Conspiracies are on the rise because people can see the world collapsing around them, but do not have the language to explain why. My conspiracy is that these conspiracies do a suspiciously fantastic job of shifting blame from those actually causing the collapse.
I’d argue that conspiracy theories are also on the rise because they usually have a grain of truth to them. If mainstream sources just tell people _“Move along, nothing to see here.”_ they may end up going down a rabbit-hole of more fantastical explanations.
But yes, I tend to agree with your meta-conspiracy-theory. They’re a suspiciously effective distraction. Like if I were bribing politicians. It might be useful to spread rumours that I’m also a lizard-man who eats babies. In order to try and associate my critics with crazy people.
Both comments hit the nail on the head. Working people worldwide have seen a collapse is living standards and its easier to blame everything on some evil force.
Think that is an excellent point! Anglo-american big bank / big tech capitalist democracy is due for a collapse, and the process has been there for everyone to see for decades, especially since the Great Recession in 2007/2008.
@@haakontangvald-pedersen8374 I doubt big tech will collapse - it appears most of them are hoping democracy/ true capitalism collapses. This would translate into less regulation and sky high profits as they could monopolise further and make us more addictied than we already are to thier algorithms (sound a bit conspiratorial myself 😂🫣)
Regarding solutions: I think the trick is to fact-check your own side more. If you’re honest when you and your peers are wrong, that will foster trust. But if you use fact-checking selectively as a political tactic, it quickly turns into a _Boy Who Cried Wolf_ scenario.
Are you anticipating that spontaneous outbreaks of virtuous unilateral self-examination will lead to a global pandemic of truth-telling and voluntary accountability, an end to mental illness, and ultimately the salvation of humanity? I'm just trying to imagine how it would go?
@@Ozymandi_as I wouldn't go that far, no! But if most journalists, commentators, and politicians prioritized truth above partisan narrative, then I think politics and media would be a great deal healthier. And public discourse would be less polarized and more constructive.
@@andybrice2711 I agree. A similar period of scapegoating and believing racist conspiracy theories in Germany in the 1930s resulted in the Holocaust, WW2 and Germany being defeated. As a result, for 80 years the Germans practiced "virtuous unilateral self-examination" to make sure they didn't fall into the same rabbit-hole. People are calling this the "post truth era" in America. We will recover, and regard this as a crazy period. I just hope it happens before we elect a dictator and go the same route as Germany.
I've long believed the Internet is going to have a similar impact on our society as the printing press had on late medieval society. What initially appeared to be a fabulous invention allowing dissemination of knowledge and information to the masses suddenly becoming a threat to the status quo. My only hope is that while my children / grandchildren etc are going to live through a modern day reformation, we have advanced enough to avoid the worst excesses of what has now become known as the; European wars of religion, 1500 & 1700. However, recent UK/EU legislation to crackdown on the freedom of information on the Internet suggests we're following a similar path to the one our ancestors did. Information once again being too; challenging to interpret to those who haven't been educated correctly to understand its context properly.
Taking 4chan as serious is the first mistake. Conspiracies are on the rise because of the thought process that the people in charge can't be this dumb for this long by accident
The issue is that the higher ups protect friends. A certain financier had a global network of some of the world’s most powerful people. Bill got on numerous flights with the financier, ironically there are photos showing a certain a republican presidential nominee partying with said financier. Qanon liken the nominee as a hero 🤔
It’s easy to dismiss all this as sheer nonsense which anyone with more sense than a half wit ought to be able to immediately dismiss :-) and that’s my first response cos I was lucky enough to have two advantages; first I had a good education and second I was born a very very long time before the internet and when ‘computers, were card driven slow machines. See what I mean….I learnt about the world when it was distanced from me by the radio, newspapers and the knowledge of a generation who thought telephones were a new invention! People these days have no distance from an ocean of truths, lies; information and misinformation….so it’s incumbent of me to not rant at how dumb folk are…but patiently to teach folk to question rather than just believe something cos they saw it written down somewhere. I’m glad sometimes I’m 76 :-)
Absolutely agree! I came from that era too. It is unfair to just blame users for being unable to sort through the huge flood of misinformation and divine which is truth and which is lies. People are up against platforms run by AI-like algorithms with huge databases focused on our brainstems, expertly feeding us lies and conspiracies that inflame our worst prejudices, telling us what we want to hear, keeping us ignorant in filter bubbles. We need responsible regulation of the Silicon Valley monopolies that are causing all this
America is re-shoring it's manufacturing, some from far east also into Mexico. It will get huge growth, Investments, wages growth and inflation and will remain on top in the world.
Conspiracies are on the rise because people can see the world collapsing around them, but do not have the language to explain why. My conspiracy is that these conspiracies do a suspiciously fantastic job of shifting blame from those actually causing the collapse.
I’d argue that conspiracy theories are also on the rise because they usually have a grain of truth to them. If mainstream sources just tell people _“Move along, nothing to see here.”_ they may end up going down a rabbit-hole of more fantastical explanations.
But yes, I tend to agree with your meta-conspiracy-theory. They’re a suspiciously effective distraction.
Like if I were bribing politicians. It might be useful to spread rumours that I’m also a lizard-man who eats babies. In order to try and associate my critics with crazy people.
Both comments hit the nail on the head. Working people worldwide have seen a collapse is living standards and its easier to blame everything on some evil force.
Think that is an excellent point! Anglo-american big bank / big tech capitalist democracy is due for a collapse, and the process has been there for everyone to see for decades, especially since the Great Recession in 2007/2008.
@@haakontangvald-pedersen8374 I doubt big tech will collapse - it appears most of them are hoping democracy/ true capitalism collapses. This would translate into less regulation and sky high profits as they could monopolise further and make us more addictied than we already are to thier algorithms (sound a bit conspiratorial myself 😂🫣)
'Don't confuse me with the facts......my mind is made up.'
"Fact checking doesn't work (to change minds)." A true sign of cultish behaviour.
Regarding solutions: I think the trick is to fact-check your own side more. If you’re honest when you and your peers are wrong, that will foster trust.
But if you use fact-checking selectively as a political tactic, it quickly turns into a _Boy Who Cried Wolf_ scenario.
Are you anticipating that spontaneous outbreaks of virtuous unilateral self-examination will lead to a global pandemic of truth-telling and voluntary accountability, an end to mental illness, and ultimately the salvation of humanity? I'm just trying to imagine how it would go?
@@Ozymandi_as I wouldn't go that far, no! But if most journalists, commentators, and politicians prioritized truth above partisan narrative, then I think politics and media would be a great deal healthier. And public discourse would be less polarized and more constructive.
@@andybrice2711 I agree. A similar period of scapegoating and believing racist conspiracy theories in Germany in the 1930s resulted in the Holocaust, WW2 and Germany being defeated. As a result, for 80 years the Germans practiced "virtuous unilateral self-examination" to make sure they didn't fall into the same rabbit-hole. People are calling this the "post truth era" in America. We will recover, and regard this as a crazy period. I just hope it happens before we elect a dictator and go the same route as Germany.
My favorite fact is that the only predictor of belief in one conspiracy theory is the belief in another conspiracy theory.
Conspiracies aka Ignorance...
Take away but not said as such: Something approaches akin in scale and scope recalling the resulting effect left by the wake of the French Revolution.
I've long believed the Internet is going to have a similar impact on our society as the printing press had on late medieval society. What initially appeared to be a fabulous invention allowing dissemination of knowledge and information to the masses suddenly becoming a threat to the status quo.
My only hope is that while my children / grandchildren etc are going to live through a modern day reformation, we have advanced enough to avoid the worst excesses of what has now become known as the; European wars of religion, 1500 & 1700.
However, recent UK/EU legislation to crackdown on the freedom of information on the Internet suggests we're following a similar path to the one our ancestors did.
Information once again being too; challenging to interpret to those who haven't been educated correctly to understand its context properly.
The guest even does the “conspiracy guy” voice when explaining each story 😂
He’s not speaking Russian, what are you on about
The podcast is brilliant and would highly recommend a listen if you’ve not done so already.
Taking 4chan as serious is the first mistake. Conspiracies are on the rise because of the thought process that the people in charge can't be this dumb for this long by accident
The storm was when they stormed the capitol! Ask i heard for weeks leading up to jan 6 was, a storm is coming
Well this was a joyful mini podcast!
I don't know if this current title is the one you meant to upload, guys.
I had to read the title 10 times to make sense of it 😂 I kept reading "Trump" (Capital T).
The good was filtered out for years, meanwhile the crap was promoted on top. None of these conspiracy would work if no rich clown paid it.
Why can’t the NS spell conspiracies? We should be told.
The issue is that the higher ups protect friends. A certain financier had a global network of some of the world’s most powerful people.
Bill got on numerous flights with the financier, ironically there are photos showing a certain a republican presidential nominee partying with said financier. Qanon liken the nominee as a hero 🤔
its not like there is just one rabbit hole......there are a lot of rabbits
Yup. It will
That was really interesting! Thanks
Why the lack of epstien being mentioned in all this?
Madness with a capital m.
Shouldn’t you make it an M?
@@justjackman i considered it, but decided to be a bit lazy. My bad!
I mean, have you seen americans, anything is possible.
Britain isn't much better.
Please send links to the author and book.
Oh dear...
SEMAPHORE ALERT !!! 😖
It’s easy to dismiss all this as sheer nonsense which anyone with more sense than a half wit ought to be able to immediately dismiss :-) and that’s my first response cos I was lucky enough to have two advantages; first I had a good education and second I was born a very very long time before the internet and when ‘computers, were card driven slow machines. See what I mean….I learnt about the world when it was distanced from me by the radio, newspapers and the knowledge of a generation who thought telephones were a new invention!
People these days have no distance from an ocean of truths, lies; information and misinformation….so it’s incumbent of me to not rant at how dumb folk are…but patiently to teach folk to question rather than just believe something cos they saw it written down somewhere.
I’m glad sometimes I’m 76 :-)
Absolutely agree! I came from that era too. It is unfair to just blame users for being unable to sort through the huge flood of misinformation and divine which is truth and which is lies. People are up against platforms run by AI-like algorithms with huge databases focused on our brainstems, expertly feeding us lies and conspiracies that inflame our worst prejudices, telling us what we want to hear, keeping us ignorant in filter bubbles. We need responsible regulation of the Silicon Valley monopolies that are causing all this
America is re-shoring it's manufacturing, some from far east also into Mexico. It will get huge growth, Investments, wages growth and inflation and will remain on top in the world.
Amazing to finally put a face to the voice behind the coming storm
The real question in all this is WHO TOLD GABRIEL HE SHOULD HAVE A PONYTAIL!!!??. GET RID OF IT IMMEDIATELY!!
Counterpoint: Gabriel, your ponytail isn’t long enough yet. Keep going!
Counterpoint: Mind your own business?
Now do the hunter biden laptop
@@idcharles3739 Err… They spoke about precisely that scandal in this video.
@@andybrice2711 thanks. I didn't get that far. Didn't seem very balanced
@@idcharles3739 Yeah, it seemed very biased for the first half. But then they also spoke about when conspiracy theories turn out to be true.
Wasn't balanced except how the second half balanced out the first half.....