What does it cost to start Dinghy Cruising ?
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- To build or buy a dinghy? what you should consider and a brilliant cruise around Myall Lakes with 9 boats plus more viewers boats from around the world. PART 2 COMING SOON #woodenboatsarebetter #sailing #dinghycruising
Thanks to Dave and Josh for extra footage
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As I watched the boats of subscribers at the end, I thought, “I should do that”. Then to my surprise, there I was in my Flying Scot. I had forgotten that I had already sent you a photo. I enjoy your videos greatly. Very well done, informative, and entertaining. Thank you!
Thanks for sending the photo again I have received lots so it takes a while to show them all, thanks for watching again, keep a look out for Part 2 ...it's good ,cheers Paul
I have a Flying Scot down here in Virginia. I lived in the Outer Banks, NC for years. There is big wind there. It is where the Wright Brothers first flew. Nice boat!
Perfect Friday night viewing - Thanks Paul 😀😃😄😁😆
Thanks, probably better with a glass of red, cheers Paul
Always a treat when Paul shows up on TH-cam!
Hi Mike, wow I was just looking up your email address. Someone called Gary will be sailing to Iwate next year and wants to catch up with you (he saw your seahopper photo)are you ok with that? I have asked him for his email address. When he sends it I will pass it on to you, cheers Paul
@@SailingKateLouise Sure, although I wonder how he'll be sailing to Iwate-- Certainly NOT in a wee Seahopper!
@@SailingKateLouise I just sent you my more reliable address. Thanks.
Ha Ha
I love your wooden boats. I've built a couple plywood skiffs and a strip plank canoe so I get why someone wants to build rather than buy a boat. My current project is refurbishing a 1970 Oday Mariner 19. One change I'll definitely make is adding a tabernacle to help me get the 24' mast up easier by myself. I'm 70 and currently building my third house single handed so I've little time to tinker with boats these days.
Hi Jim, yes the Mariner does have a long mast...3rd house I'm impressed cheers Paul
Love your channel. My dinghy is a shipmate 16 day boat. I can understand why people buy yachts but us dinghy sailors have lots more fun. I’m in Kent England, only 10 mins from the sea so very lucky. You do so much for us dinghy sailors and please keep the videos coming, my favourite TH-cam channel. God bless.
Thanks Charles for those kind words, I'm just trying to share the love. Send me a photo to sailingkatelouise@gmail.com and I'll put it in a video, cheers Paul
loving the journey Paul cheers mate
Thanks Stephen, thanks for watching, cheers Paul
Thanks for the great vid, it was great to see the other boats and how the owners had made the changes to suit there needs.
Thanks Richard, hopefully it will inspire others, cheers Paul
Great job guys !!! That looks like fun.
Thanks for watching, cheers Paul
Brilliant production as we have come to expect Paul. I m glad you guys got some good weather.
Thanks Bruce we had fun but not that crystal clear water you guys experienced...or whales...or dolphins....or turtles...or deserted islands....I could go on, cheers Paul
Awesome stuff, especially when Trim is in front of Lisa Jane momentarily. Like what you are doing with the channel, very engaging stuff.
Thanks Josh trying something a bit different, cheers Paul
😎 a most wonderful video...excellent sound and imagery....with a exquisitely paced story and conversation...Thankyou...
My pleasure Peter glad you enjoyed it , part 2 next week is even better, cheers Paul
Another great video Paul glad you had a good time at myall lakes. Cheers Steve
Thanks Steve we were relatively lucky with the weather, I hope you had a good trip up north ,cheers Paul
What a great intro revamp! Very professional.
Thanks Holly,Gene cheers Paul
Great new intro. Looked like a great weekend for sailing. Lots of wind.
Thanks, yep in part 2 ....coming, we had the best days sail up and down the lake as the wind was with us in both directions which is rare, thanks for watching, cheers Paul
Love the additional b&w lead-in to your regular intro. Looking good.
Thanks mate always trying something different, thanks for watching, cheers Paul
GREAT STUFF! Great boats, great people great fun, thanks!
My pleasure thanks for watching , cheers Paul
Another great video - looking forward to joining you for my first raid soon!
Great Bill looking forward to meeting you, I will post an event soon if nobody else does, cheers Paul
nice video man. i dig this small boat stuff. interestingly, the music you played ive only heard on one other channel. good stuff for sailing. been wanting to get a mirror but dang that is a spendy boat to buy the kit for. buying used seems to be the only alternative.
Hi, you can normally find cheaper boats second hand on Gumtree or Facebook market place if you are in Australia. If your in the States I can't help but there must be some out there somewhere. Don't give up looking, cheers Paul
I love these "buy or build" and cost videos.
A person can build a flattie skiff, or a garvey (pram bow flat bottom) for a low cost. Though, the lowest still is buying a fixer-upper.
Well yes but some fixer uppers end up costing a fortune....hence the 1 dollar boats for sales, cheers Paul
Getting better all the time, more professional, and more interesting keeping the story focused.
Thanks mate, cheers Paul
Wow Great sailing
Thanks mate, thanks for watching, cheers Paul
Great video again Paul. It was really useful seeing Chris's tabernacle and mods.... I think I might remake mine now. 🤔
Glad to help, he just used leftover decking...looks good, thanks for watching, cheers Paul
I love the idea of a 6 year old out on the trapeze. Way more fun than kids toys.😂
I agree thanks for watching, cheers Paul
Saw you under full sail in Josh's vid earlier; K L is by far the best looking boat in a flotilla of beauties. It is nice that every one has come up with mods that make life easier, or improve the handling of their boat. Very nice pics once again.
Thanks Dale, hopefully a few more Stornaways will come out of the woodwork and join us, thanks for watching again, cheers Paul
Another great video thanks a Paul
My pleasure Dave , thanks for watching, cheers Paul
This is really cool. Dinghy sailing is the way! Im building a Weekender (Stevenson) here in Brazil (working on the cabin roof today). Best wishes to you all!
Hi Rodrigo, please send my a couple of build photos to sailingkatelouise@gmail.com I would love to see the boat, cheers Paul
Going from strength to strength, young fellow! 👍
Hi thanks for that, look out for part 2 more info, more boats and more drone, cheers Paul
I cruise my 1971 Wayfarer here in Flordia about 50 days a yeaar. I just did a video showing projects upgrades and apx costs for the 9 years I have sailed her. I spend about $1k US a hear or $20 per day of sailing!
Thanks Dan. Have you sent me a photo to sailingkatelouise@gmail.com ? cheers Paul
A good little video
Paul in Canada
Thanks Paul in Canada from Paul in Sydney
Was looking for your mate Dave and the Cherry, saw it moored up and that was it. As a fellow Cherry owner was looking to see how he's got it sorted
Hi, there is more of Dave in part 2 ....coming, he is about to do a repaint and hopefully I'll follow that process and you can see his modifications then . Also there is another raider Ralph who I haven't met yet, he also has a Cherry 16.Thanks for watching, cheers Paul
At the end you've got Rob's Bliss as a Hartley 14, I thought it was a 16? Another brilliant video...I've been binging on them. :)
Hi yes Rob has a 16, Len has a 14, thanks for watching, cheers Paul
Hi Paul. I’ve only just discovered your videos & I’m loving them. Looks like you all have a ton of fun. I haven’t sailed since I was a kid, now you’ve got me thinking about getting back into it! I’m curious, what are the little red flags with the yellow crosses that most of you seem to fly? What do they mean? Looking forward to the next video! Cheers from Cairns.
Hi Mick thanks for watching, the flags are maritime code R and as we are a raid group we've adopted the R flag. Raid is a European /American idea where a group of small boats go somewhere and sleep aboard or camp(vikings) but no pillaging. Thanks for watching again, cheers Paul
As usual, a very enjoyable “raid”! Pleased to see my Penobscot 13 made the video, but I’m in Maine, not Oregon. No worries, I think it’s great that you’re posting so many different types of dinghy’s!
Sorry about that, trying to be accurate please forgive, cheers Paul
@@SailingKateLouise No worries! Happy to be included!
Here's my take: there are absolutely awesome free boats everywhere if you spend a little time. You can find a great glass hill and deck of any side you want, if you spend a bit extra time you will find a very acceptable boat with all the rigging, sails, trailer, everything that just needs mostly a lot of cleaning up to be ready to cruise for under 1500. bucks .... It's fun to go check out a bunch of old boats looking for a diamond in the rough.... To each his own but I would not own a wood boat ... Glass is almost completely maintenance free and literally last forever.
Very true and yes there are many fibreglass boats in good nick that owners no longer love and just want to get rid of. But there are also a lot of free boats, that are not free after the expense of renovating, fixing, repairing hidden problems etc. As for timber boats they often have that certain something that makes them appealing and worth the effort of revarnishing etc. that glass boats just don't have. I've had both and though glass boats do last forever but they don't have that je ne c'est quoi that I love, thanks for watching, cheers Paul
Hi Paul, Yours is a great channel to watch as we chill through the UK winter. Please can you share the approximate sizes of your anchor buddy? Silicone tube can be expensive here, so I would like to base a purchase on trial and error. I guess that's some sort of electrical cable wrap as protection. Keep making those vids for us dinghy cruisers! Thanks in advance, Peter
Hi Peter yes Silicone tube is not cheap. The anchor buddy is 12ft long stretching to they say 50 ft. It's about 12mm in diameter with a 2mm wall thickness. I couldn't find any knock off alternatives to Anchor buddy here. In Australia 12mm tube is about $30 per metre so it's cheaper to buy the original from the states at about $100 including postage and tax. cheers Paul
Great video again! I am very envious of these wooden boats, but could only afford a (very) secondhand wayfarer. After looking at the cherry, and I think hartley with a cuddy cabin, i wonder if you know of anyone had put a wooden top on a wayfarer? At least it would be part wood, and give me a more comfy weekender.
Hi Steve, I,m about to make a video on Bruce who is adding a cabin to a Heron and converting it to a Cat rig, should be interesting.The Wayfarer must be big enough to add a small cuddy cabin....hopefully someone will see this comment and offer some advice, cheers Paul
There are so many almost free boats on Craigslist in the states. New sails for the last 17’ boat I bought were less than $700. Trailers always need a few repairs, tires, and registration. It is so much less expensive starting with an old boat and spend time modifying and customizing. Build a custom cuddy, or sew a custom tent.
Thanks Mike, yes there are quite a lot of cheap boats here but not many classic looking timber boats mainly grp and I agree it's fun modifying etc. thanks for watching, cheers Paul
I'm really a newbie at sailing. I think this is a great way to get ones feet wet literally and figuratively.
Dinghy cruising combines the best of both worlds, camping and sailing, you will have lots of fun, thanks for watching, cheers Paul
I have always wondered what the significance was for flying the 'R' signal pendant on boats in your area? ...... I have never seen that done here on the east coast of America.
Is it to signify that you belong to a particular yacht club?
High we are called Sydney Raid so we have adopted the R flag , that's all. It's also the regional flag of the Skone area in northern Sweden, thanks for watching, cheers Paul
I have a question. Talking about building boats minus the cabin, and looking at Josh's boat afterwards, when he mentions capsizing, made me wonder... what if a boat like Kate Louise, with a cabin, goes over and the cabin fills with water? Is it possible to right it without help? Does all that water in the cabin hold it inverted?
Hi Luke , I hope not...there is built in buoyancy under the bunks and in the transom and according to the designer it will not sink...but I don't want to put it to the test. There is a bulkhead between the cockpit and the cabin which is about a foot high (like the Hartley) and that should stop any water getting into the cabin area, cheers Paul
Are plans available for the cygnet 15? Is this boat made by cygnet wooden boats?
Hi Craig yes it was built by Cygnet wooden boats down in Tassie. They built 6 a few years ago and we called it a Cygnet 15 as it didn't have an official name. I don't know if plans are available, Contact Jez at Cygnet Wooden Boats for more info. Cheers Paul
I want to build my own boat, but I’m not very experienced at sailing. I’m thinking I might buy something used first to get some experience before deciding on a design to build.
Hi Aaron, yes it seems building a boat is definitely a project of love and maybe that sense of achievement is what it's all about, thanks for watching, cheers Paul
Definitely get a second hand boat first. Your boat needs change as you become more experienced. You will want to really know which design before you start building. If you have room and budget, start in the 14-15ft size. That’s where you get a good mix of space and performance. Josh
Smart money is to buy second hand. I live in a boat-rich environment here in the PugetSound area of the US. There is a rather lage commnity of small boat enthusiasts and self builders. It's not unusual to find nicely crafted small boats for sale by owner/builder, or by third owner. Often at much lower cost than it took to build them.
That said, gone are the days of DIY to save money. Everything has skyrocketed. If you are a retired doctor or engineer, that doesn't apply so much to you. Retire as a truck driver: Keep reading.
Cheap, capable boats can be had, but they are NOT wooden self-built. Pretty much any run of the mill 1970's 1980's fiberglass trailer sailer can be bought for under $3000. I've owned several, a couple of them were very good designs. More expensive glass sailboats, such as the un-matched Montgomery 17, is going to run you from $3000-$5000, and they will be rough, but still as capable as a 1970's Jeep CJ-5.
As to cost of ownership? I've had a couple wooden boats, and a slew of glass ones. Best advice for a wood boat off season:
1)Store it indoors, sails folding loosely with good ventilation. Have it on a cradle or a trailer that cradles it evenly. Avoid heating the place, but have a fan running gently all the time. That's for the Pacific Northwest.
2) select a sail plan that is as simple as possible, requiring as few gadgets and goodies as possible. Every time you buy something thatsays 'boat' on it, you lose. Consider cleats of self carved wood instead of stainless or bronze hardware. Small sails don't require the expensive smooth blocks for hoisting or sail mangament. Simple alternatives exsisted long before there ever was a synthetic block or tackle system.
Glass boats are virtually indestructible, unless you run them onto the rocks at high speed, or they are from an area of very hot sun exposure AND subsequent rain exposure. It is not required of you to cut out and patch every point of deck rot in order toget enjoymet out of small boat cruising. Stresses that would rip apart the hardpoints on a 30 footer simply do not exist on a sailing dinghy. As long as your chain plates, and decking hardware are fairly well attached, just go sailing. So don't spend your valuable time and money putting lipstick on a pig.
...okay, ive done that, but I'm jus' sayin'
Polishing the hull is always allowed. A badly oxidized fiber glass boat can be brought almost back to new shine with a couple hard days of work for almostno money. But you won't want to do it twice. Trust me.
Thanks mate some very wise advice that I will share and you are right....just get on the water, thanks for watching ,cheers Paul
What is that tune you have playing at 15:45?
Hi I can't remember the exact name, but it's by the composer and Musician Mike Vass who is one of Scotland;'s finest. His music is beautiful and he has let me use a lot of his tunes on sailing Kate Louise. Youcan get his music through Bandcamp.com, cheers Paul
ahhhh, you can buy a yacht far cheaper than building one. The hull is "cheap" but the sail, mast and associated rigging? My Hartley TS16 cost me $2,800. On trailer. The build? around $15,000 without trailer. Mind you. There is FAR more pleasure in building .
and you get it as you want it.
Hi John yes in Australia there are a lot of secondhand Hartleys, I nearly bought one, but not many with a gaff rig. Did yours have much ply damage? cheers Paul
@@SailingKateLouise Ours was built in '75. Came with two sets of sails. The hull was in very good shape. All we did was add flotation and repainted her. Oh, And changed her name with a re naming ceremony
Good to see you alive here John, I use to see you a lot on the Yahoo forums till they shut those all down.
Some people like sailing. Some people like building. A subset of those enjoys both.
I know several people that enjoy building more than sailing a boat.
If you just want to get on the water and enjoy having a boat, buying second hand can be the fastest route there and often cost less than building one yourself.
I built a trimaran that took about 9 months of my free time and close to $5000 all in. Since then, I've discovered i could have bought something similar used for $3500.
Hi , yes I'm addressing the why and wherefores in part 2 keep a look out for that, cheers Paul
@@SailingKateLouise Thanks. It turned out making kayaks was just a gateway drug to the harder stuff. Eight boat builds later and I'm building a self-designed blue water trimaran...after I built the 50x50 ft shed to build it in.
@@wisenber Oh you have to send me a photo...sailingkatelouise@gmail.com
I am not sure if my 21 foot sailboat Sweet Pee qualifies as a Dinghy sailor but it sure does get around with a lot of dinghys. It only drafts 10 inches of water
Jean what design is she?
@@SailingKateLouise an Aquarius 21. Also known as a balboa.
How is security for your car and trailer when you head off like this?
Hi Steve I think it's fine, I always put a trailer lock on if I'm going away for a few nights. Mind you on the last trip Josh had a flat tyre when he goy back to the carpark and Ollie go bogged in the grass car park and had to be pulled out by Dave....so every trip is an adventure.Thanks for watching, cheers Paul
The title is a little misleading. I thought I was going to get much more info on the cost to start dinghy cruising. Thanks any way
Let me know exactly what you need to know and I'll do my best to answer...basically in Australia the cost is between $3000 and $10,000 to buy and anywhere from $10,000 to &50,000 to have built. Thanks for watching, cheers Paul
Hi Paul
Some of your shots would be fantastic classic paintings. Well done.
Paul I have a favor to ask. I will be sailing back up the east coast of Japan next year and I see that one of your dinghy photos is in Iwate. It is titled "Mike Seahopper Iwate Japan". Could you put him in contact with me as I will be pulling into 2 or 3 ports in Iwate and would love to catch up with another sailor, Thanks Gary in japan.
Sure Gary I will try and contact him, what is a good email address to contact you, cheers Paul
Hi Gary, mike lives in Iwate his email is
unher@icloud.com
Thank you Paul. Enjoyed the interesting interviews with other sailors and their boats (and innovations). I can relate to their enthusiasm but all seems a little expensive. Nonetheless, I will keep dreaming and continue to watch your videos!
Glad you enjoyed it, cheers Paul
As pointed out below, learn on a cheap CL boat all the while looking for the dinghy you'd like. Repair parts over time helps spread the cost out a bit.
@@olivei2484 Thanks mate yes it all takes time and I think all of our group have owned previous dinghys, thanks for watching , cheers Paul
@@olivei2484 Good advice, thank you.
Spotted gum is the World’s strongest wood by weight per section.
I didn't know that , cheers Paul
Hey great buy on gumtree same boat as your boat Paul really cheap
send me the link, cheers Paul
@@SailingKateLouise hey Paul it is under nsw gumtree under sailboats $6000 great buy looks nice cheers steve
Did you find the add paul
Having a look now
Looks like a real bargain
8 minutes in and still nothing about what it costs to go dinghy sailing except a “not cheap”
Be patient, I couldn't get it all in, in one part . Next week part 2 with boat suggestions prices and a boat perfect for dinghy cruising for sale in Australia, cheers Paul
It will cost a marriage. Then the shed becomes your new home. Eventually you will add water to the whole mess and you will be out there with the rest of us old farts sailing around alone.
Oh Jean, don't say that, you are depressing me. We are only old codgers because the younger generation haven't discovered the joy of sailing because they are stuck in the fast lane....anyway my shed is not big enough.Thanks for watching, cheers Paul
@@SailingKateLouise lol. Those were my girlfriends comments. I was laughing my butt off and added them to push her buttons. She’s actually cruising with me on this little boat.
I tried posting a photo on TH-cam but it won’t work. What. Was your email and I’ll send you a photo. Or you can copy it off my channel. Thanks. Cheers Jean.