1. we still kill the old way 00:00 2. to hell we ride 04:26 3. the fake sound of progess 09:10 4. wake up (make a move) 13:58 5. last summer 18:20 6. last train home 24:28 7. start something 29:04 8. burn burn 32:20 9 shinobi vs dragon ninja 36:44
@@magdelenacloutier7523 are you insinuating that the post author has got a weakness similar to that of raping babies? Not cool. His actions cannot be justified.
So true the world is a shithole now, i often think about how happy and care free / different the world was during the 90's / 2000's. @@magdelenacloutier7523
@@p0rnstarguardian.qiyanadude, you really think they went along with that shit? Come on man, people are very good at hiding things, even from their husbands/wives. As soon as they leave the stage/ tour, they go their separate ways and live their separate lives. If they were a part of it or even knew, they would have been implicated by the authorities.
This album (Start Something) was my absolute safe place as a teenager when I felt so lost in the world ... And now because of Ian's situation I feel like even this safe place wasn't fucking safe
JOsh Oliveri Christ - I had no idea! You have simultaneously opened my eyes and ruined my childhood.. but at least I didn't get raped in the process so things are lookin up.
After the second album this band lost the compass becoming some kind of alternative rock glamour band, I think was the reason why this drummer left he wanted to stay more rocky and then that happened to Ian, what a madnees!!
Ryan Johnson Definately, TFSOP was such a good record and Start Something was pure gold, what I hated the most was that they even changed the way they dressed, honestly after Liberation Transmission I just stopped listening to their albums. It’s a shame how everything ended.
@@ryanjohnson2934 here's my take Fake sound - good debut but a bit forgettable Something - masterpiece LT - best album by them, full on perfect Betrayed - good but very forgettable and lazy hooks Weapons - same as betrayed
TFSoP and Start Something are masterpieces, and they had that sick nu metal skater drip in the old days. The gayer their fashion choices got, the gayer their music got.
Seeing this guy, killing it with the mic and just living the moment, it still feels so surreal that he did something so morbid that ended up killing the band and his image.
Yep back in the day these guys were indestructable they really were a stand out out of so many rock bands its so sad the sky was the limit for these guys.
we cant denie how all this guys were so talented and ahead of their time, yes it ashame for what ian did, but this is band help me alot growing up cant simply hate just bc of a member
1. we still kill the old way 2. to hell we ride 3. the fake sound of progess 4. wake up (make a move) 5. last summer 6. last train home 7. start something 8. burn burn 9 shinobi vs dragon ninja
I saw a comment that drugs screwed Ian’s voice up enough that 2004 was the only time his live performances weren’t pitchy. I’ve slowly worked my way back from the year he was arrested and it seems true. Even starting in 2008 his stage presence and vocal accuracy dropped drastically every year until their last show.
Tbf vocalists' voices often get worse over time even if they don't drink or do drugs. Shouting/screaming just kind of butchers your vocal cords even if you use good technique
He wasn't doing drugs in 2004, nor his sex crimes apparently, he was doing it all for the fame, it wasn't until 2006-2007 when the downward spiral started, and he was then taking drugs on a daily basis, and using his fame to groom and abuse his young fans, and infants brang from those mothers...
I would say he peaked in 2006-7, given how challenging many Lostprophets songs are to sing, especially on Start Something and Liberation Transmission…I would say that circa 2004 Ian was about on par with Jared Leto and Matt Bellamy as a singer-and by 2006-7 he had a considerable advantage (slightly stronger belting range than Leto and far stronger than Bellamy, as well as having a pretty good falsetto range superior to that of Leto (though still not yet on the same level as what Matt Bellamy had given that Bellamy was basically GOD in the falsetto/pharyngeal register and could pull F5-A5 falsettos since 1999)). Really Ian just needed to stay off the drugs and get help-and he could have taken his singing to the next level…
And many songs on The Betrayed were likely recorded BEFORE the drugs REALLY started to wreck Ian’s voice, so the band ended up with a bunch of songs that sounded great in the studio, but were way too difficult live…
Lostprophets foi uma das primeiras bandas de rock que ouvi. Boa vibração. Início dos anos 2000. Eu tinha uns 15 anos. Esse cara cruel destruiu a banda. Eu ouço, mas não consigo mais ouvir um álbum inteiro. Triste... :( Lostprophets was one of the first rock bands I heard. Good vibration. Early 2000s. I was about 15 years old. This cruel guy destroyed the band. I listen but I can't listen to an entire album anymore. Sad... :(
@@Punkingamesss e pensar que essa banda nos dias atuais poderia ser gigante, e hoje dar vergonha de falar que gosta pq se alguém pesquisar já mostra as atitudes doentias do vocal
it sucks I feel guilty each time I am listening to that band. Fuck that guy. I had a bar early 2000 and I could play their shit non-stop, it was hit on hit and crowd love it so much especially Last Train Home. God, that was a fucking anthem, beer was flying everywhere......
Even if they are brilliant live. The recorded sets online always sound poor. Not this one though. It translated well. They sound good. Jamie absolutely kills it! Its nice to hear a recording where his mic seems to be at the right level! He is so under appreciated! A set list of TFSOP and Star Something songs is where it is at! It is a shame I never got to see them play Start Something live (seen them six times). However I did get to see them play We Are Godzilla. On multiple occasions. So I guess it makes up for it.
Are you fuckn kidding? Jamie Oliver - as awful as his mockney chef namesake - was the most grating element of this band with his faux-metal frontman shouty appalling backing racket. Absolute shite. Bet he visits Watkins.
His empty eyes... Back in the day it was impossible to spot any misbehaviour or corruption into him, but now, knowing what he did... You can tell there is something wrong with him which is a shame because we would be preparing for what could have been the 20th anniversary of "Start Something".
Dude… how many times I gotta apologize!? I didn’t know you couldn’t take a shit in a lead singers mouth! And i wouldn’t say it “ruined” the show. You’re being a little melodramatic
Great band love the music hate the singer as a person big difference people always hate the band cause of Wut he did well the music is damn good and the singer is a sicko but don’t compare the two don’t hate the music cause of the the singer
Him and the band were definitely taking advantage of underaged fan girls in the early-mid 2000s. The baby stuff I believe not to have occurred during this time so he was a slightly better person in 2004 I guess
Every time I listen to this band I'm struck by how good the band is and what a weedy non descript singer Watkins's actually was. My other and more important thought is, how well are the kids he abused going to adjust should they ever find out what happened to them?
Breaks my heart thinking about them kids. Quite a lot of them will remember what he did to them - the 4/5 yos and I think a 13yo he knew quite well too.
@@peters5041Can’t speak exactly for what OP was trying to say, but some people believe that the prison system should do absolutely everything to rehabilitate prisoners. In the US- most of our prisoners regardless of offense end up right back in prison because the system is meant to keep them there and makes them even worse when they leave. I personally would love to see a justice system that always works for rehabilitation & prevention. I think most people would- in order to prevent people like Ian to reaching these levels of depravity. Remember that as disgusting as it is- pedophilia is indeed a mental illness that can be treated properly. There are a couple places in the US trying to work towards creating a system like this. Germany has been working for years to treat people who struggle with those urges, I believe it’s called Project Dunkelfeld? Forgive my spelling if that’s incorrect. A lot of these treatments have showed tons of promise and good results. Maybe they were asking Ian to do his absolute best in any capacity to try to make amends even though his crimes are absolutely despicable? I suppose giving money to sexual assault charities, to the victims families, etc. would be maybe what they’re thinking? Dedicating his life to fighting SA maybe? Again, I’m only taking guesses. This is me genuinely trying to interpret in good faith what they mean by this.
Wow! Joking or you’re actually serious? 🤔 That’s definitely a list of absolute shit, wannabe rock “music” Surprised you didn’t add Nickelback to this God- awful list 👎🏼 But Limp Bizkit makes up for not adding them 🤢😖 Sorry you listened to those bands
So...Lostprophets have never produced good music just because Ian raped a baby? Lostprophets is not a great band just because of Ian? It is not fair to the rest of the members. Just enjoy the music and respect the ENTIRE BAND! If you want to blame Ian for what he's done, just visit the jail and tell Ian "Fuck you". THE BAND IS INNOCENT!
this is true. but as a guy with kids, one of which being a young daughter, i have a hard time listening to this band anymore because of it. its really unfortunate because they used to be one of my favorites. I've tried several times, but i cant stop thinking about my kids, and that feeling of if anyone tried to do anything like that to them, how quickly i would be able to kill the shit out of them.
The band wlnt play the music. Which is a shame. Not with NO Devotion their new name. Maybe the PC culture backlash concerns them. It shouldnt. People like Michael Jackson and its no secret that dude was guilty as Hell. These guys made great records. Literally the Betrayed was good but the lesser effort. The rest were outstanding. It be awesome if they played with a different singer. On that the people respected. This Leto. Or the dude from Bayside.
THIS cant stand reading the comments. Almost nobody says "great band, great music, performance etc" NO in EVERY sentence theres a BUT ian was a sicko or sth else. wtf is wrong with people :DDDDD
Man, when I see this I'm so conflicted. Everything about this is so good, the energy, the music and performance. But on the other side the things Ian did and was planning to do makes me sick. Whatever happened to the other band members?
Jamie still has art n a fitness trainer. Lee and Stuart are in No Devotion and stu plays for Thursday now. Jocko has a band and stu is a producer. Mike manages bands. I still play their catalogue for the other five guys that deserve all the happiness and success x
@@ImaginaryAsh his bass was out of tune, so he switched it off to tune. You can hear it during the verse how out it is, and you can kinda see him run to the side to tune. Pretty smooth recovery all things considered!
@@millennialwhoop would love to see ppl appreciate this man and his music etc like you do... all they say is about what he did. ofc its sick but we dont even know any background and.. this is not the place to always blame him here and there. just appreciate and listen to the music ffs :D
@@kingo5940 eh, we know plenty of background, and it's pretty fuckin sick and gross. I don't appreciate the man so much as I do the band and the art they created together. Screw Ian forever, but goddamn these tunes are good!
@@millennialwhoop yes ians tunes, all his work :D and no i wouldnt say you know that much if you hate ian but not the band cause the band knew pretty well bout his hard drugs he took and about the things his ex gf went to police etc etc. nobody stopped him from anything. they just went with it. they only were angry at him when he didnt show up (which was unavoidable) they could have done sth and protected him and kids. he was sick and he needed rehab and medical help cause of psychological desease. but i diferentiate what ian did outside of the band from the music he made which yes you said it: are freaking good bro
Linkin Park Lostprophets The Used Story of the year yellowcard Nickelback Daughtry Hoobastank The Rasmus HIM Creed Hinder Audio slave Rise Against G.C. S.41 B.182
I think this band should reunite with Jamie Oliver as their lead singer... He's so much better than Ian live... Lostprophets name should prevail, beside Ian heinous acts...
I agree. The remaining members reformed as No devotion woth Thursday singer Geoff Rickly. I think you're right in that if Jamie sang the lostprophets hits once again instead of wantkids, that could be one hell of a reunion. But I guess we'll have to wait till wantkids gets "killed the old way" in prison.
if i was in lost prophets i just get a new singer. ian watkins did nothing he didn't write the songs or anything he was a front man ian dragged the band down its sad because they was a talented band. the thing is all the band members got effected by this.
That's what No Devotion was, though. They wanted to distance themselves from the image and music Ian made, can't do that if you're still playing AS Lost Prophets.
cal kane I think I do. You know, when he started to use drugs more and more, it was harder. Btw 16 year old girl would not be worst but 11 month child is fucking fail. xD
Mike Stanley I read the court transcript. That's the link for it if you want to read it but be warned it's beyond fucked up. Unbelievable stuff :( www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/JCO/Documents/Judgments/r-v-watkins-and-others.pdf
Dude, last Train Home takes me back to skateboarding in middle school. I'd jam out to this song on my first deployment, thinking about home. But nowadays hearing Ian’s voice makes me sick to my stomach.
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1. we still kill the old way 00:00
2. to hell we ride 04:26
3. the fake sound of progess 09:10
4. wake up (make a move) 13:58
5. last summer 18:20
6. last train home 24:28
7. start something 29:04
8. burn burn 32:20
9 shinobi vs dragon ninja 36:44
please never delete this video
Or delete it b/c this dude f@cks infants
Crazy how one evil man could ruin so much for so many. Still nostalgic to listen to, the early 2000s was a way better scene
@@magdelenacloutier7523 are you insinuating that the post author has got a weakness similar to that of raping babies? Not cool. His actions cannot be justified.
@@magdelenacloutier7523 that’s probably the dumbest thing I’ve read in a while
@@magdelenacloutier7523Leave him be??? FUCK NO for what he did. UNFORGIVABLE
So true the world is a shithole now, i often think about how happy and care free / different the world was during the 90's / 2000's. @@magdelenacloutier7523
wtf is wrong with you lol - are you also a sicko or what@@magdelenacloutier7523
I feel for the rest of the band that all of their hard work and accomplishment is overshadowed by Ian's decision to become a sicko!
But don't forget they kept silent when they knew there was something wrong with him
@@p0rnstarguardian.qiyana they didnt know and they said it themselves
@@p0rnstarguardian.qiyanadude, you really think they went along with that shit? Come on man, people are very good at hiding things, even from their husbands/wives. As soon as they leave the stage/ tour, they go their separate ways and live their separate lives. If they were a part of it or even knew, they would have been implicated by the authorities.
They knew
This album (Start Something) was my absolute safe place as a teenager when I felt so lost in the world ... And now because of Ian's situation I feel like even this safe place wasn't fucking safe
wrong album
Everything you love and know will become desecrated, by your actions, or the relentless dirty hands of time
😂😂😂😂😂
You dumb whites believe everything the police say
It was, it wasn’t until 2006/2007 when he started his depravity
I loved these guys when I was a kid, one of the first bands I discovered on my own in my quest to discover new music.
Jay Russo Luckily for you Ian Watkins loves kids.
JOsh Oliveri Christ - I had no idea! You have simultaneously opened my eyes and ruined my childhood.. but at least I didn't get raped in the process so things are lookin up.
Jay Russo I loved this band, everything about them. But when I realized what Ian Watkins was convicted of, I was disappointed.
Jay Russo he would of loved you too...........
1. would HAVE
2. Joke was already made 3 months ago.
After the second album this band lost the compass becoming some kind of alternative rock glamour band, I think was the reason why this drummer left he wanted to stay more rocky and then that happened to Ian, what a madnees!!
Ryan Johnson Definately, TFSOP was such a good record and Start Something was pure gold, what I hated the most was that they even changed the way they dressed, honestly after Liberation Transmission I just stopped listening to their albums. It’s a shame how everything ended.
@@ryanjohnson2934 here's my take
Fake sound - good debut but a bit forgettable
Something - masterpiece
LT - best album by them, full on perfect
Betrayed - good but very forgettable and lazy hooks
Weapons - same as betrayed
TFSoP and Start Something are masterpieces, and they had that sick nu metal skater drip in the old days. The gayer their fashion choices got, the gayer their music got.
The intro of last train home gives me goosebumps every damn time!
Seeing this guy, killing it with the mic and just living the moment, it still feels so surreal that he did something so morbid that ended up killing the band and his image.
but the music never stopped being great
The first two albums are still amazing, never stopped listening to them 😎
Whoop whoop 💯
the shinobi vs dragon ninja is epic af the crowd was going nutts
The keyboard guy’s screaming is out of this world !!
Thanks for the video, will be a 20 years anniversary next year 2024.
Ian is a sicko but this band will forever be a favorite of mine. Amazing songs and this live is just amazing.
I know this is 2 years late…but I was just thinking he really not only fucked up…but fucked his band.
They had great songs and could’ve been HUGE. Smh
Yep back in the day these guys were indestructable they really were a stand out out of so many rock bands its so sad the sky was the limit for these guys.
we cant denie how all this guys were so talented and ahead of their time, yes it ashame for what ian did, but this is band help me alot growing up cant simply hate just bc of a member
I couldn't agree more.
If you read the Cardiff Crown Court description of what he did to a 10 month old you will never listen to a lyric again.
1. we still kill the old way
2. to hell we ride
3. the fake sound of progess
4. wake up (make a move)
5. last summer
6. last train home
7. start something
8. burn burn
9 shinobi vs dragon ninja
You forgot:
Baby raper
Егор Цыба Because this show was in 2004. Those were the only albums out at the time. Liberation Transmission didn’t release for another 2 years.
I saw a comment that drugs screwed Ian’s voice up enough that 2004 was the only time his live performances weren’t pitchy. I’ve slowly worked my way back from the year he was arrested and it seems true. Even starting in 2008 his stage presence and vocal accuracy dropped drastically every year until their last show.
Tbf vocalists' voices often get worse over time even if they don't drink or do drugs. Shouting/screaming just kind of butchers your vocal cords even if you use good technique
He wasn't doing drugs in 2004, nor his sex crimes apparently, he was doing it all for the fame, it wasn't until 2006-2007 when the downward spiral started, and he was then taking drugs on a daily basis, and using his fame to groom and abuse his young fans, and infants brang from those mothers...
I would say he peaked in 2006-7, given how challenging many Lostprophets songs are to sing, especially on Start Something and Liberation Transmission…I would say that circa 2004 Ian was about on par with Jared Leto and Matt Bellamy as a singer-and by 2006-7 he had a considerable advantage (slightly stronger belting range than Leto and far stronger than Bellamy, as well as having a pretty good falsetto range superior to that of Leto (though still not yet on the same level as what Matt Bellamy had given that Bellamy was basically GOD in the falsetto/pharyngeal register and could pull F5-A5 falsettos since 1999)). Really Ian just needed to stay off the drugs and get help-and he could have taken his singing to the next level…
And many songs on The Betrayed were likely recorded BEFORE the drugs REALLY started to wreck Ian’s voice, so the band ended up with a bunch of songs that sounded great in the studio, but were way too difficult live…
It's September 01,2020 who's with me?
Yeah music is amazing but Watkins is a disgrace...
More like: Yeah Watkins is a disgrace but the music is amazing
Always will be 97 - 04 was a quality sound.
B
It's September 01,2024
6 years later and still can’t get over what he did 💔
I would hope so!! If you’re a human being with a soul- you should definitely feel that way! Even worse!
Lostprophets foi uma das primeiras bandas de rock que ouvi. Boa vibração. Início dos anos 2000. Eu tinha uns 15 anos. Esse cara cruel destruiu a banda. Eu ouço, mas não consigo mais ouvir um álbum inteiro. Triste... :(
Lostprophets was one of the first rock bands I heard. Good vibration. Early 2000s. I was about 15 years old. This cruel guy destroyed the band. I listen but I can't listen to an entire album anymore. Sad... :(
Era uma das minhas bandas favoritas, até hoje é. O Ian que se dane, o resto da banda podia continuar, no devotion é bem ruim, já ouviu?
@@NegociosSemEstresse ouvi sim. Curti não. :(
@@marcosgermano1422 achei muito ruim também, mas tem a lowlives, banda do baterista do Lostprophets, essa é legal.
@@NegociosSemEstresse é ruim mesmo, acabaram com a banda
@@Punkingamesss e pensar que essa banda nos dias atuais poderia ser gigante, e hoje dar vergonha de falar que gosta pq se alguém pesquisar já mostra as atitudes doentias do vocal
Songs fucking good, just the lead singer's sick as hell. How could it happen?
+Patch Ani, il mostro di Fi-Renzi Italiano, si? Life throws up all probabilities.
Patch Ani, il mostro di Fi-Renzi drugs made it happen
Patch Ani, il mostro di Fi-Renzi Aahahahahagah ma che cazzo di nick hai ahaahha grande.
Pretty clear the dj could have sang for them
hella talented.
This band was my 2005 and 2006 emo era. Good tines. Im a dad now with kids. How times change
it sucks I feel guilty each time I am listening to that band. Fuck that guy. I had a bar early 2000 and I could play their shit non-stop, it was hit on hit and crowd love it so much especially Last Train Home. God, that was a fucking anthem, beer was flying everywhere......
Even if they are brilliant live. The recorded sets online always sound poor. Not this one though. It translated well. They sound good. Jamie absolutely kills it! Its nice to hear a recording where his mic seems to be at the right level! He is so under appreciated!
A set list of TFSOP and Star Something songs is where it is at! It is a shame I never got to see them play Start Something live (seen them six times). However I did get to see them play We Are Godzilla. On multiple occasions. So I guess it makes up for it.
No i can hardly hear Jaime and that's a shame
Are you fuckn kidding? Jamie Oliver - as awful as his mockney chef namesake - was the most grating element of this band with his faux-metal frontman shouty appalling backing racket. Absolute shite. Bet he visits Watkins.
Buen concierto de mi banda favorita.
God... i wish i was old enough back then.. wish i was there...
Same
His empty eyes... Back in the day it was impossible to spot any misbehaviour or corruption into him, but now, knowing what he did... You can tell there is something wrong with him which is a shame because we would be preparing for what could have been the 20th anniversary of "Start Something".
Dat Snare..
Thought I was the only one noticed.
t i g h t
Yo los conoci jugando NFS under...
Ya son casi 20 años y escuchar de nuevo ese albun es obra de arte
Ultimo tren a casa ....adolescencia desbloqueado💔
The singer would of loved to f@ck the adolescence out of you.
Lostprophets were famous in India Manipur. My bro bought Start Something cassette album.. Miss those days! ✌️
Mike Chiplin was killing it on the drums
Yeah, one of my the most favourite drummer of all times. But some parts he speeds up and than slows down, but his drumming was sick.
Hell yeah. His sudden exit I'm convinced was because he knew Ian was a nonce
@@Wollaston123 nah, it was family reasons.
He did an interview in 05’ on why he left. he apparently also married Ian’s sister btw lol.
If sappenin does another podcadt in this i would hope they get him on there. Stu has been vocal but mike is directly attached. @trashcrashjay
@@jaytrax34Welsh people are a different breed 😂
Sempre me sinto culpado em escutar, mas foi foda! Marcou minha adolescência.
this is fucking awesome though, shame one guy could ruin it all
он любитель тянок)
Dude… how many times I gotta apologize!? I didn’t know you couldn’t take a shit in a lead singers mouth! And i wouldn’t say it “ruined” the show. You’re being a little melodramatic
Great band love the music hate the singer as a person big difference people always hate the band cause of Wut he did well the music is damn good and the singer is a sicko but don’t compare the two don’t hate the music cause of the the singer
Fuck the singer, and fuck his amoral anthems that reflect his personal life.. Needs his brains blown out in front of all his adult fans..
I just wish I could listen to these tunes without feeling sick
Miss these guys.
+Passtschon No Devotion dude
+Nerijus G. not really the same though
+Scott Johnson (Snxff) My thoughts exactly.
The Biggest release of anger I've ever had ❤❤❤❤❤
The drum fill at 36:50 🤯🤯
The energy was amazing, Ian was the best to harangue the crowd.
At that time he was a good guy
lmao no he wasnt
@@canwetalkbeats6735 so he was fucked even back then? lol
You’re clearly either very uninformed or pretty fkn delusional. He most def was a horrible human, even then. For a proven fact.
@@canwetalkbeats6735 fr ive seen orchestras harder then this
Him and the band were definitely taking advantage of underaged fan girls in the early-mid 2000s. The baby stuff I believe not to have occurred during this time so he was a slightly better person in 2004 I guess
What a fucking good drummer!
Songs and the performance r great it’s just the singer who people have issues with
Such a shame. Incredible performance from a great band. 👊👏👏👏
You choose your own poison..
Every time I listen to this band I'm struck by how good the band is and what a weedy non descript singer Watkins's actually was. My other and more important thought is, how well are the kids he abused going to adjust should they ever find out what happened to them?
Breaks my heart thinking about them kids. Quite a lot of them will remember what he did to them - the 4/5 yos and I think a 13yo he knew quite well too.
а мне главное музыка. и всё равно что он сделал)
Peak lostprophets
Ian is a bad person but that doesn't mean his music is bad too
No, that’s just a coincidence
@@alexholbourn5724 and you have room to talk? Clown fuck
I dont care much about ian but the music is amazing regardless
At that time, his voice was so good at live. I miss this band! Ian, you had everything, why? Amend your mistakes.
Amend!? How!?
@@peters5041, respect my freedom of expression.
@@MilaHeisenberg I do, just want you to elaborate further on what you have expressed in your comment.
How do you "amend" that?
@@peters5041Can’t speak exactly for what OP was trying to say, but some people believe that the prison system should do absolutely everything to rehabilitate prisoners. In the US- most of our prisoners regardless of offense end up right back in prison because the system is meant to keep them there and makes them even worse when they leave. I personally would love to see a justice system that always works for rehabilitation & prevention. I think most people would- in order to prevent people like Ian to reaching these levels of depravity. Remember that as disgusting as it is- pedophilia is indeed a mental illness that can be treated properly. There are a couple places in the US trying to work towards creating a system like this. Germany has been working for years to treat people who struggle with those urges, I believe it’s called Project Dunkelfeld? Forgive my spelling if that’s incorrect. A lot of these treatments have showed tons of promise and good results.
Maybe they were asking Ian to do his absolute best in any capacity to try to make amends even though his crimes are absolutely despicable? I suppose giving money to sexual assault charities, to the victims families, etc. would be maybe what they’re thinking? Dedicating his life to fighting SA maybe? Again, I’m only taking guesses. This is me genuinely trying to interpret in good faith what they mean by this.
Independently of what that monster did, I can’t stop listening Start Something. Music is a paradox.
Linkin Park, Lost Prophets, Limp Bizkit and Minus the Bear were all I was listening in 2004.
anddd korn
Never Heard about this last one, thanks for sharing!.
And Hoobastank!
@@MIKER4ZOR "I'm not a..... perfect... persoooooooooon"
Wow! Joking or you’re actually serious? 🤔 That’s definitely a list of absolute shit, wannabe rock “music”
Surprised you didn’t add Nickelback to this God- awful list 👎🏼 But Limp Bizkit makes up for not adding them 🤢😖
Sorry you listened to those bands
36:43 holy shit that song would be so awesome to see live
On my opinion he was right and clean but then he sadly became part of the mk ultra shit program
That killer dad shirt took on a whole new meaning...
It's a Killradio shirt
Though Ian is not a very good man, this music is sick. I appreciate this band!
‘Not a very good man’ is possibly the understatement of the century.
@@jimmylad7358 just a bit flawed
Made a few mistakes
@@Ajox191 partook in some less than kosher activities.
@@Ajox191 getting caught?
Minus Ian deeds, this band really rocked hard!
Despite what he did this is a masterpiece
Yeah... masterpieces outflank baby rape, phew!
So...Lostprophets have never produced good music just because Ian raped a baby?
Lostprophets is not a great band just because of Ian?
It is not fair to the rest of the members.
Just enjoy the music and respect the ENTIRE BAND!
If you want to blame Ian for what he's done, just visit the jail and tell Ian "Fuck you".
THE BAND IS INNOCENT!
Wing O i agree with you. whatever happened, their music was really good!
this is true. but as a guy with kids, one of which being a young daughter, i have a hard time listening to this band anymore because of it. its really unfortunate because they used to be one of my favorites. I've tried several times, but i cant stop thinking about my kids, and that feeling of if anyone tried to do anything like that to them, how quickly i would be able to kill the shit out of them.
The band wlnt play the music. Which is a shame. Not with NO Devotion their new name. Maybe the PC culture backlash concerns them. It shouldnt. People like Michael Jackson and its no secret that dude was guilty as Hell. These guys made great records. Literally the Betrayed was good but the lesser effort. The rest were outstanding. It be awesome if they played with a different singer. On that the people respected. This Leto. Or the dude from Bayside.
Can't agree more!!!
Well said. #TheWord
THIS cant stand reading the comments. Almost nobody says "great band, great music, performance etc" NO in EVERY sentence theres a BUT ian was a sicko or sth else. wtf is wrong with people :DDDDD
Quien los escucha en el 2023 ❤
38:28 the amp is marked 'Nickelback' lol
lol
They were probably playing next... ???
And you're a nobody so no one cares.
This is what kills me. Look here. Look how good. Yet...
Sighs
just glad that i can here them live. wish i was old enough back then :D
2021?
Man, when I see this I'm so conflicted. Everything about this is so good, the energy, the music and performance. But on the other side the things Ian did and was planning to do makes me sick.
Whatever happened to the other band members?
They formed a new band but it’s not very good.
Jamie still has art n a fitness trainer. Lee and Stuart are in No Devotion and stu plays for Thursday now. Jocko has a band and stu is a producer. Mike manages bands. I still play their catalogue for the other five guys that deserve all the happiness and success x
the breakdown in shinobi still goes fucking hard , not ashamed to say it
Disgusting what the singer Ian did and it's a god damn shame that this unbelievably talented group of guys had their careers ended bc of him.
Well, the band's name speaks for itself. They've definitely lost their profits
This guy had everything would he commit unthinkable evil like that ?
2020? Somebody?
Unfortunately
2021
@@MrDotR Are you from Russia?
Man, Jamie was on form here.
It's true, but even at his peak he was the keyboard player and backup singer for Lostprophets
24:17〜❣️
最高！
absolutely wow!!
Looking for handsome life of swing live, Anybody?
Type in lostprophets 2002. It’s the opening song of one of those I forget which
I just wish there was a world where he didnt do it and I kindoff get into this world listening to lostprophets and thats deffanetely not good
23:50 and thats how you control the crowd...
just like the kids
26:53 the bass turned off, ian hides the sound failure
I noticed that. I wonder what happened there.
@@ImaginaryAsh his bass was out of tune, so he switched it off to tune. You can hear it during the verse how out it is, and you can kinda see him run to the side to tune. Pretty smooth recovery all things considered!
@@millennialwhoop would love to see ppl appreciate this man and his music etc like you do... all they say is about what he did. ofc its sick but we dont even know any background and.. this is not the place to always blame him here and there. just appreciate and listen to the music ffs :D
@@kingo5940 eh, we know plenty of background, and it's pretty fuckin sick and gross. I don't appreciate the man so much as I do the band and the art they created together. Screw Ian forever, but goddamn these tunes are good!
@@millennialwhoop yes ians tunes, all his work :D and no i wouldnt say you know that much if you hate ian but not the band cause the band knew pretty well bout his hard drugs he took and about the things his ex gf went to police etc etc. nobody stopped him from anything. they just went with it. they only were angry at him when he didnt show up (which was unavoidable) they could have done sth and protected him and kids. he was sick and he needed rehab and medical help cause of psychological desease. but i diferentiate what ian did outside of the band from the music he made which yes you said it: are freaking good bro
Ian wantkids
yep..
Fucking miss this band so much!$
Linkin Park
Lostprophets
The Used
Story of the year
yellowcard
Nickelback
Daughtry
Hoobastank
The Rasmus
HIM
Creed
Hinder
Audio slave
Rise Against
G.C.
S.41
B.182
この時が一番、かっこいい！
One of the best new age bands! such amazing songs and albums..One sick f*ck had to ruin it for the band and the fans
COME TO AUSTRALIA!!!
They were in their prime 😢
Would love to hear these songs live now with a different singer. He was hardly the greatest vocalist. Some really good songs wasted
monkeywaster I’m glad someone finally said it. He was an average singer at best.
I really wish they continued with Jamie on lead vocals
@@zeroeffects88 but with a similar voice pls, his voice just fitted so well to their tracks. even tho he didnt sing perfect
Never really understood why Ian was considered a sex symbol in the rock genre. He's always reminded me of a methed out Barry Manilow.
Even Chad Kroeger probably has been considered one....:P
I mean he was a sex symbol for the absolute wrong reason. What a fucking monster
😅
Got damn shame this guy ruined it for so many people. The prison system will take care of him
As hard as I try to listen to him, I can't. This man is disgusting, hope he rots in prison forever.
Una de mi bandas favoritas ♥️🔥
I think this band should reunite with Jamie Oliver as their lead singer...
He's so much better than Ian live...
Lostprophets name should prevail, beside Ian heinous acts...
I agree. The remaining members reformed as No devotion woth Thursday singer Geoff Rickly. I think you're right in that if Jamie sang the lostprophets hits once again instead of wantkids, that could be one hell of a reunion. But I guess we'll have to wait till wantkids gets "killed the old way" in prison.
I don’t know how this still got pushed to me, but I remember the time when bands used to copy them😂 They really were iconic for a time.
36:50 chills
Anyone knows where i can get a digital or physical copy of this set?
just download it off youtube ?
внезапно :D
bass sound comes so cool.
gracias pir este tokin paso años 💔
SICK MAN
He had it all. And 10 years later he was sitting in a jail cell
I was here.
if i was in lost prophets i just get a new singer. ian watkins did nothing he didn't write the songs or anything he was a front man ian dragged the band down its sad because they was a talented band. the thing is all the band members got effected by this.
That's what No Devotion was, though. They wanted to distance themselves from the image and music Ian made, can't do that if you're still playing AS Lost Prophets.
J o n a t h a n he did write the songs actually, all the lyrics were his
Actualy he even recorded the drums in two albums and wrote all the lyrics... But it's a shame for all the fans
Yeah they are a band of kid fuckers. Birds of s feather.
he did write the songs, just guess why the band after his loss never achieved anything lol :DDD
Ian probably getting cornholed right now
He was clear at this time.
Mike Stanley You think he was just a normal guy and then 2007 hits and he suddenly starts abusing 16 year old girls?
cal kane I think I do. You know, when he started to use drugs more and more, it was harder.
Btw 16 year old girl would not be worst but 11 month child is fucking fail. xD
Mike Stanley He pissed in the girl's face and told her to drink it.
cal kane Oh, how do u know that?
Mike Stanley I read the court transcript. That's the link for it if you want to read it but be warned it's beyond fucked up. Unbelievable stuff :(
www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/JCO/Documents/Judgments/r-v-watkins-and-others.pdf
Dude, last Train Home takes me back to skateboarding in middle school. I'd jam out to this song on my first deployment, thinking about home. But nowadays hearing Ian’s voice makes me sick to my stomach.
The crowd at the start of Last Train Home