Elder Scrolls Morrowind is Better Than Skyrim
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- The Elder Scrolls Morrowind is Better than Skyrim and I'm here to prove it to you!
For many, The Elder Scrolls Skyrim was their first foray into the open world, free form style of the Elder Scrolls series, for others, Morrowind was the first time they realized that RPGs could be absolutely epic in proportion and in activities to do. I love me some Skyrim, and I've played it in all of it's iterations and I agree that it is an absolute blast to play and almost never gets old, but today, I want to argue something I truly believe: That The Elder Scrolls Morrowind is in fact a better game and worthy of your time if you are struggling to fire up Skyrim for the 1 billionth time.
Let's start with a common complaint against Skyrim, and this is that compared to previous entries, don't get me started on the complexities and vastness of their second Elder Scrolls, Daggerfall, in general, the stats were completely dumbed down in Skyrim when in comparison to Morrowind.
For example, did you know that in Morrowind you can make custom spells and echantments, giving you absolute freedom in creating absurdities to fit whatever fantasy gamestyle you wanted? This doesn't exist in Skyrim, you have a good assortment of options but you can not make your own.
Now although Morrowind has voice acting, and quite a bit of it, Skyrim definitely takes the cake here, offering outlandish amounts of spoken dialogue, but this was costly and meant that the conversation options were way less than offered in Morrowind. In Morrowind you would have a giant list of options to speak to NPCs about leading to all kinds of information, sure, most of it wasn't voice acted, but I for one, as an old school gamer sometimes appreciate reading some text when it adds a vast amount of complexity and options. I know that probably for the average person, walls of text and lore are probably a deal breaker, but for me, a nerdy nerd geek, I really enjoy reading and it's one of the reasons I fell in love with RPGs to begin with and Morrowind has enough dialogue to last you a lifetime.
And we would be remiss not to mention the fantastical atmosphere and environments in Morrowind, although I love the aesthetics of Skyrim, there is something dreamy and alien about the land of Morrowind, a new kind of fantasy place that was so enchanting and full of mystery. The lore of the Dunmer that live there is hateful against "outlanders" or people not from Morrowind and I really enjoyed that you truly feel like you are out of place and trying to carve out a life and a reputation in unforgiving lands. This sometimes makes it much darker, but also more rich in opportunities and motivation for the player in my opinion.
Then there is the fact that Skyrim is sometimes a bit TOO accessible, it's difficulty dialed down and that means you as the player have less fear to explore any random cave, temple or crypt. And I get it, that makes it easier for more people to enjoy it, no doubt, but quite selfishly, for the hardcore RPG fan, we can take a beating and feel underpowered which empowers us to go out and level up and return later and feel that rush of endorphins as we can now conquer what before felt impossible. This is something that Morrowind does right, where Skyrim is a big too forgiving.
I also feel that Morrowind is practically infinitely more immersive due in large part to less hand holding. In Skyrim, you can follow your quest markers directly to wherever you are suppose to go next, but in Morrowind you have to take note of what NPCs say, they give you directions and I remember literally writing down what they said and going off of landmarks and feeling like I was really out there in the world trying to find these places, and it was insanely rewarding. Although this is so awesome, I do understand the new stance, but I think now with Elden Ring out there in the world, we have a lot of evidence to support that less handholding is so much more rewarding to the player, and it's mega success is hopefully a wake up call to Bethesda. And I don't mean for them to release The Elder Scrolls Skyrim : No Hand Hold Edition, I mean, I hope they take some of the lessons of ELden Ring and apply them to the next Elder Scrolls game. The exploration of Morrowind has no equal in my opinion, because after it, going into Oblivion is when the major hand holding began. Discovering a place that an NPC had told you about and then uncovering a deeper plot and knowing that YOU stumbled upon it or found it, is so much more of an experience than following a quest marker could ever be, and those feelings are still relevant today.
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Morrowind was the best game that Bethesda ever made, nothing else even comes close.
Cap.
Skyrim is better.
Fallout: New Vegas is better.
Dishonored is better.
DOOM 2016 is better.
Oblivion is pretty good right? Right?
@@mattburrell7504 3 of those are not made by Bethesda, lol. You need to learn before you type.
I'll save you google.
Dishonored is Arkane Studios (France)
New Vegas is Obsidian (former Black Isle members who worked on Fallout 1,2 and games like Planescape)
Doom is ID software, a veteran FPS developer.
There is a difference between Bethesda Softworks and Bethesda Game Studios.
When we refer to game makers we refer to Developers and not Publishers because the ones who make the games are the devs.
Daggerfall comes close.
I would put down Daggerfall as a very strong contender, but the insane depth and size of the game with all the limitations it had is kind of like comparing apples to oranges. The *IDEA* of Daggerfall is the best thing Bethesda ever made (including all the stuff they wanted to put in the game but couldn't due to technical limitations.)
I love Daggerfall Unity, but If you gave me us modern Daggerfall with all the skills (yes, even useless ones like backstabbing and languages), mechanics like needing to plan fast travel to complete quests before time limit expires, quality of life improvements without messing with core mechanics, and absolute freedom to basically live in a world as whatever kind of character you want, I think it would be massive. Just don't know how anybody could do that to the same scale these days.
Nothing is more immersive than when you have to bust out an IRL map of the game and write down notes in a book. Peak Open world RPG
Literally the best Elder Scrolls game. The only things "wrong" with Morrowind are the following...
Dated/unacceptable combat system (for newcomers to Morrowind, this is a huge dealbreaker because of the RNG combat)
Lack of voice acting/radiant AI - My friend told me verbatim he didn't like Morrowind because the dialogue was not immersive enough.
Graphics - the meshes, textures and animations are extremely dated. Sure, they can be fixed somewhat with mods, but even then, with how everything looks and operates, it still feels very dated.
Instead of 15 different versions of Skyrim, Bethesda should have remastered both Daggerfall and Morrowind to tide people over in this 12 year gap between TES V and TES VI. In my opinion, if they remastered Morrowind or Daggerfall, people would finally realize how shitty Skyrim was in-terms of content. The quests and writing were sub-par, the combat was boring and the fact that no matter where you go or what you do, you're basically a God walking around the game destroying everything kills any and all challenge in the game.
At least in Morrowind/Daggerfall, your character started out as just a normal guy, no more powerful than any other NPCs but you eventually work your way up to become powerful and it really gives you a feeling of success and accomplishment, whereas in Skyrim, everything is basically just handed to you on a silver platter, then spoon fed into your mouth. Skyrim has a great world, good lore, but terrible design and mechanics.
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@@husky3gmorrowind was constantly fighting you and itself and people got to work around it to make it work.
While i agree that later titles became streamlined and simplyfied i would rather take that than waste my time grinding for skillpoints and play a certain build to not gimp myself completely...morrowind in a lot of aspects was just a huge waste of time for the most part.
You could become even more of an unstoppable god in morrowind than you could in later titles as things like alchemy and magic were completely broken,
it just took you a hell of a lot more time grinding to get there.
The appeal of morrowind is its world building, the complete alien landscape and creatures than inhabit it...
I keep seeing people talk about 'so much freedom' in morrowind. where? How?
I would argue you are less free in morrowind than any other title that followed it
Sure, in morrowind you could kill anyone, even important characters and the game wouldn't just end
but overall it kinda forced you to play a certain way and style
I could deactivate the 'always use best attack' option but why would i want to do that?
Because i got the freedom to gimp myself?
Could also do that in Skyrim, raise the difficulty higher than the lowest or the default second lowest and try
to attack a giant with an iron sword at level 5 to become the next baar dau...
Morrowind is more of a true classic rpg than later installments, doesn't automatically make it good though...
I rather would make a new character and try out a new style in skyrim than i would in morrowind, especially because i do not hate myself
and i got better things to do with my time than to jump around like a lunatic to raise my acrobatic skill or to grind alchemy to get a good headstart...
@@knightofnightside Nothing you've written here is even correct. 🤣 You've obviously never played the game past the opening, probably because you found it too hard. Oof!
@@N3Rd32 i finished all TES with their respective DLC and am not letting nostalgia blind myself with rose-tinted glasses.
I always play a wizard in elder scrolls games. Mysticism, unlocking doors and chests with magic and the recall spell was always a lovely tool. Morrowind makes you feel like a true master of the arcane, not just some fire/ice/lightning turret.
Exactly. The lack of diversity of combat/utilitarian/familiar magic really leaves a lot to be desired with both Skyrim and Oblivion. Even Morrowind wasn't extremely fleshed out but it had more than both of the other games.
In Morrowind, you take your time, train and learn the magic you want and need and eventually your character is extremely powerful, even against some of the more challenging enemies. In Morrowind, I recently went through my first true playthrough with a mage character and once you master certain spells and craft your own, you immediately become really formidable and it makes you feel like you actually are controlling magic.
In Skyrim, you read a book and start blasting magic everywhere. No nuance, no depth, just read and shoot. It's really lackluster and always has been.
@@husky3gright...because floating in the air while casting fireballs or spamming arrows or throwing weapons is so much more challenging...as a knight with just a lot of gold and scrolls
Without a doubt. I loved Skyrim, but Morrowind is and continues to be my favorite game of all time. In 2002 I bought this for my PC and my mind was blown. The DLCs were fantastic.
So good!
My opinion is, that people tend to like their first TES game the most. My first was Oblivion and I would jump into a fire for how well the characters are written and the quest storytelling. I didn't like Skyrim much - skipping rant. Morrowind on the other hand... I bought it because of the Morroblivion and Skywind projects, hoping to play it through these mods one day... In fact though, I've fired it up just last week and I'm having a blast! I mean... I got plagued by strength 0 in a dungeon, was forced to leave all my inventory and take all my clothes off so I could run back to town to pray in a temple. Sigh, 10/10 actually having fun!
the worth of being fortunate enough to play the different installments while they were in their prime can't be overstated either
Ah the old walk of shame to Balmora after encountering your first Greater Bonewalker... Those were the days
I will always remember the thrill I felt when I found the tomb for the Ashlanders. Even following their directions when that first came out it was tough to find what rocks looked like dragons teeth where was this damn landmark. And then finally finding it going in and discovering how much more there was then what you were told to get. Or finding the Temple questlines hidden lore actually discovering you were talking to certain Aedra, avatars. Where was this in Oblivion or hell in Skyrim.
The irony of Skyrim's dark elves is they complain the Nords are racist to them. Meanwhile in Morrowind... "Get these filthy N'Wahs out of our land." At least the Nords don't go around calling everyone the n word lol.
Yea, yea, yea you n'wah
Morrowind was my first Elder Scrolls game. I even killed Vivic.
It was such a game changer for the rpg genre, my mind was so blown at all of the intricacies
Vivic captured in Azuras star has the highest enchantment ability possible.
Sorry that was not really a Convincing video. I just thought it was too short. You could of went more into detail of how the combat and magic system was changed other than just saying they were dumber down. Show not tell.
Even though it's dated now, I still feel it's a better game for sure.
Morrowind was my first ES game, I was in highschool. I remember It took me one year to finish it... why? Because I could only play it during summer breaks... why? Because I couldn't stand playing it just for a few hours during school days, I had to play it from early morning to late night, every day. I remember spending hours just looking at the sky, It was magical....
I'm going to make an argument for the combat in Morrowind over Skyrim. While not well executed (some dodge, miss or glancing hit animations would be appreciated), Morrowinds dice roll mechanics adds to the immersion by adding a layer of chaos to it. There is a unique pride when the RNG gods would smile on you and you would get a lucky hit on an enemy that was kicking your arse. On the flip side of that it's a humbling experience when you get overconfident, only to have an enemy stagger you with a hit and turn the tables. There were enemies you would fear because of their weapon or race. Imagine a Bosmer vs Nord fight. An agile short blade Bosmer is hard to hit and can be death by 1000 cuts to a strength based character. Alternatively a strong blunt weapon Nord just needs 1 critical hit and it's over. It takes the unpredictable excitement of RNG and adds it to real time combat and personally I love it
Yeah I'm a nerd who enjoys the Morrowind style too tbh
Morrowind actually made you think and have to work it out yourself to finish a quest. It never held your hand to tell you where to go with ridiculous quest markers. You had to ask for directions, follow the signs or else you could easily get lost. You start out hilariously weak until you end the game as ridiculously overpowered. Skyrim thought it would be better to just hand everything to you. I mean, you become a Thane in just less than twenty minutes of playing the game without really earning it. Even Oblivion is better for many reasons because at least you get acknowledged for all your deeds. You become leader of the Thieves Guild, Dark Brotherhood, Champion of the Arena, Arch-Mage and a hero of a town, people actually acknowledge you. In Skyrim, they treat you as an errand boy with no respect even after everything you did for them. Like, the College of Winterhold questline is just hilariously ridiculous. You don't even need to be a spellcaster to become an Arch-Mage!
Rip to all the Oblivion middle children
The combat system is far beyond anything even 21 years later has. Weapons had multiple attack styles chop(bludgeoning), slash(slashing), thrust(piercing) that each weapon can do specializing in one or two or even all three for the halberds, enemies were also resistant or weak, the hit chance was affected by your Proficiency in the weapon and your agility so stats and training actually mattered. If you are not proficient in spellcasting, spells could fail their casting and waste all your Magicka. Even if you were specialized in Magicka if it were low on health and stamina there was a chance that a spell could fail if you are being pressured by the enemy. Your stats had a far greater impact on your ability to navigate and fight and explore the world. Morrowind was extremely massive and had so many features that have yet to be reproduced
That'a a good point that the designed-for console aspect of the newer titles is part of why they were 'dumbed-down" in comparison. I think it's cool that all these years later we essentially have the next-gen Elder Scrolls, and it's just basically modded Morrowind with an open source engine lol
"next gen" hahahaahhahahahhahahahyahahahhahahahahhahahahahaha
@@arielshligman2146 Okay. The greatest gen then XD
@@JosephAlanMeador sure sure obtuse mechnics broken magic system its a fun geame great stroy dont pretend it hasnt aged like milk in the gameplay deparment mean while skyrim is great adn with a few mod you can better magic there is even magic crafting
@@arielshligman2146 Well, that's your opinion =). I love Morrowind, and enjoy it more than Skyrim. It's the game for me. Take care
@@arielshligman2146 Skyrim is a good game too, no doubt. But Morrowind has aged much better than you say. Sure, it has it's flaws and broken bits, but that's all fixed with OpenMW as your engine. As a world to be immersed in it's incomparable for me. It's stood the test of time.
Morrowind, despite, or maybe because of its dated systems, is so much better in "immersivion" than any other more modern RPG. And the main reason for that is.... consequences. You can't do everything in asingle playthrough. Modern games pride themselves with "you can do it all", but in the end, that makes the experience ... more meaningless. A choice is not a choice if you can reverse it with a blink of an eye.
Morrowind taught me, that vampires and werewolves are dangerous.
Oh, and the music score of Morrowind is superior to any other game that existed. You can't prove me wrong.
But the best thing about Morrowind? The story of the main (player) character. Are you the 'chosen one'? You don't know, the imperial agents admit, that they chose you for that role, because you fit some of the criteria of a prophecy, but not to 'save the world' but to increase the Empires influence over the province. You are, at first just a tool and nothing special.
And then, throughout the game, it is showed that the 'chosen one' is not per se 'chosen' but is forged by the path she/he takes. Making the 'chosen one' not a fix persona, but something anyone potentially could become. You begin to meet the criteria through the journey you are making.
That's honestly so much better than 'You are born with a Dragonsoul, that's why you are special." No, in Morrowind the story revolves around a character that becomes special by the path taken. And even after the great success of actually fullfilling the prophecy, the Nerevarine is not without opposition. She/He's not a hero to all or even known by all.
- Incredible Soundtrack
- Can't do it all / Can do it all, but not all at once.
- Story that does not revolve around the player being a hyper powerful being destined to save the world.
- Actual growth of the player character in power... or not, you can make bad decisions, which limit your maximum powerlevel.
- You can be thrown out of organisations for good, without being able to get back in.
- You can kill important NPCs and break the stories of the game completely. Yep, that's a good thing.
- Certain NPCs will kill you, other Enemies are an actual threat and very, very, very dangerous. Avoid Vampire Dens if you are not prepared (to be fair, strong memory, first time I went by accident into a Vamp-Den, my character was around level 3 and definitely not prepared for what was coming)
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About the combat: I'd actually argue that technically the combat *is* better than in Skyrim. Hear me out, yes Skyrim combat is more fluid and feels more responsive, it is also much more illogical and unimmersive. What you say?
Yeah, Skyrim combat does not take character skill or experience into account, but player skill. And that's bad for an RPG. Morrowind actually puts the importance on character skill and not player skill. The better the skill of your character, the better is the character. at doing what she/he does.
To be efficient and deadly with short-bladed weapons, your character *NEEDS* to be trained with short-bladed weapons. In contrast, in Skyrim you can switch weapons from Daggers to Warhammers if you feel like doing so, and you'd, even with a lesser skill-level, be able to beat down all enemies with it. Because damage is always applied.
The dice-roll system may seem outdated, but due to the modifiers at play, it *simulates* the skill of all combatants and there includes in the dice-rolls the chance to avoid and miss, to block and parry etc. etc.. And this is why I'd say that, on a technical level, Morrowind combat is *still* superior and actually *more* realistic than the Skyrim action-combat-system and even better and more realistic than the Souls-Like combat systems, which purely revolve around player skill and not character skill.
Which is the biggest weakness and biggest problem I have with Souls-like games. These games actually revolve around me, not my character, which is, unimmersive as f'.
I think that making the player read text and work things out (no objective marker) forces them to become more immersed in the game and I really do think most players would learn to love it if they could overcome the accessibility barrier. Morrowind is a daunting game for the first time player by modern standards and if someone decided to give it a go the first thing the game does is have them make a lot of quite significant choices before they even get to start exploring the world. I think the game could do a better job at explaining it's mechanics to new players as well. But like I said, if a player makes it to their second play-through then I think that is going to be one of their favourite gaming experiences. There isn't another game like Morrowind!
Personally my favourite Elder Scrolls is Daggerfall. Morrowind is good but it really did lose a lot of complexity from Daggerfall. Daggerfall was a step up from Arena but Morrowind did feel like a step down even if its world design was clearly superior. I mean really, why take climbing away from us? I loved climbing in Daggerfall :P
The real problem with Oblivion and Skyrim of course was levelled loot. When I get a Daedric Artifact? I don't care what level I am, that should be a powerful piece of gear! Not so in Oblivion and Skyrim though!
god yes, i hated that they removed climbing in Morrowind, then they removed levitation and super jumping in Oblivion. and who can forget the Daedric Crescent and the original Robes of St. Roris. totally OP gear that you could pretty much get at level one if you could survive getting to them.
Someone had to say it! Morrowind is the G.O.A.T.!
Truth!
Played morrowind back in 2004/5 for first time my first 3d rpg and was mind blown I just ran around and my dumb ass didn't know wtf to do. Gone back and played it with the openmw mod and it still holds up defo best eldar scrolls game.
Generally when people say they don't like Morrowind I just hear 'I have bad taste and zero patience' 😅
They can't comprehend the beauty that it is!
agree with everything 100% id also add that all items had a fixed location giving even simple swords you find in a chest an imied backstory. and every person had fixed personal belongings, so if you game accross a maxed out grand soul gem on some wizard lying face down under a mushroom, you knew it was rng gods, it was because you had an uncanny nose for it. i cant say enough how glad I am you made this video. best game of all time. agree with all the other nerds in here
I miss the custom spells and the dwemer ruins and the corpus disease. It felt so much better to me. I would use unlock spells and just supe myself up hard haha
THE best Elder Scrolls. So many memories from back in the day! It's even better than ever in OpenMW and with the right mods. Quality of life and graphics are amazing, and so I've been diving deep into it again past few days. I'm currently using a slightly modified "Vanilla Director's Cut" modlist, it's great.
I started on Skyrim back when the legendary edition came out and after trying out the other ones especially morrowind it wasn’t my favorite at first but after giving it so many tries later it became one of my favorite elder scrolls games making it my top one instead of Skyrim
Morrowind did jobs better....
It did factions better by NOT letting you be a member of two opposing factions. Choices matter..
I like that it took ac and stats into account during combat with d&d style dice rolls.
I like that areas and monsters had set levels and they didnt change based on player level like newer games.
I like that magic was something you had to learn and experiment with and wasnt just shoot different colored lights or sparkles.
I like how Morrowind factions had rankings that actually mattered. You didnt join a faction and get told to be its savior from the start and then 5 mins later be the leader. You actually had to work your way up the ranks.
I like that in Morrowind you werent a "chosen one" or a "dragonborn"...you were just a normal person in a world or turmoil trying to stay alive and do whats right.
These are all things I think it did much better than any other ES game and i hope come into ES 6
I would enjoy a Morrowind remake if it was faithful, however I can't see that happening without large changes that ultimately would make the game lesser.
not on me sadly when i feel weak, i feel useless and want to give up, but when i´m strong i feel more awesome and incrible.
Skyrim and Oblivion took all the joy of exploration and wonder of discovery out of the equation. Morrowind is the king! Even in narrative aspect Morrowind and Elden Ring have a lot of similarities. In both games story is delivered is in bits and pieces which player is meant to put together.
Recently I decided to play Morrowind once again and, for some reason, got attacked and killed by guard after choosing my class.
10/10
Was playing a new character just last night, instead of walking to Balmora I took the path to pelagiad, was solicitated via a bandit for a kiss, I did so, he flirted my character up and wanted to rendezvous to a nearby tavern, I do so, he becomes something of a mentor in mercantile to me, come across another female along the road also smitten with a bandit, wants me to deliver her gloves to him, okay, we're in the same boat, why not, back track, hook them up. Wander into a patrons room in the inn while looking for my bed to rest up before hitting the road again, get told to GTFO, do so. For two hours I was completely immersed again in a game from 20 years ago.
That's all to say nothing of the shenanigan's of Kahjit body packer I came across while trying to help out the thieves guild. Looking for some Dwemer merch, local trader has it but wont sell, find a smuggling ring in his basement, bribe all his friends to find the location of his stash, they all ignore me, Leader down stairs offers me to lead a cat man to Balmora, hey I am going back there soon, why not? Cat man tells me they will gut him for the sweet sweet crack in his stomach. Consider completing the deal as it might gain me favor to getting info on the dwemer stash, decide again it. F these guys, cast spell on way out on hidden chest, found the loot, steal it, get into fist fight with my Khajit slave friend backing me up, hightail it to balmora, take giant bug to Vivec city to take a boat to the Argonian retreat, hailed as a hero there now. Loop back to Balmora, pay my fine, get paid. Feel like a complete boss at lvl 2.
Joined the local fighters Guild if only to loot their stash of healing potions for free, take care of some rats they say. No problem. Loot a hundred or so pillows, saved them from the "rats". Get promotion, told to kill some human vermin this time, local egg poachers. Head down the river, every miner knows about them but not where they are. suspicious but continue into the mine, on edge from worker drones, leave the eggs laying around be. Head deep into the mine, two fellow dunmer bloaks come at me with pick axes, start ponding my skull like its a bed of some sweet Obsidian ore, carve them up like the rats, loot about 40 eggs off them, two pounds a pop, leave the eggs, screw that. Boss wants me to kill some rogue Telvani, know all Telvani are rogue by definition, press the nord boss, she admits their really Thieves guild, knows that I am also apart of their faction and to not report on my self. Fair point. Begin to prepare to lay low from my own guild as being hunted by the Thieves guild sounds better than being hunted by the fighters guild. Bout to start a gang war, but not before joining mages guild and donating about a dozen of the local flora I picked on the way here, still have 3 dozen of everything after the fact, sell it for pennies. Loot Mana potions. Rest up in the Mage guild to leave a dawn, hear a loud noise. Look around, nothing, talk to my cat mentor, get shanked in back after convosation. Dark Brotherhood Assassin again, everyone ignores the assassin trying to kill me, they don't help. Come out on top, screw this guild. Leave for Caldera mines. Close game for the night...good times.
Morrowind npc shout taunts and insults during battle was a pioneer concept
Getting called a "swit" and "n'wah" was always hilarious to me. Me and my brother would laugh our ass off while playing.
I think Morrowinds combat system is better for roleplaying than Skyrim. It's reasonable that if you pick up a weapon type youve never used, you'd be clumsy with it and miss or be easier to evade. In Skyrim you basically land every strike you throw, all skill level effects is how much damage it does, which makes no sense.
The thing that made Morrowinds combat feel bad was the lack of satisfying feedback. All they'd need to do really is give it some nice animation. at low level your strikes could be slow and clumsy and use more stamina, to show that you aren't used to weapons balancing and weight. But as you level up the skill you become faster and more precise. Then when you've mastered it youre a surgeon with the thing. And have the enemy actually move and evade. That would mean you could keep Morrowinds "sometimes you miss" system while making it engaging and feel good.
Yeah, the PC first UI of Morrowind is fantastic. The fact I can click on the map and add notes, delete old unwanted spells, resize windows, toggle windows to always remain on the screen, there is just so much perfection in it that makes me look at the Skyrim UI and gag.
Only thing I dont like about morrowind was the text boxes but thays because I'm dyslexic autocorect for me is a lifesaver
Hmm indeed to think about that - I enjoy reading stuff (including books) so amount of options during dialogue might be a thing (more time to get rewarded by all stats that I level up or buff with mixtures ) and that guide-less flow.
I remember playing Skyrim for the first time, absolutely staggering, but morrowind was an entirely different experience, there was so much choice in character style and so much more complexity to lore and mechanics, so good!
I liked the video, good work, keep it up, I’ll say this though, I couldn’t really tell when your introduction was over or if there even was one, idk, it was kind of hard for me to follow here and there
Thanks for the feedback it helps!
@@TheNathanNAPALM no problem man!
I wish they would make TES 6 have Quests (and leveling/character creation) like Morrowind with updated graphics. That would be a HUGE win… but I doubt they will go that route. You gotta dumb it down for the casual gamer so you hit your sales goals 🙄🙄
You need to use graphic mods Nathan, looks 10 times better then, and check out tamriel rebuilt mod that adds Morrowind's mainland to the game.
Thank you I will
I have seen Morrowind described as Kafkaesque. It is the sheer weirdness of the game that draws me back again and again. Skyrim has cows and chickens compared to guar and kwama. Morrowind is just a more flavorful game.
Couldn't agree more
Does it work with controller on steam?
Yes also they made a full multiplayer mod so you can play on servers with like 64 players or just with your friends and do a coop campaign
@@Nikotheleepic oh fooook ima look into that sounds amazing
I know this video is old now buuut someone made a mod that changes the combat to be more like oblivion/skyrim. Its made bows viable now without having to be high marksman
This man must be LOVING BG3.
Definitely am!
i hated reading as a kid, in school we had to take quizzes on books we read from the school library, we got points from each quiz, the better you do on the quiz the more points you get, and we had to have a certain amount of points at the end of the month......i hated reading so much, i wouldn't read the books, i would juat guess all the answers on the quiz, and even if you get most of the answers wrong you can still get enough points if you do enough quizzes.....anyways Morrowind was so damn good i read those walls of text and played thru the whole game and read everything, it was awesome.
Yeah I understand, RPGs like Morrowind and others made me love to read
Morrowind requires you to put in a little effort to get the most out of it, but boy does it pay off! It's like investing in real life. You sacrifice slightly now to reap huge dividends later. Skyrim is like a candy bar. Itis instant gratification, but in the end you just end up poor and fat.
What is there to prove? This is common sense :D
i played morrowind at launch, and was so eager to get skyrim. and it flopped so hard. skyrim is not playable after morrowind. i am so sad that elder scrolls make skyrim and ruined the whole thing :(
youll never get the same complexity again. Morrowind graphically was much more forgiving creatively. if bethesda or any company really released a game that was no graphically more impressive than what came before it would be dogpilled. better graphics, higher polygon counts, more voice acting and more particale effects and shaders means less time spent on quests, writting and mechanics. the bulk of players wanting just something visually appealing is the cause of games being dumbed down. gaming is no longer an involved active thing its become a dumb passive activity to switch your brain off to.
long live the king
Spitting the truth. Bring back the RPG in elder Scrolls you N'wahs.
Morrowind!!! First played on the OG Xbox.
Also where I played it, how amazing they were able to get Morrowind on consoles back then
Was gonna carry on with pathfinder kingmaker tonight as im fairly far into it... However.... Might have to restart morrowind instead 😂😂
M'y first entry in thé elder Scrolls was Oblivion and it was such a blast , for thé first Time i Saw a 3D game leaving thé all freedom to thé player to go and do what ever you want, i played Skyrim and it was nice graphically i also think that thé New hand système in combat is Bad its a régression , not being able to cast spell with thé "3rd" hand IS a Time loss in a fight especially for a mix class, but i loved thé werewolf and thé vampire Lord is a great audition to thé game, im playing morrowind openmw now, and i enjoy it i GOT used to how thé game works and oh boy morrowind IS Big and thé World design IS Amazing insanely great, for thé next elder Scrolls what they should do to make thé greater es IS take thé spell casting from Oblivion, thé World design of morrowind , thé combat système and finish of Skyrim with thé werewolf and vampire Lord systèm, plus being back thé class systèm and give starting equipment and spells for thé classes WE choose, would bé great, but WE CAN forget it would rake top much Time for Bethesda, and WE know they liké to make thé more sells with less investment and Time to make a game. And i forgot daggerfall unity IS good too but literrally a dungeon crawling game but thé Idea of having random qu'est with npc IS a New breath, morrowind IS a nice balance it not as trendy as Skyrim and not as tedious and boring as daggerfall Can bé 👍👌
May you slay the algorithm and send it to its heathen gods.
Morrowind has the best gameplay for mages than any other game I've played
Morrowind best. Can’t wait for remaster. Looks great
Yeah the one game that actually needs a remake
A true current gen remake of Morrowind or Daggerfall would absolutely make me squeal with delight
That render distance is atrocious
Here is my advise - >Play this game with mods.
I like vanilla
Oh 100% Its on gamepass and xcloud so its just so easy to play.
Good point, tons of mods to play with too
played through the main story quests, a few side quests and halfway through the bloodmoon dlc recently...
i liked the world building and that it required a more methodical approach aswell as exploring to be more interesting and rewarding
but overall the game is boring, stale and broken...
combat, while more complex is awful and immersion breaking (i forgive that though because of technical limitations)
most of the world is empty and boring
the enemy are annoying (especially cliffracers every few metres)
balance doesn't exist
most systems range from broken to completely useless
most characters have no character
the game fails to explain itself properly most of the time
sorry but i got no rose tinted glasses on and i just catched up on morrowind recently
and while not hating it, i would definitly not play through it more than once
skyrim is amazing but one of the best with mods but with morrowind vanilla it is legendary and for me the best rpg ever mainly because I don't play many rpg's
Its almost absurd how many completely valid playstyles there are in morrowind
For instance. My latest playthrough I'm essentially Tony stark and am slowly building a suit of heavy power armor. Enchant with a jump spell and you can launch yourself to the top of a mountain. Load up your gauntlets with offensive spells. Boost your strength and restore health or fatigue, etcetera. It's a completely valid and fun playstyle.
Such a classic
Haha remember how excited your brother was that I was moving in with you guys because I had an Xbox and morrowind lol
Everything about Skyrim is just so generic and mildly interesting. The world of Morrowind just looks way more interesting, completely alien and otherworldly. Skyrims world just ticks the boxes for a passable fantasy world and really doesn't try to go outside the box.
cope
PC Gamer Master Race!
I actually prefer morrowind combat. Every strike is like a gamble; you don’t know if it’s gunna hit lol. Skyrim combat can just get so boring.
Morrowind is a big brain game for adults and hardcore nerds. Skyrim is a childish dragon game marketed to the masses. Skyrim being voiced only made it worse, the dialogue in the game is pathetic and borderline embarrassing. I think the highest IQ nord hits around 80.
just add to Skyrim type game more Morrowind feel on markers + main story, and in combat when we miss make it visible via animation with dice roll system xd
It is blatantly obvious. Not sure why you’d have to prove it.
1 minute in and complexety does not mean good most of the time its the oppisite
I agree sometimes but for examples such as the ability to make your own spells and effects or to make more diverse builds with more options for stats, this time I think it is for the better
@@TheNathanNAPALM I disagree usually when you make you're own spell it's really limited and reduce the verity of spell as they would have to take in to account every magical effect
I honestly not a big Skyrim fan. Oblivion already was a flat experience after Morrowind, not just the Skill system dumbed down but Morrowind had an exceptional world which was so unique that I didn't see similar since. And I agree, if people can live without questmarkers (Elden Ring), then why in every game have to be a stupid marker...?
Oblivion was just generic fantasy land while Morrowinds world was very original
I like how every argument for Morrowind and against Skyrim is, “I know Skyrim did this in a way that’s more fun, but since Morrowind is less fun it’s better.”
Skyrim has taken systems from Morrowind but hollowed them out to be less meaningful. I like Skyrim, but as far as RPGs go, Morrowind wins
@@TheNathanNAPALM like what?
You could make your own spells in Morrowind, like actually create whatever you want, Morrowind has loads more dialog options with npc’s, Morrowind had 27 skills : Skyrim only has 18, in Morrowind you got immersed easier because it didn’t lead you by the nose with quest markers on the compass, and there is more, that’s just what I can think of. In Skyrim’s defense, it does have much better combat
@@TheNathanNAPALM I’ll give you the spell crafting. I don’t think the extra skills make Morrowind a better RPG. They just make you slower and less proficient with the use of different weapons. Skyrim still lets you invest in skill trees to improve proficiency with certain weapons while still making them all useable. The extra dialogue options in Morrowind aren’t that great though. It just makes finding the information you need more difficult and most of those dialogue options are shared by multiple NPCs. It makes them feel more like information directories than characters. I also disagree that you feel more immersed in the world just because there are no waypoints or fast travel. First of all, you can just not mark quests active in Skyrim if you don’t want waypoints. Secondly, it just means you have to walk through a bunch of random nothingness for 10 minutes before you get to the thing you actually want to do. Combine that with the fatigue meter running out after 30 seconds, and the game boils down to mostly just walking and waiting around doing nothing while your stamina recharges. It honestly takes me out of the experience. Not to mention the voice acting in Skyrim makes the characters feel like characters. I can’t name any characters from Morrowind except Caius, Vivec, and Dagoth Ur, and I’m playing the game right now. I just don’t care about anyone in this world because every NPC just feels like a fetch quest giver or lore dump. Also, I’m fine with Morrowind not having quest markers, but can’t the NPCs mark on my map where my destination is? Like, if the game gives me a map, it would stand to reason that anyone who knows where I need to go could show me on my map where it is instead of relying on their poor and sometimes incorrect directions. The journal is also a mess and makes it nearly impossible to keep track of which quests are still active. Just because the game’s mechanics are more inconvenient doesn’t mean it’s more immersive.
@@TheNathanNAPALM Also has more customization with armor/clothing.
When I tried Morrowind a couple months ago, there were two things that made me give up on it, the dialogue and combat. I REALLY couldn't get used to the combat, it was just so annoying and it just felt like I was doing trial and error. The no dialogue, yeah it bothers me aesthetically, but it mostly bothers me because the dialogue box and mechanic is so overwhelming. Its great that there's so many options, but like I can't for the life of me remember anything they said and I end up getting lost constantly because I don't know what to do. I remember stuff in Skyrim and Oblivion mostly because of the dialogue has audio AND subtitles so I have more to go off of. I don't think this is hand holding, more like a necessary addition.
I don't hate this game, and I want to play this game so much, but I lose the motivation because the flaws I mentioned make the game not fun.
At least you have a journal that tracks quests and directions, you don't even get that in dark souls
The things you called flaws are not flaws, they are part of the game. If you can't remember what an NPC said look it up in your journal. If you dont like the combat make a character that can avoid it (or one that starts out of gate as a master combatent).
@@arturnicaciodeandrade9861 The combat’s still broke. Dice and roll doesn’t meshed well with 3D rendered games.
To read or not to read, what was the question? Oh yeah time and time again you as well as I have found our selves spamming through dialog just to hti the accept button. Whats that word everyone likes to fall back on when they can find a good reason to express them selves? Ah wait for it YEAH!!! IMMERSION the whole breaks it for me. I am not wanting to read a novel when I am playing a " video game" when most text dose not apply to me. Take care of each other be safe and may God bless. peace I'll be praying for you. Bo
Jesus gibs you post alot on here lol
3 times a week
I still never played Morrowind but considering how tedious and badly designed I think Skyrim is it's already aces in my book.
Lol
Plz no jesus i need objs on my map. I have elden ring and the most frustrating part for me is navigating
Skyrim is the medieval-ey action game for people who don't play RPGs
not really medieval. The medieval era was very different from whatever people say it was, Skyrim (and similar games) should be said to be "generic fantasy" because thats more on line with what they are.
Playing on PC, the mods are what make the game. Morrowind in 2023 now has AI voice acting for 90% of dialogue options, beautiful textures, high resolution, improved lighting, shading, and combat mods that allow enemies and you to time dodge attacks, always hit, cut off body parts, and combo for special effects. Is it as good as modding Skyrim to be more like Morrowind? That's a question worth asking.
Morrowcope.
The issue with Morrowind is that it doesn't do anything the best.
Best quests - Oblivion
Best open world/dungeons - Skyrim
Most RPG elements - Daggerfall
Morrowind is better than Arena but worse than Skyrim and Daggerfall and POSSIBLY Oblivion. The combat is tied with Oblivion for being among the worst in all of video games and the brown and gray open world loses it's charm after a few hours.
I remember Razorfist saying in one of his old videos that Morrowind is the Final Fantasy 7 of the Elder Scrolls series. Meaning it was the first game for many TES fans, so therefore it has to be the best. A textbook example of people being slaves to their own nostalgia and being incapable of admitting the game they grew up with is inferior to ones that are objectively better.
it has nothing to do with nostalgia.
morrowind is objectively best RPG in the series.
everything afterwards seems empty and dumbed down
tes series is turning into hack and slash action game.
so that newer generations can just jump into it and left mouse click through the game by following compass markers
morrowind had more npcs than both oblivion and skyrim combined.
I can’t think of a more lukewarm take than morrowind being better than Skyrim.
Sometimes a lot of people feel compelled to say something because it is true, I wanted to say it, and I did and a lot of people enjoyed my take so no regrets
if i wanted to read i would open up a book skyrim is way better morrowind sucks
So you think a game is bad because it doesn't have voice acting . By that logic every single game that doesn't have voice acting sucks . Also what skyrim does better then morrowind other than graphics ?
@@DiegoXRA exploration, just walking around the game and im enjoying my session idc if you can fly in morrowind using some spell or enchanment thats just fun for a 30 seconds youtube video, i hate walking in around while hearing em flappy footsteps with the same 3 songs looping up.
will play it once they remake it with better sound design and art direction
@@CocktailMojito You can reduce the footsteps volume in the settings and btw you can fly more then 30 seconds . Long enough to travel anywhere in the map . You have to create custom potions and spells through a alchemist build or a mage build with alchemy as a skill for that .
No thank you I like non-trash gameplay
Nah Skyrim better
Maybe if every part of the game all the way down to the conversations didn’t play like complete shit you’d have a point.
The fact your turning on this game over skyrim means your not looking very hard for new games just taking the first random trash you find
Calling Morrowind “trash” is very absurd
@@TheNathanNAPALM The fact people can call it a good game in our modern day is absurd i would call arena and daggerfall or indie trash better games before i acknowledge marrowind as anything other then a janky mess as someone who still touts final fantasy brilliance in comparison final fantasy 11 being better then 14 and have beaten marrowind my rpg respect is just alot different in what im willing to classify a masterpiece over trash counting how many action quality rpgs are out todate and released every single year i mean when people can make lists of hundreds of games they like more its not a lie or wrong to say gaming is just different to me then you i mean i already beat elden ring and most modern rpgs sponge bob battle for bikini bottom any one thats a better rpg witcher 3 pokemon sun and moon skyrim dragon quest age and ball z code vein bloodborne beating games and comparing games to games like this sounds more like your just stuck in nostalgia you cant see the forest from the trees
@@roxaskinghearts I’m young, and I started playing Morrowind about a year in a half ago and I believe it’s wayyy better than Skyrim. So I don’t think it’s him looking through rose tinted glasses, it’s just something that is universally agreed upon.
@@TheHeroicBlockhead and there are tuns of games way better then skyrim bloodborne and elden ring to name 2 how about breath of the wild or skyward sword final fantasy 7 remake and final fantasy 15 runescape and final fantasy 14 fallout 4 and no mans sky like i said moron do you debate everything you refuse to read also no marrowind isnt better then skyrim daggerfall is arena could be with mods to fix gameplay giving a more controller feel like unity daggerfall or you could go the route if you have vip eso is better all the options in the world and i dont know how people can say there board
we lost so much good content since morrowind in es games.