See videos: New research expands on J Atwill's discovery that the story of Jesus is a parody of Emperor' Titus' victories. Paul the Apostle: Liar and Conman | James Valliant, Rabbi Tovia Singer
This is an amazing work. Unfortunately we live in a world where people prefer made up lies in place of truth even when presented with fact. May your passion continue to multiply you in all your heart desires
If your research method is applied to ancient mosques in Indonesia before repairing the Qibla direction to Makkah, of course you can almost certainly conclude your research that the Kaaba is located in Mozambique or Tanzania.
What's even more interesting about this event, outside of the battle of Islam within is the foundation of Islam came at a very very interesting time when the western catholic church had a schism with the eastern orthodox church. The eastern orthodox churches were in accordance with the original teachings of Jesus and the bible where as Rome was already HIGHLY paganized in its observance of Christianity, if you can even call it christianity anymore. If you look at the map of what Islam came to control pre 1492 it literally covered everywhere that Catholicism did not. Can this all be a coincidence? When you start digging into the name of Allah and the symbology used in the cycle moon and star it starts to get crazy. I practiced Islam faithfully for 3 years and they are very dedicated to Maryiam as being the true intercessor of God rather than Jesus. Basically, the way the Qu'ran tells it that Maryiam was so faithful in her obedience of God and she begged everyday to be a part of the 'church', to make a difference and that's why God chose her to give her Jesus, to be a prophet and key member of the church who Maryiam could have true influence through. That's actually what sold me on Islam was the fact that it seemed to tie up the loose ends of Christianity so well or so I thought at the time. Now I'm glad to have had that experience and can understand ALL of it so much deeper. I can see the deception so much better. I leave you with this one bite. Mohammed was married to a woman named Khadija before he became all world famous. Her cousin was Waraquah. She was a Roman Catholic Meccan before Islam took over the east.
What kind of Muslim were you for 3 yrs? There will be none to intercede nor help u - other than Allah on the day of judgment its in God's word in the Quran
@@R-rr1 man u'r so ignorant i swear. God with a capital G in arabic is Allah. there is no god but God/Allah(in arabic). + all the "actual evidence'' ur talking about has been totally demolished and refuted. ull be shocked when u know that dan gibson is the one lying to u :)
When you look at the stories from The Bible and compare them to The Sirat Rasul Allah = The biography of Muhammed -> you can notice that they are taken about from same places, and that place is not The mondern Mecca because -> it is the town we are calling The Petra nowaday, and then everyting fits together in these stories - very well.
@@خالدبنالوليد-ك8ع Here’s just one in the video link below the info 👍 Coins that couldn’t have been minted if the Abbasid Mohammad of Islam was real. They show that Islam and the Abbasid Mohammad of Islam (Surah 33:40) didn’t exist in the 7th Century. 1. The earliest Arab coins were minted in 641 in the Persian fashion with the Bismallah (In the name of the Gracious and Merciful God). Soon after other coins with Abdullah (Servant of God) appeared. When this title used singularly on a coin by Arab anti-Trinitarian Christians, it referred to Christ. When combined with a name for example; ‘Abd Allah ibn al Zubayr’ it was a ‘nom de guerre’. 2. The earliest coins with Mohammad (Praised/Blessed One referring to Christ) are minted in the style of Persian coins shortly after the fall of the Sasanian Empire. Their coins typically have the ruler depicted in the Persian style but with four *crescent moons around the ring, with Muhammad (Christ) written on the outside. The three earliest examples found by archaeologists were minted in Sirjan (Iran) in 659, in Zaranj (Afghanistan) in 661, and in Ray (modern day Tehran in Iran). 3. Circa the time of **Abdul al Malik (Reign 685-705); A. In Beisan in Palestine a copper Christian coin which has the Christian Fish and Mohammad (Christ) on it. B. In 1947 a find of a rectangular copper coin in Palestine caused quite a stir. On the front it depicts a Christian Ruler holding a long cross, on the back there is a large M with a Christian Cross above it, and below the M the word Mohammad (Christ). If the ***Mohammad of Islam had been a real figure these coins could never have been produced. Indeed, it is now (outside the Muslim/Islamic World) accepted by Islamic scholars he never existed. *By 682-683 the crescent moons had been replaced by Christian Crosses. **Both Abdul al Malik and his brother were followers of the Christian Anti-Trinitarian sect and had Christian symbols on their coins, for example Malik’s brother had crosses etc. ***Abdul al Malik sent a directive throughout his kingdom that the term ‘Mohammad’ was to be used to refer to Christ th-cam.com/video/nQLfGfciqZw/w-d-xo.html
I learned most of this about 30 Years ago. When studied for my Confirmation. It's sad to see that the lies are still are more prevelant in the whole world.
Someone mentioned in his video that Dan Gibson is not a PHD holder. I say..may Allah give him peace and courage to accep the theory of Dan Gibson. I truly believe Petra is that Holi Place and not Mecca
آية: 37 رَّبَّنَآ إِنِّيٓ أَسۡكَنتُ مِن ذُرِّيَّتِي بِوَادٍ غَيۡرِ ذِي زَرۡعٍ عِندَ بَيۡتِكَ ٱلۡمُحَرَّمِ رَبَّنَا لِيُقِيمُواْ ٱلصَّلَوٰةَ فَٱجۡعَلۡ أَفۡـِٔدَةٗ مِّنَ ٱلنَّاسِ تَهۡوِيٓ إِلَيۡهِمۡ وَٱرۡزُقۡهُم مِّنَ ٱلثَّمَرَٰتِ لَعَلَّهُمۡ يَشۡكُرُونَ 37. "O our Lord! I have made some of my offspring to dwell in an uncultivable valley by Your Sacred House (the Ka‘bah at Makkah) in order, O our Lord, that they may perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât). So fill some hearts among men with love towards them, and (O Allâh) provide them with fruits so that they may give thanks.[1]
98:6- Indeed those who disbelieve from the People of the Book and the polytheists will be in the Fire of Hell to stay there forever. They are the worst of all beings.
Pray,, May God Bless you. Huaisheng Mosque in china , The Huaisheng Mosque (Chinese: 广州怀圣寺; also known as the Lighthouse Mosque and the Great Mosque of Canton) is the main mosque of Guangzhou. Rebuilt many times over its history, it is traditionally thought to have been originally built over 1,300 years ago, which would make it one of the oldest mosques in the world.
Persians have traded with China long before Islam arrived. They brought with them Zoroastrianism, Manichaeism and Nestorian Christianity. However, Taoism and Buddhism were the main religion in China in the Tang dynasty. Islam came slightly later. The Abbasid caliphate fought against the Tang dynasty in Central Asia and that defined their border. In late Tang dynasty, massive rebellions broke out. Huang Chao, led the rebellion army into Guangzhou and massacred most of the Arabs and Persians there. Islam flourished again in the coastal cities in south China during the Mongolian empire.
But the Quran claims to be God’s message, and God’s message is protected from alteration, untampered. If it is true that Abbasid dynasty had altered the Quran, that means it is a book written by human, not the original message by God. The whole foundation of Islam is shaken. Muslims will not tolerate this and they would only deny it as heresy and they would want jihad and Dan Gibson dead.
There is story in Thabary history book which told Abraham, Hajar, and Ismail moved to 'Mecca' : According to .. . Mujahid and other scholars: When God pointed out to Abraham the place o f the House and told him how to build the sanctuary, he set out to do the job and Gabriel went with him. It was said that whenever he passed a town he would ask, “Is this the town which Gods command meant, O Gabriel?” And Gabriel would say: “Pass it by.” At last they reached Mecca, which at that time was nothing but acacia trees, mimosa, and thorn trees, and there was a people called AMALEKITES outside Mecca and its surroundings. The HOUSE (Bayt/Kabah) at that time was but a HILL of RED CLAY. Abraham said to Gabriel, “Was it here that I was ordered to leave them?” Gabriel said, “Yes.” Abraham directed Hagar and Ishmael to go to AL-HIJR and settled them down there. He commanded Hagar, the mother of Ishmael, to find shelter there. Then he said, “My Lord, I have settled some of my posterity in an uncultivable valley near Your Holy House . . . that they may be thankful” (Quran 14:37). Then he journeyed back to his family in Syria, leaving the two o f them at the House. From that story we can see some points : 1. the place where they reach Mecca is where Amalekites tribe sorrounding Mecca (Petra?) see here bible-history.com/biblemaps/the-amalekites 2. the House (Bayt/Ka'bah) nothing at that time but still in HILL form with RED CLAY (Petra is called by Red Rose city) from this finding Abraham and Ishmael raised the Bayt/Ka'bah on the HILL. it is interesting that GREAT TEMPLE in Petra was built on the Hill about 20 meters high from road. 3. it was mentioned AL-HIJR, in English Hijr is stone/rock. Petra is greek name with the meaning is also stone/rock.
No reason for them to move south when they had prosperous egypt and trading mesapotamia in west, it is illogical for family to move south to desert in those days since many dangers like robbers murderes existed back then
@@skepticalorganism6716 I don't want to discuss whether the story is true or not, or Abraham is a real or fictional character. My intention is how the Holy Book and History Book describe the story. Qur'an not mention in detail the story, but Bible does. Hajar and Ishmail were sent away by Sarah, and because Hajar came from Egypt, so maybe Abraham would bring them back to Egypt, but God "order" to place them in somewhere called wilderness in Paran. To go to Egypt from Israel there is a well known road way through King's Highway and that road pass the Petra, this is more "logical" than Abraham sent his son and wife to Saudi Arabia which is about 1500 km by Camel 😆
@@anwardjunaedy5722 Paran (Faraan) is the oldest name for Hejaz, so of course, he is rightly came to the Valley of Becca (Makkah) And Ishmaelmis first born whom Abraham lay for sacrifice near the mountain of Mecca.
@@abdullahalrai WHAT ??? LOL ... Please learn Ptolemy's Geography boy, after that I will explain you about where is the true location of Paran and Sinai Mountain.
Honestly , This whole idea of Petra being the birthplace of Islam seems at odds with history, especially wten objectively studying archaeological and other historical materials: - Petra was abandoned due to earthquakes and fires resulting from them - The Nabateans moved their political center to Busra al Sham , Bostra, now in southern Syria, and this city became an important cutlural center, so one would expect any religious renewal movement to start there -The Petra Papyri are a cache of documents discovered in what was likely a burnt church in Petra , they are written in Greek by the local Arab Bisho, and are mainly legal documents and records dealing with issues such as marriage contracts, inheritance, disputes over land and property. These documents provide us a glimpse into that Period ,yet there is no indication that there were any religious renewal movements, or any sort of political change. -Petra at the time of the rise of Islam was part of the Byzantine empire, the Byzantines wanted to keep the region under their control as a buffer Zone to protect against raiding Nomads from Northern Arabia, as well as from Persian Sassanid invasions which had many times laid waste to many important cities, one would think that the rise of a new secessionist religious movement would be important to the Byzantine authorities and its local Arab vassals, yet there is no mention of such a movement in the regions controlled by the Byzantines in the Southern Levant, surely the last thing they would want to see is a local power pushing for independence both political and religious, Greek,Roman and Byzantine authorities always to crush such movements , be it Palmyra under Zenobia, Judea under the Hasmonians, Samaria under Julianus, The Arab Tanukh confederation of Mavia or any other local independence asserting powers, especially if such movements are claiming to be a new faith.
it may be not possible. but Petra could be the source of the inspiration for the story of Islam. we must consider the possibility that Muhammad himself never existed.
@@malayneum this is really a ridiculous argument there see archaeological, written and relics attributed to prophet muhammed and more so his contemporaries his companions all. Existed with their graves still existing.. and has graves.. Its a undisputed history
Hi Mr Gibson I pray you read my comment I was reading 2 Chronicles 6 and I read Solomon trying to establish a covenant between God and the Temple Solomon went on to say that even when the people face towards the direction of the temple during prayers in captivity, may the Lord hearken unto them This reminds me of the directions of the early mosques; they were facing Jerusalem Is there any connection between 2 chronicles 6 and early Islamic Qiblas? since islam is a hodgepodge of various religious writings especially the BIBLE
Watch them in order as they are not arranged proparly in their channel: 1 th-cam.com/video/1KPBKuCe9eI/w-d-xo.html 2 th-cam.com/video/WAZtrVMl4m0/w-d-xo.html 3 th-cam.com/video/Sb7BDhjAdBM/w-d-xo.html 4 th-cam.com/video/1vJa_-vd44w/w-d-xo.html 5 th-cam.com/video/IzfLGK7iXKk/w-d-xo.html Jesus th-cam.com/video/QPM8HIn4hWQ/w-d-xo.html
Greetings Mr. Dan, how can I communicate with you, I have information about a very old mosque, the qibla of this mosque is directed towards Petra until now, and this mosque is still entered by many worshipers and prayer is held there until today, and it is located in the city in which I was born and live
This is the old film, now made available free of charge. A sequel is being considered. Hopefully we can find enough funds to make the sequel, which would include the new research from the last 5 years, and also responses from academic as well as Islamic scholars.
@@DanGibsonFilms Are you considering returning to Petra with a team to look deeper for evidence of the Kaaba? I know COVID has made travel restrained. But it would be interesting to get you and some Jay Smith guys on the ground there.
Hi Dan Gibson. I watched the documentary 2 weeks ago. It was really nice job. I hope more to come. There is something on my mind. How would you explain the Hijra incident? If the real Kaaba is Petra, where is the place of migration as Medina?
@@bookworm3957 I am not sure I understand your question. In the traditional islamic account Mohammed migrated friom Mecca (in Saudi Arabia) to Medina. According to Gibson Mohammed migrated from Petra to Medina. Also Gibson claims that Petra at that time was called Mecca by the local Arab community. Gibson agrees with the location of the city of Medina, no change here...
@@hans471 Yes, you got it right. This is exactly the answer to my question. The place of migration is from the city of Petra to the city of Medina. Some places must have been overlooked while watching the documentary. Thanks!
@Siraj Haq He gives you logical arguments and you talk about the Trinity and Jesus. What do the Trinity and Jesus have to do here? Looks like you're trying to change the subject which is a very classic defense of someone refusing to see what's right in front of him.
In 706 AD there is a mosque in Israel. Israel it said. Israel is a place before Palestine Palestinians say there is nothing like Israel or the kingdom of Israel. The land belongs to Jews and Israelites.
This version omits the description of the dimensions of the old kaaba from early islamic sources. It also omits the comparison with the ruined structure in front of the Temple of Dushera in Petra whose measurements are in accord with the same islamic sources. Perhaps Dan is in the process of changing his mind based on newer archaeological findings in Petra, more than likely the huge platform area they found by satellite in 2016.
There is no and never existed a Kaaba in Petra. The Gibson’s Kaaba is only an old sacrificial altar. This structure is well identified by a French archeologist team, directed by François Renel, who work 20 years in Petra. Also, the Department of Antiquities of Jordan approved their studies. Gibson never show and will never show any paper of this studies. No archeologist approves Gibson’s hypothesis. Gibson base is finding on Al-Azraqi measurement of the Kaaba. But those don’t fit on the structure in Petra. So, Gibson try to trick people by showing an unclear image of his so-called Kaaba and stick the Al-Azraqi measurement on it. Not honest at all! But Gibson forgot that he said that Al-Azraqi destroyed the Kaaba ‘’to the ground’’ and also took off its foundation stones. So, nothing left of the Kaaba structure in Petra. But his so-called Kaaba in Petra has a remain of stones of 2.5m high! So, the Al-Azraqi’s report doesn’t fit with Gibson story. In Petra, the structure is a block full of stones that you can just walk on it. But the real Kaaba is made of 4 walls and you can enter in. Different structures!
@@roukayajannah5111 Francois Renel's studies do not disqualify the hypothesis. If it was there and was moved its destruction would be necessary at around the time the Quran was being solidified and the qublas were changed.
@@joshcryer Yes, you should compare Gibson’s measurement and archeologists’ measurement. Gibson in his video ‘’ A&I 4 Measuring Ka'ba’’ shows a very unclear satellite image of that structure, very little on the image, and put red lines without any scale saying his measurements and saying it’s a good fit! He thinks all are naïve and will believes him. Gibson said it’s the same measurement of Al-Azraki, (cubit to meter): It’s not a perfect rectangle: 14.63m x 10.6m x 14.17m x 9.1m In another video ‘’ A&I 3 The Ka'ba’’ at 6:50 Gibson says that this structure it’s a rebuilt version of the Kaaba. Again, he thinks all are naïve and will believe him. The French archeologist team directed by François Renel has presented architect plans of the structure identify as a sacrificial altar with a scale and descriptions. With the scale, you can measure it and see that it’s a perfect rectangle of about 14m x 17m. The measurements are not the same, so Gibson is debunked.
@@roukayajannah5111 I consider what Gibson proffers as a hypothesis, I want to see further archeological study, because all other evidence points to Petra. I don't think necessarily the alter is the site of the Kabba, if it was there, I don't understand why it would be off to the side anyway. As we know from the wall structure it is in a precarious spot there.
Can you please show a single masjid(in between Petra and Mecca) where Petra and Mecca are located at 180 angle, and that's masjid qibla is toward Petra. Your research shows that before the current navigation system, many mosques qiblas were not exactly towards Mecca
These people are stupid. Before the first mosque was made and before the revelation came down for them to face qibla when praying they would face Jerusalem to pray. First of all anyone with even a little intelligence can research and study for themselves and see that this Dan guy made a mistake in the first 5 mins of the video. He claimed Mecca to be a trading town, but there isn’t one place in the Muslim history we’re that claim was made. Anyone that even studied the history would have known that the people of Makkah use to travel with their goods in caravans to trading towns or routes and they would stay there until they traded all their goods and then they would return back to Makkah with their profits. So straight away in the first 5 mins he makes a mistake and continues to lie Upon that mistake. How can you even take anything this guy says to be reliable when he made a big mistake on something that’s so small and the information is accessible for anyone with their own brains and eyes to witness and read and understand. His been studying Middle East for 30 years seems like to me he wasted 30 years to push his own opinionated narrative even tho there is no where in the Islamic history point to what he even said remotely. Dan is not credible at all. How can someone that claims to study for 30 years get something so small and that which is common knowledge on anyone that even knows the history a little will even tell you he doesn’t know what his talking about.
Another big mistake he made that anyone that knows the history of Islam knows his wrong and to be honest this guy talks out his ass. How can you make two three big mistakes within the first 5 mins of your video and then claim to have studied for 30years. What type of stupid academic do you have to be to study for 30 years only to get the basic information completely wrong. He claimed Makkah was known as the mother of cities. No where was that claim ever made and also there is no other non Muslims academic that even makes that claim except Dan. Every person from history or any academic that studied Islam will tell you it was a town of tribes, a village of tribes. The city of Makkah was known to be a place of tribes not a place which was mother of cities. What a outlandish stupid claim where did he even get this information from. Not once does he provide any evidence where it was called that. Everyone knows the city of Makkah was full of tribes that ruled the city. It was a city of tribes a village of tribes. So how can he make many mistakes in the first 5 mins of the video that is meant to be basic knowledge and his somehow the only to make these claims. Bruh the funny thing is how many people are so stupid that they would listen to what he says and they would just believe, they won’t even check to see wether what he said is true or not. Man how low can the human intellect go. People no days are just too stupid and easily swayed and manipulated
at 11:33 minutes a wrongly translated Hadith حَدَّثَنَا خَالِدُ بْنُ مَخْلَدٍ، حَدَّثَنَا سُلَيْمَانُ بْنُ بِلاَلٍ، حَدَّثَنِي يَحْيَى بْنُ سَعِيدٍ، سَمِعْتُ عَبْدَ اللَّهِ بْنَ عَامِرِ بْنِ رَبِيعَةَ، قَالَ قَالَتْ عَائِشَةُ أَرِقَ النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم ذَاتَ لَيْلَةٍ فَقَالَ " لَيْتَ رَجُلاً صَالِحًا مِنْ أَصْحَابِي يَحْرُسُنِي اللَّيْلَةَ ". إِذْ سَمِعْنَا صَوْتَ السِّلاَحِ قَالَ " مَنْ هَذَا ". قِيلَ سَعْدٌ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ جِئْتُ أَحْرُسُكَ. فَنَامَ النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم حَتَّى سَمِعْنَا غَطِيطَهُ. قَالَ أَبُو عَبْدِ اللَّهِ وَقَالَتْ عَائِشَةُ قَالَ بِلاَلٌ أَلاَ لَيْتَ شِعْرِي هَلْ أَبِيتَنَّ لَيْلَةً بِوَادٍ وَحَوْلِي إِذْخِرٌ وَجَلِيلُ فَأَخْبَرْتُ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم. One night the Prophet (ﷺ) was unable to sleep and said, "Would that a righteous man from my companions guarded me tonight." Suddenly we heard the clatter of arms, whereupon the Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Who is it?" It was said, "I am Sa`d, O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! I have come to guard you." The Prophet (ﷺ) then slept so soundly that we heard him snoring. Abu `Abdullah said: `Aisha said: Bilal said, "Would that I but stayed overnight in a valley with Idhkhir and Jalil (two kinds of grass) around me (i.e., in Mecca)." Then I told that to the Prophet (ﷺ) . Translator qoute Mecca from himself
During Prophet (Peace be Up On Him) times there was treaty happened between kuffar of Makkah and Prophet (Peace be Up On Him) in place called Hudebiyah.. That place is between Madinah and Makkah... And Prophet (Peace be Up On Him) and his Companions were travelling for Umrah from Madinah to Makkah.... So if Makkah is Patra as per Dan... Then there should be place called Hudebiyah between Madinah and Patra.. Can anyone knows about that place? Who is considering the Patra as Makkah..
Petra is the real Mecca : Al Tabari mentionned that Mecca was near by people called The Amalikites and according to the Bible the Amalikites lived near by Petra in Mount Seir, here he mentionned in this document : muslim-library.com/books/2019/05/en_Tabari_Volume_02.pdf (page 73) : '' At last they reached Mecca, which at that time was nothing but acacia trees, mimosa, and thorn trees, and there was a people called the Amalekites outside Mecca and its surroundings. ''
Masjid Qiblatain was built when RasuluLLah Muhammad s.a.w was still alive ❣️ It means, Ka'bah @ Makkah had been existed already 🤔 It means, RasuluLLah did his Hajj in Makkah 🕋 How about the story of moving the black stone from Petra to Makkah? What year? 🤔
The great temple in petra Is the Kaaba Arafat is the external fence of the Kaaba Inside the Kaaba there is a fountain of Safa and the fountain of Marwa The fountain of Safa is used for ablution The fountain of marwa is used for drink
@@salmanhossin Please read my other comment about the pillar. Another finding I found is about the pit in the kabah, if you have the book (Akhbar Makkah), please read on the Page 249, that said ... they took HUBAL (statue) out, which was on the JUBB (arabic) or PIT/CISTERN (english) ... If you have Petra Great Temple book by Joukowsky it is explained in detail that Petra Great Temple has Cistern which the pagan put their big statue on the cistern. Nothing we find this finding on the "Ka'bah" in saudi. I am still preparing video to show many findings to prove Petra is true Makkah, hope end of this year I finished it.
@@anwardjunaedy5722 how about the smaller rectangular or trapezoid shaped structure? Dan claims that the sacrificial altar is the original Kaaba. Any ideas on that and why there is such a discrepancy in the dimensions provided by Azraqi and the Great Temple of Petra?
Without prejudice, I conclude the following (a) DG acknowledge the existence of Prophet Mohamed saw and Islam (b) Issue is the location of the area labelled as Mecca ie where the prophet lives. DG contend that based on historical "evidence" and "archaeological findings" the actual location of Mecca was in Petra. Unfortunately, no documentation exists in the Romans/Byzantine Empire Collection that Mecca exists in Petra despite being 150miles from Jerusalem. It was the Romans that concurred with Petra in 106AD and name it "Arabia Petraea" They continued to rule over the city for more than 250 years until the middle of the fourth century A.D. when an earthquake destroyed many of its buildings. The Byzantines eventually took control of the region and governed Petra for some 300 years. (ie until circa 600AD). This means that they would have records of Mohamed, Mecca and Ka'abah if it is in Petra (c) The movie uses 2 unknown Arabic Christians to support DG's findings. This is an attempt to show Arabic Muslims agree with him. (d) He was using Al-Tabari books as references. The fact shows that Al Tabari lives 839-923AD ie over 200 years after the prophet died means that his collections are based on 3rd party statements which are hard to be corroborated. Like Plato records, it has to be taken with great caution (a pinch of salt). Similarly when it comes to Al-Bukhari Hadith (e) Had indeed the Prophet been a Nabatean (and not Arab), the early Quran would be written in Aramaic and not Arabic. This is confirmed by the Birmingham scripture on an animal skin in Arabic that has been carbon-dated to the time of the Prophet. Watch: th-cam.com/video/jowQond7_UE/w-d-xo.html (f) Ka'abah being rebuilt and moving from one location to another may be true. The question is move from where to where? It is unlikely from Petra. Rebuilding is a norm due to the ravages of time. We have seen ancient buildings degenerate over time. (g) Location of Hubaidiyah based on literature and treaty of Hubaidiyah which correlates to the present-day location of Mecca (h) In the early part of the documentary (39-41), references were made to Al Bukhari's hadith as a supporting argument but in a later part, you questioned the validity of the Hadith that was written over 200 years of the prophet's death. Isn't this ironic as you would use the Hadith when it favours you? Albukhari 26: 645 as selectively chosen www.iium.edu.my/deed/hadith/bukhari/026_sbt.html Albukhari 3:891 as found in many references is different from what you have given in the documentary. Example: www.iium.edu.my/deed/hadith/bukhari/050_sbt.html (i) Civil war (fitna) (Year 680-692): Quote,"The Second Fitna was a period of general political and military disorder and civil war in the Islamic community during the early Umayyad caliphate. It followed the death of the first Umayyad caliph Mu'awiya I in 680 and lasted for about twelve years. The war involved the suppression of two challenges to the Umayyad dynasty, the first by Husayn ibn Ali, as well as his supporters including Sulayman ibn Surad and Mukhtar al-Thaqafi who rallied for his revenge in Iraq, and the second by Abd Allah ibn al-Zubayr. The roots of the civil war go back to the First Fitna. After the assassination of the third caliph Uthman, the Islamic community experienced its first civil war over the question of leadership, with the main contenders being Ali and Mu'awiya. Following the assassination of Ali in 661 and the abdication of his successor Hasan the same year, Mu'awiya became the sole ruler of the caliphate. Mu'awiya's unprecedented move to nominate his son, Yazid, as his heir sparked opposition and tensions soared after Mu'awiya's death" (j) Muslims do not pray towards any city but rather face the Kaabah. If indeed the Kaabah was relocated, then Muslim's prayer direction remains unchanged ie facing Kaabah (k) I have, via email proof of your mistake on an early mosque in Malaysia facing petra. You admitted to the mistake. How is it you can make such a mistake? Are there any other mistakes you made? (l)Al Tabri's historical rendition is available online: www.kalamullah.com/Books/The%20History%20Of%20Tabari/Tabari_Volume_18.pdf For the year 70 - There are 2 parts (FEBRUARY 9, 669-JANUARY 28, 670) and ( JANUARY 29, 670-JANUARY 17, 671) Total 28 pages and not few lines (m) By DG's own findings and by Islamic records and Quranic verses (Surah al-Baqarah, 2:144), the direction of Qibla changed towards Mecca from Jerusalem during the prophet's time while living in Madinah. This remains until today. Isn't this proof enough that Mecca in ancient times is where it is today? The evidence is overwhelming that DG's is wrong
@@damarisclementino7459 All Jewish sourced text is from heretical Hebrew sects or heterodox Aramaic texts existing after the alleged lifetime of the alleged prophet.
The first Masjid in Madina is Masjid Quba, I wonder about its Qiblat? 🤔 And Masjid Qiblatain, surely after Masjid Quba, right? 🤔 Logically, Masjid Quba's Qiblat should face the same direction with the first Qiblat of Masjid Qiblatain, right? 🤔 I wonder about the year gap between the first Masjid: Quba vs Moving Qiblat to Ka'bah at Makkah? 🤔
He discusses these geographies in subsequent videos. They all make sense according to the Hadith references and descriptions. Watch his you tube videos and he covers these issues as well as the motivation to move the Kaaba to its current location for safety.
They face Petra because they are Nabatean temples not mosques. Before Abd Al Malik there were no Muslims in any modern sense. It’s the Abbassids who created Mecca as a holy city of Islam
🤔 if you would be correct many more buildings should point to Petra including pre Islamic ones (not the case) . Hence your theory contradicts the data.
This version omits the description of the dimensions of the old kaaba from early islamic sources. It also omits the comparison with the ruined structure in front of the Temple of Dushera in Petra whose measurements are in accord with the same islamic sources. Perhaps Dan is in the process of changing his mind based on newer archaeological findings in Petra, more than likely the huge platform area they found by satellite in 2016.
well we are laughing .. where is Zam Zam? and during ISLAM compass is not yet created so its natural that mosque in the past are not accurate. and yes the first qibla is Jerusalem and its change by the prophet muhammad..
@KingTaupCreatives you don't need a compas to figure out north, south, east and west. There is a massive directional difference between Mecca and Petra.
If you are Muslim, you know that Muslims hold Quran and Hadist. Just like how Jews use Tanakh and Talmud. As well as, Christians' Old Testament and New Testament. @@sule2318
Dan Gibson, The sacred city and your other videos are extremely interesting and I believe do show how much work you have put in to come to your conclusions.. I am absolutely fascinated by the archeological evidence you have shown in your 30+ years of study.. My question.. I have reviewed images of the inside of the holy Kaaba in which it can be seen the direction of the prophet Muhammad (PBUH) prayed to which is marked with white tiling on the floor, which I believe to be the wall of between the Yemini and Syrian corners, opposite the door of the holy Kaaba (Image attached). Is this significant. If you can help to explain or conclude and idea for this 'direction' I would be grateful, Many thanks
@@TohouBohou what do you mean by Arabic made?!? P(F)itrah ..? Jordan is the land of the Hashemite Kingdom.. the land of the prophet Muhammad from the Hashemite clan in the Qurayshi tribe. My brother IQra
I think, if surveyed, the Temple Period tombs arround Jerusalem, point to the Temple being where the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem is today, not on the Temple Mount. I think there is other evadence, if looked for.
For the Gibson's Kaaba in Petra ... There is no and never existed a Kaaba in Petra. The Gibson’s Kaaba is only an old roman sacrificial altar. This structure is well identified by a French archeologist team, directed by Françcois Renel, who work 20 years in Petra. Also, the Department of Antiquities of Jordan approved their studies. Gibson never show and will never show any paper of this studies. No archeologist approves Gibson’s hypothesis. Gibson base is finding on Al-Azraqi measurement of the Kaaba. But those don’t fit on the structure in Petra. So in an other video, Gibson try to trick people by showing an unclear image of his so-called Kaaba and stick the Al-Azraqi measurement on it. Not honest at all! But Gibson forgot that he said that Al-Azraqi destroyed the Kaaba ‘’to the ground’’ and also took off its foundation stones. So, nothing suppose to be left of the Kaaba structure in Petra. But his so-called Kaaba in Petra has a remain of stones of 2.5m high! So, the Al-Azraqi’s report doesn’t fit with Gibson story. In Petra, the structure is a block full of stones that you can just walk on it. But the real Kaaba is made of 4 walls that you can enter in. Different structures!
Could you give your reference that it is an old roman altar? Even that would not contradict the statements of Dan Gibson since the Kaaba could have been built on the structure of a roman altar (which would not have been used anymore at that time). Also the fact that the Kaaba was raised to the ground doesn't contradict the fact that some basic structure would be left (can you give a reference for your claim here"). Obviously the Kaaba would have been built upon these foundation structures so I dont see your problem with the four walls. Finally, you claim that Dan Gibsons measurements are not correct where do you get that info from? DG gives some reference but I agree that it would be better if he would more systematically make his sources available.
@@hans471 It looks like for you this Gibson’ documentary is 100% true without any doubt. At the beginning of the video (0:45), it is saying that ‘’every day 5 times a day they face a black rock …’’ For us Muslims when we hear that we know that’s from a liar because we don’t face the black rock, there is nothing in the religion or in the Quran that we have to face the black rock 5 times a day to pray. We face the Kaaba not because of the black rock. I did my research on the Gibson’s Kaaba. I saw his video and read his writing on the subject. Also I searched what others (like archeologists) say about this supposed Kaaba in Petra. And all say the same, it’s an old roman altar and find great documentation. You should do your own research. For measurements of the Kaaba, you should compare Gibson’s measurement and archeologists’ measurement. Now it’s late in my country, I will give you links tomorrow if you are still interested.
@@roukayajannah5111 So you have not answered any of my questions but instead resort to personal attack? That is not very convincing. This makes your claims dubious...
@@hans471 I just made a comment with the links but now it's gone! It looks like the page doesn't accept the links!!! Sorry, I will try in an other way tomorrow
@@hans471 My reference is the document: New Excavations in the Qasr al-Bint Area at Petra It is said on page 2: ‘’The great sacrificial altar …This formerly Nabatean building went to several transformation in Roman times, …’’. Because the altar was transformed in Roman times, it is said it is a roman altar.
Hmm.. 🤔 Becca in Petra Vs Mecca in Saudi Arabia 🤔 AbdAllah ibn Zubair moved the black stone from Petra to Saudi Arabia; is it the reason to change the name from Becca to Mecca? 🤔 But it happened after RasuluLLah's death, right? 🤔 So, we need to check the direction of Qiblat in Masjid Quba and masjid Qiblatain before renovated ❣️ Or was there political interest in renovating those Masjids after AbdAllah ibn Zubair moved to Mecca and rebuilt rebuilt Ka'bah in Mecca ? 🤔 And was it AbdAllah ibn Zubair who gave the name to empty land that he chose to live in: Mecca [almost the same as Becca] ? 🤔 The empty land near Madina the big city and civilization! And using the Blackstone & Ka'bah [the house of Blackstone] as the source of the income or tool for exchange 🤔 since pilgrimage is the part of habit's from ancient culture ❤ Allahu'alam... The next question: - The Blackstone ? 🤔 - Zamzam water ? 🤔 Allahu'alam.
Salam Dan, I hope Muslims embrace your work so that it doesn't get tainted and misused for ideological purposes by so-called ex-Muslims. Disputes about qibla direction does not change the truth of Islam. And Allah says in the Quran, "It is not righteousness that ye turn your faces to the East and the West; but righteous is he who believeth in Allah and the Last Day and the angels and the Scripture and the prophets; and giveth wealth, for love of Him, to kinsfolk and to orphans and the needy and the wayfarer and to those who ask, and to set slaves free; and observeth proper worship and payeth the poor-due. And those who keep their treaty when they make one, and the patient in tribulation and adversity and time of stress. Such are they who are sincere. Such are the Allah-fearing."
As an agnostic person, And I'm arab I want to tell you what you did is a total failure to understand the Arabic language, and all the conclusions you came up with are highly doubted and not accurate, I don't believe in religions in general as I said I'm agnostic and I was a Muslim but I left Islam after good research, and it's really difficult for non-Arabs to understand this religion and this area.
I have no doubt you have been used of our Heavenly Father to reach many trapped in the false religion of muhammadanism, for Christ Jesus. Thank you Brother for your diligent research and service to the true Faith. Welcome home to Canada, live long and prosper!!! ; )
So Sunni Shia for past 1400 years didn’t know where Mecca was But this new white and shining armour Found out the truth This documentary is pure nonsense
They didn't because the Abbassids and their Chikhs of Sultans from Bukhara who are Shia (meaning don't follow Sunna) wrote the Sunna, so that Sunni believe in the fake Hejaz Mecca
LOL.. where is Zam Zam? and during ISLAM compass is not yet created so its natural that mosque in the past are not accurate. and yes the first qibla is Jerusalem and its change by the prophet muhammad
The compass was created in the 3rd century before Christ, as of the 7th century A.D. it experienced advancements, and its more evident when we grasp the fact that the first msoques are facing towards Petra and not Mecca. This documental has a lot of sense, other historias have also pointed out the same.
@@valentino3228 lol do you think that A barefooted Arab knew how to used compass back then? The Arab are using the stars to determined the location which tend to be ina accurate. Lol And the magnetic compass was discovered as early as 11th to 12th century not 7th century ....know facts first.
@@KingTaupCreatives Tend to be inaccurate pointing towards the same direction (Petra)? The magnetic compass, which is used for navigation, was invented in China during the Han Dynasty, around the 2nd century BC. It revolutionized maritime exploration and navigation. The compass used a magnetized needle to point toward the Earth's magnetic north pole, allowing sailors to determine their direction even when they couldn't see the stars.
@@valentino3228 Lol.the first magnetic compass is discovered by the Europeans in 11 and 12th century the chinese though discovered the compass however the Arab and the chineses was far from each other so the possibility of Chinese and arab to meet is not the usuall... lol The fisrt Mosque was Mosque Nabawi and its Qibla is towards jErusalem and later change to Mecca ..other mosque around the world during early times is not that accurate in finding Qibla because no tools to help them to determine the precise location of Qibla/Mecca BUT now majority of Mosque are all pointing to Mecca with the Help of Gps. And No Petra is a cursed place as according to the Prophet Muhammad and the Quran and the Hadith never Mentioned Petra as Qibla so its Funny that Qibla is the Petra as what this soo called expert are saying lol.
Petra itu disebutkan dlm Al Qur`an, mrk itu mengukir gunung-gunung sebagai tempat tinggal dst. Jk Mekkah itu di petra tentunya bangunan itu selalu disebut-sebut sbg tempat tinggal dan orng kaya yg tinggal di bangunan itu. dan penentangannyapun pasti semakin keras thd Nabi. Spt di zaman Nabi Nuh, tapi kenyataannya tdk. Kenyataan tdk ada disebut-sebut dalam Al Qur`an. Jadi video ini disebut Bias konfirmasi, yaitu ada suatu tempat yaitu Petra kemudian dicocok-cocokanlah dg ciri-ciri dlm hadits itu. Pertanyaanya kenapa tdk di baghdad saja atau di Mesir atau di Palestina lbh hebat lagi, tempat asal Mekkah kan ada sungai ada pohon. Ada kesamaan ciri-ciri tempat, salahnya di mana. Padahal banyak tempat yg ciri-cirinya sama.Sama sekali tdk ilmiah. Justru anda jgn kaget 50 th lagi atau 100 thn lagi Mekkah/arab Saudi ditumbuhi rumput-runput dan pohon-pohon, Itulah salah satu tanda-tanda akhir zaman. Sekarang saya sdh kelihatan tanda-tandanya. Jadi mister Dan Gibson itu sdh ketinggalan zaman.
I am Muslim and studied archaeology but did not make it my career. I am glad I studied archaeology because it helps me look for the truth and not accept things at face value. I find your videos fascinating and instantly believe that there is much truth to what you say. The murder of Ali, Hasan and Husayn clearly shows Islam was hijacked and faced threats. When Muslims are burning copies of the Quran whilst trying to compile it and the members of ahl al bayat are being brutally murdered, it's clear something's not right. My spouse is descended from the Islamic prophet through Ali and Fatimah and I've seen the family tree but my in-laws say they don't like to mention it because pride is sinful. However, when I looked at the family tree it was clear that for several 100s of years, heirs were murdered. I believe people keep quiet about being related to the Prophet out of fearing for their life. I always wondered how many members actually survived but went into hiding after the prophet died. Karbala has always fascinated me. Are the remains of Imam Husayn really there in its entirety? The gathering for 10 muharram is larger than what we see in Mecca
@@TohouBohou My family is Sunni. I am not Sunni or Shia. I am just Muslim. I don't believe everything in the Hadith because I think word of man can be corrupted. I follow the Quran and if I think something is good and not evil mentioned in hadith I will follow. I use my common sense.
@@RE-gf7lr if you are Muslim and can't stand up to the oppression within the Ummah that has been there from day 1 then that's shameful for you. just saying.. dont assume you know everything
What you fail to mention is that islam is the offspring of what was called Christian Arianism. Mohammed's teaching were in perfect synchronisation with Arianism. Al Bukhari is NOT a source.
In early Indian history of trade and travel, Indians travelled to what is geographically Jordan and Syria to for not only trade but for pilgrimages. That gives me a hunch that it was Hinduism everywhere in the world and then the break away Semitic religions evolved from them over time. Every new religion has had one direction. To go from a Matriarchal belief system to a patriarchal one. Drifted away from a system that revered nature and fertility to one that demanded loyalty to some unnatural masculine egotistic edict giver. ....and I am so upset that the Africans who probably still had their fascinating, natural and original systems, never got down to writing them and then straight away got colonized and got converted to Christianity or Islam!
Dan's videos about Mecca look like a loud and stinky wet fart that makes loud noises and smells like poops but after a short period of time it goes away and people forget it was ever once existed!!
Alhamdulillah this video only strengthens our belief in the truth of Islam. In Islam we only submit to Allah, as the Lord of Heaven and Earth. When Allah ordered the Messenger of Allah to change the direction of the Qibla from the Al-Aqsa Mosque in Palestine to the Grand Mosque in Mecca, we followed. In fact, for the prophet Muhammad pbuh, it is literally the opposite direction. We do not worship the black stone, but we worship Allah the Creator. This video is nothing but to strengthen the evidence that place, time, and people are not absolute. What we are doing on this Earth is just following the right directions, Al Quran Surah Al A'raf (7:29) 4
instead of change directions, why not use the direction where the Sun or the Moon is rising in that day? it is more efficient and not confusing than pointing to specific building in far far far away. lmao.
Muhammad is fiction, there is no elephant war against mecca. Thats only claim in quran. Show me the proof that the war really exist! So if the war never happend, the mecca also never known before 740ad, meaning muhamad never been born there also. 😆 Muhammad was in her mother womb for 4 years, as a doctor, do you believe such BS? 😁
You say in this documentary that lack of archaeological findings in Makkah proves your theory that Makkah was not the true place of the Kaaba and Islam However In the Quran Allah swt tells us that this was the first time a messenger had been sent to this community and their city had never been destroyed This is why we would not expect archaeological findings which are typically associated with cities that were destroyed through some calamity On the other hand Petra is a city that has been destroyed and so could not be the birth place of Islam Beyond that Allah knows best
!["ซี - เอมี่ " ย้อนความรัก 19 ปี ที่ต้องทนกันและกัน... | แฉ 22 ต.ค. 67 [2/3] | GMM25](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ykv9ILzatHM/mqdefault.jpg)
I'm a Muslim and I thank you for this movie and your work, it's amazing! Inchallah you will make more!
The things we are finding out is destroying Islam, I looked at the evidence all the gibla points to perta . We been lied to !!!
You're a strange Muslim
😳
Your search for truth is truly admirable ❤ 👏 keep going dear 👍🌟🎉 :)
See videos:
New research expands on J Atwill's discovery that the story of Jesus is a parody of Emperor' Titus' victories.
Paul the Apostle: Liar and Conman | James Valliant, Rabbi Tovia Singer
This is an amazing work. Unfortunately we live in a world where people prefer made up lies in place of truth even when presented with fact.
May your passion continue to multiply you in all your heart desires
You know when the counter argument is violence and threat that you won
Actually it's wel known by some scholars but they like to keep this quite
The most important point not in this video is that the Kaaba has a Qibla wall too which itself is pointed towards Petra
I appreciate all the time you put in to this ! Your right for looking
Love this historic corrections, this video should be translated to arabic, kurdish, turkish, persian, indonesia, india
It is
@@memmem0011 No it's not it's only in hebrew
Another point, it's not the "mother of all cities" it's the "mother of all villages"
So you deny the fact other mosques kibla is towards Petra (Becca)
Petra Bekka … what’s about Mekka 😆
If your research method is applied to ancient mosques in Indonesia before repairing the Qibla direction to Makkah, of course you can almost certainly conclude your research that the Kaaba is located in Mozambique or Tanzania.
God bless Dan Gibson's ministry.
Is Dan a Muslim or Christian? It’s hard to tell..
@@davidsolomon1175 He is a faithful Christian.
@@lislee2645 I’ve never seen him say he is and his videos seem to promote islam if anything
@@davidsolomon1175 I had seen .
In my opinion he is doing a great job exposing the false narrative of Islam today.
@@lislee2645 yea, but I Dont think he is against the Quran. I’m pretty sure he is a Quran only Muslim.
What's even more interesting about this event, outside of the battle of Islam within is the foundation of Islam came at a very very interesting time when the western catholic church had a schism with the eastern orthodox church. The eastern orthodox churches were in accordance with the original teachings of Jesus and the bible where as Rome was already HIGHLY paganized in its observance of Christianity, if you can even call it christianity anymore. If you look at the map of what Islam came to control pre 1492 it literally covered everywhere that Catholicism did not. Can this all be a coincidence? When you start digging into the name of Allah and the symbology used in the cycle moon and star it starts to get crazy. I practiced Islam faithfully for 3 years and they are very dedicated to Maryiam as being the true intercessor of God rather than Jesus. Basically, the way the Qu'ran tells it that Maryiam was so faithful in her obedience of God and she begged everyday to be a part of the 'church', to make a difference and that's why God chose her to give her Jesus, to be a prophet and key member of the church who Maryiam could have true influence through. That's actually what sold me on Islam was the fact that it seemed to tie up the loose ends of Christianity so well or so I thought at the time. Now I'm glad to have had that experience and can understand ALL of it so much deeper. I can see the deception so much better. I leave you with this one bite. Mohammed was married to a woman named Khadija before he became all world famous. Her cousin was Waraquah. She was a Roman Catholic Meccan before Islam took over the east.
What kind of Muslim were you for 3 yrs? There will be none to intercede nor help u - other than Allah on the day of judgment its in God's word in the Quran
I believe earlier this man than the Islamic traditional books. By the way I'm ex-muslim.
No one cares
Muslim ignore history and actual evidence to obey biases and lying scholars.
And keep worshipping hubal or al lah or dushara the moon God
@@R-rr1 man u'r so ignorant i swear. God with a capital G in arabic is Allah. there is no god but God/Allah(in arabic). + all the "actual evidence'' ur talking about has been totally demolished and refuted. ull be shocked when u know that dan gibson is the one lying to u :)
@@YoYo-ze2bp it's ilah not Allah.
Go correct the archeological evidences
@@R-rr1 yoooo!! LOL. i literally told u Allah is God with a capital G. Ilah is god with a small g. u just demonstrated ur ignorance.
When you look at the stories from The Bible and compare them to The Sirat Rasul Allah = The biography of Muhammed -> you can notice that they are taken about from same places, and that place is not The mondern Mecca because -> it is the town we are calling The Petra nowaday, and then everyting fits together in these stories - very well.
Petra is absolutely not « Arabic » … open your eyes dude … and WakeUp 🥂
The Christian coins with the term Mohammad on them referring to Christ (earliest one fond do far is 659), refute the existence of a Mohammad of Islam
show me the coin
@@خالدبنالوليد-ك8ع
Here’s just one in the video link below the info 👍
Coins that couldn’t have been minted if the Abbasid Mohammad of Islam was real.
They show that Islam and the Abbasid Mohammad of Islam (Surah 33:40) didn’t exist in the 7th Century.
1. The earliest Arab coins were minted in 641 in the Persian fashion with the Bismallah (In the name of the Gracious and Merciful God). Soon after other coins with Abdullah (Servant of God) appeared. When this title used singularly on a coin by Arab anti-Trinitarian Christians, it referred to Christ.
When combined with a name for example; ‘Abd Allah ibn al Zubayr’ it was a ‘nom de guerre’.
2. The earliest coins with Mohammad (Praised/Blessed One referring to Christ) are minted in the style of Persian coins shortly after the fall of the Sasanian Empire.
Their coins typically have the ruler depicted in the Persian style but with four *crescent moons around the ring, with Muhammad (Christ) written on the outside. The three earliest examples found by archaeologists were minted in Sirjan (Iran) in 659, in Zaranj (Afghanistan) in 661, and in Ray (modern day Tehran in Iran).
3. Circa the time of **Abdul al Malik (Reign 685-705);
A. In Beisan in Palestine a copper Christian coin which has the Christian Fish and Mohammad (Christ) on it.
B. In 1947 a find of a rectangular copper coin in Palestine caused quite a stir. On the front it depicts a Christian Ruler holding a long cross, on the back there is a large M with a Christian Cross above it, and below the M the word Mohammad (Christ).
If the ***Mohammad of Islam had been a real figure these coins could never have been produced. Indeed, it is now (outside the Muslim/Islamic World) accepted by Islamic scholars he never existed.
*By 682-683 the crescent moons had been replaced by Christian Crosses.
**Both Abdul al Malik and his brother were followers of the Christian Anti-Trinitarian sect and had Christian symbols on their coins, for example Malik’s brother had crosses etc.
***Abdul al Malik sent a directive throughout his kingdom that the term ‘Mohammad’ was to be used to refer to Christ
th-cam.com/video/nQLfGfciqZw/w-d-xo.html
This is obvious… but even « jesus » is false sadly
@@TohouBohou
th-cam.com/video/43mDuIN5-ww/w-d-xo.htmlsi=H5nVwZIx0xraOxEi
I learned most of this about 30 Years ago. When studied for my Confirmation. It's sad to see that the lies are still are more prevelant in the whole world.
islam is unravelling quicker than anyone imagined
Islam is the worship of the moon God who's name depending on the location was hubal, allah,and dushara ect
@@R-rr1 What are you talking about bro? What nonsense is this ?
@@cihanbuyukbas7333 ???)
@@R-rr1 Islam is the worship of the moon God?? What do you even mean? Whats your source for this?
Real simple: we worship the Sun, you worship the Moon.
We worship the trees, you worship the desert. Different race, different pace.
Someone mentioned in his video that Dan Gibson is not a PHD holder. I say..may Allah give him peace and courage to accep the theory of Dan Gibson. I truly believe Petra is that Holi Place and not Mecca
PhD's do not mean you are right!
I can really exposed his whole propaganda
آية: 37
رَّبَّنَآ إِنِّيٓ أَسۡكَنتُ مِن ذُرِّيَّتِي بِوَادٍ غَيۡرِ ذِي زَرۡعٍ عِندَ بَيۡتِكَ ٱلۡمُحَرَّمِ رَبَّنَا لِيُقِيمُواْ ٱلصَّلَوٰةَ فَٱجۡعَلۡ أَفۡـِٔدَةٗ مِّنَ ٱلنَّاسِ تَهۡوِيٓ إِلَيۡهِمۡ وَٱرۡزُقۡهُم مِّنَ ٱلثَّمَرَٰتِ لَعَلَّهُمۡ يَشۡكُرُونَ
37. "O our Lord! I have made some of my offspring to dwell in an uncultivable valley by Your Sacred House (the Ka‘bah at Makkah) in order, O our Lord, that they may perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât). So fill some hearts among men with love towards them, and (O Allâh) provide them with fruits so that they may give thanks.[1]
98:6- Indeed those who disbelieve from the People of the Book and the polytheists will be in the Fire of Hell
to stay there forever. They are the worst of all
beings.
Dan Gibson, where have you been? Looking forward to more of your videos
Me too 😺
Pray,, May God Bless you. Huaisheng Mosque in china , The Huaisheng Mosque (Chinese: 广州怀圣寺; also known as the Lighthouse Mosque and the Great Mosque of Canton) is the main mosque of Guangzhou. Rebuilt many times over its history, it is traditionally thought to have been originally built over 1,300 years ago, which would make it one of the oldest mosques in the world.
Is that not also the farthest mosque?
Persians have traded with China long before Islam arrived. They brought with them Zoroastrianism, Manichaeism and Nestorian Christianity. However, Taoism and Buddhism were the main religion in China in the Tang dynasty. Islam came slightly later. The Abbasid caliphate fought against the Tang dynasty in Central Asia and that defined their border. In late Tang dynasty, massive rebellions broke out. Huang Chao, led the rebellion army into Guangzhou and massacred most of the Arabs and Persians there. Islam flourished again in the coastal cities in south China during the Mongolian empire.
Very good research Dan Gibson.
The winners write the records. Not hard to believe that the losers would be written out of the records.
Im surprised they(j!had!s) havent tried to take him out, its a religious duty for muslims to silence anyone speaking the truth a out islam...
Winners write the records, but the damage they live behind leads to clues and the truth.
But the Quran claims to be God’s message, and God’s message is protected from alteration, untampered. If it is true that Abbasid dynasty had altered the Quran, that means it is a book written by human, not the original message by God. The whole foundation of Islam is shaken. Muslims will not tolerate this and they would only deny it as heresy and they would want jihad and Dan Gibson dead.
There is story in Thabary history book which told Abraham, Hajar, and Ismail moved to 'Mecca' :
According to .. . Mujahid and other scholars: When God pointed out
to Abraham the place o f the House and told him how to build the sanctuary,
he set out to do the job and Gabriel went with him. It was said that
whenever he passed a town he would ask, “Is this the town which Gods
command meant, O Gabriel?” And Gabriel would say: “Pass it by.”
At last they reached Mecca, which at that time was nothing but acacia trees,
mimosa, and thorn trees, and there was a people called AMALEKITES outside Mecca and its surroundings.
The HOUSE (Bayt/Kabah) at that time was but a HILL of RED CLAY.
Abraham said to Gabriel, “Was it here that I was ordered to leave
them?” Gabriel said, “Yes.” Abraham directed Hagar and Ishmael to go to AL-HIJR and settled them down there.
He commanded Hagar, the mother of Ishmael, to find shelter there. Then he said, “My Lord, I have
settled some of my posterity in an uncultivable valley near Your Holy House . . . that they may be thankful” (Quran 14:37).
Then he journeyed back to his family in Syria, leaving the two o f them at the House.
From that story we can see some points :
1. the place where they reach Mecca is where Amalekites tribe sorrounding Mecca (Petra?) see here bible-history.com/biblemaps/the-amalekites
2. the House (Bayt/Ka'bah) nothing at that time but still in HILL form with RED CLAY (Petra is called by Red Rose city)
from this finding Abraham and Ishmael raised the Bayt/Ka'bah on the HILL. it is interesting that GREAT TEMPLE in Petra was built on the Hill about 20 meters high from road.
3. it was mentioned AL-HIJR, in English Hijr is stone/rock. Petra is greek name with the meaning is also stone/rock.
No reason for them to move south when they had prosperous egypt and trading mesapotamia in west, it is illogical for family to move south to desert in those days since many dangers like robbers murderes existed back then
@@skepticalorganism6716 I don't want to discuss whether the story is true or not, or Abraham is a real or fictional character. My intention is how the Holy Book and History Book describe the story. Qur'an not mention in detail the story, but Bible does. Hajar and Ishmail were sent away by Sarah, and because Hajar came from Egypt, so maybe Abraham would bring them back to Egypt, but God "order" to place them in somewhere called wilderness in Paran. To go to Egypt from Israel there is a well known road way through King's Highway and that road pass the Petra, this is more "logical" than Abraham sent his son and wife to Saudi Arabia which is about 1500 km by Camel 😆
@@anwardjunaedy5722 Paran (Faraan) is the oldest name for Hejaz, so of course, he is rightly came to the Valley of Becca (Makkah)
And Ishmaelmis first born whom Abraham lay for sacrifice near the mountain of Mecca.
@@abdullahalrai WHAT ??? LOL ... Please learn Ptolemy's Geography boy, after that I will explain you about where is the true location of Paran and Sinai Mountain.
@@abdullahalrai What is the historical evidence of Paran is hejaz .... It's Islamist crooked story only not evident from the fact
I thought first that this was a sequel to the original episode Sacred City! But turned out to be just a re posting of the same!
Honestly , This whole idea of Petra being the birthplace of Islam seems at odds with history, especially wten objectively studying archaeological and other historical materials:
- Petra was abandoned due to earthquakes and fires resulting from them
- The Nabateans moved their political center to Busra al Sham , Bostra, now in southern Syria, and this city became an important cutlural center, so one would expect any religious renewal movement to start there
-The Petra Papyri are a cache of documents discovered in what was likely a burnt church in Petra , they are written in Greek by the local Arab Bisho, and are mainly legal documents and records dealing with issues such as marriage contracts, inheritance, disputes over land and property. These documents provide us a glimpse into that Period ,yet there is no indication that there were any religious renewal movements, or any sort of political change.
-Petra at the time of the rise of Islam was part of the Byzantine empire, the Byzantines wanted to keep the region under their control as a buffer Zone to protect against raiding Nomads from Northern Arabia, as well as from Persian Sassanid invasions which had many times laid waste to many important cities, one would think that the rise of a new secessionist religious movement would be important to the Byzantine authorities and its local Arab vassals, yet there is no mention of such a movement in the regions controlled by the Byzantines in the Southern Levant, surely the last thing they would want to see is a local power pushing for independence both political and religious, Greek,Roman and Byzantine authorities always to crush such movements , be it Palmyra under Zenobia, Judea under the Hasmonians, Samaria under Julianus, The Arab Tanukh confederation of Mavia or any other local independence asserting powers, especially if such movements are claiming to be a new faith.
it may be not possible. but Petra could be the source of the inspiration for the story of Islam. we must consider the possibility that Muhammad himself never existed.
There is no archeological evidence in Mecca.
@@malayneum this is really a ridiculous argument there see archaeological, written and relics attributed to prophet muhammed and more so his contemporaries his companions all. Existed with their graves still existing.. and has graves.. Its a undisputed history
@@Khanrida2002 where is the archaelogical evidence? the grave of muhammad is still in makkah why dont anybody dare to DNA test them?
Islam is a fabrication … and Petra is absolutely not « Arabic » … there only one holly city
Hi Mr Gibson
I pray you read my comment
I was reading 2 Chronicles 6 and I read Solomon trying to establish a covenant between God and the Temple
Solomon went on to say that even when the people face towards the direction of the temple during prayers in captivity, may the Lord hearken unto them
This reminds me of the directions of the early mosques; they were facing Jerusalem
Is there any connection between 2 chronicles 6 and early Islamic Qiblas? since islam is a hodgepodge of various religious writings especially the BIBLE
Watch them in order as they are not arranged proparly in their channel:
1
th-cam.com/video/1KPBKuCe9eI/w-d-xo.html
2
th-cam.com/video/WAZtrVMl4m0/w-d-xo.html
3
th-cam.com/video/Sb7BDhjAdBM/w-d-xo.html
4
th-cam.com/video/1vJa_-vd44w/w-d-xo.html
5
th-cam.com/video/IzfLGK7iXKk/w-d-xo.html
Jesus
th-cam.com/video/QPM8HIn4hWQ/w-d-xo.html
Greetings Mr. Dan, how can I communicate with you, I have information about a very old mosque, the qibla of this mosque is directed towards Petra until now, and this mosque is still entered by many worshipers and prayer is held there until today, and it is located in the city in which I was born and live
Which city is this at?
In syria
@@wiseguy2287 how old is the mosque? I can give you his email and you can contact him...how you figure it still connects to Petra?
You want his email or not?
Yes i want .. you can from google earth give me the email to give you the name of the mosqe ..
@Dan Gibson I watched the old one you posted years back. Does this video contain additional information ?
Yeah I had also watched that
This is the old film, now made available free of charge. A sequel is being considered. Hopefully we can find enough funds to make the sequel, which would include the new research from the last 5 years, and also responses from academic as well as Islamic scholars.
@@DanGibsonFilms Sir what date are you aiming for the sequel?
@@DanGibsonFilms Are you considering returning to Petra with a team to look deeper for evidence of the Kaaba? I know COVID has made travel restrained. But it would be interesting to get you and some Jay Smith guys on the ground there.
@@joshcryer There is no evidence that is a Kaaba but all evidence that is a sacrificial altar a kind of an Ara Pacis.
42:35 Tufail Bin Amr was not the resident of Makkah. please read again carefully.
Hi Dan Gibson.
I watched the documentary 2 weeks ago. It was really nice job. I hope more to come. There is something on my mind. How would you explain the Hijra incident? If the real Kaaba is Petra, where is the place of migration as Medina?
DGs theory does not change the location of Medina, is the Hours was from Petra to Medina
@@hans471 If so, is Medina the place where you migrated from Mecca, where the Kaaba is today?
@@bookworm3957 I am not sure I understand your question. In the traditional islamic account Mohammed migrated friom Mecca (in Saudi Arabia) to Medina. According to Gibson Mohammed migrated from Petra to Medina. Also Gibson claims that Petra at that time was called Mecca by the local Arab community. Gibson agrees with the location of the city of Medina, no change here...
@@hans471 Yes, you got it right. This is exactly the answer to my question. The place of migration is from the city of Petra to the city of Medina. Some places must have been overlooked while watching the documentary. Thanks!
@Siraj Haq He gives you logical arguments and you talk about the Trinity and Jesus. What do the Trinity and Jesus have to do here? Looks like you're trying to change the subject which is a very classic defense of someone refusing to see what's right in front of him.
tysm for your hard work.
God bless you.
at 11:45 Wife of Hazrat Muhammad (SAW) was married to him in Madina. and they settled there, that was an agricultural city.
In 706 AD there is a mosque in Israel. Israel it said. Israel is a place before Palestine Palestinians say there is nothing like Israel or the kingdom of Israel. The land belongs to Jews and Israelites.
This version omits the description of the dimensions of the old kaaba from early islamic sources. It also omits the comparison with the ruined structure in front of the Temple of Dushera in Petra whose measurements are in accord with the same islamic sources. Perhaps Dan is in the process of changing his mind based on newer archaeological findings in Petra, more than likely the huge platform area they found by satellite in 2016.
I also hope for an updated version of the movie!
There is no and never existed a Kaaba in Petra. The Gibson’s Kaaba is only an old sacrificial altar. This structure is well identified by a French archeologist team, directed by François Renel, who work 20 years in Petra. Also, the Department of Antiquities of Jordan approved their studies. Gibson never show and will never show any paper of this studies. No archeologist approves Gibson’s hypothesis.
Gibson base is finding on Al-Azraqi measurement of the Kaaba. But those don’t fit on the structure in Petra. So, Gibson try to trick people by showing an unclear image of his so-called Kaaba and stick the Al-Azraqi measurement on it. Not honest at all!
But Gibson forgot that he said that Al-Azraqi destroyed the Kaaba ‘’to the ground’’ and also took off its foundation stones. So, nothing left of the Kaaba structure in Petra. But his so-called Kaaba in Petra has a remain of stones of 2.5m high! So, the Al-Azraqi’s report doesn’t fit with Gibson story.
In Petra, the structure is a block full of stones that you can just walk on it. But the real Kaaba is made of 4 walls and you can enter in. Different structures!
@@roukayajannah5111 Francois Renel's studies do not disqualify the hypothesis. If it was there and was moved its destruction would be necessary at around the time the Quran was being solidified and the qublas were changed.
@@joshcryer Yes, you should compare Gibson’s measurement and archeologists’ measurement.
Gibson in his video ‘’ A&I 4 Measuring Ka'ba’’ shows a very unclear satellite image of that structure, very little on the image, and put red lines without any scale saying his measurements and saying it’s a good fit! He thinks all are naïve and will believes him.
Gibson said it’s the same measurement of Al-Azraki, (cubit to meter):
It’s not a perfect rectangle: 14.63m x 10.6m x 14.17m x 9.1m
In another video ‘’ A&I 3 The Ka'ba’’ at 6:50 Gibson says that this structure it’s a rebuilt version of the Kaaba. Again, he thinks all are naïve and will believe him.
The French archeologist team directed by François Renel has presented architect plans of the structure identify as a sacrificial altar with a scale and descriptions. With the scale, you can measure it and see that it’s a perfect rectangle of about 14m x 17m.
The measurements are not the same, so Gibson is debunked.
@@roukayajannah5111 I consider what Gibson proffers as a hypothesis, I want to see further archeological study, because all other evidence points to Petra. I don't think necessarily the alter is the site of the Kabba, if it was there, I don't understand why it would be off to the side anyway. As we know from the wall structure it is in a precarious spot there.
Can you please show a single masjid(in between Petra and Mecca) where Petra and Mecca are located at 180 angle, and that's masjid qibla is toward Petra. Your research shows that before the current navigation system, many mosques qiblas were not exactly towards Mecca
Even « masjid harem » is not what you believe to be … wake up 🥂
These people are stupid. Before the first mosque was made and before the revelation came down for them to face qibla when praying they would face Jerusalem to pray. First of all anyone with even a little intelligence can research and study for themselves and see that this Dan guy made a mistake in the first 5 mins of the video. He claimed Mecca to be a trading town, but there isn’t one place in the Muslim history we’re that claim was made. Anyone that even studied the history would have known that the people of Makkah use to travel with their goods in caravans to trading towns or routes and they would stay there until they traded all their goods and then they would return back to Makkah with their profits. So straight away in the first 5 mins he makes a mistake and continues to lie Upon that mistake. How can you even take anything this guy says to be reliable when he made a big mistake on something that’s so small and the information is accessible for anyone with their own brains and eyes to witness and read and understand. His been studying Middle East for 30 years seems like to me he wasted 30 years to push his own opinionated narrative even tho there is no where in the Islamic history point to what he even said remotely. Dan is not credible at all. How can someone that claims to study for 30 years get something so small and that which is common knowledge on anyone that even knows the history a little will even tell you he doesn’t know what his talking about.
Another big mistake he made that anyone that knows the history of Islam knows his wrong and to be honest this guy talks out his ass. How can you make two three big mistakes within the first 5 mins of your video and then claim to have studied for 30years. What type of stupid academic do you have to be to study for 30 years only to get the basic information completely wrong. He claimed Makkah was known as the mother of cities. No where was that claim ever made and also there is no other non Muslims academic that even makes that claim except Dan. Every person from history or any academic that studied Islam will tell you it was a town of tribes, a village of tribes. The city of Makkah was known to be a place of tribes not a place which was mother of cities. What a outlandish stupid claim where did he even get this information from. Not once does he provide any evidence where it was called that. Everyone knows the city of Makkah was full of tribes that ruled the city. It was a city of tribes a village of tribes. So how can he make many mistakes in the first 5 mins of the video that is meant to be basic knowledge and his somehow the only to make these claims. Bruh the funny thing is how many people are so stupid that they would listen to what he says and they would just believe, they won’t even check to see wether what he said is true or not. Man how low can the human intellect go. People no days are just too stupid and easily swayed and manipulated
Mother of all cities and no archeological evidence not a single building or inscription
at 11:33 minutes a wrongly translated Hadith
حَدَّثَنَا خَالِدُ بْنُ مَخْلَدٍ، حَدَّثَنَا سُلَيْمَانُ بْنُ بِلاَلٍ، حَدَّثَنِي يَحْيَى بْنُ سَعِيدٍ، سَمِعْتُ عَبْدَ اللَّهِ بْنَ عَامِرِ بْنِ رَبِيعَةَ، قَالَ قَالَتْ عَائِشَةُ أَرِقَ النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم ذَاتَ لَيْلَةٍ فَقَالَ " لَيْتَ رَجُلاً صَالِحًا مِنْ أَصْحَابِي يَحْرُسُنِي اللَّيْلَةَ ". إِذْ سَمِعْنَا صَوْتَ السِّلاَحِ قَالَ " مَنْ هَذَا ". قِيلَ سَعْدٌ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ جِئْتُ أَحْرُسُكَ. فَنَامَ النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم حَتَّى سَمِعْنَا غَطِيطَهُ. قَالَ أَبُو عَبْدِ اللَّهِ وَقَالَتْ عَائِشَةُ قَالَ بِلاَلٌ أَلاَ لَيْتَ شِعْرِي هَلْ أَبِيتَنَّ لَيْلَةً بِوَادٍ وَحَوْلِي إِذْخِرٌ وَجَلِيلُ فَأَخْبَرْتُ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم.
One night the Prophet (ﷺ) was unable to sleep and said, "Would that a righteous man from my companions guarded me tonight." Suddenly we heard the clatter of arms, whereupon the Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Who is it?" It was said, "I am Sa`d, O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! I have come to guard you." The Prophet (ﷺ) then slept so soundly that we heard him snoring. Abu `Abdullah said: `Aisha said: Bilal said, "Would that I but stayed overnight in a valley with Idhkhir and Jalil (two kinds of grass) around me (i.e., in Mecca)." Then I told that to the Prophet (ﷺ) .
Translator qoute Mecca from himself
This documentary is magnificent. I wonder any missing information about Muhammad's migration to Medina?
You Should Know Now … That « Koran » have Nothing « Divine » 😵💫
This is a big mistake, seek the truth, let the truth set you free, the Quran is the truth.
sorry « Yusuf » but I don’t think so … even for « masjid haram » looks like there is a big mistake bro …….
During Prophet (Peace be Up On Him) times there was treaty happened between kuffar of Makkah and Prophet (Peace be Up On Him) in place called Hudebiyah.. That place is between Madinah and Makkah... And Prophet (Peace be Up On Him) and his Companions were travelling for Umrah from Madinah to Makkah....
So if Makkah is Patra as per Dan... Then there should be place called Hudebiyah between Madinah and Patra..
Can anyone knows about that place? Who is considering the Patra as Makkah..
Petra is the real Mecca : Al Tabari mentionned that Mecca was near by people called The Amalikites and according to the Bible the Amalikites lived near by Petra in Mount Seir, here he mentionned in this document : muslim-library.com/books/2019/05/en_Tabari_Volume_02.pdf (page 73) : '' At last they reached Mecca, which at that time was nothing but acacia trees, mimosa, and thorn trees, and there was a people called the Amalekites outside Mecca and its surroundings. ''
All historian brothers i know one mosque in India which is petra facing and they offer prayers on daily basis till date
I belive u Dan
You should not 😆
Masjid Qiblatain was built when RasuluLLah Muhammad s.a.w was still alive ❣️ It means, Ka'bah @ Makkah had been existed already 🤔 It means, RasuluLLah did his Hajj in Makkah 🕋 How about the story of moving the black stone from Petra to Makkah? What year? 🤔
The great temple in petra Is the Kaaba
Arafat is the external fence of the Kaaba
Inside the Kaaba there is a fountain of Safa and the fountain of Marwa
The fountain of Safa is used for ablution
The fountain of marwa is used for drink
yes, I agree with you that the Great Temple is original ka'bah, I have many evidences based on Azraqi bookAkhbar Makkah.
and mount arafat is Jabal Harun now, because it is near Wadi Arabah or Arava (Arafat ?)
@@anwardjunaedy5722 prove it that the Great Temple is the original Kaaba from Azraqi's book
@@salmanhossin Please read my other comment about the pillar. Another finding I found is about the pit in the kabah, if you have the book (Akhbar Makkah), please read on the Page 249, that said ... they took HUBAL (statue) out, which was on the JUBB (arabic) or PIT/CISTERN (english) ... If you have Petra Great Temple book by Joukowsky it is explained in detail that Petra Great Temple has Cistern which the pagan put their big statue on the cistern. Nothing we find this finding on the "Ka'bah" in saudi. I am still preparing video to show many findings to prove Petra is true Makkah, hope end of this year I finished it.
@@anwardjunaedy5722 how about the smaller rectangular or trapezoid shaped structure? Dan claims that the sacrificial altar is the original Kaaba. Any ideas on that and why there is such a discrepancy in the dimensions provided by Azraqi and the Great Temple of Petra?
Without prejudice, I conclude the following
(a) DG acknowledge the existence of Prophet Mohamed saw and Islam
(b) Issue is the location of the area labelled as Mecca ie where the prophet lives. DG contend that based on historical "evidence" and "archaeological findings" the actual location of Mecca was in Petra. Unfortunately, no documentation exists in the Romans/Byzantine Empire Collection that Mecca exists in Petra despite being 150miles from Jerusalem. It was the Romans that concurred with Petra in 106AD and name it "Arabia Petraea" They continued to rule over the city for more than 250 years until the middle of the fourth century A.D. when an earthquake destroyed many of its buildings. The Byzantines eventually took control of the region and governed Petra for some 300 years. (ie until circa 600AD). This means that they would have records of Mohamed, Mecca and Ka'abah if it is in Petra
(c) The movie uses 2 unknown Arabic Christians to support DG's findings. This is an attempt to show Arabic Muslims agree with him.
(d) He was using Al-Tabari books as references. The fact shows that Al Tabari lives 839-923AD ie over 200 years after the prophet died means that his collections are based on 3rd party statements which are hard to be corroborated. Like Plato records, it has to be taken with great caution (a pinch of salt). Similarly when it comes to Al-Bukhari Hadith
(e) Had indeed the Prophet been a Nabatean (and not Arab), the early Quran would be written in Aramaic and not Arabic. This is confirmed by the Birmingham scripture on an animal skin in Arabic that has been carbon-dated to the time of the Prophet. Watch: th-cam.com/video/jowQond7_UE/w-d-xo.html
(f) Ka'abah being rebuilt and moving from one location to another may be true. The question is move from where to where? It is unlikely from Petra. Rebuilding is a norm due to the ravages of time. We have seen ancient buildings degenerate over time.
(g) Location of Hubaidiyah based on literature and treaty of Hubaidiyah which correlates to the present-day location of Mecca
(h) In the early part of the documentary (39-41), references were made to Al Bukhari's hadith as a supporting argument but in a later part, you questioned the validity of the Hadith that was written over 200 years of the prophet's death. Isn't this ironic as you would use the Hadith when it favours you?
Albukhari 26: 645 as selectively chosen www.iium.edu.my/deed/hadith/bukhari/026_sbt.html
Albukhari 3:891 as found in many references is different from what you have given in the documentary. Example: www.iium.edu.my/deed/hadith/bukhari/050_sbt.html
(i) Civil war (fitna) (Year 680-692):
Quote,"The Second Fitna was a period of general political and military disorder and civil war in the Islamic community during the early Umayyad caliphate. It followed the death of the first Umayyad caliph Mu'awiya I in 680 and lasted for about twelve years. The war involved the suppression of two challenges to the Umayyad dynasty, the first by Husayn ibn Ali, as well as his supporters including Sulayman ibn Surad and Mukhtar al-Thaqafi who rallied for his revenge in Iraq, and the second by Abd Allah ibn al-Zubayr.
The roots of the civil war go back to the First Fitna. After the assassination of the third caliph Uthman, the Islamic community experienced its first civil war over the question of leadership, with the main contenders being Ali and Mu'awiya. Following the assassination of Ali in 661 and the abdication of his successor Hasan the same year, Mu'awiya became the sole ruler of the caliphate. Mu'awiya's unprecedented move to nominate his son, Yazid, as his heir sparked opposition and tensions soared after Mu'awiya's death"
(j) Muslims do not pray towards any city but rather face the Kaabah. If indeed the Kaabah was relocated, then Muslim's prayer direction remains unchanged ie facing Kaabah
(k) I have, via email proof of your mistake on an early mosque in Malaysia facing petra. You admitted to the mistake. How is it you can make such a mistake? Are there any other mistakes you made?
(l)Al Tabri's historical rendition is available online: www.kalamullah.com/Books/The%20History%20Of%20Tabari/Tabari_Volume_18.pdf
For the year 70 - There are 2 parts
(FEBRUARY 9, 669-JANUARY 28, 670) and ( JANUARY 29, 670-JANUARY 17, 671)
Total 28 pages and not few lines
(m) By DG's own findings and by Islamic records and Quranic verses (Surah al-Baqarah, 2:144), the direction of Qibla changed towards Mecca from Jerusalem during the prophet's time while living in Madinah. This remains until today. Isn't this proof enough that Mecca in ancient times is where it is today?
The evidence is overwhelming that DG's is wrong
Which prophets speak of the Kaaba? This is pagan worship.
All of Muhammad's prophets are from Judaism.
@@damarisclementino7459 All Jewish sourced text is from heretical Hebrew sects or heterodox Aramaic texts existing after the alleged lifetime of the alleged prophet.
You should WakeUp 🥂 masjid haram is not what you believe to be … sorry dude
Mecca moved to America .
The first Masjid in Madina is Masjid Quba, I wonder about its Qiblat? 🤔
And Masjid Qiblatain, surely after Masjid Quba, right? 🤔 Logically, Masjid Quba's Qiblat should face the same direction with the first Qiblat of Masjid Qiblatain, right? 🤔
I wonder about the year gap between the first Masjid: Quba vs Moving Qiblat to Ka'bah at Makkah? 🤔
I would love to see Mr. Gibson collaborate with Mel from Sneakers Corner.
are you teenager, tee hee, Speakers Corner.
Wasn't Petra under Byzantine rule the time of Muhammed?
So where did prophet Muhammad perform tawwaf in petra and where is the well of zamzam in petra.
He discusses these geographies in subsequent videos. They all make sense according to the Hadith references and descriptions. Watch his you tube videos and he covers these issues as well as the motivation to move the Kaaba to its current location for safety.
Thing is zam zam is not mentioned in the Quran but Allah says he left nothing out of the book. Study the Quran alone.
Ma Sha Allah..
So, is it about the black stone or not?
Which is the first Qiblat? 🤔
What about the flying stone in Palestine ? 🤔
Plz don, t mix up shorts texts from Hadith to support your research. it is against ethics of Research.
All blessings to Dan 💝
at 37:23 minutes, dirt is mixed with cultivated land soil
Can you make another documentary on how to buy subscribers and reviews for one's channel?
They face Petra because they are Nabatean temples not mosques. Before Abd Al Malik there were no Muslims in any modern sense. It’s the Abbassids who created Mecca as a holy city of Islam
🤔 if you would be correct many more buildings should point to Petra including pre Islamic ones (not the case) . Hence your theory contradicts the data.
Hi Mr. Dan waiting for your videos
Is this an updated documentary?
This version omits the description of the dimensions of the old kaaba from early islamic sources. It also omits the comparison with the ruined structure in front of the Temple of Dushera in Petra whose measurements are in accord with the same islamic sources. Perhaps Dan is in the process of changing his mind based on newer archaeological findings in Petra, more than likely the huge platform area they found by satellite in 2016.
I want to know how the Muslims react to this non fictional documentary?
well we are laughing .. where is Zam Zam? and during ISLAM compass is not yet created so its natural that mosque in the past are not accurate. and yes the first qibla is Jerusalem and its change by the prophet muhammad..
@KingTaupCreatives you don't need a compas to figure out north, south, east and west. There is a massive directional difference between Mecca and Petra.
There was a stream in Petra . It's in the film.You should watch carefully.@@KingTaupCreatives
How about spring water zam zam? It is said that this water is from Mecca. Was the original spring water wasn't from Mecca, but from Petra???
thing is zam zam not in Quran and Allah says in Quran he left nothing out of the book.
@@sule2318 Please give reference that zam zam is not in the quran?
If you are Muslim, you know that Muslims hold Quran and Hadist. Just like how Jews use Tanakh and Talmud. As well as, Christians' Old Testament and New Testament. @@sule2318
There was a stream in Petra during the time of the prophet.You should watch carefully.
Dan Gibson,
The sacred city and your other videos are extremely interesting and I believe do show how much work you have put in to come to your conclusions..
I am absolutely fascinated by the archeological evidence you have shown in your 30+ years of study..
My question..
I have reviewed images of the inside of the holy Kaaba in which it can be seen the direction of the prophet Muhammad (PBUH) prayed to which is marked with white tiling on the floor, which I believe to be the wall of between the Yemini and Syrian corners, opposite the door of the holy Kaaba (Image attached).
Is this significant.
If you can help to explain or conclude and idea for this 'direction' I would be grateful,
Many thanks
There are videos in Petra Jordan where you can see the old Kaaba. It also has a Yemeni Corner
Why do you say .. the « holly » kaba ? What is « masjid haram » for you ? …..
@@OmarOharris petra was not « Arabic » made and it’s obvious that this is not Petra …. The holy city 🤔🤔🤔
@@TohouBohou what do you mean by Arabic made?!? P(F)itrah ..? Jordan is the land of the Hashemite Kingdom.. the land of the prophet Muhammad from the Hashemite clan in the Qurayshi tribe.
My brother IQra
open your eye do you think Petra looks « Arabic » 😳😳😳 it became … maybe but the style looks grecoroman … WakeUp 🥂 it’s Obvious
I think, if surveyed, the Temple Period tombs arround Jerusalem, point to the Temple being where the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem is today, not on the Temple Mount. I think there is other evadence, if looked for.
For the Gibson's Kaaba in Petra ...
There is no and never existed a Kaaba in Petra. The Gibson’s Kaaba is only an old roman sacrificial altar. This structure is well identified by a French archeologist team, directed by Françcois Renel, who work 20 years in Petra. Also, the Department of Antiquities of Jordan approved their studies. Gibson never show and will never show any paper of this studies. No archeologist approves Gibson’s hypothesis.
Gibson base is finding on Al-Azraqi measurement of the Kaaba. But those don’t fit on the structure in Petra. So in an other video, Gibson try to trick people by showing an unclear image of his so-called Kaaba and stick the Al-Azraqi measurement on it. Not honest at all!
But Gibson forgot that he said that Al-Azraqi destroyed the Kaaba ‘’to the ground’’ and also took off its foundation stones. So, nothing suppose to be left of the Kaaba structure in Petra. But his so-called Kaaba in Petra has a remain of stones of 2.5m high! So, the Al-Azraqi’s report doesn’t fit with Gibson story.
In Petra, the structure is a block full of stones that you can just walk on it. But the real Kaaba is made of 4 walls that you can enter in. Different structures!
Could you give your reference that it is an old roman altar? Even that would not contradict the statements of Dan Gibson since the Kaaba could have been built on the structure of a roman altar (which would not have been used anymore at that time). Also the fact that the Kaaba was raised to the ground doesn't contradict the fact that some basic structure would be left (can you give a reference for your claim here"). Obviously the Kaaba would have been built upon these foundation structures so I dont
see your problem with the four walls. Finally, you claim that Dan Gibsons measurements are not correct where do you get that info from?
DG gives some reference but I agree that it would be better if he would more systematically make his sources available.
@@hans471 It looks like for you this Gibson’ documentary is 100% true without any doubt.
At the beginning of the video (0:45), it is saying that ‘’every day 5 times a day they face a black rock …’’ For us Muslims when we hear that we know that’s from a liar because we don’t face the black rock, there is nothing in the religion or in the Quran that we have to face the black rock 5 times a day to pray. We face the Kaaba not because of the black rock.
I did my research on the Gibson’s Kaaba. I saw his video and read his writing on the subject. Also I searched what others (like archeologists) say about this supposed Kaaba in Petra. And all say the same, it’s an old roman altar and find great documentation. You should do your own research.
For measurements of the Kaaba, you should compare Gibson’s measurement and archeologists’ measurement.
Now it’s late in my country, I will give you links tomorrow if you are still interested.
@@roukayajannah5111 So you have not answered any of my questions but instead resort to personal attack? That is not very convincing. This makes your claims dubious...
@@hans471 I just made a comment with the links but now it's gone! It looks like the page doesn't accept the links!!! Sorry, I will try in an other way tomorrow
@@hans471 My reference is the document: New Excavations in the Qasr al-Bint Area at Petra
It is said on page 2: ‘’The great sacrificial altar …This formerly Nabatean building went to several transformation in Roman times, …’’.
Because the altar was transformed in Roman times, it is said it is a roman altar.
Dan Gibson is great. I wish he would post more videos.
No he is akbar 😆
Do you have a Turkish version?
Hmm.. 🤔 Becca in Petra Vs Mecca in Saudi Arabia 🤔 AbdAllah ibn Zubair moved the black stone from Petra to Saudi Arabia; is it the reason to change the name from Becca to Mecca? 🤔 But it happened after RasuluLLah's death, right? 🤔 So, we need to check the direction of Qiblat in Masjid Quba and masjid Qiblatain before renovated ❣️ Or was there political interest in renovating those Masjids after AbdAllah ibn Zubair moved to Mecca and rebuilt rebuilt Ka'bah in Mecca ? 🤔 And was it AbdAllah ibn Zubair who gave the name to empty land that he chose to live in: Mecca [almost the same as Becca] ? 🤔 The empty land near Madina the big city and civilization! And using the Blackstone & Ka'bah [the house of Blackstone] as the source of the income or tool for exchange 🤔 since pilgrimage is the part of habit's from ancient culture ❤
Allahu'alam...
The next question:
- The Blackstone ? 🤔
- Zamzam water ? 🤔
Allahu'alam.
Salam Dan, I hope Muslims embrace your work so that it doesn't get tainted and misused for ideological purposes by so-called ex-Muslims. Disputes about qibla direction does not change the truth of Islam. And Allah says in the Quran, "It is not righteousness that ye turn your faces to the East and the West; but righteous is he who believeth in Allah and the Last Day and the angels and the Scripture and the prophets; and giveth wealth, for love of Him, to kinsfolk and to orphans and the needy and the wayfarer and to those who ask, and to set slaves free; and observeth proper worship and payeth the poor-due. And those who keep their treaty when they make one, and the patient in tribulation and adversity and time of stress. Such are they who are sincere. Such are the Allah-fearing."
yazid Son was died after months not 40 days. and he did not send his whole army to defeat ibn Zubair
Hey you soothe sayer the fertile city you talk about is medina Mecca remains barren!…
what a story ?/. if Ibne Zubair build new Kabaa then umaid still remain in Spain sin 1400 AD. why they did not build mosques to Petra ??
The book explains what the Umayyad did in Spain. They used a different Qibla. Not Mecca, not Petra.
The man who brought down Islam
As an agnostic person, And I'm arab I want to tell you what you did is a total failure to understand the Arabic language, and all the conclusions you came up with are highly doubted and not accurate, I don't believe in religions in general as I said I'm agnostic and I was a Muslim but I left Islam after good research, and it's really difficult for non-Arabs to understand this religion and this area.
What *exactly* do you take issue with?
Thank you, that was quick!
I have no doubt you have been used of our Heavenly Father to reach many trapped in the false religion of muhammadanism, for Christ Jesus. Thank you Brother for your diligent research and service to the true Faith. Welcome home to Canada, live long and prosper!!! ; )
🙏 love you sir
It is called P A L E S T I N E. Correct your text if you don't mind!
Where are the remains of Walls ?? any little clue ??
Trying to fit Thania in Petra forcefully. Petra could be city of Preachers but not tribes
So Sunni Shia for past 1400 years didn’t know where Mecca was
But this new white and shining armour
Found out the truth
This documentary is pure nonsense
They didn't because the Abbassids and their Chikhs of Sultans from Bukhara who are Shia (meaning don't follow Sunna) wrote the Sunna, so that Sunni believe in the fake Hejaz Mecca
You should not underestimate human stupidity.
LOL.. where is Zam Zam? and during ISLAM compass is not yet created so its natural that mosque in the past are not accurate. and yes the first qibla is Jerusalem and its change by the prophet muhammad
The compass was created in the 3rd century before Christ, as of the 7th century A.D. it experienced advancements, and its more evident when we grasp the fact that the first msoques are facing towards Petra and not Mecca.
This documental has a lot of sense, other historias have also pointed out the same.
@@valentino3228 lol do you think that A barefooted Arab knew how to used compass back then? The Arab are using the stars to determined the location which tend to be ina accurate. Lol
And the magnetic compass was discovered as early as 11th to 12th century not 7th century ....know facts first.
@@KingTaupCreatives Tend to be inaccurate pointing towards the same direction (Petra)?
The magnetic compass, which is used for navigation, was invented in China during the Han Dynasty, around the 2nd century BC. It revolutionized maritime exploration and navigation. The compass used a magnetized needle to point toward the Earth's magnetic north pole, allowing sailors to determine their direction even when they couldn't see the stars.
@@valentino3228 Lol.the first magnetic compass is discovered by the Europeans in 11 and 12th century the chinese though discovered the compass however the Arab and the chineses was far from each other so the possibility of Chinese and arab to meet is not the usuall... lol
The fisrt Mosque was Mosque Nabawi and its Qibla is towards jErusalem and later change to Mecca ..other mosque around the world during early times is not that accurate in finding Qibla because no tools to help them to determine the precise location of Qibla/Mecca BUT now majority of Mosque are all pointing to Mecca with the Help of Gps.
And No Petra is a cursed place as according to the Prophet Muhammad and the Quran and the Hadith never Mentioned Petra as Qibla so its Funny that Qibla is the Petra as what this soo called expert are saying lol.
Petra itu disebutkan dlm Al Qur`an, mrk itu mengukir gunung-gunung sebagai tempat tinggal dst. Jk Mekkah itu di petra tentunya bangunan itu selalu disebut-sebut sbg tempat tinggal dan orng kaya yg tinggal di bangunan itu. dan penentangannyapun pasti semakin keras thd Nabi. Spt di zaman Nabi Nuh, tapi kenyataannya tdk. Kenyataan tdk ada disebut-sebut dalam Al Qur`an. Jadi video ini disebut Bias konfirmasi, yaitu ada suatu tempat yaitu Petra kemudian dicocok-cocokanlah dg ciri-ciri dlm hadits itu. Pertanyaanya kenapa tdk di baghdad saja atau di Mesir atau di Palestina lbh hebat lagi, tempat asal Mekkah kan ada sungai ada pohon. Ada kesamaan ciri-ciri tempat, salahnya di mana. Padahal banyak tempat yg ciri-cirinya sama.Sama sekali tdk ilmiah. Justru anda jgn kaget 50 th lagi atau 100 thn lagi Mekkah/arab Saudi ditumbuhi rumput-runput dan pohon-pohon, Itulah salah satu tanda-tanda akhir zaman. Sekarang saya sdh kelihatan tanda-tandanya. Jadi mister Dan Gibson itu sdh ketinggalan zaman.
I am Muslim and studied archaeology but did not make it my career. I am glad I studied archaeology because it helps me look for the truth and not accept things at face value. I find your videos fascinating and instantly believe that there is much truth to what you say. The murder of Ali, Hasan and Husayn clearly shows Islam was hijacked and faced threats. When Muslims are burning copies of the Quran whilst trying to compile it and the members of ahl al bayat are being brutally murdered, it's clear something's not right. My spouse is descended from the Islamic prophet through Ali and Fatimah and I've seen the family tree but my in-laws say they don't like to mention it because pride is sinful. However, when I looked at the family tree it was clear that for several 100s of years, heirs were murdered. I believe people keep quiet about being related to the Prophet out of fearing for their life. I always wondered how many members actually survived but went into hiding after the prophet died. Karbala has always fascinated me. Are the remains of Imam Husayn really there in its entirety? The gathering for 10 muharram is larger than what we see in Mecca
Did you converted to 🙏
@@TohouBohou My family is Sunni. I am not Sunni or Shia. I am just Muslim. I don't believe everything in the Hadith because I think word of man can be corrupted. I follow the Quran and if I think something is good and not evil mentioned in hadith I will follow. I use my common sense.
@@blackglitter1474 If your not Muslim and your just lying it would be really shameful for you, im just saying...
@@RE-gf7lr if you are Muslim and can't stand up to the oppression within the Ummah that has been there from day 1 then that's shameful for you. just saying.. dont assume you know everything
at 39:04 how can an army surround a city in a valley from both side. how they managed to go to other side in mountains. there should be word besieged.
correlate this point at 40:47
What you fail to mention is that islam is the offspring of what was called Christian Arianism. Mohammed's teaching were in perfect synchronisation with Arianism.
Al Bukhari is NOT a source.
In early Indian history of trade and travel, Indians travelled to what is geographically Jordan and Syria to for not only trade but for pilgrimages. That gives me a hunch that it was Hinduism everywhere in the world and then the break away Semitic religions evolved from them over time. Every new religion has had one direction. To go from a Matriarchal belief system to a patriarchal one. Drifted away from a system that revered nature and fertility to one that demanded loyalty to some unnatural masculine egotistic edict giver. ....and I am so upset that the Africans who probably still had their fascinating, natural and original systems, never got down to writing them and then straight away got colonized and got converted to Christianity or Islam!
Haleluyaa..
do u believe muhammad was from petra?if yes then he is clearly mentioned in isaiah 42
@@mewying5184 muhamad was not a name bro..
Prophet Dan Gibson comes to correct the error. Congratulations
Hajj is Hagg and Marwa is Moryah ! So … do you comprehend ?!? 🤔😳🤪
True genuines
again wrong referrence. Ibne zubair did not demolish Kabaa. it was demolished by attack by Yazid forces/ Syrian Forces
Dan's videos about Mecca look like a loud and stinky wet fart that makes loud noises and smells like poops but after a short period of time it goes away and people forget it was ever once existed!!
But you didn’t address any of the points he made in the video with counterpoints though 🥺😢
@@danthemanjkms here:
th-cam.com/video/foCfKYFuakI/w-d-xo.html
@untilit... - You haven't got anything sensible to say so you show us how childish you are.
you know you ube translate is.... please in indo subs
The alaouite dynasty or alawi dynasty
Alhamdulillah this video only strengthens our belief in the truth of Islam. In Islam we only submit to Allah, as the Lord of Heaven and Earth. When Allah ordered the Messenger of Allah to change the direction of the Qibla from the Al-Aqsa Mosque in Palestine to the Grand Mosque in Mecca, we followed. In fact, for the prophet Muhammad pbuh, it is literally the opposite direction. We do not worship the black stone, but we worship Allah the Creator. This video is nothing but to strengthen the evidence that place, time, and people are not absolute. What we are doing on this Earth is just following the right directions, Al Quran Surah Al A'raf (7:29)
4
instead of change directions, why not use the direction where the Sun or the Moon is rising in that day? it is more efficient and not confusing than pointing to specific building in far far far away. lmao.
U just typical ignorant moslem🤣🤣🤣, to be a good moslem, u cant use yr brain. 🤣🤣🤣
@@feronicastylinson1392Only smart people and have brains will choose Islam
@@andyshantyoprabowo2002 wakwkwkw.... U trully a brainless man, just tell me how many nobel in science that had won by moslem? 🤣🤣🤣
Muhammad is fiction, there is no elephant war against mecca. Thats only claim in quran.
Show me the proof that the war really exist! So if the war never happend, the mecca also never known before 740ad, meaning muhamad never been born there also. 😆
Muhammad was in her mother womb for 4 years, as a doctor, do you believe such BS? 😁
Sorry....muslims do not face the Black Stone. It's the Kaaba.
Islam is from the beginning of time and it will exist till the end of time.
again at 44:00 tried to manipulate mount Hira with Cave Hira
« Mekka » « Koran » « Islam » it’s a Frabrication ! (From Judéo-christianismes) Stop trying to find truth where there is not ! …
We don't pray towrds the black rock, we towrds the direction of the ka'na structure.
This ie real proper ganda at its best. Not that normal ganda Christians come up with.
it's propaganda, not proper ganda. Madrassa chaap
@@anshtripathi7035 you obviously have no sense of humour!
@@ohfft ok, go back to worshipping your pdf file Mohammad
@anshtripathi7035 you are a deluded lost soul, no one worships Mohammad, your comment just shows how ignorant you really are!
You say in this documentary that lack of archaeological findings in Makkah proves your theory that Makkah was not the true place of the Kaaba and Islam
However
In the Quran Allah swt tells us that this was the first time a messenger had been sent to this community and their city had never been destroyed
This is why we would not expect archaeological findings which are typically associated with cities that were destroyed through some calamity
On the other hand Petra is a city that has been destroyed and so could not be the birth place of Islam
Beyond that Allah knows best