Sam had run many a noisy model engine before. One day, while out hunting for a new Hornby engine in Hattons Model Shop, he came across something on one particular dusty shelf. It was a long-forgotten 2-6-2 Small Prairie Tank Engine of the GWR kind. A member of staff approached him from behind. "Why isn't the model in a box?" asked Sam curiously. "Surely every model on sale should be packed in one, wouldn't you agree?" "I would," answered the gentleman. "This engine did come in a box, but the flimsy cardboard fell apart." Sam wondered if he dared buy an un-boxed model engine, from a good-value-for-money shop. Of course, he'd already fallen for the model hook, line and sinker, yet was undecided as to whether he should have done so. The gentleman offered to let Sam buy the engine for £30. Sam agreed and purchased the engine with the money he had in his wallet. He hoped he wouldn't have any noisy troubles. Sam returned home with his model, and retreated into the loft. He removed the thin paper bag from around the engine, and placed his purchase on the track. Now for the moment of truth. He turned the power on and tested for good slow crawl forwards. The engine juddered into life, making an awful grinding noise as Sam moved her in reverse. He had the Small Prairie Tank Engine couple up to a short goods train, and she jerked herself off the rails. Sam put her back on. The 2-6-2 tank engine was a fairly good puller, although she suffered too much wheel-slip halfway up Gordon's Hill. Apart from that, she ran round the layout so noisily that poor Sam suffered a terrible earache afterwards. He took the model back to the shop and explained about his troubles with the engine. The gentleman listened sympathetically and happily gave his customer a full refund. Sam returned home still suffering an earache. The pain relented. Talk about the noisiest engine he'd ever had the misfortune to buy. Oh well, no use crying over spilt milk.
The Gresley V2 is one of my favourite locomotives. I've been fortunate enough to see The Green Arrow up close at Shildon. Great review, great to see the V2 running on your track.
As always a job well done. I have never owned a Bachmann loco, yes I know hard to believe, but may start paying a little extra for a better build quality as my last few Hornby purchases have been very disappointing. As a gift, I recently received the Hornby Tornado Pullman train set and have constant derailments, other loco's run fine, plus the detailing (what there is) is brittle to say the least. My loyalty to modern Hornby is being tested, but my love for Tri-ang and early Hornby is enduring. Keep the uploads coming Sam.
+Caius Martius Thanks very much... I feel exactly the same - every one of my recent Hornby purchases has been disappointing in one way or another: gauging issues, poor build quality, cracks, glue marks, missing detail, broken detail and cheap motors! I'll always love tri-ang models, but just like you, I can't justify buying Hornby locos any more! Bachmann are only slightly more expensive, but their quality is FAR superior to Hornby! Cheers mate, Sam :)
Nice review, Sam, real photos and brief history. The boiler does remind me of Flying Scotsman. It's great we can celebrate the work of Gresley all these years on. Regards, Cliff.
+janiceandcliff Thanks a lot Cliff, I agree that they do look very similar to the flying Scotsman (I even once mistook the V2 at York for and A3 hehe) And yeah, I'm sure he'd be glad to know that his work still lives on :) Cheers, Sam :)
about spare parts, I don't know if bachmann does it in the U.K. but in the U.S. bachmann has a spare parts catalog on there website when my gordon's motor died i just ordered a new one
Yes that's true they do have that - though they don't always have parts for older models like these; these have been discontinued for quite a few years!! Cheers mate, Sam :)
This is probably the only 2-6-2 tender locomotive in the UK besides 2-6-2 tank engines or 2-6-2 locomotives in the USA. We don't get a lot of 2-6-2 tender locomotives in the UK.
Good review Sam . I think 7/10 pretty fair score. The latest versions of V2 have a better chassis, getting rid of the split chassis arrangement and Bachmann are bringing out a new version with a better body. The banjo dome on this version is too flat and not prominent enough. Only issue will be the price when the new model eventually arrives
+Russell Benton Thanks a lot, and I agree, the new model should be fantastic! Yeah, the price may well be an issue - but I suppose you get what you pay for, unlike with Hornby ;) Cheers mate, Sam :)
Hey Tony, are they not just screwed in place, you may need to remove the brake rigging? Are those wired on too for pickups? I forget now! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I have one of this split frame type which I have fitted a dcc chip. Works fairly well, but no comparison to the later 'hybrid' new chassis same bodywork V2. I'm looking forward to Bachmann's completely new models. You have to just love the V2. ps. I love your reviews.
+William Glover Thanks very much for the kind words - the later Bachmann locos are definitely superior, but I still find these split-chassis models to be good smooth runners! I bet you had fun fitting a chip into one though ;) Cheers, Sam :)
Great review, and of something interesting : a vintage model, and a good one ! There is something to do with such nice engines : do modelling with only second-hand engines from the '70s to the '90, for instance. It's also one other of my ideas about modelling trains, I might do something like that someday. One idea for you : why not made someday a review of model trains brands gone but not forgotten, like Triang, Mainline, Wrenn, with some iconic engines from those manufacturers as an example of what they have done in the past ? It would be not surprising to you if I tell you that I am expecting the new one by Bachmann which would be out in november this year, with an RRP of GBP 220 (no, there is no error from me)... Anyway, I'll be there for your next review of a vintage model like this one. Good job done, keep the momentum !
Another lovely video sam, I have a more modern bachmann V2, im currently in the lining out stages as ive repainted it into LNER green as Green Arrow and improved detail with some hornby A3 parts, but as I said lovely video mate, they are lovely locos, directly sized down from the A3s and a true master piece of locomotive design :)
+Colm Connolly- Taylor Thanks a lot, they are really lovely locos - I can't believe I left it until now to buy one! Best of luck with your own V2 project, hope it goes well for you! :D Cheers mate, Sam :)
+Sam'sTrains I bought mine a couple of years ago, its one of the best in my fleet, its smooth running, strong and reliable but also very rugged and thank you Sam, have you ever thought about a bachmann S&D 7f? Ive got the limited edition 88 ing sdjr blue and they are great locos to have no mater the livery
Incredible locomotive Sam ! You seem to have good tast when ot comes to locomotives and has you can tell by my profile picture I'm big fans of V2s , over all incredible review cheers!
haha!! Technically yes - there are parts of some steam locomotives (such as nameplates and other minor components) that survive, while the rest of the loco was scrapped! ;) Thanks for watching - Sam :)
These can look and run ok but Bachmann split chassis locos are a total gamble. NOS ones, in particular, often break their axle muffs on the very first run. I haven't been able to find replacement parts that really fit; the ones Bachmann sent me were hopelessly loose and the 3D printed ones I tried were very brittle. Best avoided altogether.
I really wish hornby would model a better more modern version of these underappreciated engines. Theyre a nice middle ground between the big glamorous pacifics and the smaller types.
Sam'sTrains if only I could do that in nz. there's like a couple Hobbie shops in wellington. I don't trust going online because there's lots of scams. I have a flying scotsman. it's really rough
Hey I got a idea. What about say every 1 or two months you make a vid about locos from different contrys and show them off? or make history vids about them. Did you know theres two types of J class. theres 611 and 1211
Sam great video again, first time I seen a V2 run, they remind me of the Flying Scotsman. By the way able to get the helping hands off e-bay. My closest model shop is 4 hrs drive away, buy most of my modelling supplies from your friends in north of England. Thank you for all your help. John from Oz.
+Wilso 1947 Thanks a lot John, and no problem! They are extremely similar to the Flying Scotsman in their looks, and I believe technically too. The helping hands are definitely worth while, I think I'd struggle without mine! Cheers mate, Sam :)
Hi Sam, one of my favourite locos from the LNER. Nice video and I agree on the ratings what you gave her and she is a good model for her age. Cheers mate, Lewis :D
+Lewis Shields Thanks a lot Lewis, it does seem that Bachmann have been making super detailed models for years - and I thought it was something relatively new! Oh well, it was a pleasant suprise! :D Glad you liked her, cheers, Sam :)
Sam'sTrains Thanks for replying Sam, Quite right Bachmann have been making outstanding models for some years now (including the V2). Cheers Mate, Lewis :D
The V2s were amazing! Great model! Wouldn't it be nice to see Green Arrow in steam again? I think Green Arrow should belong to the A1 Steam Locomotive Trust
Dare I say it, and I do......... as locos go it is in the same class as likable locos as Q1. There I said it. Now put on tin hat and take cover from incoming! Hehe! 😀
Sam had run many a noisy model engine before. One day, while out hunting for a new Hornby engine in Hattons Model Shop, he came across something on one particular dusty shelf. It was a long-forgotten 2-6-2 Small Prairie Tank Engine of the GWR kind. A member of staff approached him from behind.
"Why isn't the model in a box?" asked Sam curiously. "Surely every model on sale should be packed in one, wouldn't you agree?"
"I would," answered the gentleman. "This engine did come in a box, but the flimsy cardboard fell apart." Sam wondered if he dared buy an un-boxed model engine, from a good-value-for-money shop. Of course, he'd already fallen for the model hook, line and sinker, yet was undecided as to whether he should have done so. The gentleman offered to let Sam buy the engine for £30. Sam agreed and purchased the engine with the money he had in his wallet. He hoped he wouldn't have any noisy troubles.
Sam returned home with his model, and retreated into the loft. He removed the thin paper bag from around the engine, and placed his purchase on the track. Now for the moment of truth. He turned the power on and tested for good slow crawl forwards. The engine juddered into life, making an awful grinding noise as Sam moved her in reverse. He had the Small Prairie Tank Engine couple up to a short goods train, and she jerked herself off the rails. Sam put her back on.
The 2-6-2 tank engine was a fairly good puller, although she suffered too much wheel-slip halfway up Gordon's Hill. Apart from that, she ran round the layout so noisily that poor Sam suffered a terrible earache afterwards. He took the model back to the shop and explained about his troubles with the engine. The gentleman listened sympathetically and happily gave his customer a full refund. Sam returned home still suffering an earache. The pain relented. Talk about the noisiest engine he'd ever had the misfortune to buy. Oh well, no use crying over spilt milk.
haha I love it Kelly - great work again, lol! ;D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
The Gresley V2 is one of my favourite locomotives. I've been fortunate enough to see The Green Arrow up close at Shildon. Great review, great to see the V2 running on your track.
Great to hear that Edward - wow that's epic! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
''The gold thing on the front of the boiler'' is the ejector exhaust pipes attachment to the smokebox
Ahh duly noted - thank you for letting me know! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
As always a job well done. I have never owned a Bachmann loco, yes I know hard to believe, but may start paying a little extra for a better build quality as my last few Hornby purchases have been very disappointing. As a gift, I recently received the Hornby Tornado Pullman train set and have constant derailments, other loco's run fine, plus the detailing (what there is) is brittle to say the least. My loyalty to modern Hornby is being tested, but my love for Tri-ang and early Hornby is enduring. Keep the uploads coming Sam.
+Caius Martius Thanks very much... I feel exactly the same - every one of my recent Hornby purchases has been disappointing in one way or another: gauging issues, poor build quality, cracks, glue marks, missing detail, broken detail and cheap motors! I'll always love tri-ang models, but just like you, I can't justify buying Hornby locos any more!
Bachmann are only slightly more expensive, but their quality is FAR superior to Hornby!
Cheers mate,
Sam :)
Great video! the V2s really were the unsung heroes of the war! Keep it up! :)
+Why Not? Thanks a lot mate, glad you liked it! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
Nice review, Sam, real photos and brief history. The boiler does remind me of Flying Scotsman. It's great we can celebrate the work of Gresley all these years on.
Regards, Cliff.
+janiceandcliff Thanks a lot Cliff, I agree that they do look very similar to the flying Scotsman (I even once mistook the V2 at York for and A3 hehe) And yeah, I'm sure he'd be glad to know that his work still lives on :)
Cheers,
Sam :)
about spare parts, I don't know if bachmann does it in the U.K. but in the U.S. bachmann has a spare parts catalog on there website when my gordon's motor died i just ordered a new one
Yes that's true they do have that - though they don't always have parts for older models like these; these have been discontinued for quite a few years!!
Cheers mate,
Sam :)
Lner v2s are similar to the a3s but shorter length and shorter wheel configuration
This is probably the only 2-6-2 tender locomotive in the UK besides 2-6-2 tank engines or 2-6-2 locomotives in the USA. We don't get a lot of 2-6-2 tender locomotives in the UK.
Yeah you might be right there - there aren't many!!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Good review Sam . I think 7/10 pretty fair score. The latest versions of V2 have a better chassis, getting rid of the split chassis arrangement and Bachmann are bringing out a new version with a better body. The banjo dome on this version is too flat and not prominent enough. Only issue will be the price when the new model eventually arrives
+Russell Benton Thanks a lot, and I agree, the new model should be fantastic! Yeah, the price may well be an issue - but I suppose you get what you pay for, unlike with Hornby ;)
Cheers mate,
Sam :)
Interesting background information. (handling 25+ full coaches - now that is a lot of garden stones :) ) Good review of such a beautiful engine.
+itloon haha yeah, that is a lot of stones ;)
Thanks a lot for the comment,
Sam :)
For a running session, can you doublehead a v2 and a v3 tank with the tank engine in front with a fish train
That'd be awesome - great suggestion mate! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
The v classes of the knee are beautiful
I agree - can't beat knee locos! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@@SamsTrains I meant to say LNER
Any idea how to remove the front pony off the V2 as I’ve just bought a damaged one, any guidance would be appreciated? Thanks!
Hey Tony, are they not just screwed in place, you may need to remove the brake rigging? Are those wired on too for pickups? I forget now!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
It appears that after removing the screw, the pony spring mechanism is still preventing the removal. Thanks for your efforts though.... Great channel!
Great review Sam.....at some stage during my train spotting days I recorded spotting the original 60903...sadly I cannot recall when.
+mairuz1 Thanks a lot, and wow, that must have been really exciting, a shame we can't do things like that now :(
Cheers,
Sam :)
This looks stunning
It is a lovely model! :D
Like the new style review Sam , interesting to see photos of the real loco's .
Cheers. .......Peter .
+Peter Shaw Thanks a lot Peter, I thought it was time to change things up slightly!
Cheers mate,
Sam :)
Hey Sam you do realize that the LNER V2 and A1/A3 look very similar design and green arrow was in one the railway series books
They certainly do - all from the same designer too! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I have one of this split frame type which I have fitted a dcc chip. Works fairly well, but no comparison to the later 'hybrid' new chassis same bodywork V2. I'm looking forward to Bachmann's completely new models. You have to just love the V2.
ps. I love your reviews.
+William Glover Thanks very much for the kind words - the later Bachmann locos are definitely superior, but I still find these split-chassis models to be good smooth runners! I bet you had fun fitting a chip into one though ;)
Cheers,
Sam :)
+Sam'sTrains It was quite a task, but unlike other split frame locos, I was able to fit the decoder (Hattons) in the loco.
Great review, and of something interesting : a vintage model, and a good one !
There is something to do with such nice engines : do modelling with only second-hand engines from the '70s to the '90, for instance. It's also one other of my ideas about modelling trains, I might do something like that someday.
One idea for you : why not made someday a review of model trains brands gone but not forgotten, like Triang, Mainline, Wrenn, with some iconic engines from those manufacturers as an example of what they have done in the past ?
It would be not surprising to you if I tell you that I am expecting the new one by Bachmann which would be out in november this year, with an RRP of GBP 220 (no, there is no error from me)...
Anyway, I'll be there for your next review of a vintage model like this one. Good job done, keep the momentum !
Thanks a lot Oliver, glad you liked this one - that is a good idea, I might look into that - thank you! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
I wonder what the V2 loco would look like with the bullied Pacific BR tender
haha! What a cool idea - I'll see if I can do that! :D
Sam'sTrains thank you
Such a beautiful engine
+anthony hall I agree, they're fantastic and very unique! :)
Cheers,
Sam
What if hornby/bachmann use soft flexible rubber for super detail parts of locos that would be much safer than breaking it
Yeah I guess that'd work - though it may be difficult to get such detail into rubber, and I don't know how long it'd last!
Thanks for watching,
Sam :)
Another lovely video sam, I have a more modern bachmann V2, im currently in the lining out stages as ive repainted it into LNER green as Green Arrow and improved detail with some hornby A3 parts, but as I said lovely video mate, they are lovely locos, directly sized down from the A3s and a true master piece of locomotive design :)
+Colm Connolly- Taylor Thanks a lot, they are really lovely locos - I can't believe I left it until now to buy one! Best of luck with your own V2 project, hope it goes well for you! :D
Cheers mate,
Sam :)
+Sam'sTrains I bought mine a couple of years ago, its one of the best in my fleet, its smooth running, strong and reliable but also very rugged and thank you Sam, have you ever thought about a bachmann S&D 7f? Ive got the limited edition 88 ing sdjr blue and they are great locos to have no mater the livery
Wow the v2 is very nice in model form and id like one now haha detail, performance its all there and a great review, nice to see the n2 as well
+GWR23 Studios Thanks mate, glad you like it - I can recommend the Bachmann ones, definitely!
Thanks a lot for the comment,
Sam :)
I have a new one. IT has a little bit more detail and iT runs quitte nice
Hi! Awesome - I don't think I've ever seen one of the new ones - I bet they're lovely though!
Thanks for watching,
Sam :)
Incredible locomotive Sam ! You seem to have good tast when ot comes to locomotives and has you can tell by my profile picture I'm big fans of V2s , over all incredible review cheers!
Thanks very much mate - oh yes the V2! You have very good taste too then, hehe!
Thanks for watching,
Sam :)
nice review. I like the detail. What's up with N2's front hand rail?
+ThomasFan17 Thanks a lot, they are lovely! haha, good question - I only noticed it was hanging off at the end, I've glued it now! :)
Cheers,
Sam :)
Rest were completely scrapped, err? Are there some that are half scrapped?!!!!
haha!! Technically yes - there are parts of some steam locomotives (such as nameplates and other minor components) that survive, while the rest of the loco was scrapped! ;)
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
a very nice review mate
lovely loco it need re tooling
i believe gwr did a 2-6-2 tank
lovely
ade
+Adi Pullen Thanks mate, sorry you've already seen this one!
Thanks a lot for the comment anyway,
Cheers mate,
Sam :)
hey it cool
Very cute locomotive
Thank you! :D
Sam'sTrains you’re welcome
These can look and run ok but Bachmann split chassis locos are a total gamble. NOS ones, in particular, often break their axle muffs on the very first run. I haven't been able to find replacement parts that really fit; the ones Bachmann sent me were hopelessly loose and the 3D printed ones I tried were very brittle. Best avoided altogether.
Herbert!! So nice to see you again!
haha! :D
The V2s were my granddad's favourites to drive and fire.
+Why Not? I think I remember you saying something like that, It's really cool that you can relate to them!
Ah, the old sams trains, with only 2 lines. Still great review
haha thanks Mike, bit of an old one this!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
lovely loco where do u get most of your engines and stuff from
+kirk jones Thanks a lot, I get 95% of my stuff online from model shops or from ebay! :)
Cheers,
Sam :)
It looks like an a3s younger brother
haha yeah it does!! :D
Awesome review!!!
+Nicks Adventures (Nick's Adventure) Thanks a lot - glad you enjoyed it! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
Green Arrow is the only V2 class has been preserved!
Ah is that right? It really is a shame :(
All the best,
Sam :)
I really wish hornby would model a better more modern version of these underappreciated engines. Theyre a nice middle ground between the big glamorous pacifics and the smaller types.
Me too - it's high time we saw an updated V2!!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
The Green Arrows are Fishtrains!
Ah yeah I remember - I love how specific that is, lol!
All the best,
Sam :)
184 were built! not 108!
+Why Not? My bad! Looks like I cant read my own writing ;)
+Sam'sTrains haha ok, you're forgiven.
make sure you run your locos in once you put them on the track. it makes them run more smoother.
Yep that's very true - Though you can't beat regular servicing and maintenance!
All the best,
Sam :)
Sam'sTrains if only I could do that in nz. there's like a couple Hobbie shops in wellington. I don't trust going online because there's lots of scams. I have a flying scotsman. it's really rough
Hey I got a idea. What about say every 1 or two months you make a vid about locos from different contrys and show them off? or make history vids about them. Did you know theres two types of J class. theres 611 and 1211
love these vids
Thanks very much - that's so kind of you to say,
All the best,
Sam :)
Sam great video again, first time I seen a V2 run, they remind me of the Flying Scotsman. By the way able to get the helping hands off e-bay. My closest model shop is 4 hrs drive away, buy most of my modelling supplies from your friends in north of England. Thank you for all your help. John from Oz.
+Wilso 1947 Thanks a lot John, and no problem! They are extremely similar to the Flying Scotsman in their looks, and I believe technically too. The helping hands are definitely worth while, I think I'd struggle without mine!
Cheers mate,
Sam :)
I Am Going To Draw (My Furry OC's Private Engine) Odette The V2 By Seth Dorian Reid (Me)🚂✏🖍
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I Thought Plaries Or Whatever You Spell It Are Tank Engines Not Tender Engines
Yes they generally are tank engines, but only because there was only this one that had a tender in the UK!
Thanks for watching,
Sam :)
Sam did you watch the british railway series? There is a V2 featurednin them. If you haven't get round watching them they are very nice stories
+Dark Starla Hi thanks for letting me know about that - I've not seen it, but I will try and watch it! :D
Cheers mate,
Sam :)
Five years later and the new Bachmann V2 is finally surfacing. Not impressed.
Hi Sam, one of my favourite locos from the LNER. Nice video and I agree on the ratings what you gave her and she is a good model for her age.
Cheers mate,
Lewis :D
+Lewis Shields Thanks a lot Lewis, it does seem that Bachmann have been making super detailed models for years - and I thought it was something relatively new!
Oh well, it was a pleasant suprise! :D
Glad you liked her, cheers,
Sam :)
Sam'sTrains Thanks for replying Sam, Quite right Bachmann have been making outstanding models for some years now (including the V2).
Cheers Mate,
Lewis :D
The V2s were amazing! Great model! Wouldn't it be nice to see Green Arrow in steam again? I think Green Arrow should belong to the A1 Steam Locomotive Trust
Thanks mate!! Yeahh it really would - she's a lovely loco!! :D
Cheers again,
Sam :)
Your welcome mate
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get the 4771 green arrow
I could do! That'd be a lovely one to have!
Thanks for watching,
Sam :)
Dare I say it, and I do......... as locos go it is in the same class as likable locos as Q1. There I said it. Now put on tin hat and take cover from incoming! Hehe! 😀
haha yeah! It does have a bit of an austerity look to it, lol! ;D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Green Arrow is the only survivor and is the most famous. See at 00:10 a 00:28 a 01:10
Very true Luke - and lovely she is too! :D
Sometimes, whenever I think of Gordon, I think of the V2 even though he is an A0
Yeah I see what you mean actually - they do look very similar from the front!
Cheers,
Sam :)
Don’t give away this video
I won't Kenki! :D
@@SamsTrains Stop calling me the wrong name. My name is Kenji.