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@@theaddictofgaming9174 Actually hold on I think It may have actually been satire post. I’m sorry for the misinformation. The concept of that is pretty crazy though. I honestly thought it was real
Kit & Krysta were talking about this on their podcast recently, and they said that Nintendo does definitely stay aware of fan sentiment and campaigns, even though that may not often result in fans actually getting what they want. So I’m sure they were aware of your campaign Arlo - and maybe, just maybe, in this case it did just help to boost an internal proposal for a remake. Certainly won’t have harmed it!
My headcanon for the current Raycon story arc is that Arlo getting everything he's wanted over the last decade in a single year has contradicted natural law so much the universe is breaking down
This video feels like the climax of arlo’s character arc, the conclusion after the climax of the initial reaction and the falling action of the core thoughts video he posted afterwards. So much rising action for 6 long years and now the story is complete.
“A gaming monster dreamed a dream, and dreamed the dream till rainbow gleam. For the dream machine that filled his soul, had once again made his heart full.”
I think the main reasons they chose to remake TTYD over PM64 are these: 1) PM64 is on NSO, and it's been rereleased on Virtual Console on both Wii and Wii U. TTYD has never been rereleased 2) GameCube remakes/remasters are hot right now 3) TTYD doesn't have to remake character sprites. They have all the old vector artwork from the OG game. That meant much less of a workload than PM64 would require. It's just adding onto the models to have fancy new back poses and extra animations.
I just hope there is a classic mode setting I can use like The Master Chief Collection to satisfy purists like me. I don't care why it's happening. I just want the old experience back in every single aspect of the game. If it doesn't happen, that's fine. I'll be let down with it like I was when it was announced but I get that we can't always get everything we want. This is a new TTYD, not the old one.
@narcosis1507 They do, but PM64 was sprite-based. TTYD's character designs were made using vector artwork, which can be scaled up to any resolution. They'd have to make all new models, or create new ones using other assets as a base.
It was stated in an interview for PM64 that they used the Super Famicom development tools to make the 2D graphics for that game, meaning they were drawn as low resolutions sprites for that game first and have no vector/source artwork like every later game. @@narcosis1507
@@pacack824 Thank you! Honestly, I picked this before I knew about the connection (I like history) but now I feel better about keeping it this whole time.
I’d say it played a big part for sure at the bare minimum. A lot of us were just very vocal about TTYD & the classic formula for so long & a lot of people’s voices ringing that, us included, spread like wildfire so it was clear most people rung those same or similar tunes across Nintendo/Mario/Paper Mario fans. The fact they’re raising the call to remaster TTYD in making it a remake instead feels like it’s signifying more. At least we know they heard us & are throwing us a bone but between TTYD’s MO is everything Mario couldn’t be throughout the 2010s, a lot of Mario games on Switch breaking from those standards/rules (Odyssey, Rabbids, Wonder, Peach Showtime, etc.) and Nintendo’s re-embracing the one Paper Mario they couldn’t replicate by even a decent margin (& they repurpose assets for these games alot, CS is for TOK so this remake doing the same’s likely), I think this dare I say maybe a safe bet we’re getting what we want when the next new Paper Mario comes around. Full hope has been restored & for good reason. ❤
Yeah seems like if it wasnt for fan outcry...pm64 would have been thr obivud first choice to remaster. Or maybe it being on pm64 online is what made them do ttyd. Since were probably never getting a Gamecube online lmao they hate giving us gamecube games😆
The movement you started did gain a pretty big following. Surely, it must have at least somewhat lead to Nintendo's final decision. The important thing is, you won. We won. And soon, we shall bask in the spoils. Congratulations.
I'm pretty skeptical about that considering in general we've been getting lots of remakes but until a Nintendo themselves comes out and gives the reason then I suppose i can't rule it out.
@lambybunny7173 Hmm I've been wondering that too and I think it's because Paper Mario 64 Has already been ported a few times. TTYD hasn't at all so it was better suited to be remade since the only way to play TTYD prior to the remakes announcement was only on GameCube (no emulator)
I'd say that it probably played a role, but the fact that it's also coming after a Super Mario RPG remake suggests to me that there has also been an overall change in incentives at Nintendo in regard to Mario RPGs.
That's exactly what I was thinking. Every Paper Mario After Super got compared directly and unfavorably to Thousand Year Door, and the hashtag was just one part of that outcry.
The thing that's still nuts to me is how we went from color splash's reveal like "hey look guys, new paper mario. Anyways here's Pokemon..." to the TTYD Remake being the *BIG CLOSING ANNOUNCEMENT* for the Direct Also, gotta love the muppets movie reference at the end
Hearing that song at the end almost made me emotional...You started as a Muppets fan, now you get to do what you love and make so many people happy. Congratulations Arlo! 😊
I've never played a Paper Mario game myself, always was more into the Mario & Luigi series (RIP) but from what I've heard from their fans, the first two aren't just good, they're truly magical experiences. The pure excitement from everyone rejoicing over The Thousand Year Door remake was enough to get me to download Paper Mario 64, and try it for the first time, absolutely cannot wait to try this series!
People like to hate on Super Paper Mario but it really does have the same amazing feel and charm of the previous two - it's just a weird sidescroller instead of an RPG, so it often gets compared negatively. But Super Paper Mario absolutely deserves to be on the "Pre Sticker Star" side of the argument - it is the exact opposite of "sanitised standard Mario"
I remember watching the original a few days before a smash tourney, and wrote the hashtag on a white t-shirt and walked around the venue with it. Got a lotta heck yeahs from people.
There was no one person or movement that single-handedly made the TTYD remake real, but voices like yours were very influential to those who may not have been willing to take a side without some guidance, and definetely boosted morale of the old guard like myself to know that we weren't alone in our seemingly futile stance. So thank you for everything you have done to help the community Arlo.😁 I have always stood tall and proud for my love for this game and what Paper Mario could become if Nintendo would just re-embrace their past success, and have fought countless people who were blissfully unaware of the nature of the situation or just couldn't bear the sight of someone telling Nintendo that their philosophy is wrong but the outcry of fans in the West and the East by ensuring that new PM games didn't sell too well has finally persuaded Nintendo to at least try the old formula again. And now that the our time had come we need to milk it for all its worth. Tell every Nintendo fan you know to buy this game everyone!!! If this fails now by falling into obscurity we have no one but ourselves to blame if Paper Mario just goes back to being gimmicky and bland. Speak with your wallets now or forever hold your peace, that that speaks louder to Nintendo than any social media post.
I think the GX interview likely kicked the ball off. Talking to someone involved in the studio giving them some notice. Then things like the fan campaign drawing up attention (that _maybe_ NoA informed them of), PM64 coming to NSO (less reason to choose that), GC remakes/remasters getting pushed out and it being TTYD’s 20th anniversary. I think a bunch of smaller reasons built up at just the right time for it to all come together.
I honestly wonder if it was a combination of things. Like, you even mentioned the interviews asking about a Thousand Year Door remake or talking about the restrictions put on them. So they were seeing this from a few sides. I kinda wonder if one of those sides was internally. I can't imagine a lot of the developers were happy being so hamstrung on what ideas were allowed, especially when you see other games getting away with being weird with Mario. And even Origami King felt like it was really trying to push up against that line as hard as it could with the dumb restrictions they were limited by (for... some reason? I still don't understand what happened there). I just kind of wonder if this is a battle they've been trying to fight internally for awhile now and the fan outcry maybe gave them some extra ammunition to say "see, people want this!" Pure guess on my part mind you. Either way, I think the biggest reason is probably just the timing working out perfectly. Nintendo needs cheap, easy to produce stuff to put out in the Switch's dying years while the main dev teams move on to Switch 2 projects. They had Origami King on the Switch that they could probably cannibalize an engine from to do this port (and subsequently that might also be a reason it wasn't a Super Paper Mario remake - that game is too different). There's obvious interest in Thousand Year Door while Paper Mario 64 can easily be played on Switch already and the game is old enough that a remake makes sense. In a way, the stars kinda aligned for this one I think.
Not only I think the outcry and movement helped TTYD get a remake, but I like to believe Intelligent System is aware of the complains and want to come back to the original RPG formula, so a remake of the best one will help them understand what made it great to then let the next entry be an actual RPG
It does make sense timeline wise. Back when your video was posted they were probably in the middle of finishing up Origami King. And they might have seen the hashtag and movement during their next game's planning stage (alongside probably having been asked for YEARS besides the interview), and then went ahead with TTYD~ and I feel like its more of a "Okay lets see how well it would actually do. Are the fans right?"
@@LeoSmashRoyale awesome games done quick and summer games done quick. They are a speed running community who raise money for charity. They do a variety of games and genres.
@@genzsavedamerica2234 That's assuming that everyone who would buy a remake of TTYD signed the petition, which seems unlikely. I mean, Bug Fables has sold about 132k units (according to VGInsights) and there are plenty of people who wouldn't normally buy Bug Fables that have a good chance of getting the TTYD remake, in particular fans of The Origami King who want to know what all the fuss is about.
@@genzsavedamerica2234 Generally speaking, people usually don’t sign petitions that they agree with. It’s an extra series of steps to engage with them that they’d rather not go through. Similar to just reading headlines; it’s quicker to like and share the post than go through the whole thing. To put it in a sentence: More people will buy it than just the petition signers.
Arlo, videos like this are why I just love your channel. You're very down-to-earth, but also very positive and it's just such a breath of fresh air. That said? I think you totally played a part in this happening.
I think that you specifically (and a few other TH-camrs) are a massive reason we are receiving this game. This is my favorite game of all time and it almost brings me to tears to hear someone who loves it as much as I do speak on it. From the bottom of my heart, thank you.
That may be the best ending to a video I've seen in YEARS. That was fantastic. Also, Arlo sings really well. You should consider doing a musical episode one day. Just for fun.
I finished TTYD Remake and found something very interesting in the end credits. The final line of the Specil Thanks section has the text “And YOU.” This might not mean anything but to my knowledge we’ve never seen this in a Nintendo game before. So I think that line in the credits is a clue that the game was remade out of fan demand.
I mean, Arlo was the one to truly start the hashtag, he's been the ambassador even before all the shit with Emile. I'll always see Arlo as the Moses of this fanbase
For the record, there was at least one other occasion where fans caused a change with Nintendo. It’s how we finally got Xenoblade Chronicles in the West, after all.
That ending...brought a massive smile to my face. Hey Arlo...do more of that stuff. Better yet, make a dedicated channel for it. Just give us more of it.
That remake news brought me back to my childhood. The joy I felt playing games before and after school. On the bus and on trips. Yes it worked and I'm so happy.
That ending made me feel happy, like we might see arlo and the muppets some day perform together, ttyd is coming, and i truly belive you did that arlo, so thanks blue man
8:47 Still Arlo, congratulations. TTYD's remaster is one of the few Mario games I will play as of late despite how mentally and emotionally taxing Mario has been for me as of late (alongside Super Mario RPG) BECAUSE I want to support this and give them the message that THIS is what they will be getting money for. Congratulations to classic Paper Mario fans (even if one deranged classic Paper Mario fan made me extremely angry on Twitter today, why do I even bother? I hate the Mario fandom so much lately) I'm glad you guys won after all this time! I want a Koopaling game or at least a Larry Koopa game because the Koopalings have so much personality that making them protagonists is the perfect way to use them... Well... I might give them individual modes so their personalities can shine on an individual level because THAT'S the right way to use them... I know it'll never happen though...
I've never played TTYD and haven't played a Paper Mario game outside of 64, but the infectious adoration for this game from you and many others has convinced me to at least support the release and give it a go. I may have passed on Pikmin since I don't like time constraints, but I'm gonna give TTYD a fair shot.
I’m writing before watching the video. If I had to guess, Nintendo saw that people didn’t like the style of sticker star and color splash and assumed that meant people specifically didn’t like that style. And at that point they switched to the Origami King format until somewhat late in development of that game they found that people were more so just looking for the old style back and that’s why we’re getting TTYD (also 20th anniversary helps that).
The only „style“ people want is a believable world with varied characters and stories, and the idea that Intelligent Systems would be surprised by that is so funny to me like DUH that was the point of the series to begin with
Overall, I think Intelligent Systems listens to the fans of their franchises a lot more than we think they do. In terms of FE, Fates was a response to how Awakening's map design was a little lackluster in a lot of places and didn't quite feel like an "old-school" FE game with Conquest, while with Birthright, still catering to those who started with Awakening and wanted more of what it had to offer, while overall trying to make the story more complicated and interesting in comparison to Awakening (though mostly for worse.) Then, seeing the fallout from Fates, Shadows of Valentia was made to get a better focus on story and characters and then with Three Houses, even though IS didn't directly make that game, was made to fully capitalize on the potential Fates had with multiple routes that you didn't have to additionally buy. Heck, even Warioware: Move It seems like a response to how Get It Together wasn't quite a "traditional" Warioware game and that the Joycons have a lot of potential for microgames. It seems that Nintendo as a whole, while still definitely not always listen to what fans have to say, seem a lot more receptive to what fans have to say now than they did in the last two generations, given how many of the Switch's titles are exactly what fans are asking for. Even Pokemon might make some changes to their internal development cycle if some recent interviews are to go by. I can absolutely see how the Switch's successor, probably due out next year, could have even more of this and I couldn't be more excited. Who knows, maybe even an FE4 Remake DOES exist (though that might just be hopeful thinking on my part.)
If you look at the development timelines of recent Paper Mario games, there is actually a lot of evidence that Nintendo ARE aware, at least somewhat, of fan reception to these games. Color Splash was stated, I think in the same 2016 interview referenced in this video, to be started work on IMMEDIATELY after Sticker Star, leaving no time to gauge critical reception. And after that game came out, we got Origami King, which does feel like it attempts to respond to the criticisms of Sticker Star and Color Splash by creating a new battle system and adding partner...ish characters. The way I see it, Origami King comes out and gets a mixed reception, Intelligent Systems doesn't have a new idea for a PM game or are looking for something to make for Switch before the next system comes out, and they throw their hands up and say "Alright, let's remake the one people keep asking for"
In my opinion, yes, in the sense that it showed Nintendo that this was the Paper Mario game to remake specifically. I’m sure they wouldn’t have if they weren’t planning on a remake, but they were probably planning on remakes as the games other than Wonder to wind down the Switch’s life cycle, and it would not surprise me at all if TTYD was considered before 64 or Super thanks to its very vocal fanbase
I choose to believe you had some hand in this becoming reality, even if it was just one developer who saw your video, brought it up to just enough people that it eventually reached the ears of the higher ups, and it got the ball rolling that way
I’m reminded of the “Operation Starfall” campaign (that also launched in 2019, coincidentally enough), the whole point of which was to get a sequel to Super Mario RPG, have the original game remade, and/or see Geno and Mallow in more modern games. They even sent Nintendo a book of all the signatures, letters, and fan art they collected right to Nintendo of America (who sent back a bunch of neat stuff like bookmarks and pins). We did eventually get that remake, but was Operation Starfall partially responsible for it? Hard to say, to be honest. You never know with these kinds of things…
Arlo please we need more scenes like the ending! (And more muppets references) I would honestly watch an entire video of you just messing around and singing. Some of my favorite videos are you singing the songs of ocarina of time and playing with zelda action figures. And I always look forward to your christmas songs
I remember being part of that trend. I never felt so boiled when I saw the newest paper mario game. Then, I moved on. So thankful the remaster happened.
One of the quests in TTYD where you have to take a routing slip for Mayor Dour, theres a little line he says at the end after the quest saying "Maybe youll be joining us in 20 years? Haaaaaaaar" which... maybe... this was something in the making for that time...
I honestly feel like they were going to do a paper Mario remake of either the original or TTYD but because the vocal majority was paper Mario TTYD and Arlo’s influenced helped drive it, I would say it definitely helped decide which title would get the remake.
I think the original being remade was never going to happen just because you can already play it on the switch. For example Mario rpg isn’t on nso and Nintendo is remaking it. Just my opinion though I have no clue their reason. I don’t think Nintendo will ever add GameCube emulation purposely to remaster the games like Pikmin 1 and 2 and Metroid prime .
While a 64 remake first might sound like a good idea it doesn't actually make sense. TTYD is just a better game, and feels much more modern. Because the stories are only barely connected it doesn't matter which people play first.
@@TimDespairBear11 Problem with this argument is that most of the gamecube remasters sell like shit. Metroid Prime did absolutely awful numbers and when that's the best gamecube game and it's selling like that it tells you gamecube should probably just go on NSO. The TTYD remake will sell much better, but that's because it's an actual remake. People want to play it even if they can already play the original, and even if they just don't enjoy playing retro games. And they can keep doing that with GC on NSO.
@@bobpotato1231 Metroid prime was pretty much a full remake as well. All of the textures were updated. Metroid always kinda sells bad honestly, and prime was shadow dropped with no hype or marketing behind it. dread sold decent but it’s never as popular as Mario or Zelda. Its unfortunate as it’s my favorite franchise. Imagine if they remastered melee or wind waker, those would sell in droves. Im almost convinced GameCube nso will never happen but we’ll see.
The most plausible explanation: Future you played and beat Super Mario RPG remake. After the credits had finished, you looked out your window, into the night sky. A shooting star graced the horizon for a flicker of a moment, and you made a wish. You wished that TTYD would get a remake… then you amended, frantically, that the remake was already on its way. Having just repaired the Star Road, your wish was heard. Past you was getting a TTYD remake. Don’t forget to finish Super Mario RPG when it comes out. It may change the past again, taking away our precious TTYD remake.
To me TTYD Remake is a confluence of reasons that lead to them both not having an idea for a new Paper Mario but a need for a more robust Mario RPG. 1. Alpha Dreams closure means no Mario and Luigi 2. Mario movie happens as a direct result of Nintendo opening up their licensing options 3. Peach Showtime is planned to capitalize the new influx of young casual players from the movie. Nintendo has TWO empty slots for Mario RPGs, but no empty slots for a super casual game the likes of Sticker Star or Color Splash. The option of remastering previous RPGs seems valid, especially considering we're nearing the end of Switch's lifespan. This is 100% happening because they've found a new scapegoat for a casual adventure game and whatever potential ideas they have for new Mario RPGs isn't ready yet.
As someone who's been at a bunch of AAA studios, though not Nintendo specifically, here's what probably happened: There are likely people inside Nintendo who were impassionately arguing to remake thousand year door for many years. This is inevitable. All large companies have people arguing for all the positions at all times, and only appear to march in lockstep from the outside. The "if we get enough public noise for it, we might" is a signal that the voices were VERY loud already, and wanted to reach for public comments to support their internal arguments. I've done this myself, there's something about showing a massively upvoted reddit post or massively liked tweet from actual players that just feels REAL in a way market data or theoretical arguments don't feel real. I've often used such posts myself when augmenting my own case. So you're right to doubt that your campaign by itself stirred an impassive Nintendo to action, but your campaign was like handing out water to the marathoners, you gave them support and fuel to push through the remake. That surely made a difference in making their jobs easier, and helping them get it over the finishline. Great job.
I have never worked in an AAA studio, but I've heard of this happening multiple times and saw it with my own eyes when Guilty Gear Strive put out at least 3 different surveys asking people how important good netcode is in a fighting game. And just seeing tweets from people at Arcsys saying they want to add good netcode, but the guys in charge of the money don't see the point. So yeah this sounds like a pretty common thing.
Arlo is as responsible for this as JoCat is for the Klonoa remakes. Which is to say entirely and completely, shower them both in praise and gratitude, if we do it hard enough JelloApocalypse will resurrect Skies of Arcadia!
Nintendo is on the website, so it makes sense that they heard the petition. We want Super Paper Mario next though, we're not done squeezing out this sponge.
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I always love when Arlo's love for the Muppets is brought in.
And the Muppets freaking denied Arlo for being a gamer. Smh
@@DaGhostToastRoastwait, actually?
@@theaddictofgaming9174 Actually hold on I think It may have actually been satire post. I’m sorry for the misinformation. The concept of that is pretty crazy though. I honestly thought it was real
@@DaGhostToastRoast It seems completely plausible in the lore of the Muppets but nonsensical in the real life-operation
@@theaddictofgaming9174 It was an Onion article
Kit & Krysta were talking about this on their podcast recently, and they said that Nintendo does definitely stay aware of fan sentiment and campaigns, even though that may not often result in fans actually getting what they want.
So I’m sure they were aware of your campaign Arlo - and maybe, just maybe, in this case it did just help to boost an internal proposal for a remake. Certainly won’t have harmed it!
This makes it funnier then that they decide to terminally ignore Mother fans lol.
@@kutami2951 I mean, they DID release Mother 1 & 2 for the Switch
(but yeah, Mother 3 is forever ignored lol)
Mother 3 is a different issue though because I'm pretty sure it has some copyright problems?? Please correct me if I am wrong, though
@@HydrainaI never really heard of that happening
@@Hydraina Think it’s more about issues with some of the content.
My headcanon for the current Raycon story arc is that Arlo getting everything he's wanted over the last decade in a single year has contradicted natural law so much the universe is breaking down
This video feels like the climax of arlo’s character arc, the conclusion after the climax of the initial reaction and the falling action of the core thoughts video he posted afterwards. So much rising action for 6 long years and now the story is complete.
Hooray recognition for saying what everyone was thinking
Now he can ride off into the sunset and finally write that book !
“A gaming monster dreamed a dream, and dreamed the dream till rainbow gleam. For the dream machine that filled his soul, had once again made his heart full.”
Now we need TTYD to sell so well that they rerturn to their roots in the next installment.
I'm really looking forward to the epilogue where he reviews the remake lol
That ending was brilliant Arlo. I can tell that you’ve been waiting a long time to do that.
I think the main reasons they chose to remake TTYD over PM64 are these:
1) PM64 is on NSO, and it's been rereleased on Virtual Console on both Wii and Wii U. TTYD has never been rereleased
2) GameCube remakes/remasters are hot right now
3) TTYD doesn't have to remake character sprites. They have all the old vector artwork from the OG game. That meant much less of a workload than PM64 would require. It's just adding onto the models to have fancy new back poses and extra animations.
I just hope there is a classic mode setting I can use like The Master Chief Collection to satisfy purists like me. I don't care why it's happening. I just want the old experience back in every single aspect of the game. If it doesn't happen, that's fine. I'll be let down with it like I was when it was announced but I get that we can't always get everything we want. This is a new TTYD, not the old one.
how do you know they dont have the assets for PM64?
@narcosis1507 They do, but PM64 was sprite-based.
TTYD's character designs were made using vector artwork, which can be scaled up to any resolution. They'd have to make all new models, or create new ones using other assets as a base.
It was stated in an interview for PM64 that they used the Super Famicom development tools to make the 2D graphics for that game, meaning they were drawn as low resolutions sprites for that game first and have no vector/source artwork like every later game. @@narcosis1507
@@sentientwaffle6696yeah that sounds a little entitled
Obviously why else would they do this? You’re just that powerful Arlo
Hence why we got Metroid Dread and Pikmin 4
Well he DID shoot lasers out of his eyes.
That’s why he is the Puppet King
To repeat the cycle of course
Loved the ending bit. The editing in general is a lot more creative!
I noticed that too. I’m happy Arlo has a big enough audience that he now feels comfortable trying newer things
Hey, I recognize your profile pic! That's the painting Nintendo based their daitoryo hanafuda card art on! Neat choice!
@@pacack824 Thank you! Honestly, I picked this before I knew about the connection (I like history) but now I feel better about keeping it this whole time.
I hope the fine people at Raycon appreciate the work that Arlo puts into these sponsor segments. 😂
Sponsors have to watch these videos and approve of them before TH-camrs post it
The J. P Beubian method!
@@OhsoWoobieAppreciate and Approve are different things.
Nothing fine about Raycon whatsoever. They’re a scam
I’d say it played a big part for sure at the bare minimum. A lot of us were just very vocal about TTYD & the classic formula for so long & a lot of people’s voices ringing that, us included, spread like wildfire so it was clear most people rung those same or similar tunes across Nintendo/Mario/Paper Mario fans. The fact they’re raising the call to remaster TTYD in making it a remake instead feels like it’s signifying more. At least we know they heard us & are throwing us a bone but between TTYD’s MO is everything Mario couldn’t be throughout the 2010s, a lot of Mario games on Switch breaking from those standards/rules (Odyssey, Rabbids, Wonder, Peach Showtime, etc.) and Nintendo’s re-embracing the one Paper Mario they couldn’t replicate by even a decent margin (& they repurpose assets for these games alot, CS is for TOK so this remake doing the same’s likely), I think this dare I say maybe a safe bet we’re getting what we want when the next new Paper Mario comes around.
Full hope has been restored & for good reason. ❤
Omg it’s the guy that destroyed his lungs over the TTYD remake
Omg it's the guy that speculated on a new Mario & Luigi game just a few days before Alphadream declared bankruptcy
@@sahaprocks7751Lmao!🤣
Yeah seems like if it wasnt for fan outcry...pm64 would have been thr obivud first choice to remaster. Or maybe it being on pm64 online is what made them do ttyd. Since were probably never getting a Gamecube online lmao they hate giving us gamecube games😆
The beginning of a new Mario Renaissance
That ending tho. Right in the Muppet nostalgia feels.
Right 😭😭
This is exactly what I thought of when the remake was announced. I was just thinking "Arlo won!"
Same!
“Remaster” but yes👍🏻
@@krisisgod666technically it is a remake
Me as well
i was thinking "oh thats cool I get to play a great game remastered" but i guess im not parasocial enough for the club
The movement you started did gain a pretty big following. Surely, it must have at least somewhat lead to Nintendo's final decision. The important thing is, you won. We won. And soon, we shall bask in the spoils. Congratulations.
Agreed
I'm pretty skeptical about that considering in general we've been getting lots of remakes but until a Nintendo themselves comes out and gives the reason then I suppose i can't rule it out.
It could've. Either way I'm happy.
@@nekonomicon2983I mean, why would they remake TTYD before the original? It's a strange decision for sure
@lambybunny7173 Hmm I've been wondering that too and I think it's because Paper Mario 64 Has already been ported a few times. TTYD hasn't at all so it was better suited to be remade since the only way to play TTYD prior to the remakes announcement was only on GameCube (no emulator)
The ending warmed my heart. We love you, Arlo!
I'd say that it probably played a role, but the fact that it's also coming after a Super Mario RPG remake suggests to me that there has also been an overall change in incentives at Nintendo in regard to Mario RPGs.
I'm not sure the hashtag actually worked, but the outcry for older Paper Mario in general was definitely heard
That happens if you cry over every new PM game since SPM.
That's exactly what I was thinking. Every Paper Mario After Super got compared directly and unfavorably to Thousand Year Door, and the hashtag was just one part of that outcry.
It’s impossible to not smile while watching this, especially the ending! We really did it :)
That's possibly one of the best ads you've ever done and I love it! Arlo is a comedic genius.
As someone who usually skips sponsored ads, Arlos ads are the very rare exception for me personally. He's lucky that I find them funny.😆
The thing that's still nuts to me is how we went from color splash's reveal like "hey look guys, new paper mario. Anyways here's Pokemon..." to the TTYD Remake being the *BIG CLOSING ANNOUNCEMENT* for the Direct
Also, gotta love the muppets movie reference at the end
Hearing that song at the end almost made me emotional...You started as a Muppets fan, now you get to do what you love and make so many people happy. Congratulations Arlo! 😊
The combined efforts of Arlo, Chuggaaconroy, and the rest of the community truly worked
This may have been the most perfect ending to a TH-cam video I've ever seen. Congrats, Arlo...this is the year that all your dreams came true.
Isn't that next year? I'm pretty sure he wanted to play the game too.
I'm so invested in the raycon storyline
Now imagine a special thanks in the credits of the remake towards the movement and Arlo for being so passionate about the game.
If that happens, it would be amazing
I've never played a Paper Mario game myself, always was more into the Mario & Luigi series (RIP) but from what I've heard from their fans, the first two aren't just good, they're truly magical experiences. The pure excitement from everyone rejoicing over The Thousand Year Door remake was enough to get me to download Paper Mario 64, and try it for the first time, absolutely cannot wait to try this series!
You'll have a blast, PM64 is honestly tied with TTYD for me. It's just a more condensed and classic Mario experience
People like to hate on Super Paper Mario but it really does have the same amazing feel and charm of the previous two - it's just a weird sidescroller instead of an RPG, so it often gets compared negatively. But Super Paper Mario absolutely deserves to be on the "Pre Sticker Star" side of the argument - it is the exact opposite of "sanitised standard Mario"
I really wish Mario & Luigi would come back. I know Alpha Dream went defunct, but surely another dev can take the reins.
@@EarthboundBenjy I also think Origami King is as good as Super Paper Mario. I just hated Sticker Star, Color Splash, and Paper Jam if that counts.
Check out the mod TTYD64 for a mod that contains the best of both worlds
I remember watching the original a few days before a smash tourney, and wrote the hashtag on a white t-shirt and walked around the venue with it. Got a lotta heck yeahs from people.
Absolute Chad.😆👍
it's honestly a little inspiring when outcries like these actually work and big companies make a change. Love to see it
I can only hope it actually is the case. Otherwise it'll really make me lose hope.
There was no one person or movement that single-handedly made the TTYD remake real, but voices like yours were very influential to those who may not have been willing to take a side without some guidance, and definetely boosted morale of the old guard like myself to know that we weren't alone in our seemingly futile stance. So thank you for everything you have done to help the community Arlo.😁
I have always stood tall and proud for my love for this game and what Paper Mario could become if Nintendo would just re-embrace their past success, and have fought countless people who were blissfully unaware of the nature of the situation or just couldn't bear the sight of someone telling Nintendo that their philosophy is wrong but the outcry of fans in the West and the East by ensuring that new PM games didn't sell too well has finally persuaded Nintendo to at least try the old formula again. And now that the our time had come we need to milk it for all its worth. Tell every Nintendo fan you know to buy this game everyone!!! If this fails now by falling into obscurity we have no one but ourselves to blame if Paper Mario just goes back to being gimmicky and bland. Speak with your wallets now or forever hold your peace, that that speaks louder to Nintendo than any social media post.
I think the GX interview likely kicked the ball off. Talking to someone involved in the studio giving them some notice. Then things like the fan campaign drawing up attention (that _maybe_ NoA informed them of), PM64 coming to NSO (less reason to choose that), GC remakes/remasters getting pushed out and it being TTYD’s 20th anniversary. I think a bunch of smaller reasons built up at just the right time for it to all come together.
Oh GX as in GameXplain. I thought you meant Opera GX and was confused at first lol
Arlo fading out to a Muppets song is... pretty great
I honestly wonder if it was a combination of things. Like, you even mentioned the interviews asking about a Thousand Year Door remake or talking about the restrictions put on them. So they were seeing this from a few sides.
I kinda wonder if one of those sides was internally. I can't imagine a lot of the developers were happy being so hamstrung on what ideas were allowed, especially when you see other games getting away with being weird with Mario. And even Origami King felt like it was really trying to push up against that line as hard as it could with the dumb restrictions they were limited by (for... some reason? I still don't understand what happened there). I just kind of wonder if this is a battle they've been trying to fight internally for awhile now and the fan outcry maybe gave them some extra ammunition to say "see, people want this!" Pure guess on my part mind you.
Either way, I think the biggest reason is probably just the timing working out perfectly. Nintendo needs cheap, easy to produce stuff to put out in the Switch's dying years while the main dev teams move on to Switch 2 projects. They had Origami King on the Switch that they could probably cannibalize an engine from to do this port (and subsequently that might also be a reason it wasn't a Super Paper Mario remake - that game is too different). There's obvious interest in Thousand Year Door while Paper Mario 64 can easily be played on Switch already and the game is old enough that a remake makes sense. In a way, the stars kinda aligned for this one I think.
Loved the Rainbow Connection Finale, congrats Arlo, you deserve this win
Not only I think the outcry and movement helped TTYD get a remake, but I like to believe Intelligent System is aware of the complains and want to come back to the original RPG formula, so a remake of the best one will help them understand what made it great to then let the next entry be an actual RPG
I didnt even knew that Arlo started the whole Thousand year door remake movement. It gives me way more respect towards you!!
Arlo even makes his ads enjoyable
It does make sense timeline wise. Back when your video was posted they were probably in the middle of finishing up Origami King. And they might have seen the hashtag and movement during their next game's planning stage (alongside probably having been asked for YEARS besides the interview), and then went ahead with TTYD~ and I feel like its more of a "Okay lets see how well it would actually do. Are the fans right?"
I'm fully convinced you and Chugga are 100% the reason this game is coming. So thank you both!! I can't wait!
Speed runners too. Agdg does a paper Mario speed run at least every other year.
@courtneycherry5582 Nice! Out of curiosity, who is Agdg?
@@LeoSmashRoyale awesome games done quick and summer games done quick. They are a speed running community who raise money for charity. They do a variety of games and genres.
@@courtneycherry5582 Ah ok cool! I'll check them out
I'm thankful for all their help in getting it to happen!
I really want more alternate universe Arlo to make more appearances. Maybe in his universe there's remakes that aren't in ours...and vice versa.
I really hope that if it did work, Nintendo will be open to even more fan requests!
that will probably depend on how well the ttyd remake does money-wise, assuming the movement was part of their reasons for the remake.
@@kendallonian9753in that case they should be satisfied with 55,000 sales since that’s how many people signed the petition 😂
@@genzsavedamerica2234 That's assuming that everyone who would buy a remake of TTYD signed the petition, which seems unlikely. I mean, Bug Fables has sold about 132k units (according to VGInsights) and there are plenty of people who wouldn't normally buy Bug Fables that have a good chance of getting the TTYD remake, in particular fans of The Origami King who want to know what all the fuss is about.
@@genzsavedamerica2234 Generally speaking, people usually don’t sign petitions that they agree with. It’s an extra series of steps to engage with them that they’d rather not go through. Similar to just reading headlines; it’s quicker to like and share the post than go through the whole thing.
To put it in a sentence: More people will buy it than just the petition signers.
20 Years from now kids will say I want my paper mario color splash remaster and we will be like oh no..
Arlo, videos like this are why I just love your channel. You're very down-to-earth, but also very positive and it's just such a breath of fresh air.
That said? I think you totally played a part in this happening.
whether it was because of you or not, I am happy it actually happened
Pretty much my thoughts
Oh yeah can't complain about that at all.
We did it gang... I remember hearing this from Slick Frame James, and I feel so happy that everyone is finally getting the remake. Let's-a-go.
I think that you specifically (and a few other TH-camrs) are a massive reason we are receiving this game. This is my favorite game of all time and it almost brings me to tears to hear someone who loves it as much as I do speak on it. From the bottom of my heart, thank you.
That may be the best ending to a video I've seen in YEARS. That was fantastic. Also, Arlo sings really well. You should consider doing a musical episode one day. Just for fun.
I finished TTYD Remake and found something very interesting in the end credits. The final line of the Specil Thanks section has the text “And YOU.” This might not mean anything but to my knowledge we’ve never seen this in a Nintendo game before. So I think that line in the credits is a clue that the game was remade out of fan demand.
Well, Mario personally thanks you at the end of SM64. Does that count?
Nintendo is a company, companies generally enjoy profits, they realized "hey, re-releasing thousand Year door will make profits" and did so.
They had to wait long enough for fans to get this hyped.
Geez talk about keeping people waiting
3:26 Something tells me we won't be hearing about that TH-camr again anytime soon...
Congrats on being the new Paper Mario ambassador, Arlo
I mean, Arlo was the one to truly start the hashtag, he's been the ambassador even before all the shit with Emile. I'll always see Arlo as the Moses of this fanbase
For the record, there was at least one other occasion where fans caused a change with Nintendo. It’s how we finally got Xenoblade Chronicles in the West, after all.
That ending...brought a massive smile to my face.
Hey Arlo...do more of that stuff. Better yet, make a dedicated channel for it. Just give us more of it.
That remake news brought me back to my childhood. The joy I felt playing games before and after school. On the bus and on trips.
Yes it worked and I'm so happy.
That ending made me feel happy, like we might see arlo and the muppets some day perform together, ttyd is coming, and i truly belive you did that arlo, so thanks blue man
8:47 Still Arlo, congratulations. TTYD's remaster is one of the few Mario games I will play as of late despite how mentally and emotionally taxing Mario has been for me as of late (alongside Super Mario RPG) BECAUSE I want to support this and give them the message that THIS is what they will be getting money for. Congratulations to classic Paper Mario fans (even if one deranged classic Paper Mario fan made me extremely angry on Twitter today, why do I even bother? I hate the Mario fandom so much lately) I'm glad you guys won after all this time!
I want a Koopaling game or at least a Larry Koopa game because the Koopalings have so much personality that making them protagonists is the perfect way to use them... Well... I might give them individual modes so their personalities can shine on an individual level because THAT'S the right way to use them... I know it'll never happen though...
That sudden burst into the muppets was hilarious and I wouldn’t have had the ending be any other way
I've never played TTYD and haven't played a Paper Mario game outside of 64, but the infectious adoration for this game from you and many others has convinced me to at least support the release and give it a go. I may have passed on Pikmin since I don't like time constraints, but I'm gonna give TTYD a fair shot.
I’m writing before watching the video. If I had to guess, Nintendo saw that people didn’t like the style of sticker star and color splash and assumed that meant people specifically didn’t like that style. And at that point they switched to the Origami King format until somewhat late in development of that game they found that people were more so just looking for the old style back and that’s why we’re getting TTYD (also 20th anniversary helps that).
The only „style“ people want is a believable world with varied characters and stories, and the idea that Intelligent Systems would be surprised by that is so funny to me like DUH that was the point of the series to begin with
And my dream came true- Arlo sang a cover of The Muppets. Now dude just needs to get into a movie with them.
that's one heck of an ad read, Arlo is so dedicated to making his videos entertaining, even at the end of the universe
Overall, I think Intelligent Systems listens to the fans of their franchises a lot more than we think they do. In terms of FE, Fates was a response to how Awakening's map design was a little lackluster in a lot of places and didn't quite feel like an "old-school" FE game with Conquest, while with Birthright, still catering to those who started with Awakening and wanted more of what it had to offer, while overall trying to make the story more complicated and interesting in comparison to Awakening (though mostly for worse.)
Then, seeing the fallout from Fates, Shadows of Valentia was made to get a better focus on story and characters and then with Three Houses, even though IS didn't directly make that game, was made to fully capitalize on the potential Fates had with multiple routes that you didn't have to additionally buy.
Heck, even Warioware: Move It seems like a response to how Get It Together wasn't quite a "traditional" Warioware game and that the Joycons have a lot of potential for microgames.
It seems that Nintendo as a whole, while still definitely not always listen to what fans have to say, seem a lot more receptive to what fans have to say now than they did in the last two generations, given how many of the Switch's titles are exactly what fans are asking for. Even Pokemon might make some changes to their internal development cycle if some recent interviews are to go by. I can absolutely see how the Switch's successor, probably due out next year, could have even more of this and I couldn't be more excited. Who knows, maybe even an FE4 Remake DOES exist (though that might just be hopeful thinking on my part.)
If you look at the development timelines of recent Paper Mario games, there is actually a lot of evidence that Nintendo ARE aware, at least somewhat, of fan reception to these games. Color Splash was stated, I think in the same 2016 interview referenced in this video, to be started work on IMMEDIATELY after Sticker Star, leaving no time to gauge critical reception. And after that game came out, we got Origami King, which does feel like it attempts to respond to the criticisms of Sticker Star and Color Splash by creating a new battle system and adding partner...ish characters.
The way I see it, Origami King comes out and gets a mixed reception, Intelligent Systems doesn't have a new idea for a PM game or are looking for something to make for Switch before the next system comes out, and they throw their hands up and say "Alright, let's remake the one people keep asking for"
The editing feels really fresh on this video, well done Kane!
Thank you! 😊
First Metroid, then Pikmin, then this. Arlo is having the year of his life rn
That ending was perfect. Thanks Arlo as usual.
15:19 Arlo singing a Muppets song puts a beautiful touch to this situation, I love it.
Omygod THE ENDING I can’t. I love it
bro the muppets reference gave me chills and somethin in my eye, ALWAYS absolutely delightful when he gets to reference the fact he's a muppet
I love the raycon storyline! I do think that Arlo should do a compilation video for those not familiar though.
the muppet ending was genuinely beautiful when you think of how fitting it is for the ttyd fanbase's journey
In my opinion, yes, in the sense that it showed Nintendo that this was the Paper Mario game to remake specifically.
I’m sure they wouldn’t have if they weren’t planning on a remake, but they were probably planning on remakes as the games other than Wonder to wind down the Switch’s life cycle, and it would not surprise me at all if TTYD was considered before 64 or Super thanks to its very vocal fanbase
i did not expect this video to turn into a musical. we need more of Arlo singing.
I choose to believe you had some hand in this becoming reality, even if it was just one developer who saw your video, brought it up to just enough people that it eventually reached the ears of the higher ups, and it got the ball rolling that way
For what it’s worth, I more thought of Arlo as the “Pikmin Guy”
Hopefully, it outsells Sticker Star and Origami King.
I’m reminded of the “Operation Starfall” campaign (that also launched in 2019, coincidentally enough), the whole point of which was to get a sequel to Super Mario RPG, have the original game remade, and/or see Geno and Mallow in more modern games. They even sent Nintendo a book of all the signatures, letters, and fan art they collected right to Nintendo of America (who sent back a bunch of neat stuff like bookmarks and pins). We did eventually get that remake, but was Operation Starfall partially responsible for it? Hard to say, to be honest. You never know with these kinds of things…
i think its very likely that they remade The Thousand Year Door because the original is on NSO N64, and they wanted to avoid that affecting sales.
Arlo please we need more scenes like the ending! (And more muppets references)
I would honestly watch an entire video of you just messing around and singing. Some of my favorite videos are you singing the songs of ocarina of time and playing with zelda action figures. And I always look forward to your christmas songs
I'll be honest, my favorite Paper Mario game is actually Super Paper Mario on the Wii. The storyline and music from that game was so incredibly good.
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I completely agree. It ranks high on my list of favorite games of all time.
It's not perfect by any means, but it has just as much heart as its predecessors. Loved it.
It has an great story and music. I wish the gameplay was better though.
No it isn't
I love the sincerity at the end of the video. That you didn't cut away and go, nah. I really liked it. It warmed my heart.
I remember being part of that trend. I never felt so boiled when I saw the newest paper mario game. Then, I moved on. So thankful the remaster happened.
15:18 Arlo complets his transition to a muppet
ARLO YOU MADE THIS HAPPEN
Omg the dramatic music over the raycon ad 😂
That ending! I love it
One of the quests in TTYD where you have to take a routing slip for Mayor Dour, theres a little line he says at the end after the quest saying "Maybe youll be joining us in 20 years? Haaaaaaaar" which... maybe... this was something in the making for that time...
I honestly feel like they were going to do a paper Mario remake of either the original or TTYD but because the vocal majority was paper Mario TTYD and Arlo’s influenced helped drive it, I would say it definitely helped decide which title would get the remake.
I think the original being remade was never going to happen just because you can already play it on the switch. For example Mario rpg isn’t on nso and Nintendo is remaking it. Just my opinion though I have no clue their reason. I don’t think Nintendo will ever add GameCube emulation purposely to remaster the games like Pikmin 1 and 2 and Metroid prime .
While a 64 remake first might sound like a good idea it doesn't actually make sense.
TTYD is just a better game, and feels much more modern. Because the stories are only barely connected it doesn't matter which people play first.
@@TimDespairBear11 Problem with this argument is that most of the gamecube remasters sell like shit. Metroid Prime did absolutely awful numbers and when that's the best gamecube game and it's selling like that it tells you gamecube should probably just go on NSO. The TTYD remake will sell much better, but that's because it's an actual remake. People want to play it even if they can already play the original, and even if they just don't enjoy playing retro games. And they can keep doing that with GC on NSO.
@@bobpotato1231 Metroid prime was pretty much a full remake as well. All of the textures were updated. Metroid always kinda sells bad honestly, and prime was shadow dropped with no hype or marketing behind it. dread sold decent but it’s never as popular as Mario or Zelda. Its unfortunate as it’s my favorite franchise. Imagine if they remastered melee or wind waker, those would sell in droves. Im almost convinced GameCube nso will never happen but we’ll see.
The most plausible explanation:
Future you played and beat Super Mario RPG remake. After the credits had finished, you looked out your window, into the night sky. A shooting star graced the horizon for a flicker of a moment, and you made a wish. You wished that TTYD would get a remake… then you amended, frantically, that the remake was already on its way. Having just repaired the Star Road, your wish was heard. Past you was getting a TTYD remake.
Don’t forget to finish Super Mario RPG when it comes out. It may change the past again, taking away our precious TTYD remake.
Idk but I do expect a 5 hour video essay on the game after it releases lol
To me TTYD Remake is a confluence of reasons that lead to them both not having an idea for a new Paper Mario but a need for a more robust Mario RPG.
1. Alpha Dreams closure means no Mario and Luigi
2. Mario movie happens as a direct result of Nintendo opening up their licensing options
3. Peach Showtime is planned to capitalize the new influx of young casual players from the movie.
Nintendo has TWO empty slots for Mario RPGs, but no empty slots for a super casual game the likes of Sticker Star or Color Splash. The option of remastering previous RPGs seems valid, especially considering we're nearing the end of Switch's lifespan. This is 100% happening because they've found a new scapegoat for a casual adventure game and whatever potential ideas they have for new Mario RPGs isn't ready yet.
You predicted this remake.
Literally almost teared up at the end. Spectacular finish!!
Ok who else just loves the arlo ads they are so fun.
Me!
As someone who's been at a bunch of AAA studios, though not Nintendo specifically, here's what probably happened: There are likely people inside Nintendo who were impassionately arguing to remake thousand year door for many years. This is inevitable. All large companies have people arguing for all the positions at all times, and only appear to march in lockstep from the outside. The "if we get enough public noise for it, we might" is a signal that the voices were VERY loud already, and wanted to reach for public comments to support their internal arguments. I've done this myself, there's something about showing a massively upvoted reddit post or massively liked tweet from actual players that just feels REAL in a way market data or theoretical arguments don't feel real. I've often used such posts myself when augmenting my own case.
So you're right to doubt that your campaign by itself stirred an impassive Nintendo to action, but your campaign was like handing out water to the marathoners, you gave them support and fuel to push through the remake. That surely made a difference in making their jobs easier, and helping them get it over the finishline. Great job.
I have never worked in an AAA studio, but I've heard of this happening multiple times and saw it with my own eyes when Guilty Gear Strive put out at least 3 different surveys asking people how important good netcode is in a fighting game. And just seeing tweets from people at Arcsys saying they want to add good netcode, but the guys in charge of the money don't see the point.
So yeah this sounds like a pretty common thing.
The song at the end genuinely made me tear up
Arlo is as responsible for this as JoCat is for the Klonoa remakes. Which is to say entirely and completely, shower them both in praise and gratitude, if we do it hard enough JelloApocalypse will resurrect Skies of Arcadia!
That ending was adorable! 🥹 And who knew Arlos had such impressive pipes and vibrato to boot!
I love you cookie monster
This may be Arlo's best outro for a video yet. Good job, Arlo and Kane!
Nintendo is on the website, so it makes sense that they heard the petition. We want Super Paper Mario next though, we're not done squeezing out this sponge.
This was single handedly the best ending of an arlo video and I'm a huge fan of the 2020 christmas ends so that says a lot.
This was definitely a gift from the gods at Nintendo