When I was a kid, I started making Star Wars 'movies' with my 8mm camera and Star Wars action figures, and Lego, lol. My next door neighbour friend ( here in Toronto ) started helping me, and we made 'The Empire Strikes Back' in my basement, using lots of flour, cardboard ships and more action figures. I gave up on making movies but my friend kept it up. Eventually he ended up working for ILM and became the supervising animator for Jar Jar Binks! How cool is that.
Darth Jar Jar was a 100% intended plot twist that was quietly shelved. I'll never be convinced otherwise. There was no reason to animate him whispering words in Phantom Menace.
@@jayyarbrough9902 jup I think the same. Dooku was added after ep1. And jarjar binks public response was bad. Its cool to think Ep3 could have had a big showdown between palpatine and jar jar to decide who would become emperor. Id pay to watch that fight
Just imagine if Jar Jar pulled a Reverse Flash on Palpatine. "You'sha thought it was you'sha was the Puppet Mastera, but it was'a me'sha Sidious, IT WAS ME'SA PULLING YOUR'SA STRINGS!!!" Sidious-"no, No, NOOO!"
Also, in Phantom Menace, Jar Jar tries to take food from a vendor on Tatooine... who asked if he was going to pay for it and telling him the price in the language of the Hutts. If he were really a bumbling fool from a backwater world, he wouldn't have understood the language... or the price. His reaction showed he understood perfectly well.
He forced anakin to intervene similar to when palp let windu win. Both situations forced anakin to “choose his path” both were the true births of Jedi skywalker and darth Vader. Anakin would’ve gone unnoticed without jar jar doing that, if that never happens Qui gon never steps foot into anakin’s house meaning he would never be convinced by his mother to let anakin race.
@eeveeofalltrades4780 While I agree Huttese is common, Naboo is far from Hut space on the map, and the Gungans seem quite insular, if not xenophobic. They barely speak Basic, most likely because they are uninterested in outsiders and outside events, not due to a lack of capability. I could be wrong, but I find it unlikely any Gungan would know the language unless they left the planet. There isn't much evidence of anyone contacting them aside from the Naboo.
When Jar Jar was banned from the underwater city, people were SCARED of him.. they didn't think of him as pest they thought of him as a threat. I've always found that really strange. What the hell was Jar Jar doing out i the middle of nowhere when Qui and Obi found him? He never got that answer either.
@@Pid75 No, No, it is completely "Sithy". Qui Gon believes Jar Jar is so weak minded, That he uses the absolute miniscule amount of the force to tell Binks to "get out of here" Watch that scene again and watch Qui Gons right hand make a barely perceptible motion. Then watch Binks quick rebuttal with a hand motion. When they are going through Naboos core, Binks asks where they are going to which Jinn says the force will guide us. Tell me that Jar Jars response isn't a back handed rebuff of what he thinks of the force
Another point often brought up is Lucas' great love of Asimov's Foundation stories, which were a major inspiration to his development of Star Wars. In it there is the character of The Mule, a bumbling idiot, a jester figure, just like Jar Jar, who turns out to be the great leader they are all fighting against, his persona being a mask to fool everyone around him. Just like Jar Jar.
I 100% believe this theory was legit. What always comes back to my mind is the infamous George Lucas meme of "it's like poetry, it rhymes" Jar-Jar was the anti-Yoda. Yoda was also a rather annoying character initially, but revealed to be extremely powerful, Jar-Jar is just the concept flipped, and fleshed out more. Had it been stuck with, I think it would have worked in the end.
well cause they couldn't - that's the one and ONLY character KK decided to "protect" for George's legacy 😂but seriously god forbid them to try it now - cause it will be too little too late and will only hurt more...but yeah it DEF should've been Darth Jar Jar instead of cloned Palps for sure! I mean really Darth Jar Jar should've been revealed somewhere at the end of Revenge of the Sith but I digress. Oh but another miss in the sequel trilogy was Snoke. He def should've have been revealed as Mace Windu. So two entirely HUGE misses that would've kept Star Wars alive and well.
That would have actually made these movies interesting. Maybe not redeemed it, but actually done something interesting that took guts and would have been respectable.
Theory: He's actually Plagueis, who is rumored to have been alive during the first movie. Jar jar finds an apprentice from the same planet (Palp) and together they create Anakin. He then goes on the trip to Naboo to personally oversee the mission. There he influences critical events like the bet with Watto to make sure Anakin is extracted properly. In this movie I think he's supposed to be the Phantom Menace. The question at the end asking if Maul was the master or apprentice (while focusing camera on Palp) is a bit of a red herring since there's actually three of them. I like to think DJJ was supposed to have been revealed in Aotc after giving emergency powers to Palp, but was replaced by Dooku (some argue his spaceship even resembles a Gungan). The full reveal at the end of the movie with him igniting a red light saber would have been epic. The rest of the story could have been the same with Palp ultimately betraying him in Rots by ordering Anakin to strike. He'd lose the duel on purpose thinking Palp would follow the script. While the betrayal doesn't happen in his sleep in this version I'd find it just as "ironic" for him to be killed by his own creation. When Palp later tries to put Anakin in a similar situation in Rotj ("hold back so we can lure him over") Luke chooses to break the cycle by sparing his life. Palp ends up meeting the same fate as his master by a surprise attack by their creation.
@pokechamp3987. Not quite a Theory but it is a decent conjecture. Let me counter with a supposition of my own. You make some vey interesting points about the relationship between Binks and Palps, however I would like to point out that Kenobi pointed out that there is a symbiotic circle between the Gungan and the Naboo. Based on this I don't think Binks is Plagueis. Based on Kenobis claim. there would only still be 2 Sith since Palps and Binks are symbiotic, thus maintaining the rule of 2, The Sith laser swords seem to be associated with the color red. and the Jedi are Green and Blue. It isn't lost on me that Yoda was portrayed as a foolish character when introduced and he is green, whereas Binks seems red. There is a dialogue between Yoda and Windu about who is the master and who is the apprentice. In scenes where Bins and Pals appear side by side, I find it quite Curious that Palps always appears to be to Binks left. The right hand man if you will. The term "right-hand man" is an idiom that refers to a person who is a vital assistant to someone else, especially in the workplace, someone who works very closely with another person at a similar level, helping them with their work. While there is a reference that this term says it is because the right is perceived as Stronger then the left. I would posit that the left side of the brain controls the right side of the body. Also The left body tends not to be as noticed
"MEESA-ahem. Well then, it seems rather pointless to keep up the charáde at this point. Hat's off to you, Master Kenobi, your cleverness is perhaps the only thing I haven't accounted for. Such a shame I hadn't discovered you before Qui Gon Jin. Oh, angry, are we? Careful, General. I do believe it goes against your precious code. Then again, you've been neglecting it ever since Anakin fell in love with Padme. I'm only joking! After all, I am above your silly rules, or that "Rule of two" for that matter. To me there are no sides. There's just me and everyone else." *Proceeds to dodge all lightsaber attacks in a goofy manner*
Both were goofy chracters. Yoda with his funny way of speaking and jarjar being a clutz. They were mirrors of each other. It would have made much more sense having jarjar be the emperor because he was the one working with obiwan, not palpatine, who was a minor character until he wasn't. Jarjar was put front and center, with glowing yellow sith eyes.
@@johnthomas1422you’re so right, dude even watching him running swiftly behind the Jedi until they turn around and he abruptly stops, things like this were all so blatant and basically all of us missed it initially 🤯
@@johnthomas1422it really wasn’t a funny way of speaking. There are some actual Earth languages that are spoken that way. So you’re saying they speak funny.
my theory is that george had planned for jar jar to be a sith but then changed his mind when he saw how much people HATED jar jar when phantom menace was released. my guess is that jar jar would have filled the role of count dooku who suddenly appeared in the attack of the clones.
@@blackc1479 i still think it would have been perfection if jarjar turned out to be darth tyrannus. his ridiculous over the top antics would be seen in a new light. the rage anakin would feel at the betrayal, subsequent defeat, would play into anakin executing darth jarjar and the journey to the dark side.
@0biwan7 they could have taken it even farther. Imagine if jarjar had been plageus' master, and had set him up to be murdered by sideous. Palps could have been a total cats paw, and not even have known it. He could have been the face of the empire, and target of the rebellion, all the while the real master hid in plain sight. (That's my biggest gripe w the sith long game. Spend all that time planning and manipulating, and then pop up as the bad guy. It makes much more sense to just rule from the shadows indefinitely, while continually scapegoating others. )
There used to be articles that actually supported this from George and Ahmed Best. They basically stated this was the path George was intending to take but did in fact change due to backlash.
Jarjar and Yoda also have inverted character designs. Yoda is short and green, with large green ears pointed upwards, and very old. Jarjar is tall and pink, with large ears pointed down, and young-looking. Visually, they are foils.
That is so clear once you mention it (aside from jarjar being pink? But still good point) He was for sure at some point intended as a yoda foil, whos reveal was dropped after the backlash
I met George Lucas once, back in March of 2016. He was in a food court eating cheap take out Chinese food in my local city, just like a regular dude. I saw him and had to double take, like, was this really the guy that helped make some of my earliest movie memories right in front of me? I asked him if he was George Lucas, and he just smiled. I told him I was a huge fan of his work, and thanked him for helping make my childhood better. Then I asked him if there was ever meant to be more to Jar Jar's story, and he just smirked. I thanked him again and left, not wanting to annoy him. Still surreal to me.
Im sure he appreciated you just acting like a normal human being towards him and not like some creepy fanboy. If you are telling the truth, then that basically confirms Darth Jar Jar.
@@Da1337Man I still don't really see his smirk as confirmation of that. It could be, I didn't outright ask about Darth Jar Jar... I think he just appreciated that I wanted to know more, without hating on the character.
Darth Jar Jar would've been one of the most shocking twists ever. Especially when the dots both overt and subtle were connected. Be it him and Palpatine literally being neighbors, the fear his fellow Gungans display of him, and others. Him apparently reduced to a street performer as everything is discarded defines 'missed opportunity'.
The street performer is also a ruse. Similar to mob bosses who walk outside in pajamas and slippers and pretend to be senile to misdirect the FBI. With Jar Jar, the deception never ends.
Nahh, we are all way too suspicious of Jar Jar to be shocked if he is revealed to be sith spy or sith puppet master. It would be way more shocking to actually see Jar Jar fail and get revealed for his true identity or if he reveale himself on his own accord after such a long time of spying and manipulating his victims around like puppets.
Actually, the fact that Jar Jar's cover remains intact is only the testament to his power. We _know_ he's a sith, we don't need to see it revealed on screen. And the fact that he's never revealed on screen cements him as the ultimate Sith Lord.
Given that Yoda's first onscreen fight in Episode 2 was (As a Mancunian like myself or late mother would say.) like a cross between a headless chicken and a blue-arse fly and that Jar Jar's movements are pretty much on a level of Drunken Boxing that would make Jackie Chan envious, crazy doesn't come close to describing such a duel, a more apt description would be full on bat-shit insanity.
@@arturogonzalez-barrios8206 and the dialogue…omg “Mesa thinking yousa is a bit overconfident. Yousa have no idea whats yousa gettin into” *yoda noises* “Overconfident you are, speak poorly you do. Strike you down I shall”
which is funny. Maybe Lucas is just a better person than I, but if I got all that hate from creating Jar Jar in episode 1, I would want nothing more than to see it through, make his character amazing, and then say 'See fans, shouldn't have doubted me'.
@@jrobertlysaght I can just imagine the reveal. Jar Jar walks out of the shadows, the main characters are like "Jar Jar? Why are you here" or "We haven't got time for your antics, Jar Jar!" Bam! Cue Jar Jar speaking casually and not feeling at all pressured by the perilous situation, and as he continues to talk, his voice slowly loses the 'Jar Jarness', becoming cold and cruel and articulate, like Vitiate's "patience of stone and will of stars" speech. Bam! "Sorry kid, that whacky character you fell in love with was a lie" or "Jar Jar isn't so annoying now that he's been revealed to be the Sith behind Sidious, is he?" Hahaha.
I would love to see an unnecessarily excessive deep dive on why the rancor keeper has the most heart wrenching scene across the entire saga. Really love your stuff man
Read Tales from Jabba's Palace. Your right, he has a wrenching tale - he almost got the rancor out and was going to live happily with it. If it weren't for that pesky Jedi...
Your answer is in the mandalorian serie. I may not remember quite accurately (because I don't really care)... But it's something like it turns out a rancor attach to it's trainer, much like a bird does with the first creature it sees after hatching from the eggs. Only the trainer can approach it to care for and feel "loved" by the monster. That trainer got his heart broken because he just lost his old friend that was just like a family dog for him.
No, it's not in the Mando Series (i have those also); Tales from Jabba's Palace - A Boy and his Monster, the Rancor Keepers Tale by Kevin J. Anderson. The first novella in the Star Wars EU that i bought as a young teen in the nineties. They become friends and your right in that only he can safely approach it; he had organized with a rival of Jabbas to remove and relocate it basically the following day from when it was killed by Luke. Jabba's rival did it because it would piss off Jabba. Loved this book and the Star Wars Universe before Disney destroyed it. If you don't really care, you shouldn't have commented (Pulled out my copy so i could get the full title right)@@mr.octopus6972
It’s foreshadowing that killing is a horrible act even if a Jedi has no other choice and the being is a literally evil monster and Luke understands this by the end of the movie when he chooses not to kill Vader or Palpatine.
@@mrniceguystylehigh Wow, I really love that answer. George is more than a genius, he’s a truly compassionate genius at that, his perspective that’s sewn into these movies so beautifully, man I love this man
General Binks is basically Revan reborn. Saved the republic dozens of times both on the battlefield and with diplomacy. He was the real chosen one that should have inherited the new Empire.
Lucas was clear that Jar Jar was not a Sith. Proof positive on how advanced Jar Jar's obfuscation technique really is that he was able to fool even Lucas.
and let us not forget that as a fully MOcap CGI character every action Jar Jar makes is diliberate from the actor. and then the graphic artists have to intentionally designe every single movement. So every single movement was specifically made.
That means moments like the Penthouse at the start of Attack of the Clones, where Jar Jar is moving more similarly to palpatine, and in Revenge of the Sith, where Jar Jar is notably hiding a Smirk at Padme's funeral.
You totally missed the most impactful scene for this theory IMO. When Jar-Jar returns to the Gungan city you hear cries of anguish. Not like "oh this dumbass is back"... but like "OH NO, THAT TERRIFYING THING IS BACK!" His people FEARED him, suggesting he was not the nice guy he portrays.
Though not canon, the Disney Infinity game has a Jar Jar moment that could suggest he's evil. Jar Jar leads you to an elevator on Nabuu and then he continuously presses the wrong buttons allowing more and more enemies into the elevator, that you must fight. Jar Jar acts all clumsy and apologizes like he's doing it out of incompetence. But if he really is evil, then it's all an act and he was purposefully unleashing swarms of enemies on you.
In my head canon, Jar Jar is a vessel for Darth Plagueis' spirit after he cheated death through the ancient dark side force technique of essense tranfer. Binks was always the true Sith Lord. Plagueis is the only Sith mentioned in the movies that we aren't explicitly shown... or so we thought.
This would line up everything neatly, Plagueis letting his apprentice think he was killed, while grabbing an unassuming new vessel to keep going. Down the line, Palpatine tries to improve on it by simply having a clone of his own body prepared, thus not having the drawback of swapping vessels while retaining the ability to do so if he had reason to.
@@Ethan_Chappell By combining a trans with a Gungan perhaps.( this is called a Joke TH-cam) hmmm you really do struggle with such concepts tho don’t you? Ok . I take it back 😂
I had thought Jar Jar being Snoke would have been a good way to work in the sort of message Disney seems enamored with lately while still being cool. I can't quite get the line right but I picture a dead Snoke shown to be a robot or something followed by a familiar accent coming out. Rey expresses some skepticism about what a Gungan is doing there, and he starts to rant, initially in his accent but gradually becoming firmer and more sinister, about how no one, not Jedi, not Sith, ever really did anything for the Gungan. Even Anakin forgot about them, and Palpatine forgot all his fine promised when he got into power. But now, he's in charge, and the galaxy will tremble.
Atleast it would fun and memorable in a good way, albeit very silly. Like how the prequels are! Better to be funny bad like the highly memed prequels rather than just...bad. Like unenjoyable bad. @Ben-zr4ho
@professorhaystacks6606, Well that might have been interesting, However, part of me felt that Snoke was more in line with Mace Windu. Snoke seems to have force lightening scars and Snoke did say he was there at the birth of the empire Since he was the one who er nearly defeated Palpatine single handedly before Anakin betrayed him. Plus Windu was the only Jedi to have a purple light saber. Indicating he was balanced between the Sith side ( red light sabers) and the Jedi side ( blue light sabers)
If Plaguis had somehow foreseen that Sheen would sneakily kill him, so he prepared to be able to transfer his essence into Jar Jar, that would have been a fantastic way to tie it all together, and even would beg for a pre- prequel series! That time period was fascinating too!
With the bridge scene in the Phantom Menace, Jar-Jar initially “falls” on the right side of the bridge but then you see one of the battle droids heads follow something as it moves incredibly quickly from the right side of the bridge to the left… as we then see Jar-Jar fall from where the droid stopped looking. That’s what sold me
I'm convinced of the theory that Lucas originally intended Jar Jar to be a twist Sith lord, revealed as such in the climax of the second film and defeated at some point during the third film. However, the overpowering hatred of the character expressed by much of the moviegoing public, which Lucas had not anticipated, led to his drastically reducing Jar Jar's role and creating the character of Count Dooku to fill the role instead. In a way, this is similar to a quirky 1980s sci-fi stage musical called "The Starmites", which featured its main villain masquerading as a goofy, harmless alien character who accompanies the protagonists as a companion and a "mascot" of sorts, all the while manipulating them into getting him close to a powerful weapon so he can seize it and wield its power.
I keep seeing how everyone hated him. But if he's an undercover bad guy. Wouldn't that be a good thing. Everyone already has a reason to hate him, yet they don't know why, and in the end, they are given a completely good reason to dislike him.
"However, the overpowering hatred of the character expressed by much of the moviegoing public, which Lucas had not anticipated, led to his drastically reducing Jar Jar's role". This is a similar problem for the likes of say, FNaF security breach, where when Game Theory predicted how Security Breach would go, Steel Wool studios tried to remake the story and gameplay to avoid confirming the theories... Or rather, the accidentally predicted story. The end result was an unfinished Game as Steel Wool had to be strongarmed into releasing the game by Playstation and Sony, else they would miss their opportunity for a Summer release. In the case of Darth Jar Jar, part of the major reason was fan backlash... But the other half was also because Lucas decided to make Star Wars "Kid Friendly" to make up for the backlash... Which resulted in absurd scripts such as "Jar-Jar's Big adventure"... ...Yes, it was real, and yes, it was scrapped.
Lets not forget, Jar Jar is from Naboo...The same Planet that Palpatine originated from....There for Jar Jar could of sent Palpatine to set this all up. Then when the Jedi landed on Naboo, he was not there by accident. Palpatine told him They were coming to the system
Iirc there’s even a deleted scene showing the two walking and talking together-from a point where they chronologically shouldn’t have known each other yet
My new favourite theory is thinking that Jar Jar is a sith but he is at the point of power that even Palpatine didn't see it until it was too late but instead of directly aligning with the sith, Jar Jar is more of a chaotic neutral character. Just enjoys the chaos but slips into whichever side means his survival.
One thing that is rarely explored is that if Jar Jar is a Sith, it does not necessarily follow that he was an antagonist. If Jar Jar is actually Darth Plaguis, then he has a motive to oppose Palpatine- revenge. Jar Jar could have been a hidden Sith, but not one involved with Palp’s grand conspiracy.
Thought this theory was confirmed a while ago. Around the time it first came out, I think it was one of the actors, said something to the effect of finally they figured it out. It's been so long that the details are pretty much gone from my mind. Not to mention when Yoda explained the rule of two, and we see Palpatien and Jarjar standing together at Quigon's funeral.
@@FAFO4wisdom find me the interview and then maybe I will believe there is something to this. All I've seen are some fan interviews where he is kind enough to entertain the theory for them and offer few different voices. Nothing hinting that this was actually meant to be the case. The vast silent majority realize that if this was real, someone, whether it was Lucas himself, or Best, or one of the animators would have admitted it by now. There's no reason to keep it a secret at this point, especially now 1/4 of a century later.
@@DanielCristyou do realize the gungans act scared of jar jar?? And jar jar is also very deceptive?? Gungans wouldn’t be scared unless he has something theyre scared of. He also knew how to use a lightsaber out of nowhere
@@ARandomInternetUser08 wasn’t trying to just simply a short answer to be easy to spot in the thread. I love these threads of lore and explanations while we keep in mind it’s just a movie
Lucas' plan was to have an innocent & good character (Jar Jar) hang around with the Sith (Palpatine) and be corrupted proving how corrupting their influence is. Ep1: Jar Jar is good. Ep2: Jar Jar gives Palpatine emergency powers which leads to him becoming Emperor. He has been influenced, tricked, and thus did evil although not intentionally. Ep3: Jar Jar was to state that he was perfectly fine with what Palpatine was doing, and that he didn't regret how things turned out, i.e., he was thoroughly corrupted and turned evil. His path would mimic most people in govt--they may go there with good intentions, but the power corrupts them so that everyone in it becomes a part of the web of rot. When Lucas said "Jar Jar is the key to everything," this was the big story arc he was talking about. If Jar Jar could be depicted correctly, then it would set the stage for his fall. Thus, Anakin and the whole Republic had no chance except to fall as well because if even the most innocent of them all, Jar Jar, was not immune, then no one is. This is echoed by the "This is how democracy falls--with thunderous applause" scene. The corrosive influence of the Sith did the exact same thing to the majority of the Senate. They may have gone there with good intent, but they instead were turned evil. Lucas wanted the audience to know that no one was safe from turning evil and in effect, question themselves, "Would I turn evil, too?"
Not only does Darth Jar Jar smile for a short time, he stops and looks at the ground directly after R2D2 looks at him. As we already know R2D2 and C-3PO are suspicious towards Darth Jar Jar the whole movie. That makes his smile even more insane.
It actually makes more sense that Jar Jar would be the Sith counter part to Yoda. Palpatine was terrified of Yoda and was definitely not his equivalent in the force which means it stands to reason his equal was still out there.
Darth Bane’s Rule of Two was flawed from the beginning. It did not teach the one thing that the Sith pursued. Breaking all their Chains. Darth Sidious was successful in wiping out their greatest enemy, but He was shackled with his Empire. Jar-Jar, however, was trained the true ways of the Ancient Sith. He would obtain Unlimited Power, and no one could ever bring him down.
This, he didn't work with Plagueis and Sidious, he looked at their machinations from the outside like an adult watching children play. He was disgusted by the banist sith and their dogmatic jedi-like self-impositions and "principles". He understood what a true sith and was the safeguard of that true knowledge. Like in the ancient times he used form I Shi-Cho but to an even higher mastery, fighting by following the true slight random fluctuations of the force but he masked that with another layer of randomness with his masterful idiot-like body language. Guess how those banist sith and those jedi ended up? Dead and scattered. He survived and remains in the shadows, continuing his work that no one in the galaxy understands or can counter until it's the moment for the unreversable strike.
To be fair. If those after him had followed Bane’s rules, the Sith would be even stronger. But passing down the mantle of Sith Master was never to be taken through underhanded means. It was meant to be earned to 1v1 combat as a testament of one’s strength in the dark side. That’s not even addressing the sith that destroyed dark side knowledge, costing the order power.
Yeah but Barth Bane's Rule of Two was in direct response to the "Brotherhood of the Sith" which was promoted as an almost quasi socialist organization and a way for Sith to share power once they had acquired it. Which is VERY not Sith. So one master to have power and one apprentice to covet that power, learn, and eventually challenge that master and either become the new master or die... Much more Sith. Plus it was practical. All the Sith were dead except Bane. There was a whole Jedi army out there. He just came upon a highly force sensitive and angry young girl, a natural apprentice to help him and carry on Sith traditions in the event of his death. (Because he was THE last Sith, if he dies now what?) He had already become disillusioned with The Brotherhood before all the Sith but him were killed (or had their consciousnesses forever trapped in a Force Bomb, whatever) but the Rule of Two thing was just as much a natural development as a result of his situation than a dedicated creed...
I really like the Darth Bane book triology. Especially the second book because of the no holds barred ending. Up there with my favorite Star Wars books.
I imagine that Jar Jar was trained by Darth Plagius in secret by a different name, and even taught Plagius's inner secrets of long lasting life, and altering Mitoclorien's.
Long being convinced of this. All the mouthing of lines and subtle hand gestures while others are talking that lead to furtherance of Sith goals. The balcony drop with the droid shooting at where he was and its head following his trajectory implies a great jump from a strange angle. When he, Obi-wan and Qui-Gon first enter the water he does a huge 20ft spinning leap/dive into the water - in this universe only force users are seen to be able to do this sort of acrobatics coupled with how he has a plodding walk and is extremely clumsy(!). His eyes are already Sith yellow. As noted in these comments; when the three of them enter the Gungan hidden city; it's Jar Jar who they freak about - not the two outsider aliens. When making their escape with the princess, he waves his hand at Padmes bodyguard who allows him to cut in front of him directly behind Padme - a bodyguard letting a unknown member of a race that they have constant conflict with ahead of him within reach of his charge just wouldn't happen. It is Jar Jar who creates the moment to interact with Anakin again by eating the lizard thing (using the living force when it senses it right to?) It's suggested in the novel that in the craft leaving the Gungan city that Qui-Gon "over dose it" when trying to calm Jar Jar; when he was only playing possum so he could concentrate bringing in a bigger fish to eat the one troubling them and their craft. Doing his hand waving to get promoted by the big fat Boss Gungan while verbally dismissing it. When "something goes wrong with the hyperdrive" upon their escape; we don't know or see what he did - only see him pulling back from it - but R2D2 did - that's why it zapped him, this in a roundabout way led to them finding Anakin. Quite a few other things also. I feel he was to be the Darkside equivalent to Yoda who was as in tune to the living force as Yoda is to the light and Sidious is to the Dark. I picture that fight between Yoda and Dooku and try to place Jar Jar in Dooku's place but with Jar Jar flipping around as much as Yoda. Would be sweet. Also the name Darth Tyranus is reptilian and suits Jar Jar better that Dooku; a quick swap of characters to suit a fickle George Lucas. Actually, if you take all of Dooku's lines and interactions (particularly with Obi-Wan) and mentally swap in Jar Jar, it suits it like a hand in a glove.
The initial pool jump is a great point, the other Gungans never displaying anything close to that in terms of sheer force-like acrobatics. After confirming the two Jedi had never met one of his species before, Jar jar knew they wouldn't realise his acro skill is unusual to his species!
I find Count Dooku’s name interesting. It feels like a perfect Sith name for Jar Jar: Darth Dooku. I’m betting Darrh Tyranus’ character in Ep. 2 was intended for Jar Jar. It may also be why Ep. 2 fell flat. That reveal and storyline would have helped that movie.
Dooku also came out of nowhere. It would fit too good for that to be Jar Jar. Plus there are even scenes like the Obi Wan interrogation where part of the appeal seems obvious that the two know each other, and it would have been twice as impactful if Dooku were an established character. There's also that Dooku was the one interacting with the Kaminoans to make the clones, and it just fits so well with Jar Jar as it is a water planet
He 100% mind controlled the ENTIRE senate. He SMILES. There is absolutely ZERO reason he should be smiling at that moment unless he knew what palpatine really was.
ucas himself already confirmed that it was indeed his plan to make Jar Jar the big bad behind everything, but when the audience feedback bombed we ended up with Count Dookie and Greivous
not bad, dookie is whatever but the robot grevious guy with 4 arms is pretty bad ass in clone wars cartoon. i hope they reintroduce sith jarjar but as a neutral sith and introduce dark side but not evil side and light side but not Hero/good side concept. corrupted light, and a beneficial darkness.
@@GealuGalu That's an interesting idea, but not for Darth Jar Jar in particular. He already looks so goddamn creepy if you think of him as some sort of demon instead of a bumbling idiot, so go all out and make him the stuff of nightmares. The thing that every kid thinks is hiding under their bed.
When the topic of JarJar as a Sith lord arises, i always think about how his lightsaber fighting style would be. The most interesting take on JarJar Sith imo is when his personality or fighting style isn't changing after reveal, and he is actually that goofy light-hearted individual, but with great power, planning, and valiant mission of bringing a balance to the Force by expanding the Dark Side. Imagine him charging his opponents with goofy battle cry, then "accidentally" losing the grip on his saber and, while awkwardly jiggling it in the air and "trying to catch it" cutting every Jedi around him into pieces in what looks like a sudden barrage of uncannily unpredictable strikes. Or when he dodges a force wave by sneezing, or thumbing. And while the enemies can not lay a single strike on him, alrady fully aware of the Jar Jar' style, only unable to counter it because you *can not predict his movement,* Jar Jar is constantly saying that he don't want to hurt anyone, still thinks of Jedi as friends and just wants the Force to come into balance, by any means.
In reference to Darth Jar Jar’s fighting skills. He always remind me of a Drunk Boxing Master. A type of Kung fu, that utilizes the appearance and actions of a drunkard to disguise blocks and attacks. Force your event to underestimate you based on your appearance, then make him pay for his assumptions.
How cool would it have been if Jar Jar dropped the accent near the end of episode 3 and started talking in a more dark tone and becoming the main villain of the prequels
perhaps jar jar is actually force sensitive, but his powers lie in him not knowing. hes more like a spontaneous character in every moment, rather than relying on thought. the force uses him as a gray zone. maybe, but i do like the theory that jar jar is a darth lord. my goodness, i would love for them to confirm that.
It makes sense that Palpatine would recruit a local follower strong in force even if he's seen as an expendable agent. While Darth Maul on the other hand works as the overt threat the Jedi. Thus he catches them in a pincer movement.
Considering Palpatines covert plans, and how aggressive Maul is during the Phantom Menace, I don't think Maul was ever his true apprentice, just an attack dog he kept on a short leash before loosing him on the Jedi to be put down.
@@ARandomInternetUser08 If you recall when r2 'bumps' into jarjar when the ship was under attack. r2 isn't clumsy that's not it's character trait. R2 always runs into things on purpose, it was trying to stop jarjar from tampering with the engines before getting forced into it's duty. afterwards, when they do land on tatooine, qui gon didn't want the queens double (padme) to go with them, but jarjar is behind her and the body guard mouthing word for word what the guard says when talking about the Queen wishing to see the local area ect. then at the market it's jarjar who makes a commotion with subulba to get Anakin to take notice, only then does jarjar wave his hand to calm subulbas temper. this video didn't really do a good job going over all the evidence for the theory as there's a lot more but that's explaining what you were replying to
@@petercottantail7850 I do know about that encounter, but don't forget, the ship was damaged, but only the power was fixed, not the leak. Who knows, maybe Jar Jar did cause a leak, but idk.
Jar Jar also slyly mentioned the Gungan army to Padme in Phantom Menace, and suggested that the Gungan’s warrior nature is “why you no liking us, mesa thinks.” That casual mention was the inspiration Padme needed to go fight back against the Trade Federation on her own, which eventually united Gungan and Naboo and led to the defeat of the Trade Federation. Coincidence?! I THINK NOT!!!!! Also… Sith have orange eyes. Jar Jar has orange eyes from the beginning.
There's a couple more points to consider. First, the crimes Jar Jar committed in his home city were punishable with the death penalty. He must have done horrific things, and it makes his rise to general and ambassador even more unlikely without Sith mind-manipulation. Second, he was locked alone in the droid room shortly before R2-D2 was revealed as more than just a normal droid. I believe he had a hand in creating the single most pivotal character in all of Star Wars.
@@Pokemon-Kid112 Yeah, and people forget that they first have a fuel leak so they are forced to land on Tatooine, and then a hyperdrive failure to force them to stay. What are the chances they have both? Unless the Drunken Master of the Sith is doing it on purpose.
They really should have revealed JarJar as Snoke. Besides solidifying the "Darth JarJar" theory, it would have made him the perfect antithesis to Yoda. Yoda was... Short, well respected, kept the odd speech pattern from his youth, and pretended to be something he's not then quickly had the truth of his nature revealed in his introduction. JarJar as Snoke would have been... Tall, looked down upon by all around him, altered his speech pattern in his new persona (Snoke), and not been truly known by the other characters or the audience until the very end.
Just realized after posting this, another argument for the two being counterparts is this.... BOTH would have been introduced as "comic relief". However, Yoda's reasons for being ridiculous were been to test Luke and see how impetuous/impatient he was. Overall, it was to improve him by teaching him patience and wisdom because he thought he had potential. Had JarJar been revealed as a Sith or other type of dark side user, then his introductory foolishness was not to help and improve those around him, but to confuse and distract them because he (would have) thought they were idiots who would never see his true self.
I just thought of something. What if his Sith name was Darth Meesa and nobody realised that he was actually talking in third person the entire time? That would be some fun foreshadowing.
1 thing to note is Darth Jar Jar only allied with Palpatine and his master plan. The CIS attacking naboo, lead by another sith was completely unknown to him for a time, such was Palps's plan. Even upon finding out, Jar Jar knew what had to be done for the plan to come to fruition, and since the CIS attacked Naboo, he had no qualms playing his part fighting AGAINST the CIS. Mf was stupid-smart.
i whole heartedly believe that George Lucas intended for Jar jar Binks to be revealed as a sith strong in the dark side. (being Yodas story counterpart) But since phantom menace did so poorly & jar jar was vocaly hated by so many, he decided to rewrite his reveal out. (perhaps giving Dooku his scenes) imagine if it was Jar jar about to strike Anakin then Yoda comes in for the save , we would have a battle betwean the unassuming masters. +worth noting is a key inspiration George has mentioned:Asimovs Foundation books, in wich there is a lovable clutz called "the mule" who turns out to be the main villain
The Phantom Menace did really well at the box office it was mixed positive with critics but Jar Jar was the character with the most backlash and took a lot of the criticism. That being said Lucas should have kept the plot line.
I like to believe that he even acted dumb when no one was watching because someone like Yoda would almost immediately detect the dark forces emanating from him
I've always heard people complain that Darth Jar Jar would have been stupid with his speech patterns and look, but there is a way the reveal could have been epic. Imagine the point where the heroes discover Jar Jar is a Sith lord. At first Jar Jar deny's it in his usual dumb ways, but during his monologue goes on, his speech patterns turn normal, his voice becomes much more sinister, and his face begins to melt off, revealing he was never even a Gungan at all. Jar Jar then strait up murders a bunch of nameless Jedi and makes his escape. It all could have been epic and terrifying.
Years ago, I started trying to run a Star Wars RPG campaign where the plot involved something called "Project Skywalker," wherein Sidious was using Anakin's severed hand to cultivate Midichlorians to embue others with Force powers and create an army of engineered Force warriors. My plan was to have Jar Jar sell out the Republic and motion for Palpatine to take power in order to be given Force powers from this scheme. Really frustrating to discover this theory existed years later.
This is probably the best breakdown of the theory i've seen, hitting all the major points. Maybe only a few subtle hints could have been added, but very well done video. He was absolutely supposed to be the reveal in Episode 2 instead of making Count Dooku. Similar to the 2nd part of the original trilogy the reveal of Vader being Luke's father.
As much as I like this theory it's a bit unlikely, Sith don't just train themselves generally, they all follow the rule of one excluding Palpatine taking on two apprentices. Palpatine was the only one kinda flexible on this so I don't see his master Plagueis having multiple apprentices so Jar Jar would have to be another secret apprentice of Palpatine; that too is unlikely as he would have been more useful to Palpatine and Maul's assassination of the prophecy's chosen one(at that time's chosen one if you subscribe to Anakin being the chosen one) If he is a Sith and using force cloak to block Jedi and the public alike to his true form and utilizing an advanced form of combat(drunken fist type style) then that seems too advanced for a Sith apprentice so could he be Plagueis' master? That's unlikely given Plagueis' and Palatine's age and the fact we see Jar Jar's home and father so he's probably not that old in comparison unless there's some lore I don't know about with how long Gungans live and have long life spans that would make that scenario possible. A lot of what if's. I think Occam's Razor is probably the best route here, he's most likely not a Sith But idk
When I was a kid, I started making Star Wars 'movies' with my 8mm camera and Star Wars action figures, and Lego, lol. My next door neighbour friend ( here in Toronto ) started helping me, and we made 'The Empire Strikes Back' in my basement, using lots of flour, cardboard ships and more action figures. I gave up on making movies but my friend kept it up. Eventually he ended up working for ILM and became the supervising animator for Jar Jar Binks! How cool is that.
Thats pretty rad
That is awesome.
That IS cool! Hopefully true too
I used 2 make Lego movies when I was a kiddo 2!
Stop motion movies?
Darth Jar Jar was a 100% intended plot twist that was quietly shelved. I'll never be convinced otherwise. There was no reason to animate him whispering words in Phantom Menace.
I just commented this as well. This is NOT a theory, it is fact…& a damn shame.
I think it is so wasted. They should have done it.
Its always headcanon though. and retcons are common in starwars so mabye one day we can see it
Lucas messed up the reveal. I think his idea was to reveal it in the 2nd film and the backlash ruined it.
@@jayyarbrough9902 jup I think the same. Dooku was added after ep1. And jarjar binks public response was bad. Its cool to think Ep3 could have had a big showdown between palpatine and jar jar to decide who would become emperor. Id pay to watch that fight
Just imagine if Jar Jar pulled a Reverse Flash on Palpatine.
"You'sha thought it was you'sha was the Puppet Mastera, but it was'a me'sha Sidious, IT WAS ME'SA PULLING YOUR'SA STRINGS!!!"
Sidious-"no, No, NOOO!"
Mesa has unlimited powa
Yousa been a bad boy Meester big bad, I show you the bombad powa
There is a scene like that in a Robot Chicken Star Wars episode
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Mesa goals are beyond yousa understanding!
And instead we get "somehow Palpatine returned."
Also, in Phantom Menace, Jar Jar tries to take food from a vendor on Tatooine... who asked if he was going to pay for it and telling him the price in the language of the Hutts. If he were really a bumbling fool from a backwater world, he wouldn't have understood the language... or the price. His reaction showed he understood perfectly well.
Don't forget the force wave.
He forced anakin to intervene similar to when palp let windu win. Both situations forced anakin to “choose his path” both were the true births of Jedi skywalker and darth Vader. Anakin would’ve gone unnoticed without jar jar doing that, if that never happens Qui gon never steps foot into anakin’s house meaning he would never be convinced by his mother to let anakin race.
@@Osamas_worst_nightmarepalpatine did not let windu win 😂😂😂windu beat him and straight up overpowered him
Huttese is a pretty common language in the Galaxy, probably the most common after Basic.
@eeveeofalltrades4780 While I agree Huttese is common, Naboo is far from Hut space on the map, and the Gungans seem quite insular, if not xenophobic. They barely speak Basic, most likely because they are uninterested in outsiders and outside events, not due to a lack of capability. I could be wrong, but I find it unlikely any Gungan would know the language unless they left the planet. There isn't much evidence of anyone contacting them aside from the Naboo.
When Jar Jar was banned from the underwater city, people were SCARED of him.. they didn't think of him as pest they thought of him as a threat.
I've always found that really strange. What the hell was Jar Jar doing out i the middle of nowhere when Qui and Obi found him? He never got that answer either.
Tasered & Handcuffed too. Says Jar Jar was out looking for Food, that too throw the reader off. Clearly looking out for Qui Gon.
So they banned a Sith from the city and the sith just followed along with the ban. Doesn’t sound very Sithy to me.
@@Pid75Sith play the long game.
@@johnn.2017 which is odd given the high turnover rate. Three apprentices in one trilogy. You’d think they’d live for the moment.
@@Pid75 No, No, it is completely "Sithy". Qui Gon believes Jar Jar is so weak minded, That he uses the absolute miniscule amount of the force to tell Binks to "get out of here" Watch that scene again and watch Qui Gons right hand make a barely perceptible motion. Then watch Binks quick rebuttal with a hand motion. When they are going through Naboos core, Binks asks where they are going to which Jinn says the force will guide us. Tell me that Jar Jars response isn't a back handed rebuff of what he thinks of the force
Another point often brought up is Lucas' great love of Asimov's Foundation stories, which were a major inspiration to his development of Star Wars. In it there is the character of The Mule, a bumbling idiot, a jester figure, just like Jar Jar, who turns out to be the great leader they are all fighting against, his persona being a mask to fool everyone around him. Just like Jar Jar.
Cool
Wasn't that characters name... Bink?
Isn't the true leader of the Yuuzhan Vong actually, "in public":, a jester?
100% this
@@kenupton4084
No his persona was a street clown named Magnifico.
I 100% believe this theory was legit.
What always comes back to my mind is the infamous George Lucas meme of "it's like poetry, it rhymes" Jar-Jar was the anti-Yoda. Yoda was also a rather annoying character initially, but revealed to be extremely powerful, Jar-Jar is just the concept flipped, and fleshed out more.
Had it been stuck with, I think it would have worked in the end.
Phantom Menace was such a poor film... that's why the Jar Jar angle was scrapped.
@@TripAces it was scrapped because Disney screws everything they touch up
It would've been genius, but Lucas lacked the required titanium balls unfortunately...smfh
🤦
This is very much my opinion as well, hiccups aside.
disney really missed the boat on making jar jar teh final baddie in the sequal trilogy
well cause they couldn't - that's the one and ONLY character KK decided to "protect" for George's legacy 😂but seriously god forbid them to try it now - cause it will be too little too late and will only hurt more...but yeah it DEF should've been Darth Jar Jar instead of cloned Palps for sure! I mean really Darth Jar Jar should've been revealed somewhere at the end of Revenge of the Sith but I digress. Oh but another miss in the sequel trilogy was Snoke. He def should've have been revealed as Mace Windu. So two entirely HUGE misses that would've kept Star Wars alive and well.
Nah.. he opted to write it instead 🤷🏻♂️🤣
That would have actually made these movies interesting. Maybe not redeemed it, but actually done something interesting that took guts and would have been respectable.
Oh WOW yes!!!!!😍
Not the final baddie, but yet another of Darth Sidious kind of sorta true but not really apprentices.
Theory: He's actually Plagueis, who is rumored to have been alive during the first movie. Jar jar finds an apprentice from the same planet (Palp) and together they create Anakin. He then goes on the trip to Naboo to personally oversee the mission. There he influences critical events like the bet with Watto to make sure Anakin is extracted properly. In this movie I think he's supposed to be the Phantom Menace. The question at the end asking if Maul was the master or apprentice (while focusing camera on Palp) is a bit of a red herring since there's actually three of them.
I like to think DJJ was supposed to have been revealed in Aotc after giving emergency powers to Palp, but was replaced by Dooku (some argue his spaceship even resembles a Gungan). The full reveal at the end of the movie with him igniting a red light saber would have been epic.
The rest of the story could have been the same with Palp ultimately betraying him in Rots by ordering Anakin to strike. He'd lose the duel on purpose thinking Palp would follow the script. While the betrayal doesn't happen in his sleep in this version I'd find it just as "ironic" for him to be killed by his own creation. When Palp later tries to put Anakin in a similar situation in Rotj ("hold back so we can lure him over") Luke chooses to break the cycle by sparing his life. Palp ends up meeting the same fate as his master by a surprise attack by their creation.
Except we know what plagueis looks like, and Jar Jar is different lol?
This is getting out of hand! Now there are 3 of them?
Plagueis was killed off screen by siddious at roughly the same time that Obi Wan sliced Maul in half.
@pokechamp3987. Not quite a Theory but it is a decent conjecture. Let me counter with a supposition of my own. You make some vey interesting points about the relationship between Binks and Palps, however I would like to point out that Kenobi pointed out that there is a symbiotic circle between the Gungan and the Naboo. Based on this I don't think Binks is Plagueis. Based on Kenobis claim. there would only still be 2 Sith since Palps and Binks are symbiotic, thus maintaining the rule of 2, The Sith laser swords seem to be associated with the color red. and the Jedi are Green and Blue. It isn't lost on me that Yoda was portrayed as a foolish character when introduced and he is green, whereas Binks seems red. There is a dialogue between Yoda and Windu about who is the master and who is the apprentice. In scenes where Bins and Pals appear side by side, I find it quite Curious that Palps always appears to be to Binks left. The right hand man if you will. The term "right-hand man" is an idiom that refers to a person who is a vital assistant to someone else, especially in the workplace, someone who works very closely with another person at a similar level, helping them with their work. While there is a reference that this term says it is because the right is perceived as Stronger then the left. I would posit that the left side of the brain controls the right side of the body. Also The left body tends not to be as noticed
A Darth Jar Jar reveal would of been the greatest twists in cinema history since "Luke i am your father."
Lucas bowed to the pressure i bet.
Exactly
Who says, "Luke I am your father"?
@@bewmdogg Some tall dark handsome fella.
It’s “No, I am your father.”
He definitely bowed to the pressure
It would be really neat to see a scene where JarJar reveals himself to be a Sith Lord, speaking the queen's English with a melodious voice.
I can’t even imagine lol
Ahmed Best has an evil version of Jar Jar's voice. Do a search for that. It's actually rather terrifying.
"MEESA-ahem. Well then, it seems rather pointless to keep up the charáde at this point. Hat's off to you, Master Kenobi, your cleverness is perhaps the only thing I haven't accounted for. Such a shame I hadn't discovered you before Qui Gon Jin. Oh, angry, are we? Careful, General. I do believe it goes against your precious code. Then again, you've been neglecting it ever since Anakin fell in love with Padme. I'm only joking! After all, I am above your silly rules, or that "Rule of two" for that matter. To me there are no sides. There's just me and everyone else."
*Proceeds to dodge all lightsaber attacks in a goofy manner*
Is that queen Nanasipau'u of Tonga, or some other queen?
Oh, for heaven's sake, the Chubbchubbs are coming!
I find this reminiscent of when we first meet Yoda in Empire Strikes Back and underestimate who he really is
Both were goofy chracters. Yoda with his funny way of speaking and jarjar being a clutz. They were mirrors of each other. It would have made much more sense having jarjar be the emperor because he was the one working with obiwan, not palpatine, who was a minor character until he wasn't. Jarjar was put front and center, with glowing yellow sith eyes.
And George said they would echo the originals
@@johnthomas1422you’re so right, dude even watching him running swiftly behind the Jedi until they turn around and he abruptly stops, things like this were all so blatant and basically all of us missed it initially 🤯
@@johnthomas1422it really wasn’t a funny way of speaking. There are some actual Earth languages that are spoken that way. So you’re saying they speak funny.
@@BigFunnyGiant Uhm thats a stupid ass comparison, Jar and Yoda spoke English, not another language, other languages have nothing to do with this
At the end of the Phantom Menace I was 100% sure that Jar Jar was the other Sith. The way it pans to him at the end during the cremation scene.
Jar jar was literally smiling when he gave emergency power too palpatine
Seriously, with his dead, yellow Sith eyes lol.
Which he would also be doing if he thought it was the right thing to do at the time.
Gives me chills seeing that scene nowadays.
my theory is that george had planned for jar jar to be a sith but then changed his mind when he saw how much people HATED jar jar when phantom menace was released. my guess is that jar jar would have filled the role of count dooku who suddenly appeared in the attack of the clones.
If he hadn't been so ridiculously over the top, George might have been able to pull it off.
@@blackc1479 i still think it would have been perfection if jarjar turned out to be darth tyrannus. his ridiculous over the top antics would be seen in a new light. the rage anakin would feel at the betrayal, subsequent defeat, would play into anakin executing darth jarjar and the journey to the dark side.
@0biwan7 they could have taken it even farther. Imagine if jarjar had been plageus' master, and had set him up to be murdered by sideous. Palps could have been a total cats paw, and not even have known it. He could have been the face of the empire, and target of the rebellion, all the while the real master hid in plain sight.
(That's my biggest gripe w the sith long game. Spend all that time planning and manipulating, and then pop up as the bad guy. It makes much more sense to just rule from the shadows indefinitely, while continually scapegoating others. )
There used to be articles that actually supported this from George and Ahmed Best. They basically stated this was the path George was intending to take but did in fact change due to backlash.
@@jacobbarnhart8770 i despised jarjar but if he turned out to be a sith lord, i would have retracted all my hate.
Darth Darth Binks in my canon forever
Jarjar and Yoda also have inverted character designs. Yoda is short and green, with large green ears pointed upwards, and very old. Jarjar is tall and pink, with large ears pointed down, and young-looking. Visually, they are foils.
this is one of the most compelling arguments. character design is like etymology
Holy shit I never thought of it like that but you're so right, that's a very good observation. They are like literal visual opposites
That is so clear once you mention it (aside from jarjar being pink? But still good point)
He was for sure at some point intended as a yoda foil, whos reveal was dropped after the backlash
If you invert pink you get green, methinks @partymantis3421
There's only one way Disney could redeem themselves after butchering the franchise. Disney, youssa know what to do.
Seems like they did i4
@@frederikferguson2571no lol
It’s far too late for that… plus it would require Disney to radically change its approach and employees.
Make usanvong movie and make it very violent
Would watch
I met George Lucas once, back in March of 2016. He was in a food court eating cheap take out Chinese food in my local city, just like a regular dude. I saw him and had to double take, like, was this really the guy that helped make some of my earliest movie memories right in front of me? I asked him if he was George Lucas, and he just smiled. I told him I was a huge fan of his work, and thanked him for helping make my childhood better. Then I asked him if there was ever meant to be more to Jar Jar's story, and he just smirked. I thanked him again and left, not wanting to annoy him. Still surreal to me.
Im sure he appreciated you just acting like a normal human being towards him and not like some creepy fanboy. If you are telling the truth, then that basically confirms Darth Jar Jar.
@@Da1337Man I still don't really see his smirk as confirmation of that. It could be, I didn't outright ask about Darth Jar Jar... I think he just appreciated that I wanted to know more, without hating on the character.
"FOR I AM YOUR STEEEEED!!!!"
Darth Jar Jar would've been one of the most shocking twists ever. Especially when the dots both overt and subtle were connected. Be it him and Palpatine literally being neighbors, the fear his fellow Gungans display of him, and others. Him apparently reduced to a street performer as everything is discarded defines 'missed opportunity'.
The street performer is also a ruse. Similar to mob bosses who walk outside in pajamas and slippers and pretend to be senile to misdirect the FBI. With Jar Jar, the deception never ends.
Nahh, we are all way too suspicious of Jar Jar to be shocked if he is revealed to be sith spy or sith puppet master. It would be way more shocking to actually see Jar Jar fail and get revealed for his true identity or if he reveale himself on his own accord after such a long time of spying and manipulating his victims around like puppets.
Actually, the fact that Jar Jar's cover remains intact is only the testament to his power. We _know_ he's a sith, we don't need to see it revealed on screen. And the fact that he's never revealed on screen cements him as the ultimate Sith Lord.
LOL, I ran a website about the idea of Darth Jar Jar back in 1999. It is funny to still see the idea going around 25 years later.
Dang I ran a website doing the same in 1998.
Holy shit I was running one too in 1997!
96 here
@@sevenwhatuknow LOL im actually George Lucas
what the hell, 95 man, I remember it because I was 9 at the time.
Jar Jar vs Yoda duel would be crazy
Given that Yoda's first onscreen fight in Episode 2 was (As a Mancunian like myself or late mother would say.) like a cross between a headless chicken and a blue-arse fly and that Jar Jar's movements are pretty much on a level of Drunken Boxing that would make Jackie Chan envious, crazy doesn't come close to describing such a duel, a more apt description would be full on bat-shit insanity.
Better than the Dooku vs Yoda duel. Jar Jars moves would be insanely unpredictable and funny. Dude's got toon force.
@@arturogonzalez-barrios8206 and the dialogue…omg
“Mesa thinking yousa is a bit overconfident. Yousa have no idea whats yousa gettin into”
*yoda noises* “Overconfident you are, speak poorly you do. Strike you down I shall”
imagine when we got the final trail for Rise of Skywalker, instead of hearing Palpantine's evil cackle we hear "yousa in biiiiiig doodoo this time"
Yeah, I think this was also the plan, but backlash forced Lucas to reverse-course.
Jar Jar being Plagueis would've been one hell of a twist.
which is funny. Maybe Lucas is just a better person than I, but if I got all that hate from creating Jar Jar in episode 1, I would want nothing more than to see it through, make his character amazing, and then say 'See fans, shouldn't have doubted me'.
@@jrobertlysaght I can just imagine the reveal.
Jar Jar walks out of the shadows, the main characters are like "Jar Jar? Why are you here" or "We haven't got time for your antics, Jar Jar!"
Bam!
Cue Jar Jar speaking casually and not feeling at all pressured by the perilous situation, and as he continues to talk, his voice slowly loses the 'Jar Jarness', becoming cold and cruel and articulate, like Vitiate's "patience of stone and will of stars" speech.
Bam!
"Sorry kid, that whacky character you fell in love with was a lie" or "Jar Jar isn't so annoying now that he's been revealed to be the Sith behind Sidious, is he?"
Hahaha.
To think, Darth Jar Jar was just toying with that droid army, amazing.
Yeah, he looks like he doesn't even care about being unarmed dead in the middle of a battle
I would love to see an unnecessarily excessive deep dive on why the rancor keeper has the most heart wrenching scene across the entire saga. Really love your stuff man
Read Tales from Jabba's Palace. Your right, he has a wrenching tale - he almost got the rancor out and was going to live happily with it. If it weren't for that pesky Jedi...
Your answer is in the mandalorian serie.
I may not remember quite accurately (because I don't really care)...
But it's something like it turns out a rancor attach to it's trainer, much like a bird does with the first creature it sees after hatching from the eggs.
Only the trainer can approach it to care for and feel "loved" by the monster.
That trainer got his heart broken because he just lost his old friend that was just like a family dog for him.
No, it's not in the Mando Series (i have those also); Tales from Jabba's Palace - A Boy and his Monster, the Rancor Keepers Tale by Kevin J. Anderson. The first novella in the Star Wars EU that i bought as a young teen in the nineties. They become friends and your right in that only he can safely approach it; he had organized with a rival of Jabbas to remove and relocate it basically the following day from when it was killed by Luke. Jabba's rival did it because it would piss off Jabba. Loved this book and the Star Wars Universe before Disney destroyed it. If you don't really care, you shouldn't have commented (Pulled out my copy so i could get the full title right)@@mr.octopus6972
It’s foreshadowing that killing is a horrible act even if a Jedi has no other choice and the being is a literally evil monster and Luke understands this by the end of the movie when he chooses not to kill Vader or Palpatine.
@@mrniceguystylehigh Wow, I really love that answer. George is more than a genius, he’s a truly compassionate genius at that, his perspective that’s sewn into these movies so beautifully, man I love this man
Jar jar was out here playing everyone like it’s a chess game
While everyone else is playing checkers.
@@R8DRBeagleor perhaps backgammon.
He was playing 3D chess while we were playing tic tac toe
Darth Jar Jar doesn't just outplay people he straight up eats the pieces so they can't even make a move.
I wonder who would win, Xanatos or Jar Jar?
What if Jar Jar was the actual Phantom menace. Lol
General Binks is basically Revan reborn. Saved the republic dozens of times both on the battlefield and with diplomacy. He was the real chosen one that should have inherited the new Empire.
Lucas was clear that Jar Jar was not a Sith. Proof positive on how advanced Jar Jar's obfuscation technique really is that he was able to fool even Lucas.
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What if he was saying that because he didn't want to give away future ideas
Jar Jar is obviously dastardly and cunning SOB.
Or because Jar Jar *forced* him to... @@BaneOfV
and let us not forget that as a fully MOcap CGI character every action Jar Jar makes is diliberate from the actor. and then the graphic artists have to intentionally designe every single movement. So every single movement was specifically made.
That means moments like the Penthouse at the start of Attack of the Clones, where Jar Jar is moving more similarly to palpatine, and in Revenge of the Sith, where Jar Jar is notably hiding a Smirk at Padme's funeral.
You totally missed the most impactful scene for this theory IMO. When Jar-Jar returns to the Gungan city you hear cries of anguish. Not like "oh this dumbass is back"... but like "OH NO, THAT TERRIFYING THING IS BACK!" His people FEARED him, suggesting he was not the nice guy he portrays.
Though not canon, the Disney Infinity game has a Jar Jar moment that could suggest he's evil. Jar Jar leads you to an elevator on Nabuu and then he continuously presses the wrong buttons allowing more and more enemies into the elevator, that you must fight. Jar Jar acts all clumsy and apologizes like he's doing it out of incompetence. But if he really is evil, then it's all an act and he was purposefully unleashing swarms of enemies on you.
What a mischievous and manipulative sith he is. He will never drop his mask, and he will make sure that he will never be uncovered as a sith lord.
Jar Jar being the Sith Yoda would be a crazy revaluation.
In my head canon, Jar Jar is a vessel for Darth Plagueis' spirit after he cheated death through the ancient dark side force technique of essense tranfer. Binks was always the true Sith Lord.
Plagueis is the only Sith mentioned in the movies that we aren't explicitly shown... or so we thought.
This would line up everything neatly, Plagueis letting his apprentice think he was killed, while grabbing an unassuming new vessel to keep going. Down the line, Palpatine tries to improve on it by simply having a clone of his own body prepared, thus not having the drawback of swapping vessels while retaining the ability to do so if he had reason to.
Plagueis is shown in the accolyte
@@Sorain1 My thoughts exactly!
I wonder what experiments Darth Plagueis performed to try and acquire immortality
Probably tried using cocaine
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By combining a trans with a Gungan perhaps.( this is called a Joke TH-cam) hmmm you really do struggle with such concepts tho don’t you?
Ok . I take it back 😂
Idk much about Pleg but I think By tweaking the MidiChlorians into MaxiChlorians. But it was his master that created this before he died.
Biotransferrance. Jar Jar was probably a braindead dummy, Plagues had a lot of room to fill up with his midi-chlorians.
They were ..........
Unnatural
Jar Jar was meant to say to Anakin in Episode III, "Anakin, meesa yah faddah. Search yousa feelings, yousa knows it to be twue."
😂😂😂 thats crazy, haha
Took me a while to translate gungan....
Boy, was Shmi drunk that night ....
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@@Humans_Eh lol...
I had thought Jar Jar being Snoke would have been a good way to work in the sort of message Disney seems enamored with lately while still being cool. I can't quite get the line right but I picture a dead Snoke shown to be a robot or something followed by a familiar accent coming out. Rey expresses some skepticism about what a Gungan is doing there, and he starts to rant, initially in his accent but gradually becoming firmer and more sinister, about how no one, not Jedi, not Sith, ever really did anything for the Gungan. Even Anakin forgot about them, and Palpatine forgot all his fine promised when he got into power. But now, he's in charge, and the galaxy will tremble.
DO IT.
That would be laughably silly.. but a hell of a lot more fun than both the prequels and the Disney sequels so... Sure. Why not?
Atleast it would fun and memorable in a good way, albeit very silly. Like how the prequels are! Better to be funny bad like the highly memed prequels rather than just...bad. Like unenjoyable bad. @Ben-zr4ho
@professorhaystacks6606, Well that might have been interesting, However, part of me felt that Snoke was more in line with Mace Windu. Snoke seems to have force lightening scars and Snoke did say he was there at the birth of the empire Since he was the one who er nearly defeated Palpatine single handedly before Anakin betrayed him. Plus Windu was the only Jedi to have a purple light saber. Indicating he was balanced between the Sith side ( red light sabers) and the Jedi side ( blue light sabers)
he pronounces not as "notsa" yet said "not exactly" very clearly when he wielded the lightsaber, just to point out
Jar-Jar is not merely a Sith. He's Darth Plaguis.
If Plaguis had somehow foreseen that Sheen would sneakily kill him, so he prepared to be able to transfer his essence into Jar Jar, that would have been a fantastic way to tie it all together, and even would beg for a pre- prequel series! That time period was fascinating too!
Then we could see how Plaguis architected everything all the way through
We need Darth Jar Jar back and having him appear in Asoka would be a perfect place. There is a whole storyline there.
no one cares about the starwars that Disney make. Disney starwars is not cannon.
With the bridge scene in the Phantom Menace, Jar-Jar initially “falls” on the right side of the bridge but then you see one of the battle droids heads follow something as it moves incredibly quickly from the right side of the bridge to the left… as we then see Jar-Jar fall from where the droid stopped looking. That’s what sold me
I'm convinced of the theory that Lucas originally intended Jar Jar to be a twist Sith lord, revealed as such in the climax of the second film and defeated at some point during the third film. However, the overpowering hatred of the character expressed by much of the moviegoing public, which Lucas had not anticipated, led to his drastically reducing Jar Jar's role and creating the character of Count Dooku to fill the role instead. In a way, this is similar to a quirky 1980s sci-fi stage musical called "The Starmites", which featured its main villain masquerading as a goofy, harmless alien character who accompanies the protagonists as a companion and a "mascot" of sorts, all the while manipulating them into getting him close to a powerful weapon so he can seize it and wield its power.
I think that's really the main argument point here, where on earth did Dooku come from?
I keep seeing how everyone hated him. But if he's an undercover bad guy. Wouldn't that be a good thing. Everyone already has a reason to hate him, yet they don't know why, and in the end, they are given a completely good reason to dislike him.
"However, the overpowering hatred of the character expressed by much of the moviegoing public, which Lucas had not anticipated, led to his drastically reducing Jar Jar's role".
This is a similar problem for the likes of say, FNaF security breach, where when Game Theory predicted how Security Breach would go, Steel Wool studios tried to remake the story and gameplay to avoid confirming the theories... Or rather, the accidentally predicted story.
The end result was an unfinished Game as Steel Wool had to be strongarmed into releasing the game by Playstation and Sony, else they would miss their opportunity for a Summer release.
In the case of Darth Jar Jar, part of the major reason was fan backlash... But the other half was also because Lucas decided to make Star Wars "Kid Friendly" to make up for the backlash... Which resulted in absurd scripts such as "Jar-Jar's Big adventure"...
...Yes, it was real, and yes, it was scrapped.
@@Victor-056Did you work on the movies?
Lets not forget, Jar Jar is from Naboo...The same Planet that Palpatine originated from....There for Jar Jar could of sent Palpatine to set this all up. Then when the Jedi landed on Naboo, he was not there by accident. Palpatine told him They were coming to the system
*have
The sequel trilogy fumbled the bag by not including jar jar in any of there shitty Disney Wars.
@@jimbo7551 He is in one of the books, basically an old gungan that's been mocked and tormented by everyone for years
Iirc there’s even a deleted scene showing the two walking and talking together-from a point where they chronologically shouldn’t have known each other yet
I don’t like the idea of sidious being undercut I think dark force spy is a perfect place for jar jar
My new favourite theory is thinking that Jar Jar is a sith but he is at the point of power that even Palpatine didn't see it until it was too late but instead of directly aligning with the sith, Jar Jar is more of a chaotic neutral character. Just enjoys the chaos but slips into whichever side means his survival.
One thing that is rarely explored is that if Jar Jar is a Sith, it does not necessarily follow that he was an antagonist. If Jar Jar is actually Darth Plaguis, then he has a motive to oppose Palpatine- revenge. Jar Jar could have been a hidden Sith, but not one involved with Palp’s grand conspiracy.
Thought this theory was confirmed a while ago. Around the time it first came out, I think it was one of the actors, said something to the effect of finally they figured it out. It's been so long that the details are pretty much gone from my mind. Not to mention when Yoda explained the rule of two, and we see Palpatien and Jarjar standing together at Quigon's funeral.
Ahmed Best himself hinted it very heavily.
@@FAFO4wisdom Ahmed Best also happens to be a gifted acrobat, if I remember correctly.
@@guiltyspark659 I think you're right.
@@FAFO4wisdom find me the interview and then maybe I will believe there is something to this. All I've seen are some fan interviews where he is kind enough to entertain the theory for them and offer few different voices. Nothing hinting that this was actually meant to be the case.
The vast silent majority realize that if this was real, someone, whether it was Lucas himself, or Best, or one of the animators would have admitted it by now. There's no reason to keep it a secret at this point, especially now 1/4 of a century later.
@@DanielCristyou do realize the gungans act scared of jar jar?? And jar jar is also very deceptive?? Gungans wouldn’t be scared unless he has something theyre scared of. He also knew how to use a lightsaber out of nowhere
"In my experience, there is no such thing as luck." - an old Obi Wan who should have known Jar Jar
Jar jar: yousa think, but always Mesa know.
Sidous: what?
why do i have this horrifying feeling that jar jar would chain a naked palpatine to his ankle as a sex trophy?
Actually I think his “real” voice would have been hella creepy. A monotone with voice coming out of that character
the out of context "jar jar's the key to all this" actually got me cracking up lol
Imagine if in Rise of Skywalker the BBEG ended up being Jar Jar, with the events of all 8 previous movies being all according to his evil agenda.
If im not mistaken hes the only gungan with yellow eyes
You are boss nass has them
@@hallowsoul2722 you didn't have to get rude.
@@ARandomInternetUser08 wasn’t trying to just simply a short answer to be easy to spot in the thread. I love these threads of lore and explanations while we keep in mind it’s just a movie
@@ARandomInternetUser08 I didn’t mean to just simply answered to satisfy our need for lore
@@hallowsoul2722 oh...ok.
"your eyes can deceive you, don't trust them" - obi wan kenobi
Lucas' plan was to have an innocent & good character (Jar Jar) hang around with the Sith (Palpatine) and be corrupted proving how corrupting their influence is.
Ep1: Jar Jar is good.
Ep2: Jar Jar gives Palpatine emergency powers which leads to him becoming Emperor. He has been influenced, tricked, and thus did evil although not intentionally.
Ep3: Jar Jar was to state that he was perfectly fine with what Palpatine was doing, and that he didn't regret how things turned out, i.e., he was thoroughly corrupted and turned evil. His path would mimic most people in govt--they may go there with good intentions, but the power corrupts them so that everyone in it becomes a part of the web of rot.
When Lucas said "Jar Jar is the key to everything," this was the big story arc he was talking about. If Jar Jar could be depicted correctly, then it would set the stage for his fall. Thus, Anakin and the whole Republic had no chance except to fall as well because if even the most innocent of them all, Jar Jar, was not immune, then no one is. This is echoed by the "This is how democracy falls--with thunderous applause" scene. The corrosive influence of the Sith did the exact same thing to the majority of the Senate. They may have gone there with good intent, but they instead were turned evil.
Lucas wanted the audience to know that no one was safe from turning evil and in effect, question themselves, "Would I turn evil, too?"
Bro you have to watch The Phantom Menace again but look at jarjar at the funeral for Quigon. You will see that he smiles!
Not only does Darth Jar Jar smile for a short time, he stops and looks at the ground directly after R2D2 looks at him. As we already know R2D2 and C-3PO are suspicious towards Darth Jar Jar the whole movie. That makes his smile even more insane.
It actually makes more sense that Jar Jar would be the Sith counter part to Yoda. Palpatine was terrified of Yoda and was definitely not his equivalent in the force which means it stands to reason his equal was still out there.
Darth Bane’s Rule of Two was flawed from the beginning. It did not teach the one thing that the Sith pursued. Breaking all their Chains. Darth Sidious was successful in wiping out their greatest enemy, but He was shackled with his Empire. Jar-Jar, however, was trained the true ways of the Ancient Sith. He would obtain Unlimited Power, and no one could ever bring him down.
This, he didn't work with Plagueis and Sidious, he looked at their machinations from the outside like an adult watching children play. He was disgusted by the banist sith and their dogmatic jedi-like self-impositions and "principles". He understood what a true sith and was the safeguard of that true knowledge. Like in the ancient times he used form I Shi-Cho but to an even higher mastery, fighting by following the true slight random fluctuations of the force but he masked that with another layer of randomness with his masterful idiot-like body language. Guess how those banist sith and those jedi ended up? Dead and scattered. He survived and remains in the shadows, continuing his work that no one in the galaxy understands or can counter until it's the moment for the unreversable strike.
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To be fair. If those after him had followed Bane’s rules, the Sith would be even stronger. But passing down the mantle of Sith Master was never to be taken through underhanded means. It was meant to be earned to 1v1 combat as a testament of one’s strength in the dark side. That’s not even addressing the sith that destroyed dark side knowledge, costing the order power.
Yeah but Barth Bane's Rule of Two was in direct response to the "Brotherhood of the Sith" which was promoted as an almost quasi socialist organization and a way for Sith to share power once they had acquired it. Which is VERY not Sith. So one master to have power and one apprentice to covet that power, learn, and eventually challenge that master and either become the new master or die... Much more Sith.
Plus it was practical. All the Sith were dead except Bane. There was a whole Jedi army out there. He just came upon a highly force sensitive and angry young girl, a natural apprentice to help him and carry on Sith traditions in the event of his death. (Because he was THE last Sith, if he dies now what?) He had already become disillusioned with The Brotherhood before all the Sith but him were killed (or had their consciousnesses forever trapped in a Force Bomb, whatever) but the Rule of Two thing was just as much a natural development as a result of his situation than a dedicated creed...
I really like the Darth Bane book triology. Especially the second book because of the no holds barred ending. Up there with my favorite Star Wars books.
The first Harry Potter movie villain was a perfect fool, a perfect JarJar
You had me at “Darth Jar Jar”
Imagine if Palpatin was still the apprentice when Anakin found out, that'd be a crazy plot twist to find out jar jar was darth bane.
I imagine that Jar Jar was trained by Darth Plagius in secret by a different name, and even taught Plagius's inner secrets of long lasting life, and altering Mitoclorien's.
My theory is that fun fan speculation is never a bad thing for a product line.
At the end of Attack of the Clones Count Dooku's speeder and spaceship looked like they were designed for a gungan, not a human.
They were Geonosian Vehicles...
Long being convinced of this. All the mouthing of lines and subtle hand gestures while others are talking that lead to furtherance of Sith goals. The balcony drop with the droid shooting at where he was and its head following his trajectory implies a great jump from a strange angle. When he, Obi-wan and Qui-Gon first enter the water he does a huge 20ft spinning leap/dive into the water - in this universe only force users are seen to be able to do this sort of acrobatics coupled with how he has a plodding walk and is extremely clumsy(!). His eyes are already Sith yellow. As noted in these comments; when the three of them enter the Gungan hidden city; it's Jar Jar who they freak about - not the two outsider aliens. When making their escape with the princess, he waves his hand at Padmes bodyguard who allows him to cut in front of him directly behind Padme - a bodyguard letting a unknown member of a race that they have constant conflict with ahead of him within reach of his charge just wouldn't happen. It is Jar Jar who creates the moment to interact with Anakin again by eating the lizard thing (using the living force when it senses it right to?) It's suggested in the novel that in the craft leaving the Gungan city that Qui-Gon "over dose it" when trying to calm Jar Jar; when he was only playing possum so he could concentrate bringing in a bigger fish to eat the one troubling them and their craft. Doing his hand waving to get promoted by the big fat Boss Gungan while verbally dismissing it. When "something goes wrong with the hyperdrive" upon their escape; we don't know or see what he did - only see him pulling back from it - but R2D2 did - that's why it zapped him, this in a roundabout way led to them finding Anakin. Quite a few other things also. I feel he was to be the Darkside equivalent to Yoda who was as in tune to the living force as Yoda is to the light and Sidious is to the Dark. I picture that fight between Yoda and Dooku and try to place Jar Jar in Dooku's place but with Jar Jar flipping around as much as Yoda. Would be sweet. Also the name Darth Tyranus is reptilian and suits Jar Jar better that Dooku; a quick swap of characters to suit a fickle George Lucas. Actually, if you take all of Dooku's lines and interactions (particularly with Obi-Wan) and mentally swap in Jar Jar, it suits it like a hand in a glove.
The initial pool jump is a great point, the other Gungans never displaying anything close to that in terms of sheer force-like acrobatics. After confirming the two Jedi had never met one of his species before, Jar jar knew they wouldn't realise his acro skill is unusual to his species!
I was convinced when they sold the toys as sets
They had the hero’s sets with Luke obi-Wan and rtd2. The villain had Vader Palpatine and jar jar
@@oberon5657 And Sith's arrogance means they couldn't resist the chance to get one more over on the Jedi. Hence the jump.
I find Count Dooku’s name interesting. It feels like a perfect Sith name for Jar Jar: Darth Dooku.
I’m betting Darrh Tyranus’ character in Ep. 2 was intended for Jar Jar.
It may also be why Ep. 2 fell flat. That reveal and storyline would have helped that movie.
Dooku also came out of nowhere. It would fit too good for that to be Jar Jar. Plus there are even scenes like the Obi Wan interrogation where part of the appeal seems obvious that the two know each other, and it would have been twice as impactful if Dooku were an established character. There's also that Dooku was the one interacting with the Kaminoans to make the clones, and it just fits so well with Jar Jar as it is a water planet
He 100% mind controlled the ENTIRE senate. He SMILES. There is absolutely ZERO reason he should be smiling at that moment unless he knew what palpatine really was.
ucas himself already confirmed that it was indeed his plan to make Jar Jar the big bad behind everything, but when the audience feedback bombed we ended up with Count Dookie and Greivous
its a damn shame. Imagine yoda vs darth jarjar, aka plagius....
not bad, dookie is whatever but the robot grevious guy with 4 arms is pretty bad ass in clone wars cartoon. i hope they reintroduce sith jarjar but as a neutral sith and introduce dark side but not evil side and light side but not Hero/good side concept. corrupted light, and a beneficial darkness.
@@GealuGalu That's an interesting idea, but not for Darth Jar Jar in particular. He already looks so goddamn creepy if you think of him as some sort of demon instead of a bumbling idiot, so go all out and make him the stuff of nightmares. The thing that every kid thinks is hiding under their bed.
When the topic of JarJar as a Sith lord arises, i always think about how his lightsaber fighting style would be. The most interesting take on JarJar Sith imo is when his personality or fighting style isn't changing after reveal, and he is actually that goofy light-hearted individual, but with great power, planning, and valiant mission of bringing a balance to the Force by expanding the Dark Side.
Imagine him charging his opponents with goofy battle cry, then "accidentally" losing the grip on his saber and, while awkwardly jiggling it in the air and "trying to catch it" cutting every Jedi around him into pieces in what looks like a sudden barrage of uncannily unpredictable strikes. Or when he dodges a force wave by sneezing, or thumbing. And while the enemies can not lay a single strike on him, alrady fully aware of the Jar Jar' style, only unable to counter it because you *can not predict his movement,* Jar Jar is constantly saying that he don't want to hurt anyone, still thinks of Jedi as friends and just wants the Force to come into balance, by any means.
In reference to Darth Jar Jar’s fighting skills. He always remind me of a Drunk Boxing Master. A type of Kung fu, that utilizes the appearance and actions of a drunkard to disguise blocks and attacks. Force your event to underestimate you based on your appearance, then make him pay for his assumptions.
I love Drunken Master!
How cool would it have been if Jar Jar dropped the accent near the end of episode 3 and started talking in a more dark tone and becoming the main villain of the prequels
“MEESA THE PHANTOM MENACE! MEESA ALWAYS BEEN THE PHANTOM MENACE!!” *-Darth Jar Jar from Lego Star Wars: Rebuild the Galaxy*
perhaps jar jar is actually force sensitive, but his powers lie in him not knowing. hes more like a spontaneous character in every moment, rather than relying on thought. the force uses him as a gray zone. maybe, but i do like the theory that jar jar is a darth lord. my goodness, i would love for them to confirm that.
good catch
Like he uses the force intuitively. Reminds me of Ubel from Frieren. Has a completely different perspective from other mages/force sensitives.
It makes sense that Palpatine would recruit a local follower strong in force even if he's seen as an expendable agent. While Darth Maul on the other hand works as the overt threat the Jedi. Thus he catches them in a pincer movement.
Considering Palpatines covert plans, and how aggressive Maul is during the Phantom Menace, I don't think Maul was ever his true apprentice, just an attack dog he kept on a short leash before loosing him on the Jedi to be put down.
he is also the one who sabotaged the engine forcing a emergency landing on tatooine (r2 almost catches him) and the picking up of anakin
Uh, what?
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If you recall when r2 'bumps' into jarjar when the ship was under attack. r2 isn't clumsy that's not it's character trait. R2 always runs into things on purpose, it was trying to stop jarjar from tampering with the engines before getting forced into it's duty.
afterwards, when they do land on tatooine, qui gon didn't want the queens double (padme) to go with them, but jarjar is behind her and the body guard mouthing word for word what the guard says when talking about the Queen wishing to see the local area ect.
then at the market it's jarjar who makes a commotion with subulba to get Anakin to take notice, only then does jarjar wave his hand to calm subulbas temper.
this video didn't really do a good job going over all the evidence for the theory as there's a lot more but that's explaining what you were replying to
@@petercottantail7850 I do know about that encounter, but don't forget, the ship was damaged, but only the power was fixed, not the leak. Who knows, maybe Jar Jar did cause a leak, but idk.
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Jar Jar also slyly mentioned the Gungan army to Padme in Phantom Menace, and suggested that the Gungan’s warrior nature is “why you no liking us, mesa thinks.”
That casual mention was the inspiration Padme needed to go fight back against the Trade Federation on her own, which eventually united Gungan and Naboo and led to the defeat of the Trade Federation.
Coincidence?! I THINK NOT!!!!!
Also… Sith have orange eyes. Jar Jar has orange eyes from the beginning.
All gungans seemingly can jump high, but all the other evidence points seem hard to argue with.
There's a couple more points to consider. First, the crimes Jar Jar committed in his home city were punishable with the death penalty. He must have done horrific things, and it makes his rise to general and ambassador even more unlikely without Sith mind-manipulation. Second, he was locked alone in the droid room shortly before R2-D2 was revealed as more than just a normal droid. I believe he had a hand in creating the single most pivotal character in all of Star Wars.
Did you ever notice, that while locked in the droid room, he fiddles with something, just before the shields fail? He did that
@@Pokemon-Kid112 Yeah, and people forget that they first have a fuel leak so they are forced to land on Tatooine, and then a hyperdrive failure to force them to stay. What are the chances they have both? Unless the Drunken Master of the Sith is doing it on purpose.
They really should have revealed JarJar as Snoke.
Besides solidifying the "Darth JarJar" theory, it would have made him the perfect antithesis to Yoda.
Yoda was...
Short, well respected, kept the odd speech pattern from his youth, and pretended to be something he's not then quickly had the truth of his nature revealed in his introduction.
JarJar as Snoke would have been...
Tall, looked down upon by all around him, altered his speech pattern in his new persona (Snoke), and not been truly known by the other characters or the audience until the very end.
Just realized after posting this, another argument for the two being counterparts is this....
BOTH would have been introduced as "comic relief". However, Yoda's reasons for being ridiculous were been to test Luke and see how impetuous/impatient he was. Overall, it was to improve him by teaching him patience and wisdom because he thought he had potential. Had JarJar been revealed as a Sith or other type of dark side user, then his introductory foolishness was not to help and improve those around him, but to confuse and distract them because he (would have) thought they were idiots who would never see his true self.
@@AustynSN I think he was also meant to be a reverse anakin and darth vader, as in goes to the light side and is THEIR darth vader. Darth Jar Jar...
The greatest Sith Lord to ever live and Lord Darth Jar Jar Binks shows that u don't need power but BRAINS....
I just thought of something. What if his Sith name was Darth Meesa and nobody realised that he was actually talking in third person the entire time? That would be some fun foreshadowing.
1 thing to note is Darth Jar Jar only allied with Palpatine and his master plan. The CIS attacking naboo, lead by another sith was completely unknown to him for a time, such was Palps's plan. Even upon finding out, Jar Jar knew what had to be done for the plan to come to fruition, and since the CIS attacked Naboo, he had no qualms playing his part fighting AGAINST the CIS. Mf was stupid-smart.
i whole heartedly believe that George Lucas intended for Jar jar Binks to be revealed as a sith strong in the dark side. (being Yodas story counterpart)
But since phantom menace did so poorly & jar jar was vocaly hated by so many, he decided to rewrite his reveal out. (perhaps giving Dooku his scenes)
imagine if it was Jar jar about to strike Anakin then Yoda comes in for the save , we would have a battle betwean the unassuming masters.
+worth noting is a key inspiration George has mentioned:Asimovs Foundation books, in wich there is a lovable clutz called "the mule" who turns out to be the main villain
The Phantom Menace did really well at the box office it was mixed positive with critics but Jar Jar was the character with the most backlash and took a lot of the criticism. That being said Lucas should have kept the plot line.
I like to believe that he even acted dumb when no one was watching because someone like Yoda would almost immediately detect the dark forces emanating from him
Meesa going to hurt yousa.
- Darth Jar Jar
Don't forget the Gungans were very nervous to see Jar Jar arriving in the city.
I've always heard people complain that Darth Jar Jar would have been stupid with his speech patterns and look, but there is a way the reveal could have been epic. Imagine the point where the heroes discover Jar Jar is a Sith lord. At first Jar Jar deny's it in his usual dumb ways, but during his monologue goes on, his speech patterns turn normal, his voice becomes much more sinister, and his face begins to melt off, revealing he was never even a Gungan at all. Jar Jar then strait up murders a bunch of nameless Jedi and makes his escape. It all could have been epic and terrifying.
“Somehow…Jar Jar returned.”
My favorite evidence for this is that Force Luck is a canon thing and we CONSTANTLY see Jar Jar use it
I wish Lucas would just admit it.
IMO I always fell that Jar Jar is actually controlled by the force embodying the chaos created by him.
Years ago, I started trying to run a Star Wars RPG campaign where the plot involved something called "Project Skywalker," wherein Sidious was using Anakin's severed hand to cultivate Midichlorians to embue others with Force powers and create an army of engineered Force warriors. My plan was to have Jar Jar sell out the Republic and motion for Palpatine to take power in order to be given Force powers from this scheme. Really frustrating to discover this theory existed years later.
What if JarJar isn't acting with intention, but is so pliable that the dark side just operates through him?
Mind blown. That explains so much. Jar Jar is more of a wet-ware NPC than the droid bots.
You guys hear that that new Lego Star Wars has Darth Jar Jar as an official character? lol
Watching this after the new Lego game trailer !! 🤣☠️☠️
It’s not a game, but still very cool
As a kid I always thought jar jar was going to be a sith lord because of his yellow eyes. I thought I was crazy though because no one believed me.
This is probably the best breakdown of the theory i've seen, hitting all the major points. Maybe only a few subtle hints could have been added, but very well done video.
He was absolutely supposed to be the reveal in Episode 2 instead of making Count Dooku. Similar to the 2nd part of the original trilogy the reveal of Vader being Luke's father.
00:13 Darth Tyranus: "What am I, chopped liver?"
You forgot to explain how it just got crazier in 2024... all you did was rehash and review what we already knew
I'm poor, gimme saber lol
As much as I like this theory it's a bit unlikely, Sith don't just train themselves generally, they all follow the rule of one excluding Palpatine taking on two apprentices.
Palpatine was the only one kinda flexible on this so I don't see his master Plagueis having multiple apprentices so Jar Jar would have to be another secret apprentice of Palpatine; that too is unlikely as he would have been more useful to Palpatine and Maul's assassination of the prophecy's chosen one(at that time's chosen one if you subscribe to Anakin being the chosen one)
If he is a Sith and using force cloak to block Jedi and the public alike to his true form and utilizing an advanced form of combat(drunken fist type style) then that seems too advanced for a Sith apprentice so could he be Plagueis' master?
That's unlikely given Plagueis' and Palatine's age and the fact we see Jar Jar's home and father so he's probably not that old in comparison unless there's some lore I don't know about with how long Gungans live and have long life spans that would make that scenario possible.
A lot of what if's.
I think Occam's Razor is probably the best route here, he's most likely not a Sith
But idk
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