You don't have to use the 5200 controller Mark. I know it's been said before but you can use a Wico control stick for analog games. You can also buy master play interface and use a Sega Genesis controller for digitally controller games. Playing the 5200 with a Sega Genesis controller, now that's playing with power.
I was so jealous of my friend Kevin who had a 5200: played this game whenever we went to his house. I agree about the controller: 30 years later, it's still awful.
Yup, the Wico Command Control for the 5200. It was very good, you could choose between self-centering joystick or not, or even just have it sel-center on the horizontal axis, or the vertical one. Had its own keypad, and was very well built.
Play the 8 bit computer version! Xegs or an 800/800xl. Just as good as the 5200 but with a standard cx40, wico, genesis pad, or my preference, a coin control competition pro.
Aha, I see that this Atari 5200 has been given a composite video mod. It's much nicer than the original RF from the older videos, with that annoying loud hum in the background. I'll take the dot crawl over that anyday. As for the 5200 joystick, I would look into a new joystick that someone has very recently built and is selling for around $125. It is a very sturdy joystick with arcade-caliber buttons and the stick itself appears to be very precise. And, of course, the trackball controller is a must, although I don't know if it works with Star Wars Arcade.
I was going to sell my old 5200 but games like this really make me rethink that. Now I am thinking about getting some new controllers for the system and picking up an old CRT tv. BTW how did you connect the system to your TV? The picture quality was great and I remember my old FR modulator connection to be touchy .
The one thing that always bugged me about Star Wars: The Arcade Game was that you're supposed to be flying an X-Wing, but it doesn't feel like it. You're moving a crosshair around the screen and the ship just kind of heads in the direction that you move the crosshair. It's like there's an invisible rubber band between the crosshair and the nose of your ship, pulling it in that direction.
Wow, yeah, this really shows the difference in power between the 2600 and the 5200, I mean, this actually looks like the arcade game after all, even when it's obvious that these are sprites and not vectors...
I have the version for the Atari ST. Graphic are better than this version and it has sound bites from the film...think "Great shot kid that was one in a million" was one of them
You should play this game on the Macintosh SE/512/SE-30. Its great! Monochrome but great! Plays with this new invention xerox came up with called a "mouse".
I saw a game room tour of Mike Matei from Cinemassacre and he had a5200 but had bought a controller adapter and used a sega Genesis controller but adapter looked large bulky and expensive and he didn't say where he bought it.
He used a master play interface. People love to hate the 5200 for not having controller options without knowing there are many options, including the master play interface. I purchased a third party interface from a guy on Atari age who makes them and they are excellent. I use a 2600 joystick for analog games and a Sega Genesis controller for digital games. No idea if he still makes them but i will include the link to the Atari age page. atariage.com/forums/topic/244698-atari-5200-masterplay-clone-with-paddle-mode/
Ahh. The 5200. One redeemimg quality. The true analog trackball. Great versions of missile command, centipede, and even space invaders. Try it! For all other joystick games, you're way better off with Atari 8-bit computer versions and using any of the myriad of sticks availble for it.
Those aren't the right pew-pew lasers. Defender must have been visiting at the time they made that game. Oh, and Mark- you need to blow the Deathstar into more than 4 pieces. They're just reassembling it for the next level.
I feel like if there was a Super Mario 64 mod where instead of a floating Mario head, there was a floating Jar Jar head... Mark would spend countless hours in sadistic joy contorting and pulling Jar Jar's face into contortions that go against nature. That or if there was a Whack-a-Jar Jar machine. Mark would probably use a real hammer though...
I loved the 5200 controller, never had a single problem with it. I beat pitfall 2 with it as well as a lot of other games. You just need to get use to it I guess. I hate the thumb controllers they have now. They aren't joysticks, they are just lousy thumb controllers, they sucked with the intellivision and they sucked with nintendo and up. Can't a game system make a real controller, instead of thumb pads all the time? Ugh, I hate thumb pads.
One good way is to increase the shutter speed to 1/60 or above (I usually use 1/30). This is because CRT TVs take about 1/60 of a second to draw the entire image, so if your shutter is open for less than that, it won't capture the entire image being drawn, causing those dark bands.
this guy has a dank setup I would personally prefer a widescreen HDCRT that supports 480i/480p/720p/1080i/1080p and has svideo component and hdmi included
Incorrect, these old school low res games actually look worse on a hi res tv because of the upscaling that gets applied….. plus your image would not fill up the whole screen and would be annoying to look at
I miss Derek!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+Pisces Yoshi I always got the feeling it was because he tended to be alot more negative than Mark. Gamers tend to have... problems... when a game they like isnt liked by someone else. Particularly reviewers. There's also the fact that he tended to like Nintendo's stuff, which apparently is a sin, so says the **ahem** "hardcore" crowd. I personally thought his content was very good.
The thankyou splash screen at the end is killing your videos Mark, they are nearly two minutes long! Just throw a simple 5 second splash screen with all the patreon names. My two cents anyway
you are dropping too many videos. I love your stuff have for many years. Undertow was a release of sorts for you. Your chemistry was great with Derek all seemed well. Then you drop undertow and carry the weight yourself while making money off patron... You also keep mentioning the RZone which is like a slap in the face to all undertow fans...
You don't have to use the 5200 controller Mark. I know it's been said before but you can use a Wico control stick for analog games. You can also buy master play interface and use a Sega Genesis controller for digitally controller games. Playing the 5200 with a Sega Genesis controller, now that's playing with power.
Still a nice bonus that the Star Wars Arcade games were included in Rebel Strike.
I actually just found that out yesterday!
Talking to/through the controller. Thumbs up!
"It's not my fault! They told me they fixed it!"
I just ordered Cgr Beer Stein can't wait.
Awesome new set up! It is so Lando....
I was so jealous of my friend Kevin who had a 5200: played this game whenever we went to his house. I agree about the controller: 30 years later, it's still awful.
Like a cheap wine, it got worse with age….
Review the CRT TV!
Oh yeaaah! :v/
It's beautiful
Agreed! it looks very sharp too.
You would think that someone would've made good third party controllers for the 5200 by now
someone on atari age is building something that lets you use jaguar controllers.
I second that... its the main thing holding me back from getting one.
They did back in the day.
Yup, the Wico Command Control for the 5200. It was very good, you could choose between self-centering joystick or not, or even just have it sel-center on the horizontal axis, or the vertical one. Had its own keypad, and was very well built.
Alaska1925 And yeah I was right the XE line has a more arcade like vectorish remake of the arcade game as well from the later 80s.
Play the 8 bit computer version! Xegs or an 800/800xl. Just as good as the 5200 but with a standard cx40, wico, genesis pad, or my preference, a coin control competition pro.
Aha, I see that this Atari 5200 has been given a composite video mod. It's much nicer than the original RF from the older videos, with that annoying loud hum in the background. I'll take the dot crawl over that anyday. As for the 5200 joystick, I would look into a new joystick that someone has very recently built and is selling for around $125. It is a very sturdy joystick with arcade-caliber buttons and the stick itself appears to be very precise. And, of course, the trackball controller is a must, although I don't know if it works with Star Wars Arcade.
Glad to see Stella's doing well!
Have to admit, the game looks impressive. Also, the new intergalactic space arcade CRT station looks so crisp and clean...
I was going to sell my old 5200 but games like this really make me rethink that. Now I am thinking about getting some new controllers for the system and picking up an old CRT tv. BTW how did you connect the system to your TV? The picture quality was great and I remember my old FR modulator connection to be touchy .
Back in the day I was shocked how good that game actually was.
SOME GAME!
Solar Eclipse, nice. Looking forward to that review.
Not playing it on the XEGS? Or at least using a third party stick? Or maybe the later 80s Domark versions?
I think my favorite port is the one for MS-DOS.
The one thing that always bugged me about Star Wars: The Arcade Game was that you're supposed to be flying an X-Wing, but it doesn't feel like it. You're moving a crosshair around the screen and the ship just kind of heads in the direction that you move the crosshair. It's like there's an invisible rubber band between the crosshair and the nose of your ship, pulling it in that direction.
This is one of my favorite Star Wars games.
That cartridge desing LOL gotta be a Parker Brothers game
Wow, yeah, this really shows the difference in power between the 2600 and the 5200, I mean, this actually looks like the arcade game after all, even when it's obvious that these are sprites and not vectors...
Michirin9801 And the sound effects.
This did also come out for Atari 8-bit computers, so it would work with the XEGS that Mark has.
I have the version for the Atari ST. Graphic are better than this version and it has sound bites from the film...think "Great shot kid that was one in a million" was one of them
Ben heck should make a nifty wireless ergonomic atari 5200 controller.
Are those speakers Monitor 7's or 9's?
7s
Thr 5200 controller is a weird mix of a 2600 and intellivision controller.
It’s just a bizarre design, even at a time when controllers started getting a bit weird
That was a cute dog Mark had.
Funny, I was just watching the review for the Atari 2600 yesterday.
Is that Super Metroid I see in the snes? Also that controller looks absolutely terrible... What were they thinking?
Soooooo where does it fall: Lando or Jar-Jar?
You should play this game on the Macintosh SE/512/SE-30. Its great! Monochrome but great! Plays with this new invention xerox came up with called a "mouse".
Vector Graphic games are the GREATEST!!!
I need working controllers for my 5200! tempted to just get rid of it.
I saw a game room tour of Mike Matei from Cinemassacre and he had a5200 but had bought a controller adapter and used a sega Genesis controller but adapter looked large bulky and expensive and he didn't say where he bought it.
He used a master play interface. People love to hate the 5200 for not having controller options without knowing there are many options, including the master play interface. I purchased a third party interface from a guy on Atari age who makes them and they are excellent. I use a 2600 joystick for analog games and a Sega Genesis controller for digital games. No idea if he still makes them but i will include the link to the Atari age page. atariage.com/forums/topic/244698-atari-5200-masterplay-clone-with-paddle-mode/
Even Jar Jar would aprove of the awesome set up.
Ahh. The 5200. One redeemimg quality. The true analog trackball. Great versions of missile command, centipede, and even space invaders. Try it! For all other joystick games, you're way better off with Atari 8-bit computer versions and using any of the myriad of sticks availble for it.
So glad that they remade this arcade game it's now in the wendy's arcade
Those aren't the right pew-pew lasers. Defender must have been visiting at the time they made that game. Oh, and Mark- you need to blow the Deathstar into more than 4 pieces. They're just reassembling it for the next level.
need to use trackball to work from the instruction manualy
I feel like if there was a Super Mario 64 mod where instead of a floating Mario head, there was a floating Jar Jar head... Mark would spend countless hours in sadistic joy contorting and pulling Jar Jar's face into contortions that go against nature.
That or if there was a Whack-a-Jar Jar machine. Mark would probably use a real hammer though...
I loved the 5200 controller, never had a single problem with it. I beat pitfall 2 with it as well as a lot of other games. You just need to get use to it I guess.
I hate the thumb controllers they have now. They aren't joysticks, they are just lousy thumb controllers, they sucked with the intellivision and they sucked with nintendo and up. Can't a game system make a real controller, instead of thumb pads all the time? Ugh, I hate thumb pads.
Well, thumb pads hate you too!
How do you film the CRT without having the flashing line things?
He probably has a video sync device for his camera.
R-Zone filter.
One good way is to increase the shutter speed to 1/60 or above (I usually use 1/30). This is because CRT TVs take about 1/60 of a second to draw the entire image, so if your shutter is open for less than that, it won't capture the entire image being drawn, causing those dark bands.
I'm still waiting for the dog review!
this guy has a dank setup I would personally prefer a widescreen HDCRT that supports 480i/480p/720p/1080i/1080p and has svideo component and hdmi included
IND4GR0V3 You would need to scale up the older systems, because the older ones are made for CRT tv's
it would still look good on an HDCRT
at least they do on mine
Yeah
Incorrect, these old school low res games actually look worse on a hi res tv because of the upscaling that gets applied….. plus your image would not fill up the whole screen and would be annoying to look at
Lando CRT Review Station, JarJar controller.
awesome
I miss Derek!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
me 2
He's the worst thing to have ever existed.
+Wheels8504 You mean you didn't enjoy his lay back reviews, great monologues, and awesome high voice?
+Pisces Yoshi I always got the feeling it was because he tended to be alot more negative than Mark. Gamers tend to have... problems... when a game they like isnt liked by someone else. Particularly reviewers. There's also the fact that he tended to like Nintendo's stuff, which apparently is a sin, so says the **ahem** "hardcore" crowd. I personally thought his content was very good.
Most loved game on the most flopped console with the most hated controller of all time.
Most impressive
Review those nice speakers!
this game is way better in the arcade. its due to the vector graphics.
this should have been on the Vextrex
did you know that you can type "star wars" with only the left hand? while you hold the mouse with your right hand? except for luke of course
In this day and age you might as well just play the actual arcade through Mame instead of a watered down port.
Very true... its a hard sell with all this technology. Mostly us console collectors and nostalgia lovers!
Those speakers are lando
i think this is the only game that works for 5200 controller
You cant beat explosion effects of the Atari Systems
It at least looks way better than on the 2600
Patrol Towers can't patrol, towers are inherently sessile.
Jardo Carbinkian :)
It looks like a vectrex game
does that game remind anyone of the earth will die screaming
Yeah... Colecovision version is suck!
The thankyou splash screen at the end is killing your videos Mark, they are nearly two minutes long! Just throw a simple 5 second splash screen with all the patreon names. My two cents anyway
you are dropping too many videos. I love your stuff have for many years. Undertow was a release of sorts for you. Your chemistry was great with Derek all seemed well. Then you drop undertow and carry the weight yourself while making money off patron... You also keep mentioning the RZone which is like a slap in the face to all undertow fans...
dropping twenty videos no one wants to see a week and taking more donations at the same time really sucks...
That's certainly not a very competent troll comment attempt there.
?? its an opinion and why im no longer subbed to CGR. Go shit in your hand =)
Not Interested.