I legit just googled Hawkman villains and the only one I recognized was Hath-set cuz of JLU. Also I just realized Shadowthief isnt intended to b a Hawkman villain oof
Aquaman has thick skin and the jokes from his teammates are from a place of friendship and appreciation. Hawkman is the asshole with the bruised ego that needs somebody to look down on and the team isn't having it.
Whenever Hawkman is in a DC thing he's there to serve as cannon fodder to show off how strong the villain is without killing an actually important character
@@TheQuantumWave his power is to get his butt kicked in such a manner that the villain still carries weight and threat after the equivalent of kicking cat.
_"To the members of the Justice League,_ _Hawkman tried to join our team, to get revenge on you as a super villain. We don't want him, you can have him back._ _Sincerely,_ _The Legion of Doom"_
aquaman can summon some pretty terrifying creatures, like giant squids and great white sharks. hawkman flies and has a mace, and one of the worst forms of extended life.
@@cageybee7221 ''aquaman can summon some pretty terrifying creatures, like giant squids and great white'' Wonder how useful talking to fish would be when your not in the water maybe they can flop around for you ig
@@cageybee7221 But 90 % of times the crimes apen outside of the what he gona then matter fact what he gona do if the sharck just decides tho take a vecaiton and just not show up what he gona do ?
Resurrection and reincarnation really isn't anything special in DC and marvel more so in DC since you literally have a guy who main shitck is dying and coming back to life every week
Hawkman has the ability to fly, enhanced strength to some degree, near instant healing of wounds, and some iterations of him gave him the ability to talk to birds, power to move large objects with anti gravity, and detect radiation. A support hero maybe, but he was always kind of a specialist that could do things the others could not. What he lacked in the extremes of superman, he made up for in some diverse skill sets. Also, he is a bird guy. That is neat.
Flying, superhuman strength, instant healing , telepathy or communication ability. That's sounds what Aquaman and MM does. Justice League already has two founding members who does it all why would they need another.
Hawkman is such an enigma. I've seen him in so many DC related stuff including shows, games, and comic book appearances and still know next to nothing about him. He's always just sorta... there...
He has a billion different origins, and not like the Blue Beetle, where it's different people He has many origins in the mainline canon associated with the same person
The idea of the team playfully making fun of Aquaman and him taking it on The chin knowing that it’s coming from a place of love is such an adorable idea to me
@@jacextreme6432 I have a very reliable source. Granted, he's an emotionally stunted meathead man child douche dealing with ptsd and a lot of daddy issues who wears a helmet that looks like chromo toilet seat, but I trust his intel.
Hawkman and everyone besides Wonder Woman who used to be on the Justice Society just kinda got moved up to JL as a free promotion...if they didn't just vanish into obscurity.
@@Game_Hero Honestly, that would make it even funnier. Hawkgirl and Wonder Woman looking at each other speaking in non voice actress and everyone totally being cool with it because...I mean, it's HAWKGIRL.
Then Solid JJ's skills as a writer would be wetted by Adult Swim's interference. Adult Swim isn't the end all be all of comedic animation it's fans make it out to be, with most of it's best properties having already, or are in the process of concluding. Or have peaked in quality.
@@pepperedash4424 Do you live under a rock? What about Smiling Friends? It was created by a couple of well known TH-camrs. It's received a lot of acclaim too. Haven't heard them complaining about Adult Swim interfering.
@@SorowFame Trial is a poor excuse for a system. If you don't want people taking justice into their own hands, then live in a place where the system does its job.
Batman asking Aquaman if he found Nemo on the way here can be passed as a harmless joke between buddies. Meanwhile, Hawkman straight-up calling him a stupid idiot bastard is just mean.
As someone who actually likes superheroes, these videos usually end up just making me more interested in genuinely learning about a character. Hawkman is someone who I've always seen on the Justice League and then never really cared enough to look into.
The 70% that nobody wants to live in and dump their literal shit uninterrupted. Respect to Aquaman and all but to paraphrase a certain idiom: he's the only fish in the pond.
@@AxleTrade I would still put Wonder Woman second. Flash can be straight up broken as well. But Aquaman is also powerful in his own right. He can easily 1v1 and beat any of the iconic Marvel heroes except Thor and Hulk. And even then, he can put up a good fight against Hulk underwater
@@LorianandLothric I don't know about that one, in some versions Hulk is just straight up immortal with super regeneration and durability and capable of planet busting. Honestly the only iconic marvel heroes he would probably beat are Captain America, Hawkeye (who might just straight up kill him immediately if he gets a shot), or Black Widow (same as hawkeye except guaranteed to try to kill). what the heck is he gonna do to Iron Man, who doesn't even hesitate to go straight for the kill on occasions, with his multi-million dollar technologies of mass destruction. He's literally a walking nuke with several PhDs.
What made Hawkman a reliable member of the team was the fact, apart from flight, above average strength and long winded reincarnation, his enth metal mace could combat magic, something even superman is vulnerable too, and him having skill in knowing out to fight with his mace gives him a leg up against magical villains
I like that Aquaman doesn't actually have any reactions to the jokes until Hawkman insults him, and then Aquaman just looks at him like "Dude, really?" And then at the end, when the team was apologizing, Aquaman was just like "it's all good" with a big smile to show he was a good sport about the humor. He seemed to understand they were just joking around with him, but glares at Hawkman since he could see Hawkman didn't understand it was a joke. SolidJJ needs to write his own cartoon or something. He's awesome at this.
Aquaman only cares about helping people in his own way, if he's not generally regarded as "cool" or "powerful" he dosen't mind. He knows he's useful but he also know that his main identity power a bit of a gimmick with limitation but still very helpful. If people have fun with that then whatever. He is unironically a true chad. He is secure in what he can do and know it helps and that what matters. but while he's ok with being the "shaggy" of the group. The important member that's also a bit comedic on the outlook. He won't tolerate nor reduce himself to other people sincere disrespect. Menawhile hawkman is scrambling for approval and to prove him himself. He is not secure in how he goes about helping people. Probably has something to do with the guilt of the dead on his mind.
Making your own show is a whole different ballpark than what he is doing here, he could definitely write for a pre-established show, and maybe work up to writing his own show.
For those who know nothing about Hawkman or are curious as to what he contributes: Back in the 60s and 70s, the JLA’s satellite was built using mostly Thanagarian technology, including teleporters, invisibility devices, radiometers, and anti-gravity devices in ships and flying cars. He was also the chief intelligence member of the team, being able to communicate with birds which could witness crimes and trail criminals, and often took most of monitor duty, the role Martian Manhunter took in the Justice League show (in the 60s, J’onn was essentially a backup Superman). He even had a global mind-reading device that he only used in emergency to learn the identities of his teammates so that they could assemble during a ban on heroes. Personality-wise, he was stoic and professional, which led to him often butting heads with the loud-mouthed cynical Green Arrow. He was best friends with the Atom, who he would call on the phone to bring to meetings since the Atom can travel through phone lines. He also often vouched for his wife, Hawkgirl, by bringing her along on adventures, insisting that Superman change the bylaws to allow her on the team, and taking time away from the team when she needed help.
Finally someone mentions the mace. I remember Hawk Girl knocking people out with that thing, but there’s spikes, so it looks a lot less gorey than it should. I always wondered if she had some hidden field or power that stopped the spikes from piercing, why the flipping mace then.
Hawkman makes sense to use it, his reincarnation powers means that he lived many different eras and so it's reasonable that he probably mastered the mace but... Not sure about hawkgirl.
This gets even funnier when you realize that Hawkgirl completely outshines Hawkman in the DC universe. Normally they'd have a male hero with a female counterpart (batgirl, supergirl, aquagirl, ect.) that feels like an offshoot of them; but in this case you've got Hawkgirl taking the center stage while Hawkman comes off as a male offshoot of HER.
Jesus Christ is lord. Please, take your salvation seriously. Read three books of the Bible at least. The first book of each testament and one you chose yourself. As you do practice forgiveness. That is important. To be forgiven we must forgive. It is mandatory.
@@DiegoErnestoTejadaZaldivar his origin has been unclear for so long whether if he was some kind of hawk alien from thanagar or the reincarnation of some egyptian prince guy so dc with their most recent hawkman run decided to just make it so "all of it is the right origin, it's just a bunch of reincarnations" he can be reincarnated at any point in time, past, present, or future even made him an ancient kryptonian in one of his past lives (or future lives in the past because that can apparently happen) so yeah real comic booky stuff
@@alchemistofsteel8099 I wouldn't say that exactly, shazam is still rather popular thanks to his frequent appearances in cartoons and the movies but he did become obscure in the brief period between the shut down of fawcett and his new home in dc if you wanna get to an extreme case of popular to literal who Joe palooka, the dude had a literal mountain named after and now I'm one of like 5 people on earth who actually read one of his comics
@@freshboy3968 exactly literally one of the reason of boxing became legal in some states, inspired thousands to join the millitary and had a mountain named after and nobody knows who he is
No but really, I get that the joke is that Aquaman is lame but I like to think that the JL acknowledge and actually respect him because he covers a large specialty that none of the other heroes can cover as well as he can. The ocean is 2/3's of the world and Aqua keeps track of all that, so while its funny to poke at him sometimes because he's not as useful on land as he is in the water, he's still a very core member to a group that wants to protect the *entire* world.
@@InfernosReaper facts like superman can go into space but the bottom of the ocean is much more pressurized so aquaman gotta have some really dense skin literally lol
The sad thing (to me here) is really really could have spun the reincarnation power into being useful. Where he points out that Batman or somebody trained for twenty to thirty years and has that much experience but Hawkman keeps getting new experience and training and remembers the countless Prior ones to have hundreds of years of experience
Depends on how that experience actually manifest into action Batman mastered hand to hand combat in lets say 20 or 30 years and thats all he needs to be effective at it 200 more years is unnecessary
Yet somehow in experience in fighting and stuff he still somehow loses to batman sometimes. And he doesn't have a lot of abilities batman has and batman has had way less time then him. I think Hawk man has bad time management with all that time but not knowing as many skills as batman and also his main skills are comparable to batman. He isn't really training up his skills every life time but after he learned his skills he just uses it and it naturally got better while Bruce actively trained his stuff and got that good that fast so if he did as much as batman in everylife then he'd be way better then batman and way smarter too then it'd be a question on why Bruce is on the team when hawkman is way better and has actual powers and batmans one power of being rich he also has so hawkman would be the one who's there with a supervillain and questioning what batman is doing for the team
Well it was never meant to be a power. It's backstory. But you're right, hawkman is known for being proficient with any weapon, science, and tactics in general. Plus being a detective himself.
The answer to "what he contributes" is basically "magic mace that stop magic good". So, in summary, the single most transferable trait possible of "I have this one weapon" is his only reason to be on the team other than a need for extra flying people.
Yeah, but Batman doesn’t use the Batarang to harm, he usually uses it to knock things out of people’s hand or destroy something, not directly at someone’s head. And even if he does like in the games, they are clearly not sharp enough to pierce skin
Honestly I don't blame them for ganging up on Hawkman. When Batman made a joke about Nemo, it was light hearted banter and the rest actually found it funny. Hawkman on the other hand went in and called Aquaman a "stupid idiot bastard" which is just straight up bullying that the others obviously didn't find funny So yeah, Hawkman deserved that
It's possible, at least in this parody, that Hawkman genuinely can't tell the difference between a lighthearted joke and bullying. Maybe he's socially inept. Maybe to him, the light hearted joke sounds just as mean as outright bullying. The others all have a good laugh at it, so Hawkman thinks that's ok. And since he can't tell the difference, to him, his add on is ok too. I mean, it's the sort of mistake i would make. It barely even registered to me how mean Hawkman's insult was. So maybe he's not trying to be mean, maybe he's just trying to fit in. Or maybe. Just maybe. Maybe one or both of us is putting too much thought into this
And then turned around at the end like, "Why are we always picking each other apart?" Seemed like you were fine with it when you weren't the target, bird boy. 😒
I love the idea of the Justice League or "Super Friends" being total BROS with each other, making fun of each other but still being true friends at the end of the day.
If Hawkman was written properly, it would show that he's the most experienced member of the team. Not just because he was on the JSA but because he literally has thousand of years of experience. He should be figuring out villain's plans faster than the others and setting up counters before he executes them. Having Batman having a plan for every eventuality is sort of silly he's a relative noob and wisdom takes time. He could guide the team when they travel to the past because he lived through many eras. If they weren't in one of his past cities he might have contacts to heroes of that era there.
This is straight out of the comics. There was a point where Hawkman would show up and start going nuts murdering things with his mace, and of the other heroes would ask who invited him. I don’t remember what comic it was in, I think it was around the beginning of flashpoint.
@@yodorr6249 flashpoint was a crossover event that reset the universe and started the New 52. And now that I think about it, I think it was from the Geoff Johns New 52 Aquaman “Return of the King” arc. Also Flashpoint isn’t some “marvel what if” alternate timeline, it’s about time travel. Go back to watching the movies and reading Wikipedia instead of trying to correct things you don’t get.
Well to quote from Peacemaker: "If you're a hero why don't you have any arch-nemesis?" "Cause all of them are six-feed under" Hawkman has a point there
I mean 2 of his big villains are a guy who also reincarnates, and a literal ghost. The third big one is also just a shadow. Killing them isn't exactly a feasible thing.
@@maninthetrenchcoat5603 How do you kill something that refuses to stay dead, is already dead, and will come back the second someone turns off a light? Answer: You can't.
@@captainlastreo5160 Then there's also just a lion man. You could kill that pretty easily by comparison. Copperhead isn't exactly a Hawkman guy, but I like to count him to balance out the distribution of villains. Same goes for Kite Man, who did fight the Hawks in his second appearance.
You know Green Lantern’s got a point. Being hit with Hawkman’s mace is like being hit with a planet. Also in modern comics Hawkman can “reincarnate immediately” which means he is pretty much Wolverine.
@@mightybeastofbengal Kinda, except now it’s more like what Flash described. He gets knocked down, and gets right back up. Some modern versions have him reincarnate as a completely new appearance/person, except he stays in his prime age and maintains his memories, so it’s really just a style choice.
You know you're a lame character when your female counterpart, who was created after you and almost no one knew about until she took your place in a tv show, is SIGNIFICANTLY more popular buy an incalculable margin
Yeah. When I first got this video randomly recommended to me I was like "hawkman? There's a hawkMAN!? I thought the Justice League had a Hawkwoman...". So, y'know, it made the video better because I also didn't remember him.. actually, I didn't knew he existed, but same thing :v
I mean this argument can b said abt a lot of things. When ur DC and u want representation ur going to either make a character u alrdy have shine in the spotlight or make a new character and I prefer the first option. Ofc this does make bigger problems like Hal Jordan v John Stewart cuz every1 loves both of them but storyboard writers keep trying to make the other one up each other in founding position in the JL. This case is Hawkgirl v Hawkman and uhhhhh there arent many females on the team; albeit I think the option was adding any1 for the 7th spot and they rlly wanted a female so my argument is kinda in vain so it was never abt adding a bird person to the team they just wanted a girl
Given how Hawkgirl is in comics. It's less so that Hawkman is lame in comparison than it is that the Justice League cartoon actually bothered to take those characters and actually give them a coherent, easy to follow background and story that is of good quality. Secret alien agent who infiltrates Earth to gather Intel and prepare for conquest who grows attached to her comrades and the world she has defended only forced to betray her friends, betray her species to do what she believes is right and goes under self exile for her guilt is far more compelling than what they got in the comics.
Batman provides the other justice league members their incomes. Except Clark. I know this meme is dead but I think he still owes him $16 from 5 years ago
Tell me that there aren't legions of people willing to kiss Elon M.'s butt for a small chance he will be interested in them. Being rich IS a superpower.
This is rather heartwarming, actually. Aquaman just doing his job (and memes influenced by the Superfriends cartoon aside, he *is* a powerful superhero), and other members of the team really noticing and appreciating that... it's just nice. As silly as Solid jj's videos are, they are always weirdly in character for whoever features in them. I'd feel more sorry for Hawkman if not for the implication that he clubs petty criminals to death. Y'know, almost immediately after mentioning he stopped a *purse snatcher* he reasons that there's nothing wrong with taking out his enemies permanently. Not a great look, dude. (not to mention, immediately going to "you stupid idiot bastard" is not exactly on the same level as relatively good-natured jokes about Aquaman.)
I feel like he should rebrand. I think the name ''Aquaman" is holding him back. It sounds lame. Maybe something more bad ass, like "Aquarion", "Ocean Master" or "Sea Lord". Even just his name, "King Arthur" sounds better.
There was a point in time where Hawkman and Hawkgirl were merged into one being to fix continuity errors in the DC universe... They fumbled that so much that writers didn't want to use him due to how complicated they made their history.
Aquaman is my Dad's Favorite Hero, he's unaware why everyone hates on him haha. I always tell him it's because of an old children's show he did (Aquaman and friends), he got bad rep from it. Although I'm not aware of the true reason behind the meme.
“You’re hitting people with medieval weaponry.” Okay, Lantern, that’s kinda unfair considering we have Batman over here with razor-sharp boomerangs that could easily kill someone just as easily.
The basic batarang is just a boomerang, which as a weapon existed throughout history pretty much alongside the mace as a weapon if not predating it. If you call a mace archaic and obsolete, you’d have to call the batarang the same thing. As for Batman basically being a ninja, though, that’s a good point. But how do we know that Hawkman doesn’t train himself to do the same thing and make sure he doesn’t fatally injure a person?
@@justin2308 well the batarang is pretty versatile. It could he used for just about almost any situation. I mean, he can be able to use it for non lethal situations like disarming a guy, cutting rope. His weapons can potentially be lethal but with his training he can turn his bat shaped ninja throwing stars into a tool for pacification instead of death. (And also he had to like dump out possibly a million dollars to custom make those things.) The mace however is pretty much lethal in every sense of the word. The mace had been specifically made to ruin some poor schmuck's day. Not only is hawkman's the typical big ball with spikes all over it but with his strength and warrior mentality. He is well sorted for something as war instead of being a hero.
You know, to me, Hawkman is the first thing I think when someone says superhero. He's strong, he can fly, he has a weapon that is not a gun, he has some sort of animal thing going on. He's every superhero ever distilled into one. But also he's an ancient egyptian pharaoh that might have been an alien that reincarnates across space and time and universes
@@Blueberryyymuffin Basically, except he doesn't have a brand new body, his soul just gets transferred to one of his ancestors and he retains his memories, which he uses to find Hawkgirl (who doesn't have her memories) and sleep with her before his ancient servant that also reincarnates kills them and starts the cycle over again
@@richardsphd Where did you get like 90% of this information from? he doesn't get transferred to his ancestors, that would mean he was going backwards in time, not forwards. Also, Hawkgirl sometimes remembers, its not like she just never has any memories. Also, they don't have to sleep together or anything, they can reincarnate into any people
Would love to see the villainous version of this. Just because of the disconnect of one set of baddies being "clown" and another being "baby that was torturously made into the ultimate lifeform".
He's kind of like Angel from the X-Men. No one knows what to do with him either. He got turned into one of Apocalypse's horse men but I don't think his story went much further than that.
Here's the thing about brutally efficient super heroes. It's all cool till you realize there is a super powered serial killer obliterating petty criminals' heads
@@cadebrummer2067 Is it? I checked the description and didn't see any links or anything so I genuinely couldn't tell if swagger is doing the voice or the actual dude who does every other voice
Green lantern: "noo, you cant just use a mace against villains!" Aquaman: *impales random thug with trident* Green arrow: *shoots arrow through the bad guy's brains*
It's funny how back in the days they had the spectre and the phantom stranger on they're team who are both multiversal level entities that can literally destroy the multiverse entirely but instead choose to hang around with these guys togheter fighting goofy villains
Hawk man is sorta used for very specific threats. In recent years he’s mostly used for things relating to “Inth metal” but yeah he’s really meant for ancient threats since he’s immortal. Aqua man however as I’ve always said is just specialized for the ocean. Which is 99% of the worlds livable space. It’s filled with pirates and has its own group of villains. Plus Aqua-man has an army and a kingdom on top of actually pretty substantial powers. Having him on your side is like having a tank with aquakenesis and an army.
Don't forget Aquaman can control most land animals as well, and can even use blood as a weapon and source of rehydration. Heck, he's even got heavily resistant skin and super strength akin to Wonder Woman. Sure, he's got a huge weakness to extreme heat and Cold winds, but like, he's pretty freaking capable as long as he stays hydrated.
To be fair ancient, magical evils trying to bring about an apocalypse are shockingly common events in the DC universe/multiverse...so he's got plenty to work on.
@@TheUnseenPath well yeah as far as surface area goes that’s true. But the ocean kind of has a y axis. So it’s considered to have more livable space as creatures live at all depths
Batman: Refuses to kill the Joker causing thousands more innocent people to die Hawkman: Bludgeons evildoers to death with a mace Which one is the real hero?
I think the best part of this is Batman (and presumably the rest of the team) admitting that their jabs at Aquaman aren't malicious, but simple friendly ribbing. And Aquaman takes it because he knows that, at the end of the day, they're all buds. ☺️
I dunno, doesn't feel like friendly ribbing most of the time, and even then just because he doesn't say anything or ""takes it"" doesn't mean he likes it.
Well they should be buds with Hawkman as well. Just because he isn’t as cool or as popular as they are doesn’t mean he’s not worthy of being their friend (nor does it mean he should be treated like shit). The fact that you think this is wholesome and don’t care about Hawkman is mistreated means you’re a horrible person and likely were a bully who excluded and mistreated kids for not being “cool enough”.
@@thecatlord661 exact opposite, actually. I saw ppl like Hawkman as the bullies who butted into conversations that didn't concern them and acted like they knew the vibe when in actuality, they were just making everyone uncomfortable. I'm sure you can relate to that 😉
I can't get over how Hawkman sounds so much like SwaggerSouls. I think the "next" time Hawkman shows up in an episode you should have him guest star and see how many people notice
I kinda like the interpretation that Aquaman is actually competent and an integral part of the team, but they call him useless as a light-hearted inside joke Edit: I am well aware Aquaman is actually super powerful and a very successful superhero in the comics, but in these sorts of parodies he's not, and that's what I'm commenting on
Ironically, Hawkman probably has the most broken ability. Reincarnated knowledge, he literally can retain learned info in a past life, meaning as long as he goes out of his way to learn as many things as possible, he acts in a similar way to a book of knowledge; he could've read every book in the library of Alexandria and retell them for future generations. By far a much more important power then lets say, hitting someone really hard or like, flying or something
Yeah when Hawkman is written well he's a badass Warrior poet type who has literal near endless experience on the battlefield and has lived so many lives he's amassed a ton of knowledge and philosophy. Like sure he's not as strong as some of the other Leaguers but his sheer experience and fighting skill lets him keep up with most anyone.
I like how the complaints are that he's too dangerous and not contributing enough, any other person would have just had the cliché "He'S wOrThLeSs" joke but the joke here is that everyone can do the same thing as Hawkman without having to cave someone's skull in.
@@goldengrapechev2172 that isnt the issue The issue is when super powered people start seeing themselves as above the law Then they become criminals And a threat to humanity Theres a Legal and political problem to this on top of a moral one
Even while Aquaman is on the surface, he still has super-human strength, just like Superman. It also makes sense that he'd be that strong considering that he lives in a city at the bottom of the ocean which is under a lot of pressure. Only the strongest would be able to survive the amount of pressure down there.
All the fish at the bottom of the ocean, when brought up to land, start falling apart because they're used to the high density. It's like the lack of density is tearing them apart. So realistically being in high pressure would make Aquaman weaker on land
Fun Fact! At one point Hawkman's backstory was too convoluted to handle that they replaced him with a look a like called Zauriel Another Fun Fact! Hawkman's wings were originally fake and his flight came from his anti gravity belt
@@roxonightreturns you can negate gravity and kick off from the earth to fly, it's like being on the moon but extra floaty. Sure it still doesn't make sense but I see a logic to it imo
Fun Fact: Hawkman was one of the few DC hero's who was around every since the days of the Justice Society of America. He was literally created in the 1940s. That's almost as old as Superman. And yet people know little to nothing about him. I mean for god sake, the only modern day members of the Justice League who are as old as Hawk Man are Batman and Superman. And Wonder Woman who was created one year later. And yet people know nothing about him.
Ah, c'mon guys. Hawkman has given a lot to the DC universe. He was one of the original heroes of the golden age, founding member of the Justice Society (first super-team in comics), Hawkgirl, one of the most confusing character histories of comic books. And you can't forget his many classic villains like Gentleman Ghost and The Shade and Gentleman Ghost.. and The Shade and.. Gentleman Ghost! And he has a *mace!*
Here's how I though this would go: Batman: "Jesus Christ Hawkman, show some respect" Hawkman: "Bu-but I though we were on the same boat here..." Superman: "Same boat? Now you're just being offensive" Hawkman: "You literally mock him every day" Green Lantern: "We mock Aquaman to humble him, he's literally the richest and most deadly member of the Justice League." Hawkman: "Oh really now? He talks to fish!" Batman: "He's also a sovereign of 70℅ of Earth and controls a portion of Earth's economy" Superman: "And speaking of being dangerous, Hawkman you're a crazy nutjob dressed with overalls over naked body wielding a mace" Hawkman: "FFS Aquaman wears orange fishnets over green pants!" Green Lantern: "And has a cool trident too with immaculate powers" Hawkman: "I discovered a magic metal that can shape-shift into anything!" Batman: "Yet you still can't use it more creatively, unlike Hal here who can use his ring to create literally anything, he beats you in that apartment" Hawkman: "I can come back to life after death!" Green Lantern: "As a totally different person burdened with inexperience and cursed with madness of previous life, like that is useful" Batman: "You also don't have any cool supervillains"
The issue they have with his mace is not that it's not effective it's that it's not heroe-y. That's why you don't have heroes with guns. My superpower is that I can shoot you in the head with my .45 magnum just doesn't work. There is Hawkeye with his bow, but his power is super-accuracy. And I guess Iron man has a lot of weapons but they're sci-fi and part of his costume so it works too. Even a magic (or even better holy) sword would work with the proper back story. A mace on the other hand is just odd.
The way he makes Hawkman start stuttering and murmuring hard when try to tell Superman what he did that week as a hero is hilarious because it’s showing that the more he kept going into detail he started losing confidence unlike in the beginning when he said IM A FOUNDING MEMBER CMON and that he starts slowly realizing the more he talks the more he realizes how shitty he is
You know Hawkman has a point. I can think of one or more villains for each of them, but I couldn't think of a single villain for Hawkman. Maybe using a Mace is not a bad thing after all. 😁
Funnily enough I think this was pointed out to be the case for Wonder Woman, since she doesn't have the "no killing" rule Superman or Batman have. A lot of her enemies will end up being Gods or people she can't kill easily... But when she deals with someone she *deals* with them.
“Hawkman doesn’t have any notable villains because they’re all dead.”
Well, the only one I can think of is Gentleman Ghost, and he IS dead…
The other two either don’t die or can’t die
I legit just googled Hawkman villains and the only one I recognized was Hath-set cuz of JLU. Also I just realized Shadowthief isnt intended to b a Hawkman villain oof
And the sad thing is gentleman ghost became a batman villain
Have any of you heard of Byth Rok?
@@elpenguinoofmexico1388 And the reason he fought Hawkman first and has faced him often is...?
Aquaman is like that one friend in the group that everyone bullies, and Hawkman is the new guy who tries to join in too soon and gets slapped.
Aquaman has thick skin and the jokes from his teammates are from a place of friendship and appreciation.
Hawkman is the asshole with the bruised ego that needs somebody to look down on and the team isn't having it.
You have bad friends.
@@yurifairy2969 i think Aquaman has a larger ego than hawk man
Aquaman is the guy in the group that everbody makes fun of, but if an outsider starts doing it the group will kick their ass.
"founding member"
Whenever Hawkman is in a DC thing he's there to serve as cannon fodder to show off how strong the villain is without killing an actually important character
So his power is identifying the biggest threat?
Nah, that's Cyborg's job now. You take a shot every time his arms are ripped off and you'll be on the floor by panel 3.
Hawkman has the greatest power of all. Talent enhancement.
Poor one out for all the cannon fodder in the animated Injustice
@@TheQuantumWave his power is to get his butt kicked in such a manner that the villain still carries weight and threat after the equivalent of kicking cat.
_"To the members of the Justice League,_
_Hawkman tried to join our team, to get revenge on you as a super villain. We don't want him, you can have him back._
_Sincerely,_
_The Legion of Doom"_
That's really sad 😂
Man ☹️
Isn't that the plot of a robot chicken sketch? But I remember they use aquaman there
_P.S. Tell Wonder Woman to be quiet. We can hear her from here!_
@@thetruth45678 Wonder Woman: *Offended in lack of voice actress*
Team's opinion of Hawkman: What a pushover.
Team's opinion of Aquaman: He is OUR pushover.
aquaman can summon some pretty terrifying creatures, like giant squids and great white sharks. hawkman flies and has a mace, and one of the worst forms of extended life.
@@cageybee7221
''aquaman can summon some pretty terrifying creatures, like giant squids and great white''
Wonder how useful talking to fish would be when your not in the water maybe they can flop around for you ig
not rrally
@@bob74h67 have you seen injustice? The shit he summons are really wild
@@cageybee7221 But 90 % of times the crimes apen outside of the what he gona then matter fact what he gona do if the sharck just decides tho take a vecaiton and just not show up what he gona do ?
"Hey all i'm hearing is i'm a more effective hero is that a crime"
No, No. He's got a point.
Just like his mace.
@@Plazmasoldier Many points, in fact. And hard evidence.
I can't argue with that smashing argument.
@@Abedeuss very hard evidence in fact.
Jason Todd and his firearms agree.
Hawkman: "I can resurrect!"
Batman: "Yeah, so can like, half of my kids. You're not special man."
Most of the DC lineup, really.
Me: ohhhhhhhhhhh
Reincarnation and resurrection aren’t the same thing.
@@jazzman2516 except resurrection is better
Resurrection and reincarnation really isn't anything special in DC and marvel more so in DC since you literally have a guy who main shitck is dying and coming back to life every week
Hawkman has the ability to fly, enhanced strength to some degree, near instant healing of wounds, and some iterations of him gave him the ability to talk to birds, power to move large objects with anti gravity, and detect radiation. A support hero maybe, but he was always kind of a specialist that could do things the others could not. What he lacked in the extremes of superman, he made up for in some diverse skill sets.
Also, he is a bird guy. That is neat.
Found the hawkhead
@@Phapchamp Or just a knowledgeable comic enthusiast.
@@vorshack8968 Maybe both. :^)
Flying, superhuman strength, instant healing , telepathy or communication ability. That's sounds what Aquaman and MM does. Justice League already has two founding members who does it all why would they need another.
So hawkman can be replaced with a radiation detector
Hawkman is such an enigma. I've seen him in so many DC related stuff including shows, games, and comic book appearances and still know next to nothing about him. He's always just sorta... there...
He’s like the king of some underwater kingdom, he talks to fish and swings a trident
The only thing I know about him is that there is a woman version of him and she wants to fuck green lattern(John Stewart[aka the black one])
@@Andrewking-cu4yb lmfao
He has a billion different origins, and not like the Blue Beetle, where it's different people
He has many origins in the mainline canon associated with the same person
The first time I heard about him was in a Lego set I got when I was 12. I'm assuming that's not a good thing lmao
The idea of the team playfully making fun of Aquaman and him taking it on The chin knowing that it’s coming from a place of love is such an adorable idea to me
so basically friends roasting each other and laughing together?
Until one of them brings up the sturgeon he keeps paying the aquarium off to let him have his way with.
@@ryanbauer3680 what
@@ryanbauer3680 wholesome joke.
@@jacextreme6432 I have a very reliable source. Granted, he's an emotionally stunted meathead man child douche dealing with ptsd and a lot of daddy issues who wears a helmet that looks like chromo toilet seat, but I trust his intel.
"Nods in lack of a voice actress"
Somehow, this is infinitely better than you hiring a voice actress. Your dialogue, or lack of, is genius as always
Besides all that I mean c'mon.. she's a wo-
@@ventexovakon2178 So how'd your meeting go, Ventexo?
@@simona.9730 I didn't want to be part of the group anyway!
Is it a bad thing that i want Acevane too voice wonder woman in these shorts
@@theunovanative7640 yes i know there referencing batman destroys the justice league with logic and facts
"You stupid-idiot bastard ..."
They all see he's trying too hard.
Reminds me of the “eat some fucking shit you fucking stupid bitch.”
I remember Hawkman, he felt like the member of the JLA who wasn't as main as the rest, but was always great
Yeah but not as much as HawkGIRL, am i right?
Remember Martian Manhunter?
Ughhh
@@spunkyspaz Martian Manhunter is amazing, we need more of him in adaptions, although, I think they're doing that in the Tomorrowverse.
Hawkman and everyone besides Wonder Woman who used to be on the Justice Society just kinda got moved up to JL as a free promotion...if they didn't just vanish into obscurity.
Ehhhhhhh...great is a stretch.
I'd say he's decent. Like if Aquaman was sick or something, I guess watching him was okay.
It would have been funny if HawkGirl showed up and the league welcomed her with open arms and respect because she is by far more popular than Hawkman.
But then she'd need a voice actress
@@Game_Hero She'll just show up lol. She won't need to say a word and they'll all welcome her Norm style.
@@Game_Hero Honestly, that would make it even funnier. Hawkgirl and Wonder Woman looking at each other speaking in non voice actress and everyone totally being cool with it because...I mean, it's HAWKGIRL.
@@tornadoman3607 Norm?
@@Mama-Luigi Norm from Cheers. Norm walks in the people cheer his name.
Adult Swim needs to pick up Solid JJ as a writer so he can help parody the absolute mess that is superheroes
I feel like that’s already covered by the show Venture Bros, but I guess not anymore though
I agree. Solid JJ and CalebCity deserve shows.
Then Solid JJ's skills as a writer would be wetted by Adult Swim's interference. Adult Swim isn't the end all be all of comedic animation it's fans make it out to be, with most of it's best properties having already, or are in the process of concluding. Or have peaked in quality.
Nah
@@pepperedash4424 Do you live under a rock? What about Smiling Friends? It was created by a couple of well known TH-camrs. It's received a lot of acclaim too. Haven't heard them complaining about Adult Swim interfering.
Hawkman kinda has a point. Can't have recurring villains if you killed them.
LOOKING AT YOU, BATMAN!
Punisher does.
Because law enforcement should have the ability to execute people without trial. I’m sure that line of thought can’t go wrong anywhere.
@@SorowFame Trial is a poor excuse for a system. If you don't want people taking justice into their own hands, then live in a place where the system does its job.
@@hypernymous6852 well then Batman should fix the bloody system then. It’s not like he’s powerless considering all the money he has.
@@hypernymous6852
Police Officer: "I could've sworn that Black man I executed was a super villain off-costume"
*Do you really think this is better?*
Batman asking Aquaman if he found Nemo on the way here can be passed as a harmless joke between buddies.
Meanwhile, Hawkman straight-up calling him a stupid idiot bastard is just mean.
Aquaman actually did help Marlen find Nemo in these.
@@welcometothekingdra Not as evil as kicking a puppy my guy
That never happened. This is just a parody. Stop treating it like it’s real
@@snsnshhhs663 Strangest comment I've ever seen lmao
@@holdenroberts6973 it’s strange to you because you’re a fucking idiot who likes to outcast people who are different than you
Wonder woman being voice actress-less just means she’s just spectating the entire thing without a word LMAO
Hit em with the the the the
She's just sitting there sipping tea 🤣🤣
e
she's observing what men do now that she's out of her amazon island
@@dshim4731 just wait until we do something completely different than what we normally do, hehehe she'll never see it coming.
I feel bad for him. He’s just doing his best.
Yeah Aquaman really does do some good.
Yeah Aquaman earned that apology
Yeah, poor aquaman 😔
And that’s just not enough
Yeah I feel bad for aquaman too
As someone who actually likes superheroes, these videos usually end up just making me more interested in genuinely learning about a character. Hawkman is someone who I've always seen on the Justice League and then never really cared enough to look into.
Try reading Geoff Johns Hawkman and JSA if you want to learn more about him.
Then there Green Arrow
@@CarolToshii green Arrow is part-time and not full member
aquaman is only a meme until you realize he can summon a giant squid whenever he likes.
Aquaman summons the cosmic horror monsters in the sea we read about essentially
Or a whole shark.
@@supersani21 I believe he is also best friends with Cuthulu.
Plus he can always skewer you with his trident
@@crusader2412 dang, I was gonna comment that 😂😅
Bullying Aquaman is completely acceptable because they all know he's mad powerful, rich and King of 70% of the planet. It keeps him humble
Everyone bullies him because they fear him
@@genericname2747 friendly bullying
Bullying isn't the word. It's playful banter.
The 70% that nobody wants to live in and dump their literal shit uninterrupted.
Respect to Aquaman and all but to paraphrase a certain idiom: he's the only fish in the pond.
@@sdgdhpmbp you know Atlantis is the richest and most advanced society on DC'S Earth, right? Full of metahumans
There's something weirdly wholesome about everyone apologizing to Aquaman and he's so chill about the whole thing. Kudos to him and everyone else.
because they all know hes incredibly powerful
@@rinkutsuki3382 And he’s their friend
Aquaman is arguably second to Supes in terms of being the most powerful among them. Guy is crazy underrated.
@@AxleTrade I would still put Wonder Woman second. Flash can be straight up broken as well. But Aquaman is also powerful in his own right. He can easily 1v1 and beat any of the iconic Marvel heroes except Thor and Hulk. And even then, he can put up a good fight against Hulk underwater
@@LorianandLothric I don't know about that one, in some versions Hulk is just straight up immortal with super regeneration and durability and capable of planet busting. Honestly the only iconic marvel heroes he would probably beat are Captain America, Hawkeye (who might just straight up kill him immediately if he gets a shot), or Black Widow (same as hawkeye except guaranteed to try to kill). what the heck is he gonna do to Iron Man, who doesn't even hesitate to go straight for the kill on occasions, with his multi-million dollar technologies of mass destruction. He's literally a walking nuke with several PhDs.
What made Hawkman a reliable member of the team was the fact, apart from flight, above average strength and long winded reincarnation, his enth metal mace could combat magic, something even superman is vulnerable too, and him having skill in knowing out to fight with his mace gives him a leg up against magical villains
Just get hawkgirl then she has the same abilities and is a slightly better character than hawkman
@@levievil9220 She was a lot more interesting than Hawkman in the Justice League and Unlimited series.
Best thing about Hawkman:
His stories gave us Hawkgirl/Hawkwoman (Shayera Hol). The better version of him.
Indeed
Along with Hawkworld which is just a cool Space Opera comic
Justice League animated Shayera stomps
John Stewart wholeheartedly agrees with you.
Is that cuz it's just Hawkman with tits?
I like that Aquaman doesn't actually have any reactions to the jokes until Hawkman insults him, and then Aquaman just looks at him like "Dude, really?" And then at the end, when the team was apologizing, Aquaman was just like "it's all good" with a big smile to show he was a good sport about the humor. He seemed to understand they were just joking around with him, but glares at Hawkman since he could see Hawkman didn't understand it was a joke.
SolidJJ needs to write his own cartoon or something. He's awesome at this.
Makes sense when you consider gotham is in New Jersey.
Up there personalized insults are generally for friends
Aquaman only cares about helping people in his own way, if he's not generally regarded as "cool" or "powerful" he dosen't mind. He knows he's useful but he also know that his main identity power a bit of a gimmick with limitation but still very helpful. If people have fun with that then whatever.
He is unironically a true chad. He is secure in what he can do and know it helps and that what matters.
but while he's ok with being the "shaggy" of the group. The important member that's also a bit comedic on the outlook. He won't tolerate nor reduce himself to other people sincere disrespect.
Menawhile hawkman is scrambling for approval and to prove him himself. He is not secure in how he goes about helping people. Probably has something to do with the guilt of the dead on his mind.
Hawkman's joke was even meaner than theirs. Batman just made a Nemo joke whereas Hawkman called him a stupid idiot bastard. That's barely even a joke.
@@abduljah9355 Hence why Aquaman gave him the glare.
Making your own show is a whole different ballpark than what he is doing here, he could definitely write for a pre-established show, and maybe work up to writing his own show.
For those who know nothing about Hawkman or are curious as to what he contributes:
Back in the 60s and 70s, the JLA’s satellite was built using mostly Thanagarian technology, including teleporters, invisibility devices, radiometers, and anti-gravity devices in ships and flying cars.
He was also the chief intelligence member of the team, being able to communicate with birds which could witness crimes and trail criminals, and often took most of monitor duty, the role Martian Manhunter took in the Justice League show (in the 60s, J’onn was essentially a backup Superman). He even had a global mind-reading device that he only used in emergency to learn the identities of his teammates so that they could assemble during a ban on heroes.
Personality-wise, he was stoic and professional, which led to him often butting heads with the loud-mouthed cynical Green Arrow. He was best friends with the Atom, who he would call on the phone to bring to meetings since the Atom can travel through phone lines. He also often vouched for his wife, Hawkgirl, by bringing her along on adventures, insisting that Superman change the bylaws to allow her on the team, and taking time away from the team when she needed help.
Dang, this dude deserves better
Nice profile pic you have
@@azunc9423 Why thank you!
Question what were the bylaws preventing her from joining?
@@I_saw_that956 dating within the team always leads to disaster
Finally someone mentions the mace. I remember Hawk Girl knocking people out with that thing, but there’s spikes, so it looks a lot less gorey than it should. I always wondered if she had some hidden field or power that stopped the spikes from piercing, why the flipping mace then.
Hawkman makes sense to use it, his reincarnation powers means that he lived many different eras and so it's reasonable that he probably mastered the mace but... Not sure about hawkgirl.
@@YeetFeet-vh8xz Hawkgirl also reincarnates, so she has that experience too.
I like how Hawk Man was the first to verbally attack everyone, but as soon as they start questioning him, he goes all defensive and "high and mighty"
I know a kid like that in school.
Even though they didn't specifically insult him they were still being pretty standoffish and aloof. It's hard not to take that as insulting.
@@mememan3447 kid being you
Reminds me of Leffen
@@totallynot572 The irony of your reply is staggering.
This gets even funnier when you realize that Hawkgirl completely outshines Hawkman in the DC universe. Normally they'd have a male hero with a female counterpart (batgirl, supergirl, aquagirl, ect.) that feels like an offshoot of them; but in this case you've got Hawkgirl taking the center stage while Hawkman comes off as a male offshoot of HER.
Do you think the Justice League cartoon has anything to do with that?
@@danielquinlan2457 I think so
@@danielquinlan2457 Obviously.
@@danielquinlan2457 for sure
Jesus Christ is lord. Please, take your salvation seriously. Read three books of the Bible at least. The first book of each testament and one you chose yourself. As you do practice forgiveness. That is important. To be forgiven we must forgive. It is mandatory.
Fun fact: Hawkman has one of the most absurdly complex and confusing histories in the DC Universe.
Context
@OrdinaryGamer what's his story? No pun intended
@@DiegoErnestoTejadaZaldivar
his origin has been unclear
for so long
whether if he was some kind of hawk alien from thanagar
or the reincarnation of some egyptian prince guy
so
dc with their most recent hawkman run decided to just make it so
"all of it is the right origin, it's just a bunch of reincarnations"
he can be reincarnated at any point in time, past, present, or future
even made him an ancient kryptonian in one of his past lives (or future lives in the past because that can apparently happen)
so
yeah
real comic booky
stuff
Explanation pls
Elaborate, I’m scared
Hawkman has one of the most interesting backstories in comics, has been around since the 1940s, and yet is virtually unknown. How is that possible?
Shazam was one of the most popular fictional characters at one point but has fallen into obscurity
@@alchemistofsteel8099 I wouldn't say that exactly, shazam is still rather popular thanks to his frequent appearances in cartoons and the movies
but he did become obscure in the brief period between the shut down of fawcett and his new home in dc
if you wanna get to an extreme case of popular to literal who
Joe palooka, the dude had a literal mountain named after and now I'm one of like 5 people on earth who actually read one of his comics
@@baronkarza2939 Joe Paloo-who?
@@freshboy3968 exactly
literally one of the reason of boxing became legal in some states, inspired thousands to join the millitary and had a mountain named after
and nobody knows who he is
@@baronkarza2939if he was important, I would’ve learned it in history
No but really, I get that the joke is that Aquaman is lame but I like to think that the JL acknowledge and actually respect him because he covers a large specialty that none of the other heroes can cover as well as he can. The ocean is 2/3's of the world and Aqua keeps track of all that, so while its funny to poke at him sometimes because he's not as useful on land as he is in the water, he's still a very core member to a group that wants to protect the *entire* world.
You're right, I think we all owe Aquaman an apology
plus gotta be pretty strong and durable to swim at the bottom of the ocean
@@InfernosReaper facts like superman can go into space but the bottom of the ocean is much more pressurized so aquaman gotta have some really dense skin literally lol
He’s as strong as Wonder Woman too, and he has telepathy on par with Martian manhunter. And some people really think all he can do is control fish.
yeah, he prevents sea monsters from attacking on a regular basis.
The sad thing (to me here) is really really could have spun the reincarnation power into being useful. Where he points out that Batman or somebody trained for twenty to thirty years and has that much experience but Hawkman keeps getting new experience and training and remembers the countless Prior ones to have hundreds of years of experience
Yea but somehow he’s still doing the same thing for hundreds of years… at least Batman is rich.
Depends on how that experience actually manifest into action
Batman mastered hand to hand combat in lets say 20 or 30 years and thats all he needs to be effective at it
200 more years is unnecessary
Yet somehow in experience in fighting and stuff he still somehow loses to batman sometimes. And he doesn't have a lot of abilities batman has and batman has had way less time then him. I think Hawk man has bad time management with all that time but not knowing as many skills as batman and also his main skills are comparable to batman. He isn't really training up his skills every life time but after he learned his skills he just uses it and it naturally got better while Bruce actively trained his stuff and got that good that fast so if he did as much as batman in everylife then he'd be way better then batman and way smarter too then it'd be a question on why Bruce is on the team when hawkman is way better and has actual powers and batmans one power of being rich he also has so hawkman would be the one who's there with a supervillain and questioning what batman is doing for the team
@@Kanyedefender5926 ikr
Well it was never meant to be a power. It's backstory. But you're right, hawkman is known for being proficient with any weapon, science, and tactics in general. Plus being a detective himself.
The answer to "what he contributes" is basically "magic mace that stop magic good". So, in summary, the single most transferable trait possible of "I have this one weapon" is his only reason to be on the team other than a need for extra flying people.
Isn't that an "anti-magic" mace
@@stevesmith1383 debatable, since apparently that material is also used in Dr. Fate's helmet.
Hawk woman also has same mace
So putting this in Moba terms.... he is the anti ap character you last pick when you see they have like 3 magic guys.
Depends on the version. Post-crisis Katar Hol didn't use a mace, but that was a non-magical version of Hawkman
the fact their not ok with hawkman using medieval weapons but have aquaman having a literal trident and batman having a batarang
And green lantern, need I say more. The guy could conjure a supernova if he wanted
Yeah, but Batman doesn’t use the Batarang to harm, he usually uses it to knock things out of people’s hand or destroy something, not directly at someone’s head. And even if he does like in the games, they are clearly not sharp enough to pierce skin
Honestly I don't blame them for ganging up on Hawkman.
When Batman made a joke about Nemo, it was light hearted banter and the rest actually found it funny.
Hawkman on the other hand went in and called Aquaman a "stupid idiot bastard" which is just straight up bullying that the others obviously didn't find funny
So yeah, Hawkman deserved that
It's possible, at least in this parody, that Hawkman genuinely can't tell the difference between a lighthearted joke and bullying. Maybe he's socially inept. Maybe to him, the light hearted joke sounds just as mean as outright bullying. The others all have a good laugh at it, so Hawkman thinks that's ok. And since he can't tell the difference, to him, his add on is ok too. I mean, it's the sort of mistake i would make. It barely even registered to me how mean Hawkman's insult was. So maybe he's not trying to be mean, maybe he's just trying to fit in.
Or maybe.
Just maybe.
Maybe one or both of us is putting too much thought into this
@@lankymaccrazyhair264 So you're saying Hawkman is autistic?
@@kuropotato8097 you can be socially inept without being autistic.
But yes.
And then turned around at the end like, "Why are we always picking each other apart?"
Seemed like you were fine with it when you weren't the target, bird boy. 😒
I disagree. On the roll call he wasn't even brought up and when Superman said Oh you're here Hawkman it's like they didn't want him around.
I love the idea of the Justice League or "Super Friends" being total BROS with each other, making fun of each other but still being true friends at the end of the day.
Except to Hawkman
@@rdwn1999
All that dying and rebirth knocked some of his screws loose, so he lost the ability to banter.
Poor guy.
"You're going to call me useless when AQUAMAN'S on the team?"
"I rule over 2/3 of the entire planet. What the fuck do you do?"
"..."
"I....I fly...?"
If Hawkman was written properly, it would show that he's the most experienced member of the team. Not just because he was on the JSA but because he literally has thousand of years of experience. He should be figuring out villain's plans faster than the others and setting up counters before he executes them. Having Batman having a plan for every eventuality is sort of silly he's a relative noob and wisdom takes time. He could guide the team when they travel to the past because he lived through many eras. If they weren't in one of his past cities he might have contacts to heroes of that era there.
We found the Hawkhead
Batman is no noob. I doubt Hawkman remembers anything from his past.
🎶Birds flyyyy, according to instiinct, no one has told them how or whyyy🎶
🤓
@@TheUnseenPath It's DC comics, everyone's got a photographic memory until it's plot convenient for them to not remember something.
This is straight out of the comics. There was a point where Hawkman would show up and start going nuts murdering things with his mace, and of the other heroes would ask who invited him. I don’t remember what comic it was in, I think it was around the beginning of flashpoint.
flashpoint comics was an alternate weid world, and that never happened, larper
@@yodorr6249 flashpoint was a crossover event that reset the universe and started the New 52. And now that I think about it, I think it was from the Geoff Johns New 52 Aquaman “Return of the King” arc. Also Flashpoint isn’t some “marvel what if” alternate timeline, it’s about time travel. Go back to watching the movies and reading Wikipedia instead of trying to correct things you don’t get.
@@yodorr6249 Do you even know what "larper" means
@@yodorr6249 if i gained a five cent coin for each occurrence of someone being referred to as a larper online i would have an unsual amount
@@Emily12471 five cents, right?
Well to quote from Peacemaker:
"If you're a hero why don't you have any arch-nemesis?"
"Cause all of them are six-feed under"
Hawkman has a point there
I mean 2 of his big villains are a guy who also reincarnates, and a literal ghost. The third big one is also just a shadow. Killing them isn't exactly a feasible thing.
@@maninthetrenchcoat5603
How do you kill something that refuses to stay dead, is already dead, and will come back the second someone turns off a light?
Answer: You can't.
@@captainlastreo5160 Then there's also just a lion man. You could kill that pretty easily by comparison. Copperhead isn't exactly a Hawkman guy, but I like to count him to balance out the distribution of villains. Same goes for Kite Man, who did fight the Hawks in his second appearance.
Flash looks at reverse Flash Oh yeah you wanna switch Does he just keep coming back. Or here just destroy time to mess up your life
@@captainlastreo5160 turn on all lights ez
Hawkman is the quiet kid in the back who's trying his best to make friends.
@Speak Good bot
Sounds like me.
Except I didn't try my best to make friends.
Okay that's funny, but enough Hawkman slander, dude is practically a stronger Batman with wings, a healing factor, and a licence to kill.
Don't come into the watchtower tomorrow you guys are cool
@@SassyCassie89made me choke on my Sprite
Their reaction to Hawkman talking is how an introvert imagines things going in their head if they try to join in on the conversation lol
You know Green Lantern’s got a point. Being hit with Hawkman’s mace is like being hit with a planet. Also in modern comics Hawkman can “reincarnate immediately” which means he is pretty much Wolverine.
No, he isn't. Wolverine regenerates almost instantly, hawkman basically has to press a reset button on life
@@mightybeastofbengal "In modern comics"
@@mightybeastofbengal Kinda, except now it’s more like what Flash described. He gets knocked down, and gets right back up. Some modern versions have him reincarnate as a completely new appearance/person, except he stays in his prime age and maintains his memories, so it’s really just a style choice.
@@ComicTributes reincarnated or resurrected?
He is like Wolverine, but bad
2:27 "He's the bloody King of Atlantis. He owns two thirds of the planet. He can command Cuthulu. You don't mess with Aquaman."
You know you're a lame character when your female counterpart, who was created after you and almost no one knew about until she took your place in a tv show, is SIGNIFICANTLY more popular buy an incalculable margin
Yeah. I think that only happened with Xena/Hercules and the hawks.
@@gentblue Well that's also because Kevin Sorbo is a lame-ass Christian Zealot
Yeah. When I first got this video randomly recommended to me I was like "hawkman? There's a hawkMAN!? I thought the Justice League had a Hawkwoman...". So, y'know, it made the video better because I also didn't remember him.. actually, I didn't knew he existed, but same thing :v
I mean this argument can b said abt a lot of things. When ur DC and u want representation ur going to either make a character u alrdy have shine in the spotlight or make a new character and I prefer the first option. Ofc this does make bigger problems like Hal Jordan v John Stewart cuz every1 loves both of them but storyboard writers keep trying to make the other one up each other in founding position in the JL. This case is Hawkgirl v Hawkman and uhhhhh there arent many females on the team; albeit I think the option was adding any1 for the 7th spot and they rlly wanted a female so my argument is kinda in vain so it was never abt adding a bird person to the team they just wanted a girl
Given how Hawkgirl is in comics. It's less so that Hawkman is lame in comparison than it is that the Justice League cartoon actually bothered to take those characters and actually give them a coherent, easy to follow background and story that is of good quality. Secret alien agent who infiltrates Earth to gather Intel and prepare for conquest who grows attached to her comrades and the world she has defended only forced to betray her friends, betray her species to do what she believes is right and goes under self exile for her guilt is far more compelling than what they got in the comics.
1:29 I mean theirs gentlemen ghost even if he’s not that notab- wait he’s dead also
Flash: "Do you have any other super powers."
Hawkman: "I have a girlfriend, for eternity"
Based.
That's actually pretty solid as far as powers go. Not many people can claim to have an eternal girlfriend.
I would argue an Eternal Wife would be better, but thats more of a curse.
"Just forget about the time she was banging John Stewart"
Jon Stewart: Yeah...about that...
"Yeah but he's rich."
The greatest power of all.
Batman provides the other justice league members their incomes. Except Clark. I know this meme is dead but I think he still owes him $16 from 5 years ago
@@Nierguy I mean, Superman owes him $50,000 for the Bat-Computer Kara destroyed, so... who really owes money to whom?
Tell me that there aren't legions of people willing to kiss Elon M.'s butt for a small chance he will be interested in them. Being rich IS a superpower.
@@vicenzostella1390 Well now Superman potentially only owes him 49,984
@@revolvingworld2676 Exactly
This is rather heartwarming, actually.
Aquaman just doing his job (and memes influenced by the Superfriends cartoon aside, he *is* a powerful superhero), and other members of the team really noticing and appreciating that... it's just nice. As silly as Solid jj's videos are, they are always weirdly in character for whoever features in them.
I'd feel more sorry for Hawkman if not for the implication that he clubs petty criminals to death. Y'know, almost immediately after mentioning he stopped a *purse snatcher* he reasons that there's nothing wrong with taking out his enemies permanently. Not a great look, dude.
(not to mention, immediately going to "you stupid idiot bastard" is not exactly on the same level as relatively good-natured jokes about Aquaman.)
So true it’s really cool
"It's a solid jj video don't think too heavily into it"
@John Tyler criminals as fucked as Joker? Hell no. But like, petty thieves, and other small time criminals deserve a chance to change
@John Tyler I mean... jail is a thing that exists
@John Tyler Nice try Hawkman
At least when Hawkman puts an enemy down, he stays down.
It’s a real shame. He’s actually a really cool character. It sucks that so many people don’t know or care about him.
Yeah Aquaman deserve better.
Yeah. I dont understand why people said Aquaman is useless while he rules all the 7 seas.
@@magentapurpleyap5566 Lol!
At least Aquaman is getting love recently.
@@stivanotaliho plus with he's trident he can summon thunder
Aquaman absolutely deserved that apology. He's a king, after all. And a king of one of DC's most powerful armies
Well i mean aquaman is much stronger than hawkman too. Also he has that magic trident with all the extra powers it gives.
One of DC's most powerful armies until the task isn't invading surface humans
@@Jebu911 he's physically comparable to Wonder Woman, throwing tanks and shit.
I feel like he should rebrand. I think the name ''Aquaman" is holding him back. It sounds lame. Maybe something more bad ass, like "Aquarion", "Ocean Master" or "Sea Lord". Even just his name, "King Arthur" sounds better.
Ok, ok guys, STOP!!
.....
Did he find Nemo or not?
There was a point in time where Hawkman and Hawkgirl were merged into one being to fix continuity errors in the DC universe...
They fumbled that so much that writers didn't want to use him due to how complicated they made their history.
*Reminder:* this is the same DC that had Superboy punch time to fix a continuity error
@@davidhong1934 Thanks to that punch Jason Todd got revived too.
@@CatacombSaint One of DC's better decisions.
Not even Crisis could fix him.
@Speak Good stop spamming
Lost it when they started singing.. "For he's a jolly, good fellow!"
Aquaman's happy expression at the end honestly warmed my heart.
Me too
Aquaman is my Dad's Favorite Hero, he's unaware why everyone hates on him haha.
I always tell him it's because of an old children's show he did (Aquaman and friends), he got bad rep from it.
Although I'm not aware of the true reason behind the meme.
@@Kranon Understandable. My Dad is the same way. He says that Robin deserves some love and needs to appear in a live action movie.
Having Batman tell you something you did was "pretty smart" is the absolute highest compliment you can receive from the caped crusader.
“You’re hitting people with medieval weaponry.”
Okay, Lantern, that’s kinda unfair considering we have Batman over here with razor-sharp boomerangs that could easily kill someone just as easily.
Baterangs are state of the art
The mace is archaic and obsolete
Also the dude's a ninja. He can throw those boomerangs with enough ease that it would never fatally kill a man in an intentional way
The basic batarang is just a boomerang, which as a weapon existed throughout history pretty much alongside the mace as a weapon if not predating it. If you call a mace archaic and obsolete, you’d have to call the batarang the same thing.
As for Batman basically being a ninja, though, that’s a good point. But how do we know that Hawkman doesn’t train himself to do the same thing and make sure he doesn’t fatally injure a person?
@@justin2308 well the batarang is pretty versatile. It could he used for just about almost any situation. I mean, he can be able to use it for non lethal situations like disarming a guy, cutting rope. His weapons can potentially be lethal but with his training he can turn his bat shaped ninja throwing stars into a tool for pacification instead of death. (And also he had to like dump out possibly a million dollars to custom make those things.)
The mace however is pretty much lethal in every sense of the word. The mace had been specifically made to ruin some poor schmuck's day. Not only is hawkman's the typical big ball with spikes all over it but with his strength and warrior mentality. He is well sorted for something as war instead of being a hero.
@@TheUncivilizedNation The mace is not obsolete considering WW uses a sword and GL can make medieval weapons too.
Hawkman is battling immortal wizards who tries to bend the fabrics of reality for breakfast. But then he dies, resurrects and forget about it.
HawkMan really brings a lot to the table
Hawkman really brings to the table
Honestly all he ever brung was having the introduction issue of Zatanna in his 1960s run, hawkwoman is just infinitely more interesting
Like what, chicken ?
I do say, he does have rather large and meaty wings. You think they'd taste good?
@@rjs4176
Probably way too tough and stringy, like chewing a rubber boot
You know, to me, Hawkman is the first thing I think when someone says superhero. He's strong, he can fly, he has a weapon that is not a gun, he has some sort of animal thing going on. He's every superhero ever distilled into one.
But also he's an ancient egyptian pharaoh that might have been an alien that reincarnates across space and time and universes
Plus the reincarnation thing is literally what every hero do when they die in comics, except hawkman's is an actual power XD
Ah, but can he plays a children's card game ?
No ? YEAH I THOUGHT SO
WORST PHARAOH EVER BOOOO BOOOO
So he’s the Doctor?
@@Blueberryyymuffin Basically, except he doesn't have a brand new body, his soul just gets transferred to one of his ancestors and he retains his memories, which he uses to find Hawkgirl (who doesn't have her memories) and sleep with her before his ancient servant that also reincarnates kills them and starts the cycle over again
@@richardsphd Where did you get like 90% of this information from? he doesn't get transferred to his ancestors, that would mean he was going backwards in time, not forwards. Also, Hawkgirl sometimes remembers, its not like she just never has any memories. Also, they don't have to sleep together or anything, they can reincarnate into any people
Would love to see the villainous version of this. Just because of the disconnect of one set of baddies being "clown" and another being "baby that was torturously made into the ultimate lifeform".
By "baby that was torturously made into the ultimate lifeform" do you mean Doomsday?
@@quietone6848 Yep. Not sure who else that description would work for, really.
@@Umbra_Ursus Good point. I've just never really been a comics guy, and it's been ages since I saw the original issue for Doomsday's first appearance.
@@quietone6848 If you ever need a refresher, just watch the Death Battle he was in. An informative bio *and* one of their best fights.
@@Umbra_Ursus Sounds like a plan! Thanks for the input, stranger!
He's kind of like Angel from the X-Men. No one knows what to do with him either. He got turned into one of Apocalypse's horse men but I don't think his story went much further than that.
1:33 no no, he makes a valid point.
Here's the thing about brutally efficient super heroes. It's all cool till you realize there is a super powered serial killer obliterating petty criminals' heads
Let him cook
The funniest thing about Hawk man is that one of his rouges he shares with a Batman is literally a ghost
I love Gentleman Ghost. Very underrated villain. One of my favorite baddies in B:TBATB.
@@superstarultra28 man that was a good episode made me really think gentleman ghost was actually a batman villain
When you love a villain but forget about their hero 😂
I was almost 100% certain that was Swagger voicing Hawkman after hearing him say "y'know" a few times.
That is For sure swaggers lol
These are the comments I was looking for 😂 glad I'm not alone
@@cadebrummer2067 Is it? I checked the description and didn't see any links or anything so I genuinely couldn't tell if swagger is doing the voice or the actual dude who does every other voice
@@dumpsterfiregames4710 yeah it swagger don’t know why they didn’t include him in the description
Yeah and him calling Aquaman a "stupid idiot bastard" is such a swagger-y thing
Mess with the hawk? you get the tuah.
Green lantern: "noo, you cant just use a mace against villains!"
Aquaman: *impales random thug with trident*
Green arrow: *shoots arrow through the bad guy's brains*
Wonder Woman cleaning her magic sword: "Cool story brah."
Thanks for reminding us that Snyder never understood these characters.
It's funny how back in the days they had the spectre and the phantom stranger on they're team who are both multiversal level entities that can literally destroy the multiverse entirely but instead choose to hang around with these guys togheter fighting goofy villains
and on of them kills criminals aswell so yeah
its probably like going to a campsite as a vacation, you would'nt live there but you'd have fun
It's the little things
"Hey, all I'm hearing is I'm a more effective hero."
He has a point tho.
This video literally says that he brutally killed a common thief
@@s.nifrum4580 and Batman trapped a guy in the sewers to bleed to death
“It’s a Solid JJ video, don’t think too heavily into it”
Hawk man is sorta used for very specific threats. In recent years he’s mostly used for things relating to “Inth metal” but yeah he’s really meant for ancient threats since he’s immortal.
Aqua man however as I’ve always said is just specialized for the ocean. Which is 99% of the worlds livable space. It’s filled with pirates and has its own group of villains. Plus Aqua-man has an army and a kingdom on top of actually pretty substantial powers. Having him on your side is like having a tank with aquakenesis and an army.
Don't forget Aquaman can control most land animals as well, and can even use blood as a weapon and source of rehydration. Heck, he's even got heavily resistant skin and super strength akin to Wonder Woman. Sure, he's got a huge weakness to extreme heat and Cold winds, but like, he's pretty freaking capable as long as he stays hydrated.
To be fair ancient, magical evils trying to bring about an apocalypse are shockingly common events in the DC universe/multiverse...so he's got plenty to work on.
It's 70%. The world is one massive rock covered in water.
@@TheUnseenPath well yeah as far as surface area goes that’s true. But the ocean kind of has a y axis. So it’s considered to have more livable space as creatures live at all depths
Batman: Refuses to kill the Joker causing thousands more innocent people to die
Hawkman: Bludgeons evildoers to death with a mace
Which one is the real hero?
idk who hawkman is so id go with batman
@@randomdude9630 based
hawkman
Who tf is Hawk-Man? Is he like the Wish version of Falcon?
@@somehistorynerd no he is actually a very cool character but yes he is the wish version
I think the best part of this is Batman (and presumably the rest of the team) admitting that their jabs at Aquaman aren't malicious, but simple friendly ribbing. And Aquaman takes it because he knows that, at the end of the day, they're all buds. ☺️
Ironically, the one talking about being friends was the one who was not a friend.
I dunno, doesn't feel like friendly ribbing most of the time, and even then just because he doesn't say anything or ""takes it"" doesn't mean he likes it.
Well they should be buds with Hawkman as well. Just because he isn’t as cool or as popular as they are doesn’t mean he’s not worthy of being their friend (nor does it mean he should be treated like shit).
The fact that you think this is wholesome and don’t care about Hawkman is mistreated means you’re a horrible person and likely were a bully who excluded and mistreated kids for not being “cool enough”.
@@thecatlord661 Dude, did you watch the same video the rest of us did? Hawkman is clearly framed as being in the wrong the whole way through.
@@thecatlord661 exact opposite, actually. I saw ppl like Hawkman as the bullies who butted into conversations that didn't concern them and acted like they knew the vibe when in actuality, they were just making everyone uncomfortable.
I'm sure you can relate to that 😉
I can't get over how Hawkman sounds so much like SwaggerSouls. I think the "next" time Hawkman shows up in an episode you should have him guest star and see how many people notice
I like how Hawkman sound like he's actually struggling to find reasons to be in the league
2:34 Sorry to break it to you, but there’s more hawkgirl fans than your fans.
I kinda like the interpretation that Aquaman is actually competent and an integral part of the team, but they call him useless as a light-hearted inside joke
Edit: I am well aware Aquaman is actually super powerful and a very successful superhero in the comics, but in these sorts of parodies he's not, and that's what I'm commenting on
yeah like that one time they had to go to a desert to stop someone and he couldn't do anything and they just laugh about it
look, if the guy can literally summon a goddamn kraken (yes this is true). I'm not calling him useless unless it's an inside joke.
That’s because he is.
Aqua man is in the water all the time, fighting Big Ol’ Fish. Making sure some evil whale isn’t showing up on shore, y’know?
@@zigzoinks5493 man for someone who has read zero comics featuring Aquaman. You're apparently an expert on him.
1:44 Anyone else think it’s cool that this could be a reference to all pharaohs being the avatar of Horus. The reincarnation of pharaohs in some way.
Ironically, Hawkman probably has the most broken ability.
Reincarnated knowledge, he literally can retain learned info in a past life, meaning as long as he goes out of his way to learn as many things as possible, he acts in a similar way to a book of knowledge; he could've read every book in the library of Alexandria and retell them for future generations.
By far a much more important power then lets say, hitting someone really hard or like, flying or something
Yeah when Hawkman is written well he's a badass Warrior poet type who has literal near endless experience on the battlefield and has lived so many lives he's amassed a ton of knowledge and philosophy.
Like sure he's not as strong as some of the other Leaguers but his sheer experience and fighting skill lets him keep up with most anyone.
Flying is useful but there is nothing stating he remembers that knowledge is there?
So his power is to get Isekai'ed?
I like how the complaints are that he's too dangerous and not contributing enough, any other person would have just had the cliché "He'S wOrThLeSs" joke but the joke here is that everyone can do the same thing as Hawkman without having to cave someone's skull in.
I picture you as an old lady while reading your comment.
Well, I mean, have you ever caved someone’s skull in? It’s pretty fun.
I'd say he does it better because of that though, I mean how many of his villains escaped prison to commit crimes again?
@@goldengrapechev2172 that isnt the issue
The issue is when super powered people start seeing themselves as above the law
Then they become criminals
And a threat to humanity
Theres a Legal and political problem to this on top of a moral one
@@chadboyle4107 They don't necessarily become a threat to humanity, some laws are just shitty
Even while Aquaman is on the surface, he still has super-human strength, just like Superman. It also makes sense that he'd be that strong considering that he lives in a city at the bottom of the ocean which is under a lot of pressure. Only the strongest would be able to survive the amount of pressure down there.
Yeah Aquaman deserved the apology. A misunderstood hero. Hawkman though...
All the fish at the bottom of the ocean, when brought up to land, start falling apart because they're used to the high density. It's like the lack of density is tearing them apart. So realistically being in high pressure would make Aquaman weaker on land
he didn't had super-strength originally they added that later so that people stop making fun of him
Being able to withstand water pressure has nothing to do with strength.
@@hurtjuice8128 Thats not true in his first apereance he destroyed a Nazi submarine with one punch
*"I retract my last statement"*
I'm dead...!!!
Fun Fact! At one point Hawkman's backstory was too convoluted to handle that they replaced him with a look a like called Zauriel
Another Fun Fact! Hawkman's wings were originally fake and his flight came from his anti gravity belt
Zauriel is WAY unknown, but I'm big into 90s JLA, and that dude was awesome.
Zauriel wasn't a look alike, he was a damn Angel like literal angel
that is some stupid comic logic there because I don't see how a anti-gravity belt would let you fly.
@@roxonightreturns you can negate gravity and kick off from the earth to fly, it's like being on the moon but extra floaty. Sure it still doesn't make sense but I see a logic to it imo
I low key forgot hawkman exists as well
Fun Fact: Hawkman was one of the few DC hero's who was around every since the days of the Justice Society of America. He was literally created in the 1940s. That's almost as old as Superman. And yet people know little to nothing about him. I mean for god sake, the only modern day members of the Justice League who are as old as Hawk Man are Batman and Superman. And Wonder Woman who was created one year later. And yet people know nothing about him.
Ah, c'mon guys. Hawkman has given a lot to the DC universe. He was one of the original heroes of the golden age, founding member of the Justice Society (first super-team in comics), Hawkgirl, one of the most confusing character histories of comic books. And you can't forget his many classic villains like Gentleman Ghost and The Shade and Gentleman Ghost.. and The Shade and.. Gentleman Ghost! And he has a *mace!*
I feel like one of his villains being a ghost doesnt really help hawkmans case.
@@patrickbohn5235 Little-Known Fact: Before Hawkman came along, the Gentleman Ghost was simply the Gentleman.
Shade was a villain of the Golden Age Flash.
@@videogollumer Oh, you're right! I was thinking of Shadow Thief.
@@kashsmith6181 I figured. Also, some other villains he's had include Hath-Seth, Byth Rok, and Matter Master.
Here's how I though this would go:
Batman: "Jesus Christ Hawkman, show some respect"
Hawkman: "Bu-but I though we were on the same boat here..."
Superman: "Same boat? Now you're just being offensive"
Hawkman: "You literally mock him every day"
Green Lantern: "We mock Aquaman to humble him, he's literally the richest and most deadly member of the Justice League."
Hawkman: "Oh really now? He talks to fish!"
Batman: "He's also a sovereign of 70℅ of Earth and controls a portion of Earth's economy"
Superman: "And speaking of being dangerous, Hawkman you're a crazy nutjob dressed with overalls over naked body wielding a mace"
Hawkman: "FFS Aquaman wears orange fishnets over green pants!"
Green Lantern: "And has a cool trident too with immaculate powers"
Hawkman: "I discovered a magic metal that can shape-shift into anything!"
Batman: "Yet you still can't use it more creatively, unlike Hal here who can use his ring to create literally anything, he beats you in that apartment"
Hawkman: "I can come back to life after death!"
Green Lantern: "As a totally different person burdened with inexperience and cursed with madness of previous life, like that is useful"
Batman: "You also don't have any cool supervillains"
Maces are a surprisingly effective weapon when used at terminal velocity.
As are most things.
at the right velocity, everything can be terminal
Surprisingly effective? It's a solid metal ball with sharp spikes on a handle. Maces might actually be the most destructive weapon for melee combat.
The issue they have with his mace is not that it's not effective it's that it's not heroe-y. That's why you don't have heroes with guns. My superpower is that I can shoot you in the head with my .45 magnum just doesn't work.
There is Hawkeye with his bow, but his power is super-accuracy. And I guess Iron man has a lot of weapons but they're sci-fi and part of his costume so it works too. Even a magic (or even better holy) sword would work with the proper back story. A mace on the other hand is just odd.
@@Trucmuch and his power is flight which is strange to pair with a close range weapon
@@Trucmuch Pretty sure I have seen green lantern make hardlight morning stars and some other similar weapons though?
The way he makes Hawkman start stuttering and murmuring hard when try to tell Superman what he did that week as a hero is hilarious because it’s showing that the more he kept going into detail he started losing confidence unlike in the beginning when he said IM A FOUNDING MEMBER CMON and that he starts slowly realizing the more he talks the more he realizes how shitty he is
How is he shitty?
Hawkman is far from shitty, he’s just very underrated and underused
You know Hawkman has a point. I can think of one or more villains for each of them, but I couldn't think of a single villain for Hawkman. Maybe using a Mace is not a bad thing after all. 😁
Hath-Set and Byth are probably his two biggest villains along with Lion-Mane, Shadow Thief, Gentleman Ghost, Matter Master, I.Q., and Fadeaway Man.
@@soberchimera61 Which cemetery did you find their names in?
@@charaznable9209 Midway City Cemetery ;)
Funnily enough I think this was pointed out to be the case for Wonder Woman, since she doesn't have the "no killing" rule Superman or Batman have. A lot of her enemies will end up being Gods or people she can't kill easily... But when she deals with someone she *deals* with them.
It’s not a mace either, it’s a morningstar, literally stabbing your skull with it
Either this man is swaggersouls
Or
Can mimic him on like
A perfect level
3:34 "You guys serious? Screw this!" I love that part, the voice acting is hilarous af
Hawk man is probably the most forgettable member of the justice league
I would think of Hawkman before I think mister terrific
@@purpleheartneptune6267 Terrific's never actually been a formal member of the Justice League, only the Justice Society.
Overshadowed by his partner thanks to the cartoon. Also cuckolded, if they were dating. Were they dating? Are they siblings?
who?
Zatanna used to have that spot, but she's leading Justice League Dark so I'm fine with that.
At least GL thinking for a while about Hawkman's weapon means that he acknowledges his presence from time to time
2:32 I don't know why, but the way Batman says sad and the music cuts off just makes me laugh
If you ever want to get confused then look up Hawkman's history. Hawkman has a history that is so confusing not even DC will use him.
2:10 well other than aquaman, he does provide an easy target for the bad guys to shoot at, thought you were smarter bruce
I like how instead of Hal questioning the effectiveness of the mace, he instead questions how it is way too effective.
2:27 Batman: "Calling aquaman lame is his identity it's marketable. With him it's kinda fun it's light hearted. But with you it's kind of...
It's SAD"