I still love Karl's aggressive and in your face gameplay the most. He's so greedy yet creates so much space and pressure on the map, plus he spams chatwheels. So annoying to play against.
problem with Karl is he's like Nine. He mostly struggles against top midlaners while using conventional mid heroes with mobility like storm ember void spirits etc. He's very good on right clicking mids like Lina/SF. Also a good batrider/doom player. Also a great qop/lesh player. He's not as cheesy as Nine. I just think he needs to work on the spirit heroes bc he struggles with that in the pro scene. That's the edge yopaj has on him. Yopaj can play anything.
The thing with Nine (at least that’s how I view it) is that he truly excels when he’s on “cheese” picks. I’m not saying he’s incapable of playing conventional mids well but there seems to be a stigma over the type of heroes he plays and because of that I don’t think he’s traditionally being looked at by other mids as someone they can look to when it comes to comparing play styles/heroes.
a lot may say that quinn beats most of these players on lane but names them as best mid laners, first is the professional respectfulness that quinn shows, and the second is dota has changed over the past few years, from days of sumail. In sumail golden days (2015-2017) mid lane in comps was more like pubs. It was more about exploiting the lane mechanics, outplaying the enemy mid laner, and be the strongest hero on the map for 20 minutes. But with changes to the game with patches and also the new play style of likes of topson and abed which was superior to the old school midlane, it is not anymore about just laning. Example is in ti10 topson lost mid against quinn both games but then had more impact later on.
Exactly my thoughts too about sumail and nisha and his list on midlaners too; nts, abed, gpk, karl, yopaj yeah these are players that are interesting to watch
I've seen abed play a lot in top pubs I've never seen him lose he just stomps everyone in mid I've been seeing him a lot using kunkka while destroying Puck and spirits
yes sir, i feel like the team still has confidence issues. when they get their chemistry right and confidence playing in div1 they will all excel. especially yuragi - think he's probably their best asset
@@Averymindset bro he is playing from Indonesia while all the other teams are boot camping in China and they have like 5-10 Ms whole nTs has 60+ms you can't possibly say he is in a bad form.
@@mcmorales750 torontotokyo is not a solo player , he may not be the best midlaner , but he certainly is the best midlaner for ts. I also at first thought he got carried , but when I watched him closely I was amazed how many plays he was enabling and how good his map awareness and macro are.
I dont know bout my boi yopaj. But i know this one for sure. He always lost the midlane against sumail. All of he named is better than him. But quin is not bad. Just not the same level as them.
@@matthewmateo6248 I think one of the casters compared Yopaj to Topson as a mid player who doesn't always win lane but always carries the mid game hard.
He's good but not in top 8 for me. He rarely dominates a lane or good at space making. But he is really good at setting a team fight, that's his strength i guess.
Sumail could be the best mid player he is a one man army, the problem is his teammates has to adjust to his insane playstyle, it is very occasional that he adjust for the whole team.
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Nisha back to mid was the best thing secret could've done
yeah and it worked so well
YEAH sumail not pretty good for pos 2 now, idont know why, but when he play pos 1, he is literally another person
Facta
Facts
They should have do that long time ago. I knew they will swap role.
I still love Karl's aggressive and in your face gameplay the most. He's so greedy yet creates so much space and pressure on the map, plus he spams chatwheels. So annoying to play against.
problem with Karl is he's like Nine. He mostly struggles against top midlaners while using conventional mid heroes with mobility like storm ember void spirits etc. He's very good on right clicking mids like Lina/SF. Also a good batrider/doom player. Also a great qop/lesh player. He's not as cheesy as Nine. I just think he needs to work on the spirit heroes bc he struggles with that in the pro scene. That's the edge yopaj has on him. Yopaj can play anything.
RIP ENGLISH
@sukarma at least we got the point about what he said
@@sukarma1594 ok english teacher
@@sukarma1594 sorry englishs not my first language
He will suprise when sea topson return after he done his training arc.
Topson is done. His era is finished.
hahaha
Max Copium i see
@@NKeise Hater i see
@@zekejeager2451 i can see it too, but i wish him to comeback stronger with sea team 🤣🤣🤣
That's actually a pretty good list. I feel like Nine should be up there too though. He and Yopaj were crazy to watch in mid.
The thing with Nine (at least that’s how I view it) is that he truly excels when he’s on “cheese” picks.
I’m not saying he’s incapable of playing conventional mids well but there seems to be a stigma over the type of heroes he plays and because of that I don’t think he’s traditionally being looked at by other mids as someone they can look to when it comes to comparing play styles/heroes.
yopaj got carried by team and crushed by nine
@@et2226 i agree
@@felixjohn5866 carried by team? Are u blind?
Nine is cheesey picker.i love his pick and versatility.but i think he is not number 1 midlaner right now.
players always praise abed but somehow their coach only picks storm for him
He needs to leave eg and come back home , rtz and bulba are perpetual losers
Dont say it here he would read it
yes its so sad
truth
There’s a coach in EG?
SEA midlaners are the best nts, yopaj, karl, abed, topson
Topson 🤣
Topsea
Topson sea pride just completing his training arc 💪
so true heejin
@@gooddogreallygooddog6157 why you laughing? LUL
a lot may say that quinn beats most of these players on lane but names them as best mid laners, first is the professional respectfulness that quinn shows, and the second is dota has changed over the past few years, from days of sumail. In sumail golden days (2015-2017) mid lane in comps was more like pubs. It was more about exploiting the lane mechanics, outplaying the enemy mid laner, and be the strongest hero on the map for 20 minutes. But with changes to the game with patches and also the new play style of likes of topson and abed which was superior to the old school midlane, it is not anymore about just laning. Example is in ti10 topson lost mid against quinn both games but then had more impact later on.
Same for Toronto, he often loses mid but has more impact in midgame
Peenoise best mid laners in the world
Facts, boom so lucky to have pinoy player
@@kuzankuzma2721 yeah lucky boom also secured one of the god support
@@kuzankuzma2721 Pinoy players at boom so lucky to have world class offlaner, carry and coach to carry them.
@@midd121 lmaoo let's be honest, everyone know Boom win because Pinoy, imagine if boom full indo hahhahahahaha
@@midd121 butthurt your idol dremocel and mikoto went to div 2
I was ready to throw hands if he mentions limmp
I wannna like limmp but the guy has a knack for losing
Most mid named are SEA players, yet there are lack of respect the region as a whole.
So mostly Filipino Mid Laners. Proud Pinoy Here
Quinn beats Nine at mid everytime though.
Karl is very aggressive player since dota 1 I once watched his gameplay back in internet cafe damn this kid is so good using PUCK dota 1
Exactly my thoughts too about sumail and nisha and his list on midlaners too; nts, abed, gpk, karl, yopaj yeah these are players that are interesting to watch
I've seen abed play a lot in top pubs I've never seen him lose he just stomps everyone in mid I've been seeing him a lot using kunkka while destroying Puck and spirits
No miracle....SADGE
abed is really a good midlaner.
Hes right , abed and nothingto say is the top mid players
I watched a few chinese dpc matches and somnus been on a better form than nts rn
@@Ayop32 i prefer somnus than nts but nts is a good mid laner
@@nieltanalgo9715 somnus and abed can destroy nts
@@mcmorales750 nisha destroyed nts but not lgd thou 😂😂
i think in a few months or so BZM will be in the conversation too.
yes sir, i feel like the team still has confidence issues. when they get their chemistry right and confidence playing in div1 they will all excel. especially yuragi - think he's probably their best asset
BZM is trash
He needs more time but I can assure this boy have future
No one will talk about u if u aint winning a shit, its that simple
do esl stream here on ytube??
abed and nts are s tier
Abed lul
Nts is good but his form right now is kinda meh
@@Averymindset bro he is playing from Indonesia while all the other teams are boot camping in China and they have like 5-10 Ms whole nTs has 60+ms you can't possibly say he is in a bad form.
@@heavenly645 wait, he is in indonesia?
@@riellaezalore9655 yes, he is playing from home
I know this is gonna hurt but torontotokyo is not one of the best mid player today
connection of mira and collapse plus yatoro carrying so hard late game are the reason they won ti. torontotokyo is good but not one of the best
He is definitely trash
@@mcmorales750 collapse is like an anime character thats not the protagonist but stole the show, he’s next level
@@mcmorales750 torontotokyo is not a solo player , he may not be the best midlaner , but he certainly is the best midlaner for ts. I also at first thought he got carried , but when I watched him closely I was amazed how many plays he was enabling and how good his map awareness and macro are.
@@ktoto2853 well said. Those 5 are the best as a team. Replace even one and they might falter. Individually I think Nisha is the best midlaner.
NoOne anyone? tho his team rn isn't doing too good but I still believe he's one of the top midlaners out there.
noone still one of the kings but unfortunately you don't see him in Tier1 dota anymore.
He definitely used to be top 1 Mid player, but I still 100% agree he's top tier player
He is, I still miss his time in VP
CTY, king of the first 10 minutes
ABED MENTIONED 🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
Now Nisha No.1 🎉
Miracle isnt in the list
Get Abed n Skem in one team then even support player like Xepher will play good as carry.
He forgot my name tf
lol Quinn complementing Karl
Notice how quinn acknowledged all mid players he mentioned by describing them as "really, really good" except for yopaj and sumail.
I dont know bout my boi yopaj. But i know this one for sure. He always lost the midlane against sumail. All of he named is better than him. But quin is not bad. Just not the same level as them.
@@matthewmateo6248 I think one of the casters compared Yopaj to Topson as a mid player who doesn't always win lane but always carries the mid game hard.
@@bernardsuits yopaj is the real carry of boom tbh that man always mvp most of the games
1 year letter and quinn is the best
karl is aggressive and greedy midlaner (greedy in terms of farming but in a good way)
there is some good midlaner like ccnc said and there is a another level named Miracle-
Dude stop it miracle is overrated
Sadge
miracLUL is shit now
dude they lost 2-0 dpc match and miracle invoker was stomped. lmao
Limmp too
Mid monsters imo
Ti1: Dendi
Ti2: Dendi
Ti3: Dendi
Ti4: Singsing
Ti5: Sumail
Ti6: Blink
Ti7: Miracle
Ti8: Somnus
Ti9: Topson
Ti10: TorontoTokyo
Ti1 dendi mid? Lul
@@sugab27 dendi best mid still 0 23 streak(just unlucky i guess)
Ti10 nothingtosay
TI11: Yopaj
@@joemercabayao5829 agreed with this, almost everyone got dominated by nts on midlane
Top mid laners : Quinn Quinccy , CCNC
3 pinoys ❤️
Maybe/Somnus one of the best ever for me.
He and Cty are the only mid laners that can go toe to toe with prime SumaiL during EG's 2015 run
For me emo is definitely the best midlaner, someone who saw his gameplays can agree w me
Ahhh… yes… the self proclaimed “god of dota 2” who got sent to China’s Division 2.
He's got destroyed by nisha on last few TI
how about you ask him his experience in SEA server
end of miracle
No one remember ddz?
One word. Topson
No, actually one word. Miracle
BatChest
Man why u dont mention Paparazi im sure he is one of the best midlaners to exist right now.
he's carry, but he's kinda washed now. cant win tourneys anymore, unlike before with VG
He aint mid anymore but he was so fucking good midlaner back in the days
Agree, the guy won solo 1v1s with ease
hasnt been to australia and seen buzzkin :)
where eternal envy eesama.......
you forgot topson? really bro
I also think nisha mid is great
Paparazzi No more
no torontotokyo?
He's good but not in top 8 for me. He rarely dominates a lane or good at space making. But he is really good at setting a team fight, that's his strength i guess.
The war between Russia and Ukraine has screwed up TS it will not the the same for them anymore
Topson fans will say topson is the best mid laner because he won two aegis.
@@ices_fires tokyo is good but not the best midlaner for me. mira is the big brain of TS plus magnus pick are the reason they won ti
@@ices_fires NTS said that TT is top 5 mid at TI10 eventhough he is not strong laner
in simple words pinoy best midlaners
Parah iyedeh gk dimasukin list
He forgot to say that they're all bellow Chadson
GPK OMEGALUL
Lol,even Nothingtosay said that GPK was top 3 oponent at TI10
NTS is the best midlaner.
Sumail could be the best mid player he is a one man army, the problem is his teammates has to adjust to his insane playstyle, it is very occasional that he adjust for the whole team.
He always loses to miracle in mid so I don’t think he could be the best .
@@pepingrillin3995 nah
nah he's not the sumail back in 15-18 midlaner,, nisha is better than sumail mid
@@pepingrillin3995 Lol sumail stomp miracle in Mid.
Ain’t gonna work in this era so many players can beat sumail in mid nowadays truth hurts
Wer Topson? Okayeg
The truth is topson the best midlaner, he can pick all heroes, no one like him
never see topson qop doom strom etc those meta heroes last patch
@@Mr66Farhan just search on TH-cam topson play the heroes u mention it, u will find it
@@kuzankuzma2721 why dont u search it and prove u wrong instead
@@Mr66Farhan no, u.
@@kuzankuzma2721 u cant prove it then u talk?
LOL WHEN HE FLAMED KARL NO BRAIN IN PUBS BEFORE TI AFTER HE LOST TO HIM IN MAJOR AND TI NOW HE SAID KARL GOOD LOL
We all saw how yopaj stomped every mid players in dubai,
he only watches good laners lmfao.
Just trade Abed to Karl and we're good to go 😂😂
Agree. Abed, kuku, gabbi they're fun to watch
N/A and S/A regions are too weak man. Hahahah
Hahahah na and sa people go outside and have lives ahhahahahahah they aren’t good at a vidoe game ahhaahahah
At least they have beautiful women s tier.. and rich country
@@spideken123 ya na richest and sa best women. Na go to clubs with their money instead of playing games all day and sa is smashing their women instead of playing games and this nerd is making fun of na and sa laughing at them lol so funny to me
Depressed kid ??