@@ChiTownsFinest1 She shoots 38% from the field and 72% from the free throw line. Clark is shooting 42.5% from the field and 90% from the free throw line. Clarks team is greatly improved over last year. Reese's team is way worse than last year. There is no comparison between those two
For me, it has to be Clark. I love Angel Reese and she is an absolute Hooper, but to me it’s no contest. Clark is the number one on every teams scouting reports and she’s picked up full court face guarded every single game. When you factor that in to the fact that she’s still breaking records like first rookie triple double,assists records, points, and assists, triple doubles, I feel like it just has to be her. I think most other years it would probably be angel, but it just so happens that Angel is a rookie the same year as Clark.
@@thermologo3451 I disagree that the scouting report doesn’t matter, but even so, being faceguarded full court as a point guard does matter. Even with that aside, still Clark in my opinion. She’s putting up numbers that no other point guard is putting up and she’s doing it while building from one of the worst teams in the league. She has her fair share of double doubles which are pts/assist DD’s, she’s setting rookie and league assist records, and more. Again, Angel is playing crazy good, but I still think Clark is hands down ROTY. I do believe that scouting reports and defensive focus matters greatly when you’re talking about a player’s stats and achievements.
Idk because I don’t like seeing a whole bunch of turnovers and low shooting percentages and bad shots…cc made a triple double look bad…Reese has passed all her expectations halfway thru season…idk if I could say same for cc…I give cc slight edge for right now in race but honestly if cc is so elite then why is a 7th pick even in same convo as her? It kinda makes cc look bad 😂❤
@@jricks9292 I mean CC's 3 point shot hasn't necessarily been great but it's still 32%. Reese FG% =40.2 | Clark FG% 40.5 .. so they're basically the same in overal FG%. I think TO's is a bit of a lazy argument because Clark is a true point guard running the floor most of the time and her teammates inflate her TO stats because of how they always count against her. Look at the best NBA passers, they all have the highest TO rates as well and Clark's TO's keep going down. If you look up rookie stats, Clark leads all rookies in many categories and is higher than Reese in total block and blocks per game which is a stat that Reese should be higher with the position she plays. To reiterate, not in the slightest hating on Angel Reese because she's hoopin. Those are just some of my thoughts on why I think Clark at this point in the season is top contender.
Rookie of the Year is Clark. There is no contest. Caitlin Clark should be in the MVP conversation even. Rookie of the Year is a lock. Caitlin Leaderboards (as of 08/28): #1 Assists #1 Assists per game #1 Points from Assists and Scoring #2 3-Point Field Goals made #3 Free Throw % #7 2-Point Field Goal % #8 Points #10 Points per game Angel can't compete with this list. Look at the numbers below. First is Clark. Second is Reese. Per game: Points 18.0 / 13.5 Assists 8.2 / 1.8 Steals 1.4 / 1.3 Blocks 0.8 / 0.6 Rebounds 5.8 / 12.9 Caitlin has better numbers than Reese. Let's talk about the double-doubles. Obviously, Clark is better on points. So look at Assists vs Rebounds. Assists for Clark vs Rebounds for Reese: Assists are harder to get than rebounds. You can only get Assists on Offense, but you can get Rebounds on both Offense and Defense. You need two people for an Assist. There has to be a pass, and then that person needs to make a basket. Less than 50% are typically made, so chances are not great. Sometimes, that person who gets the pass from Clark doesn't even take a shot, even if they are open. Also, you can only get one Assist per possession. Rebounds are a stat padding thing. You can get Rebounds after missing a shot. So you get rewarded for missing. Sometimes, you can get multiple Rebounds on the same possession. You can get Rebounds on Offense and Defense. It's a lame stat to compare to an Assist. When people say, "Look at Angel's double-doubles," I just laugh. Angel has 152 Offensive Rebounds to Clark's 12. That's not a good thing. That means you're missing a lot of shots and getting put-backs. Look at the percentage of Offensive to Total rebounds for the following players: Reese 40% Wilson 19% (former MVP) Stewart 19% (current MVP) Clark 7% (future MVP) Reese has a lot of Offensive rebounds. Now look at the 2-point shooting percentage, and you can see why. Reese 39% Wilson 53% Stewart 52% Clark 55% Angel's 2-point shooting percentage is really low for an interior player and compare that to MVP quality players. She gets more Offensive Rebounds opportunities as a result. Even the Sky team 2-pt percentage (45%) is lowest in the league (tie with the Dream.) NY Liberty is the best at 52%. Then look at shooting percentage. Clark vs Reese. 2 pt 55% / 40% 3 pt 33% / 18% FT 90% / 74% Not even close. Clark is a much better shooter. Clark has a more complete skill set: -Ball Handler -Passer -Quick release (harder to block) -Mid-Range Shooter -Distance shooter -Runs the break / Outlet passes -Primary ball handler Clark is a better all-around player. She is always dangerous when she has the ball. She will catch you sleeping. She can beat you on the fast break. She can attack the basket by driving hard and finishing. She can pass the ball to a teammate for an open look. She can shoot it from anywhere on the court. Foul her, and she is money from the charity stripe. She plays baseline to baseline. Intangibles. Clark's exciting play draws fans into the arena. The Fever leads league attendance. Their away games also sell out. League attendance is up 156%. League TV viewership is up 300%. Clark's has the #1 selling jersey, and we all know the 2nd place jersey (Reese) isn't even close. The WNBA fly chartered flights for all regular season games this year for the first time. They signed new partner and TV deals. ESPN will be paying almost 7 times the money per year. This is the Clark effect. They're trying hard to make it seem like Reese is the reason for the increase in WNBA interest along with Clark, but it's not. People go to see Clark's Offense. The passing and shooting. I already explained how below average Reese is in shooting. She doesn't shoot 3's. Not exciting. Clark is a unicorn. She is one of one. Who in the league passes and shoots like Clark? Who can shoot logo 3's? Fall asleep, and Clark will make you pay. On top of that, she has a good demeanor on the court. Kids relate to Clark. They want to be her. I never heard of a kid wanting to be a rebounder. They all want to be scorers. They want to be ball facilitators. They want to be playmakers. These false narratives about ROTY being a contested race are bogus. Clark has already won the award. and it's not even close. It's Clark and only Clark, if you're objective.
Clark is getting mvp chatter. If Aja's team continues to plummet the noise will get louder. The ROY was never is question. Clark leads every stat except rebounds.
Over the last 15 games she’s averaging 19 pts, 10 assists, 7 rebounds, 1 steal and 1 block, 9 double doubles and 1 triple double on a 10-5 record. She’s beasting rn.
Not at all, her fans probably did the multiple votes with different emails, it’s like a cult while I just voted twice for Reese it wasn’t that serious.
@@jeangrey5952 then why the other players didn’t do the same? Kind of dumb take. All you have to do is look at ratings and that proves votes were accordingly to ratings. No other team sell out or are view as the fevers.
@@marioslrzn Most people don’t care that much, I didn’t care to keep voting. But Clark fans are cult like and I noticed them everyday on twitter talking about voting for Clark, just like how all u hear them talking about is rookie of the year like that means something, while others are focused on championships.
@@jeangrey5952 so you’re saying only Clark fans are like that? I tell you what Angel fans act like Angel and Clark fans act like Clark, so I wonder which fans act like victim and say it’s racist for black women to be held accountable for the stupidity they do. I’m pretty sure Clark has more black male fans than Angel has fans, facts
@@jeangrey5952Bro CC fans boosted numbers for all players, it’s obvious look at 2023 vs 2024 voting numbers! Most CC fans even voted for Angel so we could see them play together & squash this stupid beef. Only the wilfully ignorant will deny this!
Angel is the best rebounder in the league. She's also the least skilled inside player in the league. Clark, on the other hand, is probably the best playmaker in the league and the most overall skilled guard in the league. The ROY contest is not contest at all.
This whoever makes the playoffs is is ROTY is so dumb, both teams as it stands are on the playoffs, people with this argument also prob had Wemby over Chet for ROY, and Chet made the playoffs 😂
And knowing she got a better team 😂😂😂 that nike bag different got everybody just lying for no reason it’s no way somebody who broke the all time turnover record in 25 games is in close to a person who is on pace to get the most offensive rebound record most rebound record and most double double in a season record and already got the most double double in a consecutive season
it is an arguement, When Kidd move to NJ and Nash move to Phoenix and completely changed the dynamics of the team and led them in those playoffs makes you an MVP or specially a ROTY No.1 contender...you dont have to crash a criteria and numbers, when its on plain sight that one man or woman made that team a championship contender
CC is more than shooting from the logo … where as Angel is about the double, but otherwise doesn’t contribute anything game wise to her team, unlike CC is all about creating scoring opportunities for her team !
@@Manbrown1 Rebounds definitely are an underated aspect and helps massively but not the way Angel does it. Freakin' 40% FG from just 5ft distance. Means she rebounds multiple times on her own layups. That's extra unnecessary stat padding.
It is to the point now where Angel is stealing rebounds from Cardoso and other bigs on the team. That is the ultimate in stat padding because those rebounds do not add additional value to your team. She also gets quite a few gift rebounds because her team misses an extraordinary amount of shots and Angel misses most of her shots. In addition, she is spending too much energy grabbing rebounds under the buckets when her team needs her to spend more energy making buckets. Just silly.
@@PirateD.KingLuffy Aja is in the 1 of the top best team. She don't do anything for the team. CC is in the worst team 2022-2023 and never been to playoff for a decade. CC is contributing a lot for the team, she makes her teammate a good player and breaking and making a historic record. Lifting the worst team to playoff that is what I call Most valuable. For me it's CC.
Right now I’m picking Caitlin to be the ROTY but Angel has played amazingly too. I don’t think it’s fair to say whoever makes the playoffs as that’s a team effort and ROTY is an individual award.
You know I've seen many of the games that angel Reese was in and if you call amazing missing several layoffs getting extra rebounds from her own misses amazing but then I guess she is amazing... it's amazing that herself and others consider her to be a great basketball player when she's not even a good one she's a maybe an average WNBA player and besides hurricane there are other very talented rookies and honestly I would put Cardozo well above angel wings in a heartbeat
They always saying CC should be on the team bc of marketing lol. Cc is unlike anything we’ve ever seen and has electrified the world with her play style. All these soft ass answers gotta go. Everybody has eyes and can see CC is the one. 💯💯
I got eyes and cc is not the one to me…and I get my eyes checked regularly…I don’t like watching a whole bunch of turnovers and low shooting percentages
@jricks9292 her shooting percentages are higher than Reeses while taking more difficult shots. Plus being a point guard, youre going to have turnovers, its a part of the game. Besides, she has actually brought those down as of late
I wish ppl would stop just throwing ARs name in these conversations. AR is not a top forward in the league. Brink is better than Reese. Brink just got hurt.
@@edwardt7364 you out your mind if you think that. Stop being emotional. Look at the games. CC impacts her teams in a positive way that leads to wins. During Angels DD streak, the team went 5-10. Angel doesn't have an offensive game.
I would have NEVER known how good Ja Wilson is if it weren't for Caitlin Clark. I like Reese but I watch her stay in games when the team is down by over 20 just so she can get her double double. Against Indiana she played all the way to the end down by 28. They fed her the ball the last 6 times down the court for her to get 4 free throws and a basket. Ending up with 12 points and 13 rebounds. She was a non factor all game but got her double double. What I like about Clark is she pushes the ball up court every play and puts pressure on the other team.
In the 7 games since CC has been back from the Olympic break she’s averaging 24.5ppg and 9.0apg. In that time her team is 6-1. On the season she’s averaging 18.7ppg and 8.4apg and is on track to easily get the all time single season assists record. Since the Olympic break AR is averaging 12.75ppg and 16.5rpg. The Sky are 1-7 over that time including getting blown out by the Fever 100-81. On the season she’s averaging 13.3ppg and 13.1rpg. She’s already beaten the all time WNBA rebounding record and with 8 games left will definitely shatter it. AR’s rebounding has been incredibly impressive but CC as a rookie is proving to be the most dynamic offensive player in the league. Both her and her team are getting better every single day. The Fever are one of the hottest teams in the league right now and they’re a dark horse candidate for making a deep playoff run. I’d say AR is putting up a ROTY caliber campaign and in many other years with her numbers she’d probably have won it. But this year CC is running away with that award and it’s not even close. ESPN putting AR above CC is a complete farce.
REESE and St Francis. Catlin went to a Catholic HS. Arianism and Pagan. This is for Pat Summitt, University of Tennessee. The ones who remember know it's her.
Angel is one of the best rebounders of all time, but has the worst shooting percentage in history when 5 feet or less from the basket. Needs to improve her finishing. I’d want her on my team, but she’s not ROTY.
So caitlin grew the franchise exponentially broke records and has been bullied by every player and the whole media while hooping I dont see a comparison
Angel needs to sort out her inside scoring to be truly top tier. Right now she's Dennis Rodman without the lockdown D. IMO she should work hard on her D and embrace that inside stopper role.
Caitlin's team has a plus 12 game improvement over last year (to this point) compared to Angel's minus 1. the impact of CC on her team in the W-L column is much greater than Reece. this shouldn't even be a discussion one impacts winning to a much greater extent and that's really the bottom line
Since I think Rickea Jackson (she has 11 in the first quarter of the NY/LA game right now) is better than Reece (scoring wins gams, and she had the lowest shooting percentage and most shots in the league), I’d have to go 1. Clark 2. Jackson 3. Reece
I realize this video was recorded a couple weeks ago but ROTY wasn’t close then and it’s not close now. CC is easily ROTY and should be in the MVP consideration.
I don't see how it isn't CC - the fever are a 500 team now, Chicago isn't even going to make the playoffs or get close. Impact matters when both girls are playing well.
The NBA was heading to bankruptcy in the late 70s, the playoffs were on tape delay. Then you had one of the greatest college finals ever, the Magic and Bird rivalry was born and the NBA fostered it. The NBA played into the two reviving a dying brand. The WNBA looks over at Clark and is like, we good losing $10-20 million a year, no need to build our brand and get eyes on our league.
I don't really understand what people are seeing in Angel Reese to being even close to winning ROTY. Yes, she's good at rebounding, but she's not an efficient player at all. It's like choosing Dennis Rodman to be ROTY over John Stockton. That makes no sense.
For you basketball gurus: Kamilla Cardoso was drafted 3-4 positions ahead of AR to the same team. How come the coach is using AR so much more , I mean let KC shoot as much with her superior FG% and let’s see what KCs numbers are when she has taken as many shoot so her FG% is way down at ARs FG%…..😮
The Sky are no better than they were last year with 2 top 10 picks. The Fever are way better than they were last year. Baron right though, a lot of baller females.
These two guys should be more honest and say that Reese's fundamentals are horrible! She is a terrible player who compensates her awfulness with effort.
This commentary would go way different today..reeses season ending injury was her pride..the sky played better becuase they could play,and not pad reeses faux double double run..I've seen reese get 3 straight rebounds of her own continous shots.Reeses layup percentage is maybe 20%..Natalie Williams, who had 53 of her shots blocked in 34 games was the record..reese broke in like 30 games..
idk if CC has an impact globally but if that is the stepping stone to make the WNBA better. I believe it was a wrong move to leave her out in the Women's Basketball Team
Why doesn’t the WNBA just give it to Angel Reese? That’s what they want to win considering Clark’s been breaking all these records but go ahead and give it to her. See what happens to the embarrassing wmba
Reese has some of the ungliest games Ive ever seen. A flurry of missed layups, bricks and clumsy moves. She is just very very strong and can get to the rim with ease.
There's a 9 minute video out there of Angel Reece bloopers. Missing uncontested layups, throwing balls off the backboard etc. How long of a video do you think you could make of Caitlin Clark bloopers? End of conversation. Reece should not be mentioned in the same sentence as Clark as a hooper. She's a rebounder. A great one. But that's it.
Y’all not sayin’ what needs to be said: Caitlin Clark is playing better. Caitlin Clark is the better player. Caitlin Clark is better than Angel Reese. Caitlin Clark is the ROTY. Say it out loud now. Say it together. Chant that sh!t.
Everyone acts as if this is the first time they have seen the WNBA. Too much talk about the ROTY. The only rookies talked about have been Reese and Clark. Seems to me, there are other rookies playing but no media coverage this is pathetic. Clark will win because she deserves it because of her play. The Fever were terrible last year, now they will be in the playoffs. I live in Chicago, and I am a Sky fan, but the team is on a skid and really will not make the playoffs.
compare stats all you want, cc makes players better. the fevor will go from one of the worst teams in 2023, to a playoff team in 2024. the sky are worse this year than last year.
Even they have the 1st pick last year still they are the worst team, a team that never been in playoff for a decade. CC contributed a lot for the team. Bringing the best of the team, lifting the worst team 2022-2023. CC breaking records and making a lot of historic. CC is ROTY and MVP. Aja is in the 1 of the best team. That is called MOST VALUABLE.
lol..anyone who says AR should win is crazy. that's like saying rodman is the best rebounder so he's better than MJ. I know CC is Straight and White so it's hard for you all.
Man if it was Men’s Basketball it wouldn’t even be a discussion. Y’all be pandering to black women. Angel good but she ain’t better
Angel is average
@@jmoney4220 she's so stiff. It just doesn't look good. Will both improve? Yes. But it's CC by a mile right now.
Angel Reese has the athleticism of a baby deer on ice.
And the looks
100%
@@720pLyricsshe look like a Avatar 😂😂😂
& SHE'S DESTROYING VET WNBA BIGS & THEIR RECORDS 😂
@@ChiTownsFinest1 She shoots 38% from the field and 72% from the free throw line. Clark is shooting 42.5% from the field and 90% from the free throw line. Clarks team is greatly improved over last year. Reese's team is way worse than last year. There is no comparison between those two
For me, it has to be Clark. I love Angel Reese and she is an absolute Hooper, but to me it’s no contest. Clark is the number one on every teams scouting reports and she’s picked up full court face guarded every single game. When you factor that in to the fact that she’s still breaking records like first rookie triple double,assists records, points, and assists, triple doubles, I feel like it just has to be her. I think most other years it would probably be angel, but it just so happens that Angel is a rookie the same year as Clark.
THANK YOU !!!
Scouting report don't matter. Who was the better player ?
@@thermologo3451 I disagree that the scouting report doesn’t matter, but even so, being faceguarded full court as a point guard does matter.
Even with that aside, still Clark in my opinion. She’s putting up numbers that no other point guard is putting up and she’s doing it while building from one of the worst teams in the league. She has her fair share of double doubles which are pts/assist DD’s, she’s setting rookie and league assist records, and more. Again, Angel is playing crazy good, but I still think Clark is hands down ROTY. I do believe that scouting reports and defensive focus matters greatly when you’re talking about a player’s stats and achievements.
Idk because I don’t like seeing a whole bunch of turnovers and low shooting percentages and bad shots…cc made a triple double look bad…Reese has passed all her expectations halfway thru season…idk if I could say same for cc…I give cc slight edge for right now in race but honestly if cc is so elite then why is a 7th pick even in same convo as her? It kinda makes cc look bad 😂❤
@@jricks9292 I mean CC's 3 point shot hasn't necessarily been great but it's still 32%. Reese FG% =40.2 | Clark FG% 40.5 .. so they're basically the same in overal FG%. I think TO's is a bit of a lazy argument because Clark is a true point guard running the floor most of the time and her teammates inflate her TO stats because of how they always count against her. Look at the best NBA passers, they all have the highest TO rates as well and Clark's TO's keep going down. If you look up rookie stats, Clark leads all rookies in many categories and is higher than Reese in total block and blocks per game which is a stat that Reese should be higher with the position she plays.
To reiterate, not in the slightest hating on Angel Reese because she's hoopin. Those are just some of my thoughts on why I think Clark at this point in the season is top contender.
Rookie of the Year is Clark.
There is no contest. Caitlin Clark should be in the MVP conversation even. Rookie of the Year is a lock.
Caitlin Leaderboards (as of 08/28):
#1 Assists
#1 Assists per game
#1 Points from Assists and Scoring
#2 3-Point Field Goals made
#3 Free Throw %
#7 2-Point Field Goal %
#8 Points
#10 Points per game
Angel can't compete with this list.
Look at the numbers below. First is Clark. Second is Reese.
Per game:
Points 18.0 / 13.5
Assists 8.2 / 1.8
Steals 1.4 / 1.3
Blocks 0.8 / 0.6
Rebounds 5.8 / 12.9
Caitlin has better numbers than Reese.
Let's talk about the double-doubles. Obviously, Clark is better on points. So look at Assists vs Rebounds.
Assists for Clark vs
Rebounds for Reese:
Assists are harder to get than rebounds.
You can only get Assists on Offense, but you can get Rebounds on both Offense and Defense.
You need two people for an Assist. There has to be a pass, and then that person needs to make a basket. Less than 50% are typically made, so chances are not great. Sometimes, that person who gets the pass from Clark doesn't even take a shot, even if they are open. Also, you can only get one Assist per possession.
Rebounds are a stat padding thing. You can get Rebounds after missing a shot. So you get rewarded for missing. Sometimes, you can get multiple Rebounds on the same possession. You can get Rebounds on Offense and Defense. It's a lame stat to compare to an Assist. When people say, "Look at Angel's double-doubles," I just laugh.
Angel has 152 Offensive Rebounds to Clark's 12. That's not a good thing. That means you're missing a lot of shots and getting put-backs. Look at the percentage of Offensive to Total rebounds for the following players:
Reese 40%
Wilson 19% (former MVP)
Stewart 19% (current MVP)
Clark 7% (future MVP)
Reese has a lot of Offensive rebounds. Now look at the 2-point shooting percentage, and you can see why.
Reese 39%
Wilson 53%
Stewart 52%
Clark 55%
Angel's 2-point shooting percentage is really low for an interior player and compare that to MVP quality players. She gets more Offensive Rebounds opportunities as a result.
Even the Sky team 2-pt percentage (45%) is lowest in the league (tie with the Dream.) NY Liberty is the best at 52%.
Then look at shooting percentage. Clark vs Reese.
2 pt 55% / 40%
3 pt 33% / 18%
FT 90% / 74%
Not even close. Clark is a much better shooter.
Clark has a more complete skill set:
-Ball Handler
-Passer
-Quick release (harder to block)
-Mid-Range Shooter
-Distance shooter
-Runs the break / Outlet passes
-Primary ball handler
Clark is a better all-around player. She is always dangerous when she has the ball. She will catch you sleeping. She can beat you on the fast break. She can attack the basket by driving hard and finishing. She can pass the ball to a teammate for an open look. She can shoot it from anywhere on the court. Foul her, and she is money from the charity stripe. She plays baseline to baseline.
Intangibles. Clark's exciting play draws fans into the arena. The Fever leads league attendance. Their away games also sell out. League attendance is up 156%. League TV viewership is up 300%. Clark's has the #1 selling jersey, and we all know the 2nd place jersey (Reese) isn't even close. The WNBA fly chartered flights for all regular season games this year for the first time. They signed new partner and TV deals. ESPN will be paying almost 7 times the money per year. This is the Clark effect.
They're trying hard to make it seem like Reese is the reason for the increase in WNBA interest along with Clark, but it's not. People go to see Clark's Offense. The passing and shooting. I already explained how below average Reese is in shooting. She doesn't shoot 3's. Not exciting.
Clark is a unicorn. She is one of one. Who in the league passes and shoots like Clark? Who can shoot logo 3's? Fall asleep, and Clark will make you pay. On top of that, she has a good demeanor on the court. Kids relate to Clark. They want to be her. I never heard of a kid wanting to be a rebounder. They all want to be scorers. They want to be ball facilitators. They want to be playmakers.
These false narratives about ROTY being a contested race are bogus. Clark has already won the award. and it's not even close. It's Clark and only Clark, if you're objective.
Clark is getting mvp chatter. If Aja's team continues to plummet the noise will get louder. The ROY was never is question. Clark leads every stat except rebounds.
Not even close. CC all day
17.1 points, 5.8 rebounds and 8.2 assists per game pretty good for a rookie. If she keeps this up CC roty. Good choice by the both of them..
Idt any player ever in the w has averaged those numbers by seasons end. It's historical
155 fg made 155 turnovers
Over the last 15 games she’s averaging 19 pts, 10 assists, 7 rebounds, 1 steal and 1 block, 9 double doubles and 1 triple double on a 10-5 record. She’s beasting rn.
She winning Rookie of the year easy.... The WNBA already showed us... they have Caitlin #2 I'm the MVP Voting
18 ppg*
The All Star voting should of told the world who the people wanted to see on the USA team
Not at all, her fans probably did the multiple votes with different emails, it’s like a cult while I just voted twice for Reese it wasn’t that serious.
@@jeangrey5952 then why the other players didn’t do the same? Kind of dumb take. All you have to do is look at ratings and that proves votes were accordingly to ratings. No other team sell out or are view as the fevers.
@@marioslrzn Most people don’t care that much, I didn’t care to keep voting. But Clark fans are cult like and I noticed them everyday on twitter talking about voting for Clark, just like how all u hear them talking about is rookie of the year like that means something, while others are focused on championships.
@@jeangrey5952 so you’re saying only Clark fans are like that? I tell you what Angel fans act like Angel and Clark fans act like Clark, so I wonder which fans act like victim and say it’s racist for black women to be held accountable for the stupidity they do. I’m pretty sure Clark has more black male fans than Angel has fans, facts
@@jeangrey5952Bro CC fans boosted numbers for all players, it’s obvious look at 2023 vs 2024 voting numbers!
Most CC fans even voted for Angel so we could see them play together & squash this stupid beef. Only the wilfully ignorant will deny this!
Angel is the best rebounder in the league. She's also the least skilled inside player in the league. Clark, on the other hand, is probably the best playmaker in the league and the most overall skilled guard in the league. The ROY contest is not contest at all.
half of her rebounds are from her missed layups.
@@Deryck206and Cardozo block everybody so Angel can get the rebonud!!😂😂😂
@@Deryck206 yea offensively she’s terrible but she’s still a great rebounder
She is the best rebounder because she has the lowest layup FG percentage in the entire WNBA and takes my layups than any other player in the WNBA
This whoever makes the playoffs is is ROTY is so dumb, both teams as it stands are on the playoffs, people with this argument also prob had Wemby over Chet for ROY, and Chet made the playoffs 😂
Exactly. It’s bias. So she deserves to win because she has a better team? When has that ever been the criteria for Roty
And knowing she got a better team 😂😂😂 that nike bag different got everybody just lying for no reason it’s no way somebody who broke the all time turnover record in 25 games is in close to a person who is on pace to get the most offensive rebound record most rebound record and most double double in a season record and already got the most double double in a consecutive season
Oh and those not rookie records these are wnba records and doing all this in her first season and has 104 less turnovers
it is an arguement, When Kidd move to NJ and Nash move to Phoenix and completely changed the dynamics of the team and led them in those playoffs makes you an MVP or specially a ROTY No.1 contender...you dont have to crash a criteria and numbers, when its on plain sight that one man or woman made that team a championship contender
CC is more than shooting from the logo … where as Angel is about the double, but otherwise doesn’t contribute anything game wise to her team, unlike CC is all about creating scoring opportunities for her team !
Offensive rebounds don't create scoring opportunities?
@@hoodcounselor But that’s all it creates … there’s more to the game than just rebounds!!
You’re just repeating what you see online!
@@Manbrown1 Rebounds definitely are an underated aspect and helps massively but not the way Angel does it.
Freakin' 40% FG from just 5ft distance. Means she rebounds multiple times on her own layups.
That's extra unnecessary stat padding.
@@redeyexxx1841Only 53 out of 370+ rebounds are from her own misses. This lie is old. Damn.
“It’s gonna be a learning curve for them, they’ll get a reality check”
It took both of them half a season lol
Seems like reese falling off a bit.
CC is absolutely global - fans around the world are commenting on CC content constantly. Nike and Wilson clearly know it, too.
BS
That's a straight lie. Nobody in the world knows Clark
@@thermologo3451 here is an example… Google “Caitlin Clark Greek league”
EASILY CC
It is to the point now where Angel is stealing rebounds from Cardoso and other bigs on the team. That is the ultimate in stat padding because those rebounds do not add additional value to your team. She also gets quite a few gift rebounds because her team misses an extraordinary amount of shots and Angel misses most of her shots. In addition, she is spending too much energy grabbing rebounds under the buckets when her team needs her to spend more energy making buckets. Just silly.
Caitlin Clark is show time... all eyes on her
Idk why she’s a winner of nothing
Theirs alot of people in the nba that are winners of nothing but are still are historic players.
CC first triple double ever, leading score/assist
CC got MVP stats roty is not even debatable people need to just stop with Angela Reese she’s a decent player at best
Idk about mvp, aja up her stats massively from last season
MVP 😂😂😂 we are having debates about who is better her or Angel she’s no MVP 😂😂😂
@@PirateD.KingLuffy Aja is in the 1 of the top best team. She don't do anything for the team. CC is in the worst team 2022-2023 and never been to playoff for a decade. CC is contributing a lot for the team, she makes her teammate a good player and breaking and making a historic record. Lifting the worst team to playoff that is what I call Most valuable. For me it's CC.
@@deandreray3500anybody with sense will say Caitlin.
@@PirateD.KingLuffy I would say she’s still in the race even tho a’ja is clearly the mvp
Obviously Clark. Angel up there for social and political reasons.
Right now I’m picking Caitlin to be the ROTY but Angel has played amazingly too. I don’t think it’s fair to say whoever makes the playoffs as that’s a team effort and ROTY is an individual award.
You know I've seen many of the games that angel Reese was in and if you call amazing missing several layoffs getting extra rebounds from her own misses amazing but then I guess she is amazing... it's amazing that herself and others consider her to be a great basketball player when she's not even a good one she's a maybe an average WNBA player and besides hurricane there are other very talented rookies and honestly I would put Cardozo well above angel wings in a heartbeat
They always saying CC should be on the team bc of marketing lol. Cc is unlike anything we’ve ever seen and has electrified the world with her play style. All these soft ass answers gotta go. Everybody has eyes and can see CC is the one. 💯💯
@@RunItUp478 you right. Baron Davis was scared to say Caitlin Clark for the backlash. Bruh...it's ok!! It really ain't a discussion 💯
Nobody cares about Clark !!!! Ask people in the streets without showing pictures !!!!!
I got eyes and cc is not the one to me…and I get my eyes checked regularly…I don’t like watching a whole bunch of turnovers and low shooting percentages
I don't want to watch wnba I just want to watch cc play and I'm pilipino basketball is our number 1 sports.😂😂😂
@jricks9292 her shooting percentages are higher than Reeses while taking more difficult shots. Plus being a point guard, youre going to have turnovers, its a part of the game. Besides, she has actually brought those down as of late
I wish ppl would stop just throwing ARs name in these conversations. AR is not a top forward in the league. Brink is better than Reese. Brink just got hurt.
I'm guessing you want a response for your foolishness, right?
And Clark is not a top guard
@@edwardt7364 you out your mind if you think that. Stop being emotional. Look at the games. CC impacts her teams in a positive way that leads to wins. During Angels DD streak, the team went 5-10. Angel doesn't have an offensive game.
@@edwardt7364you right. She is THE top guard
Stop the hate, they are both cool with each other and they are both good
I would have NEVER known how good Ja Wilson is if it weren't for Caitlin Clark. I like Reese but I watch her stay in games when the team is down by over 20 just so she can get her double double. Against Indiana she played all the way to the end down by 28. They fed her the ball the last 6 times down the court for her to get 4 free throws and a basket. Ending up with 12 points and 13 rebounds. She was a non factor all game but got her double double. What I like about Clark is she pushes the ball up court every play and puts pressure on the other team.
They treat the WNBA like a middle school basketball team
In the 7 games since CC has been back from the Olympic break she’s averaging 24.5ppg and 9.0apg. In that time her team is 6-1. On the season she’s averaging 18.7ppg and 8.4apg and is on track to easily get the all time single season assists record.
Since the Olympic break AR is averaging 12.75ppg and 16.5rpg. The Sky are 1-7 over that time including getting blown out by the Fever 100-81. On the season she’s averaging 13.3ppg and 13.1rpg. She’s already beaten the all time WNBA rebounding record and with 8 games left will definitely shatter it.
AR’s rebounding has been incredibly impressive but CC as a rookie is proving to be the most dynamic offensive player in the league. Both her and her team are getting better every single day. The Fever are one of the hottest teams in the league right now and they’re a dark horse candidate for making a deep playoff run.
I’d say AR is putting up a ROTY caliber campaign and in many other years with her numbers she’d probably have won it. But this year CC is running away with that award and it’s not even close. ESPN putting AR above CC is a complete farce.
Caitlin is helping her team win Angel can’t say that
Baron Davis reminds me of Uzo Aduba in Orange is the New Black.
REESE and St Francis. Catlin went to a Catholic HS. Arianism and Pagan.
This is for Pat Summitt, University of Tennessee. The ones who remember know it's her.
Angel is one of the best rebounders of all time, but has the worst shooting percentage in history when 5 feet or less from the basket. Needs to improve her finishing. I’d want her on my team, but she’s not ROTY.
Which is why she has so many rebounds. If she actually made her shots then she wouldn't expend all that energy rebounding her own misses. 😂
CC is putting up the numbers and the numbers are translating to wins. Can’t say the same for AR5
So caitlin grew the franchise exponentially broke records and has been bullied by every player and the whole media while hooping I dont see a comparison
Bullied how SMH
@@LEFTSIDE1Mofos saying bullied like she’s in middle school 😂
So you can honestly say that every single player in the WNBA is “bullying” her? Cut the nonsense!
Angel needs to sort out her inside scoring to be truly top tier. Right now she's Dennis Rodman without the lockdown D. IMO she should work hard on her D and embrace that inside stopper role.
Caitlin's team has a plus 12 game improvement over last year (to this point) compared to Angel's minus 1. the impact of CC on her team in the W-L column is much greater than Reece. this shouldn't even be a discussion one impacts winning to a much greater extent and that's really the bottom line
Since I think Rickea Jackson (she has 11 in the first quarter of the NY/LA game right now) is better than Reece (scoring wins gams, and she had the lowest shooting percentage and most shots in the league), I’d have to go 1. Clark 2. Jackson 3. Reece
I realize this video was recorded a couple weeks ago but ROTY wasn’t close then and it’s not close now. CC is easily ROTY and should be in the MVP consideration.
As much as I like BD and Draymond if they had of said ROY should got to Reese I would never fuck with a single thing they ever do now or in the future
I don't see how it isn't CC - the fever are a 500 team now, Chicago isn't even going to make the playoffs or get close. Impact matters when both girls are playing well.
These guys picked Clark. But they copped out on the reasons why. She is head and shoulders above all other rookies
The NBA was heading to bankruptcy in the late 70s, the playoffs were on tape delay. Then you had one of the greatest college finals ever, the Magic and Bird rivalry was born and the NBA fostered it. The NBA played into the two reviving a dying brand. The WNBA looks over at Clark and is like, we good losing $10-20 million a year, no need to build our brand and get eyes on our league.
Since when does making the playoffs count towards ROY? It's an individual record. Making the playoffs is a team effort.
Everyone should get a new contract soon
I don't really understand what people are seeing in Angel Reese to being even close to winning ROTY. Yes, she's good at rebounding, but she's not an efficient player at all. It's like choosing Dennis Rodman to be ROTY over John Stockton. That makes no sense.
Angel needs to get off social media and get in the gym and work on her game
Caitlin is in the MVP race....end of story. 💯
For you basketball gurus: Kamilla Cardoso was drafted 3-4 positions ahead of AR to the same team. How come the coach is using AR so much more , I mean let KC shoot as much with her superior FG% and let’s see what KCs numbers are when she has taken as many shoot so her FG% is way down at ARs FG%…..😮
There is no debate after last night
Clark ROY and it aint close!!!!
Caitlin Clark is the ROTY 💯
Baron’s too right on the attention they would’ve gotten on the Olympics team for the WNBA. It’s equivalent to setting back the W 4 years.
The WNBA better not fumble this one. Team USA made that mistake already
Early on in the season, it was AR. But, you have to be delusional to think it’s not CC at this point of the season.
The Sky are no better than they were last year with 2 top 10 picks. The Fever are way better than they were last year. Baron right though, a lot of baller females.
She's not the biggest female basketball star on the international stage she's the only female basketball star on the international stage.
That xorrectoon was needed
its like picking Gobert over Jokic.. CC should win it easy
Clark is rookie of year no comparison with reese
These two guys should be more honest and say that Reese's fundamentals are horrible! She is a terrible player who compensates her awfulness with effort.
How is this even a debate? Clark has been the much better rookie. 🎤 Drop.
This commentary would go way different today..reeses season ending injury was her pride..the sky played better becuase they could play,and not pad reeses faux double double run..I've seen reese get 3 straight rebounds of her own continous shots.Reeses layup percentage is maybe 20%..Natalie Williams, who had 53 of her shots blocked in 34 games was the record..reese broke in like 30 games..
idk if CC has an impact globally but if that is the stepping stone to make the WNBA better. I believe it was a wrong move to leave her out in the Women's Basketball Team
Pilipino here.. cc all the way.. wnba is not watchable with out cc.
Clark had a harder season than any other player as a rookie
Why doesn’t the WNBA just give it to Angel Reese? That’s what they want to win considering Clark’s been breaking all these records but go ahead and give it to her. See what happens to the embarrassing wmba
Its like saying Rodman deserved Final MVP becuase he had more rebounds than Jordan. What a joke 😂😂😂
Reese has some of the ungliest games Ive ever seen. A flurry of missed layups, bricks and clumsy moves. She is just very very strong and can get to the rim with ease.
Reese has a wish shot she just throws it up and hopes it goes in
Reese has a wish shot she just throws it up and hopes it goes in
I agree! She can rebound well and runs like crazy but that's where it ends! EsPN needs to get smart as most people can see through their woke bias!
Why is this even a debate?
Stop. Half angels rebounds are her own misses from under the basket
Its true coming from you Dray…. 👍👊🍷
Klark is way better by far but 😮the Agenda will play big role
How much do you watch her? because you spelled her name wrong .
@@franciscoduran2462 which makes us all nervous that they might do her like the Olympic team
You dont have to be pg to give roty to cc. Just need eyes
CC And it isn't even close.
CC is the draw all by herself
Today's game by Clark won't help your Reese lovers
Clark for rookie of the year
Baron silly as hell😂😂😂😂
There's a 9 minute video out there of Angel Reece bloopers. Missing uncontested layups, throwing balls off the backboard etc.
How long of a video do you think you could make of Caitlin Clark bloopers?
End of conversation. Reece should not be mentioned in the same sentence as Clark as a hooper.
She's a rebounder. A great one. But that's it.
Y’all not sayin’ what needs to be said: Caitlin Clark is playing better. Caitlin Clark is the better player. Caitlin Clark is better than Angel Reese. Caitlin Clark is the ROTY. Say it out loud now. Say it together. Chant that sh!t.
Everyone acts as if this is the first time they have seen the WNBA. Too much talk about the ROTY. The only rookies talked about have been Reese and Clark. Seems to me, there are other rookies playing but no media coverage this is pathetic. Clark will win because she deserves it because of her play. The Fever were terrible last year, now they will be in the playoffs. I live in Chicago, and I am a Sky fan, but the team is on a skid and really will not make the playoffs.
Caitlin Clark is a STALKER to other people
Don’t gotta explain yourself BD. It’s a lock.
CC is ROY... By far now.
Double doubles nuff said ok for now on we not countin jokic triple dubs but draymnd glazin cait
CC is a baller. AR is not. She is a good rebounder. Thats it. AR has never truely been in the convo
Wemby didn't make the playoffs but was ROY. This has never been a consideration.
Not even close it’s CC
Angel Reese is spoiled and she thinks she deserves the Rookie of the Year and where she doesn't she needs to grow up
Where did you even see Reese say anything about being Rookie Of The Year??
They got a squad but had the # 1 pick 2 yrs in a row ? Yea that dont add up. Also Aces have no shot this yr
I want to hoop with CC & Green
Stop bring angel in with clark clark stands alone
compare stats all you want, cc makes players better. the fevor will go from one of the worst teams in 2023, to a playoff team in 2024. the sky are worse this year than last year.
Even they have the 1st pick last year still they are the worst team, a team that never been in playoff for a decade. CC contributed a lot for the team. Bringing the best of the team, lifting the worst team 2022-2023. CC breaking records and making a lot of historic. CC is ROTY and MVP. Aja is in the 1 of the best team.
That is called MOST VALUABLE.
They are not even at the same level. Sorry. There are levels to this
CC 4 ROTY
No you don’t need angel reese
Dont worry bout Steph, Draymond 😂
losing the gold is bad for the brand, they needed those spots for producers. caitlin would have been bodied over seas.
lol..anyone who says AR should win is crazy. that's like saying rodman is the best rebounder so he's better than MJ. I know CC is Straight and White so it's hard for you all.
Angel got so many rebounds cuz she misses easy shots
Bayou Bricklayer collecting her own Mebounds lol. She’s just an awful player inside with no skill whatsoever. Reese is hard to watch
Reese can’t shoot a lick!!
Yikes. You're still not over it? 😂😂😂😂 Clout chaser
Angel Reese is only relevant bc of Clark at this point. College is over.