As For Napster it's nothing like it, as it revolutionizes everything I mean think about being able to create a new Elivis or underrated artist who died before his time, Jimmy Hendrix is coming back
Solid video. I could say a lot about AI, I think the core of it is this; AI is ultimately a tool for capital to deskill and cut labor cost. It’s development and deployment is entirely in service to that goal. In context of the music industry, it’s easy to imagine how the big kids might leverage this technology. Perhaps streaming platforms like Spotify start to saturate playlists with AI generated music to reduce royalty cost. Major labels bringing artists back from the dead, leveraging their catalogs to create “Frankenstein” style material.
deskill deez nuts nigga .. maybe the people that show u how to use it want u to lose .. the real power of ai will take your personal database (that only you have, not downloaded info from the internet) a PERSONAL ai assistant .. learn how it works you will be ahead goofy .. i know its not easy for everyone to catch and my problem is being smart to the point i get mad when people dont understand shit that i do .. dont use the main databases these websites use to generate basic ass beats .. use your database "this wav. file is an example of a trippy 808 bass loop/ this wav is an example of a EDM synth etc" "now u tell ai .. "based off our database use a 808 bass with trap keys to make a beat at 120 tempo in my style .. it will go through your database of all the beats u made and say "this guy uses these sounds to make this style of beat .. instead of u sitting there doing it" now u can say "make 100 beatswith my style" while producing a new sound from scratch in real life without ai ..to feed it the new sound you want to innovate .. this is an innovation tool not a "deskiller" ive only increased my skills working with ai
@@DJPain1 there are only 8 billion people in this world who are able to think and find new ideas. But if scientists' estimates are correct, 2030 humans have succeeded in creating AGI (artificial general intelligence) (human equivalent intelligence) in 2050 humans can have 100 billion AGI who are able to think and invent new ideas. To help human evolution. Maybe humans just need to focus on eating , drinking , sleeping , worshiping , caring for their families in 2100 . Maybe in 2100 people work as a hobby.
We are just not advanced enough as a society to keep up with the technology we are making. They didn't jump on streaming just because they wanted the money, they did it because they couldn't stop what Napster started. With AI the cat is out of the bag, just like Napster they not gonna stop it, we just don't know where it's going. I think it will lead to a more radical/thinking art movement and not just artists chasing the bag.
I can see Ai taking over the sink, licensing, space for TV and film. This is why we need a producers union in my opinion. Aren’t enough signatures to limit the reach I can see a lot of film creators using AI beats but hey, I had a fight coming for it 💎💎💎
I think it’ll all depend on the listeners and fans. There will be people in the future that will indulge in AI generated music; Me personally I can’t really see myself “being a fan” of an AI producer let alone AI musician. Soon enough when everything becomes automatically generated we will eventually seek for human made art.
The new philosophy is that the artist’s voice is now an instrument. People who are actually lyrical and or are good at identifying artists lyrical patterns can eventually make songs possibly better (based on consensus) than the artist. What’s next (because no one can stop someone from posting things on TH-cam and other places) is that artists need to simply license their voices out or there need to be new laws on propriety over one’s voice. I don’t see it disappearing I just see two possibly three crowds forming, those who are completely against it, those who love it and everyone else between.
@@Matt_Steel0 ai is just an algorithm created by humans. Imperfections are baked in. Having said that, ai speeds up a process that would take weeks, months and sometimes years. So a producer may be able to run through hundreds of tracks and make corrections within a single day.
A great point: the ones who have trouble relating to their audience are the ones who will struggle the most when AI comes around.. Building a community with genuine relationships is more important than ever
Once upon a time, there was a generation of musical artists who helped their fans to appreciate music that consisted of REAL instruments REAL singing voices and REAL songwriters. may there ever be communities out there that will ever embrace the REAL vs the fake
@aM Ess just the way I see it. Honestly I am not even a big fan of autotune. Probably shouldn't have even expressed my views in this thread. Just been hearing more and more about how AI is having an impact on the music industry nowadays. And not really all that surprised. Imagine forking out your hard earned money to go to a concert to enjoy your favorite musical artist, only to see a DAW on stage and nothing else. Care to disagree, but bud you can keep that crap. I wholeheartedly agree with your observance on creating relationships. But with what? Software, or human beings? Back in the day talented human musicians would do that directly with their human constituents. And not with some computer between them.
What's funny is the industry actually embraced it first bc normal ppldidnt have access like this until the first ai rapper got signed. They created the problem never forget that they are already behind all this before they put it out to the world to see
100 percent agreed! For the producers who don't have a good personality or reputation, AI is definitely gonna replace them. Anyone can make a decent beat, but it takes good character and proper influence to sustain yourself in this music business. If you have keep your honor and maintain your consistency, you are gonna be fine. But the ones just getting started, you might want to get on this AI train because based off what UMG is investing in, AI is gonna be here to stay. Great video.
It is actually worst... just by choosing from the list of AI generated beats, images, answers . . . wathever... we are TEACHING AI what Humans preferr. . . .so just by using it, AI is getting exponentially "wiser" and with that, humans just gave birth to a superior intelligence rendering themselves obsolete. Apocalyptic? definitively.
It’s kinda like a new version of sampling. It’s not directly sampling or interpolating, but using LLMs full of samples to recreate the type of content. I think some ruling will set a precedent for any future cases.
ai cannot be copywritten. that shit makes no sense. its a computer making it. not drake or weeknd or universal. the person using ai should grt credit. if someone sounds exactly like weeknd and makes a song… they srent copywriting his voice. its someone elses. ai cannot be owned by anyone unless companies start twisting/manipulating the law to do so
@@ohmyside9361 If they prove they used copyrighted music to train the AI them that'll give them a case. A computer doesn't make it from scratch, you have to feed it data to train. If they used Drake and the Weeknd's music to train the AI then it can be potentially copyrighted
The music industry is going to have the same problem as the artist community. Boomin beats did not make any beats without the influence of listening to and disecting other copyrighter beats. This is exactly what AI is doing. Same exact thing. This was the argument artists tried to make. Unless artists, and or musicians, producers, wiped their brains went into a cave and only then opened their eyes and ears in a dark cave with no previous experience or influence from preexisting visuals and or audios and created then they too have been trained from all previous works they have been exposed to.. That is what they are complaining about AI. It is no different. There is nothing new under the sun. Everything is a remix in one way or another because everyone creating is influenced by copyrighted material. This is the same for AI.
Just when I started accepting loop content as viable for music production. 😂 Now an entire track can be produced “automagically”! It’s still emerging tech and nothing I e seen yet can beat a human playing real instruments with nuance and feeling. There will always be a place for that, something listeners can deeply connect with.
So boom. The year is 2029. People still use streaming sort of. But the artist have completely abandoned the spotify model. They ate independent and sell cassette tapes, or cds. You only get physical copies directly from the artist or word of mouth. You have to actually search for the artist. And Sony walkman/disk man/mp3 players make a crazy comeback.
I think the labels will win in the end, because if they can generate their own beats, use AI songwriting tools, and generate a voice from scratch that they could own, then they could essentially own entirely AI-generated artists. Now technically anyone would be able to do this too in their bedrooms, but of course the labels with their connections and marketing budget would mean they'd be dominating that space more than anyone. I think it'll no longer be enough to just be a "producer" or an "artist", each person would have to do both, essentially just putting out full songs, and those who master branding and marketing would rise to the top, which is arguably how it's always been, given how many talented people never make it in the industry.
😶 Realistically the first step in devaluing producers started with the loop/sample selling game. It created a lower barrier for entry, royalty payouts decreased, and splits became a headache so labels were less willing to take a chance on unknown producers unless it was a collab with a known producer. Also the only reason why AI instrumental tech can advance this quickly in the first place is because we have so many loops to feed it with
We are advancing tech to quickly that people don't care about the future consequences they only care about the $$$ it could make. Just like cigarette companies back in the 60s. Now look at them they have to pay for every ad telling you not to smoke. (It's not tech but they didn't care about future consequences and now they have to pay the price)
spoton, AI generates jack, people generate stuff with AI. There will be more appreciation for humans making (live) music. Painters also thought the brush would disappear when photography came about. Imagine how that must have been back then. Painters started painting different and became more artistic instead of being bread painters focussed on realism and making portret of rich people.
I feel like at some point, it'll be easier for labels and mass copyright holders to leverage their ownership to generate new music. Why deal with tracking down the 10 producers on a loop when you have a ton of music to train against and then provide your artists with those beats? With the slew of artists selling their catalogues, I can see these giant bodies getting more and more in position to monopolize the modern sound of music (assuming in these catalogue deals, they end up wholly owning the copyrights or master recordings. Maybe this is unlikely 🤔)
In the future, all jobs will be replaced with A.I. and this includes music producers and artists. I wouldn't be surprised if an app like Spotify has a special feature or button in 5 to 10 years that generates an entire song tailor-made from the ground up for each individual user depending on their tastes. A song that is as good if not better than the best human music that exists or has ever existed. The A.I. would produce the instrumentals, vocals, lyrics all in a few seconds.
Yeah, and it will be popular. Spotify already uses AI to make personalized playlists that keep its customers coming back for more. The next stem is to actually create new music that matches people's personal tastes. It remains to be seen if the record labels will *allow* Spotify to do it, but if Spotify doesn't do it, someone else will, and the new AI company will take Spotify's customers.
@@jazzampa Actually not , look at ai image generators , they just got better in one year massively, and mysic is waaay more simplier than imagery , as a music lover i say it. Youll see
I’ll say this… banning things is hard and rarely works. And we always react with fear when it comes to newly emerging, revolutionary technologies. At the end of the day, AI is here to stay and in my opinion, we have to figure out how to adapt without necessarily banning things
I immediately thought of Metro Boomin. Imagine if he licensed his beats to an AI platform instead of selling his whole catalog. With how hot he is right now, they could create a whole platform around AI generated Metro beats. Similar to what Autotune did with TPain. I’m sure the labels are planning on using Metros catalog for that exact reason. Same with Justin Timberlake, Lil Wayne, and Justin Bieber 🤖
That's it folks. When Ai vocals get widespread human musicians will exist for live shows and little more. At that level there will always be this popularity contest we call pop music, I guess, and some hipsters will prefer "legacy music", but the game has changed.
Wait til we just use AI projections of musicians that aren't human for live shows ☹️ and they will have groupies throwing their underwear on the projected stage.
They shouldve called the track Vrake featuring El Veekend and and the beat is made by MetaVoomin. Anyway streaming is NOT free. Anything that can be sues over aint free. Real life is analog and tech is "sampling" real life now. Just wait until it is fully automated and is fully abstracted from "source". Bottom line is THE ENTIRE ENTERMAINMENT industry is going to be replaced
Great vid - you tell a story well. Re the copyright issue there's a simple solution; as soon as the sound has been generated by the AI, a person or organisation buys the copyright and the AI is "told" never to create that exact sound again. That gives the AI sound boundaries to work within/against.
Nice vid fam. I think that hip-hop, mainly super gutter type rap, will be the hardest to replicate via AI simply due to how quickly the slang is constantly changing and shifting in the culture. This may not be huge, but like think of how much people use the term “blicky” in the past 5 years when prior people would look at you like why are you using that? And I mean there’s endless examples of this from quarter to quarter let alone year to year let alone every few years to every few years.
AI learns the same way as we do. It listens to something and learns from it. The challenge is going to be being more creative than AI. And that’s eventually going to be impossible. So…
This is fascinating to me. I think the rise of AI platforms and AI-driven tools will change how the music making process looks, and how the industry operates, but at the end of the day the music industry operates on human connection and relationships. Not fire beats. If this is a scary thing for producers, I think they're looking at their position in the business the wrong way. To me it'll just be another useful tool to make our jobs a little easier or more creative.
Lol you said exactly how I feel. Human connection is so important and tbh is what makes music fun so without that, it ain’t the same. I feel like covid taught that a little bit too. No live performances or making music next to another person felt horrible but it was even better when we were allowed to come back and no longer social distance.
Assuming one uses a 16 step 808 style drum machine, one could make a total of only 65.536 patterns using 16 voices. A 4 on the Floor would narrow that down exponentially and when you add a clap on the downbeat, again you'd narrow it down. You don't even need AI to figure out it's near impossible to come up with something unique. With millions of people making beats worldwide, It's extremely likely a copyrighted beat has been done before in some basement by a kid with no name and no network. I bet the industry will eventually use it to generate a new Michael Jackson, Bowie, Prince, Elvis or Queen album.
Honestly, I don't think it's that big of a deal (in terms of beats). I think it will flood the market in terms of selection but when a beat hits right for an artist, it hits right. Sure people will resonate with AI beats as the software improves but I think if you're a talented beatmaker then you'll know what you want to hear and that should translate into something that's still marketable. I think the only people who aren't really safe are the people who are maybe just getting into producing, because of the learning curve. I just hope that musicianship doesn't suffer in the long term because those people opt for AI instead of taking the time to experiment themselves. Who knows though? The thing about AI is it's only able to work with what you tell it, and there's a big difference in someone who doesn't know musical terminology and someone who does. I think it'll still take a musical ear to actually shape the AI beats into something worth listening to.
@@jazzampa are you able to look into the future? You some sort of time traveler? lmao.. bro these ai products are developing at a highly exponential rate and random S Tier software is coming out left and right like babies in eastern cultures
As a producer and developer i can tell it is possible to do so....... The developer would make two different sides of developerment ...you can feed one side of the learning software to learn the melodies of certain producer... You take the side of development feed totally original content The software can memic the style but with Rearranging the sounds ..... The only thing finding enough original artist ....that can play drums ect.....
With this whole “right of publicity” law thing. There are people who sound like other people. Shyne sounded like Biggie etc.. there are comics that can mimick other peoples voices. If this ever went to court the labels would lose as it would be impossible to copyright a human voice. Copyright is ultimately about composition. Something has to be composed. It’s why you can’t copyright a synth sound etc.. it’s the same with a voice. The labels will try to put pressure on any main player just so none of this ever gets to court. If AI stuff gets tested in court the music business is pretty much over.
Shayne was on the same label as biggie so no. And that was his natural voice, so I don’t imagine that case would have gone well if somehow it had happened
How could they ever know its a.i? Especially the copyright office for instrumentals. You just send in the mp3 and few weeks later you got your copyright
I think these music labels just want to control the market no matter how or what I guess. But I think the ai/ml has already enough data on every possible way of creating all current genres of music. It’s just the way how the software is going to interact with it. I’m pretty certain that in the future you can create a banger track by just typing or use gestures or and talking singing whistling to an ai
Thanks again for the thoughtful content. As a beatmaker who has his sights on building a brand I hope the AI stuff continues to sound rather amateurish, so that someone like me still stands out by actually having years of experience and a honed human ear.
Always appreciate your content DJPain1! Also Soundful works a bit differently than you explained though, it’s much different than splice. Splice gives you recycled samples. Soundful generates unused, brand new samples and full tracks based on what it thinks that genre should sound like. You can also purchase exclusive licenses. It’s a true job killer. Or an enhancer if producers use it to increase quality and quantity. A lot to unpack.
@DJ Pain 1 and @Sontwisted for one this is what we get for allowing hiphop production to be so stale. Everyone sounding the same or similar. Now we know it's not everyone but it's way too many. So we just made the AI's job easier to find the patterns. 2. The only way they could keep track of each loop that is created with the aoundful and to also give everyone their own separate loops even when asked for the very se thing. Is to save every loop that it creates into a database and tag it as unique. Then every time a new beat or loop is generated it would have to first be cross referenced to that database. If loop = loop from database, Then slightly change loop.
I think further in the future ai will be so advanced that you can make just about anything to where copyright law would only get in the way of creation and it will be less utilized if not done away with altogether
Big catalog owners can feed an AI without risking copyright and therefore build a platform where they will make profit out of it. They just don’t want somebody else doing that. Indeed.
The publishers might want to cling on to their properties in order to keep selling it, but I think the genie is out of the bottle now. They won't be able to control it. They literally couldn't stop people sharing (pirate) tapes of albums, couldn't stop people from downloading music with Napster, and couldn't stop Spotify and TH-cam from offering free streams. All they could do was negotiate for a small royalty/revenue share. How are they going to stop people making fake Taylor Swift, Drake, or Weeknd tracks when we'll all have the technology to make mash-ups from the stuff that already exists? We aren't gonna pay for music when we can create it with an AI chatbot.
Also, antiquated tech in and of itself is it’s own cult in the music industry, from consuming vinyl, to 12 bit samplers, unstable analog synthesizers, and vacuum tubes, the new and shiny hasn’t destroyed that lane yet.. Ten years from now DAWs will be the new SP1200 and AI art isn’t gonna be welcome in that clubhouse
I'm honestly so scared. I only have like 2 years of learning music producion, so obiously some of the beats that soundful can generate sounds better than the ones I can make at the moment. So, I don't know if all my effort would be worth. Hope the law does something or that streaming plattforms only allow fully humanmade songs. Cause if not, the work of a producer won't make sense anymore
Real talk my friend, the technology is getting there at an insane pace. I like to joke to myself and think that my trash beats will be more enjoyable once the market is saturated with AI generated material that is too perfect😂
I have no doubt that every record label out there wants to cut out every human element from musicmaking to save on paying out royalties. Corporations are not friends.
Until AI can learn how to draw a human hand correctly, I’m not worried. AI puts out some interesting content, but it still needs a human to interface with it. AI will need to be looked at as a tool and not like some kind of self aware omnipotent being.
good content here. thank you for this info. I think we got new tools, that are so powerful we are about to see something 1000X the industrial revolution... maybe more.
not sure if this could apply on music too but look at visual arts, AI can generate very good artwork as you can see online, but it still havent replaced non AI art, id say not even to a small extent
I think we are in danger of mixing up two situations here - one the one had we have clones/parodies etc that are huge news at the moment, and I think will ultimately be regarded as novelties, on the other hand we have songwriters (like myself) who use AI generated "backing tracks" as inspiration to produce a finished song using the AI input as a starting point. The finished product in this instance is not attempting to sound like anyone else, with the 60-70% of the song being overdubs of vocals and instruments created solely by the living artist. My latest album includes no less than 8 songs that include AI elements.
The major labels in the industry are very very brutal the reason why is because I don't use samples I make all my melodies and all my cords myself. And it's the crazy part if they even put in a lawsuit claiming that you used any part even if you made it yourself fresh chords fresh Melody never been heard they will go as far to steal your beat by going in and using software to match up your kicks and your snares to certain elements of different songs. Just to put up a copyright claim on your great beat has happened to me and has happened to other producers. You guys need to talk about that too that we need to be a collective Union.
It sounds like legislation needs to be passed that actually allows ones likeness sound timbre to be copyrighted currently People are entitled to intellectual property rights that protect against another's misappropriation of their name, image, and likeness for profit. This is known as the right of publicity. The right of publicity is not protected by federal law but rather at the state level, and state laws vary...This needs to change). As it stands one can not Copyright or trademarking ones own face or likeness, the intellectual rights process is only valid for man-made creative ventures. The creative work must be a product of deliberate effort through creativity and conscious choices. Again all this needs to change in preparation for the new inevitable approaching paradigm.
Throughout history artisans have been replaced by machines and mass production. We've all embraced these products with little thought about the individuals and skills that have disappeared. Here we go again with another industrial revolution with even greater potential to impact on our lives. Unintended consequences are inevitable but it never stopped us before and it won't now, maybe the hardest lessons are ahead of us. Enjoy your music, your thoughts for the time being, are free.
I love the concept of AI in the arts because as a tool, it can help people climb over technical hurdles. I do audio and graphics production and in both cases I think AI is fantastic for generating custom "stock" images in incorporate and manipulate, much in the same way AI can produce audio samples to incorporate and manipulate.. its obvious problem is that it never stops at just being a tool, and will inevitably become what people rely on to do all the work... which just means the hackies jerks with the most are going to thrive, while actual creative people get buried in a super-saturated market. At this point Record Labels should just disappear. They are pointless.
I really enjoyed your video and breakdown of what’s going on in the industry. I have started viewing AI like people used to view Wikipedia. Wikipedia can be a great resource if you learn how to fact check it and verify original sources, but you wouldn’t want to use Wikipedia, a summary, as the actual resource because it’s a “middle man.” AI like ChatGPT will eventually be viewed that way I think. When it comes to art, I’m really not sure how I view it. Instinct has me wanting to defend it as a technology. I don’t like the idea of preventing a new tech from developing but we have to find a way to protect artists. I think artists in general should be paid better and better taken care of by the system, but I don’t know if it’s AI that’s in the wrong. I’m still developing my understanding and opinions on AI Art.
What annoys me about this debate is that everyone copies each other work; tone, style, delivery; what about when an artist sounds just like another artist? Can’t trademark a voice or a voice’s style; this like trademarking food/recipes.
As long as its output is nothing more than derriative and somebody makes it their own I don't see it as a problem. I think AI for music is amazing for the fact that it "can" bring artists back to life. If for example everyone involved agrees that Michael Jackson posthumously can be used (legally) we could see people today and in the future, allow new producers to keep artists spirits alive. I think that's a great thing
There will also be increasing *incorrect* “right of publicity” claims because once this gets established as a way for holders of the status quo to crush even legitimate competition, absolutely it will be used to push bogus legal actions to suppress up-and-comers without major label clout. For example, against a singer who just happens to sound a bit like Taylor Swift or Drake. This right of publicity stuff could be a huge mess in 10-15 years.
As with all things, in the end it's like this... either you're honest in what you do and how, or you hide things and possibly deceive your fans. In my opinion, artists (whether rappers or producers) will have to increasingly determine which target group quality they want to address. Depending on the motivation, new strategies will emerge to bring music into circulation. Maybe music will become more exclusive again and will not only take place online. These are turbulent times in any case.
I feel you...but thats how it go's. Gas engines came. Steam engine guys were pissed. I studied website design and right after I got out of school...Square Space was launched instantly making the majority of what I learned redundant. I welcome AI generated music. I have herd some pretty fire tracks made by AI. Once we as regular people get these tools then we will also be able to make cool things. Photoshop made it so that people that couldn't draw could draw expertly and no longer required an artist. Fruityloops made it so that people that could not play an instrument at all can now expertly play any instrument they desire without requiring a producer or engineer. How cool would it be to open up a DAW and you start singing or rapping and then have the AI generate random beats for that and you edit that to your liking or if you make a beat and then the AI generate lyrics and you edit that to your liking. I think that would be interesting. Music that was generated but then crafted to your liking. Cause the AI is gonna have ideas that you would have never thought of on your own. I can see companies using this to eliminate needing to pay a producer. I mean...I personally would rather AI generate a song and save the money rather than pay a real ass musician to sit down and compose music and write lyrics for the Power Rangers Theme Song I need for my TV Show. And to be honest I think an AI would have did a better job on the Power Rangers song if they had it back then. It was a terrible song. They repeated the same words over and over again. Lazy. And I only think that because getting Hans Zimmer to produce your track is expensive AF so they got whatever nobody they could fit in the budget. Us old heads are used to the old way. Some of us won't like this. Like those steam engine guys. I can't wait to get my hands on some of these tools.
I was under the impression that with The Grey Album the only copyright issues came from the Beatles side. Jay-Z specifically released an acapella only version of The Black Album so that people could make remixes of it, so I doubt he would do that and then go after people for it.
I think the labels are investing in these platforms so that they can sell stems from songs in their catalogs that are not popular. Additionally, If/when a derivative song meets a certain streaming threshold, profit sharing and other use use rules engage. Basically a way to squeeze revenue out of dead stock for the label.
"banning AI" will just make it so that the average user doesn't have access to it. Instead of paying 5 or 20$ a month to be able to utilize tools, they will be enterprise only. "email us for enterprise pricing options" The crazy thing is Machine Learning is already rampant in the sound creation process. So many plugins to "clean, balance, etc." when it comes to sounds. People have been using these tools for several things already. Its just getting closer to home for them.
So the Shyne music career was a copyright issue because who he sounded like and was marketed to sound like another artist. That's a touchy subject. Imo
That part... the whole a.i wave is underwhelming.. because a.i. been here with the whole "follower" culture. If anything creators are primed. Every once in a while a.i. will create a wave tho.
Hey man great video, i enjoyed this one.... I am an AI producer, but you still have to know what a hit sounds like, trust me there is going to be wack AI producers as well..... I played hit records all my life as a DJ and a lot of my friends made money in the real music industry. I want to break my artist on my own with my own and retire in peace.....lmao... STAY TUNED..
we need to start a group / petition / force and come together to fight AI as a whole in the music scene and prevent it from being allowed to replace us.
Then do not forget to include in the petition all producers who use sample packs and vst instruments to create sounds , melodies, and beats too. Bc that is a form of AI as well. We should make it so only producers who know how to write music and play real instruments can create music bc samples and technology has replaced musicians. So maybe all the musicians can come together and fight all the music producers too who don't know how to write or create their own sounds and samples.
Why what makes u think u have the legal right to block ai ??? Who gave u ownership over the music industry .. who gave u the control over someone esles freedom... why do u get to destroy other people's hard work
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hahaha, spot ON!
Shit....Umma grab it❤ Cant wait to make some Rick Ross/DJ Pain 1 oppulent NYC/Madison luxury Hip Hop 🫡💯🔥🔥
Lol
That vid is a damn clickbait and it sucks
As For Napster it's nothing like it, as it revolutionizes everything I mean think about being able to create a new Elivis or underrated artist who died before his time, Jimmy Hendrix is coming back
beatmakers ruined beatmaking before ai
how so?..
@@yutupedia7351 being very generic
"TH-cam Type Beats"
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Solid video. I could say a lot about AI, I think the core of it is this; AI is ultimately a tool for capital to deskill and cut labor cost. It’s development and deployment is entirely in service to that goal.
In context of the music industry, it’s easy to imagine how the big kids might leverage this technology.
Perhaps streaming platforms like Spotify start to saturate playlists with AI generated music to reduce royalty cost.
Major labels bringing artists back from the dead, leveraging their catalogs to create “Frankenstein” style material.
Exactly
That last point sickens me, now not even death I will keep these record labels from making a quick buck off of artists.
@@ariiincolur It didn’t before AI now It’s on proverbial steroids
deskill deez nuts nigga .. maybe the people that show u how to use it want u to lose .. the real power of ai will take your personal database (that only you have, not downloaded info from the internet) a PERSONAL ai assistant .. learn how it works you will be ahead goofy .. i know its not easy for everyone to catch and my problem is being smart to the point i get mad when people dont understand shit that i do .. dont use the main databases these websites use to generate basic ass beats .. use your database "this wav. file is an example of a trippy 808 bass loop/ this wav is an example of a EDM synth etc" "now u tell ai .. "based off our database use a 808 bass with trap keys to make a beat at 120 tempo in my style .. it will go through your database of all the beats u made and say "this guy uses these sounds to make this style of beat .. instead of u sitting there doing it"
now u can say "make 100 beatswith my style" while producing a new sound from scratch in real life without ai ..to feed it the new sound you want to innovate .. this is an innovation tool not a "deskiller" ive only increased my skills working with ai
@@DJPain1 there are only 8 billion people in this world who are able to think and find new ideas. But if scientists' estimates are correct, 2030 humans have succeeded in creating AGI (artificial general intelligence) (human equivalent intelligence) in 2050 humans can have 100 billion AGI who are able to think and invent new ideas. To help human evolution.
Maybe humans just need to focus on eating , drinking , sleeping , worshiping , caring for their families in 2100 .
Maybe in 2100 people work as a hobby.
We are just not advanced enough as a society to keep up with the technology we are making. They didn't jump on streaming just because they wanted the money, they did it because they couldn't stop what Napster started. With AI the cat is out of the bag, just like Napster they not gonna stop it, we just don't know where it's going. I think it will lead to a more radical/thinking art movement and not just artists chasing the bag.
I can see Ai taking over the sink, licensing, space for TV and film. This is why we need a producers union in my opinion. Aren’t enough signatures to limit the reach I can see a lot of film creators using AI beats but hey, I had a fight coming for it 💎💎💎
The sink?
Yeah bro, A.I. is taking over bathrooms all over the world didnt you kno
@@sontwisted lol
Sync bro
@@EarDrumBeatz I know sometimes I’m not the best speller
I think it’ll all depend on the listeners and fans. There will be people in the future that will indulge in AI generated music; Me personally I can’t really see myself “being a fan” of an AI producer let alone AI musician. Soon enough when everything becomes automatically generated we will eventually seek for human made art.
I vibe with this
The new philosophy is that the artist’s voice is now an instrument. People who are actually lyrical and or are good at identifying artists lyrical patterns can eventually make songs possibly better (based on consensus) than the artist. What’s next (because no one can stop someone from posting things on TH-cam and other places) is that artists need to simply license their voices out or there need to be new laws on propriety over one’s voice. I don’t see it disappearing I just see two possibly three crowds forming, those who are completely against it, those who love it and everyone else between.
AI perfections vs human imperfections
@@Matt_Steel0 ai is just an algorithm created by humans. Imperfections are baked in. Having said that, ai speeds up a process that would take weeks, months and sometimes years. So a producer may be able to run through hundreds of tracks and make corrections within a single day.
or just dive head first into the matrix of illusion and give up on the idea of humanity completely..
A great point: the ones who have trouble relating to their audience are the ones who will struggle the most when AI comes around..
Building a community with genuine relationships is more important than ever
Once upon a time,
there was a generation of musical artists
who helped their fans to
appreciate music that consisted of
REAL instruments
REAL singing voices
and REAL songwriters.
may there ever be communities out there that will ever embrace the REAL vs the fake
@@keithbell9348 .... Ok
@aM Ess just the way I see it. Honestly I am not even a big fan of autotune. Probably shouldn't have even expressed my views in this thread.
Just been hearing more and more about how AI is having an impact on the music industry nowadays. And not really all that surprised.
Imagine forking out your hard earned money to go to a concert to enjoy your favorite musical artist, only to see a DAW on stage and nothing else.
Care to disagree, but bud you can keep that crap.
I wholeheartedly agree with your observance on creating relationships.
But with what?
Software, or human beings?
Back in the day talented human musicians would do that directly with their human constituents. And not with some computer between them.
What's funny is the industry actually embraced it first bc normal ppldidnt have access like this until the first ai rapper got signed. They created the problem never forget that they are already behind all this before they put it out to the world to see
100 percent agreed! For the producers who don't have a good personality or reputation, AI is definitely gonna replace them. Anyone can make a decent beat, but it takes good character and proper influence to sustain yourself in this music business. If you have keep your honor and maintain your consistency, you are gonna be fine. But the ones just getting started, you might want to get on this AI train because based off what UMG is investing in, AI is gonna be here to stay. Great video.
As depressing as this is, I'm not gonna let this shit stop me from being successful. But appreciate you for covering this!
on me letgo 🕺🕺🕺 visualize, buss yo ass n achieve
It is actually worst... just by choosing from the list of AI generated beats, images, answers . . . wathever... we are TEACHING AI what Humans preferr. . . .so just by using it, AI is getting exponentially "wiser" and with that, humans just gave birth to a superior intelligence rendering themselves obsolete. Apocalyptic? definitively.
I lowkey hope universal wins that lawsuit against those AI generated music creators
to have regulations set at least
I just don’t trust them very much
@@DJPain1 no they'll probably buy it and then put out music with it themselves
It’s kinda like a new version of sampling. It’s not directly sampling or interpolating, but using LLMs full of samples to recreate the type of content. I think some ruling will set a precedent for any future cases.
ai cannot be copywritten. that shit makes no sense. its a computer making it. not drake or weeknd or universal. the person using ai should grt credit. if someone sounds exactly like weeknd and makes a song… they srent copywriting his voice. its someone elses. ai cannot be owned by anyone unless companies start twisting/manipulating the law to do so
@@ohmyside9361 If they prove they used copyrighted music to train the AI them that'll give them a case.
A computer doesn't make it from scratch, you have to feed it data to train.
If they used Drake and the Weeknd's music to train the AI then it can be potentially copyrighted
These are the kinds of conversations that are productive and proactive. Real analysis of an evolving environment. ❤
I’ve been afraid of being replaced by AI but this has calmed me down 😂🔥
The music industry is going to have the same problem as the artist community. Boomin beats did not make any beats without the influence of listening to and disecting other copyrighter beats. This is exactly what AI is doing. Same exact thing. This was the argument artists tried to make. Unless artists, and or musicians, producers, wiped their brains went into a cave and only then opened their eyes and ears in a dark cave with no previous experience or influence from preexisting visuals and or audios and created then they too have been trained from all previous works they have been exposed to.. That is what they are complaining about AI. It is no different. There is nothing new under the sun. Everything is a remix in one way or another because everyone creating is influenced by copyrighted material. This is the same for AI.
Great video man. Keep keeping us informed.
Just when I started accepting loop content as viable for music production. 😂 Now an entire track can be produced “automagically”! It’s still emerging tech and nothing I e seen yet can beat a human playing real instruments with nuance and feeling. There will always be a place for that, something listeners can deeply connect with.
Really tho!
So boom. The year is 2029. People still use streaming sort of. But the artist have completely abandoned the spotify model. They ate independent and sell cassette tapes, or cds. You only get physical copies directly from the artist or word of mouth. You have to actually search for the artist. And Sony walkman/disk man/mp3 players make a crazy comeback.
I think the labels will win in the end, because if they can generate their own beats, use AI songwriting tools, and generate a voice from scratch that they could own, then they could essentially own entirely AI-generated artists. Now technically anyone would be able to do this too in their bedrooms, but of course the labels with their connections and marketing budget would mean they'd be dominating that space more than anyone. I think it'll no longer be enough to just be a "producer" or an "artist", each person would have to do both, essentially just putting out full songs, and those who master branding and marketing would rise to the top, which is arguably how it's always been, given how many talented people never make it in the industry.
They can do this all already 🤷🏽
We can do it too fuck them
😶 Realistically the first step in devaluing producers started with the loop/sample selling game. It created a lower barrier for entry, royalty payouts decreased, and splits became a headache so labels were less willing to take a chance on unknown producers unless it was a collab with a known producer. Also the only reason why AI instrumental tech can advance this quickly in the first place is because we have so many loops to feed it with
I think tech is evolving at a rate that’s hard to comprehend so we fear it but those who don’t find ways to make use of it will get left behind
We are advancing tech to quickly that people don't care about the future consequences they only care about the $$$ it could make. Just like cigarette companies back in the 60s. Now look at them they have to pay for every ad telling you not to smoke. (It's not tech but they didn't care about future consequences and now they have to pay the price)
I was saying that 2 min ago 😂
What are ya gonna do but embrace it? 🤷♂️
spoton, AI generates jack, people generate stuff with AI. There will be more appreciation for humans making (live) music. Painters also thought the brush would disappear when photography came about. Imagine how that must have been back then. Painters started painting different and became more artistic instead of being bread painters focussed on realism and making portret of rich people.
I feel like at some point, it'll be easier for labels and mass copyright holders to leverage their ownership to generate new music. Why deal with tracking down the 10 producers on a loop when you have a ton of music to train against and then provide your artists with those beats?
With the slew of artists selling their catalogues, I can see these giant bodies getting more and more in position to monopolize the modern sound of music (assuming in these catalogue deals, they end up wholly owning the copyrights or master recordings. Maybe this is unlikely 🤔)
In the future, all jobs will be replaced with A.I. and this includes music producers and artists. I wouldn't be surprised if an app like Spotify has a special feature or button in 5 to 10 years that generates an entire song tailor-made from the ground up for each individual user depending on their tastes. A song that is as good if not better than the best human music that exists or has ever existed.
The A.I. would produce the instrumentals, vocals, lyrics all in a few seconds.
Yeah, and it will sound trash
Yeah, and it will be popular. Spotify already uses AI to make personalized playlists that keep its customers coming back for more. The next stem is to actually create new music that matches people's personal tastes. It remains to be seen if the record labels will *allow* Spotify to do it, but if Spotify doesn't do it, someone else will, and the new AI company will take Spotify's customers.
@@jazzampa Actually not , look at ai image generators , they just got better in one year massively, and mysic is waaay more simplier than imagery , as a music lover i say it. Youll see
I’ll say this… banning things is hard and rarely works. And we always react with fear when it comes to newly emerging, revolutionary technologies. At the end of the day, AI is here to stay and in my opinion, we have to figure out how to adapt without necessarily banning things
I immediately thought of Metro Boomin. Imagine if he licensed his beats to an AI platform instead of selling his whole catalog. With how hot he is right now, they could create a whole platform around AI generated Metro beats. Similar to what Autotune did with TPain. I’m sure the labels are planning on using Metros catalog for that exact reason. Same with Justin Timberlake, Lil Wayne, and Justin Bieber 🤖
That's it folks. When Ai vocals get widespread human musicians will exist for live shows and little more. At that level there will always be this popularity contest we call pop music, I guess, and some hipsters will prefer "legacy music", but the game has changed.
Wait til we just use AI projections of musicians that aren't human for live shows ☹️ and they will have groupies throwing their underwear on the projected stage.
A scary future
Eloquent video... I'm subbing. I'm Not a musician, but seriously interested in how this is all gonna play out.
dude its not just music industry, its also the construction, web design, creative writing etc we cant stop it
They shouldve called the track Vrake featuring El Veekend and and the beat is made by MetaVoomin. Anyway streaming is NOT free. Anything that can be sues over aint free. Real life is analog and tech is "sampling" real life now. Just wait until it is fully automated and is fully abstracted from "source". Bottom line is THE ENTIRE ENTERMAINMENT industry is going to be replaced
Great vid - you tell a story well. Re the copyright issue there's a simple solution; as soon as the sound has been generated by the AI, a person or organisation buys the copyright and the AI is "told" never to create that exact sound again. That gives the AI sound boundaries to work within/against.
The problem is Dark AI is/will be a thing.
Every form of the entertainment industry will have to fight AI but the technology is already there. We’re screwed
I use "Fruity Loops" and also play 5 instruments. No need to be shitty to anybody. Let's all just do the best with what we can!
the craziest part is this is the worst AI is going to be, from here it will just get more and more capable.
beautiful insight my man. thank you!!!
Nice vid fam. I think that hip-hop, mainly super gutter type rap, will be the hardest to replicate via AI simply due to how quickly the slang is constantly changing and shifting in the culture. This may not be huge, but like think of how much people use the term “blicky” in the past 5 years when prior people would look at you like why are you using that? And I mean there’s endless examples of this from quarter to quarter let alone year to year let alone every few years to every few years.
So much for being producer or rapper. Labels wont need artists.
AI learns the same way as we do. It listens to something and learns from it. The challenge is going to be being more creative than AI. And that’s eventually going to be impossible. So…
This is fascinating to me. I think the rise of AI platforms and AI-driven tools will change how the music making process looks, and how the industry operates, but at the end of the day the music industry operates on human connection and relationships. Not fire beats. If this is a scary thing for producers, I think they're looking at their position in the business the wrong way. To me it'll just be another useful tool to make our jobs a little easier or more creative.
Lol you said exactly how I feel. Human connection is so important and tbh is what makes music fun so without that, it ain’t the same.
I feel like covid taught that a little bit too. No live performances or making music next to another person felt horrible but it was even better when we were allowed to come back and no longer social distance.
thx for keeping us up to date man
Anytime
Assuming one uses a 16 step 808 style drum machine, one could make a total of only 65.536 patterns using 16 voices. A 4 on the Floor would narrow that down exponentially and when you add a clap on the downbeat, again you'd narrow it down. You don't even need AI to figure out it's near impossible to come up with something unique. With millions of people making beats worldwide, It's extremely likely a copyrighted beat has been done before in some basement by a kid with no name and no network. I bet the industry will eventually use it to generate a new Michael Jackson, Bowie, Prince, Elvis or Queen album.
Honestly, I don't think it's that big of a deal (in terms of beats). I think it will flood the market in terms of selection but when a beat hits right for an artist, it hits right. Sure people will resonate with AI beats as the software improves but I think if you're a talented beatmaker then you'll know what you want to hear and that should translate into something that's still marketable.
I think the only people who aren't really safe are the people who are maybe just getting into producing, because of the learning curve. I just hope that musicianship doesn't suffer in the long term because those people opt for AI instead of taking the time to experiment themselves. Who knows though? The thing about AI is it's only able to work with what you tell it, and there's a big difference in someone who doesn't know musical terminology and someone who does. I think it'll still take a musical ear to actually shape the AI beats into something worth listening to.
nah it won't take any human input soon and AI will make beats better than any billboard producer.
I use a lot of ai products and plugins, and that isn't going to ever replace anything without human creativity. I can take that to the bank
@@jazzampa are you able to look into the future? You some sort of time traveler? lmao.. bro these ai products are developing at a highly exponential rate and random S Tier software is coming out left and right like babies in eastern cultures
It’s up! 🔥🔥🔥
As a producer and developer i can tell it is possible to do so.......
The developer would make two different sides of developerment ...you can feed one side of the learning software to learn the melodies of certain producer...
You take the side of development feed totally original content
The software can memic the style but with Rearranging the sounds .....
The only thing finding enough original artist ....that can play drums ect.....
With this whole “right of publicity” law thing. There are people who sound like other people. Shyne sounded like Biggie etc.. there are comics that can mimick other peoples voices. If this ever went to court the labels would lose as it would be impossible to copyright a human voice. Copyright is ultimately about composition. Something has to be composed. It’s why you can’t copyright a synth sound etc.. it’s the same with a voice. The labels will try to put pressure on any main player just so none of this ever gets to court. If AI stuff gets tested in court the music business is pretty much over.
Shayne was on the same label as biggie so no. And that was his natural voice, so I don’t imagine that case would have gone well if somehow it had happened
How could they ever know its a.i?
Especially the copyright office for instrumentals.
You just send in the mp3 and few weeks later you got your copyright
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Listeners will feed on any food. Don't see how you can stop AI songs. Especially when it gets organized.
I think these music labels just want to control the market no matter how or what I guess.
But I think the ai/ml has already enough data on every possible way of creating all current genres of music.
It’s just the way how the software is going to interact with it.
I’m pretty certain that in the future you can create a banger track by just typing or use gestures or and talking singing whistling to an ai
That was a very slick advertisement 😂
Thanks again for the thoughtful content. As a beatmaker who has his sights on building a brand I hope the AI stuff continues to sound rather amateurish, so that someone like me still stands out by actually having years of experience and a honed human ear.
This a.i is completely devastating. It must be stopped asap.
I feel like them taxis drivers when Uber started taking over😬
Always appreciate your content DJPain1! Also Soundful works a bit differently than you explained though, it’s much different than splice. Splice gives you recycled samples. Soundful generates unused, brand new samples and full tracks based on what it thinks that genre should sound like. You can also purchase exclusive licenses. It’s a true job killer. Or an enhancer if producers use it to increase quality and quantity. A lot to unpack.
Can you show me info on that? I don’t believe these sounds are just generated by the AI.
@@DJPain1 even if it did whats to stop it from giving me and you the same sounds if we ask for something similar
@DJ Pain 1 and @Sontwisted for one this is what we get for allowing hiphop production to be so stale. Everyone sounding the same or similar. Now we know it's not everyone but it's way too many. So we just made the AI's job easier to find the patterns. 2. The only way they could keep track of each loop that is created with the aoundful and to also give everyone their own separate loops even when asked for the very se thing. Is to save every loop that it creates into a database and tag it as unique. Then every time a new beat or loop is generated it would have to first be cross referenced to that database. If loop = loop from database, Then slightly change loop.
I think further in the future ai will be so advanced that you can make just about anything to where copyright law would only get in the way of creation and it will be less utilized if not done away with altogether
Big catalog owners can feed an AI without risking copyright and therefore build a platform where they will make profit out of it. They just don’t want somebody else doing that. Indeed.
Yep, and UMG fits that bill
The publishers might want to cling on to their properties in order to keep selling it, but I think the genie is out of the bottle now. They won't be able to control it. They literally couldn't stop people sharing (pirate) tapes of albums, couldn't stop people from downloading music with Napster, and couldn't stop Spotify and TH-cam from offering free streams. All they could do was negotiate for a small royalty/revenue share. How are they going to stop people making fake Taylor Swift, Drake, or Weeknd tracks when we'll all have the technology to make mash-ups from the stuff that already exists? We aren't gonna pay for music when we can create it with an AI chatbot.
Damn man feels like my dreams are crushed
I wish they weren't'
Also, antiquated tech in and of itself is it’s own cult in the music industry, from consuming vinyl, to 12 bit samplers, unstable analog synthesizers, and vacuum tubes, the new and shiny hasn’t destroyed that lane yet.. Ten years from now DAWs will be the new SP1200 and AI art isn’t gonna be welcome in that clubhouse
bumping for visibility..
I'm honestly so scared. I only have like 2 years of learning music producion, so obiously some of the beats that soundful can generate sounds better than the ones I can make at the moment. So, I don't know if all my effort would be worth. Hope the law does something or that streaming plattforms only allow fully humanmade songs. Cause if not, the work of a producer won't make sense anymore
Learn to love the process of making beats because instant gratification has never panned out well in the long run.
Real talk my friend, the technology is getting there at an insane pace. I like to joke to myself and think that my trash beats will be more enjoyable once the market is saturated with AI generated material that is too perfect😂
Nice Article/Video.
I have no doubt that every record label out there wants to cut out every human element from musicmaking to save on paying out royalties. Corporations are not friends.
Great post…I could rant for hours about this but…keep these coming…..great presentation…not to late for you into entertainment copyright law,
Until AI can learn how to draw a human hand correctly, I’m not worried. AI puts out some interesting content, but it still needs a human to interface with it. AI will need to be looked at as a tool and not like some kind of self aware omnipotent being.
Film industry revolves around music. Every film is filled 90% or more with music of all different types.
Unison Audio in the cut like 😡
They said AI is the future LOL
good content here. thank you for this info.
I think we got new tools, that are so powerful we are about to see something 1000X the industrial revolution... maybe more.
This is very insightful. Thank you.
Great conversation
🙏✨ Thank you for this breakdown, please keep talking about our present/future with AI's. Super informative and exciting.
Will do!
not sure if this could apply on music too but look at visual arts, AI can generate very good artwork as you can see online, but it still havent replaced non AI art, id say not even to a small extent
I think we are in danger of mixing up two situations here - one the one had we have clones/parodies etc that are huge news at the moment, and I think will ultimately be regarded as novelties, on the other hand we have songwriters (like myself) who use AI generated "backing tracks" as inspiration to produce a finished song using the AI input as a starting point. The finished product in this instance is not attempting to sound like anyone else, with the 60-70% of the song being overdubs of vocals and instruments created solely by the living artist. My latest album includes no less than 8 songs that include AI elements.
8:10 So basically, you can sue someone for sounding like you?? If Rap and sound just like Drake, I can be in trouble? Going by that stipulation.
Sounds like they’d have a case against you, yes
of course, you're using someone's likeness to monetize. Pharrell and Robin Thicke didn't sample Marvin Gaye but they damn sure were biting his style.
Look at Ghostface and Bronson
All the Carti copies going in jail then 😔
If you showed Motzart Fl Studio he'd be scared too. Nothing to worry ab. 👍
Thanks BRO salute!!
The major labels in the industry are very very brutal the reason why is because I don't use samples I make all my melodies and all my cords myself. And it's the crazy part if they even put in a lawsuit claiming that you used any part even if you made it yourself fresh chords fresh Melody never been heard they will go as far to steal your beat by going in and using software to match up your kicks and your snares to certain elements of different songs. Just to put up a copyright claim on your great beat has happened to me and has happened to other producers. You guys need to talk about that too that we need to be a collective Union.
Be careful man💯 and I need to too
THANK GOODNESS ! BEATMAKIN INVOLVES A CERTAIN LEVEL OF EMOTION BETWEEN THE BEATMAKER, BEATMAKIN, BEAT AND CLIENT...
It sounds like legislation needs to be passed that actually allows ones likeness sound timbre to be copyrighted currently People are entitled to intellectual property rights that protect against another's misappropriation of their name, image, and likeness for profit. This is known as the right of publicity. The right of publicity is not protected by federal law but rather at the state level, and state laws vary...This needs to change).
As it stands one can not Copyright or trademarking ones own face or likeness, the intellectual rights process is only valid for man-made creative ventures. The creative work must be a product of deliberate effort through creativity and conscious choices. Again all this needs to change in preparation for the new inevitable approaching paradigm.
Throughout history artisans have been replaced by machines and mass production. We've all embraced these products with little thought about the individuals and skills that have disappeared. Here we go again with another industrial revolution with even greater potential to impact on our lives. Unintended consequences are inevitable but it never stopped us before and it won't now, maybe the hardest lessons are ahead of us. Enjoy your music, your thoughts for the time being, are free.
Instead being mad at the technology, use it to simplify your lives.
I love the concept of AI in the arts because as a tool, it can help people climb over technical hurdles. I do audio and graphics production and in both cases I think AI is fantastic for generating custom "stock" images in incorporate and manipulate, much in the same way AI can produce audio samples to incorporate and manipulate..
its obvious problem is that it never stops at just being a tool, and will inevitably become what people rely on to do all the work... which just means the hackies jerks with the most are going to thrive, while actual creative people get buried in a super-saturated market.
At this point Record Labels should just disappear. They are pointless.
I really enjoyed your video and breakdown of what’s going on in the industry. I have started viewing AI like people used to view Wikipedia. Wikipedia can be a great resource if you learn how to fact check it and verify original sources, but you wouldn’t want to use Wikipedia, a summary, as the actual resource because it’s a “middle man.” AI like ChatGPT will eventually be viewed that way I think.
When it comes to art, I’m really not sure how I view it. Instinct has me wanting to defend it as a technology. I don’t like the idea of preventing a new tech from developing but we have to find a way to protect artists. I think artists in general should be paid better and better taken care of by the system, but I don’t know if it’s AI that’s in the wrong. I’m still developing my understanding and opinions on AI Art.
1. train your model on straight up bangers
2. Generate a fire AI beat
3. Remake it with an actual DAW
Congrats, you're now a musical genius!
😂😂😂
What annoys me about this debate is that everyone copies each other work; tone, style, delivery; what about when an artist sounds just like another artist? Can’t trademark a voice or a voice’s style; this like trademarking food/recipes.
Very insightful, you have my sub! ⚡️⚡️⚡️
As long as its output is nothing more than derriative and somebody makes it their own I don't see it as a problem.
I think AI for music is amazing for the fact that it "can" bring artists back to life. If for example everyone involved agrees that Michael Jackson posthumously can be used (legally) we could see people today and in the future, allow new producers to keep artists spirits alive. I think that's a great thing
There will also be increasing *incorrect* “right of publicity” claims because once this gets established as a way for holders of the status quo to crush even legitimate competition, absolutely it will be used to push bogus legal actions to suppress up-and-comers without major label clout. For example, against a singer who just happens to sound a bit like Taylor Swift or Drake. This right of publicity stuff could be a huge mess in 10-15 years.
As with all things, in the end it's like this... either you're honest in what you do and how, or you hide things and possibly deceive your fans.
In my opinion, artists (whether rappers or producers) will have to increasingly determine which target group quality they want to address. Depending on the motivation, new strategies will emerge to bring music into circulation. Maybe music will become more exclusive again and will not only take place online.
These are turbulent times in any case.
I feel you...but thats how it go's. Gas engines came. Steam engine guys were pissed. I studied website design and right after I got out of school...Square Space was launched instantly making the majority of what I learned redundant. I welcome AI generated music. I have herd some pretty fire tracks made by AI. Once we as regular people get these tools then we will also be able to make cool things. Photoshop made it so that people that couldn't draw could draw expertly and no longer required an artist. Fruityloops made it so that people that could not play an instrument at all can now expertly play any instrument they desire without requiring a producer or engineer.
How cool would it be to open up a DAW and you start singing or rapping and then have the AI generate random beats for that and you edit that to your liking or if you make a beat and then the AI generate lyrics and you edit that to your liking. I think that would be interesting. Music that was generated but then crafted to your liking. Cause the AI is gonna have ideas that you would have never thought of on your own.
I can see companies using this to eliminate needing to pay a producer. I mean...I personally would rather AI generate a song and save the money rather than pay a real ass musician to sit down and compose music and write lyrics for the Power Rangers Theme Song I need for my TV Show. And to be honest I think an AI would have did a better job on the Power Rangers song if they had it back then. It was a terrible song. They repeated the same words over and over again. Lazy. And I only think that because getting Hans Zimmer to produce your track is expensive AF so they got whatever nobody they could fit in the budget. Us old heads are used to the old way. Some of us won't like this. Like those steam engine guys. I can't wait to get my hands on some of these tools.
I was under the impression that with The Grey Album the only copyright issues came from the Beatles side. Jay-Z specifically released an acapella only version of The Black Album so that people could make remixes of it, so I doubt he would do that and then go after people for it.
acapellas aren't meant... nevermind.
I think the labels are investing in these platforms so that they can sell stems from songs in their catalogs that are not popular. Additionally, If/when a derivative song meets a certain streaming threshold, profit sharing and other use use rules engage. Basically a way to squeeze revenue out of dead stock for the label.
"banning AI" will just make it so that the average user doesn't have access to it. Instead of paying 5 or 20$ a month to be able to utilize tools, they will be enterprise only. "email us for enterprise pricing options"
The crazy thing is Machine Learning is already rampant in the sound creation process. So many plugins to "clean, balance, etc." when it comes to sounds. People have been using these tools for several things already. Its just getting closer to home for them.
Musicians in every genre are worried about AI, but it seems like the general public are going: "Yeeeey, a new toy!".
So the Shyne music career was a copyright issue because who he sounded like and was marketed to sound like another artist. That's a touchy subject. Imo
Technically, "Type Beats" are A.I. beats. And it's been a thing since 2010..
That part... the whole a.i wave is underwhelming.. because a.i. been here with the whole "follower" culture. If anything creators are primed. Every once in a while a.i. will create a wave tho.
@More Plates No Dates there is no difference because it's low barrier to entry and tech don't care.
… how tf
@@Chicken-1923 exactly
@@Chicken-1923 and ya'll gotta stop that, and be more creative so you don't sound like anyone else
Thank you as always, this was a well balanced look at what’s going on 🙏
Great video and commentary my brother.
Hey man great video, i enjoyed this one.... I am an AI producer, but you still have to know what a hit sounds like, trust me there is going to be wack AI producers as well..... I played hit records all my life as a DJ and a lot of my friends made money in the real music industry. I want to break my artist on my own with my own and retire in peace.....lmao... STAY TUNED..
The big corps contracts could allow them to use their actors/performers voices never needing to rehire them for new work.
we need to start a group / petition / force and come together to fight AI as a whole in the music scene and prevent it from being allowed to replace us.
AI can only do as well as the stuff it's fed. Its time to feed AI loads of absolutely trash beats on a mass scale 😂
Then do not forget to include in the petition all producers who use sample packs and vst instruments to create sounds , melodies, and beats too. Bc that is a form of AI as well. We should make it so only producers who know how to write music and play real instruments can create music bc samples and technology has replaced musicians. So maybe all the musicians can come together and fight all the music producers too who don't know how to write or create their own sounds and samples.
The writing's on the wall
100% agreed.
Why what makes u think u have the legal right to block ai ??? Who gave u ownership over the music industry .. who gave u the control over someone esles freedom... why do u get to destroy other people's hard work
More gems, thanks pain