The WORST Tornado Shelter
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- Of all of the places to take shelter in a tornado, there are none that are worse than mobile home. In this video, we dive into the dangers of why mobile homes can be lethal in tornadoes, the alarming statistics, how this became a problem, and what can be done to keep yourself safe if you live in mobile home in a tornado hot spot.
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Another great production! Awesome work researching the content and assembling the visuals. Keep 'em coming!
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these are SO WELL DONE. I had the pleasure of speaking with the Perryton veterinarian who generously donated his time to help all the animals with surgery. Such a wonderful man who genuinely loves his job and community. I'll never forget those people
Hi Carly, big fan of your content. I am also a big fan of June First channel.
@@PookielovesvacuumsI followed June 1st because of Carly! So glad she recommended them.
Y'all are great TH-camrs.
I lived in a mobile home for 12 years in Iowa. At the time, it was the only community within 50 miles with an on-site tornado shelter for residents. This is a very concerning problem, IMO.I used to set my weather radio for 2 counties west and 2 SW. This enabled me to receive warnimgs before my own location so that I KNEW if bad weather was headed my way. I had time to make sure i was dressed right and could crate my pets in advance. Nothing is perfect but it was the best you can do, really.
That's a good practice to have. Glad to hear you were on top of it!
I live in a camper in a very rural area. Back in December I heard a tornado touch down a little over a mile to my southeast at 2 am. I knew what I was hearing and had my handheld radio with flashlight and NOAA channels on. It was a full two minutes before they issued the warning. There was very bad lightning hitting all around me and the only place I had to take shelter was either inside a large iron drainage pipe across my driveway or the very deep drainage ditch it flows into with flood water in it. I have no car so there`s nothing I can do here. The tornado touched down in a swampy area by the lake nearby and I knew it probably wasn`t coming towards me. If the sound had been to my southwest I would have panicked.
Back in June my weather radio told me at 3 am to take cover...80 mph winds were coming. THAT was scary! I`m in a low area between hills so winds were only about 50-60 mph here but power was out until 10 pm the next night. We were lucky here because some had no power for days. That day was also the FIRST heat emergency here in central Louisiana but thanks to my hurricane preps I ran my tiny air conditioner from a few solar panels and a 12v 300ah LiFeP04 battery with inverter and kept my freezer on with 700w portable power stations and everything else with cheap smaller ones. I`ve had to use this stuff 5 or 6 times since...three times in August with temps between 106-113. If I hear thunder the power fails because of the hurricane damage to our grid in 2020.
It should be fucking illegal for any trailer park or apartment complex managers in Tornado Alley to not have an on-site tornado shelter.
That sounds like a great plan, very well thought out.
@@alexhennigh5242If we mandated such a thing, people might have fewer mobile home parks and apartment complexes to live in.
I live in tennessee and just so happen to live in a mobile home. This is all I (and many others in this area) can afford so I try to make the best of it. Earlier this year, I found myself right in the path of a tornado that was cutting through Woodbury headed right for smithville and making a B line for my home. Living in the middle of nowhere Tennessee where they tell you not to whistle at night has its perks-no neighbors-but also it’s draw backs-no neighbors…Luckily it was weak, my home is double tied and braced with in ground ties, and the storm didn’t track far but it was a 10/10 on the sphincter scale…
The sphincter scale is something I'm absolutely going to use from now on LMAOOOO
But that aside really glad to hear you were ok. I live in Nebraska, also in a mobile home. Only gotten hit with what was likely only an F0, MAYBE F1 so far, thank goodness. But every year around that time, nothing is guaranteed.
I knew that trailers were bad but, the statistics you posted were frightening! Thank you for the edication.
As someone who is born and raised in north Alabama, and lived in a trailer home growing up... There is NOWHERE near enough shelters available. Many of our shelters here are very low capacity, and considering many of the storms occur over night... people dont go to them. My local area only has a few churches that open, and the closest public tornado shelter is almost 30 minutes away and only has a capacity of 100. After 2011, huge grants were given out to counties/cities to add more public shelters, but my local area decided to give out tax credits to offset the cost of building a personal shelter... which does nothing for those who cannot afford the cost of building a shelter.
Adding insult to injury, most trailers/mobile homes are not on land owned by the home owner, such as in trailer parks and almost universally dont have a garage. So building a personal shelter is not possible.
It's like this in Texas too. You'd think that places with frequent severe weather would have excellent shelters in place, but nope. We just handle the chance we could randomly die any rainy day without a single care.
Seriously, I live in Florida and we don't have tornado shelters. However when we do have a tornado warning I get my dogs into my car and drive in the opposite direction, because that's my only option. I live in a rural area and there isn't anything but a gas station and dollar general nearby. Hurricanes provide a long warnings, but I'm not taking a chance with tornadoes. Florida has more than people think.
Most important...
DO NOT WAIT for the warning!
If weather radar shows a nasty storm heading your way... go ahead and get to a better shelter!
Even storms that the NWS won't issue a tornado warning for, are capable of screwing up a mobile home around its residents.
If you wait on a warning to be issued... you may already be out of time to get to better shelter... especially if the weather's already getting inclement.
That is very good advice.
"Why do tornadoes always go after mobile home parks?" "Because they know a real house will fight back."
I live in a trailer home. I used to chase. Thanks to that I am pretty good about knowing when I don’t want to be around. An EF3 touched down near us last August and tracked due Southeast at our house. Before the sirens even went off I had our 7 month old, 17 year old cat and my husband in the car and we were booking it. I told my husband where to go, refreshing radar while I had a down comforter and pillows covering our baby’s seat in case we got hit by hail and had glass. Our closest shelter is the fire station, but it is southeast on the same rough track, so we headed towards the local rest area, 5 mins away, due south, and since the weather was still decent as we approached it, kept running til we hit my parents’ house to the southwest 15 mins away. As we ran into their house we started getting golfball sized hail. The tornado would have been at our house in 6 mins from when we left if it had continued its track. Our neighbours would have had 2 mins of warning. We had 20mins to pack and get out because I had radar up and could go further away safely. I have a basic EDC go bag, but during tornado season I keep a spare in the car and another at my parents’ so we can get out with nothing if we really have to. If I think a day will be particularly bad, we just straight up hang out at their house all day.
We ended up being fine and our house was too, but it was a bit scary. Never wanted a chase situation with my kid in the car, but it turned out ok.
The part about zone 1 and the fact their building standards were the lowest in the country really surprised me. I had to go back and rewatch that portion of the video. Your explanation really makes sense though as it seems they have to build something that fits the market and economy there. It shows how much work is still needed in the poorest areas of the US.
I live in an area that gets lower scale EF tornadoes infrequently. But I do live in a mobile home. There's not really anything close by that would work as a suitable shelter in my case. I think people in my area are complacent and unafraid of warnings. As @carlyannawx talks about frequently in her videos, the sociology of warnings in areas like mine is something to be researched and understood better.
100%. It’s an extremely undervalued aspect of the warning process, imo. Carly does a great job bringing that into the conversation.
I remember watching an episode of Storm Stories about a family that was hit my an F3 tornado with the father needing a brace due to his severe injury and image that will stick with me. I really think mobile home communities should invest in tornado shelter or individually underground shelter also being weather aware at all times.
Mossy Grove, TN F3 from the 2002 Veterans Day Weekend tornado outbreak. I remember hearing about that one too. One of the kids was severely traumatized because he was thrown naked through the air by the tornado due to him taking a shower when the tornado was hitting.
I remember watching that video on TH-cam.
In Van Buren County, Michigan, there are NO public tornado shelters. Which means that if the tornado happens at night (not uncommon) most public places are closed. In my community of Mattawan, the police chief has said publicly that he does not want people out driving during a storm. So forget about the fire station (no basement there anyway) or the police station. Ditto the churches. The Office of Emergency Preparedness says if you live in a mobile home to get into the bathtub and pull a mattress over you. That is pretty much the extent of it. YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN. And God help you if you are a senior who lives alone, no family, no vehicle, and mobility issues.
To make matters worse, the mobile home park where I live (no shelter there either but they are putting in a public swimming pool!) is on the north side of I-94. There are no potential shelters to speak of on this side of I-94 which means that people seeking shelter in town must go south and navigate two roundabouts at each end of a very narrow bridge. Now I have friends in town, but they are not always home; and while I am more than welcome to shelter with them in event of an actual warning, coming over during a watch is an entirely different matter. Watches can last several hours, often into the wee hours of the night. When you've got little ones to get ready for school in the morning and you have to go to work yourself, having someone come over and spend half the night "just in case"--well, I think you see the picture here. It's disruptive and if it happens too many times without a warning, now you are starting to get into "cry wolf" territory. The problem is we really don't get all that many tornadoes here in Michigan and most of them are rather weak, so there isn't the sustained awareness here that there is in other states.
Still I try to be as weather aware as possible, but it is rather discouraging to look around and see that there are no good options. After watching this video I am starting to wonder if my wooden shed might be better. No, it's not anchored but it is much closer to the ground.
I am in the exact same situation as you and I empathize greatly. It's incredibly frustrating to be left for dead by your own community.
Having followed you on Twitter for a while now, I know how important this video was to you. You did an awesome job with this one!
Really enjoy the channel and your content, especially the damage assessment videos. I've got one I'd like you to do one on sometime, if I may be so bold as to make a suggestion? On November 17th 2013, what seems to be a lesser-known, and less spoken about tornado occurred near Washington Illinois that was rated ef4. I have relatives that were impacted by that storm and having went to help with cleanup afterwards, and although I've been a severe weather fanatic for years and years I've yet to see a tornado, live and in the Flash, nor had I actually been able to see the immediate aftermath, and impact that these formidable acts of nature create, until such a thing fell upon those whom are close to myself and family. The things that I saw and the stories that I heard of survivors and victims, were harrowing and and hair-raising to say the least. This is why I have so much respect for the guys out in the field tracking these dangerous storms in real time, and people like you who are doing the best that they can to get a better understanding of how such severe weather events affect us to try and better conditions in which we dwell so that we can be safer when severe weather comes our way. Thank you and much appreciation for what you do and for sharing and teaching us little people so that we may be better prepared in the future. God bless you my friend and have a good rest of your storm season, and I wish you many more to come.
So, a peak behind the curtain...
I plan out some of my videos months in advance, particularly when an anniversary is coming up (like the Moore 2013 video). Lets just say a particular 10th anniversary is coming up in the month of November and I've already started planning for it months ago ;)
Additionally, thank you for the comment! I'm glad you are learning and enjoying from the work I put out! Cheers!
James Spann says there's one thing you can do in a mobile home, you have to get out of it for a more substantial shelter. Even an EF0 and EF1 tornado can very well kill you in a mobile home, as they're not anchored to the ground. They offer affordable housing, but they are unsafe in tornadoes. Like vehicles, they are death traps. Andover, Kansas F5 tornado on April 26, 1991 - 11 killed in the Golden Spur Trailer Parks. Even straight line winds will destroy it and can seriously injure or kill anyone in them.
June First: "So, what should YOU do if you live in a mobile home?"
Me: "Sell it."
Doesn’t help that they depreciate like a car.
I find it frustrating how wind zoning essentially screws over basically everyone living in a landlocked state. You're gonna get less sturdy buildings because you're not in a hurricane prone area. I mean, I absolutely understand that trying to enforce Hurricane precautions on landlocked areas is stupid, but the fact that pretty much every home more than 50 miles inland is subject to the same or very similar basic design wind speeds. Even in my home state of NJ, in the western half of the state(I live pretty much smack dab in the middle) those houses, including mine, aren't reinforced against hurricanes. Combine that with the fact that you see this less than stellar construction, not just in mobile homes but in other buildings as well, in the poorest parts of the country, it almost feels like safety in severe weather is a premium you have to pay that many cannot afford.
We just has a mobile home casualty in Claremont NC from an EF1 :(
This probably explains why one of the songs from the twister soundtrack is called mobile home.
Nice job dude, scary how often I come across these things when surveying tornado damage.
I'd seen plenty of tornado damage online, but seeing the damage in person from the one in nash county has a very different feeling to it.
Luckily everyone survived.
Definitely wouldn't want to live in a mobile home.
Mobile homes are cheap and affordable. We'll built homes are for boomers who have money. I very much appreciate the lack of standards we have in Texas because I can actually afford a mortgage because the land and house together are 50k. Anything more well built are 400k.
The regulations regarding mobile homes aren't changing anytime soon.
They are also the worst shelters for floods, I witnessed an entire mobile home park float away during a flash flood, and it wasn't the first time. But I think all mobile home parks in tornado risk areas should have a community tornado shelter which I believe some do have
Even before I watched this video I already knew very well about how dangerous mobile homes are during tornadoes.
Great video! I hope it gets popular so more people are aware of the dangers of mobile homes.
Mobile homes are not cheaper to maintain when they age.
2:42 Also includes RVs, and trailer hitch housing. Since those can be moved on a whim, they're slightly better. *_Slightly._*
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I live in an apartment, on the second floor. There's not really much option for shelter, and chancing the nearby houses is not a risk I'm willing to take. As of right now I also don't have money for essential supplies either, because I have a fixed and limited income. My plan is to do what I can moment to moment. That's it.
RV's and travel-trailers/ campers are probably the worst place to be in a tornado because they're built light in order to make them more mobile, they are not anchored in any way, and they catch more wind than most vehicles and we know that vehicles are a bad place to be in a tornado. I live in one and have no other rapidly accessible sheltering options. But I'm old and in bad health so it doesn't much matter to me anymore.
Your videos are excellent. You are very knowledgeable and present information smoothly, showing how well prepared you are. Thank you!
My stepmoms dad is the best mechanic in that town. Perrytons neighboring town, balko was hit, I was in it, rip to all the victims.
Im glad I don't live in a tornado prone state. I live in the PNW, and the likelihood of me seeing a tornado is non-existent. On average, 7 tornadoes happen a year. Most of them don't even reach past EF1 status.
Seems trailer parks in tornado prone areas would have a community bunker for twisters.
Some do, but often there are 100+ trailers in a park, and only 1 shelter that is often off to one side of the park. Nowhere near sufficient.
You're like the Johnny Harris of tornado/storm documentaries. Just incredible work, keep it up!
There is a simple reason why mobile home deaths are steadily increasing. People simply can't afford built-on-site homes or apartments. Taxes, High interest rates and greedy realtor/bankers. Its a lot cheaper to drag a 15 yearold trailer out in the countryside and avoid city taxes.
Definitely think when you go to a mobile seller they should also have a tornado shelter option available for anyone on a tornado prone location at a discount.
I appreciate you for this very important informative video!
Since they need to be light enough to move, they only weigh about half what most American hoses do per square foot, excluding the foundation which makes the weight closer to 3 or 4 times.
I don’t know what being in a mobile home gives be PTSD even as kid up till I was 7 we moved into a well built structured home which made me feel safe in a way. I used to panic as a kid in a mobile house during a severe thunderstorm gave me a anxiety attack but also ptsd and I just couldn’t not sleep at night due to the constant fear of someone bad happening. It’s still a problem for me to this day where I will not sleep till it’s over.
You did a great job at making this video
I feel bad for poors that live in trailers and/or apartments
Was planning on buying a trailer, then went thru my first tornado last week…no tornado warning or watch…im def being prepared n getting something more sturdy or building a shelter next to it…good video tho cuz those stats are wild 😳
I always live in houses that has a basement and storm cellar. I live in NJ.
I'm of the belief that all mobile home parks in severe weather areas, should have mandatory community tornado shelters. Full stop.
Nice video! I’m still looking for northeast tornado outbreak analysises.
People who ignore tornado warnings naturally select themselves, in a way.
The county I live in in Missouri has made new regulations concerning the mobile homes. They have decided that no new ones are allowed because of how unsafe they are. I once saw a EF-3 tornado directly hit a modular home just outside of Independence, Missouri. They interviewed the owner afterwards and asked how his home remain structurally sound. He stated that when he had the home built, he used hurricane straps
Are we not going to talk about the guy pouring concrete in flip flops? 2:52
What can be done about it? Fix the housing market!! Gen Z is just having a harder and harder time affording housing or renting, especially over the past 3 or 4 years. Of course they'll be looking for cheaper housing options.
I've always lived in a typical brick constructed , slab home.
We have moved to the country and had a manufactured doublewide home built.
A lot of the bad reports concerning mobile type homes is based on older construction .
There are now federally mandated standards for manufactured housing. Thus includes not just the structural, but also the electrical and plumbing, etc. We did a great deal of research and then found a builder in New Mexico who brought the house here to Texas.
Besides the federally mandated plumbing and electricity, we have 2x6 outer walls . Ceiling and floor joists are 2x8. The structure is anchored to the ground , setting on concrete piers. We still have the steel undercarriage. Additionally, we have incredible insulation, including the entire undercarriage. Every countertop in the kitchen, baths, and utilityroom are granite.
I know this is one of the best built homes in my area. The vast majority of non-brick homes are also traditionally set on piers .
In many rural communities , like my own, there are no building codes. That means a contractor will do everything to entertain your eyes while he pockets the most profit. You don't see the way the joists are put in or the plumbing and electrical . You don't see the quality of the underlying materials, and if there aren't building codes, then there isn't going to be a building inspector to verify anything before you move in.
Obviously, you get what you pay for. You can still purchase cheaper mobile homes, that while still required to meet certain federally mandated standards, do not have the structural integrity that I would consider safe. But you can find companies that build rock-solid
homes. You just have to invest in some research before you buy.
We sold a brick constructed home and did pocket some of that when we purchased this house. Now the appraisal value this house has went up a great deal. I was told that appraisers are becoming aware of the improved construction standards in manufactured homes, depending on the manufacturer. So these home will maintain their value as well as protect you .
If you're looking for any house to protect you in an E3 or stronger tornado, then you're probably just as likely to lose your life as I am. Fortunately, my county has a reasonable number of tornadoes, but only two E3 since 1950.
The "Federally mandated" regulations you tout are just an upgrade of the rules the existing MHMA already had, where their lobbyists got Congress to exclude mobile homes from local building codes same as before. These homes are not inspected, but are signed off by the factory who built them as meeting the regulations. The MHMA only visits occasionally much the same as with the FDA inspecting food processing plants; just a visit mostly insuring that the paperwork is in order and a quick walk-through on the factory floor. Yes the newer ones are better but they are still inferior to site-built homes in many ways, especially the foundations. Piers are stacked block without mortar, something no codes have ever allowed for site-built homes and pier-only foundations haven't been allowed for site built homes in several decades. That's the biggest problem with them in winds and no amount of discrete anchoring can equal the strength of the now=required direct-to-foundation anchor bolting most site-built homes are required to have and the hardware used to attach the roof systems and strap the studs is a far cry from that required for site-built homes. Look into how tornado surveys are done and how they rate structures based on scientific studies and you'll see that there's a big difference between a well-built home and a mobile home no matter the vintage. I've spent a lifetime career in building, renovating, and repairing everything from factories down to sheds and that's included a lot of mobile homes old and new, so I know what's going on. There's a huge difference.
At 5:20 there were 17 deaths, not 14, but still amazing video and PSA for those who are prone to tornadoes
I think it was 9/14 within Rolling Fork itself. The other 3 were outside city limits. But fair enough, I didn't quite elaborate ;)
Excellent video, again. This is a great example of avoidable deaths due to failures of governance and regulation.
Correct me if i´m wrong, but the communities living in mobile homes should at least invest in concrete slabs and mount their houses on them. Having a house lifted on simple piers and metal supports has the same effect on winds, as it does under the bridges - it amplifies the wind blowing there and as a result, whole houses act like wings.
Always fantastic work
Great work and well explained. Sub'd.
Mobile Homes.... We call them.. TRAILERS
Great public service/educational video.
Ya'll need to start building roll cages into or around those mobile homes.
I live in a mobile home hit by a EF2 tornado and it survived! Only cosmetic damage was done.
Ive got a new double wide. It is built to the same codes as site built homes. So far my home has weathered a stirm with 80 mph straight line winds. The winds damaged the skirting but the house is well anchored. It didnt even move. I felt nothing inside the house but heard the plastic skirting rip away.
I plan to get an above ground tornado shelter as soon as i can afford one. Until then i have an interior closet. I ride horses, so when we fet storm warnings i put on my riding helmet and safety vest, good shoes, etc. I have a thick quilt to wrap myself in for extra protection. That will have to do for now.
There has been a tornado death in my state this year. The woman was in a regular stick frame home.
Sorry but no mobile homes are built to the same codes as site-built homes. They can't be because mobile homes are exempted by law from building codes. The most that building codes can do with them it regulate where they're put, what size and type they are, whether they are built for that zone, and whether they are set up and anchored properly. The newer ones are better built and use 2X4 wall studs, but past that they're nowhere close to a site-built home.
Contraire my friend, tent city is the worst shelter.
well done, great discussion of this issue
they give plenty of cash out for EVs and solar rebates...they could be as persistent about tornado shelter installs...seeing as they actually save lives...and do some good...i think some rebates exist...but not anywhere near enough...
We saw the Elmore County tornado from our front yard.
already now its going to be a good video!
was the child alone??
Mobile home parks are tornado magnets change my mind
My worst fear (and it's irrational) is being in a trailer during a tornado or being stranded during a tornado lmao
I am so glad I live in an RV instead of a mobile home. Much safer.
Everyone should know to leave a trailer during a tornado. If you get caught sleeping then...
i will eat all mobile homes and there will be no more danger
To be fair, any home becomes a mobile home in an EF5 tornado.
i live in a mobile home somewhere a tornado has struck, whoop.
I wonder if modular homes are any better since they’re anchored on a concrete foundation.
They can be better, but at best they're not equal to a well-built site built home
My guess is a car or underpass
Yeassssss
2:53 Im from europe and for me thisnconstruction is too weak. Here we use more screws and nails, wider wood planks and roof have 2 times more wood planks than in this example. Idk why in usa buildings are so weak.
That drone shot of the railroad was illegal.
call the cops then
That's just where Europeans laugh at Americans. Just build sensible houses with a concrete foundation and a mezzanine floor and some problems would be solved. And then just the rest times not only from chipboard and a few screws but a reasonably built house of stone and wood. Greetings from the European house from the year 1904. Since Americans dream only of.
Maybe it's time we ban mobile homes
Nope, that's elitist, esspecially with our current housing crisis. Scoff at them if you want, but they provide affordable shelter the 99.99% of the time that there isn't a tornado lurking nearby. Homes should be built for everyday needs, not to deal with highly exceptional situations.
@@scarpfish
I know. I was just being facetious