DEADHEADS, a short and entertaining film about the fans of the Grateful Dead
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 มี.ค. 2016
- This project was done with humor, truth, and sarcasm. At the University of California, Santa Cruz, UCSC, where I went to college, there were many fans of The Grateful Dead. They called themselves Deadheads. I had not heard of the band before attending the school. I listened to the music, and I didn't understand why people felt so passionately about the band. I was intrigued. So in 1986, I decided to try and understand these people and the music they loved, and to create a video of my quest. This documentary project is the result. Enjoy.
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I haven't been to a dead show in almost thirty years and watching this, I CAN SMELL IT.
Just stay Grateful ✌🌍🎵
First show '69 (age 4)
296th and final show '93 (age 28) what a long ,strange and wonderfully beautiful trip it was. Thank you Mom
Best period in history to be young. We thought it would never end.
Dead & co is fire 🎉
You never wanted to grow up?
Im a young fan (20) and im absolutely in love with the band but I'm sad I can't ever see the full band play on stage ever. Much respect to yall!!!
You can still feel the vibe though
You're very lucky enjoy this time in your life
Try Phish
I love this, I’m a Middle aged fan (41), I was 16 in 95 and finishing up the 10th grade. I only saw The Grateful Dead twice. Thank God for TH-cam! You’re here now, embrace it, enjoy it...The Music Never Stopped, they’re a band beyond description, What a Long Strange Trip it’s Been, but What a Long Long Time To Be Gone, And A Short Time To Be There...
If you ever get the chance i would reccomend seeing dead & co, bob weir & wolf bros or phil lesh and friends. I saw bobby live back in february and even though i can't say how it compares to a real grateful dead show ( i was born after their break up as well ) i still had an awesome time!
If you love the music and the scene then you won't be disappointed.
God I miss this. So many memories. The kindness. The tolerance. The applause for thunder and rain. I carry this with me.
Me too !
As a Canadian who travelled the west coast to see some shows in 83 this video reminds me that America once was truly the Land of the Free. It saddens me to see what it has become.
OH those were the days Right on! I was such a damn kid back then. I was 18 in 1985 first show in 1983. Fucking 52yr old now. What a long strange trip life has been..... Tear in my eye ... LIFE IS AMAZING Thanks for the most part my experiences with The Dead and my heart of gold family "the heads" Thank you all my love and light .
Member of the heart of gold band.
NOT FADE AWAY!
Timber van Weerd Waar woon je nu?
"when you can look around and see thousands of people and they are all hitting the down beat with you" ...said so so perfectly...
Hhahahah. I Read that RIGHT when she was saying it .... that was fun thanks
so glad i can say "been there, done that"....before it was over..
Indeed! I got on the bus in Philly in '83. Rode it up and down the East Coast through the summer of '91. As Brian Adams said: "those were the best days of my life"
I mean the dead and co are still around
tis a shame I couldn’t have experienced it like this so grateful it happened for anyone though
Oh,but i'm sure that you got much more out of it than"been there,done that"🤣🤣🤣much Love and Peace!🙏✌
You and me both my friend,I can honestly say they were the best days of my life.
It sucked when the summer of 95 hit and I had to grow up, find a job and find a permanent place to live. Touring was a little slice of heaven on Earth.
Miss you fat man.
Edit... PS, thanks for this great documentary that let me relive the magic of the parking lots.
You're welcome! Thank you for the nice comments.
The fat man rocks
I must say, this was way more fun than what everybody is doing these days.
"The girls are the best and nicest looking and the happiest people you'll meet anywhere" . That's the secret of the scene- it makes women happy too xo
Hey! That's me! 1:27, 4:00, 8:58, 13:00, 14:35!! I'd love to connect with you others in the film, and the maker.
Wow. You were one of the stars. Cool.
it was such a wonderful part of my life so far!! really only my true love is better.
how much acid did you consume back then haha
You said such nice thoughtful things. You are a very pretty sister. Congrats on being a star.
So beautiful!
Dunno why everyone is acting like the "good days" are over. The band itself still plays and tours despite having new members, and let me tell you the scene and deadheads are still vibing strong. Newer generation, but a lot of old fans there to pass the torch and share good times with. Spent a month following the tour in my homie's van, you wouldn't believe how many like-minded free spiriters are still around. Just open your eyes and mind, the scene is still alive and well.
Jerry brought a vibe to everything that can't be recaptured...my buddy is an old head
Just gotta poke around
There's a dead show happening every day in the homeless tent encampments around California. They're basically the same kind of people.
We need this attitude of unity and respect for ourselves, the environment and humanity today more than ever.
i miss the scene. nothing like a grateful dead show.
Saaaaaaaaaaad faaaaaaaace.
With I could have gone dead and company’s the next best thing
Hey there's always DMB💓
Bonzo McDuffy 😩😫😣😥
☠️💀☠️💀☠️💀😍😍😍☠️💀☠️💀☠️💀😍😍😍👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Once in a lifetime this will never happen again in this society
It looked like it was about love, respect and unity. You will see THAT again.
O rly?
I assure you its still happening, just in another form.
Negative comment
Idk theres an underground edm scene that emulates that culture
People seemed so much more down to earth back then. Now everyone has this air of indifference about them. Wish I was older back then. I was born in 1984 so I was a little too late but this old footage is really great. Thanks.
+rsohlich1 yeah phish kids fucked it all up.///true story
+rsohlich1 You are welcome!
You must perpetuate the vibration, don't let yourself fall into that negativity ~keep the faith brother, it's you that makes it happen, your thoughts, your perception, it's your creation ~it's a co-creation that keeps on evolving...
hiraldo mcgoo You're right the kids are annoying, the band itself tho is good I really enjoy them
83' Here brother. I wish I had found these people at show's so I know what you mean.
I did about 30 shows from '74 to '85 and had some great adventures. I was notorious for getting inside late because the parking lot was such a blast! Thank you for sharing!
BonAirCadet same here in Buffalo Nos 😉
I was told by a firestick juggler Apache that the parking lot was a show in itself
Saratoga is my home park! Rock on!
bus came by and I got on.....thats where it all began
There was cowboy Neal
At the wheel
Of a bus to never-ever land (~) ;)
the bus came by and i got on~ that's where it all began...
YES - your a wise man !
What would you rather do? Work? Or get high and fuck all the time?
I love watching pre-show deadhead gatherings...it's like watching home movies of family reunions. We miss you Jerry! 🌹
I came for the drugs, and stayed for the music.
I can honestly say the same. First show 92. Aged 18.
I wonder what happened to landless tipi guy at 4.30? I hope things worked out for him & that he found his little patch of happiness.Seemed like a nice guy just a little down on his luck.We've all been there at some point,eh?
Jamie Wanfeax ey?!
Precisely Mate
I hope March winds blew all his troubles away
That guy? He probably owns a tire shop in Austin at this point haha
Me too, I hope that he's well
I loved what the guy with the flowers was saying. So true. What an amazing thing. I’m getting chills just thinking of it.
Partied with Jerry and Bob on the break between Rochester and Buffalo concerts. Phil disappeared with my date. I didn't care...Jerry was god!
ha ha ha ha
Thank you for putting this together. I absolutely loved it. It is so hard to explain to Non Deadheads, about the energy, the love, the smiles. Your life changes as soon as you park at a show. 2000 people + who all get along and you actually feel safe. I can’t thing of a safer place, especially in 2023. Thank you, love the Grateful Dead, and sure been lonely since my horse died ❤
Proud that I got to experience it all. My life was changed by the traveling, the concerts and the people I encountered along that strange trip. The vibe, the music and the fellowship will never be matched. God bless ya Jerry, forever in my heart......
Yep. I really do miss that fat man. Love and peace to you friend.
From Brent and his end to Jerry and his, I was there. Now I look at current culture and I am away from people during this PANdemIC and I wondered, "Why don't I miss people?" It's because what I REALLY miss is when people used to be cool. I miss the culture the Dead was creating. Festival/Concerts aren't the same anymore. Social media and a culture where the trending "woke" drugs are pharmaceuticals have changed it all too much. It will never be like it was again and I for one am glad I got to attend the hundreds of shows, coast to coast that I attended and to have met the people I did. It was outstanding and the absolute best times of my life to date.
Only been to a dozen shows. Wonderful vibes. Fantastic music.
Always had a great time!
Personally, I'm kinda "square", in the sense that I'm a Sober, political Conservative, a former Defense Contractor for the Air Force before changing my career to Environmental Engineering after having an Epiphany during my Vision Quest to the Total Solar Eclipse in Hawaii in 1991.
I do call myself a Deadheads, (among many other things)
I love Deadheads wherever I meet them. I don't do drugs or drink no more. If others do, that's their choice, but none of my business.
When good folks are kind and loving to one another, that's beautiful.
"Ain't no time to hate. Barely time to wait".
My 100 year old Grandmother "Babi" loved several Dead songs (and Warren Zevon too). I'd sing to her every day for couple months when she was dying. "Ripple" was her favorite. "Morning Dew", Brokedown Palace, Mama Tried, Uncle John's Band, Box of Rain, Terrapin Station, Scarlet Begonias, Franklin's Tower, ....
I've only seen them once since Jerry died. I've seen the Rhythm Devils and also Bob Weir and Donna Godchaux at the Gathering of the Vibes, used to be every summer at Seaside Park, here in Bridgeport CT. And Mickey Hart at Toad's Place, New Haven. I've seen Dark Star Orchestra a few times recently. Deadheads are wonderful folks.
And by the way, a friend of mine is Bob Weir's 2nd cousin and used to help the Dead set up the stage in Haight Ashbury, before going to Vietnam. Has lots of great stories.
"Dark Star" is the most surreal, fantastic and mystical piece of music I've ever heard. Totally mind-altering, even without drugs.
Lay down my dear brothers
Lay down and take your rest
Won't you lay your head upon your saviors breast
I love you, but Jesus loves you the best
And I bid you good night, good night, good night.
Thank you for sharing.
And we're happy to have ya
Bridgeport? I grew up in Bristol. We used to call Bridgeport the "armpit of New England" back before they tore down Father Panic Village. Remember the Bobby and the Midnights show at Toad's Place? I was the guy who startled Bobby in the middle of a song yelling one of his "Ha's" standing on the seat of a booth, so I was above the speaker, he heard me even above the stage monitor, jumped a bit, looked to the right where I was and shot me look, like "WTF dude?!" I didn't think he'd actually hear me, I was surprised as he was.
Babi
AMEN brother!!
i’m sure my dad was at some of these shows, he followed them around for a couple years back in the 80’s, he made a living selling grilled cheeses in the parking lot, apparently people loved his grilled cheeses and hunted him down at different shows, i love hearing his stories
Courtney Meola that’s fucking awsome
Yo cheese! A buck each
This place is poppin on shakedown street
did stewie trade him his tye dyed shirt for a grilled cheese?
What did he call them (grilled cheese)?
This is Buffalo Joe
A good friend of mine that some of you may know or know of has ascended and left this brokedown palace.
Rick Nespor of 'The Burrito People' fame has moved on to a new adventure on another plane. A kind and loving soul to whom I am eternally grateful. We had the time of our lives for years on many tours, travelling so many roads. It's hard to believe it was so long ago. It seems like yesterday.
Your laid back positive attitude, sense of humor and fearless quest for fun and rule breaking adventure will be greatly missed. Thanks for getting me to the shows on time.☺ The first to arrive and the last to leave, much to the chagrin of Barsotti, Big Jim, and the rest of Bill Graham's gang.😁
Fare Thee Well, until we
meet again.
Love you brother. RIP ❤
Buffalo Joe
p.s. Say hi to Jerry for me
Thank you for this! Oh the memories, flooding back, so rich with goodness. What joy in simply being with others, enjoying the time and space to breathe a lighter tune. Missing Jerry so much, the parking lot scene, always a colorful vision of humanity.
GREAT little flick man! What a way to discover the Deadheads. I wish it could have been 1985 forever! What an amazing time!
There were about TWO decades BEFORE that! Check out Jerry's other projects. (example: "Old and In the Way", etc... ) Lots and lots of stuff . . . take care and be safe.
This was fantastic. I think one of the best in-depth Grateful Dead lot scene videos on youtube.
The one young lady in the video explains it perfectly.. She went to see the Grateful Dead when she was an adolescent young 15-year-old kid, and she never grew out of it. That's pretty much what deadheads are... FOR LIFE!
Said she was 12 & no surprise your all a bunch of kiddie didlers.
"No one's noticed but the band's all packed and. one. Was it ever here at all ? But they (we) keep on dancing"
Just found this video. I miss seeing the dead play. I'm 17 and my parents have raised me on the Dead and I've loved this band for as long as can remember. My parents took me to the Fare Thee Well Further concert in 2016 and I wasn't into the music as much as they were, but once the band played US Blues, I jumped up from my seat and danced my heart out with hippies and other kids in the isle. That was when I got on the bus ⚡🌹💀
a friend of mine showed me this band almost 2 years ago, i fell in love! i pay for the satellite radio and only listen to the dead station (and maybe a couple blues and rock stations). i love hearing the stories when people call in and share their experiences in the crowds and with the band. i wish i could have experienced this! wish i could have went to the shows! i wish i was alive to see Jerry, i was born in 1995 but these guys really hit me deep. not many other bands out there connect with their fans the way the dead do. its amazing. i love finding these kinds of videos. thanks for the share!!
Outstanding pal ! My trip started in 83. This lil vid was a nice blast from the past. spectacular time of my life. What a blast ! Never to be repeated. Thanks for sharing buddy. Thats ,it ok great ! See ya ' !
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it.
working on the car while getting interviewed guy is a total badass
I miss the road,the parking lot scene, calling the hotline, mail ordering tix, and the fresh dose of live Grateful Dead music 15 or 20 times a year
❤❤
Peace brother;)
Being at a Dead Show can be a religious experience. People really care about one another, the Band cares about US, and the music is exquisite and touches your soul. It is a healing place. Since 1977, I've been on and off the bus. "Strangers stopping strangers just to shake their hand..." Sums it up pretty good.
💜✌🎶
NFA!
I work at festivals in the summer in California and it’s crazy how people are still trying to relive these times till this day. Must have been such a rad experience being there for good times
Imagine the smells of patchouli incense and weed, and 10's of thousands of these people tripping on acid piroueting, spinning and dancing in the darkened halls auditoriums and stadiums of a Grateful Dead concert. No other gathering will draw people from across the country and world in tricked out vw's and school buses. California license plates in the parking lots of Pennsylvania.
It Not Only Kept People Down To 🌎 Earth, It Overflowed As We Moved On !!! It's Somethin That Was A Grate Display How Things Can Be Beautiful For Years !!! Bad Thing It Will NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN & I Was Very Lucky To Be Part Of It For So Many Years !!!! B.Safe.....Peace
Thanks it was so cool to see myself 30 years ago. One of the guys in it named Kurt passed away in red rocks that year. Thanks for the flashback.
Are you literally seeing yourself? Which of the people in the documentary are you?
Yes I am a girl at the beginning wearing a coat, the other girl was a friend her name was Little Wing she said her Grandparents took her. Her husband Kurt passed away in Red Rocks. I would love to know what happened to their daughter. I think he never met her. Still saw Dead and Co with old friends this summer and my son who is 25 a product of tour and love of the band- Thanks!!
Wow. You are welcome.
Hey, kinda random but there is a comment on this video of a guy saying he used to have a crush on the girl next to little wing, which I think is you. It was posted a few days ago. Maybe you guys were friends who lost touch with each other or maybe not, but I figured I would point the comment out to you if u hadn't seen it.
Sincerely, Cupid.
I wrote to him, super cool I would love to know who it was. Those were the good old days. Thanks again for the share. I loved showing my father today as I will be 50 this year.
Love and Light. I wondered what the other consensus was , for this film project maker, besides "this project was done with humor, truth and sarcasm"? I was there too. "Dead to the core". Still GRATEFUL , today.
I was working in Manhattan and went for a run in Central Park one morning and bumped into Bob Weir who was also out for a run the week the Grateful Dead were playing Radio City Music Hall. Coolest six miles I ever ran with someone!!!
This was so well done and enjoyable. Thanks so much for making it and sharing it here.
You're welcome!
The Dead changed my life in the most profound ways. I was looking for something and it was bigger than I could imagine. Glad I made it before Jerry left.
That piano playing was just lovely
HERE HERE, absolutely
I swear i saw that dude playing on the boardwalk in Venice a couple months ago
What song is that?
I am so happy that I was part of the energy for a bit.
one of my first shows, just graduated high school, caught em in Charlotte in 89... oh what fun, if you get confused listen to the music play...
I only went to one Dead show in San Diego in 1993. Fucking great show. I honestly found it to be a transcendent experience. The atmosphere created by the Dead Heads was so happy and peaceful. I have been to a LOT of concerts over the years and seen all kinds of violent fuckwits starting trouble because they couldn't handle their meth. But at a Dead show, it was nothing short of peace on Earth. I just wish I was into psychedelics back then. I'd have loved a light dose of mushrooms to really settle into it all more!! Long live Jerry and the rest of the band carrying on the legacy 🙌
being born in 2000, i wish i had a chance to see Jerry live but at least theres hundreds of hours of recordings of shows to peruse
Changed my life!! Long live the Grateful Dead!!
I miss this so much!!! I wish I could go back in time!!
Some of the greatest days of my life.
Snuck up the back stairs of Holy Ghost Hall in Walnut Creek, California in 1966 to see the Dead.
Nicest thing about Deadheads was showing up to the show and meeting new people. But there was this one guy in the 80's who had a blow-up guitar. Saw him at West Coast shows. He'd pop in, do a little air-guitar on his blow up and say hello. I wonder if he still has the blow-up.
Proud to be a deadhead !
Back at ya sista
Thank you for the film. That was fun.
2:49 Love that girl on the right, her smile and optimism are infectious.
Went to all the shows I could from 9/2/78 to 6/19/95. No doubt some of the best, most amazing experiences of my life. Miss those days, and that energy that was there. Love the dead and the heads forever...
Whoa, that was close to my time frame for The Dead. 1977-95, for me. First show was Rochester, NY('77) War Memorial and the last was Las Vegas, NV, Sam Boyd(95). We were lucky to catch Jerry. I've been to other incarnations since, i e, The Other Ones, Furthur, Ratdog, Dead and co-all enjoyable, but not quite the same. Still fun to go, though, obviously. 😎🤘✌
Miss being at places with you in attendance brother.
We will get by, we will survive....now with jobs and a place to live.
78 to 95 for me too.
Always been into live music, but the Dead were certainly a fave. Changed my perspective on alot of things. Led me to a better life.
Peace!
"... and then the second set they stood up, and from there on out, I've been a deadhead."
Ya never know what's gonna make the difference...
Love and expect mellow 1st sets. Because most of the time the 2nd set
will give you a lobotomy !!!!! Long Freefall Jams on the mellow yet beyond
description side of Cosmic. Lost for words really #
1:42, yeah, that guy is THERE.
Sounds just like hendrix
I've been to a Phish concerts the last 6 years and I love the vibe from shake down st it feels like I'm home!!!!
Look at all those glorious and wonderful hippies!! Enjoy the ride!
might be the best band name ever. The Grateful Dead. Its just a wonderful name n thusly attracted loadsa fabulous art which became an intrinsic part of the whole thing. Very cool indeed. God bless The Grateful Dead.
Fantastic documentary. Thanks.
Wow. Thank you. And you're welcome.
Thankyou for all of the fond memories
Dead shows once were the pinnacle of my life. We didnt have cell phones ,or GPS, or alot money but we created a cool space in time.
This sends chills down my spine and a smile on my face.
Good Video. Brings back memories. That's around the time when I started going to Dead Shows
Thanks!
started in 1986 still go in strong today see you all this summer Dead and company tour
Nick 1989 blessings from Boston thank you
I love seeing this same energy reignited in the youth of today at our music Festivals like bonnaroo, Lost lands, burning man etc
Miss the good times and the dancing! 😀
I love every single one of you people
Been on the bus since 1970 and it's been a great trip!
my bus is in it a few times
Wow thanks.I see a few people from 1980s shows.My first show was Hampton Virginia 1987 Jerry came back from Comma,and alot of people came out for the shows.
simon napier dead heads stayed on my front lawn in Hampton Va. 1987 ! The colosseum down the street and around the corner advertised them as "the warlocks". The groupies were polite, calm, fun and peaceful they sweetly just kept to themselves. I enjoyed having them over. Not scary at all and there were many many many many. I wished I could have gone to the concert with them. Haha
Cool, Simon you should check out my Channel ...Its all 3 nights at Hampton 87 Recorded by me and my brother
@@jjcevering9411 that is cool, I like hearing the experience of the group from that perspective ... especially from a person that gets life, I hope you are doing well and it's not too late for that show ... the music never stopped =]
I lost count after about show 105. That's A lot for living in Utah and New Mexico. I would have never left the desert if it wasn't for them. It was good to roll back into to sort it all out afterward. Everyone had someone that they took for the first time, and we owe someone for taking us. Big shout out to Bill Graham. He had incredible patients with us. Thanks for hiring me the New Year's Eve show I couldn't get a ticket. Remember the giant cake that almost crushed us at a New Year's show. I pulled people onto the soundboard as fast as I could!! No one died because we cared about our neighbors. SEE YOU AT THE NEXT SHOW.
Oh the days before the touch heads *sigh• started my journey in 1982 Syracuse and was tourhead by 84' racking up over a hundred shows...not sure how many with all the JGB, Hunter, Bobby, kreutzman. All stars and associated fun! Miss it more than words can tell😓
I knew the scene was disturbed when (after in the dark) I saw a guy rolling in broken glass at Alpine...no one wanted to help clean up the lot and oh man...never mind all that static...best time of life.
Great times saw them 49 times god i miss the people esp the women so free so nice so friendly so warm
Outstanding...
My people! Kind, compassionate, chilled out.
I saw my first show when I was 17 at UCSB in 1973 and had such a time I kept coming back. Nice vid.
Thanks
Did you happen to see them that summer when they had the wall of sound? Maria Muldar and Warren Zevon opened for them. Saw them, can't remember how many times, in Ventura. Nothing left to do but smile smile smile ✌
Amazing love the Dead even more now
That piano at 15:30 was my favorite part. beautiful
There's still a large festival community and a huge love for the Dead. I've been to lots of festivals and it definitely saved my life and helped me to become who I am today
Mid- to late-80s video technology, reminds me of my college TV production projects, hauling that massive 3/4" U-Matic recorder on a golf cart with a 6 foot cable connected to a camera that weighed like a cinder block. You did a really good job on the sound mix, which is a key difference between a professional-quality production and an amateur one, and not easy to do with 2-track straight-cut audio editing capabilities.
this makes me wish i was born 30 years earlier
I went to 2 shows, 1985 at the Greek Theater in LA, and at Anaheim Stadium in 1987. I was in HS 1982-1986, and unlike most So CA yuppi new wave kids at my school I wore my hair long, and not because I liked the hair groups at the time (I didn't), it was because my group of friends and I were fascinated with the late 60s-the 70s music. We would watch Zep "The Song Remains" at the midnight movies and just trip on the 1973 crowd, (and this was 81-82'), and in 85' when I saw the Dead and the parking lot spectacle, it was like a time trip back to 1969 Literally! Awesome and glad I experienced it!
Little Wing!!!!
LOVE you😍
Not bad. I was in that crowd at the Kaiser but I didn't see myself. I did see Kurt and Little Wing, whom I knew for a few years. This was the calm before the storm. Seven months later, the Dead were allover MTV, had their only Top Ten record, and too many new fans.
Russell Laverty I
Knew Kurt from Bellevue wa. In high school. Just happened upon this video today. It's been a long time
Do you remember which year this was, Russell?
If it was 86, or 87, I was there too..
I was never a huge fasn of their music. I understand and respect what they did and what they were about. I was lucky enough to find myself at some historic Philly shows in the late 80's early 90's. As I look back now 30 years later I realize how lucky I really was. There was something so magical about being 17 years old and being at a Dead show parking lot and being into psychedelics like I was. The Dead show parking lot scene was something that could only ever happen at that time and at that moment. There will never be another time and moment like it was back then, just like there will never be another time and moment like right now...it's just back then seemed so much better than right now.
Cool project. When you are back in Santa Cruz come to Michael’s on Main in Soquel on Sunday evenings for Grateful Sundays. Interesting to see the scene almost 35 years after this footage was taken.
Oh my! It surely was a hoot!
Glad you had fun.
I always have been facinated by the hippie / dead head culture. Living as free as possible and open to the experience of life and not afraid to just be.
I wish I had the ability to live that way, I had responsibilities of a family that I had to work for and wasn't able to live for just only myself. But hey just like the military, it's not for everyone.
so many family faces I miss so dearly
Sure don't know what I'm going for but I'm going to go for it for sure.