Great job, Beautiful place very relaxing area, I remember being in Bishops Cleeve, Woodmancote the Cotswolds working as a Aerospace Defence Hardware Test Qualification Verification consultant contractor, I even worked in Tewkesbury always flooded area, I sure loved living in the countryside, I used to live in Wilcott Nesscliffe Shropshire as a teenager, far more relaxed life being close to Nature & Wildlife ❤💚👍🦊🦉🦇
My missus used my phone to go on you tube and ended up watching your channel, I asked if she was watching to see the plumbing projects and she said “no, I’m watching coz that lads a stud muffin”. Needless to say, she ain’t allowed to watch your channel no more!
Great video as always. Attention to detail is second to none. Don’t know why but I find it relaxing watching other plumbers knocking there pans in from the comfort of my sofa. 😅 Keep up the great work. All the best
I really enjoy your vids because you explain everything so methodically. Your copper work really belongs in a museum. I would hate to cover any of it up with a cupboard. It's a pleasure to look at. Thanks for sharing the clients home and grounds. What a beautiful location. No worries about the mistakes. We all make them. It's smart that you show them and how they are corrected. Sometimes when I make a mistake on a job, I end up with a better final project than if I hadn't made a mistake. It makes you think. Good on you.
Good install and would been happy with the install in my own house.Like the press fit,good piece of kit and will be my next purchase.Keep up the good learning content and I will keep watching 😄👍🏻
I am 73 now and well used to fitting very old heating systems and even park ray boilers that were completely gravity, systems with old barrel pipe connections,My question is, all those extra filters, and purification, type additions like Magnaflow, are they totally needed, in other words, these modern boilers will not actually fire up if they are not there or is it just to keep the servicing correct,I ask simply because in my day the original floor standing Potterton, had none of these modern benefits, and from time to time we would drain them, and refill with fresh water, but probably only after about twenty years, Yes the old kingfishers were simple, and lasted forever it seems , cheers from a fan,.Thanks for all your videos,s
We used this type of boiler up to 2010 in Hungary, still 1000s in use, air from room , balanced, and always needed went from outside, cause we have load of block flat with over 30m tall chimneys, we used to line the flue with aluminium single wall liner, due the long flue the aluminium liner start the corrosion from condensation out of Carbon monoxide, inside that flue is aluminium residue from corrosion, so if use CCTV flue camera prob the flue has alu liner and full of holes... seen millions times.. 👍👍nice job anyway
Been plumbing 20 years still learning stuff everyday. One big thing I will say mate is never use the earth wire as a conductor. Every 240v cable has to be earthed even if the device it connects to doesn’t. Great video a normal though, cheers.
I'm not having a go, and I'm no electrician. But if a product like a thermostat is class 2 and doesn't require an earth as the product is plastic then why do I need an earth? Or am I missing something
Ah OK. It makes total sense to have an earth but kinda makes class 2 products pointless as you need the earth for the cable. You can pass a class 2 on pat test so as with some gas stuff, seems a grey area. Ill chuck an earth in from now on
@@silvergrim if you think about it, a class 2 product made of plastic can’t be earthed because it’s plastic therefore no earth required, but obviously the cable could electrocute someone with no earth so earth always required. Just trying to help you understand
Great video mate Sam Jesus Bruv that is some hard slog your doing there massive respect and still going to the effort And showing us lot what you’ve been up to, I think I’ve forgotten all that you have showed us so far so it’s nice for a recap 👍🏻👊🏻
to put a mexico style boiler in the van, position it about 18" from the bumper with it back facing the van, then just tip back till its resting against the bumper, it can then be lifted from the bottom allowing u to slide it in, can do it by urself
@@PBPlumber You’re welcome Pete always a pleasure to get a notification of your new video you make a good job of them and they are always interesting and varied. Ps That was a nice house you are working in!
Excellent video as usual, from my understanding the room stat should be wired in a 4 core, any cable that carries 240v must have a connected earth in it. If by accident someone cut the room stat cable there would be no earth protection.
Spot on chief...i did a nvq in basic electric wiring in the 90s...the earth is the last one to be ripped out...and that's the one that protects you..happy days.gud vids👍
And then he uses the earth as a live in his roomstat , oh dear, only saying cause I got told off once and got schooled by a proper electrician. Other than that , good video.
Looks a nice install considering some of the minor problems. I’d’ve smashed them cakes lol. Those old boilers are heavy bastards though ain’t they. Rookie errors are the easiest ones to make of all, worth the cost of the fittings for the time and stress saving for sure. I was always told to make the earth longer by my dad, he was a pit electrician. Hope you L Box ain’t too knackered. Sam’s obviously a top guy and a grafter. It a tough when you’re learning and still needing to bring in some coin, I take my hat of to him for it.
Great video as all ways. Press fit are great that's my next big purchase. Mainly because you can press when the pipe has water in it. That's the down side when you make a mistake. It's the price of the fittings. Well done for showing the mistake mate 👍
@@PBPlumber I can imagine mate, I was thinking of filming my day at work. I’m more gas and heating than plumbing. Just wouldn’t know where to start with the editing etc
Work looks awesome man. I'm just not a fan of pro press, Do to cost of fittings. I agree time is money but solder is the my thing. But very clean work very impressed.
Is there a reason why you didn't use the Vaillant wiring centre in the installation? It isn't immediately apparent from the Vaillant instructions but if you use 3rd party controls then because it doesn't know the difference between hot water charging and heating, it applies the automatic heating partial load and also the anti-cycling time, which can cause it to take much longer than expected to recharge a hot water cylinder because it doesn't get up to maximum temperature. You can disable the anti-cycling and heating partial load but then you lose the benefit of that with the heating circuit. I think really Vaillant should make it more clear in the instructions what benefits are lost from not using their wiring centre.
Half a dozen fixings and 5 minutes would have split the boiler down into it's component parts and made loading it into the van a lot easier. Learned from years of removing GW Spacesavers!
Really cool install I don't think top plumbers in the world would have done it much better! Only thing I don't like which is complete personal preference is the look of press fit fitting's they look so chunky and jut out of the wall so much! But i can completely understand the use here especially when you need hot water back on in the day. Another job well done there PB!
I have just finished my level 2 diploma in plumbing and waiting to go back to college in September to complete my level 3 to become full qualified, I have a another job getting in the hours before I go back to college and I am not sure what do to now, any advice? I have my CSCS card and waiting for my driving test which Is booked in November. Anywhere taking on? I am based on Merseyside will work anywhere in the North West, I have hands on experience and have my own tools and 23 years old.
@@steowens8243 Yes, Ste, all well and good on a Combi. No good for Heat only, or System Boilers. Plus any time served installer, wouldn't what to mess about with Flow/Return Values. If they are a few years old. ☹
Have you ever thought of doing commercial ?? You don’t have the worry of getting Mrs Smiths heating on after a boiler change by the end of the day, and there’s money to be made............ just wondering 😁
@@mynameis9739 it doesn't comply with the wiring regulations. If I the future someone comes along and alters the wiring or replaces any component parts they may not realise that the cpc has been used as a live conductor and connect to another cpc or grounded connection or metal exposed part leaving a dangerous situation.
@@mynameis9739 it was common practice years ago but is non compliant. Normally regulations are changed because something happened ( normally a death ) that an investigation shows the cause to be a bad practice or anomaly In the regs
Drain off at the low point where we connected onto the old system and on a Vaillant both the flow and return valves on the boiler have drain cocks built in
Great video, been watching your videos for quite some time, please go back to soldering 🙏 looks so much better than press, and your good at it so why fix something that’s not broke, it also is what set you apart from the other plumbers on TH-cam, we won’t mention who 😂👍
@@samlowe6814 I have a daughter that's 6 and I worked away Mon to Friday since before she was born. Some times things need to be done to provide for the family. And the time we do spend together at weekends means so much more
@@accesszero4803 I’m glad you’re not the only one who don’t like them Ian !it’s quite a flimsy stand-off bracket and as you say they don’t line up properly with the boiler but mind you the vaillant boilers are not what they used to be .10-15 years agoThey were much better
On gravity systems with a F&E in the loft you have low pressure filling the system and air locks can form . This job was a sealed system so pressurised from the mains .
@@EliteHydronics. . Not at all. In all my 77 years I have not had a plumber who came when he said he would and some have not showed up at all. One company recently wanted £178 to look at water hammer in my bathroom. So don’t say I make shitty comments thank you. Plumbers need rot get their shitty way of working together.
Nice neat job Pete, what a lovely location!! The client must of been well pleased with the installation. 😊
Hi Pete, That is really good done mate. Well impressed with quality of work.
Great job, Beautiful place very relaxing area, I remember being in Bishops Cleeve, Woodmancote the Cotswolds working as a Aerospace Defence Hardware Test Qualification Verification consultant contractor, I even worked in Tewkesbury always flooded area, I sure loved living in the countryside, I used to live in Wilcott Nesscliffe Shropshire as a teenager, far more relaxed life being close to Nature & Wildlife ❤💚👍🦊🦉🦇
Lovely copperwork. Hats off to Sam.
Thank you 🙏🏼
My missus used my phone to go on you tube and ended up watching your channel, I asked if she was watching to see the plumbing projects and she said “no, I’m watching coz that lads a stud muffin”. Needless to say, she ain’t allowed to watch your channel no more!
Only just caught this video, great pipe work and install, you should be very proud of it, you can go home knowing that you've done a good job.
Great video as always. Attention to detail is second to none. Don’t know why but I find it relaxing watching other plumbers knocking there pans in from the comfort of my sofa. 😅 Keep up the great work. All the best
I really enjoy your vids because you explain everything so methodically. Your copper work really belongs in a museum. I would hate to cover any of it up with a cupboard. It's a pleasure to look at. Thanks for sharing the clients home and grounds. What a beautiful location. No worries about the mistakes. We all make them. It's smart that you show them and how they are corrected. Sometimes when I make a mistake on a job, I end up with a better final project than if I hadn't made a mistake. It makes you think. Good on you.
Your videos on a Sunday night is like waiting for the old top gear to come on lol great video again
Good install and would been happy with the install in my own house.Like the press fit,good piece of kit and will be my next purchase.Keep up the good learning content and I will keep watching 😄👍🏻
Great video and well done to Sam putting the graft into doing the training 👍
Cheers Mike 🤜🏼🤛🏼
Great video again. Nice to see not hiding mistakes ( which you could do easily in edit ) we are all human. Well done to you both. Nice job
Cheers lee 🤜🏻🤛🏻
I am 73 now and well used to fitting very old heating systems and even park ray boilers that were completely gravity, systems with old barrel pipe connections,My question is, all those extra filters, and purification, type additions like Magnaflow, are they totally needed, in other words, these modern boilers will not actually fire up if they are not there or is it just to keep the servicing correct,I ask simply because in my day the original floor standing Potterton, had none of these modern benefits, and from time to time we would drain them, and refill with fresh water, but probably only after about twenty years, Yes the old kingfishers were simple, and lasted forever it seems , cheers from a fan,.Thanks for all your videos,s
We used this type of boiler up to 2010 in Hungary, still 1000s in use, air from room , balanced, and always needed went from outside, cause we have load of block flat with over 30m tall chimneys, we used to line the flue with aluminium single wall liner, due the long flue the aluminium liner start the corrosion from condensation out of Carbon monoxide, inside that flue is aluminium residue from corrosion, so if use CCTV flue camera prob the flue has alu liner and full of holes... seen millions times.. 👍👍nice job anyway
PB - another great video. Really enjoying your content.
Sam - keep on going pal; you've got this!
Thanks Gary 💪🏼
real life plumbing , love the vids keep them coming
Cheers John 🤜🏽🤛🏽
Aww You right. It keep system up won't go foult. Keep it good work. God bless.
Been plumbing 20 years still learning stuff everyday. One big thing I will say mate is never use the earth wire as a conductor. Every 240v cable has to be earthed even if the device it connects to doesn’t. Great video a normal though, cheers.
I'm not having a go, and I'm no electrician. But if a product like a thermostat is class 2 and doesn't require an earth as the product is plastic then why do I need an earth? Or am I missing something
I’m no electrician either but my understand is your earthing the cable, say the cable got nicked or hit with a screw etc.
Ah OK. It makes total sense to have an earth but kinda makes class 2 products pointless as you need the earth for the cable. You can pass a class 2 on pat test so as with some gas stuff, seems a grey area. Ill chuck an earth in from now on
@@silvergrim It’s more properly called a circuit protective conductor, it provides protect if you chop through the cable.
@@silvergrim if you think about it, a class 2 product made of plastic can’t be earthed because it’s plastic therefore no earth required, but obviously the cable could electrocute someone with no earth so earth always required. Just trying to help you understand
Great video mate
Sam Jesus Bruv that is some hard slog your doing there massive respect and still going to the effort
And showing us lot what you’ve been up to, I think I’ve forgotten all that you have showed us so far so it’s nice for a recap
👍🏻👊🏻
Cheers mate! Appreciate it 🤜🏼🤛🏼
to put a mexico style boiler in the van, position it about 18" from the bumper with it back facing the van, then just tip back till its resting against the bumper, it can then be lifted from the bottom allowing u to slide it in, can do it by urself
Great video mate. What a fab house! Beautiful grounds as well
Great video Pete! Keep em coming cheers up my Sunday mate!🙂👍
Thanks Salim glad you like them
@@PBPlumber You’re welcome Pete always a pleasure to get a notification of your new video
you make a good job of them and they are always interesting and varied. Ps That was a nice house you are working in!
Pipe work looks brilliant. Despite the little mistake its all looking good 👍👍👍
Excellent video as usual, from my understanding the room stat should be wired in a 4 core, any cable that carries 240v must have a connected earth in it. If by accident someone cut the room stat cable there would be no earth protection.
Every electrical point has to have an earth wire installed . Even if equipment is doubled insulated .
Not sure BS 7671 would agree with you.
Great video Pete….. enjoyed that 👍🏼👍🏼
Nice work matey, glad you make time for these vids 👍🏼
Looks good to me! Stay well. Ian B.
Cheers Ian 🤜🏽🤛🏽
Spot on chief...i did a nvq in basic electric wiring in the 90s...the earth is the last one to be ripped out...and that's the one that protects you..happy days.gud vids👍
And then he uses the earth as a live in his roomstat , oh dear, only saying cause I got told off once and got schooled by a proper electrician. Other than that , good video.
It was like watching the Chuckle Brothers putting that old boiler in the van.
😂😂😂
@@PBPlumber what concerned my was the sack trolley moving on its own accord when you were loading it in the van..spooky or what??
My short flue on a system boiler from 2001 was full of that shale too.
Smashing it pb as always great inspiration for an apprentice 👍
Looks a nice install considering some of the minor problems. I’d’ve smashed them cakes lol. Those old boilers are heavy bastards though ain’t they. Rookie errors are the easiest ones to make of all, worth the cost of the fittings for the time and stress saving for sure. I was always told to make the earth longer by my dad, he was a pit electrician. Hope you L Box ain’t too knackered. Sam’s obviously a top guy and a grafter. It a tough when you’re learning and still needing to bring in some coin, I take my hat of to him for it.
Great video as all ways. Press fit are great that's my next big purchase. Mainly because you can press when the pipe has water in it. That's the down side when you make a mistake. It's the price of the fittings. Well done for showing the mistake mate 👍
Top notch as always
Great video as always. If I new u we’re in Birmingham Wednesday would and loved to meet up, Sam take my hat off to you 👍🏻
We are gonna go back on his last week to celebrate and buy him dinner 🥰
Best part of my sundays 😂
Worst part of mine 😅😂
@@PBPlumber I can imagine mate, I was thinking of filming my day at work. I’m more gas and heating than plumbing. Just wouldn’t know where to start with the editing etc
I love your videos mate.
Great work
Noticed the down stairs circuit being on its own, thought I was missing something haha!
Must be a pleasure working on a job like this.
Work looks awesome man. I'm just not a fan of pro press, Do to cost of fittings.
I agree time is money but solder is the my thing. But very clean work very impressed.
Hi mate, what brand press fittings do you use. And do you ask customers before you install press as it’s more bulky
Great video mate. Always learning #pressgang
Is there a reason why you didn't use the Vaillant wiring centre in the installation? It isn't immediately apparent from the Vaillant instructions but if you use 3rd party controls then because it doesn't know the difference between hot water charging and heating, it applies the automatic heating partial load and also the anti-cycling time, which can cause it to take much longer than expected to recharge a hot water cylinder because it doesn't get up to maximum temperature. You can disable the anti-cycling and heating partial load but then you lose the benefit of that with the heating circuit. I think really Vaillant should make it more clear in the instructions what benefits are lost from not using their wiring centre.
Hi pb nice pipe work by the way I like your boots are they steel toe caps.
Was the by pass between flow and return
Half a dozen fixings and 5 minutes would have split the boiler down into it's component parts and made loading it into the van a lot easier. Learned from years of removing GW Spacesavers!
How come the butterfly valve is closed during the purging? (15:10)
Great job. Do you do any other systems like unvented cylinders, system boilers, renewable, heat pumps...?
I do lil dance when the intro comes in
Hi pb, is there something you can put on a soldered joint if your soldering near another joint. Is there a type of putty I can buy to stop this thanks
Thanks
Another nice job - could they have had a wireless thermostat?
thanks Gareth. no the lady isn’t well and has a 24 hour carer so we needed to keep things as simple as possible
@@PBPlumber ahh ok - I know what you mean mate
Really cool install I don't think top plumbers in the world would have done it much better! Only thing I don't like which is complete personal preference is the look of press fit fitting's they look so chunky and jut out of the wall so much! But i can completely understand the use here especially when you need hot water back on in the day. Another job well done there PB!
Great vid mate! Still not convinced with pressfit lmao. Hows the late night sunday job going?
Just got two radiators left to pipe
Do you guys deal with soft poop stoppages alot
I have just finished my level 2 diploma in plumbing and waiting to go back to college in September to complete my level 3 to become full qualified, I have a another job getting in the hours before I go back to college and I am not sure what do to now, any advice? I have my CSCS card and waiting for my driving test which Is booked in November.
Anywhere taking on? I am based on Merseyside will work anywhere in the North West, I have hands on experience and have my own tools and 23 years old.
If you'd have just had they cakes..... You would have chucked that boiler in the van yourself 😂
Hahah true
Hi Pete, not sure if I'm missing something, but how are you getting on with that job that is your biggest so far, any updated vids?
We are back there on Monday for a week I will do another live walk around next week mate
Vaillant & Glow-Worm filters, come with only one isolating valve. If you don't stick one on both sides. what's the point!
If you fit it close to the boiler you can just use the boiler iso valve 👍
@@steowens8243 Yes, Ste, all well and good on a Combi. No good for Heat only, or System Boilers. Plus any time served installer, wouldn't what to mess about with Flow/Return Values. If they are a few years old. ☹
@@kevind7150 ah shit yh completely forgot about heat only boilers tbf 😆
So you were able to get away without air vents then on the goal posts between the boiler and the 2 ports, were you concerned about that?
finally for Ben on camera 😂
He’s gonna be furious when he sees this 😬
Brilliant
Glad your back use to watch your videos last year but you dropped off for a bit
Hi Sam, stick with it. Quick question, why the left hand drive?
It’s right hand drive mate, just the way the camera is flipped 😂
Hi what boots are you wearing ??
Why no tank stat?
What diamond core drill do you use?
We used Ben’s Makita
Have you ever thought of doing commercial ?? You don’t have the worry of getting Mrs Smiths heating on after a boiler change by the end of the day, and there’s money to be made............ just wondering 😁
Love your videos but due to epilepsy I couldn't carry on as the flashing was bad
Calm down it was his finger 😂😂
The kitchen light was struggling to start I think I turned it off after a while, sorry
Do not use green and yellow as anything other than cpc (earth). You cannot use the green and yellow and sleeve it with brown sleeving .
Why not?
@@mynameis9739 it doesn't comply with the wiring regulations. If I the future someone comes along and alters the wiring or replaces any component parts they may not realise that the cpc has been used as a live conductor and connect to another cpc or grounded connection or metal exposed part leaving a dangerous situation.
@@dennisphoenix1 thanks for that I was taught that you can use the cpc so long as it was sleeved
@@mynameis9739 it was common practice years ago but is non compliant. Normally regulations are changed because something happened ( normally a death ) that an investigation shows the cause to be a bad practice or anomaly In the regs
All cables must be earthed, even if there is no earth in the stat, the cable must be earthed at the other end.
Are you an electrician as Well pb?😀
Definitely not with using a Green/Yellow conductor as a line conductor and no provision for a CPC at the room stat. Contrary to BS7671
the only conductor that cannot be over sleeved is the earth conductor , leave electrics to electricians
Instrumentally power theme music
where is the bypass
Between the flow and return before the two two ports
Drain off?
Drain off at the low point where we connected onto the old system and on a Vaillant both the flow and return valves on the boiler have drain cocks built in
I'm really confused why you don't look after your knees.
Hate those old honey well wiring centres use the Drayton large ones much better
👍
Hopefully you used metal clips inside your plastic trunking over the door to ensure that you comply with the latest wiring regs :-)
I'm mor worried about him using an earth cable as a power supply
Great video, been watching your videos for quite some time, please go back to soldering 🙏 looks so much better than press, and your good at it so why fix something that’s not broke, it also is what set you apart from the other plumbers on TH-cam, we won’t mention who 😂👍
tell sam. the reason they have hotels is so you dont have to travel
I have a 2 year old at home mate.. it’s worth travelling back otherwise I’d never see him
@@samlowe6814 I have a daughter that's 6 and I worked away Mon to Friday since before she was born. Some times things need to be done to provide for the family. And the time we do spend together at weekends means so much more
My partner works late shifts in order to provide while I do this course.. so I have to be home to watch my little boy. We’ve got it covered
Cant believe vaillant still make that terrible stand off frame
What don’t you like about it mate?
@@PBPlumber they are massive and push the boiler way to far out , they dont come built and they never line up with the boiler case
@@accesszero4803 I’m glad you’re not the only one who don’t like them Ian !it’s quite a flimsy stand-off bracket and as you say they don’t line up properly with the boiler but mind you the vaillant boilers are not what they used to be .10-15 years agoThey were much better
Eat the cakes.
One life pete.
I want to go thru this life with 6 pack abs tho 😅
You'll burn it off. Gym and ya job.
Like a zero kkal doughnut to you.
Also gainzzzzzzz💪
🤘🤓🤘
At risk of sounding like an idiot , shouldn’t there be some air vents above the highest point at it’s going up and down ?
There’s a de-airator on the flow we had no issues with air filling up 🤜🏽🤛🏽
On gravity systems with a F&E in the loft you have low pressure filling the system and air locks can form . This job was a sealed system so pressurised from the mains .
Cool, love the comments learn a lot cheers lads
@@jackthompson2600 you did raise a fair point and on gravity systems you would need air vents at high spots .
Video reported due to intro. How disgusting flashing your private parts. I'm disgusted that TH-cam have allowed this to be posted.
The trouble with you blokes is that you never show up and you charge too much!☹️
What a shitty comment gail.
@@EliteHydronics. . Not at all. In all my 77 years I have not had a plumber who came when he
said he would and some have not showed up at all. One company recently wanted £178 to look at water
hammer in my bathroom. So don’t say I make shitty comments thank you. Plumbers need rot get their
shitty way of working together.
@@gailcrowe727 never learnt any manners in 77 years huh