James Jones debunks Mahomes’ GOAT case, Ravens lose, Deebo trolls Lions & Brock Purdy an elite QB?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 มิ.ย. 2024
- Super Bowl Champion James Jones joins Keyshawn Johnson on the All Facts No Brakes podcast to discuss the latest in the NFL including the Kansas City Chiefs win over the Baltimore Ravens in the AFC Championship Game and the San Francisco 49ers comeback win over the Detroit Lions in the NFC Championship Game. James debunks the Patrick Mahomes GOAT case, reacts to the media’s reaction to Lamar Jackson’s loss, reacts to Deebo Samuel trolling Lions DB CJ Gardner-Johnson and answers if Brock Purdy an elite QB.
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James Jones debunks Mahomes’ GOAT case, Ravens lose, Deebo trolls Lions & Brock Purdy an elite QB?
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Is Mahomes the GOAT?
No, gotta play longer.
he’s not there yet but he’s top 10 right now
No one of the goats Brady beat him, he lost so
yes
dog.. your son needs communication classes
Give Brock his respect. The man has literally climbed up from the bottom. He's earning his flowers the hard way.
Mate Jimmy G took this same team to the Super Bowl 4 years ago.
@@gage8391not the same team. Mainly not the same defense. We fans bro we know lol
Jimmy also threw the ball 8 times in a playoff game! Purdy threw almost 40 in 1!
@@gage8391that was an elite D. This is an elite offense. Not the same bro.
@@gage8391plus, Jimmy G. only passed the ball 8 times in the NFC Championship game. 😅🤣
Greatest player the Chiefs ever fielded had his career cut short. RIP Derrick Thomas. #SB584DT58
Baltimore was the huge favorite..super stacked team…every media person said so..and had reason to based on what Ravens did all season..ravens was mopping all the good teams this year…all of the sudden now that chiefs won, the media wants to act like they didn’t have that stance
To be fair, Ravens could (should?) have won. They simply self destructed with all those penalties. That loss is all on Harbaugh coaching an ill-disciplined team.
@@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb
But Ravens has been lacking "discipline" for years. As dallas- rams- eagles- because THIER stragedies to win games is to purposely 'hurt certain players AND brag about it at same time.
Go NINERs!! 🏆💥💥
Where did u get huge favorite?😂they were a field goal favorite
He didnt say las vegas. He said the media had written the chiefs off
No it's on "mvp" Lamar. If Brock had such a bad game EVERY hater would be after him.@@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb
Great point Keyshawn and James on Lamar not being himself. That is why it was awesome to hear Mike Vick advised CJ Stroud to always be himself.
I just love the segment at the end with you and your son! That's a special moment right there, man, and I'm glad we got to see it.
KEY WORKING AS USUAL - WE SEE U!
All these qbs that yall are saying better than Brock Purdy are home crying right now.
Yeah tey were just saying names. Did Goff scramble and bail out his team? Did Love, who is a 4 year VET. Dak...Are you serious. Brock beat every single playoff team in the NFC this year. Clown show I tell you.
Brock and the Niners came back from 17… Lamar couldn’t even come back from 7… FACTS!
@@byronsmith3152 🎯
@@byronsmith3152it's unreal at this point. I just started laughing about it after watching some of his highlights hanging in the pocket - taking huge hits and deliver dimes 😂😂
Most egregious mention is Dak. Have they not seen enough to know Dak can't get it done in the playoffs. Dude shrinks in the biggest games and pads his stats on garbage team. If you need to beat a trash team for sure, Dak is your guy.
Dead wrong narratives about Mahomes not having awful plays in the playoffs - especially in the Super Bowl loss. Also, Brady’s first three super bowls weren’t just about the defense. The second one was a shoot out - go ask Tedy Bruschi, the defense couldn’t stop Carolina in the second half.
Hoodie Jones!!! man this bout to be the best podcast out!! he is the most unbiased OUT!!! He stay putting Shady in his place!! then Shady always go off pouting, saying he's not saying anything anymore
Facts, key word "unbiased"
All day
He's definitely biased because he was rooting for his Packers to beat the 49ers
he definitely biased, just look at how he act when he talk anything niners. Bro be hating cause they beat both his cowboys and packers😂
@@Pistons2024 he was talking about key
Brock Purdy
Why does he receive all this 'hate' from NFL Analysts and even
some current players?
1) He's been called a 'System Quarterback'
2) He's been called a 'Game Manager'
Because he distributes the football to skilled players at the right
time and at other times - he's criticized.
I would like to suggest to these people that are saying all of these
negative things about Purdy - maybe reconsider.
The purpose of having Coaches, including Offensive Coordinators
and Head Coaches is to come up with a game plan against an
opponent. A Game Plan is to help the team win the game.
In the game plan, the QB is to distribute the ball to the said skilled
players during the game to the benefit of the team he is representing.
When things work out, then WONDERFUL!
In the game plan, there might be an option where the QB would run
the ball at certain times. Normally when Skilled Players A and B
are not in a position to receive the football, and the pass rush is pressing
the QB - he could run the ball and that would be an option. This would
be an ideal time to run the ball. If this is not needed, then that's better.
To be MVP doesn't necessarily mean 'Best Athlete' or 'Most Spectacular
Athlete', but to help the team WIN games. In Basketball a Point Guard
distributes the ball to Skilled Players, especially at the RIGHT TIME.
To be MVP means that the person who is considered to be a candidate for
that award is actually helping his team win; and using the TALENT that
is available. This is COMMON SENSE.
That former NFL QB who played for the Carolina Panthers was indeed an
exceptional athlete, and in one year was able to help bring his team to
the Superbowl, howbeit, in a losing cause.
That same QB was very inconsistent throughout his career. One year, he
was playing at 'Top Level' - only for the next year to play at 'Bottom Level'.
He's the one that used the word, 'Game Manager'.
In Super Bowl XLI, RB Dominic Rhodes gained 113 yards rushing, and his
fellow RB Joseph Addai gained 77 yards rushing, plus he caught 10 passes
for another 66 yards for the Colts in winning the Super Bowl.
The MVP of the game was QB Peyton Manning who distributed the ball to
the skilled players mentioned. One of the RBs mentioned that he was glad
that Manning "...didn't try to do it ALL by HIMSELF..."
If a QB is passing the ball to the skilled player or handing the ball to the
skilled player at the right times, then he is doing well. There may not be
anything 'SPECTACULAR' about it, but the team wins the game.
Brock Purdy doesn't have the AMAZING ATHLETIC SKILLS as some
other QBs, but he's able to move around in the pocket, when necessary,
and is actually quite successful.
An MVP CANDIDATE doesn't have to try and FORCE something to happen
to make him an MVP CANDIDATE, but the MVP CANDIDATE is to
help his team win - and especially by using the SKILLED PLAYERS doing
what they do best.
Doesn't that make sense?
WAAAAY to much to read. But, it's because of clicks. Data shows that if you hate on Purdy, 49er fans show up, watch and comment. It's all about clicks aka $$ bro.
Wao this was very good man thanks you said it all
I hope purdy wins this game not only to silence all his hater’s it because I’m a fan of the niners
@@marilenny1245 I am also rooting for the 49ers and Purdy. I enjoy seeing some of these haters proved wrong 😊
Chat gpt to the fullest
Keyshawn johnson and James jones are a beast and they both won a superbowl
I hate this debate, but I love watching it. Half of Brady’s career was in a different era. I hate comparing different eras in a game that changes so much. The NBA has had maybe two true paradigm shifts. The NFL has had a bunch.
Mahomes will never get crushed the way guys could hit the QB back in the 2000s.
You can be a really different player when you are confident that you won’t get your ribs broken if you don’t throw it fast enough, because guys, for better or worse, can’t demolish the QB.
The Brady-rule, ironically, started the trend of protecting QBs more and more.
You can get more yards and completions because DBs and LBs can’t come wreck the WRs the way they once did.
Enjoy them both, because there may never be another player like Mahomes, and we may never get another guy who won like Brady did.
People tends to ignore that fact.
Jared Goff Top 10? C’mon man
Noodle arm Goff is not top 10. 😆😅
It’s actually Kobe vs LeBron. They try to erase Kobe from history when he has the talent and the rings. Brady didn’t put up in all this work to plant himself as the greatest to say someone that doesn’t have as many or close to it can be greater.
No tries to erase Kobe from history. If anything, he gets all the praise and adulation that he deserves, plus some.
The issue with Kobe is that his fans tries to build a case for him that isn't there, especially with Lebron. Lebron is the more accomplished player, but Kobe fans will still say Lebron isn't better
@@tbjb009 that’s cap. Bron not even the best from my generation (91-now). Tim Duncan and Kobe Bryant are the only two since, Jordan won his last, that have won the most championships along with having the stats. Duncan is 5/6 in chips & beat Bron 2/3 times. Kobe is 5/7 & almost did the same thing without Shaq that he did with him, 3 peat. Shaq is the 3rd greatest in my generation, so how is LeBron first or second in history when he’s not the best in mine.
Don’t bring up a scoring record because no one mentioned that record and Kareem had it for 40 years, now all of a sudden it matters? He’s definitely not better than Kareem so that already put him at 6 cus he not better than any of those guys I named in this text.
Great conversation
Keyshawn is a certified BCBrock Purdy hater. If Brock was black he'd be hyping him up and praising him like he does Lamar. Fact! 💯!!!!
That goes with a lot of these so called analyst
Key admits he's totally biased against late-draft picks. That he was #1 and Purdy is Mr Irrelevant, he simply can't admit that the experts don't know what they talk about wrt finding talent.
I disagree, I’m a niner fan and I’m black, huge Purdy supporter, I think both Keyshawn and Jones gave him props, especially Jones. I always knew Purdy wasn’t a system game watching every single niner game for the last 20 years, they just seein it now. Ik Purdys not a system qb like Jimmy G, but he also hasn’t been in the league long enough to be above other qbs, I disagree with Hurts being there too tho, he has even more talent offensively and doesn’t put up numbers. Trevor Lawrence either cause dude hasn’t done anything even tho I realize he has less talent on his team, he hasn’t shown he’s better or worst than Purdy so I kinda put ‘em in the same league. I think Purdys a great qb, but I think there’s only 4 elite guys in the nfl. Only Mahomes who’s in a league of his own, Burrow who’s probably the best passing qb in the nfl rn, and Lamar who’s a mid passing qb, but who’s rushing/scrambling is elite enough that it would translate well to any team and Josh Allen who’s great at rushing, strong accurate arm, but is a poor decision maker a lot of times, so he’s more hit or miss
True
You calling Keyshawn racist?
Good episode! I like James' commentary.
yes he knows ball
This is the podcast we didnt know we needed but we definitely needed!!!!
“Them guys can’t play dead in a cowboy movie” is a bar, Keyshawn.
I heard it years ago from bart scott. Def a bar
That bar has been passed down for the past 2 decades lol. It’s still 🔥
So basically what James Jones is saying is that MJs game is aesthetically pleasing and lebrons is not lol
I've always agreed with that. Jordan was a guy who dominated a game and you noticed everything he did. Lebron can dominate a game and you are shocked at his stat line after the game because you didn't even notice it.
And he would be correct.
The thing about Detroit and the Field Goals... those FG attempts were not guaranteed 3 points. If they kicked and missed... the conversation would now be, "They've proven to go for it on 4th down, but why change now?" Anyone can say those things on the 'Monday after'.
I remember in the 90s in the Regular Season. I don't remember the teams that were playing, but Chris Collinsworth was the Analyst and there was a '4th and short yardage' situation. The team attempted to go for it on 4th down but fell short. Collinsworth vehemently said, "You kick the Field Goal and take the three!" I believe it was the following Sunday with two different teams playing, and almost the same situation again. The team decided the field goal attempt... and missed. Collinsworth vehemently said, "All they had was "One" or "Two" Yard(s)... if you can't run for a yard for a 1st down!..." So, that is an example of 'Monday Morning Quarterbacking'... after the fact.
The Detroit coach believed in his team. He believed that they could do it. They did not do it. Again, the field goal attempts were in the 40+ category - and no guarantee of making the field goals... He said he does not regret going for it. With that said, I personally believe he should have gone for the touchdown at the end of the first half instead of trying the field goal. In both cases, it was a "3-Score" situation - but they would have had to succeed in making the touchdown. Enough said.
I'm with ya. If the ball wasn't dropped, it would have been the "right" play. I also agree that Campbell went for it on fourth to reinvigorate the receivers
SPEAK & Undisputed together I need this🥳
Just pausing this halfway through. You two dudes are on business with your perspective, Bravo,
I’m subscribing I love Keyshawn commentary on sports! Very fair and not bias ❤
Dog Brain Mentality
I agree never bet against Patt!! Great show 🎉🎉🎉
3:15 😂that picture is pretty funny
You keep talking about the o line in the superbowl he lost to brady. Well the o line was good enough to get them to the superbowl!!! He lost to a better team and brady!! Twice too
Correct, Brady and the Pats beat Mahomes and his team when they were fully healthy in the 2018 AFCCG, in a shoot out. Brady won again with the Bucs scoring in the 30s and Mahomes did not even score 10.
Bout time you got a channel Key! Your the best
These two together is special.
Love your channel
Love the show Key big fan of yours down in Texas will definitely continue to watch !!!!
Not top 10 but shredded at least 5 of those QB listed 😂
you guys are SPOT ON... i admire the both of you..not just for your opinions but also for your achievements.. btw ya both ROCKED...
These clowns really comparing Brock Purdy to Trent Dilfer & Brad Johnson. Unbelievable. Watch the film.
Great content keep it up!
I love James's takes. You 2 together going to do well.
I love that your son is part of your dream. Son, keep working on your dreams. Take full advantage of this opportunity. I expect to see you doing this years from now.
Love your play Auntie!❤
Have a look at Fran Tarkenton highlights. Tarkenton was doing Mahomes like things before Mahomes was a thought. Tarkenton finished his career with all the passing records. Tarkenton lost al his Super Bowls. That's why he isn't remembered. Bt no matter what anyone says, it takes a team to win the Super Bowl, not just a QB.
Also, Tarkenton played in an era when the QB could be blown up. Mahomes abuses they modern rules that the QB can't be touched. I thin even in Brady's early career the QB wasn't wearing a dress like they do today.
I personally get irritated at how Mahone swill go right up to the last second before he goes down to draw a flag. I think the NFL needs to change the rule. If the QB runs he is fair game. If the QB wants to "give himself up" he has to do it early, not the very last second so the defender can't stop himself.
Let's see how good Mahomes is after he gets clobbered the way Staubach when he ran and there is no penalty flag. Change the rule and you'll see Mahomes not be as dominant.
Great Show DDP
Idk what they smoking on. Never in my life has 4 been more than 7. 😂 That's just projection as well. Mahomes has only 2 rn.
How many QBs going to Carolina and winning with the current roster? Y’all acting like 25-30 QBs going to Carolina and winning 😂
They just looking for another reason to not give purdy credit.
Yes sir KJ and JJ
herbert/Dak/ Geoff over Brock lmao... Trevor ? lmao
I was thinking Hurts too lol. Trevor, Dak and Goff he is definitely better than. Lol
Nice intro to all facts no brakes.
James nailed the lebron-mike to mahomes-brady comparison
Keyshawn is the Kendrick Perkins of the NFL analysis. He talks way too much with his heart and not in fact
That's because both have agendas. Also why does Keyshawn keep getting show chances when most of his projects fail? Why not give a chance to Sherman that keeps it real, no agendas?
@@denk664what agenda??
@@princecheck11 the race based agenda. He can't be objective like other analysts. This comes from before this show. Everyone remembers his asinine takes on ESPN KJM.
@@denk664 what raced based patrick mahomes is black too wth u talking about? yall prejudice showing
@@princecheck11 who mentioned Mahomes? It has nothing to do with Mahomes. Mahomes is the undisputed best player, no one comes close. I'm saying that Keyshawn can't be objective most of the time because he always protects the brothers. His Jokic takes on KJM were terribly bad and he ended up with the pie in the face after seeing him sweep the Lakers and then win the chip. His bball takes are horrible tbf, you just need to check the comments of undisputed/KJM videos. Now Brock Purdy, he can't give him credit. He didn't have the same energy criticizing Lamar Jackson after another PO failure like he criticizes or doubts Purdy. And Lamar scrutiny and standards should be higher because hes supposedly the best player and soon MVP. Sherman criticizes fairly and without double standards. He doesn't care if it's black or white. He keeps it real according to football production and very rarely he's wrong.
I see ya Key 💪💪
GOAT is not affirmative action bro. Show me the hardware, PERIOD 😢
Good show
Saints fan here.I been working. Can't Guard Mike Unc Key..Salute 💯
Skip did my boy dirty lmao talking about undisputed presents
Key, keep shining MAN, I have respect for u on undisputed, u balance the SHOW OUT MAN NOT LIE, i listen to you man, and im OLDER THEN you bruh, with alot learned life lessons, bruh keep it going, when we around alot of positive people, were gonna keep that same energy, PEEP GAME, U BALANCE THE SHOW OUT
Here's the truth (IMO)
There's ELITE TALENT: Mahomes, Josh, Lamar, Staffard, Burrow, Stroud, Lawrence.
There's ELITE PRODUCTION: Mahomes, Josh, Lamar, Staffard, Burrow, Purdy, Stroud, Herbert.
There's ELITE COMBO: Mahomes, Josh.
TO HAVE: Dak & Geoff in the top 10 is insane!!! How the media keeps allowing TALENT to fail upwards, but HARDWORK gotta prove themselves. Bruh......How Keyshawn can utter the name Dak Prescott as a top10 QB (after MULTIPLE SEASONS OF COLLAPSES) is truly a horrible take.
I like the 70s color palette
5 players vs 22 players (aka starters) is not the same. Jordan is the GOAT.
THE GAME RULE CHANGES EFFECT THE ERA THE 🐐 PLAYS IN !
Yall on to something !
Bout time somebody said it... NICK WRIGHT SMOKING DOPE...😂😂😂
As a Niners fan, we are NOT saying Brock is elite. We are NOT putting him in any kind of GOAT debate. Let him win a few SBs, get a few more years in the league, then the conversations might be worth entertaining. James was right, Jimmy G was a game manager. Defense carried the team to the SB that year. When the team got behind, Jimmy G couldn't make the plays that Brock can. And the reason we have a problem with the term "game manager' as it relates to Brock Purdy is because we know why people are labeling him as that. He does just enough to win the game. No, Brock does that and MORE. He's the game changer that SF has been needing for a LONG time. Brock has earned the respect by BEATING some of those guys you were naming as top 10 in the league: Stafford, Dak, Jalen, Goff. Quit moving the goal posts on Brock Purdy when he's done what you've said he couldn't do.
Brock Purdy is in the unfortunate situation of being the last pick in a very flawed draft system and a lot of players, coaches, and experts feel that he shouldn't be there and I'm happy for him that he's confident enough to not allow that negativity affect him..
Detroit alley cats, it's time to eat ....your coach's knee caps 😂😂😂😂😂
Pretty sure James Jones said before the season the Chiefs wouldn't make the playoffs, said they were going to lose to the Chargers, Raiders, and Broncos... so I could care less what this man thinks about my Chiefs.
Everybody said it was Brady and that Bill Belichick Bill has more Super Bowl rings than Brady. Y’all forget the two won with the Giants.
30:52 I think that is an unfair challenge for a second-year player . That's how you know it's good when they have to put him in hypothetical situations that involved elite players with much more experience.
I had James joke on my fantasy team in 2012 and he was my biggest scorer
Something happened to smart coaching running the clock out for a win. Teams lose games a lot now because of not doing this.
This the karma for automatically putting the ravens in the Super Bowl and crowning them champs before the the playoffs even started. As a 9er fan I never look ahead past my opponent in front.
Taysom plays QB, TE, WR, and running back. I bet if you need a edge rusher he might could do that too.
I like how they say can Brock go to Carolina and turn them around then name a bunch of QBs that aren't even good or winning on their current teams lol.
30:40 Dak? DAK?? DAAAAAAAK??????
Keyshawn and JJ is honestly the next duo for me
fun fact: Terry Bradshaw said he was 7 yrs old when he decided he would be a pro football player, he was a lil hawkeye fan...drafted first in the first round...spent his entire career wearing Hawkeye colors. Did God give the boy a dream or what? Not cliche for TB12(the original) to say ''Livin the dream". I love Lamar I would love to see him force the NFL to make the game old school bangin football.
I love the double standard. I do appreciate when they give breaks and passes for QBs like Lamar and Mahomes. They refuse to give to Brock.
I will be happy when a NFL Commissioner comes along and create a MVP award for the best defense in the season, MVP award for best offense in a season, MVP award for best defensive player in the season, best running back in the season etc..the way the NFL is setup now only the quarterback and the Coach get the accolades not very fair
How can they even mention Dak, trevor, Herbert in same level as Brock. If Brock win SB, he is only behind Patrick, Rodger, Stafford and ahead Hurts, Burrow, Lamar, Josh, jared.
Crazy 90% of analysts and people picked Ravens to win guess this dude doesn't understand what an underdog is!
James Jones is the truest analyst
Yup especially with the you don’t need the same number of rings. It;s not a contentious take at all. Right? Right.Brady does not get his dues because his biggest asset were his intangibles not his athleticism.
People say Jim Browns the best RB of all time cause they heard someone say it.. 98% of the people saying hes the best, never even seen the dude play.
Just compare his YPC to NFL history, not to mention his YPG.
@@chadh.johnson3550 that isn't my point
@@GetnBrains Please forgive my ignorance. What was it then?
@@chadh.johnson3550 point is, i dont think people should be able to claim best player on someone theyve personally never seen. Analytics are awesome but they DO NOT tell the entire story and sometimes doesnt even get close 2 telling the entire story. Doesn’t factor is team, cosches, coaching changes etc. much the same reason Wilt Chamberlin isnt considered the best basketball player.. different time, different game 10000%
Jones speaking facts!
Them guys played in the NFC, if it was the AFC, you gotta say Ray Lewis and/or Ed Reed
"noting Mahomes can do to pass Brady?" .. really hope that's not what he meant lol
The greatest player Colin ever seen lost to an old Tom Brady in the AFC Championship and the SuperBowl
Finally!!! Glad you got your own podcast. Been a fan since your days at ESPN 710.
Get that boy a laptop...!
If you judge the quarterback situation differently Patrick Mahomes statistically has already surpassed Tom Brady..
I hate to say this but the Detroit Lions organization and the NFLPA should demand a investigation into this Detroit Lions loss these decisions that were made did not make any top coaching sense the Coach lost this game for his players
Hoodie Keys and JJ!!!!!!
So, y'all naming Top 10 QB's that ain't been to no championships? Have not won a championship? Not going to the SB? Brock Purdy, 1 1/2 season starting. Back to Back NFC Championship. Now going to the SB... But he's not your Top 10? FOH !!! buncha clowns 🤡 🤡
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Bc he is MID AF. They literally have a top 3 TE, top 1 RB and the amazing Deebo. Your mom could play QB for them
Why doesn’t John Harbaugh get that same smoke? The offensive game plan was terrible. Look at the games
Mahomes is the pending GOAT
The difference between Allen and Jackson is simple though, Allen can play out of his mind and still lose, Jackson actually chokes. People dont talk about 13 seconds because Allen played bad, he played perfectly and still lost. Jackson doesnt do that.
Watsup Keyshawn, can you ask your old man why Dallas dont try Micha Parsons at running back?
Peace 💯
No one has ever been better than Mahomes. Since he stepped on the field anyone with eyeballs could see he is the GOAT. Football is a team sport, wins and losses arent always the best measure. Tom Brady got 7 Superbowls by throwing one yard screens to james white and having a world class Defense.
All Mahomes did was throw to a single covered Kelce when they needed it . He didnt do anything to singlehandily win the game or takeover . Baltimore truly beat themselves.
GREAT POINT Key about Peyton Manning💪🏾✊🏿
Tom Brady put Patrick on the couch twice, the first was the AFC championship and the Super Bowl while at Tampa Bay
the first one he won because a guy lined up offsides he threw a pick on that and the super bowl we were missing 4 starting lineman
@@benjiwilson5646mahomes get calls all the time doesn’t make a difference
You mean the defense? The chiefs dropped three TD passes that same game. Brady had nothing to do with that. Brady don't step on the field against Mahomes they are both on offense. Watch football. You seem confused
@PJoness So I guess Eli Manning is better than Brady since he sent him home sulking 2x in the Super Bowl.
@@bernyourhart And Spags was the DC against Bill
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James slept on as a analyst… u need to make him a regular after gms
Yeah he's great at it, he deserves to be on a better show than Speak.