Tair 11A. 20 blades 135mm bokeh monster reviewed and compared with the best vintage 135mm lenses.
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- This video reviews one of the most intriguing and muscular film era lenses - the 20 bladed Tair 11A. Is it worth buying? Do you really need 20 blades? And how does it compare with the best 135mm lenses made for film cameras?
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The Tair's ability to produce round bokeh balls at f8 is one of it's most attractive features.
Very nice review, as usual. I like my Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 135mm f3.5 for portraits and flowers shooting.
Fun fact: The Tair-11 was part of the "set" of lenses (which included the Mir-1) sent from the Soviet Union to the Brussels World Fair, which then won the "Grand Prix" medal. I've only been lucky enough to get my hands on the other Soviet 135's (Jupiter 11 & 37A) and do thoroughly enjoy them, the Jupiter-11 is my go-to for emulating a really early, bloomy, 'film' style look while the 37A I find can render quite a modern looking image.
Since I'm heavy infected with GAS, I find it interesting to collect this set. Unfotunately I haven't found sound information about the whole set. Does anybody know which lenses the set contained? So far I know about the MTO-8/500, MTO-10/1000, Tair-3, Tair-11, Mir-1, Helios 40. Got all of them, but not all market with the "Grand prix". The Soviets must have been quite proud of the prize, since they kept the marking a long time. You can find "Grand prix brussels 1958" marking on Mir-1 lenses made as late as 1966...
@@sidekickbob7227 Interesting, I have Mir 1a and Tair 3 Photosniper I didn't know they were from a set.
@@imarcus1973 this is not the photosniper version of the Tair-3, but the first version with normal focus and aperture control. I should have put "set" in "", because the lenses was exhebited togheter at the world fair, and the collection received the Grand Prix. I don't know or have any proof the Soviets looked at them, or designed them to be a set.
@@sidekickbob7227 Ah ok I understand what you mean, I didn't know there was a non sniper version of the Tair 3, though I do like the focus wheel underneath. It's a superb lens for deep sky astrophotography btw.
@@imarcus1973 superb for deep sky? Intersting. One more thing to test out... I can imagine the focus wheel is a neat feature. My lens has about 355 degree rotation from closest focus to infinity. Smooth as a baby's butt, sometimes the aperture rotation, transfers into the focus adjusment, and pulls it out of focus...
I bought this lens quite a while ago, and paid through the nose for it. I love it and find it very unique.
Excellent review with some truly beautiful images. One of the things i hoped for when i sent it was to see what it is capable of in the hands of a really good photographer. I now can't wait to have another play
That lens, properly focused as you have it in the demo photos, produces some truly excellent work. I love the truly gaussian blur that you get from the background past the focal length of the lens. It's a stunning effect that is challenging to get that lovely with modern lenses.
I bought back in 2018 the cheapest and most low end dslr that i can get where i live the canon eos 4000d with that s#ity kit lens 18-55mm.Two days later my dad told me that he has somewhere some old cameras with some old lens,helios44m4 and that one.I ran FAST to search if i can mount thise lens on my dslr and ohhhh boy!!i did it.My photos just skyrocketed!!!
Thanks for making this. I have had the Tair 11 series on my radar for awhile now and have been held back by wondering if its really worth the money. I am impressed by your results, yet I remain unsure. I have other lenses in the category to play with, but should a Tair 11 drift my way for a good price I'll probably commit. Thanks for making another great video, Simon! Also, impressed that you fixed it.
That's a great tip about making mono images from this lens. They have a lovely vintage quality. I recently bought a 135mm Jupiter 37A, which has 12 aperture blades and all the low contrast characteristics of the Tair. It needs a long hood to stop images washing out and came with one originally. I'm using mine on a Sony A7iii full frame body and the low contrast makes Sony focus peaking a bit tricky for the camera. The 37A is very sharp though and a nice compact lens to use, with very nice bokeh throughout the f stops. Post processing, I use Autotone in PS, then fade it back a bit. That solves most problems with the lack of contrast.
10:56 That Sammy is one lens I never travel without. The sharpest, loveliest lens I have ever had, modern or vintage, price-tag-irrespective. Samyang/Rokinon 135mm F2. the king of 135mm. Period.
Excellent review Simon.
I have the SMC Pentax 135/2.5 and love it. As fortune would have it, I have a clean looking copy of the SMC Pentax-A* 135/1.8 on its way from Norway, so I'm very excited at the prospect of giving it a whirl!
I have this lens; it’s a 000 lens, so no idea about the year it was made. It looked pristine when I got it. It’s a fantastic lens and pin-sharp when you nail focus; thank goodness for focus peaking. It’s not a focal length I use much, but I have some fantastic portraits of my bunny 🐰 that I treasure. Beautiful Bokeh. My instinct is to shoot slightly stopped down, only half a stop, which works fantastically with my Jupiter-9 which is also a great sharp portrait lens with great Bokeh. One particular shot of mural artists at work impressed me, as it was backlit with evening golden light and trees behind, with the wind blowing the artists hair. I can count the individual strands of hair blowing in the wind, while the golden Bokeh through the trees behind is beautiful. Edited in CaptureOne to bring up the partly silhouetted figure reveals great detail. I use it with a focal reducer on a Fuji, so not too different from a full-frame camera, though I don’t have one to compare to. I was also testing out the Jupiter-3 on that day, shooting in Across simulation, and I was very happy with the portraits I got from that, with great detail in the face. I wasn’t concerned with corner sharpness in that case.
"Not our dog!". One can feel the sadness permeating the video!
I was able to get one mint from my local camera store. The aperture and focus rings are just buttery smooth. Can't wait to take some portraits with it!
That’s wonderful. Have fun!
I' had this lens for decades, and never knew it had a lens hood. Now today I find out that the front element also just screws out… Been trying to clean it for ever. 😇
This is a great informative video/channel. I like the very direct, to the point, clearly well informed delivery. Subbed.
Thank you!
Thanks Simon, I truly enjoy your videos.
I currently have an Auto Yashinon DS.M 135mm F/2.8 and find it to be a very satisfying lens to use. Cost me £45 and came with the original box and case.
I'm a big fan of using those old Yashinons too, although I don't have the 135mm.
Thanks for the nice review ☺️
The M42 Fujinon EBC 135mm f2.5 is also amazing lens from the same group of lenses, only not easy to find though...
I own a copy of this lens. I like using it for black & white photography. Light post processing takes care of sharpness/contrast issues. Round bokeh balls as you point out are the lens's strength. Heavy metal....in the world of photography.
3:20 you can see little screw on m42 mount, in Tair 11A (and other soviet lenses with "A") letter "A" means you can unscrew the m42 mount and place cpecial adapter "КП-А/Н" which means Nikon F mount. Then you can use it on all Nikon F mount cameras, full frame and crop.
Thanks for that piece of info and highly appreciated.
Happy to see the ISCO 135 3.5 on your list. Nice small, lightweight lens that I use often. My other favorite 135 is the Nikkor Q 3.5.
I have the Japanese version of the Tair 11-2 ......... Tokyo Koki Tele-Tokina 135mm f2.8 (15 blades). It cost me £12.50 !
This lens goes back to the early 60's. The Tokyo Koki name was dropped from the lenses in 1971.
I also have a 'cousin' of the Tele-Tokina which was launched in 1960 and marketed by Hanimex - the Tele-Lens 100mm f4 Triplet bought as part of a bundle with Exakta RTL1000, MOG Oreston 50mm f1.8 & Unitor 35mm f2.8 for the exorbitant total of £50 !
I found this lens at a thrift store for under $50. It's in great condition with all filters and the original leather case.
If you haven't bought it, will your care to mention which thrifty store was it? ;b
This lens is marvelous! simply marvelous my darlings!
Great review. I have an m39 133mm silver version and I have been happy with it. I 3D printed a ring to place inside the lens so that I can adjust the flange and make it still work at infinity focus on my Canon R5. I love the look of the silver lens too.
That's a clever way of making it work! Yes, the silver version is a fine looking lens.
@@Simonsutak I went to check on my lens and there was an aperture blade askew. I just spent 3 hours, and had to totally remove each blade and replace them by hand. First time trying anything like that. It was... tedious, but after I felt a sense of power that I can pretty much do anything. Whew.
A very enjoyable review👌
Great review, I'd been looking forward to it!
I'm not sure if I'd vouch for it being the best vintage 135, but I've been VERY impressed with the Jupiter 37A. I got it along with a couple of other lenses - it was cheap and looked like it'd been used thoroughly since being made in 1981, with a few small scratches, so I didn't have very high expectations. But as soon as I took it out for a walk, it really blew me away with both sharpness and character. I mostly use it as a "mini-tele" on a crop sensor, and it's got almost flawless corner to corner sharpness from F4 and up - while down at wide open it does make very pretty bokeh, even with a bit of Helios-like swirl to it. From what I understand, it's among the first Soviet lenses to feature relatively modern multi-coating, and it does show. It's a great performer in bright sunlit conditions especially. The colour rendition is not as "heavy" as what I saw in your Tair examples - but still quite high-contrast and rich. I think part of why it was so different from my expectations is because I associate the name Jupiter with the Jupiter 9, and that's considered a rather soft, dreamy, but not especially sharp or colourful lens, with blurry corners and vignetting. Well, the 37A really is the opposite of that on every account! Despite the wear and a few scratches, I would say that my copy makes razor-sharp and colorful pictures with no serious flaws (except for one or two small dark spots I sometimes have to edit out) - and I imagine a pristine one would be even better.
But the best part about the Jupiter 37A is its weight and form. On first look it might seem like a real "tank" of a lens - it's all metal, and especially in pictures it looks imposing. However it's actually among the lightest and most compact 135s I've tried (it's not the shortest). It's a 52mm filter thread, and is really just a tube of more or less exactly that width. In this way, it pairs very nicely with a Helios 44, or a Mir-1, which share the same thread on a shorter focal length (so you can easily use the same accessories for both - these plus a couple of other lenses in the same format got me invest in some gear and filters for 52mm thread specifically rather than adapting bigger filters or hoods). The Jupiter-37A focus ring is wide, easy to grip, and very smooth. I even had no trouble using it in the middle of Canadian winter in skiing gloves! So, from a usability point of view - it's a fantastic little lens that I'd heartily recommend.
My modern manual workhorse is the Samyang 135 f/2, so I've got a good understanding of this format - and in terms of pure optical sharpness, subject isolation, and smoothness of bokeh when wide open, the Samyang is many miles above any vintage lens I've tried. And it's so inexpensive for a new lens that if one just wants something as close to a perfect manual 135mm as possible, from the point of view of resulting pictures, it's not even a question - just buy one. Unless you end up with a defective copy, you won't regret it. While it's a larger focal length than, say, the Helios 40 that's been discussed on this channel - it's really a modern digital take on that category of monster art lenses, and has the same kind of power to isolate subjects and without virtually any of the flaws of something like the big Helios. The only caveat is that the Samyang lens also lacks any of the character eccentricity of vintage lenses - there's no swirling bokeh, no mysterious colour rendition, and no strange quirks to it. The colours on it can also be a bit dull - in that way it's the opposite of the Tair 11A; the Samyang's contrast is very good, but colours can come off a bit dull or even brownish (although that may be be slightly biased, because I often take it out in cloudy weather or poor light, where an f/3.5 lens wouldn't perform at all).
However... it is a bit of a beast - it's physically (much) larger than even the Helios 40, though a bit lighter in terms of weight and easier to operate as far as ring travel. Still, I've been finding myself reaching for the Jupiter 37A pretty often, especially for more casual walks. It's a little over 1/3rd the weight and size of the Samyang 135 f/2, and my copy was bought for a bit over 1/8th the price. And it's very pleasant to use, while retaining all those nice vintage qualities. So, while I'm not sure I'd recommend the Jupiter 37A as the best vintage 135mm - I would say that it went above and beyond my expectations. I only paid about $65 US for it, and it's the sort of lens where if I knew in advance how much I'd like it and how much use I'd get out of it - I would not have been unhappy even if I'd spent 2 or even 3 times that amount on it.
So I'd encourage anyone to give it a try if they come across a reasonably-priced copy!
just by way of examples, if anyone is curious - I threw together a few into an album on flickr, which can be found under:
/photos/192481143@N06/albums/72157718758506938/
Couldn't agree more on the Jupiter-37A, it's a fantastic lens and still goes for a great price!
tried tons of 135mm lenses but if i had to choose one, i would go with CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5
Good choice. That is before knowing Samyang 135mm F2.0
There is a kind of "in between version" ... I just bought a silver TAIR11-2 2,8/133mm M42!
Part of buying a Tair lens is having it. It also likes having it's picture taken. Someday some company will release a lens where you can slot in the aperature, where all the aperatures are perfect circles.
I know! I wish I still had this lens, even if it didn't go out much. Lomography has lenses similar to your idea: shop.lomography.com/uk/daguerreotype-achromat-2-9-64-art-lens
the black and white are amazing this lens has huge micro-contrast !!
I'm one of those people who will only ever use a portrait lens wide open, so the 20 blades really don't matter completely. My main driver for portraits nowadays doesn't even have an aperture :D But when you shoot the lens stopped down, this Tair was a little gem!
wait what how can it not have an aperture?
@@roddymcgtravels if it is a projector lens or a scope (like the Cyclop 85mm).
great review
I bought the Yashinon-dx 135mm f2.8 to complete my Yashinon dx set for video shooting. Really like minimalistic design of this lens. It holds up pretty well compared to my Canon 70-200 f4 L zoom, has less contrast but in terms of sharpness they are close.
The Jupiter 37a is amazing. This was a great review.
Absolutely. But in his final 3 peaks, he had CZJ Sonnar which is the original, from which Russians made a great (But not exact) copy, i.e. J-37A is mentioned. Yet the larger number of the blades in 37A (None MC ver) and probably half to 1/3 the price of CZJ justifies the MC and maybe the authenticity! of the CZJ!
Like to hear more from you, if you have had any hand on comparison experiences and btw, which version of 37A do you own?
i use the tair for a more dreamy look and a jupiter 37a for a more sharp contrasty look. i find the jupiter gives a really nice blur despite having 8 less aperature blades
I love my jupiter 37a
The Schneider Tele-Xenar Electric 3,5/135 is a great 135. Very sharp even wide open. Good contrast and colours. It's one of my favourites. Very high quality glass.
Thanks for all your work ! Verry Nice video, as always.
Could you make a video / a comment about Best Lenses to have flare ? U made an incredible, Nice work on bokeh ! I would really love having equivalent on flare (artistic flare). What would you advice, etc.
(sorry for my english)
Thanks for an interesting review! Let me recommend the accura supertel 135mm f2.8 (similar, if not the same, as the spiratone). Only used it on an APS-C crop camera, but it produces beautiful bokeh (I think it has 18 blades(?)) and is very sharp stopped down just a bit. My copy has a stiff focus ring, a real pain, but can be re-lubricated (one of my summer projects). Colors will wash out in bright light (use a polarizer, hood) but you can't beat the subject separation, smooth bokey and sharpness. Bokeh never became 'nervous'. Worked wonderfully well for macro with a few extension tubes! I've caught the vintage lens bug bad, starting collecting medium format lenses (645s), will you review some of these? Love the character of the vintage lenses, so much better than moderns IMO. Thanks for the video!
Recently got a helios auto 135mm f2.8. Only has 6 blades but its super sharp. Bit of chromatic but its a really nice look. Lots of character. And it was very cheap.
Thank you very much. Excellent review. I like very much my Tair-11 version. I find it sharp enough. Excellent for portraits. From sharpness point of view f4 lenses like Jupiter-11 and Voightlander Color-Dynarex (m42) are very good. The ones you compared to Tair are excellent choice. I tend to use focusing helikoid in place of standard 42 adapter on my mirror-less camera when I need just a little bit shorter distances.
I could bet you will look for your own Tair in the near future :) .
Ha! I nearly got one last week, but resisted the urge and bought a Meyer-Optik Gorlitz 100mm f2.8 instead! It'll be interesting to see how the 100mm stacks up to the 135mm.
@@Simonsutak Which one trioplan or orestor. I suppose Orestor as price-wise you could not compare Tair to Trioplan :) .
Thanks once more for those videos. Really well made, balanced and inspiring.
Hi. A small comment on the list of "monsters", since you highlighted some non M42 lenses.
The 9-bladed Nikon AI 135mm f/2 is undobtedly an excellent portrait lens, with the huge handicap of being overpriced (at least by the crazy sellers who populate eBay these days).
Today you can buy a used 135mm f/2 with autofocus and defocus control practically for the same price (840€ is the price for a new lens) and there is no battle between the two lenses.
Consider that you can buy the very good Nikkor AI 135mm f/2.8 with "only" seven blades for around 100€...
I hope you are able to shoot with the Zeiss Milvus 135 f/2 at some point if you have not already. It’s a wonderful lens and the manual focus is smooth and precise.
i have m42 macro bellow and use the tair for photographing jewellery work quite well works well also for studio portrait
I owned a white Tair-11 remade for M42 by an enthusiast, it was one of my favorite manual lenses
First off: Thanks so much for making this video! So valuable, as your other videos. I have tried the Pentacon 135mm f2,8 and I have to admit that I came to the same conclusion: For portraits (and I shoot adapted on Fuji = APS-C) I rather use fast 50ties like the Yashinon DS 50mm F1,7 or the CZJ Pancolar..
That's definitely one of the advantages of using a good crop sensor camera. Your fast fifties produce excellent 85mm-ish framed photos.
1:39 I love the Tair's detachable mount/adapter concept. What other mount/adapters eventually came out for it? It went as long at 1995, so maybe Minolta mount?
3:20 I've never thought about shutter speed controls on manual lenses (I only ever vintage lenses on shot mirrorless bods). Can one safely ignore this lens setting and instead have the mirrorless camera handle the shutter speed details?
As always another good video. My wife is blaming you for my recent ebay buying binge. I picked up a takumar 3.5 recently. It is remarkably sharp and makes a great portrait lens wide open. My one question to you, is how do you decide what lens to use each day?
It's tough. There's never enough time to use all the lenses I want to use. Living in the UK, especially in the winter months, when the sun comes out and the skies are blue...I want to take ten lenses out all at the same time! I have a 30 minute walk to work, so I'll always have a camera/lens with me, and sometimes two cameras (my small, cheap Song a6000, and my larger DSLR.
One approach I've found works for me (and the lens) is to take the same lens out for a week and really give it a good run out. Then it may sit unused for a long time, and sometimes I'll sell it on. So in theory I can use 52 lenses actively in one year.
Then I have lenses that suit specific situations - like walking with the family around a new part of town, or Spring blossoms, or picnics etc etc.
Finally, there are my "weekend lenses". Lenses I just put on the camera for fun and use around the house or outside. My Macro lenses are the most used like this.
@@Simonsutak I still sort of make a living at photography. My passion project has been jazz photography. Just launched a new site to go along with an upcoming exhibition. My hope is some of the vintage lenses will help me emulate some of the photos of my heroes. Site is having a few issues on mobile but if you are interested www.jazzshadows.com/
Awesome lens! One moment about the pronunciation though. You speak it like "t-air" while the proper variant is like the name Altair, just without "Al". Cheers!
Looking at those Pentacon oily blades I am itching to open it up and clean it for you. Few things about a lens look and work as great as a mirror-clean, smooth 15-20 bladed aperture on a 135mm lens.
Ha! Too late. I took the Pentacon apart, as some of the blades had come loose, and then all the blades fell out. I've opened up, cleaned and replaced blades before...but never 15 blades. It's going to be a winter-time project.....
I bought the Tair-11 with its standard M42 base, then discovered the A-mount the maker used is almost identical to SOME T2 mounts (not all) and was able to install a Pentax K mount to the lens, with excellent results.
I've just taken delivery of a copy of the original Nikon mount for the Tair11 (from Liithuania via Etsy) and looking forward to using it. It achieves infinity focus no problem, but as it was behaving itself with the K mount I didn't really have any worries about that.
The Nikon F mount arrived and fitted fine, with good results.
Very nice video, Simon. Have you tried the Aus Jena (Zeiss) 135 mm 2.8? What about the Jupiter 11 135 mm f4 (M39)?
I would really love to hear and see Jupiter 11 also on this list. Why not? Anyone can commend that?
it would be nice, since you now have the required tools, testing the lens you are reviewing for radioactivity.
also I'm really enjoying your videos, it could be rather useful if you create timestamps chapter for different section of the video :)
Thank you. Good idea, I’ll do the timestamps.
In both examples I actually liked the color straight from the camera more
Comparision with MC APO telezenitar-m 135/2.8?
Indeed an excellent lens.
2:52 "I don't feel i need to..." tell you the differences between these 2 Super takumars...
14:50 are these all "great" and are they in your preferred order? The "Plus" is kind of vague...
At 2:44 is that a Pentax with this lens (tair) on it? Also, any idea how it is to focus the Pentax DSLRs with older K mount lenses - do they offer a good or specialized focusing screen? Thanks!
Yes, that's a K-1. It was a good value way into full frame with vintage lenses when I got it. It has a great SLR viewfinder (light and bright), some manual focus support through "focus confirmation"...that I don't use. More useful to me is using the rear screen to zoom into a subject and focus on the enlarged subject. However, I tend to prefer the kinds of focus assistance provided on mirrorless cameras.
The old silver version looks sooooo like the Jupiter 11 (135/4): any idea if they are "related"?
They are related in that they were both produced around the same time at the same factory (KMZ), so the barrel construction and materials were probably similar - although optically they are not the same. The Jupiter 11 is a Sonnar copy, whilst the Tair has a slightly more 'native' design whilst still having the 4 elements in 3 groups.
If you look at the optical design of hte two lenses, they are completely different.
The Tair has a front group of two lenses, then a central lens and a rear lens, while the Jupiter has one front lens, a big central group of two lenses and a rear lens.
The Jupiter is a late 40s copy of the CZJ Sonnar, the Tair is a Russian GOI patent of 1951.
Official resolution:
Tair 11A 39/32/26 lines/mm (0/10/20 mm)
Jupiter 34/19 (center / edge)
A "MC" version (latin "MS", which translates to multicoating) of Tair-11A was prepared to be released on the market, but never mass produced.
Konica 135 f3.2 is the best in my collection. Beats 135 2.5 6blade taku
Amazing lens!
Funny how you say Tair like in ear. I pronounce it like in air. I think the 11 version has different coatings from the 11a. I have no problem getting sharp images wide op with it. There is one thing one should know about the 11. The m39 mount is not the Leica m39 mount (even though the thread is the same). It has a longer flange focal distance almost as long as m42 but 0.26 mm shorter. 45.2mm vs 45.46mm. This means that if you adapt it to m42. You will not reach infinity. Not very problematic if you get it for the bokeh, but still. On mirrorless mounts this can be solved by using a m39 ltm adapter plus a 16.4mm extension ring (you can find these in extension tube sets made for Fed/Zorki available on eBay mostly from Russia and Ukraine).
Can't believe the sigma(tel) 135 1.8 didn't make the list of "classics" it's the lens pentax based the design for the 135 super takumar on.
Thanks for stoking my vintage lens addiction ...I'm relapsing :)
Apologies - at least it's a relatively safe addiction!
15:10 As a person who has been a traveler through this page a lot of times, may I ask: "That was two years back. Did anything change your mind n between and Did You Ever Buy Tair 11A?".
Hi Sam, no I didn't buy a Tair 11A! Really liked the lens I borrowed, but my curiosity was satisfied. I'd rather buy that Samyang 135mm f2 you love!
@@Simonsutak I mentioned somewhere else here too, and as an owner of Samyang, I highly recommend it to you. You will not regret only being careful of handling that lens, coz it is THAT sharp! :)
Appreciated your rapid reply and have a wonderful time.
What is it a copy of ?
The weakness of this lens is the double ring system (aperture lock). It's clearly not made to follow moving subjects.
10:12 Saliva all over me, anytime I look at this! What a mouth-watering list...
How much sir
Well, yesterday a Ukraine ebay seller had a mint copy. With the usual extras. Western Ukraine is still running, and I just hope the aperature blades don't get messed up in shipping. How could I resist with free shipping at $230.? And I have that Pentacon...
Congratulations! It's should be fine - it's a solid lens. And in the very unlikely event the blades do get messed up, it'll probably be like the one I repaired easily, just pushing a couple of blades back into place.
The tair has nice rendering but not ergonomic to use - the pentacon/meyeroptik is far better in this regard- also vis a vs build quality and variiance - blades getting stuck - infnity focus etc. I have the takumar m42 2.5 version which also has its own specific optics. I also had the jupiter 37a - smaller with 3.5 aperture but wonderful color & optics - as well as the zess jena (export quality for exakta - great color & optics with better mfd) I have loads of earlier german & some no name japanese lenses with 10+ blades - it was qute common to have 10+ bades with preset. The 135 during the film days was a very common focal length. Personally 20 blades is overkill - anything above 10 slightly stepped can produce some very nice bokeh. I did not keep the tair
Interesting, many thanks. As I said in the video, having borrowed and returned the Tair I didn't see the need to buy one!
We can send you lenses to review?
The more exotic the better!
Is your dog demanding modeling fees now?
LOL. Yes, she's just too expensive. I'm having to find "other models" now.
Yes I know and what I ask is not an orange-to-orange comparison but compare to Takumar 200mm 18 blades, which one do you prefer, in terms of close-down bokeh?
And being on the subject of generous number of the blades, do you know which was the lens with those magnificent blades in the beginning of every olden age James Bond's movie?! 🥸🧿🧿🪒
I am curious to know if anyone knows better. blades