@@TruthSeeker-rn1tm He's talking about Inarius not killing Lilith. Though he thought he did, granted how he thought a spear to the gut was a kill shot to a demon like Lilith is beyond me.
Hope Neyrel is offed in the first 10 minutes and we get an actual story. Mephisto at least has some narrative reason to want to fuck with us and get back at us beyond just "im big bad, I wander these lands and sometimes look straight into the camera" for 20 hours like Lilith.
2:45 "Over time, you realize neyrelle cannot do this alone". You mean literally one second after the campaign ends? Not a single player ever thought she was going to be ok lmao, that ending just doesn't make sense. Further proof that our protagonist is as dumb as a rock.
You mean sending a young girl alone through a jungle with the fate of the world on her shoulders and the most evil character in that world trying to corrupt her seems like a bad idea to you? I don't see a single thing that could go wrong
Yup. And you waited only 5 seasons to finally realize that she needs you help . Meanwhile millions of monsters were killed, thousands of loots were destroyed, hundreds of levels were reached and billions of gold were made. Like there’s nothing more important to do.
@@mcmarkmarkson7115 So if it was a boy who couldn't beat a zombie then it would've been fine? Like dude, the "DEI" isn't the problem, the fact they made her weak AF is.
It happened in d3 so of course it's going to happen again. They don't have a single creative bone among the entire dev team. They just copy other ARPGS.
@@appleonsauce2035 Agreed it will either happen to Neyrelle or they'll bait us into thinking it will happen to Neyrelle and then Lorath intervenes to sacrifice himself. I don't see them being much more creative than that.
I would like to see what happened with d3 main character, which Tyrael was feared of at the end. He seems to be forgotten, while having basically god level power. And other characters, like Zoltun Cull and his cube, would appreciate atleast to hear of. I like we got to see what happened with Act 2 main camp, ruined.
Yeah but girl-boss gotta girl-boss. Plus look at all the women talking throughout the video. I don't know how many did the programming or the art, but they sure talked a lot and probably decided the direction of the expansion
Holly hell, the first cinematics and alpha gameplay footage of the upcoming warcraft mmo in 2003-2004 had people FROTHING at the mouth. (No one has cared about Blizzard games now for a decade)
@@F0XRunnerwatching the tbc and wraith trailers were unreal as well. The hype the attention draw was crazy and that feeling will probly never happen in gaming again.
so we just get a hunch that this jackass is going to fail so we are now forced to go looking for her again (again again) because she cant just ask the person who KILLED LILLITH to help deal with it??? What kind of stupid logic is this?
Didn't this happen before, with Aidan? He was a wanderer trying to contain Diablo's essence, but he did so after slaying Diablo. Nyrelle here didn't slay any big bad demon, yet I'm expected to think she can do better? Are they gonna be like "but but see? she's asking for help, she's not gonna succumb to corruption because she receives your help".. I dunno man, Aidan couldn't do it, Tal'Rasha couldn't do it, heck even Leah in Diablo 3 couldn't do it. Aidan was a badass, Tal'Rasha had the Horadrim for help, including Zoltun Kulle, and Leah had the Nephalem and Tyrael and Zoltun and Deckard for a little while, not Adria though, that one was ebil already. And they didn't make it.
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Huh? I'm not sure I follow. Are you saying promotional material shouldn't mention anything about the plot? Cause that's not a Blizzard thing, that's an everything thing. I mean, have you ever seen people promoting a movie? They talk about the plot quite a lot, like it's a totally normal thing that people have been doing for decades. Have I misinterpreted your comment? Because this seems like a weird thing to take issue with.
@@AlanSmithee-r3tthis isnt a movie, thats the issue with the way these new people in the gaming sphere are, they try to make it like movies, but they arent movies, they are games.
@@AlanSmithee-r3t The emphasis should be on what you can "do" in it; not what "happens" in it. People who play games are interested in their agency in the game; what systems do they get to play with, what do they get to do in it. If you can convince them that the gameplay loop is fun to play with -- they will be hooked, the game will sell.
@@shev9127 and so mephisto is really evil! And we added this new cool stuff ! Its so cool you guys. And then this character is feeling these feeling because of these reasons. And then want to do that because they had that previous feeling. And you gonna be there watching it all unveil just like we are telling it to you! And its gonna be amazing you guys !! And we took inspiration of d2 and we heard you guys!! ***Preorders plzzzz****
"Nayrelle seeks a way to banish maphisto back to hell" - then why the F did she leave with the soul stone and say nothing to us the ones who beat Lilith? who the hell is writing this hot garbage? "In the events of Diablo 2, he was destroyed" - Yes, his soul stone was destroyed too, what the hell do you mean he was slowly resurrecting himself? I don't mind if they said something like Baal made makeshift soulstones for his brothers or w.e before we destroyed the world stone, but wtf was he resurrecting himself with a destroyed soul stone? at least D3 made some sense with Adria giving birth to a vessel for Diablo, Maphisto is just "nah fk it I'll just res myself without a McGuffin"
Mephisto and the rest of the Great Evils are immortal. The Soulstones exist to imprison their souls because their souls could just possess a human or go back to Hell and recreate their original body when defeated.
@@Nekogami04 upon further reading of the subject, I guess it does seem to be the case that they are immortal and the soul stones were not originally something they had it was something they created in order to manifest into sanctuary. That being the case, is this true for all demons, or all prime evils, or only the 3 brothers? That being said, Nayrell sneaking away with Maphisto's stone makes no sense.
Yes but I mean they are trying to add and change the story to keep the series going. Wonder what it’ll be like in Diablo 10. We’ll prob have Jesus returned taking over earths minerals as a demon..
I like to pretend their ear is moving and they're talking from that. It's less nauseating than watching badly performed corpo trailer speak. They could all be AI generated for as human as they sound.
Angel stabs a demon with angelic weapon....nada. Demon stabs an angel with an angelic weapon....death. Makes perfect blizzard sense. Always hated that part.
Same, however Lilith is female so she's gotta win. Inarius couldn't have just been injured n fled to repent on his actions. Just kill him off after so many years of ppl wanting him ingame.
This is a staple of a lot of fantasy writing and, to a lesser extent, sci-fi writing. Things often happen because the story needs them to happen, not because they make sense in that created world. Why doesn't Gandalf use his amazing powers all the time? Why don't the Jedi do the same thing? Why do super heroes only seem to have access to specific powers under specific conditions and not just wreck the enemies with their most powerful ability 24/7? The answer is: because it would create terrible stories. This is also why I'm not a fan of fantasy stories in general. You can only tolerate them if you shut your brain off.
Gandalf never really showed REALLY POWERFUL MAGIC. There wasn't really much omg super powerful magic. Then in top of that, him using extremely powerful magic if he had it would have drawn the attention of Sauron. Diablo 4 writing is just bad though. Whether it's fantasy or not it's bad. @@Annifloyd
@@Annifloyd In regards to Gandalf its explained that the Valar(Gods) forbid the Maiar(Angels) from using their magic/powers fully. The Wizards(Maiar) were sent more as guides and advisors. To set certain things in motion but ultimately it was up to mortals. This is just a quick summary.
I don't know, after 30 years the universe is so dead, the poeple interviewed all sound like people cosplaying a manga that was drawn before they were born, it's so cringe by now
Diablo4 Maingame: 90% of campaign was the HUNT for Lillith. I predict: 90% of the AddOn-campaign we will HUNT for this girl who carries the soulstone, only at the end she will ram the soulstone into her head (because SOOO iconic lelelelelel) and then we will defeat her/Meppl aaaaaaaaaaand thats it for today folks!
I love when writers are explaining their story and they say: “This girl is young and untrained but SOMEHOW she can carry this burden”. Like ah yes she can do this incredible thing just because with no explanation.
Can blizzard just shut the f up and play the trailer. I don't want to hear from the developers. Just be invisible and give us cool cinematics, I don't care about hearing your vision for the game, let me experience it.
Yes so... I am happy that everything I see confirms that I am not missing out on anything by not purchasing this expansion... POE2 is anyways just around the corner
Nayrel got too much attention randomly at the end of Diablo 4, and now they are doubling down on it. It was already annoying to begin with that she randomly got so important- to the extent that it was disrupting story flow
Big agree, but I mean are we really playing D4 for the story ? I kind of just enjoy blowing stuff up and watching my necromancer army dealing to demons.
@@Playfu1W1nd yes, because we are not playing it for the game play. If you play it for the feels, the story and visuals is what matters. If it was not for the story, you would not play Diablo at all.
Nayrel is just Leah of D3, probably going to turn into Diablo. The Devs telling those spoilers really kills the emersion and mystery of the story. Though with this rings of power level of story telling and writing there's really not much there.
I honestly hate this format. I wish they'd have like a voice actor doing a voice over of a trailer explaining all this. Use the game to sell itself They always have this weird tone for these showcases that I've never liked.
Really not into the token martyr child giving a literal Lord of Hell a run for his money corrupting her after already being the party's Moses in part 1.
With what blizzard/wow writing taught me, the ending of the expansion with either be Nayrell going on a psycho trip and fusing with the soul stone, or she’ll become a girl boss and shatter the stone herself. Regardless, I just hope we get a playable hellzone similar to D3 act 4 heaven, and an endgame akin to or better than what D4 currently has
The power of modern audience storytelling gives all the prime evils a run for their money. Why did she run off all "heroic" at the end? She's a strong independent hero who don't need no player.
Nah we will get diablo in the spin-off game instead. We'll be farming, literally. Growing crops and stuff. And diablo will be a shop owner, selling seeds and tools. He's gonna be so cute and harmless because devs (with pronouns shown on screen) said we want this game to feel like a warm hug.
5:52 Wait what….? When the world stone was forged? Is this a recon? The Worldstone is the Eye of Anu, origin creator of the entire Diablo universe. It was left behind on his death.
When Anu and Tathamet fought, the worldstone and pandemonium were the results It's only known as the Eye of Anu, or also as the World Forge, but it's not directly part of him It became the foundation of Sanctuary and it rose from it as an expression of Anu's creative spirit I think since D3 and other books the idea of the spirit realm, separated from the conflict has developed, since humans are of Sanctuary and don't directly belong to either the 7 hells or the high heavens
@@PrimalDirective yeah that’s a retcon then. Anu was the first being. Then Anu separated all his negative attributes from himself which created Tathamet. They fought until they both died. The corpse of Anu created the High Heavens. The corpse of Tathamet created the Burning Hells. From their corpses, Angels and Demons arose. They then fought over control of the Eye of Anu (also known as the World Stone) on the Fields of Eternity. Eventually the pandemonium fortress was created around it and has changed ownership between Heaven and Hell many times. Lilith and Inarius, tired of the war, gathered rebel angels and demons, stole the Worldstone, and created Sanctuary. The Worldstone wasn’t created. It was what was left behind from the battle between Anu and Tathamet.
My money is she's going to get killed this expansion, and we'll pick up another even more pathetic lifeform to escort us on our journey moving forward.
..."really sacred place..." is such a bad way to talk about Diablo's lore. Putting the word "really" in that sentence shows how bad these people are at what they do.
Nope - Just not interested. Be that the story, the new class, new zone or the crappy Co-op. This expansion gets no buy from me. And simply better games out there to play right now.
@@SeriousClownLOLD4 is scared cuz once POE 2 drops then we will see the real player numbers lol a hot garbage expansion pay wall for new powers and new class that is gonna get nerfed to the ground a week after release an with the same lame events “ another goblin event” ok cool we get it but all they been doing is dropping more hot garbage 🗑️ oh and the tempering man dont even get me started let us have our power
@@xDeathCrownx Yes poe2 was the best game nobody has ever played. Can't stop giving it praises I'm going to try it out but I don't think I'll get too serious with it. Seems to be a game for no lifers with little to no money
But what about pre-ordering??? You will miss out on instant access pre-order garbage! Besides...you only spent 90 dollars. Don't you want to pre-order the game a second time to get that same long lasting feeling of regret and remorse?
Getting woke vibes from this, the story started off incredibly good, at first, but then spiraled out of control at the end, and the ending was about as trash as trash could get. Calling Lorath an old drunk reminds me of that she hulk scene where she's explaining how hard her life has been due to being cat called... Lorath was there with Tyrael attempting to seal away the black soulstone, before maelthael appeared and cut down his men and was the one Tyrael told to go and find the neph at the beginning of ROS. Not to mention the last of the horadrim...Lorath, some old drunk white man.... like dayum.
My guess, cause most youngish people with creative writing degrees are probably woke millennials anyway and their consultants also told them that's the modern direction for modern audiences.
Vessel of the fellowship of the ring with the exact plot of D2 and D3. D2/D3 we followed someone through the entire game (Adrien/diablo and Leah) until they became the boss of said game. D3 at least mixed the concept up enough that it seemed different, this time it just looks like they merged the two together (so far, time will tell if I am wrong).
Lilith v inarius with meph in the backround was atleast interesting.... neyrelle's story has already happened in the last 2 games.... with apparently no one knowing of these events.
Including Neyrelle as the main character was a mistake. Why aren't we the main character? Isn't that the point? Players are basically just the MacGuffin to allow the next part of the story to happen.
It is actually insane that dialbo 4 shipped with a severely incomplete story just to sell the rest of it years after release. And who knows if this would even complete the story? I'm so sick of this nonsense. If I buy a game I want the whole game.
It's important to realize that apparently in the Diablo universe that the demons and fallen angels really don't ever "die". They just get sent back to Hell and have to regain their energy to be reborn again. That's what Mephisto was doing before he got retrapped inside the soulstone., that's what Diablo did, and that's why Baal was trapped inside a living body being chained to a rock before being let out in D2:LoD, because if he died, he'd just have been reborn in Hell. Which is one of the weirdest plot devices ever in the lore imo because it basically means the Angels and humans can't ever really win because when the angels die, they straight up die, and humans and the nephilem also just die, and the demons will constantly be coming back forever and ever.
Angels are also immortal as an army - individually they may die, but there's a fixed number of them, and whenever one dies, the Crystal Arch produces another angel to replace them - which is why Heaven and Hell were able to struggle against one another for an eternity.
It's actually a good plot device for a long standing franchise. Evil never truly dies. As a result you should be vigilant and prepared to fight it back whenever it rears its head. Even the good can be corrupted, and simply praying to 'God' is not enough to save you if you do not truly believe it. Having a story like that shifts the perspective from 'fuck, this again?' To ah shit! He's back! Grab your shield, it is time to dine in valhalla! As my father's father defended this land, so shall i.
I've played every Diablo campaign several times and if you asked me what the story was, I'd say "Um, some angels and demons are fighting and humans are caught in the middle." The story really doesn't matter in Diablo, in that there's no part of it you need to know to play the game better.
I have bought every diablo game since Diablo 2 at launch but will not be buying this. I have been burned too many times now, I have given blizzard the benefit of the doubt after Reaper of Souls. Diablo 4 is horrible, it's basically a reskin of Diablo 3 but worse.
Blizzard storytelling loves making the player character the stupidest person in there world. You knew this chick wasn't up to snuff doing the quests. She hurt her arm doing a basic quest. I don't understand why we even let her touch the soul stone in the first place.
Or decide who to trap, the girl that did nothing to us the entire game (her cultist fed us flowers so we chased her....why?) or the guy that helped us chase the girl the entire game that never did anything to us and she chose to trap the guy who helped us. The story telling was so garbage I have a hard time thinking of a game with a worse story. I played through twice at launch and still could not figure out what the MC's motivation for anything was. A cult fed us flowers, we killed them so our main quest was over. Now in the expansion we get to play D2 and D3's main story again of following around a character (Adrian/diablo in D2 and Leah D3) that will eventually become the boss of said game. I am betting they change it up and someone else becomes the big bad at the end as for some reason they want the worst character to ever exist in a Diablo game to be the new Cain (with us to the end....I miss Cain he was a good character).
So looking at these Devs, is Diablo gonna be like Anduin's plotline? All about Neyrelle's feelings? And crying like a sumamabich? This is a story about ISOLATION??? How about a story about MEPHISTO OR LILITH?????
This random young girl couldn’t handle a lord of hell’s soul stone? Nooooooo waaaaaay. You are telling me Aiden and talrasha couldn’t do it and this girl somehow also couldn’t?! Man what a twist.
Neyrelle isn't even a necessary character. At best she should've been more like a Marius i.e. poor soul that just got caught up in the events. Instead she basically takes the protagonist role away from the player, leaving you as nothing more than a glorified merc. And Lorath/Donan, who are supposed to be these experienced and knowledgeable veterans just end up following her around like lost puppies.
I can't wait to play VoH, I am also very very excited about raiding in the expansion! I expect a lot of coordination in the fights, what would be very cool content to do with friends!!!
Well, their bigger storytelling tool still is the pre-rendered cinematics... So Neirelle still have a "function" as Marius, Tyrael, Deckard... Maybe in some years engines will be allowed to get players characters on such quality sequences. 🤷
Him not finishing her off was the stupidest thing lol.
🤣 he did once, hence the nephalems
What do you mean? 🤣
@@TruthSeeker-rn1tm He's talking about Inarius not killing Lilith. Though he thought he did, granted how he thought a spear to the gut was a kill shot to a demon like Lilith is beyond me.
@@666Avsky I mean, that only requires Inarius to finish himself, not Lilith.
Inarius is so full of himself, he thought one shot was all he needed
Hope Neyrel is offed in the first 10 minutes and we get an actual story. Mephisto at least has some narrative reason to want to fuck with us and get back at us beyond just "im big bad, I wander these lands and sometimes look straight into the camera" for 20 hours like Lilith.
Neyrelle reminded me of the protagnoist from forspoken, we all know how that went.
2:45 "Over time, you realize neyrelle cannot do this alone". You mean literally one second after the campaign ends? Not a single player ever thought she was going to be ok lmao, that ending just doesn't make sense.
Further proof that our protagonist is as dumb as a rock.
You mean sending a young girl alone through a jungle with the fate of the world on her shoulders and the most evil character in that world trying to corrupt her seems like a bad idea to you? I don't see a single thing that could go wrong
- that our protagonist's *writer* is as dumb as a rock
Yup. And you waited only 5 seasons to finally realize that she needs you help . Meanwhile millions of monsters were killed, thousands of loots were destroyed, hundreds of levels were reached and billions of gold were made. Like there’s nothing more important to do.
Even the game showed as that she can't handle a zombie, but DEI needed a girl in a leading role, and we all know DEI comes before good story telling
@@mcmarkmarkson7115 So if it was a boy who couldn't beat a zombie then it would've been fine? Like dude, the "DEI" isn't the problem, the fact they made her weak AF is.
We already know she's going to get corrupted and used as Mephisto's vessel for the final boss fight. Just say it already.
It happened in d3 so of course it's going to happen again. They don't have a single creative bone among the entire dev team. They just copy other ARPGS.
@@appleonsauce2035 Agreed it will either happen to Neyrelle or they'll bait us into thinking it will happen to Neyrelle and then Lorath intervenes to sacrifice himself. I don't see them being much more creative than that.
Dlc is literally called Vessel of Hatred, ye
I mean, i don't think the continuation will be so simple. I think something interesting happens there that will involve some other prime evils as well
I would like to see what happened with d3 main character, which Tyrael was feared of at the end. He seems to be forgotten, while having basically god level power.
And other characters, like Zoltun Cull and his cube, would appreciate atleast to hear of. I like we got to see what happened with Act 2 main camp, ruined.
Story would have been so much better if the player carried the soulstone and went on this "journey" instead of Nayrel
But the player can make a male character and be all non strong woman.. that shit aint gonna fly here.
Yeah but girl-boss gotta girl-boss. Plus look at all the women talking throughout the video. I don't know how many did the programming or the art, but they sure talked a lot and probably decided the direction of the expansion
@Sulamanjansulttaani please don't assume the male presenting character's gender.
right? a nice call back of you carrying the soulstones like in D2, but this time you would see hallucinations throughout the expansion because of it
@@SulamanjansulttaaniEXACTLY
This might sound totally made up but in the 90s a company named Blizzard actually made good games.
I literally don't believe you
Holly hell, the first cinematics and alpha gameplay footage of the upcoming warcraft mmo in 2003-2004 had people FROTHING at the mouth. (No one has cared about Blizzard games now for a decade)
Back when they were less 'diverse'.. good times
@@F0XRunnerwatching the tbc and wraith trailers were unreal as well. The hype the attention draw was crazy and that feeling will probly never happen in gaming again.
so we just get a hunch that this jackass is going to fail so we are now forced to go looking for her again (again again) because she cant just ask the person who KILLED LILLITH to help deal with it??? What kind of stupid logic is this?
The people who wrote the story for this game are creatively bankrupt with no real actual skill in storytelling.
it's just blizzard...
Blizzard writing to make a woman the next Wanderer. It's fucking lame.
Didn't this happen before, with Aidan? He was a wanderer trying to contain Diablo's essence, but he did so after slaying Diablo.
Nyrelle here didn't slay any big bad demon, yet I'm expected to think she can do better? Are they gonna be like "but but see? she's asking for help, she's not gonna succumb to corruption because she receives your help".. I dunno man, Aidan couldn't do it, Tal'Rasha couldn't do it, heck even Leah in Diablo 3 couldn't do it.
Aidan was a badass, Tal'Rasha had the Horadrim for help, including Zoltun Kulle, and Leah had the Nephalem and Tyrael and Zoltun and Deckard for a little while, not Adria though, that one was ebil already. And they didn't make it.
@@Section71seems like they are inserting Nyrelle as a mary sue, she can do it.
I remember watching your videos as soon as Diablo 4 hit the market, i pre ordered it so saw you play a lot. Your channel has grown a tonn, kudos to you, you are a great entretainer. Regards from Argentina!
Very kind thank you
@@dmdiablo4Another greeting from Argentina here! You are awesome! Keep the good content and smile!
I hate how blizzard just has random dudes talking about shit that is supposed to be told in the story.
Show it don’t say it.
For real..
Huh? I'm not sure I follow. Are you saying promotional material shouldn't mention anything about the plot? Cause that's not a Blizzard thing, that's an everything thing. I mean, have you ever seen people promoting a movie? They talk about the plot quite a lot, like it's a totally normal thing that people have been doing for decades. Have I misinterpreted your comment? Because this seems like a weird thing to take issue with.
@@AlanSmithee-r3t I'm saying that the way Blizzard doesn't promotions for upcoming content expansions in their games sucks.
@@AlanSmithee-r3tthis isnt a movie, thats the issue with the way these new people in the gaming sphere are, they try to make it like movies, but they arent movies, they are games.
@@AlanSmithee-r3t The emphasis should be on what you can "do" in it; not what "happens" in it. People who play games are interested in their agency in the game; what systems do they get to play with, what do they get to do in it. If you can convince them that the gameplay loop is fun to play with -- they will be hooked, the game will sell.
"Neyrelle cannot do this alone" No shit Sherlock
"Over time you realize" lmao, literally one second after the campaign ended... who thought that ending made any sense in the first place.
She just needs an extra hand.
@@stapleman007 or four
god, its painful to listen to some of these "devs" .....
I agree, They always sound like they don't know their game.They don't play their game either. No passion.
@@shev9127 and so mephisto is really evil! And we added this new cool stuff !
Its so cool you guys. And then this character is feeling these feeling because of these reasons. And then want to do that because they had that previous feeling. And you gonna be there watching it all unveil just like we are telling it to you!
And its gonna be amazing you guys !!
And we took inspiration of d2 and we heard you guys!!
***Preorders plzzzz****
Cause its probably created by AI. And theyre just trying their best to describe whats happening in an AI created video.
Im pretty sure non of these "devs" actualy play the game...
But I already took the soul stone to the east and smashed it on the hellforge
And got nothing but an Gul
smash it harder this time
And after smashing it I got an El rune! Totally worth it!!!
@@kjnkn but gul is good
@@kjnkntop rune roll!
"Nayrelle seeks a way to banish maphisto back to hell" - then why the F did she leave with the soul stone and say nothing to us the ones who beat Lilith? who the hell is writing this hot garbage?
"In the events of Diablo 2, he was destroyed" - Yes, his soul stone was destroyed too, what the hell do you mean he was slowly resurrecting himself? I don't mind if they said something like Baal made makeshift soulstones for his brothers or w.e before we destroyed the world stone, but wtf was he resurrecting himself with a destroyed soul stone? at least D3 made some sense with Adria giving birth to a vessel for Diablo, Maphisto is just "nah fk it I'll just res myself without a McGuffin"
Somehow mephisto returned
@@broazrael1234 I am sure they will explain it in detail with this or next expansion... 🙄
Mephisto and the rest of the Great Evils are immortal. The Soulstones exist to imprison their souls because their souls could just possess a human or go back to Hell and recreate their original body when defeated.
it seems you don't pay attention to the lore.
@@Nekogami04 upon further reading of the subject, I guess it does seem to be the case that they are immortal and the soul stones were not originally something they had it was something they created in order to manifest into sanctuary.
That being the case, is this true for all demons, or all prime evils, or only the 3 brothers?
That being said, Nayrell sneaking away with Maphisto's stone makes no sense.
Mephisto already corrupted the zakarum faith in diablo 2. Remember when he sharded his soulstone and corrupted the council members of the zakarum?
The people who work for this games story like to act like they're pioneering the game when they're doing absolutely nothing new.
Yes but I mean they are trying to add and change the story to keep the series going. Wonder what it’ll be like in Diablo 10. We’ll prob have Jesus returned taking over earths minerals as a demon..
@@itsbno3597Must construct more pylons for hybrid demon jesus
We literally go to his corrupted bodies tomb in this seasons story...
What is this fascination with camera shots from the side of people while they're talking? It's horrid.
I like to pretend their ear is moving and they're talking from that. It's less nauseating than watching badly performed corpo trailer speak. They could all be AI generated for as human as they sound.
God, the story in this game is so terrible. Only could be written by modern Blizz.
I can’t wait to find out that Lilith was just the misunderstood strong female who was trying to help us all along.
Yall hate women so much it’s insane lol.
Just needs Neyrel to casually mention that she's gay
@@markj.a351 Don't forget she was willingly supplying her breast milk to provide nutrients for her slaves
My man you couldn't even hold a pencil. Stop nagging like all these whiny little toddlers
Angel stabs a demon with angelic weapon....nada.
Demon stabs an angel with an angelic weapon....death. Makes perfect blizzard sense. Always hated that part.
Same, however Lilith is female so she's gotta win. Inarius couldn't have just been injured n fled to repent on his actions. Just kill him off after so many years of ppl wanting him ingame.
@@michaelhuie5878 Devs are going full blown retard and seem to be fully committed to it.
This is a staple of a lot of fantasy writing and, to a lesser extent, sci-fi writing. Things often happen because the story needs them to happen, not because they make sense in that created world. Why doesn't Gandalf use his amazing powers all the time? Why don't the Jedi do the same thing? Why do super heroes only seem to have access to specific powers under specific conditions and not just wreck the enemies with their most powerful ability 24/7? The answer is: because it would create terrible stories.
This is also why I'm not a fan of fantasy stories in general. You can only tolerate them if you shut your brain off.
Gandalf never really showed REALLY POWERFUL MAGIC. There wasn't really much omg super powerful magic. Then in top of that, him using extremely powerful magic if he had it would have drawn the attention of Sauron.
Diablo 4 writing is just bad though. Whether it's fantasy or not it's bad.
@@Annifloyd
@@Annifloyd In regards to Gandalf its explained that the Valar(Gods) forbid the Maiar(Angels) from using their magic/powers fully. The Wizards(Maiar) were sent more as guides and advisors. To set certain things in motion but ultimately it was up to mortals. This is just a quick summary.
We follow a wanderer being corrupted by a soul stone... Isn't that the plit of d2?
Going to need to gather a heart, brain, and eyeball to host Mephy so we can kill him with a special flail.
pretty similar to lord of the rings as well xD
@@stapleman007 Now you're ripping off the Wizard of Oz. smh
I don't know, after 30 years the universe is so dead, the poeple interviewed all sound like people cosplaying a manga that was drawn before they were born, it's so cringe by now
I love how they still didnt show anything.
Just talking some nonsense.
Like this whole expansion seems whole lot of nothing.
I love the story of poe when you zoom zoom in endgame but you get stuck to the wall and you got dc great story
@@thunderdoom12hope in poe2 they take blizzard example and allow us to skip the lore
So you want to know the whole story before you play it? Lol pathetic
@@grislyv2564 i dont care about the story.
So the game should be called “Mephisto 4”
There's no mephy 1, 2, or 3 thou. Just calling it Mephisto would suffice
Diablo 2 didn't have diablo until its end dlc. Same will likely happen here.
@@Flourikum I'll be surprised of we see another dlc for d4 tbh
@@Flourikumwhat? 😂😂
Ofc diablo 2 had diablo in it.
Dlc didn't even exist when it came out. The expansion added Baal.
Literally clueless
@@Flourikum lies
Diablo4 Maingame: 90% of campaign was the HUNT for Lillith.
I predict: 90% of the AddOn-campaign we will HUNT for this girl who carries the soulstone, only at the end she will ram the soulstone into her head (because SOOO iconic lelelelelel) and then we will defeat her/Meppl aaaaaaaaaaand thats it for today folks!
I would not be sure about that. I expect much more interesting things to happen
I love when writers are explaining their story and they say: “This girl is young and untrained but SOMEHOW she can carry this burden”. Like ah yes she can do this incredible thing just because with no explanation.
REY! Cough cough
The explanation is that she's a woman
Keep in mind tal’rasha and the warrior from Diablo 1 couldn’t
Can blizzard just shut the f up and play the trailer. I don't want to hear from the developers. Just be invisible and give us cool cinematics, I don't care about hearing your vision for the game, let me experience it.
Yes so... I am happy that everything I see confirms that I am not missing out on anything by not purchasing this expansion...
POE2 is anyways just around the corner
Tbh I will be playing both, not exactly difficult to do. Not like I am going to spend 24/7 on either lol.
And it wont cost you $70
"just around the corner"
Inb4 delay until 2050 💀
@@00110000 Continuous early access begins November 15th....
@@1_underthesun I'll believe it when I see it
Nayrel got too much attention randomly at the end of Diablo 4, and now they are doubling down on it. It was already annoying to begin with that she randomly got so important- to the extent that it was disrupting story flow
Girl boss.
We all are cooked if we keep giving money to Blizzard. I'd rather spend it on the Last Epoch of PoE. Now I am enjoying Black Myth so much.
i've been enjoying guild wars 2 the past month.
@@jetah50 anything is better than giving more money to that good for nothing money trap corporation.
honestly, story sounds like crp.
Big agree, but I mean are we really playing D4 for the story ? I kind of just enjoy blowing stuff up and watching my necromancer army dealing to demons.
@@Playfu1W1nd yes, because we are not playing it for the game play. If you play it for the feels, the story and visuals is what matters. If it was not for the story, you would not play Diablo at all.
Nayrel is just Leah of D3, probably going to turn into Diablo. The Devs telling those spoilers really kills the emersion and mystery of the story. Though with this rings of power level of story telling and writing there's really not much there.
I honestly hate this format. I wish they'd have like a voice actor doing a voice over of a trailer explaining all this. Use the game to sell itself
They always have this weird tone for these showcases that I've never liked.
It's cheaper this way. Maximum profits, minimum effort
Really not into the token martyr child giving a literal Lord of Hell a run for his money corrupting her after already being the party's Moses in part 1.
When the backdrop is the more interesting part
"Throw it into the fire Neyrelle" "No the stone is mine" "Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo"
nah, i'll just put 40 on poe instead
This was written by kindergarten teachers
"She's Frodo. We are Samwise." That'll be $40 please!
I hate these self insert chars that steal all the glory from who is actually supposed to be the real MC (us). Leah 2.0
DM, thanks for your commentary. Can’t wait to play Fellowship of the Soul Stone and find those 30 additional Statues of Sauron
I wish there was a way to rewatch the cut scenes when ever you want
There is. Just TH-cam d4 all cutscenes and some gigschads have put it together.
This is literally how I experience wow after I quit in TBC
The more I see this story the stupider I see the writing was.
With what blizzard/wow writing taught me, the ending of the expansion with either be Nayrell going on a psycho trip and fusing with the soul stone, or she’ll become a girl boss and shatter the stone herself.
Regardless, I just hope we get a playable hellzone similar to D3 act 4 heaven, and an endgame akin to or better than what D4 currently has
The power of modern audience storytelling gives all the prime evils a run for their money.
Why did she run off all "heroic" at the end? She's a strong independent hero who don't need no player.
Setting up for some of the characters we’ll encounter in the next expansions in D4:
B aal
A karat
D iablo
Unless they add a diablo soon it's not much of a diablo game
is it me or do those cut scenes look lower quality than usual..
Yeah like ingame cinematic rather than CG Cinematic.
Actual gameplay is standing in a town rerolling gear.
SPOILER WARNING: d4 bad
So I’m guessing we’ll finally get Diablo in this Diablo game when we get 4 expansions and 500 bucks deep.
Concord their azz first!
Yeah but we still won't have a Paladin. Keep saving brother
I mean... only if you actually spend money on it lol
The should have just named it Lilith reborn instead of diablo
Nah we will get diablo in the spin-off game instead. We'll be farming, literally. Growing crops and stuff. And diablo will be a shop owner, selling seeds and tools. He's gonna be so cute and harmless because devs (with pronouns shown on screen) said we want this game to feel like a warm hug.
When they said campaign spoilers, i thought they meant the base game campaign, not the expansion geez... :/
Nothing of value was spoiled
Goes to show how boring the presentation of the campaign in D4 was because i dont remember half of that stuff happening lol.
all I remember is that I wanted to off neyrelle because she is just trouble
Thank GOD I DID NOT GET A "Diablo" tattoo when I was a teen playing D2.
Wow,
All 10 players must be excited
5:52 Wait what….? When the world stone was forged? Is this a recon? The Worldstone is the Eye of Anu, origin creator of the entire Diablo universe. It was left behind on his death.
When Anu and Tathamet fought, the worldstone and pandemonium were the results
It's only known as the Eye of Anu, or also as the World Forge, but it's not directly part of him
It became the foundation of Sanctuary and it rose from it as an expression of Anu's creative spirit
I think since D3 and other books the idea of the spirit realm, separated from the conflict has developed, since humans are of Sanctuary and don't directly belong to either the 7 hells or the high heavens
@@PrimalDirective yeah that’s a retcon then. Anu was the first being. Then Anu separated all his negative attributes from himself which created Tathamet. They fought until they both died. The corpse of Anu created the High Heavens. The corpse of Tathamet created the Burning Hells.
From their corpses, Angels and Demons arose. They then fought over control of the Eye of Anu (also known as the World Stone) on the Fields of Eternity. Eventually the pandemonium fortress was created around it and has changed ownership between Heaven and Hell many times.
Lilith and Inarius, tired of the war, gathered rebel angels and demons, stole the Worldstone, and created Sanctuary.
The Worldstone wasn’t created. It was what was left behind from the battle between Anu and Tathamet.
Nayrel is the worst part of the diablo 4 story
Not as bad as Cain being killed by a purple butterfly… yet
Woke story
Complete garbage character
My money is she's going to get killed this expansion, and we'll pick up another even more pathetic lifeform to escort us on our journey moving forward.
Agreed, she just feels forced. I want to like her just can’t.
This is the most bullshit writing I've ever seen.
Netflix level slop of a story
The absurdity that was the whole Neyrelle trapping Mephisto in that stone.
She was ridiculously naive.
Yea....except this Frodo is going to die and our Sam Wise is going to battle Mephisto.
At least Sam Wise is better with a sword than Frodo. Just ask Rosie.
@@gilian2587 Just ask Frodo
Nobody loves Nayrel
I was lost on who the hell that was. I thought she was a random dude character. Hell the woman in the basement quest was more memorable
..."really sacred place..." is such a bad way to talk about Diablo's lore.
Putting the word "really" in that sentence shows how bad these people are at what they do.
"Gay, so Diablo just posted this..." nice intro Darth!
Nope - Just not interested. Be that the story, the new class, new zone or the crappy Co-op. This expansion gets no buy from me. And simply better games out there to play right now.
"the story so far" well.. took that directly from Supernatural.
Its like they dont play games and they dont know what the players want. They aware POE is free?
Poe is free to play. It's not free to stay Plus only The financially challenged care about that
@@SeriousClownLOLD4 is scared cuz once POE 2 drops then we will see the real player numbers lol a hot garbage expansion pay wall for new powers and new class that is gonna get nerfed to the ground a week after release an with the same lame events “ another goblin event” ok cool we get it but all they been doing is dropping more hot garbage 🗑️ oh and the tempering man dont even get me started let us have our power
@@xDeathCrownx Yes poe2 was the best game nobody has ever played. Can't stop giving it praises I'm going to try it out but I don't think I'll get too serious with it. Seems to be a game for no lifers with little to no money
@@SeriousClownLOL D4 is becoming a no lifer game lol so yea…. Lol
@@xDeathCrownxpoe 2 is so slow its Just an copy of poe 1 nothing new 7 acts you need to do over and over every new league and allot of dc 😅
After being burned with the launch game I cannot imagine buying this at full price
absolutely not... best thing is to buy at deep discount after 5 more seasons of them fixing it so that it s playable
@@cakimiric5034 then you miss out on seasonal content
@@Mike-pd6np And the downsides are?..
@@Mike-pd6np oh no...
But what about pre-ordering??? You will miss out on instant access pre-order garbage! Besides...you only spent 90 dollars. Don't you want to pre-order the game a second time to get that same long lasting feeling of regret and remorse?
Getting woke vibes from this, the story started off incredibly good, at first, but then spiraled out of control at the end, and the ending was about as trash as trash could get. Calling Lorath an old drunk reminds me of that she hulk scene where she's explaining how hard her life has been due to being cat called... Lorath was there with Tyrael attempting to seal away the black soulstone, before maelthael appeared and cut down his men and was the one Tyrael told to go and find the neph at the beginning of ROS. Not to mention the last of the horadrim...Lorath, some old drunk white man.... like dayum.
C'mon, old white men cannot be hero's. It's like Brawndo, what modern audiences crave.
"She is Frodo and we are Sam" I got the same impression
DEI Neyrelle lmao. D4 still has a dumb shit ending which i can't fathom.
Why do game developers insist on hiring woke millennials to destroy our favorite game franchises?
My guess, cause most youngish people with creative writing degrees are probably woke millennials anyway and their consultants also told them that's the modern direction for modern audiences.
Because of investor's money, like BlackRock, they getting by making dei points from taking woke
ESG money says "modern audiences" are a guaranteed best seller.
I genuinely hate the new story. Sounds like some millennial marvel shit again.
Vessel of the fellowship of the ring :D
Vessel of the fellowship of the ring with the exact plot of D2 and D3.
D2/D3 we followed someone through the entire game (Adrien/diablo and Leah) until they became the boss of said game. D3 at least mixed the concept up enough that it seemed different, this time it just looks like they merged the two together (so far, time will tell if I am wrong).
So, it's Diablo 2? We're chasing the Wanderer again? Ok. I don't really play this for the story anyhow.
'I don't really play this' ws all that was needed, no need to explain further
Calling it: the girl will become Mephisto down the road and the player will have to fight her.
kinda crazy they are willing to spoil major aspects of the plot in this kind of video...
Lilith v inarius with meph in the backround was atleast interesting.... neyrelle's story has already happened in the last 2 games.... with apparently no one knowing of these events.
Including Neyrelle as the main character was a mistake. Why aren't we the main character? Isn't that the point? Players are basically just the MacGuffin to allow the next part of the story to happen.
It is actually insane that dialbo 4 shipped with a severely incomplete story just to sell the rest of it years after release. And who knows if this would even complete the story? I'm so sick of this nonsense. If I buy a game I want the whole game.
I got good news for you. Poe is free and you get the whole game for free, a game btw that has actual content
@@drcheesecak3 Sadly i hate how the gameplay feels in PoE. Hope PoE 2 is more for me.
@@jinkxy2370 i can respect that, it's not everyones cup of tea. Poe2 is just around the corner luckily
It's important to realize that apparently in the Diablo universe that the demons and fallen angels really don't ever "die". They just get sent back to Hell and have to regain their energy to be reborn again. That's what Mephisto was doing before he got retrapped inside the soulstone., that's what Diablo did, and that's why Baal was trapped inside a living body being chained to a rock before being let out in D2:LoD, because if he died, he'd just have been reborn in Hell.
Which is one of the weirdest plot devices ever in the lore imo because it basically means the Angels and humans can't ever really win because when the angels die, they straight up die, and humans and the nephilem also just die, and the demons will constantly be coming back forever and ever.
Angels are also immortal as an army - individually they may die, but there's a fixed number of them, and whenever one dies, the Crystal Arch produces another angel to replace them - which is why Heaven and Hell were able to struggle against one another for an eternity.
It's actually a good plot device for a long standing franchise.
Evil never truly dies. As a result you should be vigilant and prepared to fight it back whenever it rears its head. Even the good can be corrupted, and simply praying to 'God' is not enough to save you if you do not truly believe it.
Having a story like that shifts the perspective from 'fuck, this again?' To ah shit! He's back! Grab your shield, it is time to dine in valhalla! As my father's father defended this land, so shall i.
@@Benebazsi Makes you wonder the rate of bad apples like Malthael (though still a lot more bearable than Imperius)
I've played every Diablo campaign several times and if you asked me what the story was, I'd say "Um, some angels and demons are fighting and humans are caught in the middle." The story really doesn't matter in Diablo, in that there's no part of it you need to know to play the game better.
It's like a burning night could have been a origin of a cool new class.. missed opportunity.
The spoiler warning reminded me about how little I care about the lore of this game 😴😴
“She was phase 1” is so real and funny lol
I have bought every diablo game since Diablo 2 at launch but will not be buying this. I have been burned too many times now, I have given blizzard the benefit of the doubt after Reaper of Souls. Diablo 4 is horrible, it's basically a reskin of Diablo 3 but worse.
Oops. I couldn't defeat Lillith.... couldn't get those 3 uber uber uber elite drops.
Somehow she found the will to fight the prime evil. Somehow Palpatine survived.
Diablo 4: Vessel of the Fellowship of the next Dark Wanderer
Another video game story where the player character is the least interesting character in the story. Basically a cameraman.
Blizzard storytelling loves making the player character the stupidest person in there world. You knew this chick wasn't up to snuff doing the quests. She hurt her arm doing a basic quest. I don't understand why we even let her touch the soul stone in the first place.
Or decide who to trap, the girl that did nothing to us the entire game (her cultist fed us flowers so we chased her....why?) or the guy that helped us chase the girl the entire game that never did anything to us and she chose to trap the guy who helped us. The story telling was so garbage I have a hard time thinking of a game with a worse story. I played through twice at launch and still could not figure out what the MC's motivation for anything was. A cult fed us flowers, we killed them so our main quest was over.
Now in the expansion we get to play D2 and D3's main story again of following around a character (Adrian/diablo in D2 and Leah D3) that will eventually become the boss of said game. I am betting they change it up and someone else becomes the big bad at the end as for some reason they want the worst character to ever exist in a Diablo game to be the new Cain (with us to the end....I miss Cain he was a good character).
...but I destroyed Mephistos soulstone in d2. I dont get it.
So looking at these Devs, is Diablo gonna be like Anduin's plotline? All about Neyrelle's feelings? And crying like a sumamabich? This is a story about ISOLATION??? How about a story about MEPHISTO OR LILITH?????
Solitudus lord of Isolation draws near
Can they at least update the emote wheel so when we have to do a billion escort missions of bad pathing we can go “Fuuuuuu!” Every once in awhile ?
This random young girl couldn’t handle a lord of hell’s soul stone? Nooooooo waaaaaay. You are telling me Aiden and talrasha couldn’t do it and this girl somehow also couldn’t?! Man what a twist.
Neyrelle isn't even a necessary character. At best she should've been more like a Marius i.e. poor soul that just got caught up in the events. Instead she basically takes the protagonist role away from the player, leaving you as nothing more than a glorified merc. And Lorath/Donan, who are supposed to be these experienced and knowledgeable veterans just end up following her around like lost puppies.
looks cool but charging another big price for just a big update is a crime
bruh why are we not playing as neyrell. were jsut her bodyguard
Girl boss.
I can't wait to play VoH, I am also very very excited about raiding in the expansion! I expect a lot of coordination in the fights, what would be very cool content to do with friends!!!
Well, their bigger storytelling tool still is the pre-rendered cinematics... So Neirelle still have a "function" as Marius, Tyrael, Deckard...
Maybe in some years engines will be allowed to get players characters on such quality sequences. 🤷
People who write this crap have no idea about diablo lore what so ever. Just another woke attempt at shoving in female characters ....
Exactly.
So same exact story, but Nayrel being a male instead of a female would make it better?
@@Mesozyes
@@drcheesecak3 how?
@@JaysizzoLOGE very carefully
neyrelle stealing the soul stone has got to be one of the dumbest things to happen in diablo. about on par with rita repulsa killing cain in diablo 3.
If only their game was as cool as their story and cinematics.
... you just made me realize that LOTR was just a year long escort quest for sam.
another part of Beta test GUYYYYYS...we just payed only 1 bilion USD for it...weeeeej