Clarification for the Kodama/Bounceland situation. A bounce land and anything that spits out a permanent on land fall. Kodama sees the permanent and lets you play the bounceland you just bounced.
Let’s go man. Flubs was one of the legends I saw and thought “now how do I build you…” Time to lie down and listen to deck tech before bed. Hope to see more deck techs soon, def my favorite vids from you guys
On the subject of milling your opponents out as a wincon, I would suggest adding "Altar of the Brood" in this list. With all of the ramp and landfall triggers going off, it's a great passive mill effect for this kind of gameplay.
I believe you can get all of your lands out of your deck if you have retreat to coralhelm, flubs, scaled herbalist and abundance to draw every land and put it on the battlefield at instant speed lol.
I’m noticing a lot of these decks have little to no recursion for non lands. In my testing the graveyard gets full fast and those cards are just going to sit there
A clarification in your video about the bounceland infinite would be helpful. Fortunately I figured it out but from the comments I'm seeing it doesn't look like most people will. Hell even maybe a pinned comment.
I play in a bit of a higher level pod but i really enjoy the deck. Would swapping Burgeoning for exploration (both enchant) be good because it COULD benefit me more than just 1 additional land per turn?
When I build decks I typically build them a few times to tune it to where I like it. At one point in time I included both burgeoning and exploration in the list, but refined it and took exploration out. After reading your comment I realized I removed the wrong card. I completely agree with making the swap, and would recommend it, as burgeoning can shut down quickly since you are trying to play the top deck game. -David
Very unique commander. . . But I'm disappointed in the generic landfall direction. Tatyova would probably even be a better commander for this build, and you'd only have to replace the nine red cards in this list. 😕 Where are the weird cards that are good with this weird commander? What about Eruth, Manabond, or Null Brooch? Heck, not even Song of Creation made it? Bah.
I’m confused by the kodama infinite? Doesn’t it end once you put the gruul turf into play when the ability resolves for the first time. It won’t trigger again because gruul turf was put onto the battlefield by kodamas ability?
agreed, I don't think its infinite you can only play it, return it, and keep playing again for as many additional land plays you have. If flubs is the only extra land per turn then the way it goes is land per turn: gruul turf return gruul turf play gruul turf with kodama return gruul turf play 2nd land: gruul turf return gruil turf play gruul turf with kodama return a land that stays in hand
The combo requires a third card that produces a permanent on landfall. Lets take Tireless Provisioner as an example. It creates a food or treasure token on landfall. Kodama of the East Tree must be on the battlefield. Tireless Provisioner must be on the battlefield. Guildless Commons(or any bounce land) must be in hand. Play Guildless Commons. Guildless Commons enters the battlefield, triggering itself, Tireless Provisioner, and Kodama. Resolve the Kodama trigger, choosing to put nothing onto the battlefield from your hand. Resolve the Guildless Commons trigger targeting itself, returning it from the battlefield to your hand. Resolve the Tireless Provisioner trigger, creating a Food or a Treasure token. The Food or Treasure token enters the battlefield, triggering Kodama, putting Guildless Commons from your hand onto the battlefield. Guildless Commons enters the battlefield, triggering itself and Tireless Provisioner. From here you repeat the combo which in return grants you: Infinite colored mana. Infinite Food tokens. Infinite landfall triggers. Infinite lifegain. Infinite lifegain triggers. Infinite Treasure tokens.
Clarification for the Kodama/Bounceland situation. A bounce land and anything that spits out a permanent on land fall. Kodama sees the permanent and lets you play the bounceland you just bounced.
Was talking with the LGS owner about Flubs. He was like “I see the Simic, but where’s the red?” “The red is in the reckless abandon.”
Feels like his abilities are split mono green and izzet landfall strats in that order
Let’s go man. Flubs was one of the legends I saw and thought “now how do I build you…”
Time to lie down and listen to deck tech before bed. Hope to see more deck techs soon, def my favorite vids from you guys
We are definitely looking at making more!
Been waiting on the king of deck building
i made a deck with flubs and it’s one of my favorites. i’ve decked out twice with it now i love it. one of the most fun decks to pilot
On the subject of milling your opponents out as a wincon, I would suggest adding "Altar of the Brood" in this list. With all of the ramp and landfall triggers going off, it's a great passive mill effect for this kind of gameplay.
I would recommend tunneling geopede, it's a 3 cost version of spitfire lagac and with two of them going it speeds up the damage nicely
I believe you can get all of your lands out of your deck if you have retreat to coralhelm, flubs, scaled herbalist and abundance to draw every land and put it on the battlefield at instant speed lol.
My prince
I’m noticing a lot of these decks have little to no recursion for non lands. In my testing the graveyard gets full fast and those cards are just going to sit there
I learned about ashaya the hard way. Cast cyclonic rift overloaded but their non token creatures are not affected 😂😂
A clarification in your video about the bounceland infinite would be helpful. Fortunately I figured it out but from the comments I'm seeing it doesn't look like most people will.
Hell even maybe a pinned comment.
Totally understandable!
You need a lot of flashback, permanents that allow you to discard cards for effects, and casting from top of library
I mean that’s just a different way to build the deck, this is a different archetype
Curious if Riley had played with this deck, and it has changed at all over time? ^.^
I’m definitely going to build this. Just gotta save up 😅
I play in a bit of a higher level pod but i really enjoy the deck. Would swapping Burgeoning for exploration (both enchant) be good because it COULD benefit me more than just 1 additional land per turn?
now it could also flop but that means opponents flop as well
When I build decks I typically build them a few times to tune it to where I like it. At one point in time I included both burgeoning and exploration in the list, but refined it and took exploration out. After reading your comment I realized I removed the wrong card. I completely agree with making the swap, and would recommend it, as burgeoning can shut down quickly since you are trying to play the top deck game. -David
@@GuysThatMagic Thank you for your opinion, i think I will playtest with both and see which one i find more comfortable.
@@izaakfredman7611which one did you like better
It’s a crime how you described springheart nantuko
Why talisman over signets out of curiosity
Faster mana usage
Would you consider Fortune Teller’s Talent, Fisher’s Talent, and The Reality Chip?
We have a high amount of redundancy when it comes to those card effects. If you wanted to include, you should!
BOO! BOO I SAY!
Kodama can't trigger himself, so the bounce lands don't trigger him infinitely
A bounce land and anything that spits out a permanent on land fall. Kodama sees the permanent and lets you play the bounceland you just bounced.
Your land package seems wierd. Why only 1 fetch and 2 shocks? Seems like this deck would want all 9 Fetches it could run. Also no Oko or even Jace?
forgetting to add greensleeves, maro-sorcerer is criminal, even though i'm not surprised. he's rather new.
Awesome include! Just one of those that didn't make it into the build because we wanted to keep it a specific budget.
Very unique commander. . . But I'm disappointed in the generic landfall direction. Tatyova would probably even be a better commander for this build, and you'd only have to replace the nine red cards in this list. 😕 Where are the weird cards that are good with this weird commander? What about Eruth, Manabond, or Null Brooch? Heck, not even Song of Creation made it? Bah.
Honestly, I've seen more of an exile commander kinda build.
I’m confused by the kodama infinite? Doesn’t it end once you put the gruul turf into play when the ability resolves for the first time. It won’t trigger again because gruul turf was put onto the battlefield by kodamas ability?
agreed, I don't think its infinite you can only play it, return it, and keep playing again for as many additional land plays you have. If flubs is the only extra land per turn then the way it goes is
land per turn: gruul turf
return gruul turf
play gruul turf with kodama
return gruul turf
play 2nd land: gruul turf
return gruil turf
play gruul turf with kodama
return a land that stays in hand
A bounce land and anything that spits out a permanent on land fall. Kodama sees the permanent and lets you play the bounceland you just bounced.
The combo requires a third card that produces a permanent on landfall. Lets take Tireless Provisioner as an example. It creates a food or treasure token on landfall.
Kodama of the East Tree must be on the battlefield. Tireless Provisioner must be on the battlefield. Guildless Commons(or any bounce land) must be in hand.
Play Guildless Commons.
Guildless Commons enters the battlefield, triggering itself, Tireless Provisioner, and Kodama.
Resolve the Kodama trigger, choosing to put nothing onto the battlefield from your hand.
Resolve the Guildless Commons trigger targeting itself, returning it from the battlefield to your hand.
Resolve the Tireless Provisioner trigger, creating a Food or a Treasure token.
The Food or Treasure token enters the battlefield, triggering Kodama, putting Guildless Commons from your hand onto the battlefield.
Guildless Commons enters the battlefield, triggering itself and Tireless Provisioner.
From here you repeat the combo which in return grants you:
Infinite colored mana. Infinite Food tokens. Infinite landfall triggers. Infinite lifegain. Infinite lifegain triggers. Infinite Treasure tokens.
This is why you shouldn’t fuss when someone plays mass land destruction
😂