@Isabel reed I mean there was toxic ness ofcourse but not this much and the fandom was not that much toxic but people around them like company were so toxic
Jessica may not be in SNSD anymore but she will always be remembered as being in the most legendary and iconic girl group! We will always love you and stick by you Jess, no matter what you do! 💗💗💗
I just waiting what hyohyeon said: "i hope she can tell anything happens of SNSD with no other issues..." I think jessica and SNSD still contacting each other on private... No one know!!! also Sunny on variety show spotted she have OT9 picture frame... I guess they can still contact anymore just like f(x) sulli and her members not contacting anymore like SNSD but they contact privately but of sulli funeral OT3: Victoria, Amber and Luna going funeral and krystal going too but private but many people said she attended on funeral...
Yeah, shes a fighter. On mixnine seungri expose that LSM been banned her from tv but she succesfully getting through as host beautybible. Unfortunately blanc n eclair are NG to me, quality are poor eventho the design are cute n pretty. And coridel ent doesnt seem had great artist yet . Despite that she still rich anyway 🤣
@@teacher-Eri yeah, sunny said that snsd leave dorm at 4 in the morning and back to dorm at midninght usually the did 4 gigs err day (after comeback), with that kind of labor if shes not rich then it was slavery
@@biancablair6840 LSM still holds somewhat of a share of SM but he isn’t in charge with the idols activity. There’s another ceo and the staffs who decides. It’s sad that she can’t promote her songs on music programs but soo far all the idols who wanted to terminate contract or etc, ended up not being able to show face. 😕
I can't believe after all these years, the girls still have to be so hush hush about the situation. It's my K-Pop dream to have them all reunite one day for at least one comeback. Imagine the fan reaction and record sales! Let the girls live and be free!
@@hugecake4178 they did... it apparently has to do with the contract termination That's why this whole speculation thing triggers me They might want to talk openly but when you are fordbidden to do that and people keep asking it just hurts Again.. We can't know
@@mangamama9881 that's quite a good news, I really thought when Soo, Tiff, and Seo leaving SM, they will show some interaction with Sica, but then I remember even though they left the company, they're still the part of GG so it makes sense that SM still holds some agreement with them, including to not interact publicly with Sica...
Jessica still being talked about 7 years after leaving such a big group is kind of iconic. SM really thought they were ruining her career by kicking her out 😭 Jess said SIKE you did me a favor
@@mariammartirosyan4012 ofcourse there is something we dont know. The whole reason why so many people just cant move on from this is because they want to know what happend
@@mariammartirosyan4012 there are lots of speculations, mainly being that from SM pov, Jessica wasn't able to balance both the commitments of being a SNSD member and a businesswoman with her fashion brand, which is probably why she left the company after her contract expired and not rightly after the news broke on 9/30, other popular speculation is that all of the girls' parents have a certain control over their daughters' contracts and the decisions they make, and they weren't very fond with Jessica having her own business aside from the group (maybe bc only J was making bank out of B&E) which also leads to the most famous speculation, on which ot8 voted Jessica out of the group after making her decide between SNSD or Blanc Thing is that probably we'll never know what actually happened within the walls of the SM building on that cursed 9/30, the real reason behind Jessica's departure, the very likely SM NDAs that forbid the remaining members to publicly talk about her or why they cried at Tokyo dome aka their first tour without her
@@mariammartirosyan4012 no problem, this video dives even deeper into the things I just said + explains/debunks other possible speculations, it is quite long but very well made with receipts and stuff, and totally worth the watch th-cam.com/video/8h2iwQEQ_IA/w-d-xo.html
From reading her book shine. I can tell that Sunny is still good friends with Jessica and was one who stood by her the entire time. That's the only part i can really decode in her part 1 book "Shine"
I watch the video summary of the book and there seems to be 2 bullies from the story. And sunny has relations with SM founder may help her not get bullied? But good to know theres still someone who stood by her
She's not in contact with anyone of them anymore , she even said on the book that the shy quite member end up living for the drama, that is; she joined with the rest of the girls, the main character was very selfish and shallow minded when it comes to the way she handled/ viewed the rest of the girls, and don't forget it's still a YA genre book, most of it were embellished and exaggerated for drama and to lure/ engage readers but honestly it's a very cliche book, Mary sue character with no dept
@@habshi0974 Even if shes not in contact with any of them, Sunny has still showed over the years that she doesnt shy away from acknowledging Jessica and her time with the group. And i think thats what Jacob means. Not that the other members dont but it comes to light when the members were talking to each other doing their 10th anniversary fanmeet. Sunny was supposed to give a lil appriciating talk to Soo but decided to indirectly talk to Jessica instead and thank her for her time she was with them - in case u havent seen that clip. Just one example of the members talking about her. And idk why i felt like saying all this, dont mind me. Its the story u didnt ask for uwu
It's not a mystery at all. She wasn't doing her job to either SNSD or SM's satisfaction and got fired for it. Her's and SM's statements say exactly the same thing
-SM supports her brand and they make an agreement with her that might be related to timing and release date of her brand since snsd was very active during that time especially during Japan promotion tour (mid to late 2014) -Jessica breach the contract or didn't sign it(either way same outcome) and release it anyways (blanc & eclare released in august 2014) this is because she already hire staffs and prepared the brand thoroughly she can't focus on the group so she chose her brand. -Its messing with the japan tour promotion, the catch me if you can comeback and SM had to cover some of her fund for her brand -SM fired her The outcome: members are considered to be bullies especially taeyeon which is untrue since actually most members really supportive about it, strict contract to never mention OT9 or Jessica ever
I’m so happy for Jessica and seeing how much she has accomplished. When you are in a kpop girl group you don’t have freedom to do what you want to pursue your own dreams. Jessica is my ultimate bias and I think she is such a influential young woman and I’m so proud that she has achieved what she has achieved I think her leaving the group was the best for her not going to lie.
I will always be OT9 but time has allowed my heart to heal. I'm glad Girls Generation members and Jessica are achieving on their own. They are grown women who deserve to be recognized for their talents and individuality. Even if we will never get an honest explanation for the departure nor their relationship in actuality. I can love Girls Generations and Jessica at the same time and support their endeavors.
I wouldn't be surprised if their friendship took a major dive after 2014. It's a shame how SM handled the situation and don't blame Jessica for speaking up about what happened. I still think it was pointless removing her from the group. I am happy to see Jessica and the other members pursuing their dreams.
i think it really comes down to how sm handled it. bc if this was just sm, they'd have waited until after tokyo dome or after the fanmeeting, not before it. they'd expect jessica to finish her obligation. but the fact that it was before a fanmeeting makes me think the girls really did tell her not to come and that made her speak out. instead of being a mediator, they told jessica shes out. but this to me seems like a rash decision that may have been miscomunicated to jessica. sm would not have risked announcing the news before their greatest hits album drop and a casio cf. not to mention cmiyc. seriously, everything points to jessica never leaving the group and them just easing group activities after tokyo dome. its a shame that 930 happened.
@@arieam um, it was for sure not the girls. They all knew how much they all wanted to perform in Tokyo Dome, including Jessica. This was all SM for sure and they probably got bitter and kicked out Jessica after an ultimatum. So please stop spreading fake news that it was the girls because they dont have power
@@sonesunitypack_4340 you're delusional if that's what you think. But that's ok, not everyone is bright. For one, there are more ignorant people in the world than logical and critical thinkers
honestly most views these days are inflated. Fans go as far as to take on bot-like behaviour just to increase views artificially. It can be seen with some groups who got so many views yet still aren't as impactful in South Korea as less viewed groups. When I used to go to Noraebang in Korea with my Korean friends, the song choices were always those of "less viewed" artists.
I remember seeing some stans in a fandom saying they dont shower or go to school anymore just so they can stream- and although thats hard to believe, I personally know people who are like that.
while what you said is true.. it still only works if your fandom is HUGE! we are talking about hundred of million of views even billions. There are alot of smaller fanbases that try to stream hard, but they barely gaining any views close to these numbers.
By fans you mean American teens fans that will max out their parents credit cards just to buy anything from bts,BP and twice and buy multiple devices to stream a video or vote all day just so they idols can win a useless award
As a sone….I just at this point don’t need to hear anymore about their split. I can see they’re all happy and thriving and doing amazing things- that’s all I could ever want for them! She is forever part of snsd to me and I can’t separate her from them in my mind, but I can respect and see how amazingly she has been doing with her brand, music, etc. I love them all so much…. I miss them…
@@yurinary7006 we know for a fact that they have a group chat where they chat and share memes (Sooyoung mentioned it on her video reacting to some sone edits), just isn’t clear if it’s ot8 or ot9.
I still remember that goddamn 9/30/2014. Days before that, they released a song called Indestructible and singing how the Soshi Bond is really indestructible. Then I suddenly woke up to see the news from allkpop which is notoriously known for spreading fake news. I was skeptical and didnt even take it in and just laughed about it. However, when I have checked on the other SONEs posts, it was indeed true. I was bawling my eyes. I was really crying and depressed for the whole week even crying. It was also a day when we did a reporting, I was really crying and sometimes tried to keep it in. Jessica is my bias and one of the things sold me in to SNSD is their sisterhood and to see that "friendship" was actually the reason why my bias was kicked out, it did let me down. I was very doubtful and unsure to enter KPOP world but SNSD invited me in. They are the first group who struck my heart and I really felt betrayed at that time. 9/30 was a cursed day for me. I always remember it whenever 9/30 comes
That "friendship" was not the reason she was kicked out lol. It's obvious the girls still have love for each other. The kicking out controversy id between Jessica and SM NOT Jessica and the girls. For one they're open about when they argue and disagree, but that's what makes them human because at the end of the day they still loved and cared about each other. They mentioned this a bunch of times during variety tv and I think it's healthy to talk about it unlike many kpop groups you see with a happy face. Snsd were a family to each other.
@@animecookies8784 some of them yes but i dont everyone feels the same. This friendship explains as to why they still didnt have a single picture after some of them has left SM already. I mean come on, its been years. Some of them has been out of the contract from SM atleast a single picture with her right? But nah. But thats okay, if theres a fight between them, i would understand. Im just a fool to believe about that friendship
AEX it’s because since the three members are still in SNSD, they have some sort of contract and it could be included that they’re still not allowed to have interactions with Sica
I read Shine in one sitting! I could not put it down! It’s soooooo good!!! I am super excited for the sequel!!! And even though it’s highly unlikely, I am hoping for an OT9 reunion… being a fan of SNSD since 09, i was heartbroken when she was forced out the group… all because she wanted to do her own thing smh… either way, I hope one day SNSD can reunite as 9… we shall wait and see 💗
I still hope that one day, everything will be revealed and cleared up ONCE AND FOR ALL. We, Sones, deserve to know the whole truth. please. we were heartbroken too when 1 member left the group. I hope the members will be allowed to talk about it one day
Honestly when they get back together nowadays I can’t help but be a bit sad bc of the Jessica situation. I know they signed an NDA but acting like she never existed is tough to watch it must sting to be left out of all the reunions even if she is successful individually.
I’m still hoping that one day Snsd and jessica would speak up about what happened in 2014 because it’s still a mystery for me. I just hope that they clear things up and tell us everything that has happened before cause it’s been almost 7 yrs and it really still breaks my heart and I’m confused on why jessica was kicked out/departed from the group
Yup ig shows they've been at the same.places. At the same time I think it's telling that seohyun and yoona see to be the members most distant from the others
@@schmoneysworld3790 Yoona and Seohyun is the busiest as of the moment so you won't see them often with other members, same as Sunny. Hyo, Tiff, Yul and Soo are the current members who have a lot of free sched. Tae still have Amazing Sat and she just finished her Weekend promotion last month.
Jessica wrote on her official statement that both SM and the members supported her business at first but "others had a changed of hearts" (line from her statement). I still believed in what she said until now than SM. Call me bias but I believed in Jessica's words more than SM. Seems like they moved on already but it will still remained as the biggest mystery in KPOP. And also a lot of people after what happened keep on discrediting Jessica's hard work as a SNSD member. I just want to remind you again and again that SNSD's peak, their glory days was when they were 9, not 8. SNSD debuted as 9. For SNSD's iconic first 7 years together, Jessica was there. Their biggest smash hits had 9 voices. They won a lot of awards when they were 9. And Jessica was there when SNSD became the Nation's Girl Group and Legendary Girl Group.
@@geaghibrella6015 I'm not saying it's only Jessica, I'm talking about other people acting like she didn't contribute a big part of SNSD's popularity and achievements. That's why I said they achieved a lot of things when they were 9.
@@Amystudio yeah even though their releases after did well they werent as impactfull like the ones with her or their last comeback mr mr together but it seems all of them are doing well in their solo career same as jessica which is good
I still remember the days jessica news leaving snsd, I was crying as river. I was crying a whole day and can't still believe this would be happen. Because I never though snsd in bad terms or something. I thought maybe they just fight, jessica will come back but no. I still remember, I still waiting for jungsis season 2 but it cancelled. Then, during sm concert, sone were screaming jessica's name and the others were crying. I saw the fancam and it's really broke my heart. It takes a long time to move on from what happen and we still never know what is the reason.
Jessica seems happier now more then ever so i’m glad she moved on. Now this friday she will release her OST track I can’t sleep that will feature in season 2 of jessica and krystal this september. So we can expect big things coming from jessica ❤️
I remember the day she left so vividly. I was in high school. I remember seeing it online before I went to school. Literally couldn't focus throughout the entire day as my thoughts were constantly on the girls. Snsd were the first and only group I basically dedicated my entire life to, I remember been so upset and confused as to why Jessica left as it seemed so out of the blue. I of course still support the girls just as much, but it's a day that will always be etched in my mind. I was worried that, that would be the end of snsd, but I'm so glad they were all able to carry on and bring love to us sones and golden stars 🌟 Thank you soshi. No matter their paths, I was always follow close behind.
I remember hear the news too. I'm sad. Real sad. But because i'm mostly a logical person, i try to see that complicated situation in logical mind. And can accept the outcome and still have positive frame of mind to still support them In whatever road they are taken several years ago. Gladly, they still here and do their best in their own path. Proud of them
Jessica's releasing a brand new song this Friday the 27th!!! The name is 잠이 오지 않아 and is is part of the OST for a show she filmed with her sister Krystal 2 years ago. Please stream it!!!
SNSD got me into kpop so I am very emotionally attached to them , they will always be iconic and FOREVER will be Ot9 in our hearts no matter what , Okay! Now I am suddenly missing them alot.
@Libv Look it doesn't have to be a "proof", it would just be normal behaviour in a healthy relationship. But they clearly HIDE it as if it was a shameful friendship. Why hide a relationship that lasted more than a decade ? That's just sick. You don't have a problem when the other 8 members post pictures on instagram and interact with each other, do you ? Why is it a problem to comment on Jessica's Instagram or be seen with her then ? Why aren't they free to do so ? This is all the result of SM's shady manipulations and sh!tty contracts, this company is evil and they drive their idols crazy or depressive. And people like you shamelessly encourage them
@@mads12345 I do believe that they all signed a NDA preventing them from talking about how Jessica was fired. But if they also signed something that prevents them from even being seen with each other, isn't that some kind of restraining order ? 😅
I truly believe Jessica doesn't have any hate towards GG members she was just mad that no one tried to stood up for her to carry on her personal business and have her freedom (but I always had a lil dissapointment with her because she came off as kind of a petty and selfish person sometimes, I mean if you want to pursue another career you should have left the group not to argue with the whole company to get what you wanted coz you are still an employee for them and she left all the blame and dirt to other members... but BUT I can't hate her I still love our ice princess alot) GG members might have to let her go to save the group because many I mean MANY people loved them adored them and knew their fans will still support them and of course to save their jobs as idols as well since its their very passion. anyhow I'm glad to see all the members and Jessica doing well and thriving in their own career paths. it's amazing because I grew up with them. I hope I witness OT9 together before I die. I really do.
I agree with you. I don't hate her. I love all 9 of them with all of my heart. And I don't have any right to say who is wrong or who's right because we don't know the whole situation. But I kinda think Jessica should have either left the group on her own (obviously I am ot9 fan and don't want any of them to leave but if they are happy with it then I am also happy) or should've wait for her contract to end. I can be completely wrong and Sica could be completely innocent victim but again we don't have complete information about it.
@@hannathatsme9086 I don't really know the full details and I might not be able to give you the full and correct details because English is not my first language and I don't have full information. But I have just heard that if you have signed a contract with big entertainment companies like SM then you can't open up your business like Jessica launched her own clothing brand (sorry if I am wrong). As for other members they haven't done anything like that.
Jessica's vocals added a lot to many songs, especially the Japanese ones. Songs like Youaholic, Great Escape, Hero, etc would not be the same without her.. When she left the group they never were the same.
She is in contact with the other girls, there is a photo of sunny holding Jessica's book... I think they have a contract were jassics can't speak openly about the group and the group about Jessica. That's why they're always avoiding to talk about each other
One thing I will NEVER forget is how sones and fans alike betrayed Jessica. They switched up on her so fast I couldn't believe it, going from claiming how important all members were to purposely act like Jessica was never part of the group. While SNSD pre-2014 will always have a place in my heart as the group that brought me to KPOP, that year made me realize how much KPOP is just a pretty facade.
Not all sones.. I'm a Sone too but I respect their decision, I understand because on 2014, I parted ways with my girlfriends too. We had each others back in a boarding school up to our graduation. We even had a promise that we're going to job huntings together but reality sets in. One of our friends is already engaged at 19 and awaiting her marriage while one of us had to go abroad. It's sad and bittersweet but hey we hold on even though we didn't seen each other since 2014.. I'm just a commoner but I somehow relate to SNSD's life story. Just like Sooyoung said, we had bad days as well as good old days
To be quite honest Jessica being solo is one of the best things that can happen to her and her growth and her career. Being signed to companies like SM you have to do everything by their book and push the image they want yeah you may help right the song with a few other people. But full creative design belongs to the company when it comes to the album the video and everything. Even business endeavours they will find a way to get a portion of that money and don’t think you’re gonna grow and open up shops without their approval either. Having the freedom she has now is well deserved. Even Tiffany when she didn’t resign, yes she is still considered part of SNSD but she is not an SM artist and they don’t get any of her money that she makes from her music and tours and TV appearances. She’s been everywhere in the media way more and even has her own show on mobidic
i believe someone under the agency has something to do with her leaving (not blaming anyone in snsd) because of the similarities between her book and the situation she was going thru at the time 🤭
@@meretequila It’s basically about two female trainees that like the same guy (already debuted) and they get into a scandal and the other girl that likes the guy tries to ruin the main characters career (a bad summary)
@@diickvandyke i wanted to believe Jessica and the members are still friends but in this book, there are 8 characters and some of them are mean to the main character. I hope those situations aren't based on real life
Whilst I'm happy she found success after hey dismissal, I think the hope that ot9s have for a reunion is silly. There are now 3 members of SNSD no longer under sm contracts, and they haven't been for nearly 5 years. They have had plenty of time to "speak up" but won't, bc ot9 is in the past. The girls and Jessica aren't friends anymore, and likely haven't been since 930. They aren't hiding their friendship from the SM eye of Sauron. That makes literally no sense and anyone suggesting that grown adults would do this are delusional.
Yuri was the one who always clowns us with ot9 crumbs, tho it made us confused but we can't deny that we're still hoping that one day we will see them again gathering as a whole in front of their fans. #GG4EVA
Whenever what Soshi members decide for their lives to be more comfortable, I still support! I wish that not only Jessica will have enough freedom, but all of them. I love them all #GG4EVA9
Jessica's departure scarred the entire Kpop industry, that's for sure. The group is always been a big part of Kpop. Edit: She said "She wasted some of her time in the past". It was because she started her entire teenage years with the company and look what the company did to her. But the statement directed on the company, NOT on the Group.
Hmm mmm sounded like u wish that's what she meant... sometimes people r not as nice as they seems ... just saying ... if I said to u " im wasting my time typing this " and trying to correct it oh ya I meant TH-cam not u ... at the end of the day ... it still means I think im wasted my time ...... 🤷♀️
Even if she wasn't in Kpop she can still soar high. Her perseverance in her plans is making her rich today, she bravely pursue doing business behind sm ent. even if it means everything. Well you know being an idol is not a lifetime but business stays and can be passed into generations very wise decision indeed. Jung sisters are smart woman.
@@1southernsun not as intensely, thats the difference. Of course their still famous just not as much as when they were the iconic 9. Their juniors run Kpop now.
Some rumors said that her novel will turn into a Hollywood movie and she will be working with the team behind "To All The Boys I've Loved Before" and she will be releasing a new song on the 27th August for the Jessica & Krystal Show S2!
I'm happy that they are successful individually and achieving their dreams as they should. Happy for them meeting up secretly as well (ex. when they played golf, etc)
I love Jessica, but her saying that if she had stayed with SNSD, she wouldn’t been able to achieve her dreams, I don’t agree with that. Seeing the snsd members now, they are all free and doing what they love now. Jessica just got a head start on that.
No she wouldn't of been able to do that, many of the members have left the company to pursue their acting dreams. They did say they will have a comeback one day as eight but its clear that SNSD is not their focus now. They are all able to go for their dreams because their contracts were finally up. SM originally was okay with Jessica having a brand but I don't think they realized how much time it would take out of her schedule. I bet they just gave her an ultimatum. Her brand or her group and it seems like she couldn't let go of her brand so they decided to let go Jessica.
I don't believe she would have achieved her dreams fully (the way it is right now) if she stayed with SNSD. I bet she will encounter a lot of restrictions, and probably conflicts had she stayed as a gg member seeing how strict companies can be. Why do you think Seohyun, Sooyoung, and Tiffany left when their contracts expired? Jessica's ventures weren't even just to become an actress or becoming a solo act at the time - it was owning a business.
Personally I think jessica started in snsd is a good thing because she got money,experience, popularity, friends, sisters and of course fans that love her. Starting a business cost a lot of money, and need a lot of customers. To be honest when she said that she wasted some time in the past I feel sad, it’s not like they force you to do it but jessica also decide that on her own so I think she should be thankful to the people that support her and also what happened in the past because it makes her strong and be the person that she wanted to be right now. I really like jessica but I think SM is the one that is wrong here. As you can see snsd as 8 always include jessica in their own way like they still think that they are 9 members and I think they support jessica in secret because SM doesn’t want them to be in contact to jessica. You know SM they are evil 🥺.
@@deerine agree, starting a business is easy. You need to spend a lot of time, and definitely it will impact the group activities. Being in a group is a job, you can't work 2 jobs at the same time.
Action speaks louder than word. Not once did SNSD members mention about the story but Jessica profiting from her cryptic books and stuff. Secondly, suppose SNSD members stood up for Jessica, what happens next. Jessica can always fall back to her fashion brand and her music label which funnily both backed up her rich boyfriend. The others, I'm not sure what their parachute would be. And it doesn't make sense for the girls to give up many years of training. Either way, it wouldn't have worked to be an idol and also a designer/entrepreneur. Jessica should just move on like everyone else.
These girls have side hustles, cut the crap. The great thing about Jessica is that she succeeds in everything she does. It's not like she succeeded because of her rich boyfriend. It's understandable that people would be jealous of someone with such talent.
A few notes. She already had to fashion brand when she left snsd. Many believe that this was one of the reasons she got kicked out. Another thing, or her book “shine” she doesn’t explain her side of the history. In fact, there’s really nothing to do with SNSD. If you read the book you will see it’s just a fiction book (believe me, i tried to find the correlations)
They have very good acting skills and popularity, but no one teaches them how to communicate that they are giant babies and don’t think about the future consequences.
YT recommend these vid multiple times already but I'm afraid to watch it and to read the comments everytime her removal is brought up arguments are inevitable and I'm so tired of those.I need to be mentally prepared everytime I watch a snsd content like these. I hope ot9 sone will get a good closure that they deserved.
If SNSD ever come back, and that's a big if. It will be as an 8 member girl group. The terms with which Jessica was dismissed are entirely different to the contract expirations of 2017. And no, we don't have the details on why sm dismissed her - only theories. Remember, Jessica hasn't given any reasons either.
I remember the day I read about the article on allkpop and Soompi about her getting kicked out of the group. I was at work on my lunch break eating a cakepop. I was soo sad :( At first, I was hesitant to believe the news because the sources it came from were always lying and being skeptical, but then Jessica confirmed it was true when she posted on her weibo about getting kicked out and not being invited back to the ShenShen chinese fan meeting they had that same day. If you watch the fancams from that concert, all of the chinese Sone's were screaming for Jessica. I wish I was with them to scream as well. Jessica is my ultimate Bias in kpop. She is what made me believe in Soshibond. When she left, I lost interest in SNSD. But I still support them all in their individuals activities, but I sure do miss ot9. I just wish SM could quit being a dick and allow them to hang out in public because the fans deserve it.
Yeaaa...she is the idol one fan goes airport fashion trends.. she is really all rounder !when she just debuted many though she the main vocal while taeyeon lead vocal. But if I were her I will not regretted to leave early to have own freedom and time with family that most idol had lost ..imagine Several years staying with member at dorm is so unhealthy lifestyle.unlike Chinese celebrity's they have their personal time or space..she is with sm 13 years old +- They are still a kids... Jung Sister spend time with your old parent and relatives and friend these moment is more precious than Other thing more.
Jessica said in an interview years ago that she's still in contact with some of the members but not all. I know Sooyoung has tagged people on Instagram that get also get tagged in Jessica's pictures the same day and in the same place. This has happened with other members too.
that interview was most likely fake. because it was for fly promotion and at the same time, a more reputable inteview (billboard) says she hasn't seen the members in a long time.
@@arieam I guess we'll never know. The billboard interview was in 2016 so they definitely could have met up since then. I don't remember when the posts on Instagram were made. I know everyone was saying they could hear some of the girls in the backgrounds of her birthday post but it'll always just be a wishful guess.
It's not just idol groups that clash with each other, but individuals as well. Even before 930, the girls talked about the conflicts in their daily lives on many talk shows.
Jessica Jung will always be a queen and a relevant icon in Korean Pop Music and is also now a fashion icon, TH-cam vlogger and Asian high society member. Girl's Generation, no matter how many members people wish to acknowledge, will always be the first and longest KPop Group to be called Nation's Girl Group because they are legends in the industry. All nine of them deserve the greatness and success they've acquired over the last 14 years, individually and as a group.
lol...she left with confidence, because she was already having her own business. When she decided that, everyone in the members were scared, uncertain, angry, bitter and perhaps felt she was being selfish. However, none of the 8 seem to really grasp the idea , you can only last so long as groups. That said, everyone were already thinking to diversify into acting, solo, variety shows MC and etc in the entertainment, and there was Jessica, just being simply wanting to move on earlier than most. It was the peak, and they should do that before newer group comes in....ie: TWICE, BTS, BlackPink, etc....even Big Bang knows when to exit, and be fondly remembered for greatness and successful solo for some. That sourness and bitterness hopefully might deter over time. You spent part of your immature years from trainees, rookies, debut, success together... Not many made it. That is something they might hold their memories more preciously as they grow mature and older. This is the same case for FinKL, whom are best remember in korea early 2000s era...ie: G.O.D as well. Let it be a good memory then, what is the point wasting remembering bad ones. Life is too short for resentments.
That photo you used where Jessica leaving the company happened way back 2012 she covered her face because she doesn't have make up and fans and Paparazzi was there, she wasn't crying. Still nobody knows why she was kicked out or leaved, She was banned by SM and Korean entertainment industry to perform, she was banned and the other members to mention names, One thing's for sure no bullying all of them are still friends and still their sisters. We SONE still support and will still support her.
SNSD and Jessica doesn’t have anything left to prove to be called an legendary group! Whether as an OT9 or 8 They were legendary the moment they beat the odds in making it in this Industry!!
Tell me about it 😭 I fear that my long journey as an OT9 stan might be coming to an end finally. I've tried my very best to stay neutral about it all, I can no longer. Regardless whether any of it is true or fiction, can't help but feel very differently about Jessica now sadly.
The book is telling that it was indeed the 8 others who didn’t want her in the group anymore. Before a concert, Jessica was told by a person that if she comes to the concert, the 8 others will not come with her.
@@xKayNee ikr it basically talks about how the other girls didn't want to perform with her and she was kicked out bcs of this but like idk what to believe cause it might be fictional but on the other hand it might be the real situation it just makes sense to me tho when you watch videos of Jessica being kinda left out but like idkkk
@@cutthecrap4736 I was sure that some of them were besides Jessica like sunny, seohyun and Yoona …. But I am glad of her because she was telling the truth since the beginning and o am sure that’s why SM didn’t pursue her for her Weibo post
Do you guys remember that one Korean tv show with Snsd with girls generation tiffany,jessica etc with a lie detector test and tiffany failed the lie detector test was truthful when tiffany admit she did not like jessica..
I miss those days where views weren't everything that decide if a group is legenadry or not....
Sad views are bought by companies even
@@savagexoxo2584 true nothing is genuine now
@the boystotally true
@Isabel reed I mean there was toxic ness ofcourse but not this much and the fandom was not that much toxic but people around them like company were so toxic
@@savagexoxo2584 honestly i don't mind bought views via ads since it's just a simple marketing tactic. But if there are legit bought ones...messed up
Jessica may not be in SNSD anymore but she will always be remembered as being in the most legendary and iconic girl group! We will always love you and stick by you Jess, no matter what you do! 💗💗💗
Yessss. Thankyu all golden sone
OT9 4ever💖🇵🇭
소녀시대 is 9 OT9 FOREVER!!!!! 💗💗💗💗💗💖🇵🇭
I just waiting what hyohyeon said: "i hope she can tell anything happens of SNSD with no other issues..." I think jessica and SNSD still contacting each other on private... No one know!!! also Sunny on variety show spotted she have OT9 picture frame... I guess they can still contact anymore just like f(x) sulli and her members not contacting anymore like SNSD but they contact privately but of sulli funeral OT3: Victoria, Amber and Luna going funeral and krystal going too but private but many people said she attended on funeral...
❤ yep
I'm glad she was able to pursue the dreams she wanted.
Same
Yeah, shes a fighter. On mixnine seungri expose that LSM been banned her from tv but she succesfully getting through as host beautybible. Unfortunately blanc n eclair are NG to me, quality are poor eventho the design are cute n pretty. And coridel ent doesnt seem had great artist yet . Despite that she still rich anyway 🤣
@@biancablair6840 she will always rich. SNSD members get so much money from their long succesfull career
@@teacher-Eri yeah, sunny said that snsd leave dorm at 4 in the morning and back to dorm at midninght usually the did 4 gigs err day (after comeback), with that kind of labor if shes not rich then it was slavery
@@biancablair6840 LSM still holds somewhat of a share of SM but he isn’t in charge with the idols activity. There’s another ceo and the staffs who decides. It’s sad that she can’t promote her songs on music programs but soo far all the idols who wanted to terminate contract or etc, ended up not being able to show face. 😕
I can't believe after all these years, the girls still have to be so hush hush about the situation. It's my K-Pop dream to have them all reunite one day for at least one comeback. Imagine the fan reaction and record sales! Let the girls live and be free!
@@hugecake4178 they did... it apparently has to do with the contract termination
That's why this whole speculation thing triggers me
They might want to talk openly but when you are fordbidden to do that and people keep asking it just hurts
Again..
We can't know
@@mangamama9881 that's quite a good news, I really thought when Soo, Tiff, and Seo leaving SM, they will show some interaction with Sica, but then I remember even though they left the company, they're still the part of GG so it makes sense that SM still holds some agreement with them, including to not interact publicly with Sica...
I can only hope for 2027
@@hugecake4178 bullshits lol
Will never happen, ksones and knetz blur jessica
Jessica still being talked about 7 years after leaving such a big group is kind of iconic. SM really thought they were ruining her career by kicking her out 😭 Jess said SIKE you did me a favor
Why SM kicked her? She was very popular in GG and SM wouldn't do something stupid like that, I think there is smt we don't know
@@mariammartirosyan4012 ofcourse there is something we dont know. The whole reason why so many people just cant move on from this is because they want to know what happend
@@mariammartirosyan4012 there are lots of speculations, mainly being that from SM pov, Jessica wasn't able to balance both the commitments of being a SNSD member and a businesswoman with her fashion brand, which is probably why she left the company after her contract expired and not rightly after the news broke on 9/30, other popular speculation is that all of the girls' parents have a certain control over their daughters' contracts and the decisions they make, and they weren't very fond with Jessica having her own business aside from the group (maybe bc only J was making bank out of B&E) which also leads to the most famous speculation, on which ot8 voted Jessica out of the group after making her decide between SNSD or Blanc
Thing is that probably we'll never know what actually happened within the walls of the SM building on that cursed 9/30, the real reason behind Jessica's departure, the very likely SM NDAs that forbid the remaining members to publicly talk about her or why they cried at Tokyo dome aka their first tour without her
@@jisoochrist whaaaaat? I've never heard about that, wow, thanks a lot
@@mariammartirosyan4012 no problem, this video dives even deeper into the things I just said + explains/debunks other possible speculations, it is quite long but very well made with receipts and stuff, and totally worth the watch th-cam.com/video/8h2iwQEQ_IA/w-d-xo.html
She is a musician,author,singer,dancer, performer and a designer.....wowww she is doing it all ❣️❣️❤️❣️❤️☺️❣️❤️☺️❤️❣️❤️☺️❤️❣️☺️
Proud
Also youtuber and actress
lost her friends and public recog lol
real life barbie wow
@@MsCheese2000 this troll is just a hater lmao
From reading her book shine. I can tell that Sunny is still good friends with Jessica and was one who stood by her the entire time. That's the only part i can really decode in her part 1 book "Shine"
@@trollerexo5648 sm entertainment??🤡why are you here ?
I watch the video summary of the book and there seems to be 2 bullies from the story. And sunny has relations with SM founder may help her not get bullied? But good to know theres still someone who stood by her
She's not in contact with anyone of them anymore , she even said on the book that the shy quite member end up living for the drama, that is; she joined with the rest of the girls, the main character was very selfish and shallow minded when it comes to the way she handled/ viewed the rest of the girls, and don't forget it's still a YA genre book, most of it were embellished and exaggerated for drama and to lure/ engage readers but honestly it's a very cliche book, Mary sue character with no dept
@@habshi0974 Even if shes not in contact with any of them, Sunny has still showed over the years that she doesnt shy away from acknowledging Jessica and her time with the group. And i think thats what Jacob means. Not that the other members dont but it comes to light when the members were talking to each other doing their 10th anniversary fanmeet. Sunny was supposed to give a lil appriciating talk to Soo but decided to indirectly talk to Jessica instead and thank her for her time she was with them - in case u havent seen that clip. Just one example of the members talking about her. And idk why i felt like saying all this, dont mind me. Its the story u didnt ask for uwu
@@habshi0974 Not to add some parts aren’t true in general
Jessica leaving SNSD is still one of the mysteries in KPOP
I would say kicked out not leaving SNSD
Not really. It's all come to business
@@teacher-Eri Not really. Her having a brand was treated and spoken very normally before departure and the other members seemed on board, same for SM.
It's not a mystery at all.
She wasn't doing her job to either SNSD or SM's satisfaction and got fired for it.
Her's and SM's statements say exactly the same thing
-SM supports her brand and they make an agreement with her that might be related to timing and release date of her brand since snsd was very active during that time especially during Japan promotion tour (mid to late 2014)
-Jessica breach the contract or didn't sign it(either way same outcome) and release it anyways (blanc & eclare released in august 2014) this is because she already hire staffs and prepared the brand thoroughly she can't focus on the group so she chose her brand.
-Its messing with the japan tour promotion, the catch me if you can comeback and SM had to cover some of her fund for her brand
-SM fired her
The outcome: members are considered to be bullies especially taeyeon which is untrue since actually most members really supportive about it, strict contract to never mention OT9 or Jessica ever
I’m so happy for Jessica and seeing how much she has accomplished. When you are in a kpop girl group you don’t have freedom to do what you want to pursue your own dreams. Jessica is my ultimate bias and I think she is such a influential young woman and I’m so proud that she has achieved what she has achieved I think her leaving the group was the best for her not going to lie.
I will always be OT9 but time has allowed my heart to heal. I'm glad Girls Generation members and Jessica are achieving on their own. They are grown women who deserve to be recognized for their talents and individuality. Even if we will never get an honest explanation for the departure nor their relationship in actuality. I can love Girls Generations and Jessica at the same time and support their endeavors.
You could have not said it better!! As a sone since their debut, I feel the same way too
I wouldn't be surprised if their friendship took a major dive after 2014. It's a shame how SM handled the situation and don't blame Jessica for speaking up about what happened. I still think it was pointless removing her from the group. I am happy to see Jessica and the other members pursuing their dreams.
i think it really comes down to how sm handled it. bc if this was just sm, they'd have waited until after tokyo dome or after the fanmeeting, not before it. they'd expect jessica to finish her obligation. but the fact that it was before a fanmeeting makes me think the girls really did tell her not to come and that made her speak out. instead of being a mediator, they told jessica shes out. but this to me seems like a rash decision that may have been miscomunicated to jessica. sm would not have risked announcing the news before their greatest hits album drop and a casio cf. not to mention cmiyc. seriously, everything points to jessica never leaving the group and them just easing group activities after tokyo dome. its a shame that 930 happened.
@@arieam um, it was for sure not the girls. They all knew how much they all wanted to perform in Tokyo Dome, including Jessica. This was all SM for sure and they probably got bitter and kicked out Jessica after an ultimatum. So please stop spreading fake news that it was the girls because they dont have power
@@animecookies8784 nope it was the girl 100%
@@sonesunitypack_4340 you're delusional if that's what you think. But that's ok, not everyone is bright. For one, there are more ignorant people in the world than logical and critical thinkers
@@animecookies8784 i too believe the girls are involved
I remembered 30th September 2014. Never forgotten how much I cried as a sone who believes in soshi bond
still crying in 2021
Same, I’ve never been so devastated in relation to an idol.
Jessica Is NOT DEAD ☠️ 💀
UNLIKE what happened between 3rd September and the 7th of September.
@@phantoms2053 girl, thats even worse, pls noo...
@@phantoms2053 What happend in 3rd September
You can't spell Girls' Generation without Jessica. OT9 forever ❤️
True♡
I don't think thats how that works but yes we love Jessica♡♡ OT9♡
Yesssss. I cant
You can't spell Girls' Generation without "neato"!....or "Gee!". .......or "GI ration" or "IRL rat" or "ion" or....
But there's no J there?
She is a legend in her own way and deserves happiness and every luck in this world … love her ❤️
honestly most views these days are inflated. Fans go as far as to take on bot-like behaviour just to increase views artificially. It can be seen with some groups who got so many views yet still aren't as impactful in South Korea as less viewed groups. When I used to go to Noraebang in Korea with my Korean friends, the song choices were always those of "less viewed" artists.
I remember seeing some stans in a fandom saying they dont shower or go to school anymore just so they can stream- and although thats hard to believe, I personally know people who are like that.
Can you suggest some Artists whose songs are being played ??
while what you said is true.. it still only works if your fandom is HUGE! we are talking about hundred of million of views even billions.
There are alot of smaller fanbases that try to stream hard, but they barely gaining any views close to these numbers.
By fans you mean American teens fans that will max out their parents credit cards just to buy anything from bts,BP and twice and buy multiple devices to stream a video or vote all day just so they idols can win a useless award
And some take offense you dont stream like a bot after you've already watch the stream, like gurl I don't have time for that. Go touch grass smh
SNSDs Gee was the first k-pop song I ever heard in 2009, been a fan of the genre ever since
As a sone….I just at this point don’t need to hear anymore about their split. I can see they’re all happy and thriving and doing amazing things- that’s all I could ever want for them! She is forever part of snsd to me and I can’t separate her from them in my mind, but I can respect and see how amazingly she has been doing with her brand, music, etc. I love them all so much…. I miss them…
@@yurinary7006 we know for a fact that they have a group chat where they chat and share memes (Sooyoung mentioned it on her video reacting to some sone edits), just isn’t clear if it’s ot8 or ot9.
I still remember that goddamn 9/30/2014. Days before that, they released a song called Indestructible and singing how the Soshi Bond is really indestructible. Then I suddenly woke up to see the news from allkpop which is notoriously known for spreading fake news. I was skeptical and didnt even take it in and just laughed about it. However, when I have checked on the other SONEs posts, it was indeed true. I was bawling my eyes. I was really crying and depressed for the whole week even crying. It was also a day when we did a reporting, I was really crying and sometimes tried to keep it in. Jessica is my bias and one of the things sold me in to SNSD is their sisterhood and to see that "friendship" was actually the reason why my bias was kicked out, it did let me down. I was very doubtful and unsure to enter KPOP world but SNSD invited me in. They are the first group who struck my heart and I really felt betrayed at that time. 9/30 was a cursed day for me. I always remember it whenever 9/30 comes
Yes 09/30 is a cursed day for all of us sones…
That "friendship" was not the reason she was kicked out lol. It's obvious the girls still have love for each other. The kicking out controversy id between Jessica and SM NOT Jessica and the girls.
For one they're open about when they argue and disagree, but that's what makes them human because at the end of the day they still loved and cared about each other. They mentioned this a bunch of times during variety tv and I think it's healthy to talk about it unlike many kpop groups you see with a happy face. Snsd were a family to each other.
@@animecookies8784 some of them yes but i dont everyone feels the same. This friendship explains as to why they still didnt have a single picture after some of them has left SM already. I mean come on, its been years. Some of them has been out of the contract from SM atleast a single picture with her right? But nah. But thats okay, if theres a fight between them, i would understand. Im just a fool to believe about that friendship
AEX it’s because since the three members are still in SNSD, they have some sort of contract and it could be included that they’re still not allowed to have interactions with Sica
@@aex2309 the one that left SM still have SNSD in their name. So they still have contract that ties their hands to SM regarding their SNSD case
I LOVE THEM SO MUCH I WANT A RÉUNION OR A COMEBACK. THEY ARE SUCH ICONS.
They are having comeback soon
@@ellyonly1550 but as ot8…..of course 😭
all of them are gonna be on You Quiz on the block next week
@@sunako945 yeah. I’m so excited. My top favourite group gonna have comeback soon. Snsd and T-ara forever
@@sunako945 I SAW OMG they look so gorgeous and healthy 🥺😭 I can't wait to watch the whole thing
I read Shine in one sitting! I could not put it down! It’s soooooo good!!! I am super excited for the sequel!!! And even though it’s highly unlikely, I am hoping for an OT9 reunion… being a fan of SNSD since 09, i was heartbroken when she was forced out the group… all because she wanted to do her own thing smh… either way, I hope one day SNSD can reunite as 9… we shall wait and see 💗
I still hope that one day, everything will be revealed and cleared up ONCE AND FOR ALL. We, Sones, deserve to know the whole truth. please. we were heartbroken too when 1 member left the group. I hope the members will be allowed to talk about it one day
Honestly when they get back together nowadays I can’t help but be a bit sad bc of the Jessica situation. I know they signed an NDA but acting like she never existed is tough to watch it must sting to be left out of all the reunions even if she is successful individually.
I’m still hoping that one day Snsd and jessica would speak up about what happened in 2014 because it’s still a mystery for me. I just hope that they clear things up and tell us everything that has happened before cause it’s been almost 7 yrs and it really still breaks my heart and I’m confused on why jessica was kicked out/departed from the group
It's all come back to business terms
Jessica definitely still talks to Girl's Generation. It's obvious. But they can't be public with their interactions for whatever reason.
i read somewhere that she keeps in coach with less than half the girls and fell off with some. i also read that she talks to some occasionally
I've heard that Sunny, Yoona and Seohyun went to Jessica's birthday party this year
Yup ig shows they've been at the same.places. At the same time
I think it's telling that seohyun and yoona see to be the members most distant from the others
@@schmoneysworld3790 Yoona and Seohyun is the busiest as of the moment so you won't see them often with other members, same as Sunny.
Hyo, Tiff, Yul and Soo are the current members who have a lot of free sched. Tae still have Amazing Sat and she just finished her Weekend promotion last month.
@@schmoneysworld3790 do not assume unless you're sure about it.
Jessica wrote on her official statement that both SM and the members supported her business at first but "others had a changed of hearts" (line from her statement). I still believed in what she said until now than SM. Call me bias but I believed in Jessica's words more than SM.
Seems like they moved on already but it will still remained as the biggest mystery in KPOP. And also a lot of people after what happened keep on discrediting Jessica's hard work as a SNSD member. I just want to remind you again and again that SNSD's peak, their glory days was when they were 9, not 8. SNSD debuted as 9. For SNSD's iconic first 7 years together, Jessica was there. Their biggest smash hits had 9 voices. They won a lot of awards when they were 9. And Jessica was there when SNSD became the Nation's Girl Group and Legendary Girl Group.
that is called team work, it is not only bcs of jessica
@@geaghibrella6015 I'm not saying it's only Jessica, I'm talking about other people acting like she didn't contribute a big part of SNSD's popularity and achievements. That's why I said they achieved a lot of things when they were 9.
jokes on them she was one of the most famous, had a lot of lines, center and screen time
@@nuestfan5621 Exactly, it really all went downhill from there for the group and uphill for her.
@@Amystudio yeah even though their releases after did well they werent as impactfull like the ones with her or their last comeback mr mr together but it seems all of them are doing well in their solo career same as jessica which is good
I still remember the days jessica news leaving snsd, I was crying as river. I was crying a whole day and can't still believe this would be happen. Because I never though snsd in bad terms or something. I thought maybe they just fight, jessica will come back but no. I still remember, I still waiting for jungsis season 2 but it cancelled. Then, during sm concert, sone were screaming jessica's name and the others were crying. I saw the fancam and it's really broke my heart. It takes a long time to move on from what happen and we still never know what is the reason.
Jessica seems happier now more then ever so i’m glad she moved on.
Now this friday she will release her OST track I can’t sleep that will feature in season 2 of jessica and krystal this september.
So we can expect big things coming from jessica ❤️
I remember the day she left so vividly. I was in high school. I remember seeing it online before I went to school. Literally couldn't focus throughout the entire day as my thoughts were constantly on the girls. Snsd were the first and only group I basically dedicated my entire life to, I remember been so upset and confused as to why Jessica left as it seemed so out of the blue. I of course still support the girls just as much, but it's a day that will always be etched in my mind. I was worried that, that would be the end of snsd, but I'm so glad they were all able to carry on and bring love to us sones and golden stars 🌟 Thank you soshi. No matter their paths, I was always follow close behind.
I remember hear the news too. I'm sad. Real sad. But because i'm mostly a logical person, i try to see that complicated situation in logical mind. And can accept the outcome and still have positive frame of mind to still support them In whatever road they are taken several years ago. Gladly, they still here and do their best in their own path. Proud of them
Goshhh same experience!
So, how is Jessica's relationship with the SNSD memers?
That is the only thing you didnt say.
She wanted views that's all. No one knows how is Jessica relationship with Soshi members except for the girls themselves.
Lmaoo
Obviously! Nobody knows how their relationship is like
Jessica's releasing a brand new song this Friday the 27th!!! The name is 잠이 오지 않아 and is is part of the OST for a show she filmed with her sister Krystal 2 years ago. Please stream it!!!
Only if 2 nd gen group had combacks my soul will rest in piece
I heard T-ara and SNSD prep for their comeback we expect it to be at the end of this year
2pm are back.
Super junior are back.
Shinee are back minus one.
Highlight are back.
CL is back.
@@wabalaka1565 wow
2nd gen groups are having comebacks where have u been lol
@@brennathecatlover4360 I know that 2 pm has but I want big bang and 2 ne1 to comeback I wish they are
SNSD got me into kpop so I am very emotionally attached to them , they will always be iconic and FOREVER will be Ot9 in our hearts no matter what , Okay! Now I am suddenly missing them alot.
I think most of them have a relationship with Jessica. I’m pretty sure the remaining members feel bad about what happened back then.
Then how come they have to hide their relationship with Jessica ? Even those who left SM are never seen with Jessica, not one picture, nothing !
@@Bom13 bc NDAs exist 🙄
@Libv Look it doesn't have to be a "proof", it would just be normal behaviour in a healthy relationship. But they clearly HIDE it as if it was a shameful friendship. Why hide a relationship that lasted more than a decade ? That's just sick.
You don't have a problem when the other 8 members post pictures on instagram and interact with each other, do you ? Why is it a problem to comment on Jessica's Instagram or be seen with her then ?
Why aren't they free to do so ? This is all the result of SM's shady manipulations and sh!tty contracts, this company is evil and they drive their idols crazy or depressive. And people like you shamelessly encourage them
@@mads12345 I do believe that they all signed a NDA preventing them from talking about how Jessica was fired.
But if they also signed something that prevents them from even being seen with each other, isn't that some kind of restraining order ? 😅
@@Bom13 many company in entertainment are evil. Let's face that reality
I read Shine a few months ago! NGL one of my favorite books haha, it's really good and had me hooked instantly. Definitely worth a read!
Jessica is still one of my ult biases I just adore her. She’s a huge role model for me and I have nothing but respect for her ❤️
Some of songs in my playlist are from Jessica's albums, even Love Me The Same was played in my wedding ceremony, OT9 forever❤️
I truly believe Jessica doesn't have any hate towards GG members she was just mad that no one tried to stood up for her to carry on her personal business and have her freedom (but I always had a lil dissapointment with her because she came off as kind of a petty and selfish person sometimes, I mean if you want to pursue another career you should have left the group not to argue with the whole company to get what you wanted coz you are still an employee for them and she left all the blame and dirt to other members... but BUT I can't hate her I still love our ice princess alot)
GG members might have to let her go to save the group because many I mean MANY people loved them adored them and knew their fans will still support them and of course to save their jobs as idols as well since its their very passion.
anyhow I'm glad to see all the members and Jessica doing well and thriving in their own career paths. it's amazing because I grew up with them. I hope I witness OT9 together before I die. I really do.
I agree with you. I don't hate her. I love all 9 of them with all of my heart. And I don't have any right to say who is wrong or who's right because we don't know the whole situation. But I kinda think Jessica should have either left the group on her own (obviously I am ot9 fan and don't want any of them to leave but if they are happy with it then I am also happy) or should've wait for her contract to end. I can be completely wrong and Sica could be completely innocent victim but again we don't have complete information about it.
Why can't she have another career like the other girls too?
@@hannathatsme9086 Which other girls? Other SNSD members?
@@yoonaera8337 yeah just wonder that
@@hannathatsme9086 I don't really know the full details and I might not be able to give you the full and correct details because English is not my first language and I don't have full information. But I have just heard that if you have signed a contract with big entertainment companies like SM then you can't open up your business like Jessica launched her own clothing brand (sorry if I am wrong). As for other members they haven't done anything like that.
Her vocal is actually represent SNSD. She make SNSD song sound wonderful with her adlibs.
Nahh. That's Taeyeon
Lex it’s both. It’s their harmonies that made SNSD songs so magical
@@AoDk673 CALM.
@@AoDk673 no it's both of them.
@@AoDk673 tayeon's voice is too strong... Jessica's voice fits the snsd's concept... Which is feminine, fearless and sossy...
WE BRING THE BOYS OUT !!!!!
We're born to win better tell all your friends
And that iconic drop in *The Boys* . God I love those days ❤️
Jessica's vocals added a lot to many songs, especially the Japanese ones. Songs like Youaholic, Great Escape, Hero, etc would not be the same without her.. When she left the group they never were the same.
When I first got into snsd around 2009 Jessica was my first female kpop crush/bias. I'll never forget about her
She is in contact with the other girls, there is a photo of sunny holding Jessica's book... I think they have a contract were jassics can't speak openly about the group and the group about Jessica. That's why they're always avoiding to talk about each other
Stop being delusional there is no picture, they doesn't want to related anymore with that betrayer
C'mon stop inventing things. "Holding Jessica's book" NEVER happened
It is just a book that has "Jessica" name/label on it
Why would she hold a book marketed to trash SNSD image for quick money?
let's just support them. Jessica finally pursued her dream. I hope this issue just stop... Our heart still not fully recovered.
One thing I will NEVER forget is how sones and fans alike betrayed Jessica. They switched up on her so fast I couldn't believe it, going from claiming how important all members were to purposely act like Jessica was never part of the group. While SNSD pre-2014 will always have a place in my heart as the group that brought me to KPOP, that year made me realize how much KPOP is just a pretty facade.
Not all sones.. I'm a Sone too but I respect their decision, I understand because on 2014, I parted ways with my girlfriends too. We had each others back in a boarding school up to our graduation. We even had a promise that we're going to job huntings together but reality sets in. One of our friends is already engaged at 19 and awaiting her marriage while one of us had to go abroad. It's sad and bittersweet but hey we hold on even though we didn't seen each other since 2014..
I'm just a commoner but I somehow relate to SNSD's life story. Just like Sooyoung said, we had bad days as well as good old days
I actually left with her. She will always have my heart, after what happened the others not so much and 3 of them not at all.
Not all of them, jessica can't perform on korea because SM is banned her, there a lot of her fans there
I wish the best for all of the SNSD members and Jessica but also, CONGRATS ON 200K SUBSCRIBERS!!!🎊🥳🎉
It was 7 years in the spotlight and so much more before debuting.
OT9 for the Win!!! ❤❤❤❤
Anyone who read shine would know what jessica thinks about the other 8... guys they are not as close as we thought they are
Wdym
@@siham1533 she said there was a lot of hatred and competition since day 1
To be quite honest Jessica being solo is one of the best things that can happen to her and her growth and her career. Being signed to companies like SM you have to do everything by their book and push the image they want yeah you may help right the song with a few other people. But full creative design belongs to the company when it comes to the album the video and everything. Even business endeavours they will find a way to get a portion of that money and don’t think you’re gonna grow and open up shops without their approval either. Having the freedom she has now is well deserved. Even Tiffany when she didn’t resign, yes she is still considered part of SNSD but she is not an SM artist and they don’t get any of her money that she makes from her music and tours and TV appearances. She’s been everywhere in the media way more and even has her own show on mobidic
So nice to see all the positive messages about Jessica!
As SONE, I just wait with respect. The time will come, they will talk about it and reunite again.
i believe someone under the agency has something to do with her leaving (not blaming anyone in snsd) because of the similarities between her book and the situation she was going thru at the time 🤭
May I know what jessica’s book about?
@@meretequila It’s basically about two female trainees that like the same guy (already debuted) and they get into a scandal and the other girl that likes the guy tries to ruin the main characters career (a bad summary)
@@diickvandyke i wanted to believe Jessica and the members are still friends but in this book, there are 8 characters and some of them are mean to the main character. I hope those situations aren't based on real life
@@spheksophobiaurinal same but the similarities are too similar
For those who want to know the members : Tiffany Sooyoung and taeyeon (as the mean girls in her book)
Whilst I'm happy she found success after hey dismissal, I think the hope that ot9s have for a reunion is silly.
There are now 3 members of SNSD no longer under sm contracts, and they haven't been for nearly 5 years. They have had plenty of time to "speak up" but won't, bc ot9 is in the past. The girls and Jessica aren't friends anymore, and likely haven't been since 930.
They aren't hiding their friendship from the SM eye of Sauron. That makes literally no sense and anyone suggesting that grown adults would do this are delusional.
Jessica is inspiring wow
Yuri was the one who always clowns us with ot9 crumbs, tho it made us confused but we can't deny that we're still hoping that one day we will see them again gathering as a whole in front of their fans. #GG4EVA
Yuri always the most open person, the kind of girls that really outgoing
Whenever what Soshi members decide for their lives to be more comfortable, I still support! I wish that not only Jessica will have enough freedom, but all of them. I love them all #GG4EVA9
Jessica's departure scarred the entire Kpop industry, that's for sure. The group is always been a big part of Kpop.
Edit: She said "She wasted some of her time in the past". It was because she started her entire teenage years with the company and look what the company did to her. But the statement directed on the company, NOT on the Group.
Hmm mmm sounded like u wish that's what she meant... sometimes people r not as nice as they seems ... just saying ... if I said to u " im wasting my time typing this " and trying to correct it oh ya I meant TH-cam not u ... at the end of the day ... it still means I think im wasted my time ...... 🤷♀️
she say " wasted time in the past" but the past her is what make her shine now.
Honestly if didn't waste her time she wouldn't be what she is without wasting that time
@the boys kookieliet literally said wasted her time
@@Riizeis7burnsm SHE NEVER SAID THAT. What’s the context of that sentence ? In her Chinese movie. Do your own research and stop being a 🐑
@@blue.Nina426 you literally dumb I saod In my dam comment that kookieliet said that she said that can you read?
Even if she wasn't in Kpop she can still soar high. Her perseverance in her plans is making her rich today, she bravely pursue doing business behind sm ent. even if it means everything. Well you know being an idol is not a lifetime but business stays and can be passed into generations very wise decision indeed. Jung sisters are smart woman.
Jessica was that one who got pushed off the boat and found an island all for her while the boat slowly sinks. Tragic yet she came on top.
shes sooooooo strong.
SNSD will always be known as Kpop legends.
Jessica will always be known as the one who got kicked out.
top my ass lol SNSD 8 will always be legends ehem yoo quiz soon, Jessica will always be the one who got kicked out and EX member
SNSD trajectory continued upward after Jessica left.
@@1southernsun not as intensely, thats the difference. Of course their still famous just not as much as when they were the iconic 9. Their juniors run Kpop now.
Jessica is a huge chunk of SNSD. TaengSic harmony will always be legendary.
Some rumors said that her novel will turn into a Hollywood movie and she will be working with the team behind "To All The Boys I've Loved Before" and she will be releasing a new song on the 27th August for the Jessica & Krystal Show S2!
Like the part that Jessica sang in the song "Divine". "We are Always One". I choose to believe the lyrics
Good for her☺️ wishing her all the best~
Its not like she can say she hated it, cuz it would be bad for her PR, plus still lives out of that fame…
Kind of agree with this
ジェシカは少女時代には必要なボーカル✨💪🤩
何故なら彼女の声は他のメンバーにはない声色をもっていてメインボーカルのテヨンの強いボーカルに対して優しくソフトな声色はより魅力的な少女時代を作り上げるからです🥰🤩💪
是非また九人が揃った姿が観たいものです❤️🔥
I'm happy that they are successful individually and achieving their dreams as they should. Happy for them meeting up secretly as well (ex. when they played golf, etc)
I love Jessica, but her saying that if she had stayed with SNSD, she wouldn’t been able to achieve her dreams, I don’t agree with that. Seeing the snsd members now, they are all free and doing what they love now. Jessica just got a head start on that.
No she wouldn't of been able to do that, many of the members have left the company to pursue their acting dreams. They did say they will have a comeback one day as eight but its clear that SNSD is not their focus now. They are all able to go for their dreams because their contracts were finally up. SM originally was okay with Jessica having a brand but I don't think they realized how much time it would take out of her schedule. I bet they just gave her an ultimatum. Her brand or her group and it seems like she couldn't let go of her brand so they decided to let go Jessica.
I don't believe she would have achieved her dreams fully (the way it is right now) if she stayed with SNSD. I bet she will encounter a lot of restrictions, and probably conflicts had she stayed as a gg member seeing how strict companies can be. Why do you think Seohyun, Sooyoung, and Tiffany left when their contracts expired? Jessica's ventures weren't even just to become an actress or becoming a solo act at the time - it was owning a business.
Personally I think jessica started in snsd is a good thing because she got money,experience, popularity, friends, sisters and of course fans that love her. Starting a business cost a lot of money, and need a lot of customers. To be honest when she said that she wasted some time in the past I feel sad, it’s not like they force you to do it but jessica also decide that on her own so I think she should be thankful to the people that support her and also what happened in the past because it makes her strong and be the person that she wanted to be right now. I really like jessica but I think SM is the one that is wrong here. As you can see snsd as 8 always include jessica in their own way like they still think that they are 9 members and I think they support jessica in secret because SM doesn’t want them to be in contact to jessica. You know SM they are evil 🥺.
@@deerine agree, starting a business is easy. You need to spend a lot of time, and definitely it will impact the group activities. Being in a group is a job, you can't work 2 jobs at the same time.
@@mariaaaa5266 em, can i know when jessica said she wasted her time in girls generation?
Action speaks louder than word. Not once did SNSD members mention about the story but Jessica profiting from her cryptic books and stuff. Secondly, suppose SNSD members stood up for Jessica, what happens next. Jessica can always fall back to her fashion brand and her music label which funnily both backed up her rich boyfriend. The others, I'm not sure what their parachute would be. And it doesn't make sense for the girls to give up many years of training. Either way, it wouldn't have worked to be an idol and also a designer/entrepreneur. Jessica should just move on like everyone else.
Gold
These girls have side hustles, cut the crap. The great thing about Jessica is that she succeeds in everything she does. It's not like she succeeded because of her rich boyfriend. It's understandable that people would be jealous of someone with such talent.
A few notes. She already had to fashion brand when she left snsd. Many believe that this was one of the reasons she got kicked out. Another thing, or her book “shine” she doesn’t explain her side of the history. In fact, there’s really nothing to do with SNSD. If you read the book you will see it’s just a fiction book (believe me, i tried to find the correlations)
She did not deserve to get kicked out.
JESSICA
$M FORCED ME TO LEAVE THE GROUP😔
FACT SNSD
MOSTLY FULL ALBUM
THE 2ND GENERATION NATIONAL GIRL GROUP🥰
I still miss Jessica though. She was my favorite but currently I am kinda stuck into current members. 💕
This scandal damaged SNSDs reputation. Although still popular, we can't deny the fact that after this, their immense popularity declined.
They have very good acting skills and popularity, but no one teaches them how to communicate that they are giant babies and don’t think about the future consequences.
I am so proud of her ❤️
kpop idol is just a business. if they show us like friendship. that is a fanservice 👍
she is the icon of kpop..................gg forever...
YT recommend these vid multiple times already but I'm afraid to watch it and to read the comments everytime her removal is brought up arguments are inevitable and I'm so tired of those.I need to be mentally prepared everytime I watch a snsd content like these. I hope ot9 sone will get a good closure that they deserved.
Thisss! Amen!
Our ice princess!!!
Anyone remember when Jessica's song was played on the intro of Tiffany's concert?
What? 😳...when?
yup, i was at the concert and i was shocked when it started playing
@@nuclearbananas3 did they play it accidentally?
@@woofwoofnation nope, it was part of tiffany's playlist for before the show
If SNSD ever come back, and that's a big if. It will be as an 8 member girl group.
The terms with which Jessica was dismissed are entirely different to the contract expirations of 2017. And no, we don't have the details on why sm dismissed her - only theories. Remember, Jessica hasn't given any reasons either.
I remember the day I read about the article on allkpop and Soompi about her getting kicked out of the group. I was at work on my lunch break eating a cakepop. I was soo sad :( At first, I was hesitant to believe the news because the sources it came from were always lying and being skeptical, but then Jessica confirmed it was true when she posted on her weibo about getting kicked out and not being invited back to the ShenShen chinese fan meeting they had that same day. If you watch the fancams from that concert, all of the chinese Sone's were screaming for Jessica. I wish I was with them to scream as well. Jessica is my ultimate Bias in kpop. She is what made me believe in Soshibond. When she left, I lost interest in SNSD. But I still support them all in their individuals activities, but I sure do miss ot9. I just wish SM could quit being a dick and allow them to hang out in public because the fans deserve it.
Yeaaa...she is the idol one fan goes airport fashion trends.. she is really all rounder !when she just debuted many though she the main vocal while taeyeon lead vocal.
But if I were her I will not regretted to leave early to have own freedom and time with family that most idol had lost ..imagine Several years staying with member at dorm is so unhealthy lifestyle.unlike Chinese celebrity's they have their personal time or space..she is with sm 13 years old +-
They are still a kids... Jung Sister spend time with your old parent and relatives and friend these moment is more precious than Other thing more.
Jessica said in an interview years ago that she's still in contact with some of the members but not all. I know Sooyoung has tagged people on Instagram that get also get tagged in Jessica's pictures the same day and in the same place. This has happened with other members too.
that interview was most likely fake. because it was for fly promotion and at the same time, a more reputable inteview (billboard) says she hasn't seen the members in a long time.
@@arieam I guess we'll never know. The billboard interview was in 2016 so they definitely could have met up since then. I don't remember when the posts on Instagram were made. I know everyone was saying they could hear some of the girls in the backgrounds of her birthday post but it'll always just be a wishful guess.
I remember Jessica saying Tiffany's debut really suits her, because thats something tiff would def do for her solo.
It's not just idol groups that clash with each other, but individuals as well. Even before 930, the girls talked about the conflicts in their daily lives on many talk shows.
Yuri is caught like every week watching/liking OT9 content
Jessica Jung will always be a queen and a relevant icon in Korean Pop Music and is also now a fashion icon, TH-cam vlogger and Asian high society member.
Girl's Generation, no matter how many members people wish to acknowledge, will always be the first and longest KPop Group to be called Nation's Girl Group because they are legends in the industry.
All nine of them deserve the greatness and success they've acquired over the last 14 years, individually and as a group.
My first love, SNSD 💙🥰
lol...she left with confidence, because she was already having her own business. When she decided that, everyone in the members were scared, uncertain, angry, bitter and perhaps felt she was being selfish. However, none of the 8 seem to really grasp the idea , you can only last so long as groups. That said, everyone were already thinking to diversify into acting, solo, variety shows MC and etc in the entertainment, and there was Jessica, just being simply wanting to move on earlier than most. It was the peak, and they should do that before newer group comes in....ie: TWICE, BTS, BlackPink, etc....even Big Bang knows when to exit, and be fondly remembered for greatness and successful solo for some.
That sourness and bitterness hopefully might deter over time. You spent part of your immature years from trainees, rookies, debut, success together... Not many made it. That is something they might hold their memories more preciously as they grow mature and older.
This is the same case for FinKL, whom are best remember in korea early 2000s era...ie: G.O.D as well. Let it be a good memory then, what is the point wasting remembering bad ones. Life is too short for resentments.
Jessica leaving SM will always be a mystery , Jessica Reunion with SNSD will always be a hope .
Our Ice Princess, Sica 👑👸❤️
That photo you used where Jessica leaving the company happened way back 2012 she covered her face because she doesn't have make up and fans and Paparazzi was there, she wasn't crying. Still nobody knows why she was kicked out or leaved, She was banned by SM and Korean entertainment industry to perform, she was banned and the other members to mention names, One thing's for sure no bullying all of them are still friends and still their sisters. We SONE still support and will still support her.
not even 5 seconds in the video and i got emotional with the *girls generation has been a big a part of our lives growing up*
Isn’t insane that she’s been out of the group for as long as she has been of the group :/ time flies :/
SNSD and Jessica doesn’t have anything left to prove to be called an legendary group! Whether as an OT9 or 8
They were legendary the moment they beat the odds in making it in this Industry!!
Coming here after reading Jessica's book hits different rn
Tell me about it 😭 I fear that my long journey as an OT9 stan might be coming to an end finally. I've tried my very best to stay neutral about it all, I can no longer. Regardless whether any of it is true or fiction, can't help but feel very differently about Jessica now sadly.
The book is telling that it was indeed the 8 others who didn’t want her in the group anymore. Before a concert, Jessica was told by a person that if she comes to the concert, the 8 others will not come with her.
@@blue.Nina426 i know i don't even know how to react after reading it
@@xKayNee ikr it basically talks about how the other girls didn't want to perform with her and she was kicked out bcs of this but like idk what to believe cause it might be fictional but on the other hand it might be the real situation it just makes sense to me tho when you watch videos of Jessica being kinda left out but like idkkk
@@cutthecrap4736 I was sure that some of them were besides Jessica like sunny, seohyun and Yoona …. But I am glad of her because she was telling the truth since the beginning and o am sure that’s why SM didn’t pursue her for her Weibo post
Do you guys remember that one Korean tv show with Snsd with girls generation tiffany,jessica etc with a lie detector test and tiffany failed the lie detector test was truthful when tiffany admit she did not like jessica..
Yep...
Jess was removed from the group in 2014.
Jess left the company in 2015.
It makes my heart warm when i see the 9 of them happy with each other
Now you said it , before blackpink blowout in USA , it was SNSD who took the crown !!!!
4th gen fans have an issue with when view counts on TH-cam =/= popularity. They were every bit as successful as Blackpink and then some.