earlier I was listening to the explanations of the spokesman of the white house, he said that the next day in Carolina Biden said that he knows that he is not young anymore, he knows that he no longer speaks the way he used to speak, he knows that his mind is slower, then my question it is, the hell are you still running when the fate of the country is so complicated, because of him we will have a total leadership of trump and all his associates.
You people need to also look at Trump who himself has issues not far from Biden’s. America has a choice between two old men. Both have issues. One should not be president the other a self-serving malignant narcissist who must not be president.
The Times are still seething there's no improvement in the Tories polling. They've spent the last weeks talking about how horrible the election is for the Conservatives and absolutely zero time talking about how horrible the Conservatives have been.
@@MattBooth That would require self reflection and could piss off their subscribers. Cable news and newspapers are not in the business of informing the public, but keep subscribers and selling ads in this dying business.
@@briangasser973 EVERY organisation is in the business of achieving its goals. The only organisation I can think of which has the goal of meeting the criteria you imply is the BBC - which is an utter GEM in this world of propaganda.
@@itsme-nt2lj" there's your mistake " Why? the USA relies on a rational Europe too. Or do you want to divide and rule? Или же вы хотите разделять и властвовать?
the catch with that is we were the democracy prototype. We're still stuck on the beta software because our system makes it too easy for those who hate modernity to block uploading the 1.0 gold master, when the Founders themselves anticipated a major update through a constitutional convention ever 20 to 30 years. Instead, we've never had one, not even after the Civil War when three major constitutional amendments were passed only for the Supreme Court to spend the next 70 years neutering the most important one. Our aspirations for freedom, open societies and self-determination are essential to the world and that's where America's status comes from, not from being a big boorish bully as the American Right seems to think, but our reality means the world can't count on it.
@@sabejreid2072 No Way! Name me a radical left Labour MP who is left & not now a independent. They are centre, most likely pushing to the right to deal with reform... same old crap to come I'm afraid.
It s not the man who counts but his team and Biden has an excellent team at work. How can someone vote for a serial liar and convicted felon is beyond me. Democrats do not have the time to seriously launch a substitute to Biden. Voting blue all the way up down the ballot is the only way to preserve some sort of decency and democracy particularly after hearing the last Supreme Court ruling on president immunity. Between fighting hard the former and standing strong on abortion and promoting Biden economic successes , democrats should be OK with Biden. After all his most recent speeches were fine his State of Union address was of a super great caliber. One bad evening does not disqualify the old man facing an extremely toxic individual such as Trump. Lastly the newly emerging rolling stone referring to project 2025 might have a disastrous effect on the Republicans and MAGA cult.
Any excellent discussion - particularly, about Reform. I fear Freddie is correct; this is just the beginning for Reform and I am sure that they are planning accordingly. Unless they get literally no seats, I think that they will shrug off any issues relating to this election and build both parliamentary, local and party infrastructure. If they get no seats, I think that they will reconsider how to build but build they will.
Are you old enough to remember 1997? The Tories were apparently doomed then too. Farage is a grifter, the last thing he wants is the PM's job, the salary isn't big enough.
If the mainstream parties ignore their idealistic bubble living members and listen to the electorate then fix the problems they are concerned about (like mass immigration), there will be no need for Reform.
Farage and co never get much support but seems to influence the Tories (Brexit!) and push everyone to ignore the thieves in the city of London and blame the immigrants on boats for all their problems. Fascism pure and simple
As an American lifelong Democrat I can't agree more. I can't believe that Biden will not step down. That decision itself is enough to confirm that he doesn't have the requisite judgement required even now let alone as the years progress. It never made sense to run again. He will be responsible for what happens when Trump wins.
The game is over. Americans see that it is not left vs right, MAGA R’s or Progressive D’s. It is about a powerful group of plutocrats who invent narratives out of whole cloth. The same in UK.
@@SydneyMooNonsense. Russian collusion withbTrump & election interference brought about Trump 2016. Read the Senate Report vol. V. And cases against GOP operatives in swing States. (Targeted dicersion of votes).
@@briangasser973 But still managed to tarnish her legacy by clinging to her position for too long, overplaying her hand, and ending up with the exact opposite outcome from what she wanted because of her own ego.
The question isn't really about Trump and Biden but is about why the US has ended up with 2 candidates that both in their own way have so little to offer American voters. The deregulation of financial institutions and deindustrialization of the US economy was instigated by Nixon in the early 1970's purely to maximise the profits for the benefit of wealthiest political donors. The end result has been the decline in living standards for ordinary households across the US, who have now effectively given up on mainstream politics and are simply choosing the "angry option" that Trump is offering or the "anti-trump" option of Biden, but neither the Republicans or Democrats are offering any real structural changes to the Nixon model that continues to push more and more wealth, into the hands of fewer and fewer people..
The primary reason why the US is in turmoil, is due to mass-non-white immigration and, indeed, slavery. Alas, Britain is also doomed because of mass-non-European immigration.
@@stephenhill545... but he chose the unelectable Harris as VP, purely to outflank the "disaster" of an actual left wing president. Billionaire interests are the reason Biden is standing. The end of democracy is small beer to billionaires, as long as they operate beyond government control.
@@stephenhill545 You're still under the assumption Biden can make decisions on his own. You need to bin that mentality and understand he doesn't know whats going on anymore.
We have no choice but to support Biden if he refuses to step down. We cannot legally replace him. He has all the delegates. Biden would have to voluntarily step down and release the delegates which a lot of his aides and the party wanted him to do but they say Jill and Hunter and the Biden family got very angry and begged Joe not to step down, although he was willing to for the good of the country.
We don't "have" to support anyone. Someone who aspired to the Presidency isn't owed any votes- the candidate needs to earn votes. Biden is no longer a man who inspires confidence. Remember when people said we had no choice but to support Hillary? How did that work out? Voters have a nasty habit of not backing unappealing candidates.
If Joe Biden was UK Prime Minister he would have been elected as an MP during the Parliament when Edward Heath was Prime Minister. Although, as he was elected but became a Senator rather than a Congressman, the equivalent might be more he became a Life Peer in the House of Lords during the time Edward Heath was Prime Minister. In 1984 President Reagan was asked in the Presidential Debate if he was too old to serve a 2nd term (he was 73), he made a famous joke saying he would not hold his rivals youth and inexperience against him. He won and was president until aged 77. Both Trump and Biden are older now then when President Reagan finished being President.
I live in Menton, near Monaco, the local NF parties here and Nice talk about deporting non EU even those with work permits/ Brits like me if they are out of work for 6 months. 55% voted for the party in my town as they see immigrants trying to cross the border in nearby Ventimiglia.
What? - hanging on because you know what bastardry will follow on your retirement? I think they’re both fine examples of selflessness It was a bad day….. we all have one now & then
Don't any of you know anything AT ALL about french politics???? The Premiere Tour has not reflected the Deuxième Tour result for more than half a century.
At 4:15; It's not a question of vanity. It's a question of incumbency. We're not a parliamentary system; giving up incumbency is a huge, huge risk. Get Professor Allan Lichtman from American University on your show, now -- he'll explain it better than anyone else can, and he's the single best prognosticator of presidential election results we have. And Andrew Marr's suggestion that there's an opportunity for a clear break is dangerous; and Hannah Barnes's suggestion that race is not involved is naive. The only possible option at this point, with the delegates already committed, for a clean break is for Biden to resign the presidency immediately, installing Kamala Harris as president; a break from that pattern will trigger a major backlash among minority voters, particularly black women who are probably the most mobilized portion of the Democratic Party base. Biden and Harris, as president and vice president respectively, have the delegates and both the intraparty mandate and the national mandate ; nobody else does.
I think your general perspective is spot on but you’re a bit naive about the alienation of black women. Spend 10 minutes listening to black political radio and you’ll find that, as a topic of discussion, Kamala Harris inspires yawns or head-shaking. Black voters want competent leaders, not figureheads.
@@jacqueline7389 fair enough, but those observations of Harris are a generality, not a specific presidential succession question, and they haven't yet tried or even discussed shortcircuiting the line of succession to avoid her. Caution is warranted when considering how the public will react to an unforeseen situation.
@@danielbliss1988 Caution is warranted indeed. The cautious among us will note that Ms Harris's approval ratings are now, and indeed have generally been, abysmal. It doesn't seem a huge step up to replace a senile standard-bearer with one who is generally regarded as light-weight non-entity. There are perhaps, in the entire USA, maybe three voters who would have otherwise voted for Trump who will say "hang on a second, there's a black lady running!" and change their vote.
Stunned that the US doesn't have a bigger talent pool. Hopefully the people pick the party they want and hopefully Biden can step aside after the election
I am not sure how one defines "far right." The working definition seems to be someone who disagrees with the ideas of the leftists who run the media, universities, corporations and government bureaucracies.
As always insightful, but the word "should" is a little problematic form me.....should "should" be reserved for the US voting public? I wouldn't much like a Russian, Iranian, or American telling me who I "should" vote for, for example. That said, Trump should sort his hair out.
Trump 2024! All the leftist BS won’t stop us from electing the best president USA has had in 50 years. Just compare what the world was like up to January 2020.
What do you mean by "Getting the economy (US) back on track.' If Biden's debate was a surprise for you, perhaps you are more out of touch with other things in America. Financially, Americans are hurting!
Most Americans would vote for a bowl of rice pudding rather than Trump. A bowl of rice pudding would be better. Problem is that most Americans voting against Trump won’t be sufficient this time around.
No one speaks English better than the English. Americans are mostly well down the scale of real fluency. Both Biden and Trump must seem awful to you. Imagine what Queen Elizabeth would have felt after watching that debate. We know she disliked Trump. If only she could have a word now with Biden! He doesn’t seem to listen to the most intelligent political strategists and advisors, but seems to feel he is the only one who can beat Trump.
4:28 She doesn't seem to know Biden very well (but that's what she believes). I would have enjoyed hearing her version of his stepping down graciously for the good of the country (once again - not who he is). His opponent didn’t have the globe on the precipice of WWIII, yet this gentleman is freaking out at the idea of him being back in office?
I'm with Freddie on reform. As un-PC as it may be but what some of the reform candidates say is what you hear in red wall working class areas and as long back as Disraeli and Gladstone people have always voted for someone that they can see themselves having a pint down the pub with which is where Nigel reins supreme.
Who was supposed to have called Biden a 'Silly old fool' as per the strapline for this interview? Whoever it was then that is incredibly rude and if one of the two guests, thoroughly beneath them! Pity some time wasn't spent discussing the truely appalling, totally inappropriate, morally bankrupt, dictatorial Trump!
Trump-haters are everywhere, without reason other than that he is unlikeable. He had a great record as President, despite the hostility of the Press, etc. With some support in the Congress, he could have been a great President. The LEFT only wanted to destroy everything he tried, even if it was right. I don't like him either, but he got things done. After years of failure by the NYC govt, Trump completed the ice skating rink at 30 Rock in less than a year. QED. And by the way, I am a registered Democrat. I have voted in every election since Johnson/Goldwater. I have only voted wrong twice: Nixon & Carter.
Go on. Laugh at people in old people’s homes. Wonderful - I’m sure they’re all having such a jolly good time that they’ll find your joke hilarious Freddie. Shame on you!
If Penny Modern does keep her seat I will guarantee you now she'll be in the run off for James cleverly for the leader of the Conservative Party however this time the grass root members will have a vote and Penelope Will Ace that Expect James Clevelly if he retains his seat To say at his Victory speech It's time for a change And will literally kick start his leadership campaign there and then similar to when Starmer Kickstarted his leadership campaign at his acceptance speech in 2019 You can also expect the same old faces to put their hats into the ring For the leadership race knowing full well they will lose and helping they will get a shadow Ministerial job out of it,
3:21 ‘It was like CCTV from an old people’s home’ - Poor taste joke. You’ll end up old yourself just like the rest of us - just you can’t imagine it as you’re so young - Hopefully by then people will have learnt not to write-off all old people and speak of them with smug derision as you do here.
I know this is popular at the moment, especially in the media, but it's a stupid idea. He should have stepped away before the primary. The chaos this would cause now would be equally as risky, if not moreso. None of the likely replacements poll well against Trump either. "Generic democrat" polls well, but individual Dems do not.
If they've already lost, it doesn't really matter in the American system. There's one of two choices for the presidency, they might as well roll the dice and hope.
@@sammyskulll2 If your view is that myopic, maybe. But there's more at stake. Money and relationships with power brokers in key districts across the country, just to start. Down ballot races and initiatives. Swing states. Just to name a few. The Senate is going to be especially hairy this time around. If Joe had picked someone more attractive to your average voter to be VP this might be a conversation worth having, at least then the transition would be more natural. But she polls worse than he does.
Why are British broadcasters opining on domestic US politics? While everyone is entitled to an opinion, that doesn't mean its's worth listening to. When the UK can boast the highest quality of life, lowest poverty, lowest corruption, greatest social mobility and most democratic, fairest, least racist & least misoynistic society may be then it can preach to other nations, but until then, perhaps it should get its own house in order first. PS. I'm not a US citizen.
I would vote for Stormy Daniels over Trump, but Biden is no longer fit for purpose. The impression most Americans got was frightening . Only 28% of those polled thought he should stand.
Most Americans already knew... we've been labelled conspiracy theorists, and liars since 2020... The Elites and the corrupt milked our country for the last 4 years, and every alphabet media mogul let them. The border is a mess, DEI is a racist abomination, big government is destroying our nation and Trump DOES INDEED love his country... Join the Trump train.... it cannot do anymore harm that what The Biden Administration has done already...
Why are British broadcasters opining on domestic US politics? While everyone is entitled to an opinion, that doesn't mean its's worth listening to. When the UK can boast the highest quality of life, lowest poverty, lowest corruption, greatest social mobility and most democratic, fairest, least racist & least misoynistic society may be then it can preach to other nations, but until then, perhaps it should get its own house in order first. PS. I'm not a US citizen.
An introduction to French elections. Elections are in two "tours" the first is open to any parties or independents. To win outright in the first tour a party must gain 51% of all the votes cast "and" 25% of the entire electorate. This prevents someone profiting from a low turnout. In the second tour, only the top two are allowed to present in each constituency. There can be a certain amount of coalitions formed and parties joined. The winning candidates can then if they have a majority take power or lesser parties can again form a coalition. Bare in mind that this has no effect on the President, he remains until the end of his tenier. The President then choses ministers of state including Prime Minister. It is entirely normal for people to make protest votes in the first tour, and obviously supporters of minority groups will gravitate to their closest candidate ideologically in the second tour. Paradoxically a good result in the first tour ça be detrimental to that party in the second. Imagine a second Brexit vote after people had been startled by the initial result.... Et maintenant, on verra !!!
Some factual mistakes here. You are thinking of the presidential election when you say that only the top two candidates move on to second round. In Parliamentary election, anyone above 12.5% of "registered voters" can compete in the second round. So you could have two, three, and sometimes even four candidates on the second round. Hence a very tactical decision: should you remove yourself from the ballots if your presence as the third candidate is likely to facilitate the far right to win the seat? Also the president doesn't choose the Ministers. He chooses the Prime Minister, normally from the party who got the most seats. It is then up to this Prime Minister to create his or her cabinet of Ministers.
@@GamerX13X - yes it's basically to narrow down the choices to the key candidates. This process has long been an obstacle for the RN (Far Right), as all the other parties would suggest voting against the RN. It represented a "plafond de verre" (glass ceiling) that limited their success, but this is no longer working.
National interest is the reason that some people in France have voted for Le Pen. Probably she's right that too.much immigration is a problem and that ex tremists should either be deported or jailed. The question is, why the centrist/left doesn't think the same, why they don't act in the best interests of their country. Same as uk, and rest of Europe
However people behave/ in government, to use words like sillily old fool or watching cctv in an old peoples home says so much about the non compassion of certain people. One will always be measured by the yard stick one’s uses against others.
So In short if Labour don’t cure the cost of living, immigration and the NHS within two years the public will move towards reform uk, if that’s the case then this country is doomed to revisit the last 14 years again
Labour and the Conservatives have the same policies. Electing Labour is a continuation, however the one thing the public have the power to do is reject the conservatives. Reform will likely be made illegal under Labour so they won’t take power regardless of public feeling or votes.
Fundamental misreading of Macron: his ‘bluff’ was not against the right and RN but it was a call for the left to join the center-right. The NFN is where it failed - not with the right.
It's strange how nobody seems to consider the realistic implications of Biden stepping down. If he did step down, the only person who would fill the vacancy is Harris, who people hate more than Biden. It would also speak volumes for the new candidate that they weren't good enough to replace a shuffling corpse at any point in the primary. The biggest competitor to Biden in the primary was 'non committal' after all. Not Newsom. Not Whitmer. All Biden has to do is win an election, and then he can stand down. No alternative is cracking Biden's numbers against Trump at any point throughout the past year. All this media hysteria does is reiterate how the left continuously eats itself. Over and over.
Fwiw, I'm in Australia, and the chef at my local café was parroting the tax lines about Labour. He's English, but hasn't lived in the UK for 20 years. So a sign of some message breakthrough.
I enjoy hearing Andrew Marr talk. All three panelists are bright, informed, and articulate. I'm an American, living in Albuquerque, New Mexico, in the southwest. I describe myself as a Hubert Humphrey liberal Democrat, though there are fewer and fewer people who know what that means. Anyway. Andrew Marr's comments about Biden are the clearest, most accurate, and forceful I've heard. I've loved what Joe Biden has done. The racial and gender makeup of his Cabinet and staff are testimony that he doesn't talk justice, he embodies it. And it's time for him to go. I'm 80 years old. Of course age isn't the only limitation that prevents my being President, but it is one of them.
Andrew, I always respect you as a broadcaster but please never disrespect the older generation by calling Biden a silly old fool. You will be there soon enough!
You would be well advised to do your research into the Front National on a rather deeper level before making sweeping statements about them and their intentions.
They are still saying if Labour win and talking about supermajority like its a thing. They also pushed the idea that Starmer would fall flat on his face and the Tories would be back in 5 years. If you find that lefty then it is very much a you thing.
@@kevinsmarts9953 Yes, but I listened to Times Radio quite regularly, and they are not Conservative leaning as I thought The Times traditionally was. They do not seem much different to Radio 4, which is not so surprising because they have some of the same presenters.
@@KevTheImpaler It owned by Murdoch and unlike the Times newspaper it hasn't jumped on the Starmer bandwagon. You are let down the Kev moniker, please try harder.
The US election is not until November. Pick a new likely-to-win candidate behind closed doors (Newsom please), Biden releases his delegates and hands the crown to the chosen one, and Democrats (and anyone else with an ounce of sense in them) buries Trump in a landslide vote against the convicted felon insurrectionist. Plenty of time for that.
As a American. As a democrat who leans center. Biden droping out would cause more chaos than anything else. You do not understand us if you think it’s that easy
Exactly. They don’t understand the presidential system. They are used to the parliamentary where you can change PM like you change underwear. Ask LBJ what good it did to step aside..
Spot on. US parties are structurally far less capable than UK parties to make and execute these sorts of decisions (think of the 1922 Committee), and incumbent parties that choose someone other than the president through a murky selection process tend not to win.
But surely he can't possibly win after that performance? I like Biden but he's no longer able to cut the mustard going forward. It's electoral suicide...
I cant believe these so called journalists are so surprised about biden in the debate.. i personally thought he was on form compared to what i have seen over the past couple of years.. fair play to the young lad for pointing it out before I'd finished
As a great man once said: 'America is a nation that can be defined in a single word: Asufutimaehaehfutbw'
It's covfefe now!
"We hold these truths to be self-evident: all men and women are created, by the, you know the, you know the thing."
Don't call yourself a great man. It's unbecoming.
@@TadgNokomis this one makes me laugh every time I hear it brilliant
Covfefe.
earlier I was listening to the explanations of the spokesman of the white house, he said that the next day in Carolina Biden said that he knows that he is not young anymore, he knows that he no longer speaks the way he used to speak, he knows that his mind is slower, then my question it is, the hell are you still running when the fate of the country is so complicated, because of him we will have a total leadership of trump and all his associates.
You people need to also look at Trump who himself has issues not far from Biden’s.
America has a choice between two old men. Both have issues.
One should not be president the other a self-serving malignant narcissist who must not be president.
Vote blue or we are screwed
@marietellez6021 yes vote blue 👍
"Hypocritical Ancient Fossilized Kettle Criticizes Pot"
The Times are still seething there's no improvement in the Tories polling. They've spent the last weeks talking about how horrible the election is for the Conservatives and absolutely zero time talking about how horrible the Conservatives have been.
Legacy media is on it's way dodo-wise. Don't lose any sleep over dying gammon.
@@MattBooth That would require self reflection and could piss off their subscribers. Cable news and newspapers are not in the business of informing the public, but keep subscribers and selling ads in this dying business.
and that is relevant to this video in what way?
@@briangasser973 EVERY organisation is in the business of achieving its goals. The only organisation I can think of which has the goal of meeting the criteria you imply is the BBC - which is an utter GEM in this world of propaganda.
@@MattBooth isn't the Times Murdoch owned?
Never mind America, what about the rest of us who rely on a rational US president globally.
there's your mistake
Trump is hardly rational.
@@itsme-nt2lj" there's your mistake " Why? the USA relies on a rational Europe too. Or do you want to divide and rule?
Или же вы хотите разделять и властвовать?
@macsmiffy2197 the US has never been rational where do you get that from? From Vietnam McCarthyism Iraq supporting Israel genocide etc. etc.
the catch with that is we were the democracy prototype. We're still stuck on the beta software because our system makes it too easy for those who hate modernity to block uploading the 1.0 gold master, when the Founders themselves anticipated a major update through a constitutional convention ever 20 to 30 years. Instead, we've never had one, not even after the Civil War when three major constitutional amendments were passed only for the Supreme Court to spend the next 70 years neutering the most important one. Our aspirations for freedom, open societies and self-determination are essential to the world and that's where America's status comes from, not from being a big boorish bully as the American Right seems to think, but our reality means the world can't count on it.
Labour are not centre left!! The left of the party are leaving in droves, centre maybe, cmon
Couldn't agree more, well said!
They spew the same propaganda here too.
Labour are radical Left and we REFORM are Far Right of them.
@@sabejreid2072 Laughable nonsense. Labour under Starmer are centrist, at best; and nowhere near "radical" left! 🤦🏻♂️
@@sabejreid2072 No Way! Name me a radical left Labour MP who is left & not now a independent. They are centre, most likely pushing to the right to deal with reform... same old crap to come I'm afraid.
If Biden stood aside, Harris or Newcombe become the choices. No way are the Americans more like to vote for either.
Newsom would trounce Trump.
@@ingrampowell9111 I hope you would be right, but I fear not.
Both would perform way better than Biden and would beat Trump handily whereas Biden is sure to lose to Trump.
Andrew Marr calling Biden a silly old fool is priceless.
I do wonder which of them has LESS mental capacity.
Hilarious that the Dems rant and rave about Trump being a selfish egotist while Biden's behaviour shows he's really no different.
He’s very different.
Bullshit!
1:45 - Take that and times it by 1000 and you get a small taste of how the native ethnic French population feel
...and the same for other European countries.
journalists think everyone thinks the same way they do
Biden exemplifies hubris.
@@SydneyMoo Biden is the subject of this video.
@@SydneyMoo I think you mean relevant.
The Democrats really must replace Biden, he's fragile now, how is that going to improve for him under the stress of holding the worlds highest office.
I thought that was a Far Right Conspiracy Theory? Biden is in great health the most successful President Ever.
It doesn't matter who the Dems put forward. They lied to the American people.
It s not the man who counts but his team and Biden has an excellent team at work. How can someone vote for a serial liar and convicted felon is beyond me. Democrats do not have the time to seriously launch a substitute to Biden. Voting blue all the way up down the ballot is the only way to preserve some sort of decency and democracy particularly after hearing the last Supreme Court ruling on president immunity.
Between fighting hard the former and standing strong on abortion and promoting Biden economic successes , democrats should be OK with Biden. After all his most recent speeches were fine his State of Union address was of a super great caliber. One bad evening does not disqualify the old man facing an extremely toxic individual such as Trump. Lastly the newly emerging rolling stone referring to project 2025 might have a disastrous effect on the Republicans and MAGA cult.
Trump has ADHD ,not top for a candidate who shouldn’t even be there in the first place due to his past bad deeds and conviction.
He been like that before he even entered office.
Any excellent discussion - particularly, about Reform. I fear Freddie is correct; this is just the beginning for Reform and I am sure that they are planning accordingly. Unless they get literally no seats, I think that they will shrug off any issues relating to this election and build both parliamentary, local and party infrastructure. If they get no seats, I think that they will reconsider how to build but build they will.
Are you old enough to remember 1997? The Tories were apparently doomed then too. Farage is a grifter, the last thing he wants is the PM's job, the salary isn't big enough.
@@miniflem1and he doesn’t like being held to account. He’s more snarky than Sunak
If the mainstream parties ignore their idealistic bubble living members and listen to the electorate then fix the problems they are concerned about (like mass immigration), there will be no need for Reform.
Farage and co never get much support but seems to influence the Tories (Brexit!) and push everyone to ignore the thieves in the city of London and blame the immigrants on boats for all their problems. Fascism pure and simple
As an American lifelong Democrat I can't agree more. I can't believe that Biden will not step down. That decision itself is enough to confirm that he doesn't have the requisite judgement required even now let alone as the years progress. It never made sense to run again. He will be responsible for what happens when Trump wins.
These people seem to resemble the French Royal Court just prior to France in the 1780's !
I’m a Democrat and agree that Biden should step down. I am 100% in for voting up and down the Democratic ballot. 💙🇺🇸💙 God Bless America 🇺🇸
I'm from the US he was not a great public servant he was a bureaucrat his whole life and lied a lot
LIES A LOT? IN COMPARISON TO TRUMP HE'S A SAINT, PLUS HE DID SO MUCH MORE FOR THE U.S. PEOPLE. TRUMP DIDN'T DO CRAP FOR ANY OF US UNLESS YOU ARE RICH.
Biden must not let his ego and memory of what he used to be, put trump in the whitehouse. Which is exactly what will happen if he doesn't step aside.
The game is over. Americans see that it is not left vs right, MAGA R’s or Progressive D’s. It is about a powerful group of plutocrats who invent narratives out of whole cloth. The same in UK.
@@SydneyMooNonsense. Russian collusion withbTrump & election interference brought about Trump 2016. Read the Senate Report vol. V. And cases against GOP operatives in swing States. (Targeted dicersion of votes).
Too late! This may be the end of left mainstream news and the DNC.
@SydneyMoo Bernie drank the Trump Derangement Kool-aid, and now Trump will be president again. That's irony.
Trump must win - in order to stabilize America and the West. Biden must be jailed.
Biden giving Ginsburg vibes.
Ginsburg was with it until the very end,.. Biden's heading to a place (intermittently) more like Dianne Feinstein (or Mitch McConnell)
More like Diane Fienstein. RBG was at least with it to the end.
@@briangasser973 But still managed to tarnish her legacy by clinging to her position for too long, overplaying her hand, and ending up with the exact opposite outcome from what she wanted because of her own ego.
The ol’ Vichy card. Talk about over reacting.
The question isn't really about Trump and Biden but is about why the US has ended up with 2 candidates that both in their own way have so little to offer American voters.
The deregulation of financial institutions and deindustrialization of the US economy was instigated by Nixon in the early 1970's purely to maximise the profits for the benefit of wealthiest political donors. The end result has been the decline in living standards for ordinary households across the US, who have now effectively given up on mainstream politics and are simply choosing the "angry option" that Trump is offering or the "anti-trump" option of Biden, but neither the Republicans or Democrats are offering any real structural changes to the Nixon model that continues to push more and more wealth, into the hands of fewer and fewer people..
Obama advised Biden not to run because of age concerns. Biden said he would be a one term president. He liked power too much.
The primary reason why the US is in turmoil, is due to mass-non-white immigration and, indeed, slavery.
Alas, Britain is also doomed because of mass-non-European immigration.
@@stephenhill545... but he chose the unelectable Harris as VP, purely to outflank the "disaster" of an actual left wing president.
Billionaire interests are the reason Biden is standing. The end of democracy is small beer to billionaires, as long as they operate beyond government control.
@@stephenhill545 You're still under the assumption Biden can make decisions on his own. You need to bin that mentality and understand he doesn't know whats going on anymore.
@@stephenhill545 He's reading teleprompters like Ron Burgundy. Wake up.
We have no choice but to support Biden if he refuses to step down. We cannot legally replace him. He has all the delegates. Biden would have to voluntarily step down and release the delegates which a lot of his aides and the party wanted him to do but they say Jill and Hunter and the Biden family got very angry and begged Joe not to step down, although he was willing to for the good of the country.
We don't "have" to support anyone. Someone who aspired to the Presidency isn't owed any votes- the candidate needs to earn votes. Biden is no longer a man who inspires confidence. Remember when people said we had no choice but to support Hillary? How did that work out? Voters have a nasty habit of not backing unappealing candidates.
Instructive that the Guardian calls Le Pen far right, and the New Statesman calls her hard right.
And I simply call the New Statesman "Far Hard Wrong".
Labour is now centre right so it's not that big a gulf
If Joe Biden was UK Prime Minister he would have been elected as an MP during the Parliament when Edward Heath was Prime Minister. Although, as he was elected but became a Senator rather than a Congressman, the equivalent might be more he became a Life Peer in the House of Lords during the time Edward Heath was Prime Minister. In 1984 President Reagan was asked in the Presidential Debate if he was too old to serve a 2nd term (he was 73), he made a famous joke saying he would not hold his rivals youth and inexperience against him. He won and was president until aged 77. Both Trump and Biden are older now then when President Reagan finished being President.
And Reagan had Alzheimer’s for his final two years in office.
I live in Menton, near Monaco, the local NF parties here and Nice talk about deporting non EU even those with work permits/ Brits like me if they are out of work for 6 months. 55% voted for the party in my town as they see immigrants trying to cross the border in nearby Ventimiglia.
The Ruth Bader Syndrome is strong in the US.
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Spot on.
What? - hanging on because you know what bastardry will follow on your retirement? I think they’re both fine examples of selflessness
It was a bad day….. we all have one now & then
The moment when this was potentially on the cards passed 2 or 3 days ago. There's no point agitating for it now, it is what it is.
Don't any of you know anything AT ALL about french politics???? The Premiere Tour has not reflected the Deuxième Tour result for more than half a century.
Why do you have different stages? Just vote already Im trying to understand your election but damn
Why no discussion about the possible impact of tactical voting on the Tory result in this week’s UK election?
At 4:15; It's not a question of vanity. It's a question of incumbency. We're not a parliamentary system; giving up incumbency is a huge, huge risk. Get Professor Allan Lichtman from American University on your show, now -- he'll explain it better than anyone else can, and he's the single best prognosticator of presidential election results we have. And Andrew Marr's suggestion that there's an opportunity for a clear break is dangerous; and Hannah Barnes's suggestion that race is not involved is naive. The only possible option at this point, with the delegates already committed, for a clean break is for Biden to resign the presidency immediately, installing Kamala Harris as president; a break from that pattern will trigger a major backlash among minority voters, particularly black women who are probably the most mobilized portion of the Democratic Party base. Biden and Harris, as president and vice president respectively, have the delegates and both the intraparty mandate and the national mandate ; nobody else does.
I think your general perspective is spot on but you’re a bit naive about the alienation of black women. Spend 10 minutes listening to black political radio and you’ll find that, as a topic of discussion, Kamala Harris inspires yawns or head-shaking. Black voters want competent leaders, not figureheads.
@@jacqueline7389 fair enough, but those observations of Harris are a generality, not a specific presidential succession question, and they haven't yet tried or even discussed shortcircuiting the line of succession to avoid her. Caution is warranted when considering how the public will react to an unforeseen situation.
@@danielbliss1988 Caution is warranted indeed. The cautious among us will note that Ms Harris's approval ratings are now, and indeed have generally been, abysmal. It doesn't seem a huge step up to replace a senile standard-bearer with one who is generally regarded as light-weight non-entity. There are perhaps, in the entire USA, maybe three voters who would have otherwise voted for Trump who will say "hang on a second, there's a black lady running!" and change their vote.
Stunned that the US doesn't have a bigger talent pool. Hopefully the people pick the party they want and hopefully Biden can step aside after the election
That's not exactly democracy in action, is it?
If the Labour government don't tax and spend, we shall follow America and France, mark my words.
No disrepect to my man Andrew but those were some fresh 🧖 points, Freddie
Centrists will never understand their role in facilitating the rise of the far right. It's so sad to see so little introspection.
They all prefer fascism to socialism
I am not sure how one defines "far right."
The working definition seems to be someone who disagrees with the ideas of the leftists who run the media, universities, corporations and government bureaucracies.
Extremists on both sides facilitate each other. They turn politics into a war of implacable opposites, until eventually it actually becomes one.
Not centrists, neocons. Social inequality is the key driver of the disillusionment which leads to fascism.
Can you qualify your point? How have they facilitated the far right?
Love these ones with Andrew Marr.
Who built up the "silly old fool"?
Jill and Hunter, apparently.
I think Freddie Haywards haircut looks good
The Republicans and Democrats need to agree to get rid of both their candidates and find new ones.Both are terrible options.
The Democrats do, the republicans have a god candidate
@@Cruzeoc101Both candidates are too advanced in age. Both confused
@Channel567-7 only 1 is seriously confused, the other is Trump
@@Cruzeoc101 only 1 is seriously criminal, the other is Biden
As always insightful, but the word "should" is a little problematic form me.....should "should" be reserved for the US voting public? I wouldn't much like a Russian, Iranian, or American telling me who I "should" vote for, for example. That said, Trump should sort his hair out.
This American election is THE world issue, the outcome of which has the potential for truly disastrous consequences.
Potential? You can almost guarantee, whoever wins.
It's gonna be a disaster no matter who wins.
Yes, if Biden wins, I agree with you.
Stop beinbg dramatic. Trump was in power for 4 years and nothing really happened.
@@Withnail1969 Great comment, great film.
Trump 2024! All the leftist BS won’t stop us from electing the best president USA has had in 50 years. Just compare what the world was like up to January 2020.
He was never a great statesman.
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What do you mean by "Getting the economy (US) back on track.' If Biden's debate was a surprise for you, perhaps you are more out of touch with other things in America. Financially, Americans are hurting!
Its scary that old fool is the finger on the worlds biggest nuclear arsenal button
And Putin another risk
Much scarier: the orange one .... who keeps the codes hidden in his closet at Mar-A-Pozza.
Most Americans would vote for a bowl of rice pudding rather than Trump. A bowl of rice pudding would be better. Problem is that most Americans voting against Trump won’t be sufficient this time around.
But whose the freak Murdoc or Starmer?
Who’s ! That’s short for who is ?
No one speaks English better than the English. Americans are mostly well down the scale of real fluency. Both Biden and Trump must seem awful to you. Imagine what Queen Elizabeth would have felt after watching that debate. We know she disliked Trump. If only she could have a word now with Biden! He doesn’t seem to listen to the most intelligent political strategists and advisors, but seems to feel he is the only one who can beat Trump.
It's The End Of The World As We Know It.....
God I hope and pray - we can survive.
4:28 She doesn't seem to know Biden very well (but that's what she believes). I would have enjoyed hearing her version of his stepping down graciously for the good of the country (once again - not who he is). His opponent didn’t have the globe on the precipice of WWIII, yet this gentleman is freaking out at the idea of him being back in office?
I'm with Freddie on reform. As un-PC as it may be but what some of the reform candidates say is what you hear in red wall working class areas and as long back as Disraeli and Gladstone people have always voted for someone that they can see themselves having a pint down the pub with which is where Nigel reins supreme.
Faŕage is very patriotic, which is reassuring. He voices what many, many people are secretly thinking, but are too scared to say themselves.
Who was supposed to have called Biden a 'Silly old fool' as per the strapline for this interview? Whoever it was then that is incredibly rude and if one of the two guests, thoroughly beneath them! Pity some time wasn't spent discussing the truely appalling, totally inappropriate, morally bankrupt, dictatorial Trump!
I’m a Democrat. Biden needs to step down or we’ll be stuck with Trump!
Need to give them time to figure out a way to bench Kamala.
Agreed
Yeah, low gas prices and a higher standard of living is going to be hell for you.
Oh the horror 😂
Trump-haters are everywhere, without reason other than that he is unlikeable. He had a great record as President, despite the hostility of the Press, etc. With some support in the Congress, he could have been a great President. The LEFT only wanted to destroy everything he tried, even if it was right. I don't like him either, but he got things done. After years of failure by the NYC govt, Trump completed the ice skating rink at 30 Rock in less than a year. QED.
And by the way, I am a registered Democrat. I have voted in every election since Johnson/Goldwater. I have only voted wrong twice: Nixon & Carter.
Go on. Laugh at people in old people’s homes. Wonderful - I’m sure they’re all having such a jolly good time that they’ll find your joke hilarious Freddie. Shame on you!
It's a lack of self awareness and insight that's symptomatic of his declining capacity
Could be said about both Biden and Trump 🤷♂️
Maybe also a team around him not being honest…
If Penny Modern does keep her seat I will guarantee you now she'll be in the run off for James cleverly for the leader of the Conservative Party however this time the grass root members will have a vote and Penelope Will Ace that
Expect James Clevelly if he retains his seat To say at his Victory speech It's time for a change And will literally kick start his leadership campaign there and then similar to when Starmer Kickstarted his leadership campaign at his acceptance speech in 2019
You can also expect the same old faces to put their hats into the ring For the leadership race knowing full well they will lose and helping they will get a shadow Ministerial job out of it,
4:50 I don't know whether he's mentally competent enough to think through that kind of logic. It's sad.
3:21 ‘It was like CCTV from an old people’s home’ - Poor taste joke. You’ll end up old yourself just like the rest of us - just you can’t imagine it as you’re so young - Hopefully by then people will have learnt not to write-off all old people and speak of them with smug derision as you do here.
I know this is popular at the moment, especially in the media, but it's a stupid idea. He should have stepped away before the primary. The chaos this would cause now would be equally as risky, if not moreso. None of the likely replacements poll well against Trump either. "Generic democrat" polls well, but individual Dems do not.
If they've already lost, it doesn't really matter in the American system. There's one of two choices for the presidency, they might as well roll the dice and hope.
@@sammyskulll2 If your view is that myopic, maybe. But there's more at stake.
Money and relationships with power brokers in key districts across the country, just to start. Down ballot races and initiatives. Swing states. Just to name a few. The Senate is going to be especially hairy this time around.
If Joe had picked someone more attractive to your average voter to be VP this might be a conversation worth having, at least then the transition would be more natural.
But she polls worse than he does.
Why are British broadcasters opining on domestic US politics? While everyone is entitled to an opinion, that doesn't mean its's worth listening to.
When the UK can boast the highest quality of life, lowest poverty, lowest corruption, greatest social mobility and most democratic, fairest, least racist & least misoynistic society may be then it can preach to other nations, but until then, perhaps it should get its own house in order first. PS. I'm not a US citizen.
I would vote for Stormy Daniels over Trump, but Biden is no longer fit for purpose. The impression most Americans got was frightening . Only 28% of those polled thought he should stand.
Trump 2024🎉🎉🎉
Most Americans already knew... we've been labelled conspiracy theorists, and liars since 2020... The Elites and the corrupt milked our country for the last 4 years, and every alphabet media mogul let them. The border is a mess, DEI is a racist abomination, big government is destroying our nation and Trump DOES INDEED love his country... Join the Trump train.... it cannot do anymore harm that what The Biden Administration has done already...
Was Biden at any time in the past 50 years fit to be POTUS ?
@@hamiltonski er... 🤔 No
Are you suggesting Trump EVER was fit for purpose????
Why are British broadcasters opining on domestic US politics? While everyone is entitled to an opinion, that doesn't mean its's worth listening to.
When the UK can boast the highest quality of life, lowest poverty, lowest corruption, greatest social mobility and most democratic, fairest, least racist & least misoynistic society may be then it can preach to other nations, but until then, perhaps it should get its own house in order first. PS. I'm not a US citizen.
An introduction to French elections. Elections are in two "tours" the first is open to any parties or independents. To win outright in the first tour a party must gain 51% of all the votes cast "and" 25% of the entire electorate. This prevents someone profiting from a low turnout. In the second tour, only the top two are allowed to present in each constituency. There can be a certain amount of coalitions formed and parties joined. The winning candidates can then if they have a majority take power or lesser parties can again form a coalition. Bare in mind that this has no effect on the President, he remains until the end of his tenier. The President then choses ministers of state including Prime Minister. It is entirely normal for people to make protest votes in the first tour, and obviously supporters of minority groups will gravitate to their closest candidate ideologically in the second tour. Paradoxically a good result in the first tour ça be detrimental to that party in the second. Imagine a second Brexit vote after people had been startled by the initial result.... Et maintenant, on verra !!!
Le Pen and her da before her did okay in round one of the presidential but not in the second round.
Some factual mistakes here. You are thinking of the presidential election when you say that only the top two candidates move on to second round.
In Parliamentary election, anyone above 12.5% of "registered voters" can compete in the second round.
So you could have two, three, and sometimes even four candidates on the second round. Hence a very tactical decision: should you remove yourself from the ballots if your presence as the third candidate is likely to facilitate the far right to win the seat?
Also the president doesn't choose the Ministers. He chooses the Prime Minister, normally from the party who got the most seats. It is then up to this Prime Minister to create his or her cabinet of Ministers.
@@SeaUrchinFilms So then what does winning the first round get you? Is the first round just to weed out the irrelivant candidates?
@@GamerX13X - yes it's basically to narrow down the choices to the key candidates. This process has long been an obstacle for the RN (Far Right), as all the other parties would suggest voting against the RN. It represented a "plafond de verre" (glass ceiling) that limited their success, but this is no longer working.
Andrew Parker is an ACTOR... He has been totally exposed by his own acting page where he speaks in a "Rough voice"
It is not a lot of Reform candidates. Conservative and Labour have both lost candidates!
National interest is the reason that some people in France have voted for Le Pen. Probably she's right that too.much immigration is a problem and that ex tremists should either be deported or jailed. The question is, why the centrist/left doesn't think the same, why they don't act in the best interests of their country. Same as uk, and rest of Europe
Why anti Trump?
However people behave/ in government, to use words like sillily old fool or watching cctv in an old peoples home says so much about the non compassion of certain people.
One will always be measured by the yard stick one’s uses against others.
Reform UK is new movement. But they will continue to grow.
Not once the inevitable criminal enquiry gets underway it won't.
Not new, simply re-packaged neo Fascists.
Nothing could be more obnoxious than 3 snooty English commentators making uninformed and inaccurate conclusions about the state of American politics.
So In short if Labour don’t cure the cost of living, immigration and the NHS within two years the public will move towards reform uk, if that’s the case then this country is doomed to revisit the last 14 years again
Not if reform get in
Worse.
Labour and the Conservatives have the same policies. Electing Labour is a continuation, however the one thing the public have the power to do is reject the conservatives.
Reform will likely be made illegal under Labour so they won’t take power regardless of public feeling or votes.
@@randomclick2826 lol
Untrue, they’re the only party who will bring any good change to the country.
What is Andrew Marr saying Democrats find younger man. It is Israel who decides and appoints who is president.
Fundamental misreading of Macron: his ‘bluff’ was not against the right and RN but it was a call for the left to join the center-right.
The NFN is where it failed - not with the right.
IMPEACH AND FIRE MERRICK GARLAND AND ALLEJANDRO MAJORKUS Haa haaa haaa immediateley.....
I’m praying for Trump and Farage, let’s hope that they get into power.
Why ? what does either one of them offer to you ?
Didn't Biden promise to run for only one term? Somebody remind him. Please. We don't need another president who puts ego over country.
As an American, I am absolutely moving to Great Britain to enjoy a Starmer Government at the earliest availability.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 You come and live in my home, and i will come and live in yours! See who makes the biggest mistake...YOU!!
Welcome but our infrastructure is almost beyond hope. Starmer has a long road. Don’t leave before you vote blue
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He's like your Democrats.
Before you move, this expat advises you to check out Jonathan Pie’s recap of the last 14 years in the UK. A recovery will take time to say the least.
New Statesman wise after the event. We’ve known about Biden and the Democrat’s incompetence for years.
Biden won't step aside though, will he? RIP USA.
he cant even step forwards never mind sideways
@@SimonLloydGuitarYour limited media sources are showing. Sad.
It's strange how nobody seems to consider the realistic implications of Biden stepping down. If he did step down, the only person who would fill the vacancy is Harris, who people hate more than Biden.
It would also speak volumes for the new candidate that they weren't good enough to replace a shuffling corpse at any point in the primary. The biggest competitor to Biden in the primary was 'non committal' after all. Not Newsom. Not Whitmer.
All Biden has to do is win an election, and then he can stand down. No alternative is cracking Biden's numbers against Trump at any point throughout the past year.
All this media hysteria does is reiterate how the left continuously eats itself. Over and over.
5:41 Newsom would “hammer Trump”?! That snake? Silly old man!
Fwiw, I'm in Australia, and the chef at my local café was parroting the tax lines about Labour. He's English, but hasn't lived in the UK for 20 years. So a sign of some message breakthrough.
I enjoy hearing Andrew Marr talk. All three panelists are bright, informed, and articulate. I'm an American, living in Albuquerque, New Mexico, in the southwest. I describe myself as a Hubert Humphrey liberal Democrat, though there are fewer and fewer people who know what that means. Anyway. Andrew Marr's comments about Biden are the clearest, most accurate, and forceful I've heard. I've loved what Joe Biden has done. The racial and gender makeup of his Cabinet and staff are testimony that he doesn't talk justice, he embodies it. And it's time for him to go. I'm 80 years old. Of course age isn't the only limitation that prevents my being President, but it is one of them.
Do you think Trump can hold it together for a few more months ? He seems to be failing faster himself. And does it matter ?
Andrew, I always respect you as a broadcaster but please never disrespect the older generation by calling Biden a silly old fool. You will be there soon enough!
That's exactly what he is, if he continues to run.
You would be well advised to do your research into the Front National on a rather deeper level before making sweeping statements about them and their intentions.
Biden surely needs to step down he is so fragile.
Seldom do you see such a shallow understanding of US politics, or one so sorely lacking in insight.
Said the nation silly enough to vote for Farage and Brexit.
The moments in which the conversation doesn't include Andrew Marr are a waste of time. The first 2 minutes were a waste of time.
Does not surprise me The Times backs Labour. Times Radio is as lefty as Radio 4.
They are still saying if Labour win and talking about supermajority like its a thing. They also pushed the idea that Starmer would fall flat on his face and the Tories would be back in 5 years. If you find that lefty then it is very much a you thing.
@@kevinsmarts9953 Yes, but I listened to Times Radio quite regularly, and they are not Conservative leaning as I thought The Times traditionally was. They do not seem much different to Radio 4, which is not so surprising because they have some of the same presenters.
@@KevTheImpaler It owned by Murdoch and unlike the Times newspaper it hasn't jumped on the Starmer bandwagon. You are let down the Kev moniker, please try harder.
@kevinsmarts9953 alright, I don't read The Times. I listen to Times Radio and that is metropolitan centre left.
@@KevTheImpaler Times Radio is the radio station of the Times. They are the same thing.
Ye ye, keep avoiding the term DEMENTIA and hope to make sense...
Biden "a great public servant!" Really?
Great at lining his pockets
Too late now, no point in changing horses midstream, you will fall off your horse and drown.
The US election is not until November. Pick a new likely-to-win candidate behind closed doors (Newsom please), Biden releases his delegates and hands the crown to the chosen one, and Democrats (and anyone else with an ounce of sense in them) buries Trump in a landslide vote against the convicted felon insurrectionist. Plenty of time for that.
As a American.
As a democrat who leans center.
Biden droping out would cause more chaos than anything else. You do not understand us if you think it’s that easy
Exactly. They don’t understand the presidential system. They are used to the parliamentary where you can change PM like you change underwear.
Ask LBJ what good it did to step aside..
Spot on. US parties are structurally far less capable than UK parties to make and execute these sorts of decisions (think of the 1922 Committee), and incumbent parties that choose someone other than the president through a murky selection process tend not to win.
But surely he can't possibly win after that performance? I like Biden but he's no longer able to cut the mustard going forward. It's electoral suicide...
It would be easy. The fallout would take management but it is completely possible and necessary.
@@steviepenn23 the fallout would take “management” come on… management. It’s the Democratic Party nothing is ever that simple
Ha !! I've heard American's say the same thing, as least we don't have it as bad as the UK !!
I cant believe these so called journalists are so surprised about biden in the debate.. i personally thought he was on form compared to what i have seen over the past couple of years.. fair play to the young lad for pointing it out before I'd finished
its hilarious and even funnier if Biden continues, how will the liberal media manage to keep the lie going til November now?
#AJAB
Wow... that is very disrespectful
UK imigration - simple no indefinate stay and re patriation at 60 works everywhere else afterall.
How many English expats would you like us to kick out of Ireland? Oh, and Spain?
If you do that, other countries will do it for Brits abroad. You will have hundreds of thousands of British pensioners coming back to the UK.
Literacy levels that match the opinion
@@vercoda9997 There is about half a million Brits in Ireland, Spain etc. There's easily that coming to the UK *every year* .
@@TranquiloTrevThere is about half a million Brits in Ireland, Spain etc. There's easily that coming to the UK every year.
Farage - 5 Seats and we'll be on our way for him to be PM in 2029
Id rather a few Tories win their seats than Reform start building a platform. And i fucking hate the Tories.