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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ส.ค. 2024
- This is a short recording made of my all original 1959 Fender Tweed Champ 5F1. I am using my American Vintage Reissue '64 Telecaster with the amp. I recorded the amp with a USB dynamic mic from Samson (panned mostly left) and with the Sony A7III on-board mic (panned mostly right) for room sound. This amp is all original except it has been updated with a grounded three prong plug. I try the amp on 4 and then on 8. Please forgive my terrible guitar playing. I am thinking about selling this amp because I never have time to play anymore and I think it might be time to pass it on to someone who can really enjoy it.
This clip made my decision to buy a 1958 tweed Champ recently. It is insane the tone when it gets in the zone. Thank you.
the re-issue champ , is a very nice amp , but doesn't hold try to the the 5f1 tho very close , the re-issue isn't quite hand made more like hand assembled using pre-made wiring loom and half printed board with push fit fittings ..
If your after the tweed tone of yesteryear then I would recommend building a 5e3 tweed , some kits are so close to the original spec , with everything had wired and point to point soldering using period correct parts , and date specific capacitors and transistors .. all adds to something just a little nicer ..
This would make for some awesomely raunchy garage band tones. Now all I need is to start a band and build a garage.
I loved The Wind Cries Mary, it sounded so great
I had a '59 Champ in high school in the 90's and a "friend" I jammed with stole it in 2001 when I left it at his house for a couple months. Sold it for peanuts, I heard. Also in great shape. Mom got it retubed and some replaced caps at an amp shop here in Colorado for Christmas for me. I got it for $10 from a friend who got it from an elderly neighbor who kept it in a closet. At what point is it rude to ask where the owner of every one I see got theirs? I'm 39 and it haunts me to this day. Haunts me.
Sorry to hear about that. Maybe you will find it again someday. This one had all original caps, not one single thing had ever been changed. It even had the old electrolytic caps which I know isn't good but the amp worked and sounded great. I was in high school in the 90's as well and rocked a Peavey Bandit until finally I saved up enough to get a Mesa Boogie Subway Rocket. That was as close as I could afford to get to the Metallica sound.
I left a marshall jcm800 at my singers house in the early 90's. Within 2 months, he sold it to help pay his rent. I must of received no more than $250 back. Lesson learned, dont leave anything nice anywhere other than in your possession
I'm sure this is the definition of a crime of passion if you ever find this old 'friend'! If I'm on the jury I don't care what you do 😉
Proof that these small amps record beautifully!
Thank you. I used a cheapo USB dynamic mic and the built in cam mic for room sound. I was pretty happy with it and thought it captured the in room sound fairly well.
Sounding good! Pity they're hard to find and very expensive. I decided not to try and build a copy (I'm 73) and don't have a workshop anymore. So I bought a JOYO JTA-05 "Sweet Baby" Tube Guitar Amplifier - 5 Watt which is basically a clone. Same tubes and basic circuit only the cabinet is not tweed. It has a nice 8" Celestion speaker and a very solid cabinet. It only cost AU$220 delivered here in Australia. That makes it around US150. Good value and it sounds just right! Durn thing is loud - folks are amazed it's only 5W rms and it's got the 'vintage tube sound. :) (I used to build push pull 30W guitar amps with 12"speakers in my young days)
Thanks for the insight. I just got a Stageright 5W with 8" Celestion super 8. The circuit is pretty much the same as an early Champ. It probably sounds pretty similar to Sweetbaby, I am guessing.
On the Joyo, there's a capacitor missing. Have a look at the circuit board and you'll see the space for it, conveniently marked out with the polarity too. A 25v electrolytic in there, somewhere between 5uF and 22uF will give a little more gain and grit. It's the bypass cap for V1a. Play with the values. Fender fitted it to their amps, but left it out on some schematics.
Champs sound just fine without it. They tend to stay a little cleaner for longer without it. I built a Champ-a-like and tried with and without, and prefer without. You can get it back with a little clean boost anyway. If you modify it to closer to the 5f2a circuit, it's worth adding to help compensate for losses within the tone control.
You could add a bypass to V1b too, but things tend to get flubby. Great for lo-fi though.
You'll pry my Champ-a-like from my cold, dead hands.
I tend to build sub 5W amps. I've built push-pull and single ended. All the tone, at home friendly volumes.
Did the Joyo have tube rectifier ?
Wow. My dream amp sounding sweet. Lovely overdriven sound
If that sounds half as good as it does on my headphones I NEED ONE ! DAMN !
It's actually a fairly simple circuit. You could probably build one if you are willing to brave the waters of high voltage, and be willing to spend around $250 US in parts.
@@uso9375 i did one and it is awsome
@@uso9375 Built one also. Don't like the RCA phono design. Looking to change to 1/4 jack for more speaker options.
Excellent, excellent, excellent practice amp. So are the a764 design champs (do Weber mod).
These lil amps love distortion peddle level. Gain adj not really needed because it breaks nicely.
Thanks, glad you liked it. I made this video to help me sell it and I did sell it a few months ago. I am using a Kemper Profiler now and while it is good and there are some good champ profiles, it isn't quite the same as the real deal in the room. That's for sure.
@@muhammadsteinberg a764 design champ? Weber mod? Could you please elaborate. Thank you.
I have a 54 and 62 Fender champ and a 78 Silverface, just mic em up and away you go love the vid
I've got a 63 Tweed Champ in pretty much the same condition as yours. Sweet amp!
Sounded FANTASTIC!!!
Damn!! Even through my phone speaker that sounded good!! You’ve got a little gem there :D
Thanks. I did have a great amp. I sold it and now I am rocking a Kemper Profiler. I just can't rock that loud anymore with little children sleeping.
shizzaq could never do it man hats off to you I’d rebuild the garage before I did that. Lol kempers while they sound good I can still sense that there’s something missing you can’t replicate a tube all the way with digital it’s analog to digital which usually just isn’t the same.
@@shizzaq That's like a sin dude. No offense but you'll regret that big time one day.
that tone is just... wow! really screams when you smack the strings; best part of tiny class a amps, imo.
Possibly the greatest amp EVER....
Enjoyed the amp and the playing.
Thank you, much appreciated.
Unbelievably good!
Yowzza! Great tone and the playing ain't bad.
Derek and the Dominoes “Layla and other assorted love songs” and many Stones tracks were recorded using only a Champ.
Actually, they also used Pigface amps, of all things on Layla.
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great amp! thanks for posting!
friendly suggestion: it's a small thing, because this sounds so good in stereo, but i noticed a slight lag in one channel timewise, and when i tried listening in mono, the channels summed together in a funky way. try it and see what i mean sometime. it's gotta be from the difference in physical distance from the source to each mic. people run into it in recording studios all the time. you're just getting cancellation in a bunch of frequencies. if you get very ambitious there are a couple easy fixes, in order of hassle: try flipping the phase on one channel if that's an option, L and R sound like they could be that far apart. better yet, apply a delay to the mic closest to the amp, about 1ms per foot difference between mics. or probably easiest if you have editing software, if you can mess with the audio tracks just zoom in to see where a sound starts and drag the early one back to match the other's starting point. hope that's useful for ya.
Cripes ya gots a keen ear there matey
That room is doing a lot of work, still great amp but even nicer room
Haha yeah this was recorded many years ago but I used a close mic and then a room mic which was just my living room with hardwood floors. I mixed the room mic mostly to one side and the close mic to the other sounds. Someone told me it sounds shite when summed to mono but in stereo it sounds as close recorded as it sounded live on the room to me.
It's a cool set up you have and nice playing
For $250 I just scored an all original 1959 Lectrolab r200b, tones like a tweed fender champ (this particular model mistakenly says 25 watts on it when in reality it is 5 watts). So the actual biggest difference is the price-4 months ago an all original ‘59 champ on reverb sold for $4300
Beautiful!!
Glorious.
Awesome !
That sounded great!
Undisputed !!!
that was awesome
Very nice tone
Glorious U_U
single ended amps... that distortion :)
Nice amp!
That sounds awesome!
That sounds INCREDIBLE!!! And you're playing is great as well.
May I ask what speaker is in this Champ?
And would you say it was loud or very loud when you recorded this video with the volume knob at 4?
I've been looking at the new ones. But was wondering if there was any difference because all the demoes (with the exception of the official Fender demos) sound pretty bleh
So sorry it took me so long to reply. This amp had the original speaker. Just an 8 inch alnico speaker. I am guessing it was a Jensen. Thank you so much for the compliments. At level 4 it was fairly loud. Like a little louder than you could sing un-mic'ed. You could mic the amp and play a gig with it I think. I tried a newer weber speaker and to be honest with this amp that gritty champ tone is coming from the amp. I don't think it sounded much different with the weber speaker.
@@shizzaq Thanks for getting back to me! Good to know regarding the volume level at 4 because I have neighbors on the other side of the wall. Hope I don't get any complaints if I manage to get one of these amps
Sounds great but because of that 8" speaker, it lacks in the bottom end. This is probably why Fender listed this amp under the "Practice amp" category. Personnally, I prefer the sound of their 57 custom deluxe Tweed amp in the same series. It just sounds more professionnal!
This isn't a reissue '57 champ from that series though
The mic is right on the centre of the cone and an inch back....
I think I like the amp set at 4
Steven Byrne I own one and agree....
My 58 likes vol 4 as well
Yes. That's the sweet spot for me on this amp and was the sweet spot for the 5D3 Tweed Deluxe my friend had as well. Just set it at 4 and and play some more.
I had a 59 it’s crazy how much these go for even the reissues. Wonder if the reissues sound any good
I tried a reissue before I bought this and I do not think it sounded as good. I got this for around the same price as a reissue went for about 10 years ago. I sold the amp shortly after making this video for $1800. I basically doubled my money in 10 years and had a blast playing it all that time.
shizzaq ya bought mine for $1000 sold it for $1500 about half a year later so I did alright on mine as well
@josh grant I mean, if you buy a great amp and 10 years down the line not only has it risen in value but in top of that, you don't really have time to play it much, then I'd say it's just a good decision to sell it
I have the 2010 reissue and love it. This one though has the extra shine
not bad playing at all!
Please, could anyone tell me what song is that played before the Hendrix's one?
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Amazing amp! I love the first song, do you know the name of it? Thanks!
Thank you sir just went and listened and the first little thing I play is my hack attempt at playing Breathe by Pink Floyd from Dark Side of the Moon.
@@bakerfamily3187 thanks!
Классно звучит.
Joe Walsh used one of these amps: th-cam.com/video/U_qHU_6Ofc0/w-d-xo.html
Does it cut through drums?
If the drummer played softly it could hang but just barely. I’d recommend a tweed deluxe for that. The champ is more for jamming at home.
That sounds like it has a JBL or a ceramic speaker? What is the speakers?
It had the Jenson alnico speaker. Weird thing is I put a weber ceramic blue pup in it and that thing basically sounded identical. I think a lot of the tone from this amp came from the amp itself and less the speaker and honesty that quite surprised me.
What’s the song 2:29
That is my hack attempt at Gimme Three Steps by Lynyrd Skynyrd.
The Champ only has a volume knob?
The original ones did and 57 Reissues do, as well. However, one difference between the originals and the reissue is that on the originals the volume knob turns the amp on, but the reissue have a standard toggle switch.
0:27 what's that song? can't get the name in my head
That's my hack attempt at the opening riff to Last Dance With Mary Jane by Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers.
shizzaq I’ve been trying to nail that song for years idk how but I can never get it juuuust right! Pretty good here too!!
@@okaytastic6691 Make sure you play an Am7 (with pinky on fret 3 of the high E string) on the second Aminor. That’s part of the magic of that intro.
@@s2seltaeb thanks! You’re right!
what terrible guitar playing?...beautiful tone and delivery!
You still planning on selling this thing?
If it aint broke
Mark Lowe don’t fix it
still for sale?
You still selling this amp?
I sold the amp to a nice chap in southern California. The amp has returned to the place of it's birth more or less. I am playing a Kemper now. Not quite as much fun but a really great piece of kit.
...mm dudoso sonido...latoso,anémico,sin aire.....raro,muy raro.