Turning Tip #5 Buffing and Burnishing--What's the Difference? with Sam Angelo
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- Sam discusses burnishing and buffing and how he approaches each technique in his turning shop. He found that defining these terms was a bit complicated.
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So burnishing is to use a hard material to compress the surface fibers to smooth them, and buffing is to abrade using an abrasive or finish (or not) on a softer applicator to smooth and polish with just some compression?
Good question-I think you are correct. But I will "try" to explain myself better in my next notes' video. Sam
Happy New Year Sam. The past years have been great, both in education and entertainment. Here is looking forward to 2020, another great year of education and entertainment. Always something interesting going on.
Happy New Year Sam. I think about burnishing as compressing the grain. when we cut on wood with any tool or put
any moisture on it, the grain raises, think of grain as microscopic hair, burnishing flattens this.
Now I understand, thank you for this comment.
Ive been wondering about this. Im a total novice.. ive noticed that rubbing pieces of wood with hard objects like wooden handles etc makes it shiny and feeling hard. Google is not what it used to be. I guess its called burnishing?
Compressing the grain sounds right. I appreciated this comment.
Would you please identify your chuck and jaws? Thanks
Scorching the wood before burnishing it is the very LAST thing I would do if I'm looking for a beautiful finish...the saw dust is a very good burnish material, paper towels are fair, but I get the best work from just plain old brown paper bags...make a pad from layers of the paper and keep turning it over and using different parts of the pad, and the more you use it, the better it works until it falls apart in my hands...this works before or after staining/dying; dry and no sealers other than maybe a little oil or wax.
Sam have you been taking better care of yourself? You look better than I have ever seen you.
Sam, very interesting video. Am I right in my conclusion that the real difference between burnishing and buffing is the use or non use of a polishing compound ? When you showed burnishing, you used wood, bone etc and a cotton polishing / buffing mop, but just as it was, I saw no lubricants, so you were just relying on friction to give a high sheen. You also stated that buffing was usually done after the wood had been totally finished albeit lacquer or CA etc and using various grades of a polishing compound. Could you buff bare wood to a high gloss ? Happy New Year to you and the Family.
I agree 100% with your synopsis. I think you got my point in the difference between buffing and burnishing. Burnishing is done on unfinished raw wood with no lubricant (I like that description). Buffing bare wood to a high gloss could happen-but I would call it burnishing. Sam
You always make great videos Sam very informative I prey you have a save 20/20.
Top video Sam,great bit of info for those new turners out there!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks for the video, Sam. Loved it! I espicially enjoyed seeing that magnificent hollow form at the end.
Well
That’s a pretty messed up piece of wood
Thanks Sam. I haven't tried much burnishing I think I'll try a piece. George in Texas
Always good info from you Sam all the best to you in this new year take care. Y.N.W.A.
Perfect....
Thanks for share....🙏
Happy New Year Sam!👍🏻👍🏻
Try Brown paper bag does wonders
Great tips there Sam, thank you.
Hi sam cool advice.
Good info...I just burnished a piece today for the first time using shavings.
Thanks for sharing...!
Sam, I am thoroughly enjoying this series! My favorite tool for burnishing is an old, extremely worn leather belt. I do not worry about burning the wood or finish because of the oils from the tanning process.
Thanks John I jhadn't thought about using a leather belt for bunishing
Great idea, I have lots of leather scraps. Sam
good info sam!
The dirty wheel in the video. How do you clean it, by washing, using the wire brush? I have wondered about the difference between buffing and burnishing. I thought it might be a preference on how a person learned. Thank you for the video..
(From response above) Yes it is difficult to clean this wheel. I just dedicate that wheel to burnishing scorched wood or metal. Sam
This information is exactly what I needed! I know it's not quite as exciting as watching turning, but it is an important step of finishing that I have yet to get to. Usually the highest I get to is just 12,000 grit for anything like acrylic and then if I'm applying a finish, however it looks when it is done is how I've left it. I look forward to giving buffing a try and see how much more I can bring out of my work. Thanks for taking the time to present the information so well.
I would sand my lacquered pieces to 12,000 grit. But I have sprayed 15-20 coats of lacquer on the piece. Sam
Happy New Year!!! I'm trying to turn my years of metal turning skills into wood turning. Big difference. I have a lot to learn. I have a silly question I can not get an answer for. Wood you please tell me what a hollow form is used for.
It can simply be a work of art or it can be used as an urn. I do sell lots of urns.
Sam
3:15 into your video you mention a buffing wheel that you used on metal - I have the same problem with one of my buffing wheels. How do you restore it back to use on wood?
Yes it is difficult to clean this wheel. I just dedicate that wheel to burnishing scorched wood or metal. Sam
Always enjoy your videos and always learn. Would you tell me what chuck and jaws you are using? Yea I am a newby.
This is a Vicmarc chuck with long nose jaws-sometimes called O'donned jaws. Sam
Nice piece on the two, Happy New Year!
Maybe one day you could afford some gloves so you won’t have yellow fingers for a week ????
yep
Good information. What about using the shaft of a gouge or a skew for burnishing?
That would work. Sam
Very interesting Sam! Thanks for sharing and teaching!
Take care, Dave
I hope you guys are staying warm in the Basin. The wind is blowing crazy up here.
Sam
@@WYOMINGWOODTURNER A little wind ut you know how that warms things up! Dave
Sorry, Sam.... have to disagree with your new decade statement. 2020 is the last year of the decade that started with 2011.
When you count to 10, you start with 1 and count the 10 in that decade... then start with 1 again. 2011 - 2020 is the next decade.
I'm sure a few folks will disagree, but think it through first before blastoff.
I still love the channel, and will not stop watching & wishing you the best.
Ray, just because you start counting to 10 with "1" does not make a new decade start with a 1 and not a 0. It has more to do with using Julian calendar or the moon and stars or basing it on the birth of Jesus. There are correct and incorrect ways of looking at, "when a new decade begins." I am just not sure why it is important even bringing it up. One last point, I would think that the vast majority of people believe that 2020 IS the year a new decade starts. Even if this is not correct, it becomes the accepted norm for society. Sam
@@WYOMINGWOODTURNER You're right about that, and accepted norms do always become the most difficult to change. I think I'll just keep watching and learning while I stand amazed that there were no pitchforks and torches in my yard after I said it.