworking the character into something he's supposed to be in the first place i can attest, as a vic main, his exposiong damage is too overtuned with big invul window if you play it right not to mention his wr2 can only be +5 if you get into the stance, my speculation is tekken project want Vic to have that "ravenny" feel to him since he's raven's superior, so why not turn him into a mixup and fishing for CH character (not saying he wasn't before 1.05) i still think his d4 needs a bit of buff, that shit is too weak for a non high crush d4
@@rakunbuncit2324 yeah that’s why I said WR2 got nerfed but it got buffed because you can just go into IAI stance now to become +5. Imo I don’t think Victor is a mixup character. He fits more in the CH fishing category now while he has some decent mixups. His mixups are high risk low reward and in a game like Tekken 8 it’s not worth it half the time. I was convinced by a God Of Destruction Victor, that he fits more towards the CH game now which is better imo. Victor still has good enough buttons to chip away at the opponent and he has a good throw game as well. His heat game did get slightly nerfed but still solid. I will say D4 is a bad low, launch punishable for a lot of characters that have a 14 frame launcher, bad damage on the low as well. Lows are victors weak points and his mixup game is super meh imo, character has fallen off a lot since the nerfs but I’ll continue to play him because adaption is the only option for the Victor.
@@Lotus_awakening same victor as a character is excellent design wise but he just got overhated because noctis still lives rent free in ex tek7 players' head
Yes I’ve always said lower ranks Victor is harder to use higher ranks you start to really see how Victor will be played when you’re going against ppl that respect what he has. Victor imo has got better even though he got nerfed in some aspects but now allowing him to cancel into iai stance off of WR2 is so good with the mixups you can apply.
Yeah we can definitely do that plus anyone here that mains Victor as well could help, fighting games in general are fun to learn and having others help is a big plus!!
He was nerfed in this most recent patch for Tekken. He got a lot of adjustments to his best moves but with the amount of nerfs he received. Victor ending up receiving a lot of buffs that change the way he is supposed to be played. Victor relies more on his stance mixups then prior because that is what they want Victor to be about in this new update
Dispersion is what he says during his rage art, expulsion is what I said but it probably sounded like espression. In all I don’t think anyone cared if I said it right or not 😂
Hope you all Enjoyed this type of video I want to start doing more stuff like this so I can help others understand what is changing with characters. Much love to you all 💜
Very clear explanation man, the upgrade on his combo dmg with the iai stomp is cool and i guess they want people to use perfurmer 1+2 instead of wr2 to frame trap
Yeah I guess they do as well, if this was the way they intended for Victor to be played then it’s going to be fun applying everything that’s new!!
You sir are the goat, I did not know about the iai stance up is teleport until your video thank you.
Thank you my guy, hope you enjoyed the video and learned something from it!!!
i feel like instead of a nerf you can consider this as adjusment, and this adjustment resulted to victor having a consistent wall carry hahahahaah. i like the addition of iai stance 4,2 as a combo extender. and honestly if you have a decent fundamentals, the changes wont really matter that much. and now im enjoying playing wth victor a lot more.
Exactly while it is a nerf to how brain dead Victor could be played now we have a Victor that has use of his stances since most top level victors just relied on poking, and WR2 into counter hit launch. Now we can explore more within both perfumer and iai stance on top of using the great mids and poking we already have. What a time to be a Victor player we love it over here!!
@@Lotus_awakening
I’m really glad because Victor mirror matches have always been extremely boring for me since most only use like two moves. I’ve only ever fought maybe 2-3 Victors so far throughout my playtime who understood the character fundamentally and actually used all his tools, not even joking. 😂
@@professoremil lmao even in some of vids where I played some other victors we were just doing the same thing. It’s insane how we all just played the same
Good video showing Victor further in depth with a new flow chart or suggested new combos would be cool. None the less great video
Yeah was definitely thinking about do that since he has new routes now. Appreciate you watching the vid it means a lot!!
You explained it well. I needed to know what changed in Victor. Thanks mate.
No problem man I appreciate you taking the time to comment. Hope you enjoyed the video!
I found Iai stance 2 on ch guarantees a f1+2 for chunky dmg too (56 I think) loving the new Victor!
Good find definitely going to be adding that to my arsenal as well now!!! New Victor is awesome
As a fellow Victor main, these changes will definitely make playing him more fun. Love the thorough review
These changes open up so much more of his game plan now I’m excited to see what tech is out there for him. Appreciate you enjoying the video, comments like this always make my day!
Bro loved the video, as always great content. Baguette Gang UP right now
Appreciate it man, always see you commenting out here. The constant support is greatly appreciated
@@Lotus_awakening Its nothing, I legit fuck wit the content champ, keep doing what you doing. I'll keep the likes & comments coming.
@@RobC2201_ I appreciate it man, if I ever make it big with this you’ll definitely be one of the OGs to see it all grow
That perfumer 1+2 frame trap is going to be pretty nasty.
Ong it is the more buffs for Victor the better 😈
I did it to a Steve on accident before knowing the new punch parry even existed and it won me the set. 😂
@@professoremil I’ve been using it a lot lately, nasty indeed
I just button mash like an idiot 😂
Aye man mashing is a part of fighting games lmao
WR 2 is a buff, before, i got close with plus frames and didn't know what to do next, now you have good way to apply stance mix up
I usually did 1+2 for counter
I’m surprised to notice a lot of players don’t even respect his plus frames on WR+2 and the stance transition ironically feels like even more reason for them not to, so I personally won’t be using the follow-up much until I’ve conditioned my opponent to not press. I’m saying this because I’ve had matches where it somehow backfired and I got counterhit out of my own plus frames.
@@professoremil a lot don’t but that’s why when you go into stance after WR2 you check them with Iai 1 since it will jail if they decide to press, the only thing that beats it is power crush
@@Lotus_awakening
I think that what you described is most likely the issue I was running into a lot because I have a bad habit of immediately using his armored 3 on opponents who are aggressive/don’t respect instead of just stance jabbing them with 1. I gotta stop expecting the armor to come out fast enough. 😂
1.05 victor is better and harder to deal with. I think he is still top 10.
TIL focus gives you counterhit smdh I literally have no idea where to find that move's info in game, so thank you lol
If you go to the bottom of the movelist, it shows Ki-charge and in the tooltip it tells you that it gives a counter hit effect
@@genzo454 hm, im in practice right now and it aint there under main techs or all. Oh- i did find it lol, its near the middle under special move- weird place to bury it but thanks to you i looked extra hard lmao
Overall, I think Victor is in a good place. He still has some notable troubles, but that mostly comes down to hyper aggro characters or ultra high evasion characters. His Raven and Reina matchups are in a way better place now.
Right I agree his MUs with Reina and raven become slightly better now
Glad you’re positive about the changes.. I still think it was dumb beefing ever single one of his best moves then locking up his new best stuff behind stances.. Also the parries are pretty non realistic. I played so many matches and they almost never hit. Still love the character.
The more I’ve played with new Victor I can see his strengths but his weaknesses are getting a little out of hand with how basically everything he does can be side stepped even more now which sucks but we can find ways around it, the parry you speak of I swear man I haven’t got it to work at all, only the B2 parry has worked a couple of times. Quite possibly one of the most pointless buffs he got
@@Lotus_awakening Completely agree with you.. I my fujin now, hoping tomorrow make my way to tekken king.. For better or worse, I’ll see you at the top! 🫡
@@sharma4826 yes sir just hit Tekken king and this is where we get the sweats now. GL on your journey to Tekken king
On top of great wall carry & big damage, he has more stance mixups & new tools? I'm so hyped to play him
I agree I have been seeing so much with him I cant wait to get back into ranked with victor
Subbing for victor content, great video
Thanks I appreciate the comment hope you enjoyed the video
as a victor player, I'm glad to see the PC and WR2 nerfed. i felt bad using them at times because they were SO good, but you can't NOT use them. now they're valid options without being ridiculous and you have more reason to try other strategies.
the low in this charachter is very bad they need to work with that more
Correct his lows have always been the weakest part to his game plan but it’s not the worse thing in the world ya know, just have to be more cautious with throwing them out
Still going to one and done you guys win or lose. But I as a Victor hater do like this direction for him and fighting you guys have gotten a BIT more fun but just a bit ha ha.
I would argue that you "still getting +5" on running 2 it is the same +2, considering your fastest option is i13. If it was +2, victor had no option but powercrushing
It's not he's still a cool ass character and my main ❤
if i may say this one isn't really a nerf per se
it's more like reworking the character into something he's supposed to be in the first place
i can attest, as a vic main, his exposiong damage is too overtuned with big invul window if you play it right
not to mention his wr2 can only be +5 if you get into the stance, my speculation is tekken project want Vic to have that "ravenny" feel to him since he's raven's superior, so why not turn him into a mixup and fishing for CH character (not saying he wasn't before 1.05)
i still think his d4 needs a bit of buff, that shit is too weak for a non high crush d4
@@rakunbuncit2324 yeah that’s why I said WR2 got nerfed but it got buffed because you can just go into IAI stance now to become +5. Imo I don’t think Victor is a mixup character. He fits more in the CH fishing category now while he has some decent mixups. His mixups are high risk low reward and in a game like Tekken 8 it’s not worth it half the time. I was convinced by a God Of Destruction Victor, that he fits more towards the CH game now which is better imo. Victor still has good enough buttons to chip away at the opponent and he has a good throw game as well. His heat game did get slightly nerfed but still solid. I will say D4 is a bad low, launch punishable for a lot of characters that have a 14 frame launcher, bad damage on the low as well. Lows are victors weak points and his mixup game is super meh imo, character has fallen off a lot since the nerfs but I’ll continue to play him because adaption is the only option for the Victor.
@@Lotus_awakening same
victor as a character is excellent design wise
but he just got overhated because noctis still lives rent free in ex tek7 players' head
Soooo they want victor to be a mixologist
Victor must be one with the mix!!!
French Sir Mix-A-Lot 😎
So basically I gotta use perfume in ppls face n stance switch cancel with certain pokes gotcha
NOW YOURE PLAYING VICTOR MY FRIEND 😂
He's just as strong if not stronger in high elo. In every other elo he's nerfed because people won't respect your buttons and traps.
Yes I’ve always said lower ranks Victor is harder to use higher ranks you start to really see how Victor will be played when you’re going against ppl that respect what he has. Victor imo has got better even though he got nerfed in some aspects but now allowing him to cancel into iai stance off of WR2 is so good with the mixups you can apply.
He got some nerfs but at least he requires a little more brain power to use.
Right at least now he requires some more brain power which is cool because it will show how we adapt to the new Victor
I know this is random but im new to tekken as a victor main ill like to get some pratice with you or any victor main plz
Yeah we can definitely do that plus anyone here that mains Victor as well could help, fighting games in general are fun to learn and having others help is a big plus!!
Sorry when was he nerfed? It was buffed to oblivion
He was nerfed in this most recent patch for Tekken. He got a lot of adjustments to his best moves but with the amount of nerfs he received. Victor ending up receiving a lot of buffs that change the way he is supposed to be played. Victor relies more on his stance mixups then prior because that is what they want Victor to be about in this new update
EXPULSION NOT ESPRESSION.
Dispersion is what he says during his rage art, expulsion is what I said but it probably sounded like espression. In all I don’t think anyone cared if I said it right or not 😂
@Lotus_awakening No DISPERSION is when he does DB1+2.
During the rage art he says: "Soyons efficace" (Let's do this in Style)
@@EraseTime he says it at the end of the rage art, at the beginning he does say what you wrote.
They killed him they didn’t buff him
@@Ttvipunishher they buffed stances which was cool. Victor imo isn’t dead he just requires more thinking then he previously did
Yall just have to learn how to play tekken now, its not that bad
No one said it was bad lmaooo I personally think the changes make him better because you have to hold his mix now coming from his stances 😂
Unacceptable, we Victor mains don’t do that here. 😤
@@professoremil kkkkkkkkkk im just joking no hate in the FGC...
Hahahahhauahauahahaha
This, but to Devil Jin players
No we don't. I literally play the same with the same win percentage as before.